CAGcast #40: Happy CAGiversary!

[CheapyD]

It's our 40th episode and 1 year anniversary!
Helping us celebrate, we are joined by special guest Christopher Grant, Managing Editor of Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com). Discussions include the death of E3, game journalism, industry news, Dead Rising and much more. We also answer your questions from the CAGbag (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71382), ride the Hype Wagon, and make Chris play "Joystiq or Kotaku".

Post in this thread to be entered in a drawing for a Joystiq t-shirt!

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Linkage:
Intro music: Alpiner - TI-99/4A (http://www.harmlesslion.com/cgi-bin/showprog.cgi?search=Classic99)
Show Feedback (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103197)
FlashStash
Dude you're bald ass ain't getting into E3 anymore...be prepared for the rejection. You need to look around a bit and do some research about who these shows will be run for...it's not you.New releases (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6155335.html)
Joystiq or Kotaku

Is the DS Lite a Good Thing? (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ds-lite/is-the-ds-lite-a-good-thing-150900.php)

29 no-nos for gamers over age 30 (http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/11/29-no-nos-for-gamers-over-age-30/)

Hey! Booth Babes are People Too (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/gaming/hey-booth-babes-are-people-too-151213.php)

The truth about gettin' down (or "couples multiplayer") (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/01/09/the-truth-about-gettin-down-or-couples-multiplayer/)

Parent prefers kid dabbling in coke over playing video games (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/01/10/parent-prefers-kid-dabbling-in-coke-over-playing-video-games/)

Would you dump your wife for an online romance? (http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/11/would-you-dump-your-wife-for-an-online-romance/)

Hello Kitty Kicks Arcade Ass (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/hello-kitty/hello-kitty-kicks-arcade-ass-140852.php)

Where Did All of the Good Game Mags Go? (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/gaming/where-did-all-of-the-good-game-mags-go-141305.php)

Reggie Fils-Aime vs. Chuck Norris (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/02/06/reggie-fils-aime-vs-chuck-norris/)

Has Microsoft Japan Given Up? (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/xbox-360/has-microsoft-japan-given-up-150800.php)

Psychonauts and Other Cheap Deals at Amazon
(http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../archives/psychonauts-and-other-cheap-deals-at-amazon.php)I.Q. Mania (PSP-Asia) $20 shipped at Play-Asia
(http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../archives/-iq-mania-pspasia-20-shipped-at-playasia.php)Ridge Racer 6 - First 360 Game to Hit $19.99 (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../archives/ridge-racer-6-first-360-game-to-hit-1999.php)

Activision paid nearly $100 million for RedOctane (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/09/activision-paid-nearly-100-million-for-redoctane/)
Xbox modder on lockdown (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=66544)
40% of World of Warcraft players addicted (http://feeds.joystiq.com/%7Er/weblogsinc/joystiq/%7E3/10497377/)

CAGbag (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71382)
Outro: Power Pad (http://gameads.gamepressure.com/tv_game_commercial.asp?ID=4352)
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[Grave_Addiction]

Does the voice audio sound really bad for anyone else?

EDIT: Never mind. For some reason, all the podcasts on my PSP are sounding like crap.

[Ma12kez]

Sweet new CAGcast! Can't wait to listen to it.

[Kendal]

Almost done with this weeks CAGcast. I like it so far. I doubt it will nosedive this far in. :D Keep it up guys.

[menikmati]

So you didn't lose your hair due to soldering iron misusage, that myth is now DEBUNKED.

[Milkyman]

wombat, i think you have a point about no one finding out from capcom why they made the boneheaded save system, but the game just came out, and i dont think a review is the place to put the answer to a question like that. EGM does this afterthoughts article after a game has been out for a while where they ask questions like this. Another thing, some people JUST review games and don't write other articles. I wouldnt say all reviewers are journalists.

[Brak]

I like the Dead Rising save system. It makes the game hard, appreciaitng the concept of having one life (surviving).

[gunm]

ha ha ha, Angry Wombat (tm)!! That might be a good t-shirt that WhipSmartBanky can crank out.

The 3 man format wasn't too bad. Chris could've had a bit more airtime, but when Cheapy and Wombat start riffing, I imagine it's harder to cut in, at least if you're being conscious of that sort of thing.

Now I guess you have to have Brian Crecente in for a counterpoint?

CAGcast does seem to work a little better as a two man show, but I wouldn't mind seeing more special guests if there's some relevant topic involved. Huh, I wonder if Mrs. Cheapy would be able to support bringing in some of the Japanese gaming celebrities/developers in and assisting w/the translation? Or would that be a better videocast w/subtitles?

Where do you get all the game commercial sound bites?

[zewone]

ODB is my $$$$a.

[shipwreck]

Listening right now.

Good job on getting the artwork in there.

Angry Wombat is good. I look forward to seeing where this goes as I think you had a pretty good segment in this show. You might have to not stick to a weekly segment though, so that it is reserved for things that actually make Wombat angry.

[radjago]

Is that online game with upgradeable ships Subspace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SubSpace_(computer_game)) perhaps?

[botticus]

Wow, CAGcasts have been going on for a year? Yet another example of how working a 9-5 sucks time away from you.

[Temporaryscars]

I think Wombat is kinda wrong. While I agree that it would be interesting for a "game journalist" to ask the developers why X sucks, but that doesn't belong in a review. A review is just for reviewing, not writing in depth "Behind the Scenes" features. They should keep those separate.

[radjago]

Great show. Chris didn't get to talk as much as I would have liked. Maybe it would have been to dedicate a portion of the show for an interview and questions from CAGs. I also like how you danced around my more serious questions. I was really surprised that Chris took it to 11 against Kotaku. That question was a joke, but I'm satisfied with his response.

[Wombat]

I think Wombat is kinda wrong. While I agree that it would be interesting for a "game journalist" to ask the developers why X sucks, but that doesn't belong in a review. A review is just for reviewing, not writing in depth "Behind the Scenes" features. They should keep those separate.

I never specified that it belongs in reviews(I don't think), my real argument is that if game journalists continue to refer to themselves as journalist, then I want to see some journalism. Give me the review with the complaints and then afew days or week later tell why it was released that way. I really don't think thats too much to ask from the mainstream videogame media.

[y2jedi]

Great show guys. Angry Wombat rules.
Special guest Chris was good.
I listened at work, but I don't remember hearing a Cheapy burp.
Was that the 1st burp free CAGcast ?

[Temporaryscars]

I never specified that it belongs in reviews(I don't think), my real argument is that if game journalists continue to refer to themselves as journalist, then I want to see some journalism. Give me the review with the complaints and then afew days or week later tell why it was released that way. I really don't think thats too much to ask from the mainstream videogame media.

It's a great point, and I think most gamers would love to see developers in the hot seat, but you know it won't happen. If game journalists started pressing developers and publishers about the flaws in their games, they'll start losing those exclusive interviews, advertising and maybe interviews all together. It's the basic issue that all publications face, gaming or not. The fear of losing revenue reigns supreme.

Oh yeah, I like Angery Wombat as well. Can we get some theme music for it?

And congrats on losing weight! But remember, it's not losing it that's hard, it's keeping it off that's the challenge!

[botticus]

Good show, boys. Seems like if you get any more than 2 people on the air, it's tough to avoid talking over each other when you're all remote, though (at least I believe he said he was in Philly).

[Kfoster1979]

Good show guys..
Cheapy this is for you
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Guitar-Mania-Freedom-V-Wireless-Guitar-Controller-689076914932-/sem/rpsm/oid/157059/catOid/-13861/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

I don't like the price but hey..

[anomynous]

Good show

[AllAroundPsycho]

Nice having Chris from Joystiq on the show. I loved hearing his input.

Once again, a great, entertaining show and congrats on 1 year. I'm looking forward to another great year of CAGcast.

Thus ends the post for my chance at the free T-Shirt. Wee! (errr, Wii!)

[anomynous]

And how the Chu interview w/ Peter Moore was mentioned, and Chu was complaining about kameo sucking, he needs to stop being a Sony fanboy, Kameo is one of the best 360 games

[youruglyclone]

don't know if this should be mentioned here but dead rising save system is ok

I mean the fact it's beds and bathrooms...do you pee and sleep wherever you want?

Yeah it's a cheap attempt to make the game harder, but hey it's fine with me.

but yeah it is annoying that there's always zombies congregating by doors in the outdoor park.

Psychonauts PS2 is a lot weaker than the xbox version (in fact the only reason it's still in the collection is because tim schafer signed it)

[CheapyD]

Is that online game with upgradeable ships Subspace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SubSpace_%28computer_game%29) perhaps?haha no...we are talking OLD school here....ascii graphics at best. Though, I have played Subspace and it is fun.

EDIT: I think i found it...it was called MegaWars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MegaWars)

[flowery]

Well nice to have been listening to these things for a year. Thanks for making these things my only source for gaming news and reviews.

I thought this was one of the most professional ones done and Wombat and his rant was good. Also thanks for another ODB soundbite.

[Autumn Star]

Congratulations on making it to 1 year.

I'm actually kind of suprised that this show hasn't slided like others to a monthly or even bi-weekly show for some odd reason or another, it seems to always happen.

Anyway, good show.

[evanft]

Needs more Angry Wombat!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/evanft/angrywombat.jpg

[GrimNecroWizard]

Just started the CAGcast ^_^

[Sancho1978]

I am fairly new to the CAGcasts, as I just never got into listening to them up until recently. Todays CAGcast is my third and I have to say I have been enjoying what I am hearing. Keep up the good work guys. Nothing I can complain about here..oh and I think Angry Wombat was good as well. I agree that the people that had a hand in creating a game should be held accountable for crappy things found in said game. Even if the answer is not given right away, perhaps at some point they can explain their reasoning for doing what they did.

[nyyanksfan20]

Just in time! I needed something to listen to as I go to sleep tonight.

[GrimNecroWizard]

The only thing I didn't like about the CAGcast (Which is not normal) is that when you guys were talking about how terrible the save system for Dead Rising is and stuff, but you never mentioned what it is. I don't have a 360 yet and I'm sure there's lots of others who don't either and have not read much if anything at all about the game. I don't know anything about the save system and since you guys talked about it for a few minutes it would've been helpful if you could've explained how it worked. Other than that keep up the good work.

[soliddragon]

Mr Ed: Lets not get all familiar on the first date! I'm A man da fatha!

More More!!

Down with E3, Arise E-4

[Temporaryscars]

Is the 4th E for "Exclusive?"

[KingCrow02]

Happy CAGiversary!! Happy CAGiversary!! Now cough up the T-Shirt.

[natureboy46]

I liked the three man format...good to mix things up every now and then.

Congrats on the first year

[doctorfaustus]

Good show, sirs. I think the angry wombat segment was pretty interesting and would like to hear it again in the near future.

Also, Wombat's gripe with Video Game Journalists seems apt. It would appear that most of what is going on in VG journalism is composed of bland reviews, snarky comments, or pointless stuff. And while Chris is right that there is a place for these sorts of news outlet the fact remains that there is no real investigative journalism for video games at the moment. Nobody is really going out there and asking the hard questions, digging deep, and uncovering the vital truth that must exist beneath that layer of PR hype, misdirection, and ambiguity. Someone needs to make the calls, set up the interviews, ask the hard questions. Gamers complaining about a faulty save system? What lead to such a decision? Find the developer and ask about them.

Go, Wombat, go!

[Ikohn4ever]

bah, you didnt ask my question on them saying real journalists shouldnt get excited for games, way to throw the softballs at him

[AK85]

Great show! Congrats on 1 year and hope there is another.

PS fuck Pre-Orders

[MusicNoteLess]

The intro music sounds familiar...where's it from?

[ryanbph]

great show as always. Good to see a guest on the show. Does joystick have podcasts, if so will you be making an appearance? The shows negativity about pac man was disturbing. The poll has it at 39.6% on cag. I would imagine they would be happy with a 40% buy rate. The angry wombat segment was very good. While listening to other podcasts by some of these alleged gaming journalists, I find it funny that they think E3 is for them. Wasn't it started as a trade show. Where a walmart/best buy buyer would walk into a booth, see the new product and place orders. When did it become about journalist covering shit. These journalist are also taking shots at smaller sites/blogs (kotaku/joystick) about how these hack sites won't be allowed to the shows, which would allow 1up/egm to do there job.

[epobirs]

A recently married Cheap didn't know about the Paper Anniversary?

Dude, you need to study or you're in fr a world of suffering.

http://wow-gift-ideas.com/traditional-anniversary-gift-list.html

[racerman8]

I have to agree with others that have mention that the saving system on Dead Raising is to make the game harder.

[evilmax17]

Shirty shirt, shirty shirt shirt.

[PawnTakesKing]

Feedback on the latest 'Cast:

- Loved the Angry Wombat™ segment. I also noticed Cheapy was a lot more lenient with Wombat's humor this time.

- The Joystiq guy was pretty boring, and he sounded like a nerd. It seems he didn't add very much to the show.

- The CAGbag, as popular as it is, needs to be restrained. A 30-minute CAGbag is way too long. It should be 15 minutes, tops.

- I like the resurrection of the Hype Wagon. It's one of my favorite segments.

- Where was the Deal/Game Shopping news?
EDIT: Sorry...I missed it. I see it on the outline. I must have not been very attentive during that part.

Other than that, another great show. Much needed listening enjoyment on the long drive to work (and in this case, on the way home too). WOO!

[mouse2]

I love the CAGcast, and its the only podcast I listen to.

[epobirs]

I don't think the save system on Dead Rising is a problem. Plenty of games had this sort of arrangement in the past because reaching the save point was intended to mark an achievement.

Too many games made it too easy by letting you go directly to a problem area over and over again. Sure, it can be frustrating if a severely difficult challenge comes at the end of a long arduous gauntlet but that is a question of design balance. Even in a hadheld game I don't want a save anywhere and anywhen for most games.

[Mattte]

Whats the deal with the time limit? I'd gladly listen to you guys ramble on for 6 hours, makes the time pass at work.

Anyways, another good show.

[trip1eX]

I don't think Wii fans like the Wii because Nintendo is shirking high quality graphics as the Joystiq guy said. That's not quite right. It's more about being attracted to the new experience with the controller and that this 'graphical salary cap' Nintendo is installing will put more focus on what makes games games - interactivity.

Yeah like Wombat said you want the best of everything (who doesn't?,) but games aren't made on infinite budgets. The more money you spend on sweat beads and photo-realism, the less you have for other aspects of the game such as the gameplay.

And just as Wombat said about the DS graphics I will say about Wii graphics - Wii graphics aren't going backwards. The Wii will be Nintendo's most powerful console ever. The games will look pretty good.

I bought Fight Night 2 on the 'Cube and I mostly found myself playing the Super Punchout bonus game. It's more fun imo than the main game. Yeah FN2 is more realistic and looks more realistic, but I'd argue that doesn't spell fun. And that sums up the Wii.

[thorbahn3]

Long, awkward and boring. :(

Perhaps a ten minute interview segment would of been better.

As for Wombat's rant about video game journalists, you got a semi point. True it would be interesting to find why this save feature you hate was made but it's often a super kamaya bitch to get a real answer. On a side note the producer of Dead Rising was doing a signing in Seattle this week, so even Joe Q public could of asked, if they heard about the problem before the game's release.

And for the love of God leave the Lord of the Rings pre-order out of the future cagcasts!

[RedComet]

Wasn't Wombat supposed to get Kameo for free from Microsoft?

[GrimNecroWizard]

Wasn't Wombat supposed to get Kameo for free from Microsoft?

Whoa, I went to quote you and it says Wombat, but in the post it says Kameo instead of Wombat. But he got PGR3 I thought.

[sj41]

Wasn't Kameo supposed to get Kameo for free from Microsoft?If she does exist, I would assume Microsoft would give her a copy.;) He chose PGR3 instead.

I love all the CagCasts including this one, but this wasn't nearly as entertaining. Very few jokes, very little laughing. I only go to joystiq when I find a link for it, so I wasn't too interested in the main subject matter for a large portion of the show. Angry Wombat was pretty good, but that seemed to replace other, more random rants by Wombat, which is the main reason why I listen every week. I hope that it will be more spontaneous and care free next time. Everybody just seemed nervous, and Cheapy haveing to ask "So, what do you guys think?" after every story was rediculous. I don't know what Cheapy told Wombat before the show, but Wombat backed off of everything so Chris could have a little bit of time to talk. I guess the chemistry is just better when it's Cheapy and Wombat.

Still was enjoyable to listen to, and hope for CagCasts to be coming in weekly for several years. And I personally like the show to be longer. The only video game podcasts I listen to are "The Hotspot" from GameSpot and the CagCast, which they're both only once a week. I don't know if they have to end it at a certain time, but I would love a 2 hour CagCast if their was a lot of news to talk about at some point.

[panasonic]

Wombat got Kameo

listening to it now A+ so far.

[quickstraw]

I have to say that the Joystiq guy was a bit boring. I would rather hear more from Wombat and CheapyD.

By the way, Wombat, why do you seem to hate going past the 1 hour mark?

Is there a reason you seem to want to avoid going over an hour?

[AshesofWake]

awesome cagcast, one of the best, pretty damn entertaining

[Zero_Kirby]

good job

[Justden]

Regards to the gaming addiction topic.


"I used to play (this is going to date myself); I used to play, when CompuServe first came out, they had these like kidna sorta text based massively multiplayer online games and I used to really (I was totally hooked on those) and I can't even remember the name of the game but it was like a space game where you like upgrade your ship and you had to take over like different planets but CompuServe, back then used to charge based on how much time you played (it wasn't like a set fee) and I remember I was just like a kid and my dad got the bill for that and he flipped out and that was the last time I played that game or went on CompuServe."

Many years ago, I remember playing a game called TradeWars on BBS' that sounds a lot like your description. I can certainly vouch for its addictiveness. Back then the local town bulletin boards I would frequent each only had 1 modem so you had to take turns through out the day making your moves. It had an electronic pen and paper feel to it. There were limits to the number of moves you could make while you waited for your planets to rake in money. To get my fix, I would often spend time on different BBS' playing completely separate games.

I suspect we’ll see online ‘AAA’ MMORPG online meetings pop up for this Variable Ratio Reinforcement addiction (otherwise known as Excessive Game-play Syndrome). Hopefully it will be covered by most HMO's.

[ch3zyp00fs]

Huzzah.

[dpatel]

congrats cheapy on the 40th episode. although I don't post much, ive been here for a while and have seen the site change a lot (for the better). Gotta say that you are doing a great job with the site.

[FriskyTanuki]

Is the 4th E for "Exclusive?"
No, Expo. It's called E3Expo, or Electronic Entertainment Expo Expo. I still think the ESA might've made too drastic of a change, but I guess the staggered E3 news will reveal what else will be different. Good luck to getting back in next year's show, Cheapy.

Great show, one of the best in a while. Great pacing, nice amount of topics, and you guys didn't ignore your guest or dominate the conversations. Of course, this all lead to an over 75 minute show, but it wasn't really boring at any part of the show.

The angry Wombat segment reminds me of the Family Guy episode where Peter gets his own ranting segment on the news. Let's see if Wombat has enough hatred inside of him to do a weekly segment, if that's the plan for it.

[Temporaryscars]

No, Expo. It's called E3Expo, or Electronic Entertainment Expo Expo. I still think the ESA might've made too drastic of a change, but I guess the staggered E3 news will reveal what else will be different. Good luck to getting back in next year's show, Cheapy.

Great show, one of the best in a while. Great pacing, nice amount of topics, and you guys didn't ignore your guest or dominate the conversations. Of course, this all lead to an over 75 minute show, but it wasn't really boring at any part of the show.

The angry Wombat segment reminds me of the Family Guy episode where Peter gets his own ranting segment on the news. Let's see if Wombat has enough hatred inside of him to do a weekly segment, if that's the plan for it.

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=729027

[ZombieHendrix]

I enjoyed hearing a guest on the show today. Any plans for future guests?

[contej85]

Loving the CAGcast this week, as per usual. Keep it up guys.

[willardhaven]

Awesome CAGcast, the ODB segments at the end are a perfect fit, I hope you have more.

I agree that your guest was the most boring part, but it's still fun to hear someone new.

[doodle777_98]

cool, i'm in.

[FriskyTanuki]

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=729027
Okay, fine. It was a crappy show. :-( You might as well point out what part of the post you're refering or it's just a useless post.

[kojubat]

Good stuff. Happy CAGiversary on the CAGcast!

[dubbfoolio]

great show. I liked the idea of having an industry guest on the show, hope to see more industry guests in the future and..... who are we kidding my cheapass just wants the free joystiq t-shirt! ;)

Just kidding (sorta) thanks for a solid year of CAG.

[Sn0brawler]

Although longer than the previous cagcasts im familar with, the quality of discussion didn't drop in my opinion. Keep it up gentlemen.

[xxxmisfit]

Hey Wombat I was thinking of you this morning when my 360 started to freeze randomly while playing Chromehounds. It froze during my Dead Rising demo and a movie too.

The reason I’m writing this is to inform you of the GREAT service I received from XBOX (Microsoft) support. I know I was freaked out too, especially after I heard the trouble you had to go through with yours. I only waited 3 minutes on the phone and the first guy I got, although located in Texas (I know I asked), he was from Arizona (me too) and he spoke like an intelligent, literate human being. After a few minutes of trouble shooting and note taking we discovered the problem. It turned out to be a time issue due to a power outage I had a couple of days before. The clock was all messed up, I reset it and all was good. Weird.

Anyway, just wanted to share my experience with the 'Dark Empire', maybe they heard your CAG cast and wised up.

Sincerely,

Ron of Mesa

[mkg12]

Good show, having a guest was good.

[Milkyman]

Anyway, just wanted to share my experience with the 'Dark Empire', maybe they heard your CAG cast and wised up.

Sincerely,

Ron of Mesa

I believe that's "EVIL empire"

[Cursor]

Why is it that the Ziff-Davis properties always rock and the others--not so much. 1up, Joystiq, etc. Amazing content!

I'd love to have the shirt, too... :)

Keep on CAG'n!

[xxxmisfit]

I believe that's "EVIL empire"

I thought that sounded funny...

[Oxybeles]

Suprisingly, Wombat is actually more iintelligent and humorous than his name makes him out to be.

Cheapy, as always, one of the most entertaining Podcast of any genre.

[CommanderKeen93]

The Dead Rising save system is the reason i didnt buy it yet. Should I ?

[CheapyD]

Why is it that the Ziff-Davis properties always rock and the others--not so much. 1up, Joystiq, etc. Amazing content!


Joystiq is owned by AOL, not Ziff-Davis.

[DQT]

Good show. Regarding the angry Wombat segment, I thought the point of Peter Moore interview was to complain about why all the good Xbox games were not compatible with the Xbox 360, not necessarily Kameo.

[ivanctorres]

Enjoyed the Cagcast as always but I really could do without the 3 man format for the Cagcast.

No offense to Chris from Joystiq but he didn't bring much to the table.

-I think the cagcast is at its best when its cracking jokes and sticks to sophmoric content. I like it better wehn I feel like its two regular guys talking games. Tthat is really what makes the cagcast shine.

Stick with the two man formant.

-Cheapy loved the -"titties should be in my mouth" comment. That's what makes you guys great.

[Cursor]

Joystiq is owned by AOL, not Ziff-Davis.

I stand corrected. Hontoni gomen nasai!

I liked the 3-man format, myself. Gives you guys one more person to play off of--less 'dead spots' in the banter. I think you should do more of this in the future. I like the fresh perspective, and the interview as well.

Looking forward to the 'man in Japan' coverage of TGS. Always enjoy insights into the Japanese market.

[XboxHardcore.com]

Great as always.

[NateWhs152]

I want me a free shirt

[Mr Unoriginal]

So-so CAGcast this time. I like the guest, but definately devote a segment to just asking questions instead of having him jump in and out of the 'cast. The Angry Wombat section didn't really do it for me this time. I'd rather see an AW segment where there is a cohesive argument instead of screaming and yelling for 3 minutes.

Keep up the good work.

[Brak]

I could hear Wombat's rage shaking his entire body.

[sying]

If you link back to Joystiq some douche is attacking us and our "immoral" ways. search for fawcee's comment. I have not seen anything that is considered illegal that cheapyd has not condoned either through the banstick, in a past cagcast or the lockhammer. just my 2 cents. CAGs are mostly good people, cept the plants from FW.

[Tybee]

I find it fascinating that so many are calling Chris "boring," when I thought his presence helped make this one of the better shows yet. I wasn't so interested in the constant discussion of the rivalry with Kotaku, but most of that seemed to be prompted by reader questions and Cheapy, rather than Chris, who seemed to be above it. I always love the show, but this one felt a little more...I dunno...professional.

The Angry Wombat segment is fun and I agree that game journalists MUST do follow-ups if at all possible. However, I think he overestimates how much pull most game journalists actually have. Most developers have no desire to explain themselves and there's no law that says they have to. Thus, if they talk to you at all about a perceived problem with one of their games, they'll usually feed you some PR BS about how they developed the best product they could and it's impossible to please all of the people all of the time blah blah blah.

Case in point: When I was writing about games way back when, one of the publishers that consistently delivered crap was Crave Entertainment. We would skewer them in reviews and had the chance to talk to them by phone and in person on multiple occasions and they'd never give a satisfactory answer for why their products were invariably flawed. They're still around and still cranking out garbage.

Cheapy: It sounds like the game you're describing is Trade Wars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_Wars).

[Man with the Plan]

Great Podcast yet again.

[crazytalkx]

Keep up the awesomeness. You guys make my toilet visits/drives more entertaining by 104%

[Scobie]

This is by far my least favorite episode.... it seemed like CheapyD was trying to impress that nerd from Joystiq (and who gives a fuck? When was the last time Joystiq saved me cash on games?) while acting somewhat embarrassed about Wombat. Maybe it was just me and my hard-line pro-Wombat stance, but I definitely got the vibe that CheapyD was acting like Wombat was a retarded child who he and Mrs. Cheapy adopted and are ashamed of.

Well, I'm here to say that there's nothing to be ashamed of. Wombat's holding down *hard* and the Angry Wombat segment was a few audible spittles of rage away from being pure podcasting gold.

[trip1eX]

OH, btw, gaming mags are enthusiast mags. They are there to promote the hobby more than anything. They aren't journalists. They get giddy when they get to fly somewhere to play a game. YOu can't be a real journalist and be wined and dined to play games and get free copies and your mag/site accepts ads from the same companies you review. Come on now.

[CYRiX]

I like wombat's mad segment. I also want a free joystiq t-shirt too!

[lilboo]

just downloaded.. will listen to it in a bit :P

I just wanna be entered in the tshirt contest too :D

[doctorfaustus]

This is by far my least favorite episode.... it seemed like CheapyD was trying to impress that nerd from Joystiq (and who gives a fuck? When was the last time Joystiq saved me cash on games?) while acting somewhat embarrassed about Wombat. Maybe it was just me and my hard-line pro-Wombat stance, but I definitely got the vibe that CheapyD was acting like Wombat was a retarded child who he and Mrs. Cheapy adopted and are ashamed of.

Well, I'm here to say that there's nothing to be ashamed of. Wombat's holding down *hard* and the Angry Wombat segment was a few audible spittles of rage away from being pure podcasting gold.

I'm a "pro-Wombat" hard-liner, too. Are there any Icons I can use on my sig or something to show my support of that anthropomorphic, rageohol fueled, hirsute creature known as wombat?

[MrNEWZ]

Wow, CAGcasts have been going on for a year? Yet another example of how working a 9-5 sucks time away from you.

Ding. :-(

[WhipSmartBanky]

Well...this was a tough one. As much as I loves me some CAGcast, this one wasn't as strong as some of the other recent episodes.

I think Chris Grant is a smart, well spoken guy, but as a guest he doesn't really jump in as boldly as he probably needed to. It's not really his fault of course, as it's not his show, and it's incredibly difficult to do when Cheapy and Wombat have done 39 shows together previously and have an established chemistry and repoire. I gotta give Cheapy props though for being aware of the guest making sure Chris was included at every major topic change though.

I gotta agree that this type of thing would work as an interview segment, but not as a three man show. A third member would have to have an incredibly strong personality, somebody to be a real foil to Wombat and Cheapy.

Hell, I think it would even work better if Cheapy or Wombat were unavailable to do the show one week for someone to "guest host" with the other. That way, Cheapy or Wombat could handle the CAG business like the deals and new releases, but the guest host could bring something of their own to the table.

Just my worthless $0.02.

[epobirs]

Apparently, I CAN cure cancer.

[niceguyshawne]

Maybe it was just me and my hard-line pro-Wombat stance, but I definitely got the vibe that CheapyD was acting like Wombat was a retarded child who he and Mrs. Cheapy adopted and are ashamed of.



I got that vibe too. Does this take me out of the running for the free t-shirt?

[CheapyD]

Maybe it was just me and my hard-line pro-Wombat stance, but I definitely got the vibe that CheapyD was acting like Wombat was a retarded child who he and Mrs. Cheapy adopted and are ashamed of.
.Ashamed isn't the right word, I think frustrated is better.
It's pretty annoying to keep cleaning up those doody stains off the floor.
Even a cat learns to use a litter box after some training...

[shipwreck]

I must have lost touch with the CAG community because I thought this was probably my favorite CAGcast so far. Chock full of lots of good content, new segments, and an interesting guest.

Maybe I'm not an objective listener anymore. :(

[Tybee]

Hell, I think it would even work better if Cheapy or Wombat were unavailable to do the show one week for someone to "guest host" with the other. That way, Cheapy or Wombat could handle the CAG business like the deals and new releases, but the guest host could bring something of their own to the table.

You've been watching a lot of Regis and Kelly, haven't you? ;)

[Mr.Answer]

Free t-shirt chance.

[epobirs]

I must have lost touch with the CAG community because I thought this was probably my favorite CAGcast so far. Chock full of lots of good content, new segments, and an interesting guest.

Maybe I'm not an objective listener anymore. :(

It was my favorite, too, but I have reason to be biased.

[1modernboy]

Happy one-year, Cheapy and Wombat!

[Lobsterjohnson]

I don't understand why people need someone to hold their hand while playing video games, the Dead Rising save system is fine, if you can't get to a bathroom j00 sux.

[Sirfragalot]

R.I.P Dirt Magurt

[DesertEagleXIX]

Just wanted to get your opinion on this...

When playing games with a good-bad morality option, such as KOTOR, or Fable, I always play 'good'. I could never kill an innocent person, nor do anything choatic or evil in the game. While I know, it's entertainment, it just goes against my nature. While thinking about this, I realize I am missing a good portion of the game.

I know Wombat mentioned he prefered games where you get to be the good guy. Do you guys ever feel this way, or have I been brainwashed? Perhaps I can't violate the 2nd Prime Directive....

[ivanctorres]

I find it fascinating that so many are calling Chris "boring," when I thought his presence helped make this one of the better shows yet. I wasn't so interested in the constant discussion of the rivalry with Kotaku, but most of that seemed to be prompted by reader questions and Cheapy, rather than Chris, who seemed to be above it. I always love the show, but this one felt a little more...I dunno...professional.

The Angry Wombat segment is fun and I agree that game journalists MUST do follow-ups if at all possible. However, I think he overestimates how much pull most game journalists actually have. Most developers have no desire to explain themselves and there's no law that says they have to. Thus, if they talk to you at all about a perceived problem with one of their games, they'll usually feed you some PR BS about how they developed the best product they could and it's impossible to please all of the people all of the time blah blah blah.

Case in point: When I was writing about games way back when, one of the publishers that consistently delivered crap was Crave Entertainment. We would skewer them in reviews and had the chance to talk to them by phone and in person on multiple occasions and they'd never give a satisfactory answer for why their products were invariably flawed. They're still around and still cranking out garbage.

Cheapy: It sounds like the game you're describing is Trade Wars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_Wars).

I think you summed up the problem in one word "professional". What I like about the podcast is that Cheapy and Wombat don't take themselves too seriously.
I thought this show was trying to be something that the CagCast is not.

I really hope that the Cagcast doesnt continue in this direction. I like listenign to two regular guys talk about games.

Cheapy-How bout weekly "Man in Japan" segments.

[ZeroSupporT]

Good show, posting for the win

[MaskedPlague]

Awesome CAGcast. Here is to 40 more. This one was probably one of the best despite the lack of poop stories.

[Tybee]

I think you summed up the problem in one word "professional". What I like about the podcast is that Cheapy and Wombat don't take themselves too seriously.
I thought this show was trying to be something that the CagCast is not.

I really hope that the Cagcast doesnt continue in this direction. I like listenign to two regular guys talk about games.

Cheapy-How bout weekly "Man in Japan" segments.

It's not the two regular guys talking about games that is unprofessional. It's the two regular guys belching, making tortured animal sounds, and discussing poop at length that turns me off.

A second vote for more regular "Man in Japan" segments.

[WhipSmartBanky]

It's not the two regular guys talking about games that is unprofessional. It's the two regular guys belching, making tortured animal sounds, and discussing poop at length that turns me off.

A second vote for more regular "Man in Japan" segments.
That's the best part!

[SpreadTheWord]

It's not the two regular guys talking about games that is unprofessional. It's the two regular guys belching, making tortured animal sounds, and discussing poop at length that turns me off.

That's who these guys are! You can't ask for too much more.

I mean the guys from 1UP are all in the gaming media but they still act like drunk collage students and make sexual jokes all show long.

[Tybee]

That's who these guys are! You can't ask for too much more.

I mean the guys from 1UP are all in the gaming media but they still act like drunk collage students and make sexual jokes all show long.

I think you've just hit the nail on the head, my friend.

Don't get me wrong. I love the cutting up and would never, ever want them to sterilize the show. But the fact is, we all primarily listen to the show for the discussion of games and related topics. There's plenty of room in there for all of the stuff that comes with that, but it's a fine line between "amusing" and "juvenile." Cheapy and Wombat get a pass most of the time because they are, in fact, funny. The 1UP guys, the 4CR guys, and even the IGN folks usually seem to think they're funnier than they actually are, which really gets grating. I just don't want to see CAG go down that road.

[MrX]

Finally got to listen to this as CAGcast 39 ate my ipod :cry: I would agree that Chris from Joystiq was rather boring and sounded like he really did not want to be a part of it. I think you should have guests however make them very short interviews. It seemed like he was not into the CAG sense of humor. Plus no burp Cheapy. Fuck that. Bring it back!

[Mojimbo]

Great show, I found Chris' additions to the converstion very interesting considering his relationship to the industry and refreshing from the typical CAG talk(which I still love, but you know).

Oh yeah, I concur with the addition of a weekly YMIJ segment.

[SpreadTheWord]

Oh yeah, I concur with the addition of a weekly YMIJ segment.

What's "YMIJ"?

[Mojimbo]

Your Man In Japan

[Ricochet]

Yeah, I was about to say, more YMIJ.

And congrats Wombat on the lost weight! I was wondering what the status was and I'm glad to hear it's working out.

[ivanctorres]

No show this week? Have Cheapy and Wombat been turned off by all the "Chris" from Joystiq backlash?

[WhipSmartBanky]

No show this week? Have Cheapy and Wombat been turned off by all the "Chris" from Joystiq backlash?
CheapyD wasn't able to belch the entire show so he had an unfortunate "backup."