My friend was caught shoplifting...

[Nealocus123]

Today at Target my best friend was caught shoplifting several DS and GBA games worth over $100. They took him back into the store and left me and my other friend to wait in the car for him. We didn't know what would happen so we did wait, then as time went on we left because we found out he had somehow got home. Here's what I know...

He was arrested and taken down to the police station, and words were said about juvenile prision becuase he is 17. This is my main question, and this is seriously affecting my life and others so please, be honest, nice, and truthful.

Know this before answering
1) He has been going to extremely popular, well off private schools since Kindergarden. Thats K, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th...etc...12, going on 13 years of pure private Catholic school.
2) Has a steady job, g/f, and a G.P.A. of about 3.0.
3) Is a all around good kid who got mixed up.

Now my real question. What do you think will happen to him, will he really go to Juvenile prision? Community service?

Please be honest and well informed, don't just put what you think you might know from TV or movies. Thanks

[RedvsBlue]

First offense? I doubt he'll recieve any type of juvenile detention sentence. The whole point of our juvenile justice system is to keep kids out of it and the adult system. He'll likely recieve a community service sentence and perhaps some type of counciling or support group for theft, although that part's not very likely. Then again, he could end up with a real hardass for a judge so its difficult to say with certainty what will happen to him.

[Nealocus123]

Yes, first offense, thanks for the input, sort of a relief.

[RedvsBlue]

Yes, first offense, thanks for the input, sort of a relief.

Just don't see it as him getting off light. If it continues to be a problem, they will drop the hammer on him at some point.

[Nealocus123]

He im sure is scared out of his mind, it won't happen again.

[Moxio]

First offense will probably be okay. Like RvB said, probably community service. But tell him that if this continues he'll get nailed, and no judge will buy any of that "He's a good kid" bullshit. This is life.

[camoor]

17? Man, is he lucky. A few more months and it would have been much more serious.

Luckily for him, we live in a country where you are considered a 'boy' until well into your adulthood - heck you can't even toast your country until you are 3 years further along.

[mykevermin]

17? Man, is he lucky. A few more months and it would have been much more serious.

$100. Hardly. Now, if it was $100 of a controlled substance, and not video games, you may be onto something.

Luckily for him, we live in a country where you are considered a 'boy' until well into your adulthood - heck you can't even toast your country until you are 3 years further along.

Of the 1.2 million state and federal inmates in this country, roughly 0.1 to 0.2% are 17 and younger. That translates to 12,000 to 24,000 inmates, nationwide, under the age of 17 in "adult" institutions. I urge you to rethink your above claim, or find something to support it.

My question to the OP is this: is he white?

[GuilewasNK]

My question to the OP is this: is he white?

I hate to admit it, but that's the first thing I thought of. It shouldn't matter, but in regard to things like this it more often than not does.

Also...

1) He has been going to extremely popular, well off private schools since Kindergarden. Thats K, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th...etc...12, going on 13 years of pure private Catholic school.

He'll get a break of some kind. He probably has plenty of people to vouch for his character, and going to well-off schools = influence.

[mykevermin]

going to well-off schools = influence.

That *PLUS* being white = 30 hours community service, or a 30 day suspended sentence, meaning he'd only serve time if he does another misdemeanor in the next 2 years or so.

Class and race make a big factor in first-time offenses, regretfully. White trash fends a little better than black trash, but white-collar private school kids of either race do better than blue-collar folks.

EDIT: The OP implicitly admits as much, by citing his GPA and the fact that he attended private school his whole life. Are we to assume that, if he went to public school, he should receive a harsher sentence, or that he's a hardened delinquent? Or, should we focus on the criminal event itself, instead of your phony contexts (steady job notwithstanding) that try to position your friend as a "good kid" rather than a "juvenile delinquent" (who, we are to assume by your traits listed above, includes everyone who goes to public school and/or has a sub-3.0 GPA)?

[Mookyjooky]

I did the same thing at 17, my "Whiteness" got me 60 hours community service.

But I also laughed on the stand.

[mykevermin]

But I also laughed on the stand.

Context, please. Did we have a playful judge making jokes, or were we laughing at something we shouldn't have, thus showing a lack of remorse that will easily impact the decision you get?

[WhipSmartBanky]

Today at Target my best friend was caught shoplifting several DS and GBA games worth over $100. They took him back into the store and left me and my other friend to wait in the car for him. We didn't know what would happen so we did wait, then as time went on we left because we found out he had somehow got home. Here's what I know...

He was arrested and taken down to the police station, and words were said about juvenile prision becuase he is 17. This is my main question, and this is seriously affecting my life and others so please, be honest, nice, and truthful.

Know this before answering
1) He has been going to extremely popular, well off private schools since Kindergarden. Thats K, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th...etc...12, going on 13 years of pure private Catholic school.
2) Has a steady job, g/f, and a G.P.A. of about 3.0.
3) Is a all around good kid who got mixed up.

Now my real question. What do you think will happen to him, will he really go to Juvenile prision? Community service?

Please be honest and well informed, don't just put what you think you might know from TV or movies. Thanks
Seriously affecting your life? Oh wait...this is one of THOSE "my friend" stories.

[coltyhuxx]

Seriously affecting your life? Oh wait...this is one of THOSE "my friend" stories.

Ahhh... the wheel turns... however slowly :)

[camoor]

Of the 1.2 million state and federal inmates in this country, roughly 0.1 to 0.2% are 17 and younger. That translates to 12,000 to 24,000 inmates, nationwide, under the age of 17 in "adult" institutions. I urge you to rethink your above claim, or find something to support it.

I know this - the guy said he is in private school, christian, blah blah blah. He's not going to "pound in the ass" prison.

There are double standards for kids in rich areas vs poor areas, something that goes beyond rich people having better lawyers and unequivical legislation.

[coltyhuxx]

Nonetheless, you, I mean your friend, might want to start doing asshole strengthening exercises...

[David85]

Seriously affecting your life? Oh wait...this is one of THOSE "my friend" stories.

I think they are "good friends" and he doesn't want anyone else fucknig his friend if he goes to "jail".

Your friend is a dumbfuck and I hope gets the worse. Did you just stand there as he stole them? Because if you did you both should go to "jail" and then you can fuck him as much as you want.

But it sounds like he's a rich white boy so he should be fine.

[Nealocus123]

I talked to him today and he said that Target wants to try him as an adult, and that he was convicted of premeditated shoplifting which is considered burglury which is a felony, what do you guys think of this? Just big talk by Target employees?

No, he is 1/2 Filipino 1/2 Caucasian

Look, and if you dont have something fucking nice to say or helpful, then shut the fuck up and stay out of this thread. Yes it is MY friend, and yes it affects my life because my best friend might go to fucking jail you asshole. So seriously, if you don't have something that could help me out then just shut the fuck up, your not impressing anyone with your smartass remarks.

[Nealocus123]

That *PLUS* being white = 30 hours community service, or a 30 day suspended sentence, meaning he'd only serve time if he does another misdemeanor in the next 2 years or so.

Class and race make a big factor in first-time offenses, regretfully. White trash fends a little better than black trash, but white-collar private school kids of either race do better than blue-collar folks.

EDIT: The OP implicitly admits as much, by citing his GPA and the fact that he attended private school his whole life. Are we to assume that, if he went to public school, he should receive a harsher sentence, or that he's a hardened delinquent? Or, should we focus on the criminal event itself, instead of your phony contexts (steady job notwithstanding) that try to position your friend as a "good kid" rather than a "juvenile delinquent" (who, we are to assume by your traits listed above, includes everyone who goes to public school and/or has a sub-3.0 GPA)?

I'm just listing everything that I know about him that might catch him a break. I don't know about Jail or trial hearings, therefore I made this thread to ask about what the fuck is going to happen. So I just listed everything that made him a good kid. Get off your power train and leave the thread if your not going to list something helpful for me.

[judyjudyjudy]

I'm just listing everything that I know about him that might catch him a break. I don't know about Jail or trial hearings, therefore I made this thread to ask about what the fuck is going to happen. So I just listed everything that made him a good kid. Get off your power train and leave the thread if your not going to list something helpful for me.I'm confused... Aren't you pretty much agreeing with him? And he answered your question, which I would think is relevant and helpful.

[Brak]

If you didn't want people to be objective... then why did you post this in the Politics and Controversy board?

[mykevermin]

If you didn't want people to be objective... then why did you post this in the Politics and Controversy board?

Have you READ the Politics and Controversy board? :lol:

Anyway, OP, I offered you advice. If you don't like what I say, or what to discount my expertise, feel free. Remember, though, that just because I may not say what you want to hear, that doesn't mean it isn't true. If you want to turn a blind eye to reality, be my guest. That helps a lot of people not kill themselves from day to day.

OTOH, if you want to reread what I have to say, and accept the fact that upper-class white boys (and let's be fair - he's half filipino, but does he "look like it," or does he have a "nonwhite" last name? Trust me, being white does have its priviliges. You can hide your head in the sand all you want - it doesn't change the real world to do that, though.

If he wants to save his ass, he should promote the prosocial things he does - I don't mean the things that upper-class white folks get (a private school education, for example), but perhaps school clubs, Boy Scouts, local community involvement, etc? That's your best bet - but you never know, you could get a judge who sees your well-off friend as the kind of person to make an example of.

I don't believe Target is flapping their gums - premeditation *can* make it a felony, but the dollar amount stolen is low (unless you aren't being truthful or honestly don't know the amount), and premeditation can't be proven. Tell us more about the incident itself - did he plan on stealing games? Is it evident the way you slowly drift around the store, only to scamper by the games, jam them in his waistband, and hurry out the door? That shit's on camera, you know.

Tell us more about it. And keep your shit-talking to yourself, unless you want me to deliberately give you bad advice to take to court.

[Nealocus123]

Well I figure this is a serious subject and I don't understand why people can't take it that way. If you think I'm a crying bitch, you know so be it, but for once just leave it behind and don't add your smartass comment, that's all I'm asking.

And I poseted it here because I couldn't find a off-topic forum.

[Nealocus123]

Have you READ the Politics and Controversy board? :lol:

Anyway, OP, I offered you advice. If you don't like what I say, or what to discount my expertise, feel free. Remember, though, that just because I may not say what you want to hear, that doesn't mean it isn't true. If you want to turn a blind eye to reality, be my guest. That helps a lot of people not kill themselves from day to day.

OTOH, if you want to reread what I have to say, and accept the fact that upper-class white boys (and let's be fair - he's half filipino, but does he "look like it," or does he have a "nonwhite" last name? Trust me, being white does have its priviliges. You can hide your head in the sand all you want - it doesn't change the real world to do that, though.

If he wants to save his ass, he should promote the prosocial things he does - I don't mean the things that upper-class white folks get (a private school education, for example), but perhaps school clubs, Boy Scouts, local community involvement, etc? That's your best bet - but you never know, you could get a judge who sees your well-off friend as the kind of person to make an example of.

I don't believe Target is flapping their gums - premeditation *can* make it a felony, but the dollar amount stolen is low (unless you aren't being truthful or honestly don't know the amount), and premeditation can't be proven. Tell us more about the incident itself - did he plan on stealing games? Is it evident the way you slowly drift around the store, only to scamper by the games, jam them in his waistband, and hurry out the door? That shit's on camera, you know.

Tell us more about it. And keep your shit-talking to yourself, unless you want me to deliberately give you bad advice to take to court.
Thanks, that helped a lot, sorry if I freaked out, just I'm scared for my friend.

We didn't plan on taking anything, we went to look at clearnace and they just had DS games laying there. So he said it would be easy, I didn't want to get in trouble so me and my other buddy walked away to a different isle. And just to clarify, everything I've said is honest, because I want a honest answer so...

And I dunno if this has anything to do with it, but they were totally remodeling the Target, new escalators, isles, etc. The roof was totally gone with random wires hanging down so he didn't think there would be a camera. So I'm not 100% sure if they caught him on camera. He told me they followed him around and picked up the empty boxes as he tossed them aside.

He does look more filipino than white, but has a very white last name.

[Brak]

Well I figure this is a serious subject and I don't understand why people can't take it that way. If you think I'm a crying bitch, you know so be it, but for once just leave it behind and don't add your smartass comment, that's all I'm asking.

And I poseted it here because I couldn't find a off-topic forum.
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=12

Also, people can post whatever they want. Get over it.

[mykevermin]

So you weren't witness to what he took? If they let you two walk, that certainly makes sense.

Any idea what all he took? Sounds like he was opening game cases, yanking the cart out, and tossing the cases aside. That lends a lot to the premeditation argument, as people don't spontaneously or accidentally open up containers in stores, only to remove the contents.

You and your friend walking away from him also doesn't look good (not on you, but on him) - as if you knew he was up to something and wanted to stay away.

[Brak]

Where was he nabbed? Deep inside the store, outside or near the exit?

If I remember correctly, it's only shoplifting once you step outside the doors, or a clear cashier checkout area.

[Nealocus123]

We were completely outside the store.

[Nealocus123]

So you weren't witness to what he took? If they let you two walk, that certainly makes sense.

Any idea what all he took? Sounds like he was opening game cases, yanking the cart out, and tossing the cases aside. That lends a lot to the premeditation argument, as people don't spontaneously or accidentally open up containers in stores, only to remove the contents.

You and your friend walking away from him also doesn't look good (not on you, but on him) - as if you knew he was up to something and wanted to stay away.

He took 3 DS games clearanced and 2 GBA clearanced games. We did walk away but we just went to play on the XBox 360, so I dunno if that makes it look better worse.

[Brak]

Shoplifting laws often consider shoplifting to be a misdemeanor petty theft if the value of the stolen goods totals less than $300 to $500. In some cases, first time offenders may have a chance at getting charged with a lesser crime such as disorderly conduct. When an offender has a history of shoplifting or the value of the stolen goods exceeds this amount, shoplifting laws often yield harsher penalties. An offender can be charged with grand theft or larceny, both of which are felony crimes. Under shoplifting laws, a person who is convicted of this crime may receive a sentence that includes jail or prison time, punitive fines, community service, and/or other penalties.

[Nealocus123]

Shoplifting laws often consider shoplifting to be a misdemeanor petty theft if the value of the stolen goods totals less than $300 to $500. In some cases, first time offenders may have a chance at getting charged with a lesser crime such as disorderly conduct. When an offender has a history of shoplifting or the value of the stolen goods exceeds this amount, shoplifting laws often yield harsher penalties. An offender can be charged with grand theft or larceny, both of which are felony crimes. Under shoplifting laws, a person who is convicted of this crime may receive a sentence that includes jail or prison time, punitive fines, community service, and/or other penalties.

I saw that exact thing too, so why would they threaten him with jail time and an adult trial?

BTW: I live in CA if that matters, San Diego area.

[mykevermin]

He took 3 DS games clearanced and 2 GBA clearanced games. We did walk away but we just went to play on the XBox 360, so I dunno if that makes it look better worse.

You could surely plea down if that's the case.

[Brak]

I saw that exact thing too, so why would they threaten him with jail time and an adult trial?

BTW: I live in CA if that matters, San Diego area.
Because people with false authority love to scare the shit out of people.

[Pookymeister]

Here's the way i see it(and i'm sure there are things the OP left out) :

-You and your friend walked away because you thought he was going to steal and didn't want to be a part of it.
-Now your life is in jeopardy because your best friend might go to jail

Maybe the lesson learned here is to be a little more forthright next time, like saying "Hey buddy, stealing is wrong"

[Brak]

I'm trying to dig back to the Kmart wisdom of my part-time job a couple of years ago...

I think since your friend made it outside, he was actually homefree. If the secuirty guard, or whoever, asked him to step back inside, he did that so your buddy would have the stolen goods back in their property.

I believe that parking lots don't count as their personal property, in most cases.

There are a lot of weird loopholes with this stuff... but, basically, I think they needed your friend back inside in order to bust him.

Don't quote me.

[Pookymeister]

I'm trying to dig back to the Kmart wisdom of my part-time job a couple of years ago...

I think since your friend made it outside, he was actually homefree. If the secuirty guard, or whoever, asked him to step back inside, he did that so your buddy would have the stolen goods back in their property.

I believe that parking lots don't count as their personal property, in most cases.

So what about stores that put out sidewalk displays? Free pickings? :)

[Brak]

So what about stores that put out sidewalk displays? Free pickings? :)
The sidewalk is a part of the propery, since they aren't structured like public sidewalks (assuming they're not public sidewalks, to begin with).

When I used to work at Kmart, sidewalk sale shit would get robbed ALL the time.

[Nealocus123]

1) We went through the mall exit, so I dunno if that matters at all, but I do know it was Target security that took him.

2) I know I should have spoke up, but he seemed so sure and I mean with the construction going on it seemed easy. I'm hating myself every minute because I just wish I could have REALLY stood up to him and none of this would be happening.

[camoor]

1) We went through the mall exit, so I dunno if that matters at all, but I do know it was Target security that took him.

2) I know I should have spoke up, but he seemed so sure and I mean with the construction going on it seemed easy. I'm hating myself every minute because I just wish I could have REALLY stood up to him and none of this would be happening.

Nah, you did the right thing by walking away.

I bet your friend is stupider then you realize. He could have dragged you right into the crime, even if you were just trying to stop it. For more serious transgressions, people can get put in jail for years just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time - it doesn't take much extra evidence to get charged as an "accessory".

[bmulligan]

Well I figure this is a serious subject and I don't understand why people can't take it that way. If you think I'm a crying bitch, you know so be it, but for once just leave it behind and don't add your smartass comment, that's all I'm asking.

And I poseted it here because I couldn't find a off-topic forum.

Here's the correct forum:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=25 (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=12)

It really wasn't that hard to find. It says "Off Topic"

[Nealocus123]

Here's the correct forum:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=25 (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=12)

It really wasn't that hard to find. It says "Off Topic"

It's been pointed out. Thanks.

[Mookyjooky]

Context, please. Did we have a playful judge making jokes, or were we laughing at something we shouldn't have, thus showing a lack of remorse that will easily impact the decision you get?

I laughed cause I stuffed the T-shirt in my pants and when the security guard took my picture for the judge I had an Adidas shirt hanging out my pants while giving two thumbs up and the dumbest smile.

I laughed when I saw the pic and the judge looked at me.

When he asked if I thought it was funny, I said "Just look again at the pic"

[David85]

I talked to him today and he said that Target wants to try him as an adult, and that he was convicted of premeditated shoplifting which is considered burglury which is a felony, what do you guys think of this? Just big talk by Target employees?

No, he is 1/2 Filipino 1/2 Caucasian

Look, and if you dont have something fucking nice to say or helpful, then shut the fuck up and stay out of this thread. Yes it is MY friend, and yes it affects my life because my best friend might go to fucking jail you asshole. So seriously, if you don't have something that could help me out then just shut the fuck up, your not impressing anyone with your smartass remarks.


Someone has fucking and assholes on the mind. I think it's time to find a new asshole to fuck because your old fuck buddy is going to be used meat.

And I am being helpful. First you need to find someone else to fuck, and second you really need some new friends because it's obvious you have bad taste. So he's a dumbass and should go to jail so why are you friends with him? Does he really have that nice of an ass or are you a fat piece of shit that can't get any from someone better?

[Brak]

I laughed cause I stuffed the T-shirt in my pants and when the security guard took my picture for the judge I had an Adidas shirt hanging out my pants while giving two thumbs up and the dumbest smile.

I laughed when I saw the pic and the judge looked at me.

When he asked if I thought it was funny, I said "Just look again at the pic"
Did the jury laugh when you said "pic" in court?

[Nealocus123]

Someone has fucking and assholes on the mind. I think it's time to find a new asshole to fuck because your old fuck buddy is going to be used meat.

And I am being helpful. First you need to find someone else to fuck, and second you really need some new friends because it's obvious you have bad taste. So he's a dumbass and should go to jail so why are you friends with him? Does he really have that nice of an ass or are you a fat piece of shit that can't get any from someone better?
What are you, 13yrs old? I'm sure that one of your friends has or will shoplift at some point in there lives. 25% of shoplifters are kids 18 and younger, that's 1 in every 4. Just because my friend made a mistake means I should totally abandon him? You sir sound like a very shity friend, what happens when your friend gets caught cheating or stealing and gets in trouble? Your probably going to run away and not look back.

And secondly, whats up with me fucking my friend? You got that from me being scared for him going to jail? Get a fucking clue you twat, if your best friend went to jail and you never saw him, how would you feel?

BTW This thread can be closed
He was sentanced to 50hrs of community service and a $347.43 fine. And to all of you who helped I really appreciate it. It means a lot that you guys can help someone you don't even know feel better. Thanks again guys.

[mykevermin]

I was off by 20 hours, but really, the homie got a break. I don't see anything wrong with community service, and that $350 is probably being paid for by mom and dad, who are gonna (with any luck) make sure his ass remunerates them for it.

In the end, if it keeps him from stealing discount (or any, really) games in the future, then all is kosher. Nothing like a justice system that manages to work (even if it could have worked with a lesser decision).

[David85]

What are you, 13yrs old? I'm sure that one of your friends has or will shoplift at some point in there lives. 25% of shoplifters are kids 18 and younger, that's 1 in every 4. Just because my friend made a mistake means I should totally abandon him? You sir sound like a very shity friend, what happens when your friend gets caught cheating or stealing and gets in trouble? Your probably going to run away and not look back.

And secondly, whats up with me fucking my friend? You got that from me being scared for him going to jail? Get a fucking clue you twat, if your best friend went to jail and you never saw him, how would you feel?

BTW This thread can be closed
He was sentanced to 50hrs of community service and a $347.43 fine. And to all of you who helped I really appreciate it. It means a lot that you guys can help someone you don't even know feel better. Thanks again guys.

So did you have to pay for the sex? Is that how he paid the fine?

And no I don't know anyone who stole loads of video games. I don't know anyone that stole anything after the age of ten. Cousins and a friend or two stole a piece of gum or candy when they were like 5, that's it.

Have fun fucking your friend tonight, I'm sure it's well worth the wait.

[HumanSnatcher]

Suprised that no one mentioned that if it were at Wal Mart he most likely would have gotten away with it...

[mykevermin]

So did you have to pay for the sex? Is that how he paid the fine?

And no I don't know anyone who stole loads of video games. I don't know anyone that stole anything after the age of ten. Cousins and a friend or two stole a piece of gum or candy when they were like 5, that's it.

Have fun fucking your friend tonight, I'm sure it's well worth the wait.

Funny that you vehemently deny knowing someone who stole something, yet you troll threads assuming everybody sticks their cock in other people's asses the way you do. I don't disagree with the notion that many people have far more homosexual tendencies than they'd care to admit (or even recognize themselves), but that doesn't give you carte blanche to be a total shitneck about it.

OP, if you really want this thread closed/deleted, contact a moderator.

EDIT: Snatch, did you see a news piece a few weeks back about WM starting a policy of not prosecuting for thefts below $25? :lol:

[camoor]

BTW This thread can be closed
He was sentanced to 50hrs of community service and a $347.43 fine. And to all of you who helped I really appreciate it. It means a lot that you guys can help someone you don't even know feel better. Thanks again guys.

Did he have to pay the store anything? You know - for the time and trouble of catching this criminal?

[CocheseUGA]

Someone has fucking and assholes on the mind. I think it's time to find a new asshole to fuck because your old fuck buddy is going to be used meat.

And I am being helpful. First you need to find someone else to fuck, and second you really need some new friends because it's obvious you have bad taste. So he's a dumbass and should go to jail so why are you friends with him? Does he really have that nice of an ass or are you a fat piece of shit that can't get any from someone better?

This is usually what you hear from closeted homosexuals who are to afraid to come out because they would be embarrased.

[Yusuke-Urameshi-]

2) I know I should have spoke up, but he seemed so sure and I mean with the construction going on it seemed easy. I'm hating myself every minute because I just wish I could have REALLY stood up to him and none of this would be happening.
Am I the only one that read that as the OP thinks it's okay to steal as long as you don't get caught? So if it's easy to steal something, you should take it?

[camoor]

Am I the only one that read that as the OP thinks it's okay to steal as long as you don't get caught? So if it's easy to steal something, you should take it?

That's the new motto in America - win at all costs.

Big business takes it to heart - Walmart and other discount chains hire mass amounts of illegal immigrants. Indirectly, Walmart and other discount stores hire slave and child labor in China.

The only way you can keep people or corporations honest is by just legislation and active enforcement.

The only difference between an individual and the corporation is that the individual doesn't have the power to bribe the executive branch to look the other way.

[HumanSnatcher]

EDIT: Snatch, did you see a news piece a few weeks back about WM starting a policy of not prosecuting for thefts below $25? :lol:

You've got to be shitting me!

[GuilewasNK]

Nealocus123, if someone is bothering you here all you have to do is put them on your ignore list. It's in the User CP.

You can also just click on a persons name, go to view profile, then click on "add to ignore list".

[DarkNessBear]

So did you have to pay for the sex? Is that how he paid the fine?

And no I don't know anyone who stole loads of video games. I don't know anyone that stole anything after the age of ten. Cousins and a friend or two stole a piece of gum or candy when they were like 5, that's it.

Have fun fucking your friend tonight, I'm sure it's well worth the wait.
I want to make you a shirt that says, "Friendless Virgin"

[David85]

This is usually what you hear from closeted homosexuals who are to afraid to come out because they would be embarrased.

Ummm..... I am gay, but thanks for trying! Maybe I'm reallt a closet hetrosexual!

[niceguyshawne]

Ummm..... I am gay, but thanks for trying! Maybe I'm reallt a closet hetrosexual!


Granted, I never had a friend that I cared as much about as the OP does for his, but your posts were entirely inappropriate.

To the OP, I hope that your friend learned his lesson.

[PKRipp3r]

too bad all three of you aren't in jail

fucking punk ass little thieving bitches

[David85]

too bad all three of you aren't in jail

fucking punk ass little thieving bitches


IAWTC

[PKRipp3r]

IAWTC
http://www.keystoneblind.org/wiseweb/images/kauf3.gif

[Nealocus123]

Am I the only one that read that as the OP thinks it's okay to steal as long as you don't get caught? So if it's easy to steal something, you should take it?

You know your right, I did probably think it woulda been okay this one time so I laid back. But it only took once for the hammer to fall down and teach us a lesson. I was freaked out by my friend getting caught, and I can only imagine how scared I would feel.

[Nealocus123]

Nealocus123, if someone is bothering you here all you have to do is put them on your ignore list. It's in the User CP.

You can also just click on a persons name, go to view profile, then click on "add to ignore list".
Thanks, didn't know you could do this >.<

[GuilewasNK]

Thanks, didn't know you could do this >.<

No problem. Glad to help.

[Fire]

too bad all three of you aren't in jail

fucking punk ass little thieving bitches
QFT!!! If I was a judge in such a situation jail for him, and possibly you guys with no questions asked.

[Yusuke-Urameshi-]

You know your right, I did probably think it woulda been okay this one time so I laid back. But it only took once for the hammer to fall down and teach us a lesson. I was freaked out by my friend getting caught, and I can only imagine how scared I would feel.
That's a brilliant philosophy. Do whatever you want til you get caught. Say I murdered one of your friends/family. Is that okay? As long as I don't get caught I could steal, murder, sell drugs, whatever until someone catches me, right?
All of you should go to jail, since it seems like you would've stole even if your friend hadn't because Hey! It should be easy! Who cares if there's just a stupid law against it? I can do whatever the hell I want! There are very few legitimate reasons to steal and you show none of them. If your friend is so rich he could have easily bought the games, avoided breaking a law, avoided causing trouble to the police, avoided troubling security, avoided employees getting in trouble because of stolen goods. All of you are assholes.

[FrankySox]

Well I've had an experience with a friend of mine getting caught. He got caught stealing four games from Shopko, had some pot in his pocket, and tried to flee from the people in Shopko who catch you. Anyways to make a long story short he got a lawyer got the possesion charge dropped, and had to pay a ten dollar fine for the shoplifting. Apparently his lawyer was good or he was very lucky. For a first offense there is NO WAY IN HELL he's going to jail. Jails are filled up with criminals not shoplifters.

[mykevermin]

You've got to be shitting me!

Report: Wal-Mart loosens shoplifting policy
No. 1 retailer will only press charges if shoplifters take at least $25, in change to zero-tolerance policy.
July 13 2006: 7:22 AM EDT

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Wal-Mart is moving away from what it called a zero-tolerance policy on prosecuting shoplifters and will now only prosecute anyone caught taking merchandise worth $25 or more, according to a published report.

TheNew York Times reports the change in policy, citing internal documents from Wal-Mart that say it will now only press charges against those between the ages of 18 and 64 who take at least $25 worth of goods. Formerly its policy was to press charges against anyone who took at least $3 in goods.

The paper said the change in policy will allow Wal-Mart to concentrate on theft by professional shoplifters and its own employees. The paper said those two groups steal the bulk of merchandise from the chain.

"If I have somebody being paid $12 an hour processing a $5 theft, I have just lost money," J. P. Suarez, who is in charge of asset protection at Wal-Mart, told the paper. "I have also lost the time to catch somebody stealing $100 or an organized group stealing $3,000."

Wal-Mart told the paper it would closely track shoplifters it did not have arrested, and would ask that they be prosecuted after a second incident. It will also seek the prosecution of all suspected shoplifters who threaten violence or fail to produce identification, no matter how much they are trying to steal, according to the report, which said professional shoplifters often do not carry ID in order to avoid arrest.

The change will also put the company's policy in line with most of its major competitors.

The paper said that the change also will answer complaints of small-town police departments across the country who have protested the previous zero-tolerance policy. At some stores police were making up to six arrests a day, according to the report, which said some departments had to hire extra officers just to handle the Wal-Mart arrests.

The paper said it was given the documents detailing the new policy by WakeUpWalMart.com, an anti-Wal-Mart group that told the paper it received the documents from a former employee at the chain who is unhappy with the new policy.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/13/news/companies/walmart_shoplifters/index.htm

[Sarang01]

You know I'm really disappointed and disgusted with you David. You use to be cool, now you're just a trolling ass.
edit: If you really like acting like an asshole and idiot perhaps you'd fit right in with the tards at TNL. Apologies for all the cool people at TNL as I know you exist but there are also some of the biggest ASSHOLES on your board too.