My 500$ gaming PC

[Furashu]

OK THIS IS THE FINAL BUILD I WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING!!! FOR ALL OF U WHO WANT TO SPEND UNDER 550 THIS IS YOUR PC!
UPDATED AUGUST 11,2006

ASUS M2NPV-VM Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6150 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131014

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Orleans 2000MHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103633

Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3160812A 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148103

CORSAIR XMS2 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit System Memory -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145566

FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX450-PN, 12cm FAN, version 2.0, 2 SATA, PCI Express, 450W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104954

FINAL PRICE WITH TAX AND SHIPPING = $417.34
I AM REUSING A CASE SO I SAVE SOME MONEY AND MY GOAL FOR A GRAPHICS CARD IS THIS

SAPPHIRE 100106L Radeon X850XT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102688

or
eVGA 256-P2-N541-TX Geforce 7600GS 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130020

WITH THAT VIDEO CARD THE TOTAL IS......
$548.28 WITH TAX AND SHIPPING
IF U ARE NOT FROM CA SUBTRACT $36.07 (total would be $512.57) wow great


WHAT I PREVIOUSLY CHOSE!

well i decided on what i wanted by spending under 500 dollars
Please dont tell me "save up 900 dollars because this stuff will be obsolete"
i have been using a garbage computer and plan on using this comp for 2 years until new CPUs/GPUs/Mobos come out and by then ill have more then enough
i currently have a i845 MSI with a pentium 4 with stock everything!
if i could get 800 dollars i would but i cant cause i have no job*(im a teen!)
i already have OS and moniter,mouse,keyboard

this is what ive chosen

AMD athlon 64 3500+ Am2 Socket 89$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103633

BIOSTAR TForce 6100 AM2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro 75$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138027

Western Digital Caviar RE WD1600YD 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136009) 67$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136009

1GB GSKILL RAM - $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231085

PSU 400w 42$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104953

APEX midtower 350w 31$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811154054

for the graphics card im willing to wait on it because i only have around 400 right now
the total for the above comes out to 389$ w/out tax/shipping
if there area any better things for cheaper or things i should change please tell me

[Full_Throttle]

Nice. I am spending $900 on my gaming PC, and I am a teen as well. The way I got money is by taking care of neighbors' dogs and houses while they were on vacation. You still have some time to make money in the summer! Quick! Go mow some lawns! You can make $200 in a week!

As for the graphics card, you can check my post titled "Lat PC Building Thread..." Some people posted nice cards for under $100. Check those out.

[Moxio]

Looks okay, but if you want an actual gaming PC that runs modern games decently well, you'll want at LEAST 6600GT. Actually, 6800.

[Furashu]

Nice. I am spending $900 on my gaming PC, and I am a teen as well. The way I got money is by taking care of neighbors' dogs and houses while they were on vacation. You still have some time to make money in the summer! Quick! Go mow some lawns! You can make $200 in a week!

As for the graphics card, you can check my post titled "Lat PC Building Thread..." Some people posted nice cards for under $100. Check those out.
alright ill look in over there well theyre just my blueprints with my current budget

oh yeah is there any cases that dont come with a PSU? since im buying a spare?

[tehweezner]

that's a very good build, you've obviously been doing your research. one thing i'd suggest is beefier psu. i've got a fortron as well and they kick ass, so maybe get the 500w blue storm. also, i'd get a seagate hd just cuz of the 5 yr warranty.

[Furashu]

that's a very good build, you've obviously been doing your research. one thing i'd suggest is beefier psu. i've got a fortron as well and they kick ass, so maybe get the 500w blue storm. also, i'd get a seagate hd just cuz of the 5 yr warranty.

would i even need that much wattage? lol 500 Watts is pretty crazy because im only going for a 80-$110 Graphic card

[menikmati]

You don't need any optical disc drives?

Also, the 400W PSU is fine, I run 3 hard drives, 2 optical drives and a 6800GS (unlocked to 6800GT+) with a 400W PSU.

[Furashu]

You don't need any optical disc drives?

Also, the 400W PSU is fine, I run 3 hard drives, 2 optical drives and a 6800GS (unlocked to 6800GT+) with a 400W PSU.
oh i forgot to mention that
i have a 16x Empirex dvd-r reader/writer that i plan to re-use

well are there cases w/out PSU? because i wanna save money lol

[Michaellvortega]

If you want to pick up my 2 month old HP off me I'll let it go for $600

Windows XP media center
3800+ A64
2GB ram DDr400
200GB SATA drive
DL-light scribe drive
BFG 7600GT OC ::EDIT Forgot to mention video card::
all the good stuff
check my list by clicking the CML icon by my avatar.

[Furashu]

If you want to pick up my 2 month old HP off me I'll let it go for $600

Windows XP media center
3800+ A64
2GB ram DDr400
200GB SATA drive
DL-light scribe drive
all the good stuff
check my list by clicking the CML icon by my avatar.

nah it defeats my purpose of building my first PC
although it is a good deal lol8-) thanks anyways

[mojoman5165]

Why do you need to spend money on a PSU when your case already has one?
I run a P4, x1600 Pro, 2 HDD, and 2 DVD drives with a 350W Antec.

[Furashu]

Why do you need to spend money on a PSU when your case already has one?
I run a P4, x1600 Pro, 2 HDD, and 2 DVD drives with a 350W Antec.

hmm should i just go for a 65$ antec case with 300w/350w?
and drop the case and psu i currently chose?

also whats with this SLI stuff?

[mojoman5165]

You should do that (go with the 350W Antec case for $65). SLI is for dual GPUs but they are for newer cards only, which are in the three to four hundred dollar range.

[Furashu]

You should do that (go with the 350W Antec case for $65). SLI is for dual GPUs but they are for newer cards only, which are in the three to four hundred dollar range.
LOL wow 300/400 bucks for a GPU
okay thanks for the info!

well i searched for ANtec cases with at least 350 W on newegg theyre like 70 dollars + shipping which is a bit too much for me at the moment
are there any other "good" cases that are at least 60 and under?
( i dont know my trusty brands yet)

[SOSTrooper]

Do you live near Fry's? They have an Antec case with 350W PSU for $30 after $40 rebate.

[Furashu]

Do you live near Fry's? They have an Antec case with 350W PSU for $30 after $40 rebate.

wow really? i do! well im not at home haha but in a city with a frys... dam 70 dollars upfront hmmm dont reallly wanna mess with rebates

[lionheart4life]

I think you could do better on the hard drive (and maybe the RAM too). You could at least get a bigger harddrive of the same speed for about that price, however that isn't really bad either. Most Seagate harddrives offer a 5 year warranty which sets them apart from WD. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread for cheap suggestions on things like the video card since I'm looking to build a new computer in the near future for cheap.

[Michaellvortega]

While not gamer ram I got 2 sticks of 1GB PNY ram for $60 a piece with a 30% off coupon at BB

[CocheseUGA]

I bought an Apex SuperCase with a Hercules dual-fan 450w PSU from dealsonic for $63.70 two years ago. Absolutely ZERO problems with it, but unfortunately I can't find it on their site now.

Keep searching, you'll find what you need.

[NoRain]

well i decided on what i wanted by spending under 500 dollars
Please dont tell me "save up 900 dollars because this stuff will be obsolete"
i have been using a garbage computer and plan on using this comp for 2 years until new CPUs/GPUs/Mobos come out and by then ill have more then enough
i currently have a i845 MSI with a pentium 4 with stock everything!
if i could get 800 dollars i would but i cant cause i have no job*(im a teen!)
i already have OS and moniter,mouse,keyboard

this is what ive chosen

AMD athlon 64 3500+ Am2 Socket 89$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103633

BIOSTAR TForce 6100 AM2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro 75$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138027

Western Digital Caviar RE WD1600YD 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136009) 67$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136009

1GB GSKILL RAM - $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231085

PSU 400w 42$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104953

APEX midtower 350w 31$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811154054

for the graphics card im willing to wait on it because i only have around 400 right now
the total for the above comes out to 389$ w/out tax/shipping
if there area any better things for cheaper or things i should change please tell me

Best build I've seen in a while for a non waste of money approach. I woulda bumped up the processor a little bit thou, but seeing as you are on a budget it looks pretty good. You got a dvdrom/burner somewhere right?

[Americanpierg]

well i decided on what i wanted by spending under 500 dollars
Please dont tell me "save up 900 dollars because this stuff will be obsolete"
i have been using a garbage computer and plan on using this comp for 2 years until new CPUs/GPUs/Mobos come out and by then ill have more then enough
i currently have a i845 MSI with a pentium 4 with stock everything!
if i could get 800 dollars i would but i cant cause i have no job*(im a teen!)
i already have OS and moniter,mouse,keyboard

this is what ive chosen

AMD athlon 64 3500+ Am2 Socket 89$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103633

BIOSTAR TForce 6100 AM2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro 75$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138027

Western Digital Caviar RE WD1600YD 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136009) 67$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136009

1GB GSKILL RAM - $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231085

PSU 400w 42$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104953

APEX midtower 350w 31$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811154054

for the graphics card im willing to wait on it because i only have around 400 right now
the total for the above comes out to 389$ w/out tax/shipping
if there area any better things for cheaper or things i should change please tell me

Decent build, although 250gb hard drives can be found for around the same price or maybe 5-10 dollars more, and ditch the psu and use the one that comes with ur case since ur just using onboard video, and thats the only thing ive come across that ever destroys a psu. For that price range, I'd just get a prebuilt system by dell/hp/compaq/etc. that comes with an lcd and extras, then sell the lcd and buy a good graphics card (make sure the prebuilt is upgradable). Dell has a decent system thats 249.99 that can keep up with the one you are building and it also comes with a free 150 dollar lcd monitor.

[CocheseUGA]

Decent build, although 250gb hard drives can be found for around the same price or maybe 5-10 dollars more, and ditch the psu and use the one that comes with ur case since ur just using onboard video, and thats the only thing ive come across that ever destroys a psu. For that price range, I'd just get a prebuilt system by dell/hp/compaq/etc. that comes with an lcd and extras, then sell the lcd and buy a good graphics card (make sure the prebuilt is upgradable). Dell has a decent system thats 249.99 that can keep up with the one you are building and it also comes with a free 150 dollar lcd monitor.

That's the problem. You never know the one or all parts that these companies throw in to fuck that whole plan up.

That's why I built mine myself and have absolutely loved it. If you don't have a monitor or OS, then Dell is cheaper. Otherwise, get to wrenchin'!

[Furashu]

That's the problem. You never know the one or all parts that these companies throw in to fuck that whole plan up.

That's why I built mine myself and have absolutely loved it. If you don't have a monitor or OS, then Dell is cheaper. Otherwise, get to wrenchin'!
well i already got a 17"/20"( dont remember) Nokia LCD i got for free from my sister lol
i dont really care for huge screens or like perfect specs as idrather have a better computer then a LCD 8-)

While not gamer ram I got 2 sticks of 1GB PNY ram for $60 a piece with a 30% off coupon at BB
lol how do u quote multiple people? uh whered u get the 30% off coupon?


To Rain
yeah i got a dvd-burner
and ill look into the 250gb hdd

oh i might go for this amd 3800 am2 socket for 20 dollars more
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103631

thanks for all your replies!

[Furashu]

I think you could do better on the hard drive (and maybe the RAM too). You could at least get a bigger harddrive of the same speed for about that price, however that isn't really bad either. Most Seagate harddrives offer a 5 year warranty which sets them apart from WD. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread for cheap suggestions on things like the video card since I'm looking to build a new computer in the near future for cheap.

well i guess ill put in 10 more dollars for this 250gb seagate HDD

Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3250824AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148111)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010150014+50001305+103530105&Submit=ENE&Manufactory=1305&SubCategory=14


whats OEM?
lol im still lookin for a case
and.... i still need a reccomended GPU under 100 bux:hot:

[SOSTrooper]

OEM means original equipment manufacturer, indicating it does not come with a retail box, only the bare equipment + drivers and manuals. Sometimes you don't even get manuals or softwares. Very often OEM comes with shorter warranty period, but companies such as Seagate didn't skim on warranty for their OEM products.

[mr ryles]

this case is visually good and it comes with a good 450 power supply.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811166017

[Furashu]

OEM means original equipment manufacturer, indicating it does not come with a retail box, only the bare equipment + drivers and manuals. Sometimes you don't even get manuals or softwares. Very often OEM comes with shorter warranty period, but companies such as Seagate didn't skim on warranty for their OEM products.
alright thanks for the info... lol this is my 2nd week into PC hardware
yeah i dont care for retail boxes and crap anyways

this case is visually good and it comes with a good 450 power supply.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811166017
i think ill get that but is that company even reliable? lol looks like a transformer IMO :bouncy:
oh yeah how do i know if a certain case is compatible with my mobo?

[NoRain]

Theres a few form factors. ATX, BTX, microATX, AT. Most stuff is going to be ATX/microATX. Just make sure your motherboard and case both say they accept the same thing. Generally a midtower will take atx/microatx and most motherboards will be ATX or microATX. Generally anything else is older or made for itty bitty HomeTheaterPC's.

[Furashu]

Theres a few form factors. ATX, BTX, microATX, AT. Most stuff is going to be ATX/microATX. Just make sure your motherboard and case both say they accept the same thing. Generally a midtower will take atx/microatx and most motherboards will be ATX or microATX. Generally anything else is older or made for itty bitty HomeTheaterPC's.


alright well the biostart mobo im planning to buy is mirco atx thanks for the help man!

lol still insearch of a good case + PSU combo:bouncy:

[NoRain]

alright well the biostart mobo im planning to buy is mirco atx thanks for the help man!

lol still insearch of a good case + PSU combo:bouncy:

Did you have a size and color preference. With microATX you can go with a pretty small case, but you might not want to for heating/upgradeability issues.

[menikmati]

this case is visually good and it comes with a good 450 power supply.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811166017
Uh...no that is not a "good 450 power supply." Read the reviews, only out of the 4 available, there is already a user with a problem:

http://images10.newegg.com/Nest/goldegg.gifhttp://images10.newegg.com/Nest/whiteegg.gifhttp://images10.newegg.com/Nest/whiteegg.gifhttp://images10.newegg.com/Nest/whiteegg.gifhttp://images10.newegg.com/Nest/whiteegg.gif DO NOT BUY IT.

Pros: Nice lights on front of the case, and side fan works.

Cons: Less then 10 minutes later computer shut itself off. Power suply got so hot it turned itself off. Found out that power suply fan dosen't work. Had to replace power suply.

Reviewed By: N/A, 6/23/2006 2:31:13 PM
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I have already suggested good power supplies in my previous posts. A power supply is not something you should skimp on. Imagine a shortage in the power supply, who knows what it can take out with it. It can permanently damage the processor, fry the RAM due to too high of energy voltage jolted into it, and a dead motherboard, leaving you with a gutted PC.

Here's a fairly cheap yet quality case with a 350W power supply, I've used this case with a previous client for a custom build and no problems whatsoever. I even put 2 hard drives in a RAID array with two optical drives for on-the-fly copying and the 350W was able to handle that with no problem.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=140035

[Furashu]

Uh...no that is not a "good 450 power supply." Read the reviews, only out of the 4 available, there is already a user with a problem:

http://images10.newegg.com/Nest/goldegg.gifhttp://images10.newegg.com/Nest/whiteegg.gifhttp://images10.newegg.com/Nest/whiteegg.gifhttp://images10.newegg.com/Nest/whiteegg.gifhttp://images10.newegg.com/Nest/whiteegg.gif DO NOT BUY IT.

Pros: Nice lights on front of the case, and side fan works.

Cons: Less then 10 minutes later computer shut itself off. Power suply got so hot it turned itself off. Found out that power suply fan dosen't work. Had to replace power suply.

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I have already suggested good power supplies in my previous posts. A power supply is not something you should skimp on. Imagine a shortage in the power supply, who knows what it can take out with it. It can permanently damage the processor, fry the RAM due to too high of energy voltage jolted into it, and a dead motherboard, leaving you with a gutted PC.

Here's a fairly cheap yet quality case with a 350W power supply, I've used this case with a previous client for a custom build and no problems whatsoever. I even put 2 hard drives in a RAID array with two optical drives for on-the-fly copying and the 350W was able to handle that with no problem.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=140035

well choosing this case will force me to change my mobo but it seems like a great deal!

the one i chose was Micro ATX

[NoRain]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811190072

I like that one. I also would like to note that you need to check how many pins the motherboard uses and how many the power supply has. AMD generally is 24 pin power supplies for their motherboards and intel is 20 I think. Definetly another thing to watch out for. 20+4 of course means it works for both varieties of motherboards.

[menikmati]

There really is no advantage to using a microATX sized motherboard other than the smaller form factor. Everything is compressed and is basically a bitch to route wires and do little changes due to everything being smushed together. There's also generally a lack of I/O ports when in comparison to a regular form-factor. There's also an issue with cooling. Expect a little heat-cube with a majority of microATX cases. I have a full tower and it's a dream to work with. But if you're going to stay with microATX, the Athenatech seems good from the reviews.

[Vinny]

If you're getting a case with a PS, look at Antec or Rosewill.

This one looks like a winner.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811147001

Slick looking case, 400W PS, great reviews, and great price.

[Furashu]

If you're getting a case with a PS, look at Antec or Rosewill.

This one looks like a winner.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811147001

Slick looking case, 400W PS, great reviews, and great price.

alright ill probably get that one i saw it earlier but i didnt know if rosewill was a good company....

time to look for a ATX mobo with am2 support!

[Furashu]

well i might consider changing to this mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138026R

anything wrong with "open box"? 57$ for a 80$ mobo will allow me to maybe even up my CPU alot =)
but if ur guys opinion on "open box" is bad then ill reconsider

oh yeah whats IDE?

[NoRain]

I don't have an experience with open box items from newegg, but I have had good luck with them from a support standpoint on regular merchandise. IDE is one of the interfaces for hard drives/optical drives. I forget what all the acronymns really stand for.

I probably wouldn't get an open box motherboard, the case would be ok, but not the motherboard. If this is your first build and it sounds like it is I wouldn't take the chance on something not being right with the mobo. It's not worth saving the money in this case.

[Furashu]

I don't have an experience with open box items from newegg, but I have had good luck with them from a support standpoint on regular merchandise. IDE is one of the interfaces for hard drives/optical drives. I forget what all the acronymns really stand for.

I probably wouldn't get an open box motherboard, the case would be ok, but not the motherboard. If this is your first build and it sounds like it is I wouldn't take the chance on something not being right with the mobo. It's not worth saving the money in this case.
yeah first time
dammit i cant go over budget hmm i might just stay with the current setup and get that anatech case:applause:

ok re-rundown
CPu 3800am2- 110$
MOBO AM2 socket- 75$
250gb HDD - 75$
1gb RAM - 85$
Athenatech case - $45
total = 390$ w/out shipping n taxes...
goddamit where will i get money for a GPU

ok i went on newegg to see the total price
its $450 total with shipping and tax...
lol where the hell will i get 100 for that GPU

[mr ryles]

well i might consider changing to this mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138026R

anything wrong with "open box"? 57$ for a 80$ mobo will allow me to maybe even up my CPU alot =)
but if ur guys opinion on "open box" is bad then ill reconsider

oh yeah whats IDE?


I have ordered an open box hardrive and cd drive before and all wher in like new condition. They could have shoved them into a retail box and you never would have known. But with a mobo I think you should stick to a new one in box.

[Furashu]

well i plan on ditching that mobo and sticking with the original

i found a good deal on an antec case but is this site reliable/trustworthy?
$69 shipped Antec case with 350W

http://www.chiefpick.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CE-SLK1650B

or this one from zzf
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=140035

this might be stupid
but can a standard ATX case hold a mircro atx mobo?

well finding a micro atx from antec has been a problem so im looking for other mobos
Sigh i need some help on whether or not i should stick with my current list lol
PSU is killin me but i guess it shouldnt matter... im not at home so i dont know what kind of PSU i have in my comp lol
well if anything ill get an ANTEC PSU replacement for the one im planning on buying if anything goes wrong =)

ASUS M2V Socket AM2 VIA K8T890 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131024
BIOSTAR TFORCE 550 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 550 MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138026
ASUS M2V Socket AM2 VIA K8T890 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131024

the thing is i dont get the difference between the mobos besides the pcie slots and what cpu socket they have, can someone help me?
which of the 3 mobos should i get?
dam if i get these ill need ddr2 ram =/
dammit they dont have onboard video... uh should i find a mobo thats 10/15 dollars more with onboard video cause i just need a temp one and i dont wanna put forth for a 30 dollar temp video card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustRatingReview.asp?Item=N82E16820231043
found a gskill ram for ddr2

i think ill get that atx antec case from ZZF

[mr ryles]

if you're willing to pay that much for a case go with an aspire brand. Very good product. And you should just find a mobo with on-board video and then save up for a video card later.

I have this aspire case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144151

my friend has this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144101

both are very well built and have plenty of room.

[Vinny]

Aspire makes ok cases but their PSes suck. They're also known as Apevia or something now.

I still think that Rosewill case/PS combo was a good one, the reviews were fairly positive for the most part.

A ATX case may or may not be able to fit a micro ATX mobo, it depends on the case. Usually they'll have listed what kind of mobos can be used with the case.

[mr ryles]

ya rosewill makes good powersupplies and that one combo listed earlier was pretty good for the price. I have a rosewill powersupply and have no problems. Has anice blue LED light on the fan too.

[Furashu]

ok well i need a new mobo with onboard video as i cannot buy a GPU right now ill update my list in a sec but i wanna get opinions on this board that was reccomended to me
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128010

[mr ryles]

ok well i need a new mobo with onboard video as i cannot buy a GPU right now ill update my list in a sec but i wanna get opinions on this board that was reccomended to me
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128010

good brand, and the onboard video seems pretty good, looks like a winner.

[Furashu]

its friggen OOS dammit lol
gotta wait

uh im still confused on the ram to mobo support all i know is the diff pins and if its ddr2 or not
this other guy from another forum told me to get these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820220070

2X 512mb DDR2 240 pins seems like they are compatible


well heres a rundown on what im planning to purchase....

Rosewill TU-155 Black Steel ATX Black 0.8mm SGCC Steel Mid Tower Computer Case 400W(20+4 pin) $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811147001

Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3160811AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $59 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822148149)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822148149

Patriot Signature 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit System Memory $88
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820220070

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Orleans 2000MHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail $89
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103633

Gigabyte GA-M55plus-S3G Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128010

total cost + shipping and tax
= ....... *drum roll*
$435 =)

[SOSTrooper]

Looks good, that gives you a good ~$100+ for the video card in the near future.

[Americanpierg]

Be sure to pick a case that you know you will surely like, as you will see it a lot for a long time, unless you switch pc cases quite frequently.

I use to have this case. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144026 , the aspire xdreamer 2. I thought it was cool looking, and it came with a power supply so i picked it. The power supply worked perfectly with an x1800xt for almost a month, but when i upgraded to an x1900xtx, the power supply shorted itself out a couple days after installing the x1900xtx (I dont really blame the power supply, it was a 420 watt with dual 14 amp 12v rails, which prolly adds up to ~24 amp 12v, but the x1900xtx uses wayyyy too much power). After a couple months the case became dull and I couldnt stand looking at it anymore.

So i finally decided to do what I shouldve done in the first place, invest in a GOOD case, so now I have the thermaltake armor, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133154. BEST CASE EVER. Worth every penny, and I even spent an extra 60 dollars buying the Thermaltake Hardcano 13 LED fan controller just to make the case look even better, although the 6-1 card reader was a useful bonus. Now i just have to hit the gym some more to be able to carry this massive 60 pound behemoth to lan parties more often.

[Americanpierg]

its friggen OOS dammit lol
gotta wait

uh im still confused on the ram to mobo support all i know is the diff pins and if its ddr2 or not
this other guy from another forum told me to get these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820220070

2X 512mb DDR2 240 pins seems like they are compatible


well heres a rundown on what im planning to purchase....

Rosewill TU-155 Black Steel ATX Black 0.8mm SGCC Steel Mid Tower Computer Case 400W(20+4 pin) $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811147001

Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3160811AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $59
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822148149

Patriot Signature 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit System Memory $88
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820220070

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Orleans 2000MHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail $89
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103633

Gigabyte GA-M55plus-S3G Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128010

total cost + shipping and tax
= ....... *drum roll*
$435 =)

Just for reference, here's the sub400 system I built awhile ago. This is from my newegg invoice.



Products


Item #: COM $-16.00 Item(s) shipped from CA Tracking Number:


https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 1AMD Portable Pencil Holder, folds up for transportation. Color: Black Back, with Silver Clock Face, Chrome legs - OEM
Item #: N82E16800997006 $16.00


https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 1newegg Glossy Logo Sticker - OEM
Item #: N82E16800999137 $5.00


https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 1ECS RD480-A939 (1.0) Socket 939 ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 CrossFire ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813135008
For Tech Support Please call 800-829-8890
$61.00

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 1AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 2000MHz HT Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3000BPBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103537
For Retail AMD processor, please call 408 749-3060 for service after first 30 days. For OEM AMD processor, we will service for 30 days only. Please verify the Processor matches your order Prior To installation. IMPORTANT: Always pack your CPU well for return. We will refuse your RMA if we received it as DAMAGED!
$109.00


https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 1CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model VS1GBKIT400 - Retail
Item #: N82E16820145440 $77.00


https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 10MASSCOOL FD08025S1M4 80mm Sleeve Case Cooling Fan - Retail
Item #: N82E16835150007 $9.90


https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 1DCT Factory SPK-008UBLK 2.0 Speaker - Retail
Item #: N82E16836131016 $6.99


https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 1BenQ 16X DVD±R DVD Burner With exclusive SolidBurn Technology Black ATA/ATAPI Model DW1650 BK - OEM
Item #: N82E16827101010 $35.99


Item(s) shipped from TN Tracking Number:
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 1APEVIA (ASPIRE) X-Dreamer II ATXB4KLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 420W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16811144026 $56.99

Subtotal:$356.87https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/ewraFaq.gif
Tax:$0.00
Shipping:$34.59
Printer-friendly Version
Amount Paid: $391.46


Didnt order a harddrive becuase I already had like 20. This was back in March, now the 3000+ venice is 66 dollars, but the ram is 98. You can also deduct the speaker and the fan, bringing the total to around 340 shipped...not so bad. I have a x2 3800+ now, but the 3000+ was running confortably on the motherboard at 2.25 ghz on stock voltage and nothing altered but htt speed (fbs for u intel people). It was at 250x9, because the motherboard maxed out at 250 :-/ or else it wouldve went higher. This was also on the stock fan with the thermal pad.

[Furashu]

Just for reference, here's the sub400 system I built awhile ago. This is from my newegg invoice.



Products


Item #: COM $-16.00 Item(s) shipped from CA Tracking Number:


https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 1AMD Portable Pencil Holder, folds up for transportation. Color: Black Back, with Silver Clock Face, Chrome legs - OEM
Item #: N82E16800997006 $16.00


https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 1newegg Glossy Logo Sticker - OEM
Item #: N82E16800999137 $5.00


https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 1ECS RD480-A939 (1.0) Socket 939 ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 CrossFire ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813135008
For Tech Support Please call 800-829-8890
$61.00

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 1AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 2000MHz HT Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3000BPBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103537
For Retail AMD processor, please call 408 749-3060 for service after first 30 days. For OEM AMD processor, we will service for 30 days only. Please verify the Processor matches your order Prior To installation. IMPORTANT: Always pack your CPU well for return. We will refuse your RMA if we received it as DAMAGED!
$109.00


https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 1CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model VS1GBKIT400 - Retail
Item #: N82E16820145440 $77.00


https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 10MASSCOOL FD08025S1M4 80mm Sleeve Case Cooling Fan - Retail
Item #: N82E16835150007 $9.90


https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 1DCT Factory SPK-008UBLK 2.0 Speaker - Retail
Item #: N82E16836131016 $6.99


https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 1BenQ 16X DVD±R DVD Burner With exclusive SolidBurn Technology Black ATA/ATAPI Model DW1650 BK - OEM
Item #: N82E16827101010 $35.99


Item(s) shipped from TN Tracking Number:
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/track.gif Track 1APEVIA (ASPIRE) X-Dreamer II ATXB4KLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 420W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16811144026 $56.99

Subtotal:$356.87https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9241/30d/secure.newegg.com/Nest/ewraFaq.gif
Tax:$0.00
Shipping:$34.59
Printer-friendly Version
Amount Paid: $391.46


Didnt order a harddrive becuase I already had like 20. This was back in March, now the 3000+ venice is 66 dollars, but the ram is 98. You can also deduct the speaker and the fan, bringing the total to around 340 shipped...not so bad. I have a x2 3800+ now, but the 3000+ was running confortably on the motherboard at 2.25 ghz on stock voltage and nothing altered but htt speed (fbs for u intel people). It was at 250x9, because the motherboard maxed out at 250 :-/ or else it wouldve went higher. This was also on the stock fan with the thermal pad.

pretty good but i dont want a 939 socket!
yeah i already got speakers, a 40gb hdd , a monitor and all that excess stuff but i wanna upgrade everything because all my stuff is pretty old and i wanna build my first comp
i was considering a 3000+/3200 but i wanted something better and it was only around 10/15 dollars more for a 3500 which i think is great
i think they might be even cheaper by the time i purchase all of this :bouncy:

[Lice]

You seem to have alot of questions regarding what things mean like IDE for example... For any further wonderings use this site to see what things mean in the computer related field:
http://www.webopedia.com/

And heres a step by step PC building guide...
http://www.pcmech.com/byopc/

good luck sir...

[Furashu]

You seem to have alot of questions regarding what things mean like IDE for example... For any further wonderings use this site to see what things mean in the computer related field:
http://www.webopedia.com/

And heres a step by step PC building guide...
http://www.pcmech.com/byopc/

good luck sir...

haha yeah i got into pc hardware a week ago so its still not burned into my brain!:bouncy:
thanks yeah i got tons of site references...

[Furashu]

sorry for double post but anyways
i remembered i have about 2 spare cases at home but i think the PSU sucks
so could someone reccomend a good PSU for under 50$?
i donno what kind of wattage i need so please aid me
i plan on using a GPU similar to this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130020
and all my specs are above

well i found a PSU but does anyone know if i can find a antec PSU with at least 400w for 40$?

found this but rosewill
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817182022

[Furashu]

ok lol CHEAPER build about 40$ shaved off
need advice on ram theyre all about hte same price...

Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3160811AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822148149

ASUS M2V Socket AM2 VIA K8T890 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131024

Rosewill RD450-2-DB ATX 2.2 450W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817182022

OCZ 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model OCZ25331024VDC-K - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820227006

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Orleans 2000MHz HT Socket AM2 Processor Model ADA3500CNBOX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103633

total = $393.56 shipping and tax =)

[mr ryles]

ok lol CHEAPER build about 40$ shaved off
need advice on ram theyre all about hte same price...

Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3160811AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822148149

ASUS M2V Socket AM2 VIA K8T890 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131024

Rosewill RD450-2-DB ATX 2.2 450W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817182022

OCZ 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model OCZ25331024VDC-K - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820227006

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Orleans 2000MHz HT Socket AM2 Processor Model ADA3500CNBOX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103633

total = $393.56 shipping and tax =)
That looks really good. OCZ is one of the best for RAM. Good processor and rosewill makes good powersupplies. Not bad for that price you got. Now try adding a good video card in and you'll be set.

Found this vidoe card for you:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127193 about $75

[Furashu]

well i was planning on getting this when i get a bit more money since its about 30 dollars more then the one u reccomended and alot better
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130020

[mr ryles]

ya thats actually a hella good deal for that card

[yetidaddy]

How about this ram here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820141067&ATT=20-141-067&CMP=BAC-tbcpc

Power Supply:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=ESTAR-600-N&cat=PWR&cpc=PWRbsc

[Furashu]

LOL i believe my FINAL changes
a few changes


Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3160811AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822148149

ASUS M2NPV-VM Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6150 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131014

FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX450-PN, 12cm FAN, version 2.0, 2 SATA, PCI Express, 450W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817104954

CORSAIR XMS2 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit System Memory -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145566

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Orleans 2000MHz HT Socket AM2 Processor Model ADA3500CNBOX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103633

total = $417.34 w/out my $110 video card
this mobo has onboard video =) temp only

[Furashu]

How about this ram here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820141067&ATT=20-141-067&CMP=BAC-tbcpc

Power Supply:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=ESTAR-600-N&cat=PWR&cpc=PWRbsc


not to double post but i just saw this
although this is my first PC i learned ALOT from reading tips and stuff NOT to cut around on and PSU is not something to toy with i can enjoy all my stuff for a few days then BAM the PSU blows up and my $400 machine is GONE cause of a bad PSU so yeah id onno how long uve been around PC's but that isnt even a good PSU
and for the RAM
someone told me the board i chose works better then 2x 512mb ram sticks instead of 1 gb i thought bout getting a 1gb so ur right there with me thanks for the references anyways!:lol:

[mr ryles]

yetidaddy posted notebook ram LOL.

[Furashu]

yetidaddy posted notebook ram LOL.

LOL i didnt even notice that its ok hes just trying to help me save money:applause:

[Furashu]

updated the list on the first page
im surprised on how well i did haha thanks to everyone who helped i will build this PC as soon as i get back home( in a week)

[Furashu]

well this is my FINAL build...
can anyone tell me if any of my parts will conflict with one another?
i will be using this case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811154012

but this is what im buying
Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3160811AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822148149

ASUS M2NPV-VM Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6150 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131014

FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX450-PN, 12cm FAN, version 2.0, 2 SATA, PCI Express, 450W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817104954

CORSAIR XMS2 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit System Memory -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145566

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Orleans 2000MHz HT Socket AM2 Processor Model ADA3500CNBOX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103633

and im going for this card LATER on
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102688

please help thanks =)

[Vinny]

Looks good... but I don't like that case. For a bit more, you could get a Cooler Master Centurion 5.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=1295819209&Subcategory=&description=centurion+5&srchInDesc=&minPrice=&maxPrice=

And why a Micro ATX mobo? It'll work fine but a regular ATX mobo should give you more room for expansion.

EDIT* Nevermind, I see why now. They're the only ones that come with on board video.

[Furashu]

well the case i already have at home
whats wrong with it?
its FREE =)
lol since im putting 50$ towards a PSU i didnt wanna buy a case cause i dont need it and the case got plenty of good reviews

what do u mean by "more expansion" with atx?

[SpreadTheWord]

what do u mean by "more expansion" with atx?

More PCI slots. And more room to work with, if it's your first build then an ATX motherboard will give you more room to install components.

[Americanpierg]

well this is my FINAL build...
can anyone tell me if any of my parts will conflict with one another?
i will be using this case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811154012

but this is what im buying
Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3160811AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822148149

ASUS M2NPV-VM Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6150 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131014

FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX450-PN, 12cm FAN, version 2.0, 2 SATA, PCI Express, 450W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817104954

CORSAIR XMS2 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit System Memory -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145566

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Orleans 2000MHz HT Socket AM2 Processor Model ADA3500CNBOX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103633

and im going for this card LATER on
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102688

please help thanks =)

LOL! this card is now 90 after rebates?!! I bought it literally 1 month ago for 150 after rebates off newegg......

[Furashu]

More PCI slots. And more room to work with, if it's your first build then an ATX motherboard will give you more room to install components.
what the heck else do i need to install?
lol

[Vinny]

Sorry, I didn't know that you already had that case. There's nothing wrong with it if you already have it but if you were going to buy it, then I'd go with the Cooler Master as it has better airflow and is made of aluminum.

As for ATX vs ATX Micro, you might not need more PCI slots but PCI slots on micro boards are cramped. If you ever want to add a sound card, tuner card, or wi-fi card then you'll have enough room for all three. And yes, regular sized ATX mobos are much easier to work with.

[Americanpierg]

what the heck else do i need to install?
lol

well, one of my mobo is filled with 2 video cards, 1 sound card, 1 hdtv card, and 1 cold cathode on/off switch. no more room for expansion :cry:

[Furashu]

well i dont know i dont really want a mATX mobo because itll cause me temp problems and i dont want that so i might save up to 550$ because ill just get a standard mobo with no onboard video and get that vid card asap... any reccomendations something under $90 lol im kinda busy so can u guys find one preferably ASUS or whatever is good!

[mr ryles]

well i dont know i dont really want a mATX mobo because itll cause me temp problems and i dont want that so i might save up to 550$ because ill just get a standard mobo with no onboard video and get that vid card asap... any reccomendations something under $90 lol im kinda busy so can u guys find one preferably ASUS or whatever is good!

I believe I posted one on the last page. It was like $70-80

[Furashu]

dam wtf all of the asus ones have the same number of PCI and PCIE express unless its 150$ which is WAY too much for me im better off getting the friggen mATX one unless theres ANOTHER Brand of mobos that i should get?

i might go for this if there isnt any around the $85 range cause i cant really push my budget any more then i already have because it costs $550 with everything but since i have to upgrade mymobo itll be around 560 -_-

[ofacto]

dam wtf all of the asus ones have the same number of PCI and PCIE express unless its 150$ which is WAY too much for me im better off getting the friggen mATX one unless theres ANOTHER Brand of mobos that i should get?

i might go for this if there isnt any around the $85 range cause i cant really push my budget any more then i already have because it costs $550 with everything but since i have to upgrade mymobo itll be around 560 -_-


This is the only full size AM2 ATX mobo with on board video in your price range:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128010

Its made by Gigabyte, which is a pretty reliable company.


Honestly I don't see a problem with using a mATX board, as I don't even use any of my PCI slots just the PCIe slot for my video card. Onboard LAN and sound are fine for me. Also since you are reusing your case a mATX might fit better.


Also Fry's has an AMD AM2 x2 3800+ with an ECS motherboard (mATX with onboard video) which is onsale right now for $179 bucks. Also Fry's has a great no hassle return policy, in case you run into problems. I know most people don't like ECS mobos, but I had many and have had very few problems. I would seriously consider this combo deal cause you will notice a BIG difference going form single core to dual core.

[Furashu]

its way to cheap and read the reviews!!!:drool::no::no::no::no::no::no::no::no:: no::no::no::no::no::no:

yeah dude i already know thanks for the reply i already decided on the PSU if u read my first post which i edited...

anyone still with mobo reccomendations?

[Furashu]

any good deals for pc stuff out there?