Achievement Whore Problems

[The_Jacket]

I am a huge Achievement whore. I played GUN 4 times to get all of the achievements, Condemed 2x. So I think I am perty dedicated to getting all of the achievements on games, but then I ran in to the Pile of Crap i call Dead or Alive 4. To me this game is unplayable. Everything seems so fast except the my character. I hate that freaking game. And the only other problem I am having is games like Quake 4 and PDZ, where they want you to play online for hundreds of hours to get them all. Are there any other achievement whores having these Problems?

[Chris in Cali]

Yeah, I hate the online acheivements.... what about the people that don't/can't play online? Personally, I have Xbox Live Gold, but I just don't care for online games.

[help1]

Whats the point of the no-life points? I am intrested in them SLIGHTLY and when I get a 360, ill prob do a few, but some poepl go nuts over these!

[mik]

I'm an achievement whore, inasmuch as I want to nab as many points as possible. However, I won't knock myself out on achievements that are too hard, or on games that are not worth playing to me.

[Tha Xecutioner]

I've always had a problem with the people who rush out to grab every EA game just to get the 1000 points and dump the game right after. If the points meant something or contributed to something, it would be different. But, I just regard the points as something to add a ton of replayability to your favorite games, and to also sort of show off your skill at the game (mainly shooters and racers, as sports games have easy achievements and those 2 genres have what I call the "lifetime achievements" where you have to play the game a LOT to get them). To me, getting 1000 points on CoD2 or FarCry or PGR3 is a lot more impressive than having 45000 overall points.

[-Never4ever-]

Isn't there a GRAW acheivement that you can only get by being in the worldwide top ten online players?

[RelentlessRolento]

If you can't play DoA4, you probably need to play more fighters... it's one of the easiest fighters out there so I don't see why you have such a problem with it. oh well, not everyone is good at fighters I understand. Just like I am never good at sports games.

[Apossum]

you paid $60 to get achievment points? there is a much larger "problem" here :lol:

[mr ryles]

Don't know how many times I say this, but I barely play my ps or gamecube anymore just because I can't get achievements for it.

[gamereviewgod]

There were a few games I couldn't make it through. Single player in the Outfit was unberable, so I never finished that. Over G Fighters was another, though I mildly enjoyed it to get about half. Ridge Racer I played to death, and I still don't have 150 points. Those are utterly ridiculous.

I stand by that Full Auto has the best Achievements out there. They're all obtainable with work, they're frequently rewarded, and spread out nicely throughout the entire game.

I'm happy with my score (23,186), but a few developers really need to understand the system.

[sj41]

Whats the point of the no-life points? I am intrested in them SLIGHTLY and when I get a 360, ill prob do a few, but some poepl go nuts over these! It gives you a reason to play games and get the most out of them. For Call of Duty 2, I probally would never have tried to play the veteran difficulty if not for being able to show people that I was able to do it (although I still didn't beat two levels due to the difficulty). For G.R.A.W., I probally wouldn't have even continued to play the single player after I got stuck at a certain point.

It's a good system that Sony is ripping off for the PS3. It sounds stupid when you say it, but it makes so much sense once you start unlocking them.

[mr ryles]

There were a few games I couldn't make it through. Single player in the Outfit was unberable, so I never finished that. Over G Fighters was another, though I mildly enjoyed it to get about half. Ridge Racer I played to death, and I still don't have 150 points. Those are utterly ridiculous.

I stand by that Full Auto has the best Achievements out there. They're all obtainable with work, they're frequently rewarded, and spread out nicely throughout the entire game.

I'm happy with my score (23,186), but a few developers really need to understand the system.

Same with Burnouts achievements. They require you to actually play through the game beat it and play it alot. (like the 1000 takedowns achievement) It does have a few dumb online ones though.

[NeueZiel]

I don't go out and buy/rent games just to get achievements, but if I get a game I like I usually try to get them all. I think it is a good idea cause I probably wouldn't have played COD2 on veteran, and that game plays differently on veteran (no more run and gun). However, I wish they would have used the achievement points as what you use to buy stuff off of xbl (except arcade games I realize they do need to get some sort of profit off of those). That would really help sales on some games, but they would definitely have to fix the system so that the more difficult points are worth the most.

[GizmoGC]

It's a good system that Sony is ripping off for the PS3. It sounds stupid when you say it, but it makes so much sense once you start unlocking them.

Its Sony. Anything that works for the compeition they implement in there new system and call it there own.

[mik]

There were a few games I couldn't make it through. Single player in the Outfit was unberable, so I never finished that. Over G Fighters was another, though I mildly enjoyed it to get about half.
Wow, I really enjoyed the single-player component of The Outfit. But I'm with you on OVer G--blech.

[Roufuss]

Don't know how many times I say this, but I barely play my ps or gamecube anymore just because I can't get achievements for it.

My PS2 + GC aren't even hooked up yet and I've had the new tv for over a week now ;)

[rabbitt]

Although the points themselves are basically mush now, it is still lots of fun to try and get them. I feel that it adds an extra level of replay (usually) to a game you might otherwise only play once or occasionally.

[ryanbph]

i try to get as many as possible but I am not going to waste my time renting a game for it...kinda pissed that i got my graw points offline, and they show up right now on xbox.com, but not in my gamertag on cag

[dastly75]

Eh I wish the points did something like they acted as marketplace points. Maybe like 10 gamer pts = 1 marketplace pt or something like that but they're pretty much useless so I dont bother.

[GrimNecroWizard]

What are the points for other than just being there? Do you unlock things or what?

[ryanbph]

they are there solely for ego boosting

[Duo_Maxwell]

I'm obligated to insert a semi-related PA comic:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2006/20060619.jpg


Honestly though, I never really bought into the concept. A decent number of my firneds either play games casually or hardly at all so if I started telling them how pimp my 360 achivement score is to boast my gaming ego, they'd probably laugh at me or just stare blanky at me.

[RelentlessRolento]

I always thought it wouldn've been a perfect system if instead of gamerscore, you earn MS Points instead, even if it were a tiny amount... It would make gamers more willing to work hard in games for points to use to upgrade other games... sadly, it's just a way to boost ego (lame).

[terribledeli]

There's going to be another purpose for these points. Microsoft is a little too perticular for them to just be ego boosting. If they didn't care, why have the requirement that a retail game is required to include 1000 points over atleast 5 in-game achievements (Though these achievements can be added a later date). Or that certain achievements must be equal to zero points (DoA's loser ones, NCAA 07's achievement for getting achievements, or even Small Arms' viral one).

Any bets that the next Zero Hour-type event invitations are determined by score?

[Sarang01]

There's going to be another purpose for these points. Microsoft is a little too perticular for them to just be ego boosting. If they didn't care, why have the requirement that a retail game is required to include 1000 points over atleast 5 in-game achievements (Though these achievements can be added a later date). Or that certain achievements must be equal to zero points (DoA's loser ones, NCAA 07's achievement for getting achievements, or even Small Arms' viral one).

Any bets that the next Zero Hour-type event invitations are determined by score?

If that's the case I'm going Japanese on them in terms of RPG's if I felt they haven't delivered like they should've.

[danked]

Yeah, I hate the online acheivements.... what about the people that don't/can't play online? Personally, I have Xbox Live Gold, but I just don't care for online games.


what!! the only games i feel have good acheivements are online games

i hate SP games that have realy weak easy acheivements i dont see the fun in getting them if it doesnt take some time or is a bit hard

[captainfrizo]

If I actually received something from my achievements or gamerscore I'd probably care a lot more. Being that it's only for online ego boosting I find it rather worthless.

[darkrage]

Im conflicted over it all. I mean, I think its cool and I get excited when it blips up with 'achievment unlocked' but then I get pissed when I look at my gamercard and see it was only for 20 points.

Im a freelancer in my field, so Ill work 12 hour days in spurts and not have time to play a game, and then Ill be free for a week. Iv got a stack of games that are half finished, and I refuse to send Kameo back to gamefly because I havent unlocked all the achievments and I dont want to actually buy it. Still the thought of me picking it up makes me sick. Its not that fun, but damnit Im not giving up on the points!

[manofpeace20]

I'm not sure why everyone is complaining about the achievements. Microsoft added them in for:

1) Further game replayability
2) Bragging rights on your favorite games

I got my 360 about a week ago and I really got into Marble Blast Ultra on the XBLA. I beat all the intermediate levels under par time, but I haven't bothered playing the advanced levels since they are ungodly hard. At that point I simply stopped playing because it wasn't fun anymore and moved onto something else. That's how it should be.

Also, let's say you don't play videogames much, and maybe you play the same game all the time like my dad does (Madden). Achievement points would only give him more replayability, but since he only plays Gamecube he misses out on that.

[DomLando]

I like acheivements but since I have so many games I usually don't go back to beat games just to get them. EVen so the only game I think I would go back and play right now is COD2 and maybe GRAW. Games like Condenmed where I got half the acheivments the first time through I just dont feel like putting the time in to play again just so I can collect all the birds and metal pieces. I do get excited when it pops up and says acheivment unlocked but I usually dont go out of my way.

[Apossum]

1) Further game replayability

and now people buy games that they hate as well :lol:

[DomLando]

and now people buy games that they hate as well :lol:
Yeah I don't understand the people who rent or buy games they dont like just to get the points.

[manofpeace20]

Yeah I don't understand the people who rent or buy games they dont like just to get the points.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. No one cares if you have 200,000 achievement points....if anything I'll just think you're a dork.

[JSweeney]

Don't know how many times I say this, but I barely play my ps or gamecube anymore just because I can't get achievements for it.

Unless that's a dramatic overstatement, that's kind actually kind of sad.
I can understand if it's a determining factor between buying it for the 360, Gamecube or PS2, or if it's a determining factor for playing like games (a FPS on PS2 or Xbox), but otherwise, that's just kind of disturbing.

Of course, I don't know if it's just that it's "new", so the practice is still novel, but if you won't play other types of games (on the PS2, Xbox, Gamecube, DS, PSP, etc) because you're not constantly having your ego stroked, that's really, really sad.

(Of course, if you only play the styles of games that are in the 360's "wheelhouse", then it's kind of moot.)

[psychobrawler]

Unless that's a dramatic overstatement, that's kind actually kind of sad.
I can understand if it's a determining factor between buying it for the 360, Gamecube or PS2, or if it's a determining factor for playing like games (a FPS on PS2 or Xbox), but otherwise, that's just kind of disturbing.

Of course, I don't know if it's just that it's "new", so the practice is still novel, but if you won't play other types of games (on the PS2, Xbox, Gamecube, DS, PSP, etc) because you're not constantly having your ego stroked, that's really, really sad.

(Of course, if you only play the styles of games that are in the 360's "wheelhouse", then it's kind of moot.)

No, I think a lot of us relate. I could play unplayed title X on my GC or unplayed title Y on my 360. Besides the fact that the 360 is flashier and newer, those little points are defnitely incentive.

I don't get whoring points, but I do try to get as many as possible from the games I'm playing (and enjoying). Sometimes I get through a campaign that I don't like that much (GRAW) and just can't do it again, so the higher difficulty ones just aint happening. But if they seem feasable, I definitely try and do all the little extra things to get the points.

[JSweeney]

No, I think a lot of us relate. I could play unplayed title X on my GC or unplayed title Y on my 360. Besides the fact that the 360 is flashier and newer, those little points are defnitely incentive.

I don't get whoring points, but I do try to get as many as possible from the games I'm playing (and enjoying). Sometimes I get through a campaign that I don't like that much (GRAW) and just can't do it again, so the higher difficulty ones just aint happening. But if they seem feasable, I definitely try and do all the little extra things to get the points.

I only see that argument as viable if Unplayed title X and Unplayed title Y are of similar styles and catagories of games.
Xbox 360 doesn't have much in the way of RPGs, Console Style, Strategy or otherwise.
It's adventure games don't really pile up all that favorably against the competitions, or even the Xbox's.

If you want to play a First or third person shooter, sure, Xbox 360 is the better choice. Parlor games (thanks to Uno and marketplace's other offerings), sure, it's advantage 360.

But really, playing games you may like less because there is this etheral "incentive"? That just seems kind of silly.

All things being equal, I can see it being the clincher. But all things rarely are equal.

[Apossum]

No, I think a lot of us relate. I could play unplayed title X on my GC or unplayed title Y on my 360. Besides the fact that the 360 is flashier and newer, those little points are defnitely incentive.

I don't get whoring points, but I do try to get as many as possible from the games I'm playing (and enjoying). Sometimes I get through a campaign that I don't like that much (GRAW) and just can't do it again, so the higher difficulty ones just aint happening. But if they seem feasable, I definitely try and do all the little extra things to get the points.


if it comes down to over g fighters or chromehounds versus paper mario or smash bros, I don't think achievment points are going to make any difference.

[GizmoGC]

if it comes down to over g fighters or chromehounds versus paper mario or smash bros, I don't think achievment points are going to make any difference.

If it comes down to Halo 3 and Spongebob Squarepants....

[magilacudy]

There were a few games I couldn't make it through. Single player in the Outfit was unberable, so I never finished that. Over G Fighters was another, though I mildly enjoyed it to get about half. Ridge Racer I played to death, and I still don't have 150 points. Those are utterly ridiculous.


Single player for the Outfit was kind of meh... but you can still get achievements through co-op. I played through co-op mode twice, I thought it was that good.

[JSweeney]

If it comes down to Halo 3 and Spongebob Squarepants....

That's neither here nor there, gizmogc.
Halo 3 doesn't need the addition of achievement points to push it over the top.

[nickmad]

achievments = meaningless

[KingDox]

I like them but I don't think I'm going out of my way to get them. I do get a kick out of seeing 'achievment unlocked' pop up on the screen. I can imagine someone who is a member of gamefly can get way more points then me but I can live with my gamer score no matter how low it is.

[ryanbph]

achievments = meaningless
says the guy with his gamerscore and recent games played in his sig

[nickmad]

says the guy with his gamerscore and recent games played in his sig
Yeah smart guy, I dont have that in my sig to show off. I liked the Blanka art and it so happens that I found it incorporated into the gamer card sig.
I play games to have fun, not to score meaningless points.
Blow me.

[graf1k]

Yeah, I have to go with ryanbph on that. If gamerscore and achievements are meaningless why have a gamercard in your sig? The XBL link under all your other info should be sufficient for other CAGs to find you on Live if that's what you want.

Anyway, I've gone from being a serious achievement whore back when mygamercard.net just started up to being more or less ambivalent about them now. I won't play a game I hate or am not interested in to get them and I don't obsess about getting every last achievement out of a game, but I do take a certain level of pride in some of them. I mean today after playing Geometry Wars an hour or so a week since like December, I finally scored over a million. I know there are people out there that have scores like 150M+ but I'm still proud of it because the first time I played it I could barely make it to 10K. Far Cry and COD2 I played on difficulties higher than I normall would because of achievements and I think I'm better at those games for it. So in summation, I don't think achievements are useless but they aren't anything to get stressed about. Me and a couple of friends were like that for most of the early half of this year and after a while you realize there is always somebody with more money and more time and more skill than you out there, so why torture yourself when you are never going to be on top, much less forever. I gave up on that back in April/May and now I just try to keep within range of my friends. When you keep it just amongst friends it's still pretty cool.

[nickmad]

Yeah, I have to go with ryanbph on that. If gamerscore and achievements are meaningless why have a gamercard in your sig? The XBL link under all your other info should be sufficient for other CAGs to find you on Live if that's what you want.

*ahem*I liked the Blanka art and it so happens that I found it incorporated into the gamer card sig.

[Roufuss]

I get all the acheivements I can if the game is a blast to play through, like DoA 4.

Well, going for the ones within my reach anyways, not the "score 100 wins in survival mode" or "play 100 hours" ridiculousness.

Achievements are awesome, to me they make games incorporate alot more replay value because I'm getting every last drop I can out of my games, instead of maybe stopping halfway through a game never to play it again.

[GizmoGC]

That's neither here nor there, gizmogc.
Halo 3 doesn't need the addition of achievement points to push it over the top.

It does when someone is comparing Prey and Chromehounds to Smash Bros and Paper Mario.

[doubledown]

I think some people are getting TOO involved with achievements and now are not enjoying the games. Yes, I do agree they are neat to get, but it's a not a big deal. Especially since people are now using the transfer kit to get FAKE achievement points. I was on 360gamesaves.com and there are people that just want to download the save file so they can get achievement points. This just seems pointless.

[psychobrawler]

The biggest plus to acheivements is when they're used in a unique way to get you to discover a new challenge in a game you already enjoy. Pacifism in Geometry Wars, Chicken in Frogger, COD2 on Veteran, Melee only game in Condemned... Those types of acheivements take good games and give you a challenge and a reason to try them again when you may otherwise not care.

And as far as my earlier statements about deciding which game to play next, I've finished off most of the AAA titles for my GC and Xbox. What I'm left with is a few unplayed shooters (mostly). I have recently spent a good amount of time on RE4, which I hadn't played before, and Hulk UD on Xbox. I won't refuse to play good games over mediocre titles, but the acheivements do add a little extra incentive.

People struggling through terrible games just for points are retarted. Not only are you wasting your time, but you're rewarding devs for making crap when you pay and play anyway...

[javeryh]

I think APs should be as balanced as possible - like there should be 100 or so points that you get for basically trying out the game and then 800 points you unlock playing through to the end with increasing difficulty and the last 100 points should be for the hardcore players who find everything or score a certain amount or something like that...

[Wlogan31]

I don't have an Xbox 360, so correct me if I'm wrong, but can't people use cheat codes to unlock and obtain the achievement points? If so, this seems a bit frustrating to purists/completists such as myself. That said, I still think I'd be addicted to AP if I had a 360...

[javeryh]

I don't have an Xbox 360, so correct me if I'm wrong, but can't people use cheat codes to unlock and obtain the achievement points? If so, this seems a bit frustrating to purists/completists such as myself. That said, I still think I'd be addicted to AP if I had a 360...

Not that I know of ...

[KaneRobot]

I might play something through again to get everything (ie, playing through CoD on Vet difficulty), but it's not enough to get me to buy games I wouldn't normally buy anyway.

...I suppose in that regard, it's actually hurting Microsoft. I spend more times on games I own, so I don't feel compelled to go out and buy additional ones.

[JSweeney]

It does when someone is comparing Prey and Chromehounds to Smash Bros and Paper Mario.

The point is, Paper Mario and Smash Brothers offer a play experience that the Xbox 360 doesn't offer. Earlier posters in the thread were suggesting that they WEREN'T playing other games on other consoles for the sole reason that those consoles didn't offer achievements.

I'd imagine that poster used those game in particular as dramatic overstatement, and point out the foolishness of some of those earlier statements. To play Chromehounds or Prey over Smash Brother or Paper Mario for the sole reason that they offer achievements is just silly. The same could be said for Katamari Damacy and Shadow of the Collosus on the PS2.

NOONE is talking about the overall relative quality of the offerings on ANY of the systems. The point was, it's silly to neglect games that could objectively and obviously be seen as "better" because they don't offer achivements.
(Which some people, earlier in the thread, were suggesting).

[shipwreck]

The point was, it's silly to neglect games that could objectively and obviously be seen as "better" because they don't offer achivements.
(Which some people, earlier in the thread, were suggesting).

It's true though, as silly as it is, I'll gravitate towards playing a game that I can get these nerd points for rather than playing something on another system. It's stupid, but it's true.

[graf1k]

I might play something through again to get everything (ie, playing through CoD on Vet difficulty), but it's not enough to get me to buy games I wouldn't normally buy anyway.

...I suppose in that regard, it's actually hurting Microsoft. I spend more times on games I own, so I don't feel compelled to go out and buy additional ones.

You might, but believe me there are plenty of people out there that achievement points have the opposite effect on. There are people out there that own almost every game for the 360, even the shitty ones. Not only that, but they have two 360s, one for NA or EU (whichever is their region) and one for Japanese games. And obviously you can't rent Japanese games so they buy them. Those are the people that IMO make everybody go "wow, settle down buddy".

[Mookyjooky]

You might, but believe me there are plenty of people out there that achievement points have the opposite effect on. There are people out there that own almost every game for the 360, even the shitty ones. Not only that, but they have two 360s, one for NA or EU (whichever is their region) and one for Japanese games. And obviously you can't rent Japanese games so they buy them. Those are the people that IMO make everybody go "wow, settle down buddy".

Is this you, are you talking about yourself? I'm blinded by your 30,000+ achievement points.

[pimpinc333]

Is this you, are you talking about yourself? I'm blinded by your 30,000+ achievement points.

:rofl:

[deathadder]

Is this you, are you talking about yourself? I'm blinded by your 30,000+ achievement points.


Are you blinded by my gamerscore? :)

BTW, I am in the top 30 on mygamercard.net

Achievements are great.. i hope they incorporate them into the PS3... I also don't rent games to get achievements. I actually own every single game to date. I still have 10 unopened games.

[TC]

I think its funny how after you play a demo it shows it as a played game and lists the achievments for the retail game. I guess they want to make you feel as if your missing an opportunity to get those points. Between that and rentals I have a bunch of games with with zero or only a couple achievments in my profile. :D

[manofpeace20]

I think its funny how after you play a demo it shows it as a played game and lists the achievments for the retail game. I guess they want to make you feel as if your missing an opportunity to get those points. Between that and rentals I have a bunch of games with with zero or only a couple achievments in my profile. :D

I wish you could delete those

[shipwreck]

Are you blinded by my gamerscore? :)

BTW, I am in the top 30 on mygamercard.net

Achievements are great.. i hope they incorporate them into the PS3... I also don't rent games to get achievements. I actually own every single game to date. I still have 10 unopened games.

I hope you aren't paying full retail for all those games. Even so, I'm guessing most of those unopened games will stay that way until they could have been picked up for much cheaper. I'll be the first to admit that I have a lot of games sitting around unplayed, but buying every 360 game while they are still expensive just seems like a poor purchasing decision.

[ryanbph]

Yeah smart guy, I dont have that in my sig to show off. I liked the Blanka art and it so happens that I found it incorporated into the gamer card sig.
I play games to have fun, not to score meaningless points.
Blow me.

very touchy on that subject huh?

I would think most people play games to have fun, and if you haven't noticed my gamerscore isn't thru the roof. The achievements boosting one's ego, doesn't have to mean to go and brag to there friends about it. Lets say for example you score a million points in geometry wars, or beat cod 2 on veteran. It is nice to get points, and see the points you have unlocked.

[graf1k]

Is this you, are you talking about yourself? I'm blinded by your 30,000+ achievement points.
Nope. I rent games mostly and don't own a Japanese system. I don't see the point in it. But initially I did rent games that otherwise I wouldn't have for points, namely NBA 2006. Like I said, I've mellowed since April and now only really play games I have an interest in.

One reason I really like achievement points (at least initially) was as a barometer for bullshit. Anyone can say "Oh yeah, I totally beat Ninja Gaiden Black on the highest difficulty" but with achievements there is a record of what you have or haven't done. That is untill the shit with the game saves started. Now you don't know who go what legit anymore.

[shipwreck]

That is untill the shit with the game saves started. Now you don't know who go what legit anymore.

Is there actual proof that people have gotten achievements with downloaded game saves? I'm pretty sure Microsoft had blocked this from happening, but I haven't followed the mod scene too closely.

[doubledown]

Is there actual proof that people have gotten achievements with downloaded game saves? I'm pretty sure Microsoft had blocked this from happening, but I haven't followed the mod scene too closely.

People can transfer the save for the Transfer Kit and I think most saves leave them right before the end of the game. I know PREY had a save point I think. Who knows....I could be wrong, but I feel some scores are inflated.

[shipwreck]

People can transfer the save for the Transfer Kit and I think most saves leave them right before the end of the game. I know PREY had a save point I think. Who knows....I could be wrong, but I feel some scores are inflated.

I thought they were implemented differently from the save file though where they were somehow tied to your GamerTag as well. I could be wrong, but I thought that there were concerns about something like this happening and Microsoft had stated that downloaded saves would not affect Achievement Points.

It just seems to me that this would have been a big news story if you could actually do this.

Can you even open up a save file that is not tied to your Gamertag? I know I don't see my wife's Oblivion saves and vice versa. (Edit: It looks like you can unlock the saves from your console and Gamertag somehow with the Transfer Kit.)

[JSweeney]

It's true though, as silly as it is, I'll gravitate towards playing a game that I can get these nerd points for rather than playing something on another system. It's stupid, but it's true.

Is that if all things are equal, and the games offer a similar experience, or will you play through a game with say, and average rating at gamerankings of 4.5 as opposed to playing a game with an average rating at gamerankings of 9.5 on a different platform (PS2, Gamecube, Xbox, etc.) just to earn those extra points?

[shipwreck]

Is that if all things are equal, and the games offer a similar experience, or will you play through a game with say, and average rating at gamerankings of 4.5 as opposed to playing a game with an average rating at gamerankings of 9.5 on a different platform (PS2, Gamecube, Xbox, etc.) just to earn those extra points?

The 4.5 rating is a little extreme as there hasn't even been a 360 game in that range yet, but I've played through several 7ish rated 360 games (Amped 3, Full Auto, Gun to name a few) while stuff like Resident Evil 4, Shadow Of Colossus, Metroid Prime, Wind Waker, KOTOR etc. sit there on my shelf.

[flybrione]

Me and a friend of mine keep up with each other through competion. We battle it out and see who gets done with the game first sometimes and brag about our points to one another. We also borrow each other games that the other does not own.

We both work and have about the same amount of time to game so our scores are almost about identical. I am currently in the lead by about 400 points but that is because he went on vacation with his wife. He was up about 200 before he went on vacation.

Also to me so far the worst game I purchased was Over G fighters but I got that doing the trade in deal at gamecrazy and got rid of my old Madden and Tiger Woods for it basically because there was nothing new to buy and I had to use the credit towards the purchase of a 360 game.

[Stryffe2004]

I love the AP's. It gives you some sort of gratification even before you beat the game. Also, if you are playing on LIVE, you can gauge the competition based on what they have accomplished on an individual game. If you see that some has unlocked every achievement on all of the racing games and you are struggling, you can ask for tips or know that you need to avoid that person. If you see that you play all the same games, you may want to add that person to your friends list. Don't look at them only for their face value. They have real world uses besides ego boosting.

[xmagxus]

wow i just read all this lol. I saw someone ask if there is a way to tell who is legit... in most cases there is.

For example Compare death adder 187's rumble roses achievements to mine (jcnet)

We both have 1000 points BUT you can tell he gamesaved his because he has the face achievement followed by the heel achievement for each wrestler. the way the game is setup you have to choose a different wrestler to get the title shot.

So for example he has rowdy reiko achievement first that means that the next character he uses for the title shot would have to be someone other than reiko hinomoto since she would be wrestling herself to take the belt from herself.

On my gamercard you see I have to use a different actual wrestler for each achievement and then later have to go back and earn the heel or face version of the achievement. It's not that hard just time consuming.

I've noticed a lot of people proud of their top spots on the board do account swapping and gamesaves. Quick to gloat of their rank but very hush hush about how they obtained those points.

Other examples on death adders card: he got almost all the pdz achievements in PDZ in a day. he must be a god at that game because he beat the game so fast he managed to get thedark agent achievement for beating the game on dark before he even got the achievement for beating 1 dark agent level.. AMAZING!

i dont mind that he used gamesaves.. but I do mind that he acts like he was in the top 30 or something when his score was fradulent.

I will give him props though it looks like he did MOST of ridge racer legit... that game took me forever and a day to get 1000 in. its easy to get around 800 in it but after that it takes forever.

[zewone]

wow i just read all this lol. I saw someone ask if there is a way to tell who is legit... in most cases there is.

For example Compare death adder 187's rumble roses achievements to mine (jcnet)

We both have 1000 points BUT you can tell he gamesaved his because he has the face achievement followed by the heel achievement for each wrestler. the way the game is setup you have to choose a different wrestler to get the title shot.

So for example he has rowdy reiko achievement first that means that the next character he uses for the title shot would have to be someone other than reiko hinomoto since she would be wrestling herself to take the belt from herself.

On my gamercard you see I have to use a different actual wrestler for each achievement and then later have to go back and earn the heel or face version of the achievement. It's not that hard just time consuming.

I've noticed a lot of people proud of their top spots on the board do account swapping and gamesaves. Quick to gloat of their rank but very hush hush about how they obtained those points.

Other examples on death adders card: he got almost all the pdz achievements in PDZ in a day. he must be a god at that game because he beat the game so fast he managed to get thedark agent achievement for beating the game on dark before he even got the achievement for beating 1 dark agent level.. AMAZING!

i dont mind that he used gamesaves.. but I do mind that he acts like he was in the top 30 or something when his score was fradulent.

I will give him props though it looks like he did MOST of ridge racer legit... that game took me forever and a day to get 1000 in. its easy to get around 800 in it but after that it takes forever.
Hahaaha, what a $$$ model (him, not you). I <3 detective work.

[shipwreck]

wow i just read all this lol. I saw someone ask if there is a way to tell who is legit... in most cases there is.

For example Compare death adder 187's rumble roses achievements to mine (jcnet)

We both have 1000 points BUT you can tell he gamesaved his because he has the face achievement followed by the heel achievement for each wrestler. the way the game is setup you have to choose a different wrestler to get the title shot.

So for example he has rowdy reiko achievement first that means that the next character he uses for the title shot would have to be someone other than reiko hinomoto since she would be wrestling herself to take the belt from herself.

On my gamercard you see I have to use a different actual wrestler for each achievement and then later have to go back and earn the heel or face version of the achievement. It's not that hard just time consuming.

I've noticed a lot of people proud of their top spots on the board do account swapping and gamesaves. Quick to gloat of their rank but very hush hush about how they obtained those points.

Other examples on death adders card: he got almost all the pdz achievements in PDZ in a day. he must be a god at that game because he beat the game so fast he managed to get thedark agent achievement for beating the game on dark before he even got the achievement for beating 1 dark agent level.. AMAZING!

i dont mind that he used gamesaves.. but I do mind that he acts like he was in the top 30 or something when his score was fradulent.

I will give him props though it looks like he did MOST of ridge racer legit... that game took me forever and a day to get 1000 in. its easy to get around 800 in it but after that it takes forever.

Wow, that's really lame to brag about your gamerscore when you are just using gamesaves to inflate your score. I see Death Adder has about 62000 achievement points now. I guess if he's having fun with it, it's not a big deal, but I really don't see the point.

[javeryh]

wow i just read all this lol. I saw someone ask if there is a way to tell who is legit... in most cases there is.

For example Compare death adder 187's rumble roses achievements to mine (jcnet)

We both have 1000 points BUT you can tell he gamesaved his because he has the face achievement followed by the heel achievement for each wrestler. the way the game is setup you have to choose a different wrestler to get the title shot.

So for example he has rowdy reiko achievement first that means that the next character he uses for the title shot would have to be someone other than reiko hinomoto since she would be wrestling herself to take the belt from herself.

On my gamercard you see I have to use a different actual wrestler for each achievement and then later have to go back and earn the heel or face version of the achievement. It's not that hard just time consuming.

I've noticed a lot of people proud of their top spots on the board do account swapping and gamesaves. Quick to gloat of their rank but very hush hush about how they obtained those points.

Other examples on death adders card: he got almost all the pdz achievements in PDZ in a day. he must be a god at that game because he beat the game so fast he managed to get thedark agent achievement for beating the game on dark before he even got the achievement for beating 1 dark agent level.. AMAZING!

i dont mind that he used gamesaves.. but I do mind that he acts like he was in the top 30 or something when his score was fradulent.

I will give him props though it looks like he did MOST of ridge racer legit... that game took me forever and a day to get 1000 in. its easy to get around 800 in it but after that it takes forever.

This is a great post. I love achievement points and I do try to unlock them in the games I play - but I'm content with my 2,500 or so.

[benjamouth]

I like the Achievement points but I won't play a game I don't like just to get them, or in the case of Lego Star Wars 2, repeat levels ad nauseum just to get points.

I don't think the totals are really any indication of skill though, but it's good proof that you've beaten GOW on Insane or Completed FEAR using 500 rounds etc

[elsnow77]

i hate all these stupid achievements like in COD2 there is a 50 point one just for beating a 1 minute training camp. I wish there only like 4 or 6 achievements for each game, and they actually proved something. Also, i don't think sports, and other type games should have achievements

[JSweeney]

i hate all these stupid achievements like in COD2 there is a 50 point one just for beating a 1 minute training camp. I wish there only like 4 or 6 achievements for each game, and they actually proved something. Also, i don't think sports, and other type games should have achievements

I don't think any of the games you like should have achievement points.
See how short-sighted that sounds?
Sure, you may be "hardcore" and look down on it, but there are plenty of people out there that are more than content to only play sports games.
Why cut them out of the "fun"?

[benjamouth]

i hate all these stupid achievements like in COD2 there is a 50 point one just for beating a 1 minute training camp. I wish there only like 4 or 6 achievements for each game, and they actually proved something. Also, i don't think sports, and other type games should have achievements

Are you discriminating against sport games because you think their achievements are easy ?

If so, try completing all the International challanges on World Cup 2006 which is worth 500, then tell me sport games have easy achievements.

[mik]

Sports games ahve definitely gotten better with the values and distribution of their achievement points.

[lilboo]

I think it ads a fun level of replay value.. but some achievements are either too hard, or waaaay too much of a hassle/time consuming. All of the achievements in Rumble Roses are a good example of "hassle/time consuming"

[Dingleberry]

Wow, that's really lame to brag about your gamerscore when you are just using gamesaves to inflate your score. I see Death Adder has about 62000 achievement points now. I guess if he's having fun with it, it's not a big deal, but I really don't see the point.

I looked for the thread and the auction but couldn't find it. But someone posted an ebay auction of someone selling their Live account that had over 80,000 gamerpoints for over $3,000 or something like that.

[PatFortenbaugh]

I am a huge Achievement whore. I played GUN 4 times to get all of the achievements, Condemed 2x. So I think I am perty dedicated to getting all of the achievements on games, but then I ran in to the Pile of Crap i call Dead or Alive 4. To me this game is unplayable. Everything seems so fast except the my character. I hate that freaking game. And the only other problem I am having is games like Quake 4 and PDZ, where they want you to play online for hundreds of hours to get them all. Are there any other achievement whores having these Problems?


"Everything seems so fast except my THE character"
perhap less time spent on games and more spent on grammer?

[captainfrizo]

"Everything seems so fast except my THE character"
perhap less time spent on games and more spent on grammer?

Maybe you should take some grammar (and spelling) classes yourself or find another joke that doesn't make you look as inapt as the person you're trying to make fun of.

[DiscoDuck8k]

Achievements to me are usually just a good way to increase the replay value of a game; it's something else to work towards, that's all. I think they're pretty neat, but it's hard to believe some people actually get games they wouldn't normally play just for the sake of having more points.

[elsnow77]

i hate it when games have online achievements. Like the GRAW one where you have to be ranked number 1 or something like that. Those game programers must have been on fucking cranack. I also didn't like all the one's in saint's row that where just like how long c you play this game straight withought going crazy. Like the one that says get 1 million dollars (I only got up to like 750,000 before i quit the game due to gears of war), or find all cd's/tags and the one that says get 100 multiplayer clothing items

[moojuice]

THe only reason I care about achievment points is from a completionist (lol, is that even a word?) standpoint. When I pop in a game and see that I am missing x/1000 points or whatever, it just bugs me because to me, its not %100ing a game. But I really shouldn't be one to talk. Thanks to CAG, I've been buying games left and right when they are at good prices, and I haven't
1000/1000'd a game since CoD2 >_<

[mr ryles]

I have yet to get 1000 points on a single game. It is kind of bugging me, may go back to fight night just to get that last one I need.