Assassin's Creed - Gen. Discussion & Info

[joe2187]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q07tonhZre0&eurl=http://kotaku.com/341960/the-best-and-worst-of-assassins-creed

[Kendal]

Please tell me you killed him with the arm blade? I had a guy humpng the air similar to that. I killed his ass. I actually think I got an acheivement for it. I think it was my 50 guard kill with the arm blade thingie.

I just finally finished the game. Wow. What a let down in many ways. I am totally hooked for the next one. I kind of wish I would have rented it, but I knew I wouldn't finish it if I did. Oh well, I like the game, the ending just total blue balls. Time to move on with Mass Effect and some other games.

[VanillaGorilla]

This game stinks more than the south end of a north bound mule.

[pittpizza]

This game stinks more than the south end of a north bound mule.

Ewwwww.....thats its butt!

I disagree but whatever. Ending was so so at best.

Joe, you must have invested alot of skill points in "Charm" to get the guard to do that!

[Javery]

I played some more - I'm not sure what I'm doing but I think I'm having fun.

[Javery]

So what am I supposed to be doing? I'm in the poor section of Damascus (I just started playing) and I found all the lookouts (9/9) and I saved all of the citizens (12/12) - there's one more icon on my map (an Informer's Target). Is there anything else I'm supposed to do (other than the flags which are a ridiculous pursuit)?

[SteveMcQ]

So what am I supposed to be doing? I'm in the poor section of Damascus (I just started playing) and I found all the lookouts (9/9) and I saved all of the citizens (12/12) - there's one more icon on my map (an Informer's Target). Is there anything else I'm supposed to do (other than the flags which are a ridiculous pursuit)?I'm not certain if the actual missions relating to the assassination open up after doing this, but I suggest you do this after having done all those other missions. Go to the Assassin's Bureau. It should be marked by that insignia on your map. Talk to the guy there and he should tell you where you might find more info on your target.

There's typically about 6 options for you to do, of which you have to do at least 2 to open up the actual assassination attempt. The lookouts are merely to get rid of the "fog" on the map so you can easily see where everything is, while the saving the citizens goal is an optional sidequest. If you noticed, everytime you save one, you either get vigilantes at the location or scholars. The former will help you in a chase by holding up guards while the latter will help you get into well-guarded places.

[pittpizza]

Jav, a little tip, just know that you can do the lookout scans, and save the citizens and they will be done forever, but the investigations (if you plan on doing them all) need to be done in one visit to the city.

InvestigationsLpickpocket, evesdropping, timed flag gatherign, taking out templars, interrogations etc..

Saving citizens and scanning lookouts are unique in that once done, they stay done, wheras with investigations, you have to do all of em in one trip to the city cuz if you don't and you leave, you must do all of them on your re-visit.

[zerowing]

So wait I have to play the game again when I go flag hunting? I already missed the Lucy achievement but I don't think I have it in me to try to play this game again.

[SteveMcQ]

Can you get that Lucy achievement at any time or do you have to talk to her everytime you're given a break. I know you can get out of the Animus at anytime.

[n3ver]

I really disliked the gameplay. I was looking forward to flinging myself around the rooftops until I discovered that there was almost nil skill involved--face a direction, hold two buttons, watch Altair do shit.

[pittpizza]

Just be sure to talk to lucy every break, don't get out of the animus to do it as its unnecessary, but in the scripted story parts you should be sure to chat her up.

And Never, you're the first person I've ever heard to complain that the climbing mechanics were too easy.

[Javery]

Jav, a little tip, just know that you can do the lookout scans, and save the citizens and they will be done forever, but the investigations (if you plan on doing them all) need to be done in one visit to the city.

InvestigationsLpickpocket, evesdropping, timed flag gatherign, taking out templars, interrogations etc..

Saving citizens and scanning lookouts are unique in that once done, they stay done, wheras with investigations, you have to do all of em in one trip to the city cuz if you don't and you leave, you must do all of them on your re-visit.

Can I stop playing (as long as I don't leave town)? Last night I did a bunch of the missions in Acre (poor) - I found all the towers, saved all the citizens and collected all the flags. This stuff will save. I also did a few other things like pickpocketed a guy, went on some flag chasing minigame, assassinated a dude for an informant, etc. Do I have to do all of those things again? God I hope not.

This game is HUGE if you decide to do everything. I was in this one section of town for about two and a half hours last night and I didn't even get to the real assassination part. I'm going for achievements with this game too even though I blew the Lucy one already because I didn't know about it until it was too late. I probably won't get all the flags in the kingdom but I can see myself going for the 33-34 in each part of each town... I'm having fun just roaming around town.

[pittpizza]

Oh yeah just strolling around town was one of the funnest things to do in this game IMO.

Lemme try to express myself more clearly about what will save when you leave town what won't: Some things, finding flags (not where you have to find 20 in 3:00 minutes but I mean the flags that are scattered across the whole game), saving citizens, and scannign lookouts will be permanenty accomplished when you do them once.

Then there are these other types of activities labeled "investigations." These activities are pickpocketing, interrogating, mini assassinatinos (three guys are lookin for me, go kill em'), timed flag gatherings. These will give you tips and tricks about your target and must ALL be done in one visit to the city, (not one sitting, you can save and shut off your console) but they must all be done in one trip to the city if you want to fill in every memory bar.

Basically you shoudl be sure to do every available assignment before you carry out the assassination. This way you won't have to go back and re-do all the investigatins (since you must have done them all in one visit ot hte city).

It was a pain inteh ass for me because for the first two assassinations, i just did the bare minimum and then carried out the hit. Well it turned out when I went back to that memory block to complete the remaining investgations, it negated all the investagions (but not scans or saved citzens) and I had to do alot of em again.

Hope this helps.

[ICEPICC]

I just got this on Saturday and I played through the training session in the beginning - I just wanted to check it out. It seems like I'll have to spend some time with it to get used to the controls but I have WAY too many other games to play before I even try...

Yea, the controlls need getting use to.

Its a bit of a button masher when you get into a big battle. The game is alot of fun and there's lots to do too.

I'm enjoying walking through the promise land during the 1300's.

The graphics are awesome.

[sp00ge]

Yea, the controlls need getting use to.

Its a bit of a button masher when you get into a big battle. The game is alot of fun and there's lots to do too.

I'm enjoying walking through the promise land during the 1300's.

The graphics are awesome.
I have to disagree with the button mashing. In big battles, with skillful presses you can cut down 5-6 guards in almost quick succession.

[Spades22]

From the first 2 levels I was able to play I thought the game was awesome. Countering was really fun and made the battles super fast once I got it back. I completed every mission and climbed the tallest buildings...but sadly the game doesn't work on my 360 anymore (disc unreadable). Anyway, its a nice game to have from the 360. Most games I've played for the system are either long RPGs such as BD, ES, Mass effect, etc., or shooters. I like all those games also, but this actiony stealthy kinda game switches it up and I really don't have any complaints with it aside from the odd "Why the heck are they chasing me now" moment...and the fact that so many people get the disc unreadable problem.

[jkanownik]

I really disliked the gameplay. I was looking forward to flinging myself around the rooftops until I discovered that there was almost nil skill involved--face a direction, hold two buttons, watch Altair do shit.

I think this is all in how you look at it. Instead of worrying about what buttons to press on the controller in your hand, your eyes stay focused on where you are running in the game. The extra immersion gained from this design decision is awesome! It brings me back to the days of my youth when the cops used to come and chase us away from the skating rink on Friday nights. When I was running away from them in the woods I wasn't thinking about the mechanics of my running. I was looking forward trying to find a path with my eyes that would lead to freedom.

[ThatDamnDave]

Anyone else have any trouble with the "Enemy of the Poor" achievement for throwing 25 harassers? It seems like I've thrown so many.

[MikeydCT]

right now I collecting all the flag and I hate that I have 99 of 100 and now have to look at every flag place again.

[pittpizza]

Oh yeah I realized from the get go that unless you plan on getting this acheivment from the beginning, you will have to find a list and just work down it one by one.

THe only way around this is if you meticulously wrote down every single flag you found. I don't even know how one coudl do this since the locations are so difficult to describe since buildings/cities are so similar.

You're the first person I've encountered that is going after this, lemme know how it goes. GOod luck!

[Drnick]

I just borrowed this game from a friend, and wow! its awesome. everything from the gameplay, to the storyline and how MASSIVE this game actually is. I just love how if you go to the tallest building in the game and look around, EVERYTHING you see you can go to. (thats amazing to me..... how there is no background in this game)

The "leap of faith" off the builds are pretty neat, as is walking behind a guard, stabbing him and walking on your merry way, you then see the guard fall and people start to get scared saying "theres a murder around!" all while you walk right by them..... its just amazing.

I can't wait to see where the story goes, I'm only in memory block 5, I think I've done all the events in the "present world" like stealing lucy and warrens pen's and reading e-mails (I hope I haven't missed anything, trying to play this without a walkthrough).

I don't see how I'll EVER get all 100 flags (without looking them up on-line) I have about 20 or so of each of the different flags so far, its like the packages in grand theft auto.

[emdub]

Anyone else have any trouble with the "Enemy of the Poor" achievement for throwing 25 harassers? It seems like I've thrown so many.

Just so you know...Harassers are the "Please, sir, 'ave any money" beggar women. The annoying fuckers who shove you don't count.

[ThatDamnDave]

Maybe that's my problem.

Also, for people going after flags. I have collected all flags & killed all templars. It's not that bad when you have the use of this blessed site:

http://www.assassinscreed-maps.com

Screen shots and maps of every flag and templar. So great.

[LinkinPrime]

Maybe that's my problem.

Also, for people going after flags. I have collected all flags & killed all templars. It's not that bad when you have the use of this blessed site:

http://www.assassinscreed-maps.com

Screen shots and maps of every flag and templar. So great.

Nice find, I'll add it to the OP.

[SteveMcQ]

Can you talk to and encounter the complete dialogue tree with that girl at any time or are they locked out once you get past certain checkpoints?

[emdub]

You have to talk to her every time after you leave the animus, before you go to sleep. You can't do it later, and you can't go back. If you miss just one (like I did), you have to start all over.

[pittpizza]

yeah thats kinda sucky about the conversations with whatshername. I figured it might be like that though so scoured the lab before adn after EVERY animus session to make sure I was thorough.

[ThatDamnDave]

I must have been pushing too many drunks. I got the enemy of the poor achievement today for a solid 1000/1000. Thanks for the bit of guidance.

[lordwow]

I'm trying to decide if I want to replay the whole game since I missed the first convo with Lucy. Meh.

[psychobrawler]

Just started this with no expectations after the mixed reviews. I was surprised at how much I absolutely loved the first 1 1/2 hours or so. Can't wait to play more. Good stuff.

[ThatDamnDave]

My enjoyment of the game peaked after about the third assassination. It just gets bogged down a little bit in being repetitive after that. Glad I played it but I can't get rid of it (via trade) fast enough.

[DarkNessBear]

Maybe that's my problem.

Also, for people going after flags. I have collected all flags & killed all templars. It's not that bad when you have the use of this blessed site:

http://www.assassinscreed-maps.com

Screen shots and maps of every flag and templar. So great.
Wow, awesome site. Thanks.

Now I just have to wait an hour for them to stop talking... I hate how you cannot just jump into the game once you beat it. You have to listen to the whole story again...

[ThatDamnDave]

They really should have come out with an option to just be placed at the bureau in whatever city you want to go back to after you finish the game.

If you're going to create 400 flags to nab, seems like the decent thing to do.

[SpecTrE3353]

Just started this with no expectations after the mixed reviews. I was surprised at how much I absolutely loved the first 1 1/2 hours or so. Can't wait to play more. Good stuff.

Same here. I am actually glad the game got such mixed and in some cases negative reviews because I think the lowered expectations have made me enjoy it considerably more. Previously due to the hype I would have expected a 9.5 game and instead only got an 8.0. After the review debacle I expected a 6.5 and instead got an 8.0. I think having low or no expectations in general really makes good games stand out so much more... One of the reasons I absolutely loved Portal was because I had absolutely no idea what to expect other than it being some sort of puzzle game.

[lordwow]

They really should have come out with an option to just be placed at the bureau in whatever city you want to go back to after you finish the game.

If you're going to create 400 flags to nab, seems like the decent thing to do.

I agree with this. I'm flag hunting today, and their replay mechanism... well sucks.

[FoxHoundADAM]

I'm actually finding I enjoy the game more the longer I play. I'm on block 6 and having more fun now than ever. Also, I've got the fighting down pretty well and I think that helps the enjoyment. It's no fun just to do counters all the time.

Although I will not have the pacients for collection all the flags.

[CouRageouS]

I had this from Gamefly the past week and thought it was great. I got all the achievements except the flags and the fight 25 guys one. I'd really like a sequel, just to see where they would take it from there.

[pittpizza]

Same here. I am actually glad the game got such mixed and in some cases negative reviews because I think the lowered expectations have made me enjoy it considerably more. Previously due to the hype I would have expected a 9.5 game and instead only got an 8.0. After the review debacle I expected a 6.5 and instead got an 8.0. I think having low or no expectations in general really makes good games stand out so much more... One of the reasons I absolutely loved Portal was because I had absolutely no idea what to expect other than it being some sort of puzzle game.


Interestign points about negative/mixed reviews making for a more pleasant surprise.

As far as combat went, can you beleive i went through the whole game without ever completley mastering the combat. Once I got counter it was just so easy to simply counter everybody. I'd go on the attack occasionally and would often grab and throw; but I never relaly got the combo attack and dodging down pat.

[FoxHoundADAM]

Interestign points about negative/mixed reviews making for a more pleasant surprise.

As far as combat went, can you beleive i went through the whole game without ever completley mastering the combat. Once I got counter it was just so easy to simply counter everybody. I'd go on the attack occasionally and would often grab and throw; but I never relaly got the combo attack and dodging down pat.
Yeah learning the combat is worth it. Really makes the fighting actualy kinda fun, although I iwsh we would ahve seen more Prince of Persia type of fighting.

[Nealocus123]

I googled the SHIT out of this but cannot find any information what so ever. What the hell is the pen used for that you steal off the scientist? I did it before entering the Animus so perhaps it was story related (meaning if you didn't steal it you wouldn't be allowed to enter the machine)?

Anyways, anyone with any information it would be very helpful, thanks!

[kromekoran]

it's his ID pen, it allows you to gain access to his computer and other things.

[Spades22]

Just beat this game and got everything but the flags, and the gameplay was quite fun. However, I read a bit about the background after playing the game. I've read a lot of comments on the game being anti-Christian. While I was going through AC, I assumed that my assassination targets were both part of the Salacen and Crusader armies...and that the main targets were those that had deviated from the goals of these armies and what they were striving for. So, the thought of either anti-Christian OR anti-muslim never REALLY striked me while I played. I mainly just thought I was taking out a group of individuals who were ultimately working together to harm civilians and mess things up even further, and that the Crusaders who were supposed to be Christians had turned on Richard's plan, joined with the arabics, and together they created their own motives and no longer actually had any true beliefs.

But now, looking back at the language used by Desmond, and some of the silly "illusions" they state occured with those artifacts, I'm starting to wonder if this game really was made to be at least slightly anti-Christian. When Mualim ranted about those artifacts, I assumed again that the makers of the game had him say those things only because he was ultimately an enemy in the game, and it would make you want to kill him all the more. But apparently Altair is a muslim anyway.

So, what do you think? Was it made to be an anti-Christian game? I kinda felt bad that I played through the game after reading some of the comments on this, as I seemed to convince myself throughout that I was technically eliminating those who had turned away from both sides...even though it is a game...

[looploop]

Is Altair a muslim? I was under the impression that the most of the assassins were of an agnostic/atheist bent.
"Nothing is true, Everything is permitted" seems hard to reconcile with "There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his Prophet".

[Spades22]

Hmm I meant more about the times Mualim and also Vidic at one point spout out and try to deny some of the miracles that took place as told in the Bible. Basically what I mean is that they seem to make, at least a slight effort at trying to discredit the Bible.

and ya I read he's a muslim...and that his name means something like flying eagle, or something like that.

[AshesofWake]

playing this game for the first time lately. and i have to say i am LOVING it, It took a while to start enjoying it though, the beginning made me want to send it back to gamefly. but after the first assassination, omg. And I know why i love it, im a HUGE Tenchu fan, the first two on PSX, and this one feels like those games with the stealth kills and everything, it's like Tenchu on crack with a shitty story. hahaa. totally picking it up when it's cheaper.

[HotShotX]

I'm about to finish up the game myself, and noticed the following in Vidic's emails:

Nation Mourns the Loss of Final Film Studio:

History was made today with the closing of the country's last movie studio. The rising prominence of video games coupled with rampant piracy are considered to be the leaded causes of its demise.

Pretty funny.

~HotShotX

[jkam]

Is this game worth it at $30?

[LegendK7ll3r]

Is this game worth it at $30?

100% yes.

The only thing I'd say that is bad about it, would be replay value. Besides flag collecting, there isn't really much to-do.

[jkanownik]

100% yes.

The only thing I'd say that is bad about it, would be replay value. Besides flag collecting, there isn't really much to-do.

To that point if you're the type of person who buys games and holds onto them, you may want to consider renting this game instead of buying it.

I absolutely loved this game, but I played through it once and never went back to it.

[Mrbaseball2710]

After I beat the game can I go back to the cities to get all the save citizens, pickpockets, and high points.

I know this is a dead thread, but please help!

[foxdvd]

I thinks so yes....you can load up older memory blocks.....

[mercilessming]

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/platinumhits/?WT.svl=nav

Assassins Creed as been added to Platinum Hits along with a few other new games.

[Littlefields]

Yeah I think it was lowered to that price a while ago and now it's finally listed as a PH. Nice post.

[Richlough]

AC could be Ace Combat , don't be so lazy .

[mercilessming]

AC could be Ace Combat , don't be so lazy .


Actually if it was meant to be Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation that has been released on Xbox 360 it would be "AC6", don't be so quick to judge, think first. Have a nice Labor Day

[BackInBlack]

This is nice to hear that it has made Platinum status, but the $29.99 price is no bargain considering you could get it for less than that earlier this year.

[Fuzi0n]

That list seems to be jacking the prices up on some really old games.

[Littlefields]

That list seems to be jacking the prices up on some really old games.
Well for one thing it's the official Xbox site so they aren't going to be your lowered retail prices.

[bardockkun]

Still $25 too much for that game...

[Soodmeg]

Still $25 too much for that game...

Fucking agreed. That game was pure shit and hype mixed.

Also OP fix your topic title. It is really lazy man.

Also did you mean to say hope this "hasnt" been posted before? Just type out the name of the game like every other post on this thread.

Please and thank you.

[Mr Unoriginal]

Fucking agreed. That game was pure shit and hype mixed.

Also OP fix your topic title. It is really lazy man.

Also did you mean to say hope this "hasnt" been posted before? Just type out the name of the game like every other post on this thread.

Please and thank you.

Using OP is lazy.
Not including an apostrophe in 'hasn't' is lazy.

[Soodmeg]

Using OP is lazy.
Not including an apostrophe in 'hasn't' is lazy.

Yeah awesomely funny.

All hilarity aside its a thread title.

[BoneMonkey80]

you can get the game used for 15 bucks

[Chase]

I appreciate its breadth but the game became way too boring way too fast. Intelligence gathering provided little fun. The tasks were pretty 'square.' I would have liked to have seen more creativity. Also, I think assassinations could have been handled better. Perhaps the next Assassin's Creed game will allow less-scripted assassinations.

15 is a good deal for the game. 30, for me, is still way too much.

[chubbyninja1319]

I've held off on this game for a LONG time. Logic is telling me to listen to all the people who said it's boring as hell. But, it just looks so damn good. I wish there was some wicked magic sale and I could get it for $10 or something.

[bardockkun]

I've held off on this game for a LONG time. Logic is telling me to listen to all the people who said it's boring as hell. But, it just looks so damn good. I wish there was some wicked magic sale and I could get it for $10 or something.
Probably Black Friday, but I think you can just as easily Gamefly it or rent it where ever and you can beat it within a week or less.

[RaidenMGS3]

I was really hoping the Platinum Hits edition would be the PC Director's Cut instead of just the same 360 game. Ah well.... still crossing my fingers for Mass Effect Platinum Hits will be the PC version.

[mike.m]

I've held off on this game for a LONG time. Logic is telling me to listen to all the people who said it's boring as hell. But, it just looks so damn good. I wish there was some wicked magic sale and I could get it for $10 or something.

My opinion is completely opposite. I can't believe I hadn't played it sooner. I just beat it about a week ago. Its repetitive, but I didn't really mind it so much since I had fun just assassinating people.

[LegendK7ll3r]

I've held off on this game for a LONG time. Logic is telling me to listen to all the people who said it's boring as hell. But, it just looks so damn good. I wish there was some wicked magic sale and I could get it for $10 or something.

It's only what you make it. You can make it boring and repetitive, or you can make it fun, and an adventure. That's the point of an open-world, you can do what you want, when you want.

If you simply just go around and only do the missions, of-course this game will get boring.. however, just running around the city and doing whatever you want, and occasionally doing missions, will give you an entirely new perspective / experience on and with the game.

It's the same principle as any GTA game, if you just go and do the missions, you'll get bored rather quickly (although not as-much in GTAIV, but still). The real fun happens when you just go around the open world just doing whatever you want.

It's a game where you take your time to beat it. If you don't take your time, and just do mission after mission, you won't have any fun. However, like I stated above, if you "stretch" it out per-se, by just having fun through-out the city, and doing the occasional mission, you'll enjoy the game without a shadow of a doubt.

[Soodmeg]

It's only what you make it. You can make it boring and repetitive, or you can make it fun, and an adventure. That's the point of an open-world, you can do what you want, when you want.

If you simply just go around and only do the missions, of-course this game will get boring.. however, just running around the city and doing whatever you want, and occasionally doing missions, will give you an entirely new perspective / experience on and with the game.

It's the same principle as any GTA game, if you just go and do the missions, you'll get bored rather quickly (although not as-much in GTAIV, but still). The real fun happens when you just go around the open world just doing whatever you want.

It's a game where you take your time to beat it. If you don't take your time, and just do mission after mission, you won't have any fun. However, like I stated above, if you "stretch" it out per-se, by just having fun through-out the city, and doing the occasional mission, you'll enjoy the game without a shadow of a doubt.

Dude that is a fucking lie and you know it. Thats such a bullshit excuse that those dumbass Penny Arcade guys made up. Why would I play this game differently then I play any other game? Like I bought AC for the sole purpose of rushing through it as fast as I can. No I played this game the same as I play every other game.

And you really do need to check the definition of a open world game because AC is far from and open world. Its just a huge ass map with a lot of NPC doing nothing. The difference being in an actually open world there are things going on that are completely separate from each other whether the user is there or not.

In GTA (which a insult that you would even compare the 2) there are thousands of lines of dialogue that the NPC will say to each other whether or not the user is in range to hear it or not. The NPC will also get into car accidents, fights, chase by cops, hell actually talk with different accents depending on what part of the city you are in, etc etc.

There is literally only 4 things to do in AC that's it that's all and that what your ever going to get. Yeah but its my fault that they didn't program anything more to the game but the exact same 4 missions over and over again right? My fault beacuse I don't think its fun to run around collecting fucking flags for 3 hours in every single city. The exact same dialogue said in the exact same way is in 6 different cities is not an open world. NPC preform the exact same action anywhere in the game. There is no open world because I know exactly what every single NPC will do whether I am in the first city or the last beacuse they are all only programmed to do 2 one action and one action only.

And this is not to dump all over you but we all played the game and half of us said it was extremely boring and repetitive and its bullshit that you can even imply that its our own fault like we some how missed the boat on how fun the game is. Even though I beat the piss poor game and did about half of the extra stuff.

If you like the game or not is none of my concern. But don't imply that the people who didn't like this game somehow "did it wrong" and that's the reason why they didn't like it. Beacuse that is bullshit. I didn't like the game beacuse it fucking sucked and no other reason. It sucking being my opinion but trust me its not because I played the game wrong. :roll:

[blitz6speed]

Ive been going through my backlog and this game was up next. Finally finished it after playing for 3 or 4 days, i loved it. I liked how the achievements really helped make the game a lot more fun and i got every high area, rescued everyone in every city, and all the other goodies. Ending was odd, but i wasn't expecting anything major from it anyway. I give it a solid b-. Looking forward to part 2!

[lterenzi]

I am in the middle. I have done several assassinations and I find myself bored as hell right now but I cant really unload it either. I will just keep it around and do what I can with it every once in a blue moon. I might beat it over the next few years :)

[Droenixjpn]

I never got to finish this game, as I got bored after awhile, just doing the same thing but with the amount of work increased twofold. That's probably why I sold the game, but I wish I had kept it. The only thing that was really interesting was the very beginning, which basically had a great story going, and then to the middle. After the middle part it began to become ehh...

I would have loved the game more if it had more replayability, and possibly more invigorating gameplay. Although they did have some great ideas, let's hope they improve the next game (if there's going to be one).

I'd have to give this game a 3.5/5, not worth it at 60 bucks, but I'd say it is at 30-40.

[UltimoRey]

I need some help. I was playing AC last night and when i started it up today i cant leave the area. It was right after i got the Blood of A Nemesis achivement. I cant leace the area that the battle took place in. when i try it says that the memory can not be accessed at this time. There are a few archers in the area, but i cant kill them and they wont come at me. If i pause there is no mission in the status menu. Ive tried restarting, loading the tutorial and then going back. nothing has worked. Hope someone can help. Thanks.

[life.exe]

I need some help. I was playing AC last night and when i started it up today i cant leave the area. It was right after i got the Blood of A Nemesis achivement. I cant leace the area that the battle took place in. when i try it says that the memory can not be accessed at this time. There are a few archers in the area, but i cant kill them and they wont come at me. If i pause there is no mission in the status menu. Ive tried restarting, loading the tutorial and then going back. nothing has worked. Hope someone can help. Thanks.

Meaning you just cant find a way out or you have those blue walls all around you that wont let you out?

[Corvin]

Funny, I just started this game the other day. After seeing footage of AC2, I figured it was about time to pop it in. I've spent about 4-5 hours in it and it's pretty dull. The atmosphere, locations and characters are great but the game itself is so dame boring. Despite that, it is still strangely addictive for some reason. I can't put it down.

[joelhunt]

I picked it up used for 15 bucks (w/ Blockbuster 25% coupon), and it was super fun at the beginning. The graphics are really amazing, and the "parkour-type" running around is really neat.

I did get bored pretty fast, but I plan to go back to it at some point. Right now all I want to do is jump around in Crackdown and blow stuff up, so AC seems like a visit to the library in comparison.

[UltimoRey]

Meaning you just cant find a way out or you have those blue walls all around you that wont let you out?
blue walls

[Nealocus123]

This was one of my favorite games when it originally came out. I do agree with the fact that it gets quite repetitive after awhile, but I still really enjoyed it. Assassin's Creed 2 is probably my most anticipated game behind Halo O.D.S.T. and The Saboteur. During the interview at E3 the developer was apologizing for how repetitive the first one was and he promised the new one is going to be very different.

[darthbudge]

I am playing through Assassin's Creed right now and I am loving it. I am on Memory Block 5. The only thing I don't like is those ridiculous Informer Assassination missions.

Assassinate 5 people without causing any alarms in only 4 minutes? Yeah, screw that.

[LegendK7ll3r]

Dude that is a fucking lie and you know it. Thats such a bullshit excuse that those dumbass Penny Arcade guys made up. Why would I play this game differently then I play any other game? Like I bought AC for the sole purpose of rushing through it as fast as I can. No I played this game the same as I play every other game.

And you really do need to check the definition of a open world game because AC is far from and open world. Its just a huge ass map with a lot of NPC doing nothing. The difference being in an actually open world there are things going on that are completely separate from each other whether the user is there or not.

In GTA (which a insult that you would even compare the 2) there are thousands of lines of dialogue that the NPC will say to each other whether or not the user is in range to hear it or not. The NPC will also get into car accidents, fights, chase by cops, hell actually talk with different accents depending on what part of the city you are in, etc etc.

There is literally only 4 things to do in AC that's it that's all and that what your ever going to get. Yeah but its my fault that they didn't program anything more to the game but the exact same 4 missions over and over again right? My fault beacuse I don't think its fun to run around collecting fucking flags for 3 hours in every single city. The exact same dialogue said in the exact same way is in 6 different cities is not an open world. NPC preform the exact same action anywhere in the game. There is no open world because I know exactly what every single NPC will do whether I am in the first city or the last beacuse they are all only programmed to do 2 one action and one action only.

And this is not to dump all over you but we all played the game and half of us said it was extremely boring and repetitive and its bullshit that you can even imply that its our own fault like we some how missed the boat on how fun the game is. Even though I beat the piss poor game and did about half of the extra stuff.

If you like the game or not is none of my concern. But don't imply that the people who didn't like this game somehow "did it wrong" and that's the reason why they didn't like it. Beacuse that is bullshit. I didn't like the game beacuse it fucking sucked and no other reason. It sucking being my opinion but trust me its not because I played the game wrong. :roll:

Did it ever occur to you that is my opinion? That's my opinion on what makes the game fun, you don't have to agree with what I said, no need to be a jerk just because you don't like the game, and I do. I never stated you were playing it "wrong", I said why not try the way I personally played it, which is what helped keep my interest in the title. That's what worked for me. That's why I stated it.

Just because I have an opinion, means I'm stealing from Penny Arcade? I don't even read Penny Arcade. Ever. I played the episodic XBLA games, but I could care-less about their actual comic. Yet, I guess I'm stealing from them, since I think A.C. is a good game, and merely make suggestions on new ways to keep the gameplay fresh and exciting.

I know this is quite a few months late, however I don't visit this thread much, obviously. I really could care-less how you play it, why you play it, if you hate it, if you like it, or what ever you want to do with it. I like it, I enjoy it, and I only gave my perspective on how to keep the game fun and exciting.

Now, how is this not an open-world game? NPC's do nothing in GTA when you're not around, you know. They are spawned as you are playing, not in advance. A.C. is no different. I don't even know how you came to that conclusion. You can go anywhere at anytime, so it's completely open-world.

As for missions, let's look back to GTA. Drive here, kill people, drive back. I think that's about pretty much every mission. Sure, there's new dialogue for each one, but it's either drive, kill, or kill and drive. So many choices there as well, huh?

See? I was able to accomplish that entire paragraph without personal insults or swearing, and get my point across. Go figure.

[Ronin317]

I've held off on this game for a LONG time. Logic is telling me to listen to all the people who said it's boring as hell. But, it just looks so damn good. I wish there was some wicked magic sale and I could get it for $10 or something.

I was in the same boat, ended up scoring a perfect used copy for $10 a while back, and just started it last month. I like the game a lot, but the game is repetitive to the max. The Zero Punctuation Review (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/16-Assassins-Creed) is spot on in this regard, but I'm having enough fun with it to keep playing.

If Ubisoft can fix some of the nagging things and repetitive missions and mix things up here and there, then they're going to have a monster game in AC2.

[Corvin]

I am playing through Assassin's Creed right now and I am loving it. I am on Memory Block 5. The only thing I don't like is those ridiculous Informer Assassination missions.

Assassinate 5 people without causing any alarms in only 4 minutes? Yeah, screw that.

I'm on memory block 3 and was having problems with taking two guys down just last night. Took about 20 minutes. Talk about aggravating. I've had problems with pick-pocket missions as well. Everything else is gravy.

[Hydro2Oxide]

I am playing through Assassin's Creed right now and I am loving it. I am on Memory Block 5. The only thing I don't like is those ridiculous Informer Assassination missions.

Assassinate 5 people without causing any alarms in only 4 minutes? Yeah, screw that.

Holy shit I remember that one. Was hella hard but after I did I felt like a king.

[Lord_Kefka]

Wow, I forgot how polarized the reaction was between love it or hate it. Man, some people are angry.

I fell into the love it portion myself. Even though there weren't too many unique actions happening, I loved getting high up on a tall building and watching the people bustle about below. The architecture itself was a big plus, especially since it opened so many unique avenues for escape and free-running. I personally just had fun running around in the sandbox world.

It also gave me the unique "assassin" thrill. Cause to me, Metal Gear was "cat and mouse". You had to avoid most confrontations, which edged with a little bit of anxiety and fear. Most other games, you are so powerful you only fear making mistakes but can power through most enemies. With Assassins Creed, I felt like I was the stalker. Learn the information, plan my route and hit my target before he realized it was happening. I still have a mental log of my major kills just cause they were so fun. Dropped from the balcony right in front of the guy who was poisoning his audience, chasing down the archer dude and getting him seconds after we landed on the busy street. Although I hated the boat stage. That one took me forever. Mostly because my mark kept spotting me. Eventually though I pulled myself up on the ledge right as he turned around and jump-killed him before he could react.

Good times. :)

I really hope they fix the in-between current day portions. That annoyed the crap out of me. It was so impossible to move around and felt really clunky.

[saunderscowie]

I bought this game in January for £5 and just started playing it today, it's pretty good though and not in very far. Controls take a little getting used to.

[Xfactor19990]

bought this game on launch haha and just beat it today, amazing game IMO bring on AC2!

[tenzor]

from kotaku

http://kotaku.com/5286712/assassins-creed-2-special-edition-includes-missions-music--toys

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/06/eziofig.jpg


Like any other high-profile (or even mid-profile) game these days, Assassin's Creed 2 will be available in a collector's edition. Let's take a look at what's inside. Called the "Black Edition", the limited edition box set will ship in "black packaging", and come with a "unique authentic holographic signature". Whatever that means.

Included will be a "64-page finely crafted leather style hardcover and parchment-finish" book, which has stuff like concept art and developer interviews, a copy of the game's soundtrack, an Ezio action figure (pictured), some "behind-the-scene interviews" and 3 "in-game bonus quests".

As far as price goes, currently it's only being listed in PAL territories, at £69.99 in the UK (USD$115) and AUD$149.95 (USD$121) in Australia. Since most games cost around AUD$100 here, you can probably expect the US version to come in at around $80-90.

[Nealocus123]

from kotaku

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/06/eziofig.jpg

Holy mother that is so badass. This will be the first Special Edition game I've picked up since...hmmm, I can't even remember. I got the Halo 3 Legendary but it was through a contest so that doesn't count. God, I wonder how big it is.

[Corvin]

It's still Ubisoft. Odds are you'll be able to find this in January for about $40.

[Nealocus123]

It's still Ubisoft. Odds are you'll be able to find this in January for about $40.

The original Assassin's Creed seems to have held its value fairly well hasn't it? Plus there are a TON more people who are excited for the sequel considering it looks like its going to improve on pretty much every negative of the first. Granted I'm sure it will still drop in price, I dunno if the CE will go that far down that fast.

[utopianmachine]

Just started playing this game today, and I must say it seems incredible. My immediate gripe is the lack of a subtitles option, because it badly needs it.

[Zeeman]

Pause the game and go to display options, it should be there.

[utopianmachine]

Pause the game and go to display options, it should be there.

It's a common complaint of the game that subtitles are not there, nor is there a menu option to enable them.

[zeb06]

Been playing AC 2...so far it seems very much like more of the same. Adding shop, doctors, and such but still feels the same. I enjoyed the first one alright, and so far this one starts off exactly where the first one left off. I haven't gotten to play much but the first 3 achievements are 20 points each and you basically do nothing for them lol.

[naiku]

^

its like the first but way more polished. Having your own villa/town to earn money and upgrade is a nice touch. More weapons and armors, dyes, capes. It doesn't have a ton of variety in gear like an rpg but for this sorta game it adds a very nice touch.No more "save the citizen" you have beat em up and races which are pretty fun. The few beat em up's that i did have you finding and beating up a cheating husband. Its definitely a fun game.
I don't think people who hated the first will enjoy the more refined and slightly different ac2. The additions they put into the game make is a lot of fun for those who enjoyed the first. The story in AC2 seems much more interesting than the first. Its more personal with family and your reasons to assassinate these people.

[zeb06]

Yep, I felt that if you liked the first, you should like this one. If you hated the first one, it feels too similar to completely change someones mind about it.

[sublime90]

i cant wait for the psp game

[Zeeman]

It's a common complaint of the game that subtitles are not there, nor is there a menu option to enable them.

Sorry, I thought you were talking about AC II. The definitely fixed the subtitle problem for that one.