View Full Version : Ninety-Nine Nights Demo Up on Live
graf1k
07-28-2006, 07:47 AM
What the title says.
shipwreck
07-28-2006, 08:20 AM
Yep, downloading right now. Probably not my bag, but I'll give it a shot.
jkircos
07-28-2006, 09:14 AM
Crap I missed this before I went to work today...
shipwreck
07-28-2006, 09:27 AM
Okay, well just as I thought, not for me. Got boring really quickly and seemed to lack the urgency that the tactics of Dynasty Warriors brought into play. It looks pretty, but unless you are a fan of these types of games, this probably won't do too much for you.
The voice acting/script appears to be pretty laughable as well. I think I'll get my mindless slaughter of thousands of enemies from Dead Rising.
graf1k
07-28-2006, 09:32 AM
Yeah, I didn't think it was bad for what it was, but it's up and down a pretty DW clone. I'll give it a rental but I don't think it'll be worth owning, even at $45.
Scorch
07-28-2006, 09:40 AM
Always hated DW and pretty sure I'll dislike this, but i'm downloading it anyway.
I cant believe this I really want try this game and of course I can't cause stupid Broken 360 I hate how much content been going up and I have no 360.
Santurio
07-28-2006, 10:04 AM
I'll give it a shot but I know it won't sway me into buying it.
Kendal
07-28-2006, 10:41 AM
This was one of the games that got me interested in the 360. Massive battles and copying DW, sounded fun. I hope it isn't that bad and all you guys are just jaded Nazi Gamers.
Supercake
07-28-2006, 10:58 AM
I think I'll get my mindless slaughter of thousands of enemies from Dead Rising.
QFT indeed. Still interested in Ninty Nine, but Dead Rising is THE game I've been wanting for 360. Guess I'll have to play the demo later today and see how it is.
anomynous
07-28-2006, 11:00 AM
I like the demo, but Im getting Dead Rising first
Apossum
07-28-2006, 11:22 AM
can't wait to play the demo. how long is it?
anomynous
07-28-2006, 11:33 AM
can't wait to play the demo. how long is it?
it's kinda long, there is A LOT of enemies
flybrione
07-28-2006, 11:50 AM
I want to play this now. Just a few more hours!
graf1k
07-28-2006, 12:05 PM
can't wait to play the demo. how long is it?
One level, took me about 20 minutes.
Roufuss
07-28-2006, 01:33 PM
I don't know... maybe Dynasty Warriors killed the whole mindless hack and slash genre for you guys but I found the demo extremely fun.
The dude has TONS of combo attacks to perform, which is way more than DW's "6 combos per character" BS. It's also nice seeing hundreds of enemies on screen at once (at least 200, I think).
The framerate took a dive at some points but it picked right back up, nothing that would make me stop me from buying this. This game is everything Dynasty Warriors should have evolved into... I think I might get this when it comes out.
The deciding factor is what is the game like outside of story mode, and how many playable characters does it have.
I'm someone who got burned out on DW's mindless garbage too, 99 Nights is genuinely fun and looks decent to boot.
I didn't like Kingdom Under Fire, but I'll give this a try. I'll probably delete it after the first play.
Kendal
07-28-2006, 01:37 PM
I liked the demo, but I die at the damn troll everytime. I guess I will have to get better at it. I am going to wait for the price to sink like a rock, then buy it. Mostly because I am a poor bastard. I enjoyed the demo and it was everything I wanted it to be. A ton of enemies, great sound and graphics. I had some problems with the camera, but nothing horrible. It reminds me of the LotR epic battles. Just not as epic. I can't wait to get my mits on the full version....in a few months.
DomLando
07-28-2006, 01:48 PM
Downloading now..
Apossum
07-28-2006, 02:00 PM
could've been worse. having never played a dynasty warriors game, I thought it was decent. I'd buy it over any other 360 game that's out right now....
Chacrana
07-28-2006, 02:02 PM
Not sure if I'll even bother downloading the demo... Dynasty Warriors is one of the worst designed games ever.
graf1k
07-28-2006, 02:12 PM
I don't know... maybe Dynasty Warriors killed the whole mindless hack and slash genre for you guys but I found the demo extremely fun.
The dude has TONS of combo attacks to perform, which is way more than DW's "6 combos per character" BS. It's also nice seeing hundreds of enemies on screen at once (at least 200, I think).
I agree that it is a superior game to any of the DW games so far, but still DW kind of killed the genre. I mean I only played the 360 one and by the time I beat the game I was completely sick of it. At least N-3 seems a bit more challenging. Of the 4 times I played that demo level I was only able to beat it twice.
I liked the demo, but I die at the damn troll everytime.
The key is to use the red orb thing everytime it fills and then kill as many enemies as you can to fill up the blue orb gauge and use that on a big hoarde of enemies or the troll. I was able to fill the blue gauge twice in that levle. Plus, I think everytime you use the red orb power you gain some HP back and the blue totally refills life. Also combo a lot, that helps. The enemies can't seem to attack too well when you combo.
Apossum
07-28-2006, 02:17 PM
Not sure if I'll even bother downloading the demo... Dynasty Warriors is one of the worst designed games ever.
it's worth it just to see the ridiculous number of enemies on screen at once.
terribledeli
07-28-2006, 02:32 PM
the camera angle really kills the game for me. even zoomed out, its not far enough.
still keeping my pre-order though.
Roufuss
07-28-2006, 02:33 PM
the camera angle really kills the game for me. even zoomed out, its not far enough.
still keeping my pre-order though.
This was the only problem I had.
It's not a deal ruiner though.
The Mana Knight
07-28-2006, 02:40 PM
Not sure if I'll even bother downloading the demo... Dynasty Warriors is one of the worst designed games ever.It still sells around 1 million copies in Japan, every installment.;)
I have interest in Nintey Nine Nights, but I'm not really sure since the game was mostly developed by Phantagram (Q Entertainment mostly handed development to them) and I thought the KUF series was all right, at best (I greatly preferred DW).
It still sells around 1 million copies in Japan, every installment.;)
And the German masses thought Hitler was the bomb.
graf1k
07-28-2006, 02:44 PM
Zing!
Seriously though, what the fuck is wrong with Japan?
Also, the camera DOES have problems. Even if I leave it at 3/4th veiw it still has problems when fighting on a hill and shit like that. I hope they fix that some because a game like this messing with the camera is the last thing you want to be doing.
Roufuss
07-28-2006, 03:27 PM
Zing!
Seriously though, what the fuck is wrong with Japan?
Also, the camera DOES have problems. Even if I leave it at 3/4th veiw it still has problems when fighting on a hill and shit like that. I hope they fix that some because a game like this messing with the camera is the last thing you want to be doing.
I don't think anything will be changed from the demo to the game... the demo is pretty much what we'll be seeing in the final copy, if the game intends to meet it's shipping date it will go gold very soon for the US.
Apossum
07-28-2006, 04:29 PM
occasionally the camera would be close, but low, so I'd get a nice shot of the goblin's legs and asses. why they would even put an angle like that in a game like this is beyond me...
I have interest in Nintey Nine Nights, but I'm not really sure since the game was mostly developed by Phantagram (Q Entertainment mostly handed development to them) and I thought the KUF series was all right, at best (I greatly preferred DW).
I wish it was all done by Q...they'd find a way to make it more addictive than crack and shorten those long walks to the next battle.
Roufuss
07-28-2006, 04:40 PM
I wish it was all done by Q...they'd find a way to make it more addictive than crack and shorten those long walks to the next battle.
Yea, I don't know what's up with those... Dynasty Warriors uses them too, I think along the walks are "trigger points" to spawn more enemies, hence why the walks are so long, to space out the encounter rate.
The game lags a bit with so many things on screen, if you doubled or tripled that it would probably crash.
I can't wait for this one to hit, maybe Koei will finally fucking take notice and fix the very broken DW series. The only reason it does so well in Japan, imo, is because of the history behind it.
I had the dude in N3 pulling off so much crazy shit... spearing a guy, twirling him around, air combos, spinning his spear around demolishing everything... I think the demo has 20 - 25 different combos you can do from the start.
The game is already going to be addictive for me... the sheer amount of enemies on screen at once was an awesome feeling, something DW should have tried to do long ago. No fog or pop up either that I noticed! Seeing hordes of goblins coming across a hill was an awesome rush.
This is why I love the marketplace... I was on the fence about this title, but the demo has made me really want the game.
anomynous
07-28-2006, 04:44 PM
What's your guys' biggest combos? Mine is 726
Roufuss
07-28-2006, 04:46 PM
What's your guys' biggest combos? Mine is 726
Mine was over 1,100, I don't remember the exact number.
Got it near the end when there is a ton of guys on screen at once... the move when he impales the goblin and twirls him around hitting a ton of people drove my combo rate way up.
Zingela
07-28-2006, 07:01 PM
Starting me download now. Been wanting to try this for a very long time!
graf1k
07-28-2006, 07:14 PM
Mine was over 1,100, I don't remember the exact number.
Got it near the end when there is a ton of guys on screen at once... the move when he impales the goblin and twirls him around hitting a ton of people drove my combo rate way up.
Mine was over 2000. It's when you mean back up with Inphyy. Jump attack right into the middle, combo'd a little and then used the red orb and did the slide attack thing. I want to hit the blue orb power up in that circle next time. I'm hoping it'll send goblins flying in literally every direction.
Roufuss
07-28-2006, 07:16 PM
Mine was over 2000. It's when you mean back up with Inphyy. Jump attack right into the middle, combo'd a little and then used the red orb and did the slide attack thing. I want to hit the blue orb power up in that circle next time. I'm hoping it'll send goblins flying in literally every direction.
It did and it was awesome, I did it myself ;)
Kendal
07-28-2006, 07:19 PM
What's your guys' biggest combos? Mine is 726
I had a big combo going, over 1000 hits. It was badass.
Roufuss
07-28-2006, 07:28 PM
This whole game will be awesome.
I might wait for a few reviews though... it might not have alot of replayability once you unlock everything, the achievements for the game are kind of bare (and easy to get, at least some of them).
All Characters Max (200) Raise every character to level 9 and clear all stages.
All Stages A Rank or Above (200) Clear all stages with A rank or higher.
Aspharr Clear (100) Clear all of Aspharr's stages.
Dwingvatt Clear (100) Clear all of Dwingvatt's stages.
Inphyy Clear (100) Clear all of Inphyy's stages.
Klarrann Clear (50) Clear all of Klarrann's stages.
Myifee Clear (50) Clear all of Myifee's stages.
Secret Character Clear (50) Clear all of the secret character's stages.
Special Stage Clear (100) Clear the special stage.
Tyurru Clear (50) Clear all of Tyurru's stages.
Apossum
07-28-2006, 07:29 PM
on second thought, this demo is pretty sweet and I'll probably get this on launch :)
my highest combo was 1305.
Chacrana
07-28-2006, 07:33 PM
I wish it was all done by Q...they'd find a way to make it more addictive than crack and shorten those long walks to the next battle.
It'd probably end up like Gitaroo man but for every note you hit, you slice an enemy in half. There's also be the typical Mizuguchi electronic music...
Come to think of it, a game like that'd be pretty awesome.
Mojimbo
07-28-2006, 07:41 PM
With voice acting this bad I don't get why they don't offer optional Japanese voice w/subtitles. The game's pretty fun, although it can get a little brainless. Probably end up renting it since new content isn't too plentiful yet.
Also, what the fuck happened to no new marketplace content on Fridays?
Apossum
07-28-2006, 07:50 PM
It'd probably end up like Gitaroo man but for every note you hit, you slice an enemy in half. There's also be the typical Mizuguchi electronic music...
Come to think of it, a game like that'd be pretty awesome.
I'm sold. dude, go propose that to him. If he turns away with a mean look on his face, start crying and say "Gomendesai!!!!!!!" in a really high pitched voice ;)
on a side note, some people who played the Japanese version said it seemed like they fixed the slowdown plaguing it.
the bad news is that the main game has no checkpoints, like the demo :bomb: I really hope they fixed that because it would fucking suck to have to keep playing levels over like that...considering the game is basically about luck.
graf1k
07-28-2006, 08:11 PM
I think I've got this game figured out.
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1912/234234234234044ar3.jpg
Only achievement that seems like it would take much effort is the A Rankings and even then I imagine they are easy enough. The play through before this one I got an A Ranking and leveled up twice.
ksuwild25
07-28-2006, 08:16 PM
The demo was pretty fun. I got a max combo of 1665.
Seems like it will be a difficult game, and like someone else said it sucks that there is no checkpoints.
Chacrana
07-28-2006, 08:17 PM
With voice acting this bad I don't get why they don't offer optional Japanese voice w/subtitles. The game's pretty fun, although it can get a little brainless. Probably end up renting it since new content isn't too plentiful yet.
Also, what the fuck happened to no new marketplace content on Fridays?
Even with next gen games we're still not seeing the original language? Sigh...
Tha Xecutioner
07-28-2006, 09:02 PM
I think the demo was pretty fun, nothing too amazing, just fun to beat the crap outta people. Pure rental for me.
TheRock88
07-28-2006, 09:11 PM
Also a rental for me. Seems like a poor man's Dynasty Warriors that you can beat over a weekend.
Roufuss
07-28-2006, 09:14 PM
Also a rental for me. Seems like a poor man's Dynasty Warriors that you can beat over a weekend.
This game is FAR from a poor man's Dynasty Warriors... it makes that shitty series it's bitch many times over.
Monsta Mack
07-28-2006, 10:06 PM
Camera sucks. More mindless then Dynasty Warriors it seems (is that even possible?) I think I'll stick to Dead Rising and also wait for a KUF 360 game,because Kingdom Under Fire is leagues ahead of Dynasty Warriors and this game. This might be worth $10 for a full retail version, but not much more at this point IMHO.
Edit: I'll admit having that many enemies on screen was a riot though at first. I hope KOEI takes a hint.
graf1k
07-28-2006, 10:22 PM
Isn't this made by the guys that do KUF?
Scorch
07-28-2006, 10:39 PM
It's okay. Very, very repetitive. Rental at best, and even that's pushing it.
WildWop
07-28-2006, 11:19 PM
You guys give Dynasty Warriors far too much credit in the brain department -- N3 is no more or less intelligent than DW. If anything, it's a little deeper since there's more combos to use.
If this had co-op, I'd probably pick it up. I like the DW style of game, but I like it 10x more when I can sit there and play it with a friend. I haven't seen mention of co-op anywhere, so I'm acting under the assumption that N3 will be missing this particular feature.
Zoglog
07-28-2006, 11:36 PM
just finished demo. Good stuff. It's different than the demo at E3 which was way more boring (probably because inphyy is not as fun and she was only lvl 2). Either way looks like a pretty solid game. I'm getting sick of that single level landscape though. This is the 3rd variation i've played of that troll mission.
levi333
07-29-2006, 12:43 AM
Demo was OK, but the camera angles were terrible. Had to constantly adjust, and never was where i wanted it.
Racked up 3,400 kills. Was fun but with that camera, not a chance.
rabbitt
07-29-2006, 12:54 AM
Godawful in every aspect, save maybe music. Although that got repetitive, too. It didn't look too bad, graphics-wise, on my TV, but that's all I'll say positive. What was the point of troops if they couldn't kill anything?
And the camera made me feel like I was in the front-mother-fuckin-row of a movie theater. The moves were fun to watch the first couple times. After that, they got pretty damn stale. I can't imagine playing the entire game if I got bored after the second 'batch' of enemies.
terribledeli
07-29-2006, 12:55 AM
Isn't this made by the guys that do KUF?
yes.
Trakan
07-29-2006, 12:58 AM
The demo was way above my expectations. It blows Dynasty Warriors outta the water. I'm actually contemplating picking this up for $45 after GGC.
The only things that bothered me a bit were the guy moved a bit slow and the camera was a bit wonky at times, but it's nothing too terrible.
Roufuss
07-29-2006, 03:47 AM
The demo was way above my expectations. It blows Dynasty Warriors outta the water. I'm actually contemplating picking this up for $45 after GGC.
The only things that bothered me a bit were the guy moved a bit slow and the camera was a bit wonky at times, but it's nothing too terrible.
One of the triggers is a dash sort of move.
Zoglog
07-29-2006, 04:09 AM
oh yeah voice acting is horrid. But that was not suprising.
fieldkillah
07-29-2006, 04:46 AM
I thought this game was great, racking up over a 3100 combo and seeing the enemies flying through the air was great mindless fun.
seanr1221
07-29-2006, 09:48 AM
The demo was way above my expectations. It blows Dynasty Warriors outta the water. I'm actually contemplating picking this up for $45 after GGC.
The only things that bothered me a bit were the guy moved a bit slow and the camera was a bit wonky at times, but it's nothing too terrible.
I'll give ya one better... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FLZEXM/ref=sr_11_1/102-5392141-8844107?ie=UTF8
No tax and free shipping too :bouncy:
psychobrawler
07-29-2006, 11:19 AM
Button mashing fun, but the camara and complete lack of save points makes this a pass for me. Same reason I ended up bailing on the Kingdom Under Fire games. Great for a while, but once you hit an hour long mission that gets really tough and die facing the last couple obstacles, only to have to completely restart - that's so infuriating to me that I'm not going to subject myself to the possibility...
LinkinPrime
07-29-2006, 03:18 PM
I'll get it when I can finder under $30. I wonder if the Microsoft Retail site will have it soon. Just checked its not there.
Zoglog
07-29-2006, 03:18 PM
I can see some problems with this game, but I don't get how people can complain about the camera. It's just fine....... I've seen plenty of worse cameras.......
Roufuss
07-29-2006, 03:22 PM
I'll get it when I can finder under $30. I wonder if the Microsoft Retail site will have it soon. Just checked its not there.
Lately the retail site has been getting games after the fact, like two or three weeks after, in my experience.
I haven't used it in awhile though... you're right, I think I will wait to see if they get it.
DomLando
07-29-2006, 04:22 PM
I played the game this morning. I thought it was decent. I'll wait for a price drop. I liked how many models it could put on screen at once and it did look good in HD. I'm not the type to play thse type of hack and slash games, to me they get boring after a while. I also hated the camera.
Maynard
07-29-2006, 06:25 PM
This will be on the MS retail training website wait for it there guys.
I'll get it when I can finder under $30. I wonder if the Microsoft Retail site will have it soon. Just checked its not there.
Hadn't thought of that... If they have it available, then that's how I'll get it. Other than that, I don't think I'd pay more than $30ish.
orntar
07-29-2006, 06:51 PM
what retail site are you guys talking about? is there some kind of benefit to using it?
DT778
07-29-2006, 08:33 PM
demo was fun but I don't think I'll be buying this.
megabadd
07-29-2006, 08:57 PM
Having never played any Dynasty Warriors game (I'm a freak, I know), I really enjoyed the N3 demo. I probably won't pick it up at full price, but I know I'll be playing it through eventually.
I didn't like the cam at first, but I got used to it eventually.
DesertEagleXIX
07-29-2006, 09:10 PM
I can't get in the MS retail training site anymore. Is it still working for most people?
nevermind, working now.
asianxcore
07-29-2006, 09:14 PM
I wish my download speed for demos didn't suck ass. :(
I have my pre-order down for this at EB, so I guess I'll wait until then.
I got a 4,200-hit combo. Is that supposed to be fun? Because... it wasn't.
coolsteel
07-29-2006, 10:44 PM
I'm hoping the final version cleans up a few things, soliders were doing victory cheers while a handful of goblins were still alive and hacking at them. They also don't appear to be very good at killing grunts, they just act as human shields for the commanders. I wouldn't be paying 60 for it but 40 and under and i'll pick it up.
Stingermck
07-29-2006, 11:07 PM
Just played it, yeah it kills DW. Also considering the last Dw i played was psp... Killied 2,000+ before i died, pretty cool. Too bad its not a 2 player co-op.
And for the $40 or less crowd, Outpost.com has it for $39.99 with free shipping. Also Dead Rising $48.88
LinkinPrime
07-29-2006, 11:25 PM
Just played it, yeah it kills DW. Also considering the last Dw i played was psp... Killied 2,000+ before i died, pretty cool. Too bad its not a 2 player co-op.
And for the $40 or less crowd, Outpost.com has it for $39.99 with free shipping. Also Dead Rising $48.88
I was about to post this, infact I just posted it on the deals forum:
http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4869400
Zoglog
07-30-2006, 05:56 AM
well I thought the game was pretty damn fun. Only beef I have really so far is that travel between parts could be faster. Horse would help.
As far as the gameplay goes, I don't know why people expected it to be anything other than what it is. Honestly i'd take this game over any stupid 3D Mario Platformer anyday.
Apossum
07-30-2006, 10:15 AM
As far as the gameplay goes, I don't know why people expected it to be anything other than what it is. Honestly i'd take this game over any stupid 3D Mario Platformer anyday.
because Q entertainment was involved and even though it isn't like their other games, it just doesn't live up to the quality I'd expect from them. After my first 2 playthroughs I was excited, but after the next ones I realized it's fun but it's kind of a mess.
it's totally random when you die, but the enemys are generally so easy. Then, when you occasionally run into one of those armored goblins that knows how to fight, it becomes obvious how messed up the game is--you can sit there attacking it constantly and barely get in a hit, but it can just attack you whenever it feels like it and nearly kill you, since you can't cancel your moves into blocking. Meanwhile, arrows randomly fly on to the screen and finish you off. Since you don't have an open view, you can't anticipate them and they finish the job that the unhittable goblins couldn't do. that's crap.
in short, it's a cheap as hell and not in the good way. and in a stupid Mario platformer, you know when you hit something it dies and you know when you die, it's your own fault and not poor design ;)
karsh
07-30-2006, 10:17 AM
The only things that ever got anywhere close to killing me were those damned archers. And I think that's mostly cause they launched like 100 arrows at me at a time.
ZForce
07-30-2006, 10:34 AM
Coming from a huge DW freak, I wasn't really impressed with this. With the DW series, there's a modicum of strategy and tactics that come at the higher levels of playing it due to the varied arsenal of each character. With this game, I felt like I could beat it by just spinning the analog stick in random directions, and mashing the attack buttons into the floor. (Yes I know detractors of the DW series call it a mindless button masher as well, but it's MUCH more pronounced in this game to me)
OGHowie
07-30-2006, 02:15 PM
Damn, this game was boring as hell. The combo counter is pretty ridiculous. I couldn't even finish the demo.
Sarang01
08-04-2006, 06:13 PM
Well I have the import and first some clarifications in case you'd been misinformed about the Asian version.
The big one, this is SUBTITLED and not for Chinese dialogue, but the Japanese. Whoever said it was in Chinese for dialogue hasn't heard Chinese. Second, so far I have noticed almost no bugs. I just finished Inphyy's mission and have seen no problems so far. The ONLY thing I'm wondering that people are bitching about, maybe not all achievements register? I know eNCHANT arM had this problem. I'm now on Myefee's adventure. Oh and just a word of warning, it doesn't seem like the save system builds. What I mean by this is I think each character needs a separate save file. I may be wrong but I just wrote over Inphyy's and don't seem to be able to reaccess all the missions.
I'll agree with the button masher comments but at least the dialogue sounds better than DW and probably has a better story although maybe the English translation and VA's Koei hires for DW are just shitty.
D4rkN1ght
08-04-2006, 09:00 PM
didnt like it.. it was fun killing thousands of guys but just got boring