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So I Pulled Out My Wii Today...

Posted by tylerh1701, 02 October 2012 · 309 views

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Now that I got the Wii = Penis joke out of the way in the title, I'll get to the heart of the post. I plugged in my Wii today for the first time in probably about 8 months. I got it out to play some New Super Mario Bros. Wii, not because I had a craving to play the game, but because I saw it trades in for $28.00 at Best Buy at the moment, and I wanted to try and beat it before I unloaded it.

I'm curious what non-casual gamers impressions are of the Wii at this point. Here's a few a came to after about 2 hours of playing.

1. No way around it, the controls suck.

On New Super Mario Bros Wii, you can either hold the little Wii remote sideways or play with the Remote/Nunchuck combo. Neither way is ideal, the controller sideways is just way too small for a grown man's hands (even the NES controller is far superior). I found the Remote/Nunchuck combo slightly better, but still rather imprecise and far inferior to either a PS3 or a 360 controller.

Also, my wrist hurts every time I finish playing. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with "ergonomics" or it's just me not used to the controller, but my right wrist (the one holding the remote) is sore every time I finish playing a Wii game, even one with very minimal waggle like NSMB.

Because of how unique the Wii controllers are, I know some games controller better and are only possible of them. But I find for the vast majority of Wii games I've played, a simple Gamecube controller or Classic Controller Pro would work better. Alas, very few Wii games are compatible with these.

2. Them Graphics.

After sinking countless hours into PS3 and 360 gaming, I always have a tough time going back to the Wii graphics. They obviously don't break the game or anything, but they take some getting used to.

Also, I don't think I 100% understand what format my TV should be in for the Wii. Right now I hooked it up with composite cables so I set it to 4x3, otherwise it looked stretched and god awful. But with component cables (which I have but can't seem to find) should I set to 16x9 widescreen mode?

3. My future with the Wii.

I've never traded in or sold a console and don't plan to get rid of my Wii either. For the $50-$60 I could get for it now, I figure I will get that much enjoyment out of it for the foreseeable future, even if I only play it a few times a year.

I still have a decent backlog on the Wii, and I'm definitely excited to play some of those games. But overall, I think a lot of non-casual gamers will look back on the Wii with disappointment. Obviously it was a commercial success, but I don't think it will be even as fondly remembered as the GameCube was with core gamers.

For fun, below is my backlog of Wii titles, a list of the games I've beat, and the few Wii games still on my radar. Anyone got any recommendations for other Wii games to check out, to round out my Wii experience? (No long RPGs please, not my type of game)

Wii Backlog:
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Beaten:
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On my Radar:
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Now that I got the Wii = Penis joke out of the way in the title, I'll get to the heart of the post. I plugged in my Wii today for the first time in probably about 8 months. I got it out to play some New Super Mario Bros. Wii, not because I had a craving to play the game, but because I saw it trades in for $28.00 at Best Buy at the moment, and I wanted to try and beat it before I unloaded it.

I'm curious what non-casual gamers impressions are of the Wii at this point. Here's a few a came to after about 2 hours of playing.

1. No way around it, the controls suck.

On New Super Mario Bros Wii, you can either hold the little Wii remote sideways or play with the Remote/Nunchuck combo. Neither way is ideal, the controller sideways is just way too small for a grown man's hands (even the NES controller is far superior). I found the Remote/Nunchuck combo slightly better, but still rather imprecise and far inferior to either a PS3 or a 360 controller.

Also, my wrist hurts every time I finish playing. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with "ergonomics" or it's just me not used to the controller, but my right wrist (the one holding the remote) is sore every time I finish playing a Wii game, even one with very minimal waggle like NSMB.

Because of how unique the Wii controllers are, I know some games controller better and are only possible of them. But I find for the vast majority of Wii games I've played, a simple Gamecube controller or Classic Controller Pro would work better. Alas, very few Wii games are compatible with these.

2. Them Graphics.

After sinking countless hours into PS3 and 360 gaming, I always have a tough time going back to the Wii graphics. They obviously don't break the game or anything, but they take some getting used to.

Also, I don't think I 100% understand what format my TV should be in for the Wii. Right now I hooked it up with composite cables so I set it to 4x3, otherwise it looked stretched and god awful. But with component cables (which I have but can't seem to find) should I set to 16x9 widescreen mode?

3. My future with the Wii.

I've never traded in or sold a console and don't plan to get rid of my Wii either. For the $50-$60 I could get for it now, I figure I will get that much enjoyment out of it for the foreseeable future, even if I only play it a few times a year.

I still have a decent backlog on the Wii, and I'm definitely excited to play some of those games. But overall, I think a lot of non-casual gamers will look back on the Wii with disappointment. Obviously it was a commercial success, but I don't think it will be even as fondly remembered as the GameCube was with core gamers.

For fun, below is my backlog of Wii titles, a list of the games I've beat, and the few Wii games still on my radar. Anyone got any recommendations for other Wii games to check out, to round out my Wii experience? (No long RPGs please, not my type of game)

Wii Backlog:
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Beaten:
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On my Radar:
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I was really hoping for some more Jo Garcia pictures in here somewhere.
I <3 boobies.
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You haven't seen bad controls until you play Metroid: Other M.

Most frustrating control scheme ever.
I actually kind of got used to the nunchuck+wiimote combo and don't find it cumbersome anymore so to me it's a viable control method. For the wii controller on it's side, I can use it if I have to but I do prefer not (although if you get this it works great http://www.amazon.co...ywords=wii boss)

For the graphics, they don't bother me either but I have a bunch of older consoles that I still play now and then so that's never been a deciding factor for me, to answer your question I used Component cables and I have it set to 16x9 and I think it looks fine.

Also, out of curiosity, have you ever played a Monster Hunter game before? If not Monster Hunter Tri on the Wii is one of my favorite games, it's not really a RPG but it does have some RPG elements in it, it can be a very hardcore game if you get into it and play the online modes. But there's an updated version coming out for the Wii U as well that has all of the content of the Wii version plus more.
Jo Garcia made the Wii look good. :)
I think the WIi is best a prototype, and Wii U is what the Wii should have been. The main problem is the developers. They make games for the new Nintendo Systems that intentionally exploit every new gimmick, and that just doesn't work. Not every game should use the wiimote/nunchuck combo. Some games should use the sideways controller. Motion control is a good idea, but not required for every game. Sadly, Nintendo's Dvelopers are obssesed with including every gimmick in their games, instead of what's necessary for a fun experience.
Haha I have no idea who that girl is, I just Google imaged "Hot Girl Wii" and the pic showed up. I guess her name is Jo Garcia, I will Google her later...for scientific purposes.

@MoCiWe - I've never played Monster Hunter but I am kind of interested in the game. It looked pretty cool but I never got around to buying it. Maybe I'll check out, looks like it's only about $17 used on Amazon, and I already have a Classic Controller Pro so I may pick it up in the near future.

As for the graphics, I'm really not a graphics snob. I really enjoy playing older games, and games that use retro graphics. But when the Wii tries to do super modern, HD-style graphics (like the Super Mario Galaxy games) they just look really rough around the edges.

@Ather - I agree with you, in that Nintendo still has the ability to make some of the greatest games of all time. But they throw dumb things into their games based on whatever their current schtick is. For example, in NSMB you have to waggle the controller to pick something up. It's beyond annoying and doesn't even make sense as a control input. Why would I shake my hands to pick something up.
@Invicta 61 - I heart boobies too. And it's a great way to get attention to my blog posts, when I don't know what kind of picture to use. :)
Harvey Birdman is one of my favorite games on the Wii. Plays just like an episode of the show. Do yourself a favor and move that to the top of the list. It'll only take a night to play all the way through, but it is definitely worth it.
I don't play Wii games too often because a lot don't appeal to me, but there are a few gems. I prefer to play via Dolphin more often than not because it upscales the graphics, but I use the actual console if the game requires much motion or pointing (and it's also my preferred way to play retro games).

I think how much I like or dislike the Wiimote depends on how the game uses it. I don't go for the superfluous waggle, but a few games actually use the controller's uniqueness to good effect (for example, Silent Hill Shattered Memories). The only problem I run into is the positioning with the sensor bar compared to the height of my couch. Sometimes I have to hold the Wiimote up to get it reading correctly, and after a while my arm gets tired.

It's a shame you're not into the longer RPGs. Xenoblade isn't only the best Wii game available, it's one of the best games I've played in years.
"I've never traded in or sold a console and don't plan to get rid of my Wii either. For the $50-$60 I could get for it now, I figure I will get that much enjoyment out of it for the foreseeable future, even if I only play it a few times a year."

Wii's are sold everywhere around her for that much. Weird. Anyhow, nice read sir.
^Thank you.
add Epic Mickey to your radar. Not perfect, often frustrating, but worth it.
^I'm really hoping it gets an HD re-release at some point. I know Warren Specter really wants it.
Tyler, I'm not going to argue, picking up items with waggle is ridiculous..... but to me the more annoying thing to me is the waggle mapped to the spin jump.

Who said Wii was the first console with "motion control"? Every time I was getting ready for a tough platforming section I would tense up to get ready for some precision button pressing goodness and whoosh spin jump into oblivion. Ironic that the console supposed to get you up and moving was teaching me how to play 2d Mario sitting perfectly still.

The Wii wasn't my favorite console by a long shot. But I still consider my investment worth it for the Nintendo games. I.E. NSMB, although it was flawed and would have been a much better game with classic controller compatibility, I still enjoyed it and it quenched my 2d Mario love for a while.
"You haven't seen bad controls until you play Metroid: Other M.

Most frustrating control scheme ever."

I was so thinking that after reading the OP's backlog! I couldn't make it past 10 minutes in before I was like.... no!
@smallsharkbigbite - Haha great point. I hate having the spin jump mapped to waggle.

I definitely don't regret my purchase either. I had a great time with Wii Sports when I finally got my hands on the console, and games like Twilight Princess, Smash Bros, and the Mario Galaxy games were all great experiences.

@mastagoalie - Oh wow. I've heard so many bad things about Other M, but nothing about it's controls. What makes them so bad?
I think the Wii might have failed because it just took too much activity from the average gamer. :rofl:

Seriously though, the concepts were nice, like most Nintendo consoles, but at this point you need more then gimmicks to make a successful, long lasting console. And even then, the gimmick of the Wii (moving the controller to move the game) wasn't so groundbreaking that it made up for a general lack of quality titles with, ironically, decent control schemes.