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rabbitt
07-10-2006, 11:52 PM
Sometimes it's nice to go back and play a game that you enjoyed a long time ago. And on some occasions, you might be surprised that that game isn't exactly how you remembered it. So just post what games you have found that time hasn't been very kind to. I'll start out with 2.

Castlevania: Circle of the Moon (GBA)- When this game was released on the GBA early on, it was probably one of the best portable games you could own. Now, there are 4 [recent] portable Castlevania games, with another on the way. It's not that CotM got any worse, it's just that Aria and Dawn of Sorrow are much more advanced, gameplay-wise.

Conker's Bad Fur Day (N64)- Some games are best left in there original form. I have no problem looking at CBFD on the N64 and thinking 'Yeah, it was good for its' time,' but when Rare remade it for the Xbox, it was really apparent how much this game aged. The one-time jokes are outdated, as the movies they parodied have become old. The voiceovers aren't exactly pleasant on the ears, either. And don't get me started on the now-muddy controls.

So, what are some other games that haven't aged as well as you'd like?

ShimSham
07-11-2006, 12:09 AM
A ton of early 3D games haven't aged well graphically, then again some have.

FF7 for instance has aged horribly as far as looks go.

seanr1221
07-11-2006, 12:14 AM
The Multiplayer in Perfect Dark. I remember how much fun I used to have with friends using bots so I decided to bring it up to college.

The game got so slow and clunky, we stopped playing after 10 minutes.

thorbahn3
07-11-2006, 12:16 AM
Doom

jm2u
07-11-2006, 12:18 AM
Perfect dark was unplayable the day I put it in my N64. I'll never know how anyone played it at 5fps.

Roufuss
07-11-2006, 12:24 AM
These are all graphically, to the point where they just hurt my fucking eyes.

Perfect Dark
Silent Hill
Rival Schools
Any of the earlier Tekken's
Hell, any early 3-D fighter PERIOD
Any early 3-D FPS

discostu1981
07-11-2006, 03:35 AM
Any Mortal Kombat game, even the recent ones.

paz9x
07-11-2006, 06:31 AM
starfox - snes

jimbodan
07-11-2006, 07:05 AM
I totally agree about Conker. When I first played it for N64 I absolutely loved it, it was right up there with my favorite games of all time, it even held up through multiple replays. When I played it recently for Xbox though, it just didn't seem nearly as good. The game looked great but like you said the jokes didn't age well. It still wasn't a horrible game but it was definately not as great as I remembered it.

Mr. Anderson
07-11-2006, 07:24 AM
I don't really have a problem playing any game from any era. Graphics don't bother me as long as the gameplay is adequate.

Z-Saber
07-11-2006, 07:33 AM
DoomBlasphemy.

Puffa469
07-11-2006, 10:41 AM
Mortal Kombat games.

I tried to play these recently on compilation discs and they just sucked ass. Many older games have shit graphics and framerates when compared to newer games, but MK games still look okay, and the framerate is fine, they just play like shit. The rare case of the gameplay becoming outdated and ruining the game imo...

graf1k
07-11-2006, 10:51 AM
FF7 for instance has aged horribly as far as looks go.

Maybe I'm crazy and in the minority but even at the time I thought it looked bad other than the CG. Oddly enough, even the CG looks dated nowadays.

Mr.Answer
07-11-2006, 11:19 AM
paperboy

KaneRobot
07-11-2006, 11:28 AM
Goldeneye. I didn't even like it back when it was popular since I had played Half-Life on the PC, but NOW it's even worse.

Responding to above, MK2 is still kind of fun. 1 and 3 are pretty stinky though.

wubb
07-11-2006, 11:33 AM
For me it's really hard to go back and play a FPS on the N64 after playing them on systems with two analog controllers.

Chacrana
07-11-2006, 11:33 AM
Mortal Kombat definitely hasn't aged well... you have to wonder exactly how the hell people enjoyed it at one point. Apart from that though...

Doom
Duke Nukem 3D
Diablo
Goldeneye
Tech Romancer
Tenchu
(Insert any early 3D fighter here like Battle Arena Toshinden)


Essentially, the games that have aged the worst were those that tried to do a bunch of flashy things graphically but didn't have sufficient gameplay to back it up. The earlier PS1 games often had shitty gameplay, but they were kinda cool at the time because they were 3D. There's no way somebody could enjoy the majority of those early games now.

rlse9
07-11-2006, 01:55 PM
How about pretty much everything for the N64? As much as I loved the N64 controller at the time, going back now it's a pain to use and seems pretty crappy compared to the current controllers.

onetrackmind
07-11-2006, 02:09 PM
i tried playing goldeneye the other day and although its ok now the game hasn't adged well imo... the controls and hit detection are fucking terrible.

Number83
07-11-2006, 02:12 PM
Arx Fatalis on the XBOX...(shudders!) Great game, ugly as sin!

ViolentLee
07-11-2006, 03:26 PM
I agree completely with the "early polygonal games looking like ass" school of thought. I tried playing Perfect Dark N64 after finally getting an N64 RAM expansion cart. I just couldn't do it; I partly blame having been playing a lot of Halo 2 at the time.

How about a game like Ridge Racer or other arcade-to-console ports? These types of games are devoid of any features or modes, making them shallow experiences.

jrutz
07-11-2006, 04:03 PM
Let's try and get off the obvious graphical aging. Of course games of ten years ago won't look nearly as good as they did because of the change in technology. But what about games that just didn't play as well as you once thought they did? Conker and Ridge Racer were good examples of this - games that simply did not stand the test of time.

I say Black and White. This was a game that was hyped to the heavens, and even when it was released many reviewers just fell in love with it. But ask any of those reviewers now, and they'll tell you the game just wasn't very good. How they got beer goggles for that game, I don't know, but no one is in love with it now.

Another example is Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time. When it came out, all the reviewers said it was the return of the franchise, and one of the best games of the year. Not even a year later, they called the game lacking because of repetitive combat, among other things.

I don't know if these were examples of payola, but they do demonstrate that games can fall out of favor with the media rather quickly.

Jeremy

Lieutenant Dan
07-11-2006, 04:23 PM
Clayfighter.

repetske
07-11-2006, 04:38 PM
Metal Gear Solid. I remember that game looking so awesome. The funny thing is that Twin Snakes looks like I "remember" the PS1 version looking.

SpreadTheWord
07-11-2006, 05:00 PM
Civilization.

After you play any other Civ game a lot of the gameplay balances feel so harsh.

MarioColbert
07-11-2006, 05:10 PM
Whoever said Paperboy... AMEN. That game was insanely hard when I played it for the first time, and it's even harder now.

I thought that DOOM was not blasphemy at all, since the game sucks in comparison to the way you are now used to FPS games. Unless you stopped with DOOM. Then it will be always on top.

What _WAS_ blasphemy is the SNES StarFox comment. Like what you want, and dislike what you may, but StarFox plays beautifully to this day.


Games I thought did not mature well are Beneath a Steel Sky, Gabriel Knight, and every single thing done by Roberta Williams.

botticus
07-11-2006, 05:13 PM
Games I thought did not mature well are Beneath a Steel Sky, Gabriel Knight, and every single thing done by Roberta Williams.
Sad, but true. I have the Anthology to prove it.

Vinny
07-11-2006, 05:19 PM
I usually find that older games are more fun to pick up and play... I wouldn't consider many games to not have aged well.

But N64 FPS titles never seem as good as they originally were, games like PD, Goldeneye, and Turok were great back in the day but not much today. They're still hella fun in multiplayer though.

SpreadTheWord
07-11-2006, 06:06 PM
StarFox plays beautifully to this day.


At 4-5 frames per second.

I don't see how you can say Doom didn't age well while StarFox did. They were both major technical achievements that are now so surpassed that the originals are hard to play.

An FPS that has no up-down controls? A 3-D shooter that only has a few hundred polygons rendered at less than 10 FPS?

Moxio
07-11-2006, 06:08 PM
Super Smash Bros still seems fine to me. Same with Diablo.

Mindzeye82
07-11-2006, 06:28 PM
PC games seem to age really poorly for some reason. But the advantage that they have over console games is that when you install a really old PC game on a more recent machine, the game runs extremely smooth. It's nice to replay a game that your older computer struggled to run on a PC that wasn't even in development when the game was created. Anywho, here is my list


Warcraft: Orcs vs. Humans
Thief: The Dark Project
Command & Conquer
Command & Conquer: Red Alert
Dungeon Keeper (anyone remember that?)
The older King of Fighters games

javeryh
07-11-2006, 06:47 PM
Honestly, most games don't age that well. There are probably less than 30 games from every past system that I would consider playable today even though they were groundbreaking back in the day.

62t
07-11-2006, 07:30 PM
doom aged very well if you are playing it multiplayer. It is fun to play during a break from CS:C

For me
Die Hard Arcade (saturn)

AHEADAMUS
07-11-2006, 08:03 PM
Honestly, most games don't age that well. There are probably less than 30 games from every past system that I would consider playable today even though they were groundbreaking back in the day.

Though 2-D games tend to age much better. Those really relied on their pure play mechanics.

See: Mega Man, Mario, Zelda, and Castlevania.

Sonic may be a counterexample.

ViolentLee
07-11-2006, 08:29 PM
I still enjoyed playing Sonic CD on the latest GC compilation. I personally can't stand any Sonic in 3D.

Kuros
07-11-2006, 08:49 PM
PC games seem to age really poorly for some reason. But the advantage that they have over console games is that when you install a really old PC game on a more recent machine, the game runs extremely smooth. It's nice to replay a game that your older computer struggled to run on a PC that wasn't even in development when the game was created. Anywho, here is my list


Warcraft: Orcs vs. Humans
Thief: The Dark Project
Command & Conquer
Command & Conquer: Red Alert
Dungeon Keeper (anyone remember that?)
The older King of Fighters games

As for the older KoF games, I still think that '98 was the best one. It seemed to be the most balanced and fun to me.

Who's The Twitch Now?
07-11-2006, 09:28 PM
Perfect Dark was and is the greatest game ever made. I say that with very few doubts. The fact that the slowdown occurs frequently doesn't detract from the perfection of the gameplay and layout of the game elements. This may be because I have played it consistantly since its release, and I just learned to ignore or not even notice the slowdown, as I can judge my movements and aiming absolutely perfectly whether I can see the motion or not. A masterpiece. An eternal, unbelievable masterpiece.

GuilewasNK
07-11-2006, 09:33 PM
All the Playstation Tomb Raider games.

God, the controls are horrid. I did get almost all of them from EB (during the good ol days) just to have them.

2D games that were considered good are generally still good because the controls and gameplay mechanics for 2D games are pretty much the same even today. 3D has seen so much in the way of improving controls (analog) and control schemes that most earlier games are just better in memory. Even when I went back and finished FFVII last year I was wishing for analog control.

Z-Saber
07-11-2006, 10:15 PM
Doom
Duke Nukem 3D
Diablo
Goldeneye
Tech Romancer
TenchuAbsolute blasphemy.

Doom - Doom sourceports FTW

Duke Nukem 3D - I haven't played it in years, but from what I know there is a sourceport. And I can't imagine the game being anymore senseless than it was back in the day.

Diablo - Again, it's been years, but I really enjoyed it. This one I'll give you just because it's been so long and I can't remember it too well.

Goldeneye - Low framerate and blury graphics almost ruin it for me. Almost. I'll half-way give this one to you.

Tech Romancer - We are talking about that Capcom fighting game for the Dreamcast, right? I just played it for the first time a couple months ago and thought it was really fun.

Tenchu - How dare you. Tenchu looks great, and it plays the best of all the Tenchu games.

As with the graphics hurting gameplay thread, I'll get a couple shots from Doom and Tenchu since they're the only ones I own AND can gets shots myself.

I'll post them sometime tonight.

Another example is Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time. When it came out, all the reviewers said it was the return of the franchise, and one of the best games of the year. Not even a year later, they called the game lacking because of repetitive combat, among other things.I bought this one some time last year and loved it. I agree that the combat sucked, but everything else was perfect. The puzzles, the graphics, the music, the tightness of the gameplay. Amazing game. But I will say that the combat was the worst part of the game for me.
I don't see how you can say Doom didn't age well while StarFox did.Yeah, that seems odd to me. Of the two, I'd say StarFox aged much worse ONLY because of the framerate, not graphics or gameplay, though the low framerate does heavily affect StarFox's gameplay for me. Doom still runs smooth and perfect, just like it did back in '94. Actually, my PC sucked and it didn't run smooth back then, but you get the picture.

doom aged very well if you are playing it multiplayer.YES! Skulltag and ZDaemon are flipping awesome!

All the Playstation Tomb Raider games.

God, the controls are horrid.I always thought that. I never got anywhere in any of the games (I still own 1 and 3 and haven't touched them in years) because of the controls. The you had to walk slowly to a corner and jump back, run forward, HOLD the jump button until you jump five minutes later, then hold the grab button and yadda yadda... it was all too complicated and cumbersome.

That's why the new Tomb Raider is so good.

Even when I went back and finished FFVII last year I was wishing for analog control.FFVII would not benefit much from analog controls. I'd say it would hurt the game if anything.

GuilewasNK
07-11-2006, 11:42 PM
FFVII would not benefit much from analog controls. I'd say it would hurt the game if anything.

I was just so used to it in other games that I found myself reaching for the analog stick by habit.

Funny you mention Doom. I was playing Ultimate Doom on my Doom 3: LE for Xbox and I think I enjoyed that more than Doom 3 for some reason.

Z-Saber
07-11-2006, 11:54 PM
Doom 3 isn't as good as the originals. Plain and simple.

EDIT: Doom and Tenchu pictures.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2883/doom8fb.th.png (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doom8fb.png)

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6326/doom27om.th.png (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doom27om.png)

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2603/doom34wk.th.png (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doom34wk.png)

All of those pictures were taken in Doomsday with a bunch of different things like hi-res textures and whatnot. Keep in mind I downloaded the textures and Doomsday many months ago so there are probably newer and better versions of all of this.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7209/tenchu19xp.th.png (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tenchu19xp.png)

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/3958/tenchu21db.th.png (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tenchu21db.png)

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8195/tenchu35jk.th.png (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tenchu35jk.png)

These were taken in ePSXe.

FriskyTanuki
07-12-2006, 12:54 AM
Another example is Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time. When it came out, all the reviewers said it was the return of the franchise, and one of the best games of the year. Not even a year later, they called the game lacking because of repetitive combat, among other things.

I don't know if these were examples of payola, but they do demonstrate that games can fall out of favor with the media rather quickly.

Jeremy
Link to the media being down on SoT a year later? From what I remember of the reviews the game got, the repetitive combat was one of the only downsides that was constantly mentioned about the game, so I'm not sure why the game would be looked down upon a year later because of something they all saw and wrote on when they reviewed.

yukine
07-12-2006, 01:16 AM
I remember Driver and Driver 2 for the Playstation being amazing when it came out, realistic graphics, believable AI (Well.... sort of.) Now try going back and playing it, blegh.

I added screenshots for the hell of it:


http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/8953/driverscreen0289wq.jpg


http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7861/driver21113screen0060hj.jpg

PenguinMaster
07-12-2006, 01:25 AM
Everyone who says Conker hasn't aged well based on playing the XBOX remake should try playing the original. I still love the original but the remake sucked.

EDIT: Also I'd like to comment that Perfect Dark is still the best FPS. The guy who said Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time is out of his mind, the combat always sucked but the rest of the game is so fantastic (and still unsurpassed by anything in the genre) that the game is still fantastic.

Brak
07-12-2006, 01:52 AM
Street Fighter II.

HeadRusch
07-12-2006, 02:12 AM
So basically any game that came out more than 2 years ago "hasn't aged well" because the graphics aren't up to snuff?

Wow....how profound.

yukine
07-12-2006, 02:29 AM
So basically any game that came out more than 2 years ago "hasn't aged well" because the graphics aren't up to snuff?

Wow....how profound.

Who said that?

Z-Saber
07-12-2006, 07:40 AM
Who said that?
Most of the people in the thread, though the 2 years thing was never stated. A better way to put it is anything not current gen.

As for Driver and Driver 2, pretty cool games there. I have the PC version of Driver and used to have the PS1 versions of Driver and Driver 2. Compared to the first one, Driver 2 will always be crap though.

I don't feel like installing it to take screenshots, but Driver still looks pretty good on the PC. The PS1 versions probably look good through ePSXe. I haven't seen a PS1 game that doesn't.

yukine
07-12-2006, 09:59 AM
Most of the people in the thread, though the 2 years thing was never stated. A better way to put it is anything not current gen.

As for Driver and Driver 2, pretty cool games there. I have the PC version of Driver and used to have the PS1 versions of Driver and Driver 2. Compared to the first one, Driver 2 will always be crap though.

I don't feel like installing it to take screenshots, but Driver still looks pretty good on the PC. The PS1 versions probably look good through ePSXe. I haven't seen a PS1 game that doesn't.
I guess, but that is a bit of a stretch. He (or she?) makes it seem like everyone in the thread is judging the games of previous generations, entirely on graphics, which isn't the case. It seems to me, that the majority of our complaints are more towards gameplay mechanics rather than graphics.

Driver is still an awesome game, don't get me wrong. But the game I remember was much better than what it is today.

And what the hell happened with DRIV3R? X__X

Caliburn
07-12-2006, 10:20 AM
I'm on the fence about Grand Theft Auto II...with the current 3d renditions of the series, I went back to play GTA2. There's a little bit of fun with the ice cream trucks, but the birds'-eye perspective and everything else just aren't convincing me to play the game further. Eveything that can be done in a GTA game is better in 3d.

I still love and prefer 2d platformers and fighting games though.

mykevermin
07-12-2006, 10:21 AM
Topic marked. I know I'll think of some later in the day.

I'll stay away from the past 5-10 years and say that I find about three minutes of nostalgia - and no more - in any 1980's Atari release. Same goes for Intellivision. I'm glad gaming went the direction it did, because I wouldn't be playing these games today.

Even the titles that really, really got me into gaming (Ninja Kid for NES) aren't much fun anymore.

yukine
07-12-2006, 10:38 AM
I'm on the fence about Grand Theft Auto II...with the current 3d renditions of the series, I went back to play GTA2. There's a little bit of fun with the ice cream trucks, but the birds'-eye perspective and everything else just aren't convincing me to play the game further. Eveything that can be done in a GTA game is better in 3d.

I still love and prefer 2d platformers and fighting games though.
I still love Grand Theft Auto II for how it is, the top-down perspective still appeals to me for the series.

rabbitt
07-12-2006, 12:02 PM
Everyone who says Conker hasn't aged well based on playing the XBOX remake should try playing the original. I still love the original but the remake sucked.



I'm not judging how well Conker aged as a port, but in playing the port (or remake, rather), you realize that this platformer didn't stand the test of time. Going back to the N64 version now (IMO the better version, despite graphics), everything seems wrong. The gameplay has become muddy and unresponsive, the jokes stale, and the voiceovers are putrid. What hasn't aged in Conker? The character personalities are still great, but references to movies of that time aren't funny 5-10 years later.

javeryh
07-12-2006, 12:07 PM
The character personalities are still great, but references to movies of that time aren't funny 5-10 years later.

heh, this is the same reason no one will watch Family Guy in 10 years.

HeadRusch
07-12-2006, 12:08 PM
He, for what its worth, and if you look at most of the people posting its all about graphics, which shouldn't even be part of the criteria. Graphics are always improving.

Driver for the PS1 is still an incredible game. Its fun to get in that car and tool around, the weight of the cars and the springy suspension...if only it would run at a few more FPS it would be great. Not easy on the eyes anymore, but so what.

I personally dont mind a game like Conker that has dated film references. Is AIRPLANE! any less funny because kids seeing it today never saw the AIRPORT 77 or AIRPORT CONCORDE! disaster movies in the 70's, on which AIRPLANE was goofing on? I don't think so.

I dont think there are any videogames that haven't aged well...if a game was amusing to you in the past, it should still be amusing to you today. Granted, not in the same "WOW!" way as before.....but honestly....I could still go back and have fun with NIGHT DRIVER or Microsurgeon or Atari Boxing.

People don't always age well, but videogames....they are immortal :)

Mookyjooky
07-12-2006, 12:20 PM
I'm not judging how well Conker aged as a port, but in playing the port (or remake, rather), you realize that this platformer didn't stand the test of time. Going back to the N64 version now (IMO the better version, despite graphics), everything seems wrong. The gameplay has become muddy and unresponsive, the jokes stale, and the voiceovers are putrid. What hasn't aged in Conker? The character personalities are still great, but references to movies of that time aren't funny 5-10 years later.

I remember Clockwork Orange (70's) and Terminator (80's). What was from the late 90's in that game?

javeryh
07-12-2006, 12:28 PM
I remember Clockwork Orange (70's) and Terminator (80's). What was from the late 90's in that game?

Saving Ryan's Privates?

Scorch
07-12-2006, 12:54 PM
I agree with Goldeneye and Perfect Dark. Goldeneye is playable, but Perfect Dark looks like SHIT. I tried to play it the other day and quit after ten minutes or so.

I played Tenchu the other day on the PS1. Graphically, meh, but the gameplay's still good, and the soundtrack is so awesome that I imported it years ago from Japan. Still my favorite Tenchu.

HeadRusch
07-12-2006, 12:56 PM
Tenchu is Splinter Cell: Episode Zero

Z-Saber
07-12-2006, 02:22 PM
He (or she?) makes it seem like everyone in the thread is judging the games of previous generations, entirely on graphics, which isn't the case. It seems to me, that the majority of our complaints are more towards gameplay mechanics rather than graphics.Yeah...

A ton of early 3D games haven't aged well graphically, then again some have.

FF7 for instance has aged horribly as far as looks go.
Perfect dark was unplayable the day I put it in my N64. I'll never know how anyone played it at 5fps.
These are all graphically, to the point where they just hurt my fucking eyes.

Perfect Dark
Silent Hill
Rival Schools
Any of the earlier Tekken's
Hell, any early 3-D fighter PERIOD
Any early 3-D FPS
Arx Fatalis on the XBOX...(shudders!) Great game, ugly as sin!
I agree completely with the "early polygonal games looking like ass" school of thought. I tried playing Perfect Dark N64 after finally getting an N64 RAM expansion cart. I just couldn't do it; I partly blame having been playing a lot of Halo 2 at the time.
Metal Gear Solid. I remember that game looking so awesome. The funny thing is that Twin Snakes looks like I "remember" the PS1 version looking.
I agree with Goldeneye and Perfect Dark. Goldeneye is playable, but Perfect Dark looks like SHIT. I tried to play it the other day and quit after ten minutes or so.

All of this when we already have a thread about old games looking crappy.

GuilewasNK
07-12-2006, 02:28 PM
I'll say this much. Games like Goldeneye or PD should be played on a 19in TV or less. I tried playing them on my 32in and it is really muddy looking. The control scheme is archaic as well. I still like them though. The bots in PD are still ahead of its time IMO and the weapons are very inventive even now.

ViolentLee
07-12-2006, 02:52 PM
Link to the media being down on SoT a year later? From what I remember of the reviews the game got, the repetitive combat was one of the only downsides that was constantly mentioned about the game, so I'm not sure why the game would be looked down upon a year later because of something they all saw and wrote on when they reviewed.
I was one of the media who really liked PoP 2. The reason most were down on it was because of the way Ubisoft tried to give the Prince a more "extreme" edge. They thought it came off canned and labored. The first one also blew everyone away; with the sequel, they knew what to expect.

Everyone who says Conker hasn't aged well based on playing the XBOX remake should try playing the original. I still love the original but the remake sucked.
The first time I played Conker, I was shocked at how unresponsive the controls were. It was so sluggish compared to Banjo-Kazooie and its sequel.

He, for what its worth, and if you look at most of the people posting its all about graphics, which shouldn't even be part of the criteria. Graphics are always improving.
I gotta say that graphics can matter -- especially with things like framerate. Besides, the OP states:

"Sometimes it's nice to go back and play a game that you enjoyed a long time ago. And on some occasions, you might be surprised that that game isn't exactly how you remembered it. So just post what games you have found that time hasn't been very kind to."

That clearly can include graphics. We remember games looking a certain way, especially when they were the pinnacle of technology at the time. Then we go back to play them, and it's surprising that our standards have gone up so high. Take Soul Blade for PSone, for example. In my mind, the CG is freaking mind-blowing. Go back to watch it today, and it's barely adequate. The picture our mind painted has been shined up to a level the real product can't compare with.

Sonic Fighters
07-13-2006, 03:19 AM
I just recently got back into Tomb Raider 2 and beat the 1st level for the 1st time. I don't think this game aged well. I played for hours, but never got used to the controls. I kept reaching for the analong controls.

yukine
07-13-2006, 04:53 AM
Yeah...

[Quote Party]

All of this when we already have a thread about old games looking crappy.
Well, of course there ARE complaints about the graphics. But there is almost an equal amount of people that are judging games on agedness (eh?) beyond eye candy.

I'm just trying to defend the ones in this thread that are not graphic whores.
I didn't mean to get into any conflicts with anyone, heh. :argue: #-o

Mr. Anderson
07-13-2006, 05:50 AM
This thread is depressing. :(

PINKO
07-13-2006, 06:56 AM
Games that have aged well are Full motion video games

i love FMV execept on sega cd(32xcd,3do,dos,Cd-i)
stuff like nighttrap and Ripper is awsome

2d shoters
2d Platformers
2d fighters

some sports games aswell

like nba Jam,Nfl Blitz,Tecmo super bowel
and,Nhl Rock the rink

magilacudy
07-13-2006, 07:03 AM
I thought PoP2 looked dated the first time I played it. The Sand Prince levels struck me as being sloppily textured.

Final Fight also sticks out in my mind as well. I recently played it in Capcom Classics... only one attack button/ limited moves don't seem to cut it anymore.

FWIW, when I read the title of this thread I thought of a 1980's BMW 3-series I saw yesterday. Cars were boxy back then, but this one was downright laughable.

Squall835
07-15-2006, 09:03 PM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the PS1 Twisted Metal games. I remember wasting hours with friends doing the multiplayer mode when that game came out. However, I revisited it with a friend not long ago, and wanted to vomit. The game is just horrible now, the controls are terrible, and the multiplayer feels so claustrophobic.

FriskyTanuki
07-15-2006, 09:39 PM
I was one of the media who really liked PoP 2. The reason most were down on it was because of the way Ubisoft tried to give the Prince a more "extreme" edge. They thought it came off canned and labored. The first one also blew everyone away; with the sequel, they knew what to expect.
I thought we were talking about Sands of Time, not Warrior Within. Unless I'm missing something, this isn't proof of the media hating Sands of Time within a year after it's release like jrutz claimed.

Chacrana
07-15-2006, 09:41 PM
I thought PoP2 looked dated the first time I played it. The Sand Prince levels struck me as being sloppily textured.

Final Fight also sticks out in my mind as well. I recently played it in Capcom Classics... only one attack button/ limited moves don't seem to cut it anymore.

FWIW, when I read the title of this thread I thought of a 1980's BMW 3-series I saw yesterday. Cars were boxy back then, but this one was downright laughable.

I thought that Final Fight made up for the lack of attack buttons with the situations you're put in. The game isn't about complexity of moves -- it's about surviving in a bunch of overwhelming situations. If Final Fight was a one on one fighter, then yeah, it would've aged terribly, but I think that given the kind of game it is, it's aged remarkably well and it's still very fun to play today. Same goes for Streets of Rage 2.

ViolentLee
07-16-2006, 04:03 PM
I thought we were talking about Sands of Time, not Warrior Within. Unless I'm missing something, this isn't proof of the media hating Sands of Time within a year after it's release like jrutz claimed.

Aw, you're right. My bad. When people talk about PoP hating, I just default to Warrior Within.

furyk
07-16-2006, 05:30 PM
Adventure: Man, I thought that shit was mindblowing back in the day, but now I can't even look at it. It needs a 3D cart racing remake scored by Slipknot.