Assassin's Creed - Gen. Discussion & Info

[CrimsonPaw]

You can't just put their reviews under this whole '1up.com' banner, and like I said before...yes, if this score came from someone like Milky or Shoe, I might find something suspect in it.
Actually, yes you can. As someone who checks review sites and doesn't pay attention to the reviewer, the review given is the review the site gives.

I don't give a shit if "Gamer Stud" gave the game a 2 when the rest of the site would have given it an 8, if a 2 is posted that is what the site gives. I understand that some people are going to have a variance in what they give (one person gives a 7.3 when another gives 7.8), but there needs to be some consistency to the scores or the trust in those scores go out the window.

That's like saying that McDonald's is good only when Bruits is cooking, but when Harold is cooking it's bad .... there has to be consistency or all credibility goes out the window.

[CrimsonPaw]

ah well gotta wait till tomorrow, none of the 5 Gamestops in town are getting it today and even if they do they're not putting it on shelves till morning...bastards
That's interesting since I got a call last night saying my LE would be in this afternoon. I wouldn't be surprised if I called and they say it'll be in tomorrow since the ship date was today. Either way, I'm a bit psyched for this game.

[archibishopthedoge]

That's interesting since I got a call last night saying my LE would be in this afternoon. I wouldn't be surprised if I called and they say it'll be in tomorrow since the ship date was today. Either way, I'm a bit psyched for this game.

They've done that to me in the past, was the call automated? I remember when Gears came out, they called me on the Monday for Tuesday pickup, wasnt there Tuesday, called me AGAIN on Tuesday for Wednesday, wasnt there Wednesday, no call Wed, there Thurs :lol:

[FoxHoundADAM]

Yeah from the review it seams that it is a little repetitive and suffers from beautiful level that don't have much variety. The combat and atmosphere sound amazing but the constant information "fetch" missions might kill this for me too.
I'll defiantly play this one but it sounds like a very good rental.

My bet is an 8.8 grom IGN and a solid 8.5 from GS.

[Sofa King Kool]

I'll be picking this up tonight for $35 bucks after I buy Galaxy. You can't go wrong for $35 bucks.

[Ryukahn]

I'll be picking this up tonight for $35 bucks after I buy Galaxy. You can't go wrong for $35 bucks.

Yeah, that's what I'm planning to do as well. I hope TRU has it in stock when I go to pick up Galaxy.

[Sofa King Kool]

Yeah, that's what I'm planning to do as well. I hope TRU has it in stock when I go to pick up Galaxy.

They'd better. My whole week has revolved around tonight...

[Ryukahn]

They'd better. My whole week has revolved around tonight...

Well, I'm sure you can get Assassin's Creed later in the week if they don't have it tonight. The closest TRU to me is like 35 mins away, so that's why I'm hoping they have both tonight, as I don't feel like making 2 trips, but I have to ensure I at least get Galaxy tonight for the gift card.

[thrustbucket]

It's pretty sad when we're discussing if they spoil the twist at the beginning when everyone and their brother already knows what the twist is.

Actually no I don't. and I am glad I don't. And please keep this thread clear of spoilers.

Where are people getting this for $35?

[terribledeli]

Where are people getting this for $35?

Buying Galaxy at Toys R Us and getting the $25 gift card. Then using the gift card to purchase Assassin's Creed for $35 instead of $60.

[archibishopthedoge]

7.9 from TeamXbox

http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1428/Assassins-Creed/p1/
"....shiny and multifaceted, but deeply flawed"


They've even got some of the future setting screenshots. That aspect of the story makes perfect sense to me in one regard, it will allow sequels to take place in other time periods.

[zengonzo]

I don't mind the sci-fi aspect to the plot, but those goofy flashes that interrupt the gameplay so often is a real detractor. I find them very disruptive.

That said, can't wait to play this one ..

[archibishopthedoge]

http://www.planetxbox360.com/index.php/articledetails/show/3035

Reviews are getting worse now...

6.7/10 PlanetXbox

[ihadFG]

Well now I'm glad I didn't get the Collector's Edition. Although I'll have to decide that for myself once I get the game.

[LinkinPrime]

I'll be PM'ign Fry's at Best Buy and getting it for $39.99. I was going to go with the Collectors Edition but I'm not paying $30 more for it.

[FoxHoundADAM]

As always the initial reviews seam to be a little high. I guess the hype machine/anticipation adds a few points.

[Ryukahn]

IGN has a video review up

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/834/834724/vids_1.html

Hil says It's in the top 5 most disappointing games of all time based on what it could have been. Ouch

[Soodmeg]

Damn, this game fell faster than Brittany Spears career.

I am not surprised that underneath the hood this games falls short.

It sound way to good to be true. I was so impressed by the preview a while back but something always irked me about it. I couldnt figure out what you did in between the assassinations. I knew the game wouldnt allow you just to go kill who ever you wanted at any time a la Crackdown but no one ever said what you were suppose to do in the down time.

I guess now I know.....the same thing over and over and over again.

I will still pick this up...but not if its over 30 bucks or so. This just fell way down on the list. Hopefully Kane and Lynch will delivery.

Hopefully in sheer irony...Assassins creed (game with tons of hype) will fail and Kane and Lynch (game with no hype at all ) will be great.

[whoknows]

IGN has a video review up

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/834/834724/vids_1.html

Hil says It's in the top 5 most disappointing games of all time based on what it could have been. Ouch
Sad, but I'm still getting it. Would have to get like...sub 5 for me to pass.

[Ryukahn]

Sad, but I'm still getting it. Would have to get like...sub 5 for me to pass.
Yeah, I'm still getting it since it's the only game on my radar to combine with the TRU Galaxy deal, so I don't mind paying $30 or so for it.

The fact that it seems really hit and miss with the gaming reviewers leads me to believe I'll like it too, which is another plus. :)

[blue_volvo]

Ubisoft's games have a history of sometimes dropping pretty quickly in price. I think all of the PoPs went down significantly within 6-8 weeks. Along with those low review scores I will hold out buying this one for a bit.

[whoknows]

Did IGN give it a score?

And yeah, Ubisoft games do drop in price very quickly. I didn't really think about that, but now I'm thinking of waiting.

Eh, only a week until Uncharted if I do decide to wait.

[Ryukahn]

Did IGN give it a score?

And yeah, Ubisoft games do drop in price very quickly. I didn't really think about that, but now I'm thinking of waiting.

Eh, only a week until Uncharted if I do decide to wait.

No written review yet, and the video review didn't give it a score, but I didn't listen to all of it (just beginning and end since I want to avoid spoilers).

I had thought about the price drop too, but like I said before, there isn't anything else I'd really use the TRU gift card on, so it's basically getting the price drop now.

[LinkinPrime]

Well, here are some oposite and way positive reviews:

Game Informer 9.5 out of 10
95.0%
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/images/gr/siteprofile.gif (http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/sitedetails.asp?siteid=1275) 1UP (http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=821481) 7 out of 10
70.0%
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/images/gr/siteprofile.gif (http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/sitedetails.asp?siteid=1503) Gametrailers (http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=821456) 9.1 out of 10
91.0%
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/images/gr/siteprofile.gif (http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/sitedetails.asp?siteid=46) GamePro 5 out of 5
100.0%

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/930278.asp
I say, fuck the naysayers, I'll be picking this up tomorrow for $39.99 with a $30 RZ cert. so I can't go wrong :D

[seanr1221]

Yea, after those reviews I'm waiting on a price drop (No FRYs here). No point in picking it up when I just got Mario and Call of Duty and getting Uncharted next week.

[terribledeli]

I wouldn't consider a 7 a positive review. Average, yes. But not positive.

And Gamepro? Come on. They totally gave Jericho that same score. While the game is enjoyable, its a solid 65.

[imascrub]

hmm IGN despite all the negative things Hilary said about the title, he still gave it a 7.7, which is still pretty decent in my book.

Also, Famitsu gave it a 37/40 review, though I don't know how well they rank among readers.

[glockant]

price drop FTW!

[Sofa King Kool]

Wtf? Isn't this supposed to be out today? The guy at TRU just told me that they weren't selling it until tomorrow...

[King]

Yeah I'm still picking this one up despite some reviews.

[JDMxB]

With all the other AAA titles coming out i'm almost glad I can hold off on this one, or at least just rent it.

Very disappointing since the hype machine for this game is almost up there with Halo 3.

[InuFaye]

suposedly there is an embargo on all reviews that were less then 90%. Fuck game reviewers you cant trust them one bit.

[terribledeli]

Yeah I'm still picking this one up despite some reviews.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still buying. The missus wants it. And as you can tell by my gamercard, the bad reviews for Party Animals didn't stop her from wanting it.

[Soodmeg]

Here is what I dont get though.

AC is suppose to be very creative and original but as a few flaws. Repetition is one that is said the most.

But these are the same people who bust a 2 nuts and a gut when Halo 3 dropped. Halo 3 which is basically a carbon copy of one and two with a horrid storyline that ends in a cop out. Horrid AI for your team mates..but it got 9's across the board.

If you like Halo 3 or not you can not deny its basically the same thing as the first 2 games with little innovation. Adding more guns to a FPS...yeah thats super original.


This is why I hate the fucking gaming industry. Any time a producer tries to think outside the box and try something new, reviewer will rip it apart and apparently forget that its harder to make an original game so you might what to cut them a break.

But HOLY SHIT MONKEY....UN REAL CALL OF HALO BIO TIMESPLITTERS 43543 IS COMING OUT...ZOMG THIS TIME THEIR SHOOTING DEAD BABIES OUT OF THEIR GUNS NOW!!!!! ARRAGAGHAGH.


FPS have been the same for 20 years but every time one comes out reviewers shit a brick at the awesomeness of it.

This is why we get 3 or 4 sequels to video games...and why 45 FPS come out a year. Producers are to scared to do anything else....FPS are the safe bet.


Bah.

EDIT:

I just think that people forget that when you go to make an truely orignal game...it takes some time to think up and then program each part of it. I mean..by the time they figured out how to even do the Free run programming you most likely could have thought up, programmed, and be well into the beta testing fo a FPS.

The code for FPS have been laid out for years now...most of them dont even use their own engine...they just mooch off the Unreal engine. So of course there is going to be some hiccups...but its never been done before.

[linkpwns]

Here is what I dont get though.

AC is suppose to be very creative and original but as a few flaws. Repetition is one that is said the most.

But these are the same people who bust a 2 nuts and a gut when Halo 3 dropped. Halo 3 which is basically a carbon copy of one and two with a horrid storyline that ends in a cop out. Horrid AI for your team mates..but it got 9's across the board.

If you like Halo 3 or not you can not deny its basically the same thing as the first 2 games with little innovation. Adding more guns to a FPS...yeah thats super original.


This is why I hate the fucking gaming industry. Any time a producer tries to think outside the box and try something new, reviewer will rip it apart and apparently forget that its harder to make an original game so you might what to cut them a break.

But HOLY SHIT MONKEY....UN REAL CALL OF HALO BIO TIMESPLITTERS 43543 IS COMING OUT...ZOMG THIS TIME THEIR SHOOTING DEAD BABIES OUT OF THEIR GUNS NOW!!!!! ARRAGAGHAGH.


FPS have been the same for 20 years but every time one comes out reviewers shit a brick at the awesomeness of it.

This is why we get 3 or 4 sequels to video games...and why 45 FPS come out a year. Producers are to scared to do anything else....FPS are the safe bet.


Bah.

I think you are extremely incorrect. This game has a metacritic average of 83 so far... That is a great score. You are taking this way out of hand. Why do you give a fuck anyway? If you like a game get it, it not, don't... Reviews have nothing to do with you.

[Soodmeg]

I think you are extremely incorrect. This game has a metacritic average of 83 so far... That is a great score. You are taking this way out of hand. Why do you give a fuck anyway? If you like a game get it, it not, don't... Reviews have nothing to do with you.

Alrightly there buck o.

No I am not taking this way out of hand. I was simply stating my opinion on what I feel the gaming industary does. No matter how you look at it...games that are truely orignal are reviewed harshly because most of the time they have some irks in them. Thats fine.

The problems that FPS which are a dime a million seem to get graded pretty high even if it doesnt bring anything but more levels and different guns to the table.


Now as for reviews...I rarely ever consider them....my reason are stated above. As for the genric dumbass "Why the fuck do you care" statement as comes whenever anyone ask a question about reviewers.....uhh were on a video game website...talking about videogames. I care enough to visit this website....you seem to also since you are here to.

EDIT:

By the way. Anyone who says, "why the fuck do you care...dont listen to reviewers" that is really a small minded outlook. Yes its true that I could really care less about what a reviewer has to say......but Game Companies do. Reviews are a critical part in the gaming industry. You can see as well as I do when companies go crazy over reviews. Lair for example had horrid reviews and Sony when insane because of it. Even sending out "How to review Lair" books to websites.

Its not that I care what reviews have to say....its Companies do. So every time an original game gets a bad review (and I am not saying that AC reviews are that bad yet....but in general) it makes companies less willing to risk doing other original games. Hence we get 50 FPS a year. Hence my whole problem with reviews.

[MadFlava]

I think sales of AC will do well enough to support the creation of a sequel and a correction to all of the gripes gamers/reviewers have of this title. The game engine is built and the team has a great platform to start a sequel or build another game off of the work done in AC.

[Soodmeg]

I think sales of AC will do well enough to support the creation of a sequel and a correction to all of the gripes gamers/reviewers have of this title. The game engine is built and the team has a great platform to start a sequel or build another game off of the work done in AC.

:applause:


Thats all I was saying. When you make an original game that you actually have to kinda invent programming for it might take 1 or 2 games to become perfect.

Reviewers might want to just cut some games a bit of a break and not label it the most disappointing game of the year thus making developers less likely to venture out of the box next go round.

Especially when they hand out 9's and 10's to FPS like hot cakes.

Just think of all the titles like phyconaunts (sp) Grim Fandago that didnt even get off the idea page because some big wig said...no FPS get an average of 9's and 10's make another one of thus but set it in space so it seems new.

All I am saying.

[sendme]

I was just out looking for this game no place has it or can sell it till tomorrow at 2 pm. If I cant get the limited edition I think I'm just going to hold off. However after looking at a pic of the case for it on amazon it looks like it is about what Gears of War came in and that sucked. I dont like the large metal tins. GameStops page for it is down so can anyone that has it let me know what type of case the LE for the 360 is in?

[King]

Gamespot review is up. (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/assassinscreed/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;review) Higher than IGN and 1up, did hell just freeze over?

[opterasis]

You have to keep in mind, FPS is a very well established genre, and theres only so many improvements or advances that can be made. Assassins Creed may be new, and in certain areas groundbreaking, however, its still very flawed, and of course the scores are going to reflect that.

[Ryukahn]

Gamespot review is up. (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/assassinscreed/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;review) Higher then IGN and 1up, did hell just freeze over?


Wow, I believe it has!

[Calamityuponthee]

Gamespot really raves about it. Makes me wonder if they played a different game then IGN did.

Either way, I was going to buy the LE.

Probably won't get a chance to play it until I beat Mario Galaxy, but it's something to look forward to.

[strdr4]

Seriously, WTF? Are these guys even playing the same game?

What really irks me was something I saw in the GT review. While in "casual" mode, you see him come up to a guard and just stab him in the back right in the light of sight of the other guard and yet, the guard acted like his buddy just fell down. He goes over to check his buddy with Alier (sp?) standing RIGHT NEXT TO HIS BUDDY! Then he gets stabbed in the back because the A.I looks to be so stupid.

[nharmon91]

argh why is there no frys here, I would so buy this for $40

[Soodmeg]

Seriously, WTF? Are these guys even playing the same game?

What really irks me was something I saw in the GT review. While in "casual" mode, you see him come up to a guard and just stab him in the back right in the light of sight of the other guard and yet, the guard acted like his buddy just fell down. He goes over to check his buddy with Alier (sp?) standing RIGHT NEXT TO HIS BUDDY! Then he gets stabbed in the back because the A.I looks to be so stupid.

I saw that too.

I saw it a couple times in various gameplay trailers and what not. I saw someone stabbing a lot of people in broad daylight....and guards just didnt really seem to care.


But those are only snip its so maybe it is out of context?

[CrimsonPaw]

I just watched the IGN video review of this and it sounds like his major gripes with the game are exactly what it set out to do. "You have to evesdrop on a person, this is done by simply taking a seat, targeting the person, and listening in ...", well no SHIT, did you think he was going to use his Spidey senses to hear the conversation. I like how he bitches that in order to get away from guards that you have to break their line of site and wait in a pile of hay for 15 seconds -- isn't this pretty much how they do it in MGS except it's a locker?

Essentially it sounds like the reviewer's bitch with the game is that you actually have to do some investigation before the assassination, welcome to realizm (this isn't Hitman). Either way, the review made me even more psyched for this game.

[FoxHoundADAM]

Yeah that IGN review seamed like he took something so personally. He kept complaining about the same 3 things over and over and went on and on about it. Heck based on the text I was surprised it got as high a score as it did.

All and all at this point in the year I'm too broke to buy anything else, but I'll sure as heck be renting this!

[Ryukahn]

Assassin's Creed was a no go at my TRU. They said they'd have it either tomorrow or Thursday.

[Soodmeg]

Assassin's Creed was a no go at my TRU. They said they'd have it either tomorrow or Thursday.

I dont understand why they just cant tell everyone the actually day they can buy it in stores instead of the release/ship date.

Honestly....who really cares when the game ships....people only care when they can go to the store and buy it.

Its just a tad bit confusing because some game you can pick up on the release/ship date...other games you have to wait that extra day for.

I also tried TRU....then I called Walmart and asked if they would sell it at midnight....in which they said no...after 2pm tomorrow.

[Mr Durand Pierre]

I'm going to cancel my preorder. I'd hate to be a tool and trust generic "critics," but I've been reading Eurogamer for years and Tom's always had good tastes, and his criticisms (and praise) seem more than valid. Strangely, IGN wrote by far the most scathing review of the game (calling it possibly one of the 5 most dissapointing games OF ALL TIME!!!), but gave it a 7.7. It's like they're afraid if they give it anything lower than a lukewarm review they'll risk losing their fans. There actually may be some (minor) bit of truth to that, but they're losing their crediblity giving a game a negative review and then tacking on a positive score just to keep the peace.

Gametrailers gave it a 9.1, but even their review sounded more like a high 7, or low 8 at best. I mean he spends a good third of the review talking about all the things the game did wrong.

The game still looks fun as a rental. Pretty much everyone agrees that the game starts out amazing with the running, and the climbing, and the grandiose visuals, but quickly bogs down to a series of repetitive and mundane missions that play out the same way.

I mean there's something fundamentaly wrong about a game where you play as an assassin in a sandbox environment, yet must follow a scripted approach to assassinating your targets. I was hoping for a mix between Crackdown and Hitman, but it sounds more like a buggy (albiet pretty) version of Crackdown. What a waste of potential.

[RudyPants]

I dont understand why they just cant tell everyone the actually day they can buy it in stores instead of the release/ship date.

Honestly....who really cares when the game ships....people only care when they can go to the store and buy it.

Its just a tad bit confusing because some game you can pick up on the release/ship date...other games you have to wait that extra day for.

I also tried TRU....then I called Walmart and asked if they would sell it at midnight....in which they said no...after 2pm tomorrow.

I agree. I went to three different places today just because usually vendors release their games on Tuesday. None of them had it, saying that they haven't even gotten it in yet (as of Tuesday 4 p.m. PST). Doesn't make much sense to tell consumers when the company has shipped it out.

As for the game, I'm kind of glad I didn't buy it after the tepid reviews. Seems to be more of a rental from Gamefly.

[blackflag]

Here is what I dont get though.

AC is suppose to be very creative and original but as a few flaws. Repetition is one that is said the most.

But these are the same people who bust a 2 nuts and a gut when Halo 3 dropped. Halo 3 which is basically a carbon copy of one and two with a horrid storyline that ends in a cop out. Horrid AI for your team mates..but it got 9's across the board.

If you like Halo 3 or not you can not deny its basically the same thing as the first 2 games with little innovation. Adding more guns to a FPS...yeah thats super original.


This is why I hate the fucking gaming industry. Any time a producer tries to think outside the box and try something new, reviewer will rip it apart and apparently forget that its harder to make an original game so you might what to cut them a break.

But HOLY SHIT MONKEY....UN REAL CALL OF HALO BIO TIMESPLITTERS 43543 IS COMING OUT...ZOMG THIS TIME THEIR SHOOTING DEAD BABIES OUT OF THEIR GUNS NOW!!!!! ARRAGAGHAGH.


FPS have been the same for 20 years but every time one comes out reviewers shit a brick at the awesomeness of it.

This is why we get 3 or 4 sequels to video games...and why 45 FPS come out a year. Producers are to scared to do anything else....FPS are the safe bet.


Bah.

EDIT:

I just think that people forget that when you go to make an truely orignal game...it takes some time to think up and then program each part of it. I mean..by the time they figured out how to even do the Free run programming you most likely could have thought up, programmed, and be well into the beta testing fo a FPS.

The code for FPS have been laid out for years now...most of them dont even use their own engine...they just mooch off the Unreal engine. So of course there is going to be some hiccups...but its never been done before.

I think it is a little different. I didn't like halo 3 sp and never played the others but at least within halo 3 there are different aspects to the gameplay. You can drive, fly, shoot. The level designs are different between many.

The complaints about this game even from the 100 review(how can you have a complaint and give it perfect but whatever) is that the way you complete all of the assassinations in the game is EXACTLY the same and the cities. although supposedly different...look almost the same.

So yeah I can see the difference.

[sendme]

I'm thinking Gamestop/EB bought the rights to have this game in store on the 13th. I went to Best Buy, Curcit City, Walmart, Target, a local store(Slackers CDs and Games), and 2 Gamestops and called another. All but the Gamestops did not have them. Gamestops had them but preorder only and they did not get all of the preorders and were hoping to get them for tomorrow and they were unsure about haveing them for tomorrow. So this game is sold out at one of the few places that was selling it and others cant sell till the 14th at 2 pm. I hate to order online but if I can not get the collectors edition at best buy tomorrow I'm ordering online or saying screw it.

[Duke Vandal]

Bah, reviews. They're half love and half hate, so you'll either fall madly in love with the game or you won't. For all the original ideas in this game (in addition to all the awesome gameplay videos I've seen), I'm more than willing to pick it up and take the risk.

Also, answering my question from a few pages back, regarding the PS3 version vs the 360 version: PS3 owners are blessed with a slightly more solid frame rate, although the 360 version features a little more contrast in the lighting, so it's pretty much a wash.

[sendme]

Well unless I can get to Best Buy by 2 pm tomorrow and get the LE I will not be geting this for some time. Everyplace I have looked at online has sold out of Assassin's Creed Limited Edition. Best Buy online has it but chances are it will be sold out in the next day or so. First game all year that I have wanted that I did not pre order I can not find any place. All others I really did not need to preorder so I didnt think I needed to this one. Guess I was way off on that.

[csalzman]

FPS have been the same for 20 years but every time one comes out reviewers shit a brick at the awesomeness of it.



You're right. When I reached the final level of Halo 3 last night, I was very surpsied that the last boss wasn't a mechanized Adolf Hitler. Those wizards at Bungie have done it again!

Sarcasm off, that is a severely asinine statement. One could argue that many game genres have been the same for 20 years, and that the 'devil' is in fact not 'in the details'. However, one chooses not to.

[insano]

Wow....I've honestly never seen more mixed reviews for a game in my life. I already got the game pre-ordered but always just like to QUICKLY read through reviews from different places on all games I'm interested in. I think some people might just say F-this game because of some harsh reviews but reading just a couple of reviews from a few well known sources, I'm not sure why anyone would cancel this pre-order. Check this out:

GameSpot-

"Assassin's Creed will stay with you long after you finish it. Here is one of the most unique gameworlds ever created: beautiful, memorable, and alive. Every crack and crevasse is filled with gorgeous, subtle details, from astounding visual flourishes to overheard cries for help. But it's more than just a world--it's a fun and exciting action game with a ton of stuff to do and places to explore, rounded out with silky-smooth controls and a complex story that will slowly grab you the more you play. Make no mistake: Assassin's Creed is one of the best efforts of the year and a must-own game for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 owners.Assassin's Creed is the kind of game you tell your friends about, and one that should be in your collection."

Gamepro-

"Take a leap of faith with Assassin's Creed and you will be rewarded with one of the finest gaming experiences ever created!"


I know those are just a couple of GOOD things said and none of the bad, but honestly how can remarks like that not have or get gamers interested in playing it. At the end of the day we all know it just comes down to our own opinion of the game. Still, wow, like I said earlier...crazy there's such mixed reviews when some reviews say remarks like that.

[Bravelionheart]

Two questions:

Does anyone have a link to a picture of the opened LE packaging and figure? The one that's being sold at Gamestop?

And is there any way to still get a copy of the CE (or whatever version) that has the 12" Altair figure?

[Soodmeg]

You're right. When I reached the final level of Halo 3 last night, I was very surpsied that the last boss wasn't a mechanized Adolf Hitler. Those wizards at Bungie have done it again!

Sarcasm off, that is a severely asinine statement. One could argue that many game genres have been the same for 20 years, and that the 'devil' is in fact not 'in the details'. However, one chooses not to.

Sarcasm.....on the interweb? Now that is truly original.

No, its not. Your assessment of it is though. But I am not going to go into it again. Every time I make a point...one of you counters it with something off the wall and random as fuck.

You and Asian completely ignored my actually point to focus on shit that is very trivial and childish. So fine....everyone continue to point out ignore my actually logical real point that by the way is based of my sole opinion and focus on taking little details.

Honestly. Did you even know what I was talking about? Or did you just pick out a statement and spend 10 minutes thinking of a cool ass burn you can say along with it?

Yeah...I thought that also.

[csalzman]

Honostly, when I read your post, that line stuck out the most because it was so far off base. Anyways, reviewers score games based on the merit of the title (in theory). You don't get 'cut a break' because its an orignal title thats 'harder to make' (which I don't buy for an instant) - quality games take time and effort regardless if its an original IP or not.

Sorry that you disagree with the reviews, but in the end they don't mean squat. Go enjoy the game. Software developers arn't going to stop trying to make orignal games simply because one game gets reviewed 1 or 2 points lower than you think it deserves.

[help1]

Gametrailers gave it a 9.1, but even their review sounded more like a high 7, or low 8 at best. I mean he spends a good third of the review talking about all the things the game did wrong.


Agreed! The beginning of the video review was like "Oh thats sort of new" and then by the end he started showing a ton of bad things (and GameFAQa has revealed other cons, such as no nighttime setting, uniform weather) and I felt bored just watching the video by the end of it. It just looked to repetitive, and the sword fights looked disengage.

[zengonzo]

You don't get 'cut a break' because its an orignal title

I'm much more willing to invest in a game that aims high and falls a little short than one that hits a solid mark on a well-tread path.

Not that both kinds aren't good, everyone has different tastes, naturally. For me, I like to see something a bit original. I'll forgive technical issues if the game comes up with something unique.

[RudyPants]

I'm thinking Gamestop/EB bought the rights to have this game in store on the 13th. I went to Best Buy, Curcit City, Walmart, Target, a local store(Slackers CDs and Games), and 2 Gamestops and called another. All but the Gamestops did not have them. Gamestops had them but preorder only and they did not get all of the preorders and were hoping to get them for tomorrow and they were unsure about haveing them for tomorrow. So this game is sold out at one of the few places that was selling it and others cant sell till the 14th at 2 pm. I hate to order online but if I can not get the collectors edition at best buy tomorrow I'm ordering online or saying screw it.

All the Gamestops near me told me the game will be released tomorrow (Wednesday). All other places say the 15th is when the game is scheduled to be released. So maybe Gamestop does have an exclusive release, but it's tomorrow, not today.

[DarkNessBear]

You guys are such idiots.

"Wow, 1up gave it a 7. I give up with this game!"

Do you really have to only play games that gets all 100% across the board?

[thrustbucket]

Do you really have to only play games that gets all 100% across the board?

Yes, unfortunately a lot of people do. It's really sad how spoiled today's gamers are.

I think IGN AU's (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/835/835134p1.html) review is very interesting, as it directly addresses IGN US's review.

Their closing comments:

Do yourself a favour; play Assassin's Creed for yourself and make up your own mind. Chance are, if you go in with an open mind and lowered expectations, you're going to walk away very satisfied on most fronts. Regardless, it's an adventure that, for all the self-important dialogue and forced morality, is unquestionably worth your time - particularly for fans that can differentiate between action/platformers and stealth/RPGs.

[insano]

You guys are such idiots.

"Wow, 1up gave it a 7. I give up with this game!"

Do you really have to only play games that gets all 100% across the board?

Pretty much how I feel.

I know movies and games are obviously different but if you read movie reviews and don't watch a movie cause it has bad reviews, I think that's ridiculous and you'd be missing out. For example, tonight I watched Death Proof and if you look at the reviews there's more bad then good by far...but honestly WOW what a bad ass movie that was. We all know at the end of the day it's what our own opinion on something is that counts in whatever (games, movies, etc.). Rent AC if you have doubts, obviously you have interest in the game or you wouldn't be looking up the reviews in the first place.

[sendme]

well they are wrong. The game came out today the 13th. Atleast for people that preordered it got it today. Well some because the shipments were short. It is tomorrow the 14th for most other places.
All the Gamestops near me told me the game will be released tomorrow (Wednesday). All other places say the 15th is when the game is scheduled to be released. So maybe Gamestop does have an exclusive release, but it's tomorrow, not today.

[SNAKE EYES EX]

I'm a little torn but, I think I'll still pick this up later in the week. The game, graphically, looks gorgeous. My main concern was how it plays and it seems universal that it plays well. I can accept that it's the same kind of fun over and over so long as it's done right.

Heck, Gears was the the same 5 minutes of fun for 5 hours and I still enjoyed that. So I'll probably give Assassin's a chance.

[whoknows]

Today is the ship date so very few stores got it in. I'll be getting it tomorrow since that's when the GS near me gets their games.

[blackflag]

You guys are such idiots.

"Wow, 1up gave it a 7. I give up with this game!"

Do you really have to only play games that gets all 100% across the board?


Yeah well forgive me, I'm not going to pay 60 dollars for a game that is getting mixed reviews until I know enough people that like it. I'll let you fan boys have that experience. The only person I know that has it doesn't think is is worth the money because there is no variety in the gameplay and he's already tired of hiding in bails of hay. If enough people I know and trust enjoy it then I'll rent it.

[robin2099]

Yeah well forgive me, I'm not going to pay 60 dollars for a game that is getting mixed reviews until I know enough people that like it. I'll let you fan boys have that experience. The only person I know that has it doesn't think is is worth the money because there is no variety in the gameplay and he's already tired of hiding in bails of hay. If enough people I know and trust enjoy it then I'll rent it.

So, why not just rent it yourself then? I mean you say you don't want to pay $60 for a game with mixed reviews, but then you say you don't even want to rent it unless a bunch of people you know like it. Why not just rent it and try it for yourself?

[blackflag]

Why not just rent it and try it for yourself?

It would require effort. I'd have to go sign up for blockbuster or something. Better just to wait until some people that I know get it and try it to see if it is even worth it. There's too many good games out right now and that I have pre-ordered next week to worry about it too much. Basically if a game gets mixed reviews now, I can't bother with it for a few months....VF5, COD4, Mass Effect, Rock Band

[Brian9824]

You guys are such idiots.

"Wow, 1up gave it a 7. I give up with this game!"

Do you really have to only play games that gets all 100% across the board?

No it doesnt have to be 100% across the board but if i'm going to pay $60 (No FRY's) it damn well better be. That combined with me getting Mass Effect next week and a bunch of other games to still play means I can wait on this game and play it later. From the sounds of the reviews there will be alot of used copies when people beat this game due to no replay value

[SteveMcQ]

Has zew posted any impressions yet?

[archibishopthedoge]

heh just tried to go get it at my local Gamestop (Got the call last night) of course, its not there yet lol, the shipment hasnt arrived, not till 1

ah well, just want it and be done with it, hate this shit

[RedvsBlue]

You guys are such idiots.

"Wow, 1up gave it a 7. I give up with this game!"

Do you really have to only play games that gets all 100% across the board?
And yet what are you forming your opinion of this game from? The few videos that have been released?

[CrimsonPaw]

For me, it's all about playability. I get about 2 - 4 hours worth of gaming in a week so I need something that I can go back to and have fun; Oblivion is a good example of this. I don't care if I play for an hour or two and need to put it down, as long as I can come back to it in a week or a month I'm good. For me, Bioshock is like this - play for an hour then get bored of it, but I still come back to it.

[SpikeSpiegel]

I'm still buying it, I'm not expecting GoTY here but I have a $25 TRU gift card to blow and I feel like wasting some time. Still will be enjoyable I'm sure....I hope.

[thrustbucket]

I'm still buying it because nearly every other "Must Buy" game of this season is an FPS, and I'd like something to play that is good that isn't.

[SteveMcQ]

I'm picking it up regardless of the inconsistent reviews. I'm mostly interested in seeing the recreation of 12th century cities and the parcour type gameplay. Looks to me like a Crackdown set in a different time period and I thoroughly enjoyed just jumping around from building to building in Crackdown.

[archibishopthedoge]

finally got the damn thing

if you preordered at GS, you should get a free hardback book w/ it "The Art of Assassin's Creed"

Its nothing special, smallish, but whatever

[eswat]

finally got the damn thing

if you preordered at GS, you should get a free hardback book w/ it "The Art of Assassin's Creed"

Its nothing special, smallish, but whatever
After being deceived by CoD 4's hardcover art book, I could care less about such things being offered in games now.

[CrimsonPaw]

finally got the damn thing

if you preordered at GS, you should get a free hardback book w/ it "The Art of Assassin's Creed"

Its nothing special, smallish, but whatever
Did you get the LE? I'm heading out to pick mine up and was wondering what you thought of the figure that came with it.

[kromekoran]

man, ordered Monday night from Amazon, chose 2 day shipping (had $50 gift certificate), and they said it should be delivered on Thursday, now it's been delayed to the 19th for some reason. I was looking forward to playing it this weekend too. and Mass Effect on the 20th...should have just chosen free shipping and saved myself $8 since I probably won't play it much until after ME.

[RudyPants]

man, ordered Monday night from Amazon, chose 2 day shipping (had $50 gift certificate), and they said it should be delivered on Thursday, now it's been delayed to the 19th for some reason. I was looking forward to playing it this weekend too. and Mass Effect on the 20th...should have just chosen free shipping and saved myself $8 since I probably won't play it much until after ME.

Just cancel your order. Why wouldn't you?

[sendme]

I was going to order it for that book but when I went to order it they had nothing about it. I saw that you got the book for a week then they took it down and had just the game. So I thought they stopped doing it.

finally got the damn thing

if you preordered at GS, you should get a free hardback book w/ it "The Art of Assassin's Creed"

Its nothing special, smallish, but whatever

[Scorch]

Has anyone actually played the game yet!?

[kromekoran]

Just cancel your order. Why wouldn't you?

order status says it can't be canceled or changed. :/

[nmon3447]

Has anyone actually played the game yet!?

I know from my friends list that Zew0ne and Jaded has played it and as far as Jaded he said he is loving the game so far.

[sendme]

I had ordered the game on bestbuy.com last night only to find today it is on backorder. I just got back from best buy with one. They only had 1 or 2 of the normal one and 2 of the LE. Out of the tins the I have bought and know of this one actually has the game in the game case like you would buy normaly. Only other one that I have that did this was the GS/EB only Resident Evil 4 for the gamecube and I'm guessing the one for the PS2 was the same. Wish they would have done this with Gears of War.

[Trakan]

Has anyone actually played the game yet!?

Yeah. I hate all this review bullshit and people saying they're changing their minds on the game just because it's getting mixed reviews. As someone who's actually played it, I love the game. Everything about it. Don't listen to me though, go play the damn game and fuck what everyone else says.

[SpikeSpiegel]

Yeah. I hate all this review bullshit and people saying they're changing their minds on the game just because it's getting mixed reviews. As someone who's actually played it, I love the game. Everything about it. Don't listen to me though, go play the damn game and fuck what everyone else says.
I second this although I'm not a fan of the tutorial.

[LinkinPrime]

man, ordered Monday night from Amazon, chose 2 day shipping (had $50 gift certificate), and they said it should be delivered on Thursday, now it's been delayed to the 19th for some reason. I was looking forward to playing it this weekend too. and Mass Effect on the 20th...should have just chosen free shipping and saved myself $8 since I probably won't play it much until after ME.
Since they delayed it, check your order status. You should still be able to change the shipping method to free shipping.

[Sofa King Kool]

Just got back from picking it up at TRU. I'll post impressions in a while. I seincerely doubt I'll be dissapointed (especially since it was only $35 bucks).

[Ryukahn]

Just got back from picking it up at TRU. I'll post impressions in a while. I seincerely doubt I'll be dissapointed (especially since it was only $35 bucks).

My TRU still didn't have it, and I don't feel like checking later tonight, so I probably won't have it until tomorrow. Glad to see others are ignoring the reviews and finding out for themselves.

[LinkinPrime]

Didn't know that the game was coming to the DS as well...
http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/8438/8438023.jpg
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8438023&st=assassin's+creed&type=product&id=1182557871317

[Mindzeye82]

is the LE worth it?

[Puffa469]

Sorry if this has been posted already, a live action Assassins Creed video. Its pretty funny.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/129803.html

[Sofa King Kool]

My TRU still didn't have it, and I don't feel like checking later tonight, so I probably won't have it until tomorrow. Glad to see others are ignoring the reviews and finding out for themselves.

I actually called ahead, even though I had already convinced myself they would have it. I asked the lady on the phone if they had it, then I heard her turn to another employee and ask if they had any copies of "Assnin's Green" (She was an idiot, btw). She told me not until tomorrow.

I didn't believe her because 1) She was an idiot, 2) I was pretty damn sure it was supposed to be out today. So I called again and got a different lady, only this time she said they had it. So I drove there, and when I got to the counter, the guy said "We have them in stock, but I can't sell them until tomorrow." Normally, I would've accepted the facts and left, but this was the same guy that literally yelled at me when I asked if they had broken the street date for Bioshock. So, since me and this guy weren't exactly "friendly" towards each other, I bitched at him until he gave me a copy. I don't like to be a 'pain in the ass' customer, but my TRU really sucks...

But yeah, that's how I got it.

[sasukekun]

is the LE worth it?
Depends, if you think the extra stuff is worth $10 to you.

I bought the regular copy since I was able to pricematch it using the Fry's ad and used my $25 SMG Giftcard + $5 RZ Cert. Got AC for ~$13

[sendme]

I thought the LE was worth it but you really don't get all that much. Atleast not as much as I thought you would. Best Buy said you get a small guid for the game and that I was in with the game. From what the case said it was in it but the way things look every place will get the guid so it is not a best buy only thing. To me it was worth it but more should have been added. Atleast the game comes in the normal case and not just put in the tin like most are.

As for the game and the reviews. I have not read any of them and didn't really keep up with the game other then what was on G4 at e3. Something had told me that the game would be like it is. I still said you have to be joking when I started playing it.

***Do not read if you have not played the first 30 minutes of the game or do not want to see some sort of spoiler. I only say this because I have said something that to me changes the game big time. More then any other spoiler for a game and dont want people to bitch. If you have played the first 30 minutes or so then nothing after that has been spoiled. I'm only about that far into the game myself.***

This game could have been so much beter if it was not for the searching dna story line of it. In the e3 videos you could see that the people would glitch and that told me something then. I knew something odd was up with this game because them were not normal glitches and I have never heard of something like that happening in a game. After playing it and in the first minute or so of the game I knew it was some sort of computer program you were in. It would have been so nicer if it was not like that

[Soodmeg]

I thought the LE was worth it but you really don't get all that much. Atleast not as much as I thought you would. Best Buy said you get a small guid for the game and that I was in with the game. From what the case said it was in it but the way things look every place will get the guid so it is not a best buy only thing. To me it was worth it but more should have been added. Atleast the game comes in the normal case and not just put in the tin like most are.

As for the game and the reviews. I have not read any of them and didn't really keep up with the game other then what was on G4 at e3. Something had told me that the game would be like it is. I still said you have to be joking when I started playing it.

***Do not read if you have not played the first 30 minutes of the game or do not want to see some sort of spoiler. I only say this because I have said something that to me changes the game big time. More then any other spoiler for a game and dont want people to bitch. If you have played the first 30 minutes or so then nothing after that has been spoiled. I'm only about that far into the game myself.***

This game could have been so much beter if it was not for the searching dna story line of it. In the e3 videos you could see that the people would glitch and that told me something then. I knew something odd was up with this game because them were not normal glitches and I have never heard of something like that happening in a game. After playing it and in the first minute or so of the game I knew it was some sort of computer program you were in. It would have been so nicer if it was not like that


So....the game is good other than the plot line (which is your opinion) and repetition?

The problem I am running into is this. This game was hyped to be the second coming of Jesus....its not BUT just because its not a 10 out of 10 is it still a pretty good game.

Just because you are not as good as Michael Jordan doesnt mean you are Kwame Brown..you know what I am saying?

Damn...I am so on the fence between this and Kane and Lynch.

[Sofa King Kool]

Ok, I've been playing it for a while now, and I'm happy to say that I'm enjoying it. It took forever to get started, but once it finally did, it was great.

But I must say, the games "twist" is SO unbelievably lame and pointless. Not only did they not need it, but I think the game would've been a hell of a lot better without it. I've chosen to completely ignore that aspect of the game and act as if it's not even there. It's much more enjoyable that way.

[seanr1221]

Sofa, how did you get it for 35.00?

[Sofa King Kool]

Sofa, how did you get it for 35.00?

I bought Super Mario Galaxy yesterday and got the TRU $25 dollar gift card, which I then used on Assassin's Creed.

Awesome game for $35 bucks.

[sendme]

I like the plot well the one. The other the game could do with out. I don't want to say to much with the game just coming out and the one I don't like being the one that no one really knew about.

So....the game is good other than the plot line (which is your opinion) and repetition?

The problem I am running into is this. This game was hyped to be the second coming of Jesus....its not BUT just because its not a 10 out of 10 is it still a pretty good game.

Just because you are not as good as Michael Jordan doesnt mean you are Kwame Brown..you know what I am saying?

Damn...I am so on the fence between this and Kane and Lynch.

I have to say I agree on everything you said SKK. The twist is lame and pointless. If you forget about it this game is great. If I would have kept up with this game and bought into all the hype that was on the net I dont think i would like this game.

Ok, I've been playing it for a while now, and I'm happy to say that I'm enjoying it. It took forever to get started, but once it finally did, it was great.

But I must say, the games "twist" is SO unbelievably lame and pointless. Not only did they not need it, but I think the game would've been a hell of a lot better without it. I've chosen to completely ignore that aspect of the game and act as if it's not even there. It's much more enjoyable that way.

The game is great other then the twist but if you forget that I would have to say this game is a 9 from what I have played so far. It starts slow but seems like it picks up quickly.

[CrimGhost]

The only thing that's making me avoid the game is the stupid A.I., is it really all that bad?

[Sofa King Kool]

I have to say I agree on everything you said SKK. The twist is lame and pointless. If you forget about it this game is great. If I would have kept up with this game and bought into all the hype that was on the net I dont think i would like this game.

The game is great other then the twist but if you forget that I would have to say this game is a 9 from what I have played so far. It starts slow but seems like it picks up quickly.

Fortunately, the "twist" was so poorly inserted into the game that it's actually rather easy to just ignore.

[DesertEagleXIX]

I got a chance to play it for about 90 minutes today.

The graphics are pretty amazing; From the architecture to the draw distance to the character animation, this title wows me. I am a self-admitted framerate whore and have not seen an instance of framerate drop.

The title does seem very linear- go here, do one of five or six mission, now go to the next waypoint. Climbing is fun as hell. Combat is still fun, but I think it will get old soon. It doesn't seem organic enough, instead it's rather binary.

Voice acting is pretty good except for the main character; Some of the accents are fake, but the worst is the voice of the main character, he sounds way too surferish to be in Jerusalem 1200 AD.

Recommendation: Continue on with R&C, COD4 and Super Mario Galaxy and wait for the inevitable price drop on this one. This would have been a stellar title in the dull drums of August, but In November, there are too many compelling games to run out and buy this one.

[DarkNessBear]

I love the Plot, its definetally interesting and makes me curious on what the hell is going on. And it's a nice break after running around killing people for hours straight.

The game is really great and acctually is better then what I thought it would be. I just love how you have to ride to each city.

My only complaints are that the Glowing Enemies STILL annoy me, ergh, why'd they have to do that!? It takes away from the game, instead of having a human guard chasing you, you have a glowing robot chasing you...

And at first the Side missions were lots of fun and were really cool... but they are all the same and once you get to the 2nd city you'll be like, "Uhm... the same side missions still? Really?"

I just hope it changes up eventually.

And how do you assassinate a target while jumping on top of him from a ledge? I cant do it...

[y2kenjination]

How are the load times? I know the PS3 version initially takes about 3 mins for it to install on the HDD, and after that, there's hardly any load times. Does the 360 version suffer from any long load times, specifically on start up?

[skid]

I got the limited edition last night, they drove up a bunch of copies from Chicago, only for those who reserved them.
Does anyone else think that the sound that you hear when you collect each of the twenty flags for the assassin sound exackly like the sound that you hear when you collect one of those gold stone things (I forget what they're called) in the first Turok for N64?

Game is pretty good.
But the tin for the limited edition is just HUGE, it has so much space still left in it when everything is in there.

[Sofa King Kool]

How are the load times? I know the PS3 version initially takes about 3 mins for it to install on the HDD, and after that, there's hardly any load times. Does the 360 version suffer from any long load times, specifically on start up?

The load times seem pretty normal to me.

[imascrub]

what kind of side missions are there?
Are they kind of like Spiderman 2 where random people on the street ask you to do the same things over and over again? .....Cuz I found that to be pretty fun actually. After awhile you start figuring out different ways to jack around in the game lol

[xeno]

anyone have pics of the LE?

[archibishopthedoge]

Did you get the LE? I'm heading out to pick mine up and was wondering what you thought of the figure that came with it.

I just got the regular edition, but GS was giving out little hardback (Art of Creed) books. Rather worthless.

Game is pretty damn good so far, the one thing I HATE is the voice acting for Altair, the actor sounds like they just pulled some jackass off the street to do it, whereas everyone else seems to fit. He sounds like a dumbass.

[thrustbucket]

I'm obviously in a minority here but I don't mind the Twist at all, I think it was ballsy and kind of cool.

Without it, this game would have had to be named "Prince of Persia: The Crusades". And no, that wouldn't have been a good thing.

[archibishopthedoge]

The twist/timeline fits if they ever want to do Assassin's Creed in another setting/time period. I don't mind that aspect at all, the gameplay is what matters and while I'm only shortly in (I just got to Damascus) I really like it so far.

Altair's voice actor should be shot and whoever hired him should never be allowed to cast a game actor again, he's probably banging Jade, only way I can see the idiot getting cast.

It's going to sell through the roof because of the hype (its already Gold) so a sequel is inevitable.

[skid]

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As you can see, the tin is huge.
Also, dirty carpet is dirty.

[CrimsonPaw]

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As you can see, the tin is huge.
Also, dirty carpet is dirty.
My biggest bitch about the LE is that the figure, the ONE thing I wanted most of all, looks like it was painted by a 4 year old with epilepsy. Other than that it was worth the extra $10 (or $3 since I found the 10% off coupon).

[DarkNessBear]

Here I uploaded pics of the front and back of the Limited edition for 360. Inside is just a tin can with the figure and a comic and the game. Nothin special.

FRONT

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/DarkNessLord/ACLEfront.jpg


BACK

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/DarkNessLord/ACLEback.jpg


The figurine is 6 inches tall, so you can see how big the Limited Edition box is in scale.

And here it is in my collection... displayed... =P

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/DarkNessLord/ACHome.jpg

[sasukekun]

That's a pretty disappointing LE, but then again I bought the CoD4 CE and that was just an art book and behind the scenes DVD. Couldnt help it though since I got it for $55 anyway.

[skid]

The nice thing about getting the game a day early was that the worker at gamestop didn't ask me if I wanted the strategy guide for another twenty bucks, since they didn't have it.

[crunchb3rry]

Just say what I say: "Roll that guide up and stick it up your ass. Now give me my fucking receipt, shitbird!"

[archibishopthedoge]

The nice thing about getting the game a day early was that the worker at gamestop didn't ask me if I wanted the strategy guide for another twenty bucks, since they didn't have it.
:lol: I had Kane and Lynch pre-ordered when I went to pick up Assassins today, but I had decided to cancel it as Im getting it from Yourfree360games instead, so I used the (thought) surefire excuse of "I cant afford it right now, just gimme Assassins" to stop him from asking if I wanted to wait, but the guy still tried to upsell me to the LE AND the strat guide. Maybe he knew I was lying, but their upselling is really annoying.

Strategy guides are the biggest load of crap the gaming industry has ever created. I have never bought one/nor used one, as Id rather learn on my own, and shit they're free on the net anyway lol.

[cerial442]

But the tin for the limited edition is just HUGE, it has so much space still left in it when everything is in there.

Yeah, it looks nice but they went overboard with the space.

[Surferflames]

just a heads up guys, play asia is selling a 7" figure for like 16 bucks.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-8x-49-en-70-2928.html

Tempted to order, since it's almost double that of the LE that I didn't get.

[Soodmeg]

GT review is up now.

Score 9.1 for anyone who has not seen it yet.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27616.html

I am will be picking this up.


Oh by the way...here is a good read.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/

Some insight to all the bad reviews about AC. I am sure it wont change anyone minds entirely but at least it gives you another aspect.


EDIT:

By the fucking way. Notice how in the GT review he immediately starts talking about how FPS are the low risk and generally hight scoring, while original games are treated as "going out on a limb" titles.

I believe I was trying to make that very same comparison. Though it might not have been in the best of phrasing but it was the topic I was speaking about.

I am not saying I was 100% right in my assessment...but I was sure as damn hell wasnt wrong.

[DesertEagleXIX]

How are the load times? I know the PS3 version initially takes about 3 mins for it to install on the HDD, and after that, there's hardly any load times. Does the 360 version suffer from any long load times, specifically on start up?

Initial load times are about 20 sec. In game load between regions are 'disguised'. You have control of your character in an empty realm (no location nor enemies). They are about 10 seconds or so.

[R1V3R5]

This looks great but I have a backlog of games for the 360 as well as Mass Effect on the way. So, maybe a good rental for me?

[thrustbucket]

Just put about 4 hours into it.

The reviewers are insane. This is a great game. Very much worth the purchase price of $60. In a sea of never ending FPS's (albeit good ones) this is a huge breath of fresh air.

It has it's problems, and it isn't perfect. But this game very much is a high 8 or 9.

[archibishopthedoge]

Just put about 4 hours into it.

The reviewers are insane. This is a great game. Very much worth the purchase price of $60. In a sea of never ending FPS's (albeit good ones) this is a huge breath of fresh air.

It has it's problems, and it isn't perfect. But this game very much is a high 8 or 9.
I would agree with that.

I just put about 3 solid hours + 2 from this afternoon. I finally decided to start the assassinations and completed the first, and am now in Acre.

I definitely am enjoying it. There are flaws that can't be denied, I can tell the repetition is going to get boring as the game goes on, there is not going to be much variety in terms of the leadup to kills, however, I can tell I am going to have a lot of fun planning the kills and replay is there for trying them again.

It's got some genius to it. The control scheme is AWESOME. Once you get it down (5 minute learning curve) its almost second nature.

The biggest flaw to me as of now is still that damn voice actor for Altair. He just doesnt fit with the great voice acting that is present. The lack of music is a bit eh as well.

I'd say a solid 8 right now. Depending on how it plays out I could see it going to a 9 or down to as low as 6-7 though.

[thrustbucket]

I do find the game very cute for how politically correct it is.

I love how they had to replace Saladin with some other dude. Of course you could argue that you belong to a different group of assassins than Saladin, but the parallels are erie, such as calling him 'old man' as in old man of the mountain, and the fact that he lives in a huge fortress carved into a mountain.

They can't say "praise alah" they have to say "praise somerandomname".

They also can talk a lot about the evil christian crusaders, but you never once hear any mention of Mohomed, Islam itself or any islamic docterine.... It's left incredibly vague. I think it's safe to say Ubisoft was afraid of one religion and not of another :)

Anyway, just some random observations. Liking the game a lot though.

[whoknows]

I do find the game very cute for how politically correct it is.

I love how they had to replace Saladin with some other dude. Of course you could argue that you belong to a different group of assassins than Saladin, but the parallels are erie, such as calling him 'old man' as in old man of the mountain, and the fact that he lives in a huge fortress carved into a mountain.

They can't say "praise alah" they have to say "praise somerandomname".

They also can talk a lot about the evil christian crusaders, but you never once hear any mention of Mohomed, Islam itself or any islamic docterine.... It's left incredibly vague. I think it's safe to say Ubisoft was afraid of one religion and not of another :)

Anyway, just some random observations. Liking the game a lot though.
You mean "Praise God"? That's what I've been hearing, and that's the same thing. Plus they said They made everything into more modern english

[LinkinPrime]

Started with the training yesterday, wow I've been staying away from everything related to this game, didn't expect it to start off like that. Looks pretty interesting so far.

On another note, Best Buy has a stupid "Best Buy Exclusive Mini Strategy Guide" logo on the art cover itself...why couldn't they have a sticker on the outside, now my cover looks cheapened. I'll check out the Cover Art Project to see if I can find and print a new cover.

[DarkNessBear]

That sucks linkin. It's funny though, I got a mini strategy guide to... and I got it at Gamestop.

I would agree with that.

I just put about 3 solid hours + 2 from this afternoon. I finally decided to start the assassinations and completed the first, and am now in Acre.

I definitely am enjoying it. There are flaws that can't be denied, I can tell the repetition is going to get boring as the game goes on, there is not going to be much variety in terms of the leadup to kills, however, I can tell I am going to have a lot of fun planning the kills and replay is there for trying them again.

It's got some genius to it. The control scheme is AWESOME. Once you get it down (5 minute learning curve) its almost second nature.

The biggest flaw to me as of now is still that damn voice actor for Altair. He just doesnt fit with the great voice acting that is present. The lack of music is a bit eh as well.

I'd say a solid 8 right now. Depending on how it plays out I could see it going to a 9 or down to as low as 6-7 though.

You know what the game is like to me? It's like the Control's team and the Art (and all its aspects) and the sound team go together and made this game great, they worked really hard and made the TRIPLE A title they wanted to, made it the game of the year.

Then the Quest team and HUD team came in late laughing not taking it serious and slapped together some side quests and hud. "Hmmm, how can we tell what Atliar is looking at? I know, why dont we make everything glow really brightly?" "Great idea! And lets just make a side quest where you have to save a peasant repeatedly. Nothing else. Just saving Peasants." "GENIOUS!"

They really couldnt think of any other side quests to help peasants? Why not a quest where you have to distract the guards (either by killing them, fighting them, or making them run away) while they try to steal something from behind them. Or help a group of civilians start a revolt against another group of guards. Or help some civilians fight another group of civilians. Or a civilian asks for his money back so you have to go interrogate someone. Or a civilian needs you to tell some news to another civilian across the city without the guards knowing.

They could really only think of Saving a Civilian from 3 guards for no random reason?

[archibishopthedoge]

The voice acting is still annoying, its kinda like Kevin Costner's Robin Hood in a sense, a bunch of actors of a certain nationality (aside from Christian Slater and the chick, but throw them out) and Zack Morris as the lead guy.

Im on the 4th assasination, and the repetition is starting to grate a little as well. I fear the replay value will be low on this one.

[Surferflames]

Well I think I've put in enough time with it to be happy with my purchase. Sure there are the little repetative side-quests that don't really have substance, but the combat is just really fun. It's definately a collection-fan's game, with all those damn flags.

I really don't get how people can find the controls complicated. I love how simple free running is.

[archibishopthedoge]

The controls are arguably one of the best things about the game, and its far more than sidequests that are repetitive ALL the investigations are repetitive, its the same thing every kill --- choose 2-3 of informer, pickpocket, eavesdrop, interrogate etc.

and Im sick of saving citizens but I do it to shut up the repetitive banter "Help me!!" "Die Thief!"

The combat is fun though, its very realistic swordplay but there is a lot of repetition with every kill, it also seems to lack a challenge, all of my deaths have been falls lol.

I am not getting tired of leaps of faith or climbing though.

[IOnceWasLegend]

Loving the game so far, but is anyone else annoyed by the small text?

[whoknows]

Yeah, I really like the controls myself. Easy to use once you get used to them and they work very very well.

[DarkNessBear]

The voice acting is still annoying, its kinda like Kevin Costner's Robin Hood in a sense, a bunch of actors of a certain nationality (aside from Christian Slater and the chick, but throw them out) and Zack Morris as the lead guy.

Im on the 4th assasination, and the repetition is starting to grate a little as well. I fear the replay value will be low on this one.

I thought Desmonds voice isn't to bad.

But you're right, Altair sounds really crappy. Sam Fisher had a sweet voice, why can't Altair?!

[archibishopthedoge]

I thought Desmonds voice isn't to bad.

But you're right, Altair sounds really crappy. Sam Fisher had a sweet voice, why can't Altair?!

The voice fits with Desmond, but you'd think that an ancestor of his wouldnt sound like he graduated from Bayside High especially with the damn story taking place in the middle east :lol:

Im not hating on the game -- Im enjoying it, but there are aspects of the game that the negative reviewers got right, namely the repetition and Altairs voice acting

[whoknows]

I don't have a problem with his voice acting...guess I've just heard worse.

Actually I played Umbrella Chronicles before starting AC so maybe that's why his voice seems fine with me :lol:

[crashnburn69]

about his voice: well hes a regular white guy in a VR simulator so its kinda ok that he sounds like an american.

edit: sorry about that. completely slipped my mind.

[CrimsonPaw]

crashnburn69, please use spoiler tags. Also, he's a bit more, if you remember at the beginning he said that he is no longer an assassin, just a regular bartender.

[devildr1ver]

This is a bit off topic concerning what you guys are talking about....but
check this:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/130188.html

That special edition of assassins creed, is that even available in the U.S.?

Cause i've seen the one with the ridiculous 3 inch figure + tin case which is pretty lame not worth the extra $15 includes tax.

[SteveMcQ]

blah, blah, blahWay to go douchebag.

[DarkNessBear]

This is a bit off topic concerning what you guys are talking about....but
check this:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/130188.html

That special edition of assassins creed, is that even available in the U.S.?

Cause i've seen the one with the ridiculous 3 inch figure + tin case which is pretty lame not worth the extra $15 includes tax.

It was worth it to me....

:cry:

[DarkNessBear]

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=821766

I don't understand how people are giving the games graphic score lower than a 9-10.

Uhm... were they playing on a black and white TV that is 5 inches big?

Seriously. This is the best ANIMATED and GRAPHICAL game i've ever played...

Here is my review (as of 5-7 hrs into the game):

STORY: 10
GRAPHICS: 10
SOUND: 8.5 (sometimes dialouge is repeated to many times)
VARIETY: 7
CONTROLS: 9
DNB's FEELING LIKE A BADASS: 12
_________
OVERALL: 9.4

About my Feeling Like a BADASS rating:
My feeling like a badass rating is important to me, I enjoy feeling like a bad ass and looking awesome in my games.

This includes animations mostly. How cool do you look doing your moves and then walking away after performing those moves. AC is so badass because it lets you kill then walk away cool.

Ex:

BadAss Level Examples:
Ninja Gaiden: 10
MGS: 8
Splinter Cell: 9
Bioshock: 4
DMC: 9
SotC: 8
God of War: 9.5
Halo 3: 4
Crackdown: 8
The Darkness: 9
RS:vegas: 8
Mario Galaxy: 2
Cooking Mama: 1

[whoknows]

The only part I don't like is playing as the other character. It's boring and those parts take you out of the fun.

[Sofa King Kool]

Ok, I'm a few hours in, I haven't even gotten to the first city yet because I've spent most of that time screwing around in the kingdom. I've finally gotten the hang of the game though.

Templars = pain in the ass. I'll just be walking and all of a sudden from behind some corner a Templar will just start charging at me, followed by me dying.

[Trakan]

Ok, I'm a few hours in, I haven't even gotten to the first city yet because I've spent most of that time screwing around in the kingdom. I've finally gotten the hang of the game though.

Templars = pain in the ass. I'll just be walking and all of a sudden from behind some corner a Templar will just start charging at me, followed by me dying.
Once you get the counter move back, templars are pushovers.

[Sofa King Kool]

I finally went to the first city. I had no idea this game would be so massive.

Once you get the counter move back, templars are pushovers.

Thank god, because right now being spotted by one usually results in an abrupt death.

[archibishopthedoge]

Im also 5-7 hours in, heres my statistical review thus far, on kill #5

STORY: 8

GRAPHICS: 9.5 overall, 10 for draw distances and detail, I don't like the graphics after a kill though. Same thing could've been accomplished with sepia or something similar rather than the isolation technique they used. Altairs animations are fantastic.

SOUND: 6.5, the same things being said over and over start to get annoying after a while, story dialogue is great (aside from Altairs voice), lack of music in dramatic parts is noticably missing and would've added to some of the suspense. The goofy sound (sounds almost like the save/go to sleep tone in FFVII) after/just before a leap of faith does not fit in this game. Effects (swords etc) are very good.

VARIETY: 6.5, the lead up to kills is virtually the same, same sort of missions/investigations, same sort of sidequests in every city. Its a bit surprising in retrospect they've gone this route, whereas similar games in worlds this size had a lot of variety in missions for the most part. I don't see how/why it would've been hard to add more variety in investigations. There is variety in how you can approach your assasinations though, which does help this. You can go brute, or you can use stealth and theres many approach options.

CONTROLS: 10, different but very intuitive and actually add to the game alot. Combat is a lot of fun, and I find myself getting into fights just for the sake of it at times.

[greyzieoriental]

to the ppl who beat this game already how long is it , an estimate?

[skid]

IGN said about fifteen hours, I believe.

[Callandor]

Argh, this makes the wait from Gamefly so difficult...

[infamyRISE]

how the hell do i get throwing knives?

I've unlocked the small blade and can throw them in the vr loading screens, but i can't find any in game.

[Agrippan]

About 5 hours in and loving the game so far. I can see it becoming repetitive later, but the world as a whole is just breathtaking.

[archibishopthedoge]

how the hell do i get throwing knives?

I've unlocked the small blade and can throw them in the vr loading screens, but i can't find any in game.

you have to earn them back, I believe they're the next weapon you get after you get the small blade.

[eswat]

Anybody else find the UI design a bit unintutive?

I'm all for awesome looking menus, but Ubisoft's approach (especially for the Animus menu) just slows me down once the initial "OMFG THAT LOOKS SO COOL!" factor wears off.

[deadite76]

Argh, this makes the wait from Gamefly so difficult...

Try waiting for your 360 to get back from being repaired. Now that fucking sucks! ;) Can't wait to play this!

[Surferflames]

Anybody else find the UI design a bit unintutive?

I'm all for awesome looking menus, but Ubisoft's approach (especially for the Animus menu) just slows me down once the initial "OMFG THAT LOOKS SO COOL!" factor wears off.

you can turn each piece of UI off in the menu if you like.

[pbates86]

So is this game better as a rental??

[thrustbucket]

So is this game better as a rental??

It all depends on what your own personal criteria for rental vs buy is.

The only reason I can think of that this game would be a rental is that it probably has very low replayability. However, it is a fantastic game that needs to be played. And it's got at least 10-15 hours of game play in there.

If you think you can rent it and finish it without having to rent it twice, then rent it.

[Rei no Otaku]

I'm enjoying this game a lot more than I thought I would. I just finished the second assassination. At least I think it's the second. It was that doctor guy. The first time I messed up because those retard guys kept pushing me >.<

[SteveMcQ]

Come on, Ubi. Drop this game soon. Freakin' Fry's didn't have any left in stock.

[Rei no Otaku]

I wonder if this game will drop like their others. It sold a lot better than I thought it would. We got 96 copies for the 360 (I forget how many for PS3, a little less) at work, we sold out for both consoles within a couple hours.

[whoknows]

Killed Talal. Was fun chasing him. I'm really liking this game, I'm just dreading the next point when they'll take you out of the fun to play as the other guy

Still, awesome game. Crowds are cool since they comment when you do stupid things...or anything really. Everytime a beggar comes up and harasses me I feel the need to kill them. :-P

[thrustbucket]

Killed Talal. Was fun chasing him. I'm really liking this game, I'm just dreading the next point when they'll take you out of the fun to play as the other guy



I really don't mind that part of the game at all. I'm finding the storylines very interesting. The main game is repetitive enough that I actually found myself looking forward to the next "break" last night after killing Talal. I wanted to get more of the scoop of what was going on. Which was a rather long discussion with Lucy that was long but interesting.

[Ryukahn]

Not reading any of the posts from yesterday just yet since I don't want to see any accidental spoilers, but my god is this game amazing. No idea what Hil at IGN was smoking to determine this was one of the biggest disappointments ever, or what some of these other sites are playing to give it low scores. SOOO glad I'm not a blind sheep to gaming reviews, as I'd have never played this if that was the case.

[thrustbucket]

Not reading any of the posts from yesterday just yet since I don't want to see any accidental spoilers, but my god is this game amazing. No idea what Hil at IGN was smoking to determine this was one of the biggest disappointments ever, or what some of these other sites are playing to give it low scores. SOOO glad I'm not a blind sheep to gaming reviews, as I'd have never played this if that was the case.

qft

[DarkNessBear]

Not reading any of the posts from yesterday just yet since I don't want to see any accidental spoilers, but my god is this game amazing. No idea what Hil at IGN was smoking to determine this was one of the biggest disappointments ever, or what some of these other sites are playing to give it low scores. SOOO glad I'm not a blind sheep to gaming reviews, as I'd have never played this if that was the case.

Yea, its totally awesome I am on my 6th(?) I believe target and it's so friggen awesome.

Around the 3rd I sort of lost a little interest but then I gained all back after the 4th and 5th. I can't believe this game got 7's... ha...
:bouncy:
And I realised that there is actual variety down the line to figuring out what your target is about.

[Mr Durand Pierre]

I'm thinking of renting this game tonight (I had it pre-ordered, but reviews have persuaded me to try before buying), but Mass Effect comes out Tues. Will I have time to beat this before Mass Effect without feeling rushed?

[IOnceWasLegend]

I'm thinking of renting this game tonight (I had it pre-ordered, but reviews have persuaded me to try before buying), but Mass Effect comes out Tues. Will I have time to beat this before Mass Effect without feeling rushed?

Gabe from Penny Arcade put it best when he said it's a game you really want to play at your own pace and not rush it. Granted, it may not be your playstyle (I rarely play slow, stealthier games and such), but if you don't mind trying something new, it'll be good. I personally wouldn't want to play it while chomping at the bit for another game, but I tend to take games more slowly and play parts I screwed up/want to do better again.

[Mr Durand Pierre]

Gabe from Penny Arcade put it best when he said it's a game you really want to play at your own pace and not rush it. Granted, it may not be your playstyle (I rarely play slow, stealthier games and such), but if you don't mind trying something new, it'll be good. I personally wouldn't want to play it while chomping at the bit for another game, but I tend to take games more slowly and play parts I screwed up/want to do better again.

Yeah, I read the Penny Arcade article. I figure I can play it for 4-5 hours over the next 4 days, so I'll put in 16-20 hours before Mass Effect comes out. Personally, I do like to take my time with games, but in the case of Assassin's Creed the primary complain people have with the game is repitition, so I don't think I'll be dying to complete every eavesdropping quest and such. I would wait to rent the game except I'm worried if I don't rent it tonight (Hollywood Video already has it on hold for me), it may be hard to track down later as it will near constantly be checked out for awhile.

Oh, and can anyone tell me if you can go back and play the sub-quests after you beat the main game? Because I'll probably rush through the main quest, but then go back later (if I have time) to check out what I missed. Is AC a game you can do that with?

[DarkNessBear]

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[NOXER]

wow lol I don't know what to say about that one...:-#

[IOnceWasLegend]

Yeah; saw that last night...I agree with the point they're trying to make, but they could've been a bit less...THAT...about it. Would've been a bit easier to take them seriously.

[archibishopthedoge]

I'd say if you're at all on fence in regards to buy vs rent, unless you can get a steal of a deal, rent it first. I'm not regretting the purchase, but as its been said, for a lot of people (me included) replay value is low. I will probably shelve it or trade it and then re-buy it cheap or rent it if a sequel comes.

Im on the 7th kill now. It's still A LOT of repetition investigation wise (I don't see how someone else in this thread says it gets varied after a while, it doesnt, its still the same things do in an investigation) and now Im having fun plowing guards and punching beggars in the face. The actual kills though are crazy fun, and I usually end up just having to brute guys. My favorite investigation bit are Informers :D I am enjoying putting the time in, but the street dialogue gets really old. Altairs voice hasnt grown on me, but Im used to it now so its an afterthought.

This game definitely does not have high replay value for me. I'm not an achievement whore really so collecting the damn flags won't bring me back in, although I am picking one up and going out of my way to get them when I see them. I think 7-8 is a fair score, considering what could've been, and in terms of what it is I'd say its a solid 8, but not a 9 or 10. COD4 is still my GOY, and I'd put Assassins 3rd right now after Mass Effect, but ahead of Halo. I've had Mass Effect since Kmart put it onsale, and one positive to Assassins that Ive noticed is I havent played anythign else since getting Assassins.

They up the difficulty a tad by taking away automatic markers for investigations in the later kills, they dont automatically show even after a high spot so sometimes it takes some wandering to find the places the bureau tells you to go, but if you head in the direction they say, you'll find something eventually. You also have to do more investigations per kill as you get further along. It's a bit helpful, but Im at the point where I want to be done with the investigations and get to the kills as thats the best part.

[IOnceWasLegend]

Need some help:

I'm currently on the fourth assassination, the second one to take place in Jerusalem, and I'm stuck. I've climbed all the viewpoints in the city, but nothing's shown up, and I haven't been able to find anything walking around where he told me to.

Call me mindless, but I hate it when games do this.

[$hady]

LOL silly cartoon I saw that Jade chick on Attack of the Show last week and I was like DAMN whatever she selling i'm buyin.... So yea I picked up Assassins Creed yesterday.... Picked it up half price thanks to Gamerush credit. Where do I sign up for the BJ? :D

[archibishopthedoge]

Need some help:

I'm currently on the fourth assassination, the second one to take place in Jerusalem, and I'm stuck. I've climbed all the viewpoints in the city, but nothing's shown up, and I haven't been able to find anything walking around where he told me to.

Call me mindless, but I hate it when games do this.

I just mentioned this in my spoiler just above yours.

You need to listen to the bureau guy, he tells you which direction to go and then when you get to that area, look for a high spot. Sometimes you'll get lucky and literally run into a investigation piece (I ran into two pickpocketing missions). You get only about one marker per high point now and sometimes you'll get none.

[DarkNessBear]

Guys, watch the new 1upshow. The reviewer from EGM and 1up are talking about AC with two other guys.

The two guys that didnt review said it was a pretty good game and it has some flaws but its whole package was really well done.

The Two reviewers had nothing nice to say all Crispin said was, "The game sucked. I hope they dont make a 2nd cause I dont want to play it" ...

Wait to put a reviewer on a game he hates... its like putting me on a Dragon Ball Z game, I hate dragon ball z so im gonna say the game sucked.

[Mirow]

Guys, watch the new 1upshow. The reviewer from EGM and 1up are talking about AC with two other guys.

The two guys that didnt review said it was a pretty good game and it has some flaws but its whole package was really well done.

The Two reviewers had nothing nice to say all Crispin said was, "The game sucked. I hope they dont make a 2nd cause I dont want to play it" ...

Wait to put a reviewer on a game he hates... its like putting me on a Dragon Ball Z game, I hate dragon ball z so im gonna say the game sucked.

I don't see what's so bad about people with different views on a game. At least they had both sides present.

[archibishopthedoge]

If anything, I am more excited for a sequel than I was to play this first one. While I do think the negative reviews have merit and made some legit points about the definite negative aspects of the game (even if entirely hard handed in a lot of cases) a sequel will only give Ubisoft the chance to make this series shine even brighter, hell the first Splinter Cell isnt a patch on the sequels. Games are the only medium where most times the sequels outshine the first one.

I would love to see them expand on this and bring the franchise to other times and places, the futuristic aspect was genius in this regard. While a lot of people (myself included) were a bit disappointed by this aspect it opens the door for them to take the franchise anywhere, even with the Templar undertones.

[LinkinPrime]

Haven't gotten too deep in the game yet but I'm loving it. Just got my mission to assassinate 9 people. Question...while randomly walking around why do certain people glow?

[archibishopthedoge]

Haven't gotten too deep in the game yet but I'm loving it. Just got my mission to assassinate 9 people. Question...while randomly walking around why do certain people glow?

you obviously didnt pay attention during the animus tutorial ;)

[eswat]

Probably a stupid question: How do you replenish your throwing knives?

[NOXER]

pickpocket thugs/thieves or kill them.

[creeeaature]

It's the guys with little bags on their waists. You can also go back to the Assassin's Bureau to refill them.

[thrustbucket]

Haven't gotten too deep in the game yet but I'm loving it. Just got my mission to assassinate 9 people. Question...while randomly walking around why do certain people glow?

Usually they glow if they are people you can lock onto. If you press Y you can see everyone glow different colors, to show their "intentions". Red means enemies, yellow means they are your target. Blue means passive - I forget others off the top of my head.

[Surferflames]

Guys, watch the new 1upshow. The reviewer from EGM and 1up are talking about AC with two other guys.

The two guys that didnt review said it was a pretty good game and it has some flaws but its whole package was really well done.

The Two reviewers had nothing nice to say all Crispin said was, "The game sucked. I hope they dont make a 2nd cause I dont want to play it" ...

Wait to put a reviewer on a game he hates... its like putting me on a Dragon Ball Z game, I hate dragon ball z so im gonna say the game sucked.
I thought it was funny how the Mass Effect reviewers has almost as much bad stuff to say, yet it got a considerably better score.

My only complaint about AC is the repetition, but I've already gotten more enjoyment out of it than I did bioshock, which the games media had a hard on for, all 8 hours of it.

[archibishopthedoge]

yea even though its repetitious Im really enjoying it

Im now on the last kill, and Im literally killing any guard I see lol

The story is coming together well too, they really scored on the story.

[SpikeSpiegel]

Guys, watch the new 1upshow. The reviewer from EGM and 1up are talking about AC with two other guys.

The two guys that didnt review said it was a pretty good game and it has some flaws but its whole package was really well done.

The Two reviewers had nothing nice to say all Crispin said was, "The game sucked. I hope they dont make a 2nd cause I dont want to play it" ...

Wait to put a reviewer on a game he hates... its like putting me on a Dragon Ball Z game, I hate dragon ball z so im gonna say the game sucked.

That's a really ridiculous thing to say. I mean the game has a few flaws and some might like the game less than others for them but to act like the game wasn't enjoyable in the least shows a completely lack of appreciation for how tremendous the game is even with some issues.

[lordwow]

I picked this up today, I was going to wait, but I figured what the heck, it put me over the $20 threshold for RewardZone points.

[Mr Durand Pierre]

I thought it was funny how the Mass Effect reviewers has almost as much bad stuff to say, yet it got a considerably better score.

My only complaint about AC is the repetition, but I've already gotten more enjoyment out of it than I did bioshock, which the games media had a hard on for, all 8 hours of it.

How do you know they gave Mass Effect a higher score? Thier review isn't up yet (or at least I can't find it).

[Mr Durand Pierre]

Guys, watch the new 1upshow. The reviewer from EGM and 1up are talking about AC with two other guys.

The two guys that didnt review said it was a pretty good game and it has some flaws but its whole package was really well done.

The Two reviewers had nothing nice to say all Crispin said was, "The game sucked. I hope they dont make a 2nd cause I dont want to play it" ...

Wait to put a reviewer on a game he hates... its like putting me on a Dragon Ball Z game, I hate dragon ball z so im gonna say the game sucked.
Wait, so critics should only review things they like? By that standard everything would always recieve a positive review. I don't think this Crispin character went into Assassin's Creed wanting to hate it. It seemed rather the opposite where he had high expectations and they fell short of it. A fair point, nonetheless.

I'm actually kind of glad this game has been getting dissapointing reviews. See, this was one of my most anticipated games of the year, so if I were a critic and got to play the game before any reviews started coming out, I too would have been dissapointed and probably scored it even lower due to how far it fell short of my expectations. But after reading all these reviews my expectations dropped signifacantly and now I'm actually pleasantly surprised how much I'm liking the game. Granted I am only about 3 hours in (I've just cokpleted my first assassination and all sub-quests, save rescuing the citizens). I can see why critics railed against it; the game design is rather tired with bland missions filling up most of the game, but running around the city is so fun that I don't really mind. I mean a lot of critics complained about how lame the eavesdropping missions are; you just sit on a bench and press the "listen" button. But I'd prefer that to long, drawn out missions with poor checkpointing. I mean these so-called "missions" are more or less just an excuse to make you run around town, which thankfully, happens to be a lot of fun. So yeah, there's a ton of wasted potential in this game, but what is there is really good and deffinitely worth a rental if nothing else.

[lordwow]

I too just finished the first assassination. The quests are a bit repetitive, especially in a long play session, but it's kinda like Spider-Man 2. There aren't too many of them, and there's not a lot to do in each one (they're quick), plus half the fun is getting there.

That being said, both the "storyline" and the Free Running are among some of the funnest stuff in the game.

My girlfriend, a Middle Eastern studies major, really enjoys watching me play (in fact, she's playing right now, and she hardly ever plays games other than like Puzzle Quest), she says a lot of the architecture as well as the Arabic writing (she can read Arabic) is pretty accurate on everything, a lot of attention to detail.

One thing that got a laugh out of me is the "please don't be offended" opening screen. Well done.

[thrustbucket]

I'm too the point now where even though you need 2 or 3 clues to start a mission, I like to complete all of them.

[lordwow]

Doh, I missed the first conversation for the conversationalist achievement. That sucks.

[SpikeSpiegel]

Well I beat the game and if they can
*CAUTION* DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU HAVE YET TO COMPLETE THE GAME *CAUTION*
continue to balance two stories as they did in this one and do it fairly well, I don't really mind the twist. so after viewing the text on the wall and watching the credits then getting my 50 gamerpoints is that it? Nothing else to do?

[whoknows]

I'm too the point now where even though you need 2 or 3 clues to start a mission, I like to complete all of them.
I don't do all of them, but I do more than what's needed.

Running around and exploring is just fun.

[Surferflames]

I too just finished the first assassination. The quests are a bit repetitive, especially in a long play session, but it's kinda like Spider-Man 2. There aren't too many of them, and there's not a lot to do in each one (they're quick), plus half the fun is getting there.

That being said, both the "storyline" and the Free Running are among some of the funnest stuff in the game.

My girlfriend, a Middle Eastern studies major, really enjoys watching me play (in fact, she's playing right now, and she hardly ever plays games other than like Puzzle Quest), she says a lot of the architecture as well as the Arabic writing (she can read Arabic) is pretty accurate on everything, a lot of attention to detail.

One thing that got a laugh out of me is the "please don't be offended" opening screen. Well done.

That screen made me chuckle too, and I know they'd get complaints without it.

I also love how they explain that the Animus translates some things into modern dialogue as to not confuse the user.

[dpadilla4]

Well I beat the game and if they can
*CAUTION* DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU HAVE YET TO COMPLETE THE GAME *CAUTION*
continue to balance two stories as they did in this one and do it fairly well, I don't really mind the twist. so after viewing the text on the wall and watching the credits then getting my 50 gamerpoints is that it? Nothing else to do?

how long di it take u to beat the game

[SpikeSpiegel]

how long di it take u to beat the game Like 16 hours, I played it almost non-stop though. I did like maybe half the rescue misisons and only killed templars and picked up flags when I saw them.

[Mr Durand Pierre]

Wow, Tom from Eurogamer was right. I played this last night for a few hours and absolutely loved it, so I was all excited to play it some more today after work, but damn, it really took a dive in quality even though it's still the exact same thing (or perhaps because of this). I mean I knew the game was going to be repetitive, but I didn't really mind as it seemed like a game that was so fun that I wouldn't mind the repetition, but somehow it did manage to get real old real quick. I'm still going to beat it and I am enjoying it alright granted I only do the minimal amount of missions necessary, but somehow the desire to complete every investigation died out all of a sudden.

[mundione]

i've played 3 hours of it so far and granted it's been fun for that amount of time, but i just hope i don't regret buying it after putting some more time into it

[creeeaature]

Just beat the game and I loved the twist at the end. Was definately bizzare, but I really enjoyed it. I absolutely cannot wait for sequels now... the possibilities... :drool:

[Bazz]

The game is awesome. It has been the only game in a while to grasp me in to their world and have me play for hours straight I haven't been up this late playing a game in a while and I am happy about it. One of my top picks this year is Assassins Creed and I don't understand how any reviewers gave it in the 7's or even low 8's it just doesn't deserve it. I did notice the frame rate issues, but they didn't really destroy me in anyway. I am defiantly suggesting this game to anyone who wants an original non fps game since it has been a while. Also I have Cod4 I know you can't compare, but it really isn't good at all to me and if your thinking about what you should get if your stuck between the two Cod4 doesn't even deserve a chance.

[archibishopthedoge]

The game is awesome. It has been the only game in a while to grasp me in to their world and have me play for hours straight I haven't been up this late playing a game in a while and I am happy about it. One of my top picks this year is Assassins Creed and I don't understand how any reviewers gave it in the 7's or even low 8's it just doesn't deserve it. I did notice the frame rate issues, but they didn't really destroy me in anyway. I am defiantly suggesting this game to anyone who wants an original non fps game since it has been a while. Also I have Cod4 I know you can't compare, but it really isn't good at all to me and if your thinking about what you should get if your stuck between the two Cod4 doesn't even deserve a chance.

Not all gamers like the repetition. IMO a 8 is completely deserved and the rating Im giving it as I head to the end (at the 8th kill). That's not a bad rating. I agree with a lot of the negative reviewers' points but I also agree with some of the praise.

I like it a lot, but to say COD4 doesnt even compare is folly, but to each their own. I have felt nothing like I did in this game like I did playing All Ghillied Up/One Shot One Kill, and the fact that COD4 is probably the best MP game on Live EVER, that's a pretty bold statement. If I was going to suggest, rent Creed, buy COD4 its not even an argument, especially if you enjoy multi. You sound biased against FPS to begin with. Not flaming btw. I feel the same way at times, but COD4 is fantastic. Creed is just good.

I like Creed, and am enjoying it, but the repetition in investigations and chatter in the streets brings it down a notch or two. They really dropped the ball on the investigations end. It would not have taken much to add more variety on that angle.

[SpikeSpiegel]

*CHECK THIS OUT IF AND ONLY IF YOU BEAT THE GAME!*

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=175552&site=xbw

So it looks like the next game won't even touch on Altair, well maybe a bit.

[archibishopthedoge]

Just finished the game...

While I'm still left feeling that it lacked variety in certain areas, the story MORE than made up for it. I don't think replay value is that high, but the ending was perfect all considering. My only other gripe is that I wish they included skill settings, because I found it a bit easy.

I knew that Mualim was bad, first time I saw him I thought "Saruman" :lol:

The ending was cryptic as hell and until Lucy was revealed as a spy, I thought that Kristen Bell was rather useless otherwise.

The fact that there can be and most likely will be sequels is great, the depth of the story and the fact it WAS "futuristic" in aspects opens the door to so many things and places they can go with the game and improve on the mistakes they made with this one.

Great Franchise in the making.


All in all I'm happy with the game. It has its shortcomings, but the depth of the story made up for it.

[Bazz]

Not all gamers like the repetition. IMO a 8 is completely deserved and the rating Im giving it as I head to the end (at the 8th kill). That's not a bad rating. I agree with a lot of the negative reviewers' points but I also agree with some of the praise.

I like it a lot, but to say COD4 doesnt even compare is folly, but to each their own. I have felt nothing like I did in this game like I did playing All Ghillied Up/One Shot One Kill, and the fact that COD4 is probably the best MP game on Live EVER, that's a pretty bold statement. If I was going to suggest, rent Creed, buy COD4 its not even an argument, especially if you enjoy multi. You sound biased against FPS to begin with. Not flaming btw. I feel the same way at times, but COD4 is fantastic. Creed is just good.

I like Creed, and am enjoying it, but the repetition in investigations and chatter in the streets brings it down a notch or two. They really dropped the ball on the investigations end. It would not have taken much to add more variety on that angle.I think I am just done with FPS to many of them just keep coming out and I was expecting cod4 campaign to be way better cause cod2 was just amazing to me.

[FeNoM91]

Ordered mine from GameStop this morning! w00t!

[DarkNessBear]

Just beat the game. LOVED IT!

To those that are skeptical about it. DONT listen to the shaqfuing shaq shaqfuing fuingshaqs of Reviewers. Just get this game, go in it with an open mind and follow the story and DONT rush it. I could tell how HORRIBLE the game is if you rush it, I was trying to rush at the end and it was so unfun and frusturating... So just relax and play it, and if you get anxious just take a break.

GOTY.

Although I hated the last 3 kills of the "REAL" 9 investigation parts. I WAS SO FUCKING PISSED. Because there was like 50 times more guards and they all caught you if you pumped into ANYONE... it was so frusturating doing the investigation missions. So I just plowed through it and only did the minimal stuff. Im gonna go back for the achievements.

I didn't get the Lucy Talking achievement... what gives?! And can pleaseeee someone tell me how to do the Jump From a Roof Top Assassination kill? I've seen it in videos, and I know you can do it... but I think I only did it once accidently to a peasant lol. Is it hard to pull off?


ALSO, OMG THE FINAL BOSS WAS SO EASY! HAHAHA! Anyone know the cheap tactic? Hidden Blade FTW.. LOL! I killed the final boss in ONE hit. They need to fix that... Hidden Blade is way way to powerful.

Buildings found submerged around Yonaguni predate any other known buildings in the world, so expect any Japanese ancestor tales to take place before Assassin's Creed 1.

Omg omg omg! Ninja Creed!? Oh please!!! =D =D

The story...was...fantastic.... I was a little confused but that interview helped me get some stuff. Omg, best story ever.... I love it... love it... 1up can suck a monkey dick for giving it a 7. A game with THIS amazing visuals, animation and STORY deserves no less than a 8.5-9.

I give the entire game a:
9.5

[DarkNessBear]

People say Jade was to much of the face for AC.

But, I think Jade = Cliffy B.

[whoknows]

People say Jade was to much of the face for AC.

But, I think Jade = Cliffy B.
Nah, Cliffy seems to be a douche, Jade at least seems to be likeable.

[Trakan]

ALSO, OMG THE FINAL BOSS WAS SO EASY! HAHAHA! Anyone know the cheap tactic? Hidden Blade FTW.. LOL! I killed the final boss in ONE hit. They need to fix that... Hidden Blade is way way to powerful.
None of the 9 people on your list to assassinate are 'bosses.' That's what I liked about the game. They were just high ranking, regular people. Towards the end some of the 'bosses' wouldn't let you hit them with your sword, they'd always counter it. You're supposed to counter their move and assassinate them when they're on the ground. It wasn't too easy.

[Mojimbo]

Without spoilers, is there much to the game after you finish the 9 assassinations(I'm on the 4th)? I just wanna see if I'm gauging my progress correctly.

For anyone wanting to maximize their achievements, you have to get on these two from the very beginning or you'll have to start a new game...

(Spoilers take place within 5 minutes of you starting the game)

You need to talk with Lucy after/before memory blocks. Basically, walk up to her when the doctor's not in the room(usually you're prompted to get some rest) and you can initiate a conversation. Eventually she'll tell you "Can't talk, gotta work" or "Get some rest" and that tells you that you're finished with that.

Also, complete all side-missions before killing your assassination targets. That means getting all view points, saving all citizens and completing all the investigations beyond the 2 minimum.

If you mess the second achievement up I think you can revisit your memory and do that part over on your current save but no such luck on the Lucy achievement.

[halfbent]

Do the kill count achievements track between sessions? So if I turn off my game will I still have X counter kills racked up?

Also, I seem to be a getting a lot of disc read errors going into/out of Acre - anyone have this issue? I'm completely fine IN the city, it's just the zoning issue.

[Calamityuponthee]

Can someone help me with the Blade in The Crowd achievement?

I've tried everything, stealth assassinations, overt, ect. Cannot get this for the life of me. Also, does the achievement pop up as soon as you do it, or later after you fast forward your memory?

[AvidWriter]

Nah, Cliffy seems to be a douche, Jade at least seems to be likeable.

Thats just the point. I feel they used her as eye candy to get people to pay attention to this game.

[Trakan]

Without spoilers, is there much to the game after you finish the 9 assassinations(I'm on the 4th)? I just wanna see if I'm gauging my progress correctly.

Not really. That's pretty much all of it unless you're going for the templars/flags.

Do the kill count achievements track between sessions? So if I turn off my game will I still have X counter kills racked up?

They track, yes.

Can someone help me with the Blade in The Crowd achievement?

Are you stealth assassinating [don't hold RT] the target from behind while being completely anonymous?

If so, that's weird, you should have got it.

[whoknows]

Thats just the point. I feel they used her as eye candy to get people to pay attention to this game.
I didn't know who she was until that comic :lol:

[Calamityuponthee]

Are you stealth assassinating [don't hold RT] the target from behind while being completely anonymous?

If so, that's weird, you should have got it.

Yes, but the indicator might have been yellow/red. (like, not flashing red) so I assume that's still anonymous?

I'm on the seventh one, you think I'll have another chance to do it? They seem to be getting harder to remain so quiet.

Also, another question if you can... The combo one, kill 50 or whatever using combos... is that just where you keep pressing X? Hoping it doesn't slay him in a single hit?

[Trakan]

Yes, but the indicator might have been yellow/red. (like, not flashing red) so I assume that's still anonymous?

I'm on the seventh one, you think I'll have another chance to do it? They seem to be getting harder to remain so quiet.

Also, another question if you can... The combo one, kill 50 or whatever using combos... is that just where you keep pressing X? Hoping it doesn't slay him in a single hit?
As long as the indicator is not flashing/beeping you should be alright. That's how I got it.

You probably won't have such a good chance on the later targets, but you can go back and replay the other missions. I did it on the doctor.

Combos are when you keep pressing X and it goes into the animation, yes. I think it might be glitched though, because it had felt like I had way more than 50 when it finally unlocked for me.

[Sofa King Kool]

Yes, but the indicator might have been yellow/red. (like, not flashing red) so I assume that's still anonymous?

I'm on the seventh one, you think I'll have another chance to do it? They seem to be getting harder to remain so quiet.


Yeah, just replay it and do it on the doctor. That's where I got it. Just make sure those crazy guys don't push you.

Those damn crazy guys have caused me into so much trouble...

[thrustbucket]

Am I missing something or can you not manually save your game, or revert to a previous saved game in this game? I wanted to retry a few assassinations but can't figure out how.

[LinkinPrime]

Optimus Prime makes a cameo in AC...well sort of.
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2149/dsc005951smallao1.jpg (http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/stevephoenix/optimus-prime-in-assassin-s-creed--54545.phtml)

[DarkNessBear]

Altair! Put the Templar Treasure in my chest!

[Callandor]

Please let this be in the mail when I get home... :pray:

[eswat]

Anybody else felt it was impossible to assassinate that Templar captain (forgot his name) the way it was demonstrated in that video walkthrough months back?

As for going back to other assassinations, you can replay the different memory blocks you've completed, through the Animus. But that's about it.

[Calamityuponthee]

Just beat it, got 815/1000 points. Not to shabby.

The game was great. Very refreshing change of pace. I'd personally rate it a 9.0, like gamespot did.

The repetition with side quests is my biggest, and basically only complaint. It was just stupid, same kinds of investigations.

[lordwow]

I'm just about at assassination #3, and I'm going through and completing everything except for the flags and templars (unless I run into them), and I don't really get bored with this unless I play like 3+ hours at a time. As long as I limit play session to an hour or two, I find it a lot of fun. I'd say I'd put it around a 9.0 as well, probably below for the moment, but depending on how good the ending/rest of game is it may move around.

[Callandor]

Having only putzed around for the first 2 hours or so, my initial impressions are mostly positive. Graphics are solid, gameplay isn't too bad (although I'm not that fond of the control setup so far), and most importantly, I like this Animus concept!

I'll just take my time over the next week or so, gradually working through the game, and see what I actually think.

[whoknows]

Ugh, I've been walking around Jerusalem forever and can't find any investigations to do, so I went to Acre and can't find any there. I miss the markers on the map :cry:

[Calamityuponthee]

Ugh, I've been walking around Jerusalem forever and can't find any investigations to do, so I went to Acre and can't find any there. I miss the markers on the map :cry:

Hopefully some DLC comes along, with more assassinations and content.

[thrustbucket]

A few more observations:

-Why do you hear so many people speaking french, german, and arabic if the animus is suppose to translate it for you?

-Why do they let you turn off all the useful hud stuff but you can't turn off the damn giant helper graphics that pop on randomly all the time?

-I hate the save system. I can't load a previous save to try another way to assassinate. I can't save when I want. I have to wait for a certain even to autosave for me, which usually means I have to watch a bunch of dialog again after reloading a session.

[King]

Beat the game earlier this evening, enjoyed every minute of it. I love how deep it's gotten, can't wait for the sequel.

[Agrippan]

A few more observations:

-Why do you hear so many people speaking french, german, and arabic if the animus is suppose to translate it for you?


Perhaps you're only supposed to understand the same languages as Altair?

[thrustbucket]

Perhaps you're only supposed to understand the same languages as Altair?

Which should be Arabic..... But who knows.

[whoknows]

So what should I do if I can't find any investigations to do and I've been walking around and searching for awhile now?

[strikeratt]

I screwed up on a mission ... not going to mention which one for spoiler reasons. Anyways I went to assasinate the main target in one mission and it wouldn't let me jump down on him like I could have :( All in all I took a hit and before I realized it I lunged at him and killed my target.

What I'm trying to get at is I'm going for the full DNA bar achievement. Can I go back and kill the target and still get this achievenment?

[Calamityuponthee]

I screwed up on a mission ... not going to mention which one for spoiler reasons. Anyways I went to assasinate the main target in one mission and it wouldn't let me jump down on him like I could have :( All in all I took a hit and before I realized it I lunged at him and killed my target.

What I'm trying to get at is I'm going for the full DNA bar achievement. Can I go back and kill the target and still get this achievenment?

It might be bugged.. I was not at full DNA a few times, and I still got the achievement.

This games achievements are a bit whack, 2 of them didn't work until I tried a shitload of times (Blade in the Crowd and Eagle Dive).

Then the DNA one works when I totally didn't plan it. YMMV.

[creeeaature]

So what should I do if I can't find any investigations to do and I've been walking around and searching for awhile now?

You have to go find lookout spots on your own now. Just look for tall buildings with eagles on top, go up, synchronize and icons will begin to pop up again. There will only be 1 or 2 icons popping up per synch now though.

[whoknows]

I've done every viewpoint but nothing came up. I just found a pickpocket mission by accident, there was no mark on the map at all.

[strikeratt]

It might be bugged.. I was not at full DNA a few times, and I still got the achievement.

This games achievements are a bit whack, 2 of them didn't work until I tried a shitload of times (Blade in the Crowd and Eagle Dive).

Then the DNA one works when I totally didn't plan it. YMMV.

Thank you ... good to know and hope it happens :D