CAG Fighting Game Thread #17 - Victoly!!

[MarkMan]

RR: Sorry about bailin' on you out of nowhere. I had to play my first round match for the SF II: Hyper Fighting tourney.

I'll play more later tonight if I have time. GG though!

[RelentlessRolento]

RR: Sorry about bailin' on you out of nowhere. I had to play my first round match for the SF II: Hyper Fighting tourney.

I'll play more later tonight if I have time. GG though!


yeah, that was a pretty good game. I realized you had some more important stuff anyway, and it looked like you were covering your tourney rounds, so I'm ok :)

I can't get on later since I start my new degree... a scary total conversion from Computer Science to Visual Arts Electronic Intermedia.... >_<

[Apossum]

bit the bullet and ordered Guilty Gear Judgment -- Asia version for $43 shipped.

might as well get slash when there won't be another GG for a while.

[Odenat]

didt' realize it, but Cardfighters DS will be out October 2nd which is pretty soon. So soon I'm surprised it's barely been covered, but then again SNK's publicity wagon hasn't always been the best. This is fantastic news. Card Fighters clash is the only reason I own a NGPC.

[kristianator]

might be kinda late, but for the guy talking about the 3s soundtrack..

it comes free with the street fighter anniversary guide from bradygames. kickass soundtrack with a kickass players guide written by kickass players.. plus they're fucking cheap on ebay. wheeeeeeeeeeeee

[asianxcore]

Also, anyone going to Mag-Fest this year?
http://magfest.org/

I wish. I'd be all over the Puzzle Fighter tournament.

[BustaUppa]

It's funny, in the past I was never too high on the 3s soundtrack. But after getting the strategy guide and ripping the CD, I find myself very impressed each time one of the songs comes up on random on my MP3 player. The music is really sweet!

[Jimbo Slice]

Anyone know of a list of PSP games that auto-update your firmware? I wanna play a bunch of stuff, but I'm getting a 1.5 PSP so I don't wanna update at all.

[Odenat]

Anyone know of a list of PSP games that auto-update your firmware? I wanna play a bunch of stuff, but I'm getting a 1.5 PSP so I don't wanna update at all. basically anything GTA LCS and beyond will ask you to update. I don't think any games auto update your firmware.

[Jimbo Slice]

basically anything GTA LCS and beyond will ask you to update. I don't think any games auto update your firmware.

So I can just say No or something and then continue playing them? I really wanan play Megaman Powered Up, but I don't wanna lose the 1.5 goodness.

[Chacrana]

It's funny, in the past I was never too high on the 3s soundtrack. But after getting the strategy guide and ripping the CD, I find myself very impressed each time one of the songs comes up on random on my MP3 player. The music is really sweet!

That reminds me that I need to get the soundtrack for 3S... awesome music... just wish I could play the game with an acceptable controller.

[MarkMan]

So I can just say No or something and then continue playing them? I really wanan play Megaman Powered Up, but I don't wanna lose the 1.5 goodness.

If you have 1.5 use Devhook it can emulate up to 2.71 firmware which will allow you to play all games currently out.

[Rodimus]

I finally got around to buying a copy of KOF Neowave for X-Box today. $9 brand new, not to bad. I figured I probably wouldn't find a better deal. I popped it in for about 15 minutes and *YAWN* nothing new except young Geese and he's even boring. But I figured that's what it would be like, that's why I never rushed out to buy it.

I'd much rather just play my 2K2. That's got at least 10 more characters over Neowave. They should've made Neowave a Dream-match kinda game. Bring all the characters back with some diffrent versions of each. Kinda like SF Alpha 3. Even throw in some of the old music and Backgrounds.

[depascal22]

I can't get into Neowave. I really tried since I want to support companies that make fighters, but after Neowave and SamShoV it's really hard to suport SNK. I'm a newcomer to KOF but somehow I was expecting more. I recently picked up copies of 95 and 97 for the Saturn but I haven't been able to really play them yet. Or should I try 02/03? Everyone seems to love 02 across the board. What do you guys think?

[Roufuss]

KoF 2003 and KoF XI really advanced the series into a league of its own... both games were absolutely great and a huge step up over previous incarnations.

It's just too bad it came way too late for SNK.

[depascal22]

I should get around to my copy of 02/03. Do any of you guys still play it on Live?

[Rodimus]

depascal22 - Neowave and SamShow V aren't very good, but don't count SNK out yet just because of those bad seeds. SamShow VI is a very good game. All the problems from V were fixed. Unfortunatly no news on a release to the states. And it's not a surprise you didn't like Neowave either. I'd strongly recomend getting KOF 2K2/2K3. And if you have the means look up KOF 98'. It came out for Dreamcast and many still consider it the best.

I play online, I kinda remember your Gamertag. Have you ever played SamShow V online?

[Rozz]

That reminds me that I need to get the soundtrack for 3S... awesome music... just wish I could play the game with an acceptable controller.

I use the Nuby Tech Street Fighter controller for Third Strike. I think it works great.

[RelentlessRolento]

neowave is perfect if you like playing nerfed versins of any character. everything about neowave is mediocre other than the character art.

[GuilewasNK]

I finally got around to buying a copy of KOF Neowave for X-Box today. $9 brand new, not to bad. I figured I probably wouldn't find a better deal. I popped it in for about 15 minutes and *YAWN* nothing new except young Geese and he's even boring. But I figured that's what it would be like, that's why I never rushed out to buy it.

I'd much rather just play my 2K2. That's got at least 10 more characters over Neowave. They should've made Neowave a Dream-match kinda game. Bring all the characters back with some diffrent versions of each. Kinda like SF Alpha 3. Even throw in some of the old music and Backgrounds.

Yeah, I like KOF 02 a lot better. KOF 03 is cool just because it has a tag feature (too bad MvC2 never made it online), but KOF 02 has a bigger and better roster IMO (I <3 Vanessa :oops: ). I really do love that tag feature though. I just wish it was a little faster, like in MvC2.

I think I'll keep Neowave for collection purposes more than anything. I don't think I have tried that onlione yet.

I should get around to my copy of 02/03. Do any of you guys still play it on Live?

Heck yeah. Just send me a pm or post here when you want to get online. If I have the time I'll be there.

[Rodimus]

Yeah, I like KOF 02 a lot better. KOF 03 is cool just because it has a tag feature (too bad MvC2 never made it online), but KOF 02 has a bigger and better roster IMO (I <3 Vanessa :oops: ). I really do love that tag feature though. I just wish it was a little faster, like in MvC2.

That's also why I like 2K2 more than 2K3. The roster is awsome. The tag feature in 2K3 is great, but presonally seems a bit out of place for KOF. It feels like SNK threw it in there because that was the standard thanks to Capcom. I've always prefered the team battles to KOF more. I just wish they'd bring back some of my other favorites I haven't seen in years, like Krauser and Heavy D.

[kainzero]

kof 2k2 is fun, never played against real people though... i played kula/athena/vanessa. i could never do vanessa's crazy infinite BC combos though =X

a lot of people didn't like kof 2k3 because of how broken duolon was... he has easy as pie 100% combos and a sick 50/50 mixup after his bnb combo (which was also insanely easy to get a combo off of). unlike mvc2, which is balanced and fun even with only 8 "playable" characters... 2k3 is just a sad duolon fest.

[RelentlessRolento]

well from the sound of it, the pinicales of KoF are most liekly 98 and XI

[Jimbo Slice]

well from the sound of it, the pinicales of KoF are most liekly 98 and XI


Definately agree with that. For some reason I like 96 alot to.

[Jimbo Slice]

Sorry for double post, but just wanted to say thanks to MM for the info. If I'm having problems with devhook, i'll report back and seek further assistance :)

[gigan54]

Definately agree with that. For some reason I like 96 alot to.

ooh there's a reason... three of them: mr. big, krauser and geese;)

[depascal22]

RodimusDonut -- Thanks for the info. I have KOF Dream Match '99 for the DC but not '98. Was it released in the US? We might have played SamShoV during the first couple days it was out. I jumped in and didn't really like who I was playing against so I just played the CPU until Neowave came out.

Guile -- I'll shoot you a friend request once I get a little practice in unless you're looking to beat the snot out of a KOF noob.



Is SamShoVI the same thing as SamSho Tenka? I've heard of Tenka alot on SRK but all I know is that it's supposedly much much better than V. One more SamSho question. Has anyone played SamShoIII for the Saturn? I just picked up a JAP Saturn and I'm looking to round out my fighting game collection for the system.

[GuilewasNK]

Guile -- I'll shoot you a friend request once I get a little practice in unless you're looking to beat the snot out of a KOF noob.

Take your time man. I am by no means an expert on the game myself.

[MarkMan]

98/XI FTW.

Duolon was fun to use, but not to fight against :( !

lol.

CE Bison is fun too... in that exact same respect.

[Rodimus]

RodimusDonut -- Thanks for the info. I have KOF Dream Match '99 for the DC but not '98. Was it released in the US? We might have played SamShoV during the first couple days it was out. I jumped in and didn't really like who I was playing against so I just played the CPU until Neowave came out.

Guile -- I'll shoot you a friend request once I get a little practice in unless you're looking to beat the snot out of a KOF noob.



Is SamShoVI the same thing as SamSho Tenka? I've heard of Tenka alot on SRK but all I know is that it's supposedly much much better than V. One more SamSho question. Has anyone played SamShoIII for the Saturn? I just picked up a JAP Saturn and I'm looking to round out my fighting game collection for the system.

The wierd thing about KOF 98' on the Dreamcast, is it's called KOF 99' Dream Match. At the time they decided to change the year since the game was released for the system in 99' and they didn't want to confuse gamers. Also I think Sega demanded to change the year so gamers didn't think they were buying an old game. So the one you have is the real KOF 98'. And the real KOF 99 is dubbed "Evolution." Kinda confusing.

And Samsho Tenka and SamSho VI are diffrent games.

If you want to get a good SamSho for the Saturn get SamSho IV. In fact I have one for trade if you're intrested. Just CML for other Saturn fighter, I got a couple.

[depascal22]

The wierd thing about KOF 98' on the Dreamcast, is it's called KOF 99' Dream Match. At the time they decided to change the year since the game was released for the system in 99' and they didn't want to confuse gamers. Also I think Sega demanded to change the year so gamers didn't think they were buying an old game. So the one you have is the real KOF 98'. And the real KOF 99 is dubbed "Evolution." Kinda confusing.

And Samsho Tenka and SamSho VI are diffrent games.

If you want to get a good SamSho for the Saturn get SamSho IV. In fact I have one for trade if you're intrested. Just CML for other Saturn fighter, I got a couple.

Whew. I'm glad I don't have to go out and find another version of KOF. I got lucky and found it at a garage sale a few weeks ago. I'll give it a go after I get a little practice with 2k2. Any suggestions on characters that are noob friendly for either game?

I'd love to trade for your SamShoIV but I don't have any of your wants yet. I might be able to score Metal Slug and Conker pretty soon.

[Rodimus]

Joe, Iori, Terry, Athena, Ryo, and Robert are universly easy to use in all KOF games. Of course they can be learned to a higher degree.

[gigan54]

terry and ryo are the easiest snk characters to use.

if you like charger characters, then go with kim and ralf.

[GuilewasNK]

Joe's CvS2 taunt is one of the best taunts when you are beating the crap out of someone. :lol:

[SilverPaw750]

Joe's CvS2 taunt is one of the best taunts when you are beating the crap out of someone. :lol:
Dan's Super Taunt > You.

[Rodimus]

terry and ryo are the easiest snk characters to use.

if you like charger characters, then go with kim and ralf.

Or Ash. aka: the SNK Guile rip off. Heidern is also a unique charging character, although his apperances in the series stopped after 2K1.

[kainzero]

i hear 2k2 is all about ABC... athena, billy, choi.

athena is so fun to use in 2k2. throw a fireball, teleport forward, and the screen doesn't move backwards so you get a free "corner" trap. =P plus she's a zoner character in a game of combos. it's too bad she got really toned down after that... she's so crappy in XI.

never used billy or choi though.

leona is fun too. v-slasher combos just look so cool =P i also liked o. chris just so i can do 16-hit combos that barely do any damage, although the consensus is that regular chris is much better.

now 98... i can't play that game. the controls are too tight and i can barely pull off a super =X

[depascal22]

Thank you very much for all your input everyone. Now I just have to pick which game I'm going to play first. I managed to pick up most of them for cheap and now I'm stuck with the tough decision between '95, '97, '98, '00, '01, '02, '03, and Neowave. I'm down to '98 and '02 as my top 2 choices to pick up and learn. It's really tough to get back into 2D fighters after being away for so long. Before I picked up Guilty Gear Reload 2 years ago, I hadn't played a 2D fighter since I had Super Street Fighter II for the Genesis!

[RelentlessRolento]

i hear 2k2 is all about ABC... athena, billy, choi.

athena is so fun to use in 2k2. throw a fireball, teleport forward, and the screen doesn't move backwards so you get a free "corner" trap. =P plus she's a zoner character in a game of combos. it's too bad she got really toned down after that... she's so crappy in XI.

never used billy or choi though.

leona is fun too. v-slasher combos just look so cool =P i also liked o. chris just so i can do 16-hit combos that barely do any damage, although the consensus is that regular chris is much better.

now 98... i can't play that game. the controls are too tight and i can barely pull off a super =X

hey, any game that lets you abuse Billy Kane is good... heck, any game with billy kane is good.

[SilverPaw750]

I don't know if anyone will agree with me, but I really didn't like 00/01...they were just kinda...blah games.

Good KOF games:
'97, '02, '03, Neowave (nothing new, but still a good game)

Haven't played XI :(

[Jimbo Slice]

Hey Chacrana, me and you are on sblymnlcrymnl's ignore list for some reason. He just posted it in some OTT. I don't know why, but I think it's pretty funny. Never talked to the guy in my life.

[Rodimus]

I don't know if anyone will agree with me, but I really didn't like 00/01...they were just kinda...blah games.

Good KOF games:
'97, '02, '03, Neowave (nothing new, but still a good game)

Haven't played XI :(

I think 97' is the worst to own if you want the best of the KOF collection. It was the end of the Orochi Saga, however gamplay-wise if you have 98' there's no reason to own 97'. KOF 98' includes all the characters 97' has plus more (except Orochi and Blood Riot Iori) Also I hated the ambient crowd noise instead of actual BG music.

As for Billy Kane, he's always been my favorite fighting game character. I'm humble most of the time, but I must admit I rock with Billy Kane.

[gigan54]

in case anybody wants one, Big Bad Toy Store has a 27% off sale going on for most items. you can pick up some SOTA street fighter toys on the cheap. I picked up a guile for a little over 5 and a bowser w/ kart figure for 3. I also picked up a king ghidora figure for 13 and change (the usual go rate for these are $24 at my local anime store)


linkage to video game related figures.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/general.aspx?general=15

[RelentlessRolento]

Hey Chacrana, me and you are on sblymnlcrymnl's ignore list for some reason. He just posted it in some OTT. I don't know why, but I think it's pretty funny. Never talked to the guy in my life.


???

he was always nice on the fighter boards so it makes no sense? hes proabbly off somewhere being emo about it or playing his basement of too many games.

oh and some may want to read this:

http://www.gamebrink.com/playstation-2/1695-Melty_Blood_Act_Cadenza-reviews.html

[Apossum]

looks he has most of CAg on his ignore list :lol:

he shouldn't take things so personally...not good for the heart, or something.

[Chacrana]

Hey Chacrana, me and you are on sblymnlcrymnl's ignore list for some reason. He just posted it in some OTT. I don't know why, but I think it's pretty funny. Never talked to the guy in my life.

Lol, well that's interesting. I guessed that informed people with even subtle senses of humor shouldn't have to be dealt with on message boards. I've never talked to him before, but I doubt I'd want to now. He's such a fucking loser. He should kill himself because he's worthless. Fuck him.

See, he can't even read that. :lol: . I guess that I just like justifying somebody choosing to ignore me.

[kristianator]

where can one see this ignore list?

[Chacrana]

???

he was always nice on the fighter boards so it makes no sense? hes proabbly off somewhere being emo about it or playing his basement of too many games.

oh and some may want to read this:

http://www.gamebrink.com/playstation-2/1695-Melty_Blood_Act_Cadenza-reviews.html

Given the pros and the cons listed, I don't think an 85 is really a high enough score... then again, I really think MBAC should be no less thanh a 100 right now.

[Rozz]

Lol, well that's interesting. I guessed that informed people with even subtle senses of humor shouldn't have to be dealt with on message boards. I've never talked to him before, but I doubt I'd want to now. He's such a fucking loser. He should kill himself because he's worthless. Fuck him.

See, he can't even read that. :lol: . I guess that I just like justifying somebody choosing to ignore me.

Yes, I'm also on his list, and I dont recall ever talking to him. I have read his posts though and he does appear to be one of the bigger idiots on this board. I dont recall him ever contributing something useful either. Who cares though - it's just another random idiot moron who probably lives in his parent's basement.

[depascal22]

I'm also on Subbie's ignore list. He's known for ignoring anyone that has any sort of opinion that differs from him. It's also known that he prefers women of the "younger" persuasion.

[Rodimus]

^ Why are we talking about that crap on the fighting thread? Who cares.

Anyone up for some X-Box live? How bout it Guile, you availible?

[GuilewasNK]

^ Why are we talking about that crap on the fighting thread? Who cares.

Anyone up for some X-Box live? How bout it Guile, you availible?

Sure.

Which game?

[RelentlessRolento]

well, it's nice to see Final Fight comming to XBLA, so any of you people hesitant about getting a 360, this may be a good turning point.

[Apossum]

^ Why are we talking about that crap on the fighting thread? Who cares.




Gentlemen! You can't fight here! this is the fighting thread! [/dork :oops: ]


Rolento-- You mean Fatal Fury? I sure hope you mean Final Fight!


anyway, I'm not too psyched about FFSpecial, but hope its a sign of things to come. not really a fan of the earlier snk games, though I'll definitely get this.

[Chacrana]

Yeah, earlier SNK games are pretty uninteresting... save for maybe Samsho 2... but it does bode well for future XBL Arcade offerings.

[MarkMan]

Wow. I think I'll start playing SFII:HF more on XBLA. The ppl on Texas Holdem' are COMPLETE idiots and just go ALL in all day before the flop.

So fuckin' annoying. lol.

BTW. I'm SOOOO glad it's Fatal Fury Special instead of 1 or 2 lol.

[evilmax17]

Did Fist of the North Star or RumbleFish ever come out? It seemed like they were getting some decent publicity, and then...nothing. If they've been out for awhile, then I guess it's safe to assume they won't be coming stateside...

[Rodimus]

Yeah, earlier SNK games are pretty uninteresting... save for maybe Samsho 2... but it does bode well for future XBL Arcade offerings.

Really? I always enjoyed their early games. While SF was busy making clones, I was enjoying SNK fighters among others. KOF 95' hooked me.

Anyone remember the TMNT fighting game? The SNES version was really fun.

[RelentlessRolento]

Gentlemen! You can't fight here! this is the fighting thread! [/dork :oops: ]


Rolento-- You mean Fatal Fury? I sure hope you mean Final Fight!


anyway, I'm not too psyched about FFSpecial, but hope its a sign of things to come. not really a fan of the earlier snk games, though I'll definitely get this.

yeah, whoops! slip of the wishfull tounge!

:lol: sadly after making those statements I find out my 360 can't read discs anymore. Other than that I'm stuck with XBL downloads and games, whihc isnt totally bad. I called Msoft and am getting a repair, so in about 2 weeks, it's back to discs (and my odd horrible enjoyment of Rumble Roses XX). I'm not pissed since there's nothing really new I want other than Lumines Live, so I'm not fretting.

[GuilewasNK]

I was on Live until ten minutes ago Rodimus but I didn't see you. Maybe next time.

[Chacrana]

yeah, whoops! slip of the wishfull tounge!

:lol: sadly after making those statements I find out my 360 can't read discs anymore. Other than that I'm stuck with XBL downloads and games, whihc isnt totally bad. I called Msoft and am getting a repair, so in about 2 weeks, it's back to discs (and my odd horrible enjoyment of Rumble Roses XX). I'm not pissed since there's nothing really new I want other than Lumines Live, so I'm not fretting.

It's interesting, because if you go on the 360 forum, people are like "dude, you're a fanboy my 360 never broke idiot." MS really needs to fix their fucking system. I got a DRE about a week ago, but I haven't had an issue since then... so hopefully things won't get worse.

[RelentlessRolento]

Wow. I think I'll start playing SFII:HF more on XBLA. The ppl on Texas Holdem' are COMPLETE idiots and just go ALL in all day before the flop.

So fuckin' annoying. lol.




I think a large reason why is because alot of people don't know how to play poker. I downloaded it since it was free and mainly for some acheivements, but I had and still have no idea how to play, though I have learned quite a bit after downloading the game.

Chacrana- keep your eye on that DRE. It can start small, but slowly get worse like mine.

[RelentlessRolento]

something very strange though some of you MK haters wont care:

motaro will be in armageddon, but uh... with two legs?

Image:
http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/perl/cds.cgi?external_action=displayImage&id=1600

[BustaUppa]

Ha ha yeah, Motaro is a big ol' fawn now. I assume they did that so the Fatalities and throws would work on him. I'm curious to see how they work that into the storyline, lol.

[Chacrana]

Did Fist of the North Star or RumbleFish ever come out? It seemed like they were getting some decent publicity, and then...nothing. If they've been out for awhile, then I guess it's safe to assume they won't be coming stateside...


With a lot of 2D fighters, it's safe to assume that the games won't come stateside... unfortunately though, there's still not a PS2 version of FOTNs on the horizon even in Japan... I really hope that'll change soon.

[apokalipze2]

Not sure if it's been posted but apparently arcsystem is working on an update to GuityGear called Accent Core. A lot of stuff is being changed too to balance out the game. http://www.guiltygearx.com/ I think it's pretty lame seeing how slash is barely 1 year old and we have another one coming sooo quick

[Chacrana]

Yeah, I kinda wish that Arc would work on something new... GG's probably my favorite fighting game ever and I'd really like to see something completely different come out of Arc for once.

[RelentlessRolento]

wow... jeeze, I started liking GG for the first few years, but it's starting to take the rehash lifestyle like SF.

[GuilewasNK]

wow... jeeze, I started liking GG for the first few years, but it's starting to take the rehash lifestyle like SF.

I haven't even opened Isuka yet. I was hoping an Xbox version would come down the line, but I doubt it now.

[MarkMan]

I think Arc Systems is doin a great job with Guilty Gear... well in Japan at least, we get shafted here like no other thanks to Sony.

A new company ALMOST had Sony's approval to bring GGXX Slash here but alas, it was never meant to be. :(

GG is so popular in Japanese arcades. They're always listening to the players to see what can be improved/balanced.

[RelentlessRolento]

:lol: I'm guessing alot of 2d gaming in the US never happening can be largely blamed on sony... heck, I'm guessing 2d is a word we wont see ever on the PS3 :(

[Rozz]

I haven't even opened Isuka yet. I was hoping an Xbox version would come down the line, but I doubt it now.
I just opened my copy from a few months ago. There is an online enabled Japanese version, but unfortunately it will never be released Stateside. It's probably not that strong of an entry anyway.... my friend gave it a try and didnt like it too much. Still, it never hurts to have a half-decent online fighter in your collection. I didnt even mind SVC Chaos for Xbox.

Heres the Japanese box-art for the Xbox version, by the way:

http://www.wonderworld.it/catalog/images/GuiltyGearIsukaXBOXK.jpg

[depascal22]

:lol: I'm guessing alot of 2d gaming in the US never happening can be largely blamed on sony... heck, I'm guessing 2d is a word we wont see ever on the PS3 :(

Yeah, but we'll be able to easily import all the games coming from Japan thanks to the PS3 having region free encoding.

[RelentlessRolento]

Yeah, but we'll be able to easily import all the games coming from Japan thanks to the PS3 having region free encoding.


the problem with that is that it hasn't been confirmed with PS2 and PS1 games yet... I hope so.

[depascal22]

Same here but at least we don't have to worry about modding a 600 dollar console to play the PS3 versions of all the fighters.

[GuilewasNK]

Same here but at least we don't have to worry about modding a 600 dollar console to play the PS3 versions of all the fighters.

Region encoding has always been a stupid idea IMO.

[asianxcore]

SNK news at the Tokyo Game Show:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/728/728252p1.html

Sorry if this has already been posted.

[depascal22]

Region encoding has always been a stupid idea IMO.

Very true. Hopefully, all the good fighters get a PS3 release so we don't even have to worry about having a modded PS2.

[GuilewasNK]

If the PS3 is region free for PS One and PS2 games also, my opinion of the machine will definitely swing in its favor over the Wii and 360. It may be a pretty penny to get those imported games, but to play them out the box is the way it should be. IIRC Nintendo portables have always been region-free and it never killed their market.

[BustaUppa]

I honestly never understood how region-encoding benefits ANYBODY, on either side of the economic equation. Does anyone understand why this is done? I'm not being rhetorical here either, I'm legitimately curious as to why this is done.

I'm glad to see PS3 is doing away with it. What I'm wondering is how the region-free aspect is actually implemented. Can the PS3 itself read discs from any region? Or will the PS3 games simply be region-free?

How about Blu-Ray movies... are they region protected? That may provide some insight.

If the region-freedom is simply based on the discs themselves being region-free, then that kind of casts doubt on import PS1/2 games working. But if PS3 is actually designed to read multi-region discs, we may be on to something great here.

[ratzombie]

I just opened my copy from a few months ago. There is an online enabled Japanese version, but unfortunately it will never be released Stateside. It's probably not that strong of an entry anyway.... my friend gave it a try and didnt like it too much. Still, it never hurts to have a half-decent online fighter in your collection. I didnt even mind SVC Chaos for Xbox.

Heres the Japanese box-art for the Xbox version, by the way:

http://www.wonderworld.it/catalog/images/GuiltyGearIsukaXBOXK.jpg

Doesn't matter, Isuka is terrible.

[kainzero]

I honestly never understood how region-encoding benefits ANYBODY, on either side of the economic equation. Does anyone understand why this is done? I'm not being rhetorical here either, I'm legitimately curious as to why this is done.

i remember reading about it, but not a lot. obviously, there's piracy issues... but i think one of the major things is import/export control, like if there's a game out here that's $20 but in japan it's $40 they don't want everyone buying the US one. kinda like what we're doing now to those english asian versions.

[Roufuss]

Yep, Sony hates 2-D... can't wait until Disgaea 2 comes out this week on my Sony Playstation 2, how can this be?!?

[SilverPaw750]

Oh...my...god...Arc System Works NEEDS to make a new game, whether it be a new Guilty Gear or otherwise. They've whored what is essentially the same game too many times (Guilty Gear X, XX, XX#, Slash, now this), with just incremental changes between each, and the changes between each game are just getting less and less.

[DomLando]

I agree that arc systems has whored GG. But I am one of the people that buys each new iteriation because I love the series so much. I do wish a new game in the series would be released though. And I always dream of how Street Fighter or KoF would look with GG's graphics.

[depascal22]

I agree that arc systems has whored GG. But I am one of the people that buys each new iteriation because I love the series so much. I do wish a new game in the series would be released though. And I always dream of how Street Fighter or KoF would look with GG's graphics.

I'm just waiting for another Capcom vs SNK or even a Capcom vs Sammy game! That would be sweet....

[RelentlessRolento]

I'm just waiting for another Capcom vs SNK or even a Capcom vs Sammy game! That would be sweet....


the last SNK vs Capcom title will be Cardfighters DS. SNK has officiall stated that was the last title that will ever have a capcom vs tie in.

[ratzombie]

the last SNK vs Capcom title will be Cardfighters DS. SNK has officiall stated that was the last title that will ever have a capcom vs tie in.

Hopefully it's good, the style seems kind of meh...

[RelentlessRolento]

Hopefully it's good, the style seems kind of meh...


:lol: try telling that to the legion of falcoon fans. I myself am okay with the art. I'm neither for it or against it.

[ratzombie]

:lol: try telling that to the legion of falcoon fans. I myself am okay with the art. I'm neither for it or against it.

Well, I'm sure cards will look awesome. I think my main dislike is the look of the main protagonist(s).

I think I'm just too used to that awesome oldschool NGPC art. :lol:

[RelentlessRolento]

Well, I'm sure cards will look awesome. I think my main dislike is the look of the main protagonist(s).

I think I'm just too used to that awesome oldschool NGPC art. :lol:


well, we can all hope for he retun of white pale skinned people as a comeback. All I really ask from SNK is that they have the return of Mask, since he was basiclly the ultimate badass in the game.

[RelentlessRolento]

straight from namco, the latests on tekken 6!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcR9ibsQYCI

[Odenat]

speaking of tekken, is the tekken 5 arcade stick bundle worth the $70 price tag at EB?

[MarkMan]

^^ If you have a Fry's Electronics near you, try to get it there. It's $49.99.

But I'd say yes. It's worth the $70. The stick is really good and probably one of the best out the box sticks there is.

All the stuff that's better than it is either crazy expensive or you'd have to import.

[MarkMan]

BTW.

Forgot to mention.

Virtua Fighter 5 actually has a US beta testing going on in Chicago. At Gameworks. Check it out if you're close by!

Looks like media outlets won't be getting Virtua Fighter 5 loaner boards as they are TOO expensive (MarkMan is sad). The arcade unit itself costs 50,000 USD. Youch.

And with all the talk of Guilty Gear as of late. Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LVB6UzKVNQ

[DomLando]

the last SNK vs Capcom title will be Cardfighters DS. SNK has officiall stated that was the last title that will ever have a capcom vs tie in.
Just curious when and where that was stated. And that does suck that we will not get another Capcom Vs SNK.

[depascal22]

Maybe we can get a Capcom vs Sammy game. It probably won't happen since the next Guilty Gear will probably not come over from Japan.


I was just wondering what your guys' favorite fighting games and fighting game series are. I would go with Street Fighter II(big surprise there) and the Virtua Fighter series.

[GuilewasNK]

Maybe we can get a Capcom vs Sammy game. It probably won't happen since the next Guilty Gear will probably not come over from Japan.


I was just wondering what your guys' favorite fighting games and fighting game series are. I would go with Street Fighter II(big surprise there) and the Virtua Fighter series.

For favorite game it's a toss-up between Marvel vs. Capcom 2, Samurai Shodown IV, and Project Justice for me.

Samurai Shodown is my favorite series simply because in college that's what me and my friends would always play. We had two Neo machines, one with SS II and Puzzle Bobble, the other with SS IV and KOF 94.

[Chacrana]

BTW.

Forgot to mention.

Virtua Fighter 5 actually has a US beta testing going on in Chicago. At Gameworks. Check it out if you're close by!

Looks like media outlets won't be getting Virtua Fighter 5 loaner boards as they are TOO expensive (MarkMan is sad). The arcade unit itself costs 50,000 USD. Youch.

And with all the talk of Guilty Gear as of late. Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LVB6UzKVNQ

Gameworks has it?

Hmm... haven't been there in years, but I'm kinda interested in going now. I do think it's kind of funny though that the arcade unit costs $50000 while the PS3 version will probably cost $60 and have a Kumite mode equivalent.

God, I'm really tempted to go to Gameworks and just blow an entire day there now.

[Jimbo Slice]

Gameworks has it?

Hmm... haven't been there in years, but I'm kinda interested in going now. I do think it's kind of funny though that the arcade unit costs $50000 while the PS3 version will probably cost $60 and have a Kumite mode equivalent.

God, I'm really tempted to go to Gameworks and just blow an entire day there now.

Do it and report back!

[asianxcore]

Thanks for the GGXX Accent Core vid MarkMan.

Now I'm wondering if I should hold off on XX Slash, hoping that they'll put XX Accent Core on PS2 in the future. Hmm..

[Roufuss]

Arc Systems is the biggest one trick pony there is... damn, ANOTHER Guilty Gear XX variation? Can't they develop anything new??

The damn game just looks the same as the last 800... at least KoF changed things up year after year.

[depascal22]

I'm not getting another Guilty Gear game until it gets released on the PS3. It's just not worth it to keep buying these updates.

[Darkside Hazuki]

Gameworks has it?

No......freaking.......way........

If that's true, expect a report from me by the end of the week.

[depascal22]

Any chance any other Gameworks would get VF5? If it's gonna be in Vegas, I'll make a stop when I make my West Coast swing in Nov/Dec.

[Jimbo Slice]

I just got ousted from the SF2 tournament by rsigley. He's really good, he had me in the corner and did the Balrog re-dizzy. He ended up beating me 5-2.

[asianxcore]

random question.

Is KOF 2003 worth getting?

[GuilewasNK]

random question.

Is KOF 2003 worth getting?

I think so. The KOF 02/03 pack is a good value.




Anyone play EvilZone before? I was trying it out this morning and it's pretty neat. The controls are very simplified but the action is pretty fun and I like the story mode turning each battle into an "episode" with narration.

[BustaUppa]

I just got ousted from the SF2 tournament by rsigley. He's really good, he had me in the corner and did the Balrog re-dizzy. He ended up beating me 5-2.I've had rsigley whip my ass IN PERSON in umk3... that guy knows what he's doing!

Is anyone going to NEC in Philly? I'll be there with the MK crew.

[depascal22]

Which version of KOF '02/'03 is better? Import DC, PS2, or Xbox?

[metroid85]

Which version of KOF '02/'03 is better? Import DC, PS2, or Xbox?
I prefer the DC version of '02 as the controls feel tighter(even with a dc pad), plus the graphics don't look that pixelated like in the PS2 version. But I'd go with the 02/03 double pack, the extra stages, added characters (Geese, Goenitz, Riot Iori in 02, and playable Adel and Mukai in 03) more than make up for it. However the PS2 version seems to be hard to find anywhere, cept eBay.

[ratzombie]

I think so. The KOF 02/03 pack is a good value.

Anyone play EvilZone before? I was trying it out this morning and it's pretty neat. The controls are very simplified but the action is pretty fun and I like the story mode turning each battle into an "episode" with narration.

I've played it a couple of times, my girlfriend really likes it though.

[RelentlessRolento]

http://www.gametab.com/boxart/boxes/unofficial/ds/1494.jpg

[Chacrana]

If only...

[RelentlessRolento]

If only...


...with wifi.

[SilverPaw750]

If only...
Oh come on. Street Fighter would suck on DS. The screen is small, and what function would the second screen, microphone, or the touchpad have? God forbid a Street Fighter with forced touch controls. Or maybe you could yell "Hadoken" into the mic to execute a fireball.:lol:

[RelentlessRolento]

Oh come on. Street Fighter would suck on DS. The screen is small, and what function would the second screen, microphone, or the touchpad have? God forbid a Street Fighter with forced touch controls. Or maybe you could yell "Hadoken" into the mic to execute a fireball.:lol:


one note: wrong. SFA3 on GBA rocked and KoF DS will be good as well.

[Jimbo Slice]

I've had rsigley whip my ass IN PERSON in umk3... that guy knows what he's doing!

Is anyone going to NEC in Philly? I'll be there with the MK crew.

Chances are that I'll go. I haven't been to any tournaments in like a good year. Got a link with more info/dates/games etc.?

Also, I'd like to play you in UMK. Haven't got to much good competition except the people at UP.

[Rodimus]

Oh come on. Street Fighter would suck on DS. The screen is small, and what function would the second screen, microphone, or the touchpad have? God forbid a Street Fighter with forced touch controls. Or maybe you could yell "Hadoken" into the mic to execute a fireball.:lol:

I kinda have to agree. However the small screen doesn't bother me, as long as it's true to the series. But that would never happen. Capcom (or whoever) would confuse us by adding useless DS crap to the main gameplay, like the dual screen or touch screen. The idea is good, but it would never become what the "fans" want it to be.

Look at Guilty Gear DS. It would've been awsome if they kept it 1 on 1 without the dual screen platform. I think KOF Howling Blood 2 is great for the GBA. All the DS would have to do is make the resolution of the sprites a bit higher and have it WiFi compatible.

[RelentlessRolento]

I kinda have to agree. However the small screen doesn't bother me, as long as it's true to the series. But that would never happen. Capcom (or whoever) would confuse us by adding useless DS crap to the main gameplay, like the dual screen or touch screen. The idea is good, but it would never become what the "fans" want it to be.

Look at Guilty Gear DS. It would've been awsome if they kept it 1 on 1 without the dual screen platform. I think KOF Howling Blood 2 is great for the GBA. All the DS would have to do is make the resolution of the sprites a bit higher and have it WiFi compatible.


as long as it plays like street fighter, then it's good. if it's touch screen, then yes it would suck. just because a title goes on the DS dosn't mean it has to heavily use the touch or micraphone functions (look at new super mario bros).

Hey, at least KoF is comming out on DS, which makes me happy (plus the possible wifi). if SF were to go onto DS, I'd wish for it to be the EX series for some odd reason... I want to go back and play those... maybe it's time I finally pick up horrible SFEX3.

[Chacrana]

Don't pick up SFEX 3. It's awful, you know it's awful, and we know it's awful. Friends don't let friends buy shitty games.

[RelentlessRolento]

Don't pick up SFEX 3. It's awful, you know it's awful, and we know it's awful. Friends don't let friends buy shitty games.


I enjoyed EX2 mildly and don't forget I like Rumble Roses... I'm a sucker for mediocrety :)

[asianxcore]

Oh come on. Street Fighter would suck on DS. The screen is small, and what function would the second screen, microphone, or the touchpad have? God forbid a Street Fighter with forced touch controls. Or maybe you could yell "Hadoken" into the mic to execute a fireball.:lol:

I played my friend's copy of SF Revival for GBA, and it was actually pretty responsive. You do have a point that none of the touch controls or the DS functionality would make sense. It would be nice just to have that game Wi-Fi and portable :)

KOF 02/03 seems to be really hard to find on PS2. I can't seem to find it anywhere other than Ebay (as Metroid85) mentioned. I was originally going to get the double pack, but I won an import copy of KOF 2002 on Ebay last night for $11.50.

I'm still looking for a mint copy of KOF 98' and 99' for Dreamcast. Also what systems were KOF 2003 released for?

[ratzombie]

I wouldn't mind some unique/fun mini games for a Street Fighter DS, just don't make it the main game.

[Rodimus]

Rolento - I like the SF EX series also. What's so bad about it?

[Roufuss]

I played my friend's copy of SF Revival for GBA, and it was actually pretty responsive. You do have a point that none of the touch controls or the DS functionality would make sense. It would be nice just to have that game Wi-Fi and portable :)

KOF 02/03 seems to be really hard to find on PS2. I can't seem to find it anywhere other than Ebay (as Metroid85) mentioned. I was originally going to get the double pack, but I won an import copy of KOF 2002 on Ebay last night for $11.50.

I'm still looking for a mint copy of KOF 98' and 99' for Dreamcast. Also what systems were KOF 2003 released for?

KoF 2003 was just on PS2 / Xbox.

And damn, I wish I knew you were looking for all these KoF games because I just sold mint copies of every KoF game on the DC on Ebay a month or so back :(

[asianxcore]

KoF 2003 was just on PS2 / Xbox.

And damn, I wish I knew you were looking for all these KoF games because I just sold mint copies of every KoF game on the DC on Ebay a month or so back :(

Damn. In the end, how much did you get for each game?

I just bought a 3 month XBL card (360) to try out. I'm always up for DOA 4.

I have SF, but I downright suck at it now :)

[Roufuss]

Damn. In the end, how much did you get for each game?

I just bought a 3 month XBL card (360) to try out. I'm always up for DOA 4.

I have SF, but I downright suck at it now :)

Not alot... I think it was like $15 per game. The market value for them isn't that high.

[whitereflection]

Has anyone ever played the custom mixes for Dreamcast? As in, Marvel vs. Capcom 2 with a good soundtrack? :)

[BustaUppa]

Street Fighter DS... it's definitely doable without mucking it up. The touch screen could be used for selecting your character, and then you'd basically be done with it until the next match. The pre-match "___ vs ___" image could stay on the lower screen during the actual fights. It may seem like a stretch just to get some use out of the lower screen, but really no less than what New Super Mario Bros did (aside from the minigames).

[GuilewasNK]

Has anyone ever played the custom mixes for Dreamcast? As in, Marvel vs. Capcom 2 with a good soundtrack? :)

Nope. I haven't been able to find them. I look from time to time on the newsgroups but I never see them.

[asianxcore]

do any of you guys mind if I add your XBL gamer tags to my friends list?

I started playing DOA 4 online last night, and though I suck, it's a whole lot of fun. It's sad to see "A" ranked players just wail on "C" and below players though :)

[Jimbo Slice]

do any of you guys mind if I add your XBL gamer tags to my friends list?

I started playing DOA 4 online last night, and though I suck, it's a whole lot of fun. It's sad to see "A" ranked players just wail on "C" and below players though :)

Add away!

What other 360 games do you have? I'm not so much a fan of DOA these days... it got on my nerves.

[BustaUppa]

Chances are that I'll go. I haven't been to any tournaments in like a good year. Got a link with more info/dates/games etc.?

Also, I'd like to play you in UMK. Haven't got to much good competition except the people at UP.The NEC will be Dec 2nd and 3rd (Saturday and Sunday). It's in rented out hall on the bottom floor of some hotel, I've heard it's called "America's Best" or something like that. I think the list of games are still being voted on (try the Shoryuken forums), but all the obvious tournament favorites should be there.

Is the "UP" of which you speak "University Pinball"? I've never been there but I've heard of the place. It'll definitely be nice to play you in UMK3, the more the merrier!

[Rodimus]

Has anyone ever played the custom mixes for Dreamcast? As in, Marvel vs. Capcom 2 with a good soundtrack? :)

I have one but I didn't choose the songs, it's all rap. Music with a lot of lyrics is very wierd for fighting games. Plus whoever made the custom mix had the music volume way to high, it makes it hard to hear the SFX. I'm not sure if you can change that.

But I'd like to have another one with my personal selection.

asianxcore- Add me to you list. I usually only go on about twice a week late at night. I mainly only play SF 3s.

[Jimbo Slice]

The NEC will be Dec 2nd and 3rd (Saturday and Sunday). It's in rented out hall on the bottom floor of some hotel, I've heard it's called "America's Best" or something like that. I think the list of games are still being voted on (try the Shoryuken forums), but all the obvious tournament favorites should be there.

Is the "UP" of which you speak "University Pinball"? I've never been there but I've heard of the place. It'll definitely be nice to play you in UMK3, the more the merrier!

That's the UP I speak of for sure. Great place with great competition (particularly for Marvel 2).

After the NEC events for the day are over me and you should meet up and hit UP if they aren't doing casuals.

[RelentlessRolento]

Rolento - I like the SF EX series also. What's so bad about it?


Yeah, I still think the combo system was probably the most hradcore you could ever get with a SF game that I have yet to se in other SF games. Yes, some of the character designs (actually the whole look of the game...) aren't the best, but the core gameplay is fun.

[asianxcore]

Add away!

What other 360 games do you have? I'm not so much a fan of DOA these days... it got on my nerves.

PDZ
Chromehounds
GRAW
PGR
Call of Duty 2

Those are the only ones I have that are XBL + multiplayer. I suck at FPS' online though :)

Also, thanks for the friend add Roufuss. I just sent one your way JimFoley.

[Jimbo Slice]

PDZ
Chromehounds
GRAW
PGR
Call of Duty 2

Those are the only ones I have that are XBL + multiplayer. I suck at FPS' online though :)

Sweet I have PDZ and Call of Duty 2, we'll have to play together sometime. Also, do you have Texas Hold 'Em, Uno or SF2? I'd like to get an all fighter thread room going in Hold 'Em.

2 unrelated questions

I) Where can I find a Melty Blood: AC tiers list? If it's to early for an 'official' one, can someone fill me in on who some of the better characters are?

II) Where can I get a Hori Real Arcade Pro? Playasia is backordered last time I checked. Markman, I'm looking at you in particular. If there is no webstore to order one from, would it be possible to buy one of yours?

[MarkMan]

We got a shipment of HRAP1s coming in from Hori's Los Angeles headquarters. I mean a ton. I'll keep you updated if it's a version 1 or version 2 HRAP1.(Version 2 has a HRAP2 finish on the plate instead of the mirror).

[Jimbo Slice]

We got a shipment of HRAP1s coming in from Hori's Los Angeles headquarters. I mean a ton. I'll keep you updated if it's a version 1 or version 2 HRAP1.(Version 2 has a HRAP2 finish on the plate instead of the mirror).

Thanks alot man, I truly appreciate it and I am awaiting the good word.

[RelentlessRolento]

Sweet I have PDZ and Call of Duty 2, we'll have to play together sometime. Also, do you have Texas Hold 'Em, Uno or SF2? I'd like to get an all fighter thread room going in Hold 'Em.


I automaticly shouldn't be a part of hold 'em... I suck and don't even know how to play.

[ratzombie]

I have one but I didn't choose the songs, it's all rap. Music with a lot of lyrics is very wierd for fighting games. Plus whoever made the custom mix had the music volume way to high, it makes it hard to hear the SFX. I'm not sure if you can change that.

But I'd like to have another one with my personal selection.

Here is a good tutorial on how to make your own custom soundtrack for MvC2: http://dhost.info/combomasher/index.html

(Although it seems to be down, it was working like a week ago so it should be back up soon.)

Anyone try that "Accurate Mix" MvC2 that is floating around? I just saw it at http://www.mininova.org, and it seems like it would be pretty good.

[Jimbo Slice]

The NEC will be Dec 2nd and 3rd (Saturday and Sunday). It's in rented out hall on the bottom floor of some hotel, I've heard it's called "America's Best" or something like that. I think the list of games are still being voted on (try the Shoryuken forums), but all the obvious tournament favorites should be there.

Is the "UP" of which you speak "University Pinball"? I've never been there but I've heard of the place. It'll definitely be nice to play you in UMK3, the more the merrier!

I've been meaning to ask you, who do you play in UMK? I use Reptile and Human Smoke mostly, but know how to play at least half the cast.

[RelentlessRolento]

I've been meaning to ask you, who do you play in UMK? I use Reptile and Human Smoke mostly, but know how to play at least half the cast.

I know the question wasn't for me, but I primarily enjoy reptile, even though I still never remember his invisability move...

[MarkMan]

Yo. We just got our shipment of HRAP1 version 1 and 2 in today. I'll post a link up as soon as we count our shipment.

[whitereflection]

Here is a good tutorial on how to make your own custom soundtrack for MvC2: http://dhost.info/combomasher/index.html

(Although it seems to be down, it was working like a week ago so it should be back up soon.)

Anyone try that "Accurate Mix" MvC2 that is floating around? I just saw it at http://www.mininova.org, and it seems like it would be pretty good.

Haha... I was just telling a few users here about it. The MvC2 Accurate Mix is one of my favorite releases, but I strongly recommend that you don't look at the track listing; you'll think it's crap until you try it.

It was just upped on underground-gamer the other day. It's a closed community, so you'll need an invite (don't have any, sorry), but it's very well-seeded.

[kainzero]

why would anyone change the music in mvc2?

i mean, how could anyone get tired of

"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"

[ratzombie]

Haha... I was just telling a few users here about it. The MvC2 Accurate Mix is one of my favorite releases, but I strongly recommend that you don't look at the track listing; you'll think it's crap until you try it.

It was just upped on underground-gamer the other day. It's a closed community, so you'll need an invite (don't have any, sorry), but it's very well-seeded.
Heh, I know. http://underground-gamer.com/userdetails.php?id=28582

I didn't know it was already being seeded at underground-gamer, most excellent. The one at mininova wasn't being seeded very well.

Here is a preview video of the songs in action with the gameplay:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5867603749800409241

And... I'M GONNA TAKE YOU FOR a RIIIIIIIIIDE!

[Chacrana]

Some people I know at my school brought their Dreamcast, so it's time to get back into MVC2 and Project Justice... should be interesting considering that I haven't played those in years.

[BustaUppa]

I've been meaning to ask you, who do you play in UMK? I use Reptile and Human Smoke mostly, but know how to play at least half the cast.Over the last year or so I've really been getting into Kano. My "old standbys" now tend to be Kano, Sindel, Sonya, and sometimes Liu Kang. I really like Kabal too but it's almost "impolite" to use him since he's so damn good, lol. A lot of times when I'm fightig people on Kaillera we just end up doing random select all the time. Which is cool, because at times I've been forced into learning a character that I never would have chosen normally. Do you play on Kaillera at all?

[RelentlessRolento]

Some people I know at my school brought their Dreamcast, so it's time to get back into MVC2 and Project Justice... should be interesting considering that I haven't played those in years.


play project justice mainly... it never gets enough competitve play as it should, unlike MvC2 which has gotten too much play.

[asianxcore]

Sweet I have PDZ and Call of Duty 2, we'll have to play together sometime. Also, do you have Texas Hold 'Em, Uno or SF2? I'd like to get an all fighter thread room going in Hold 'Em.

Yup, I have all 3.

[RelentlessRolento]

Love it or hate it, MK Unchained is comming to PSP:

http://mkarmageddon.com/MKU/

I'll probably pick it up since I always find myself playing my portables more than home consoles... probably a good thign that Tekken DR came out on PSP, since I am still playing it like crazy...

[kainzero]

play project justice mainly... it never gets enough competitve play as it should, unlike MvC2 which has gotten too much play.

probably because of tardy counters that make it hard to do much of anything...

mvc2 is fun because it's broken in a strangely fun manner.

[BustaUppa]

Back in the day, did any of you guys encounter the HACKED Street Fighter II Champion Edition cabinets? I saw quite a few of these, and I was wondering if this was pretty widespread or if my area just happened to be an epicenter of illegal PCB activity. It was weird, because when MAME started supporting these hacked versions I was like "whoooooa, I REMEMBER that!"

The first time I saw one of these was at a little antique store, and the guy behind the counter insisted that it was "Street Fighter 3" (this was in 1992). Sure enough, the cabinet had a very crappy-looking "Street Fighter III" marquee made up for it, and as a naive 10-year-old that was all the convincing I needed. Even though the in-game title screen still said "II," and the graphics were identical, I insisted on believing this was the real deal and I called all my friends to tell them about it.

Then there was a card store across the street with a different hack, a Pizza Hut down the block with another one, and off the top of my head I remember at least one mall and a "United Skates" skating rink that had another one (which was labeled "Street Fighter II Accelerator" on the title screen). And I know there were more that I encountered, but I'm forgetting a lot.

There was a lot of weird stuff in these versions; almost all of them allowed mid-match character changing by pressing start, and any special move could be done in midair (allowing you to jump afterwards, so you could keep doing specials and jumping until you went off the top of the screen and eventually came up through the bottom). Projectiles usually travelled up and down in a wave pattern as they travelled across the screen. In most cases, weak attacks would produce extremely slow special moves, while heavy attacks would produce RIDICULOUSLY fast moves.

Each version had it's own set of oddities, I'll just list some that I remember from various versions:

- Ryu and Ken shot two hadokens at a time
- Dragon punches would release a column of hadokens; the Jab version was particularly insane as it would produce a slow-moving hadoken wall of death that was impossible to jump over
- Spinning Clothesline would shoot a Yoga Flame out of Zangief's feet
- Tiger Uppercut shot a Yoga Flame out of Sagat's midsection (they seemed to tack on Yoga Flames to a lot of moves)
- Blanka would travel forward during his electricity.
- Zangief could do his spinning piledriver from anywhere on the screen
- no charge time whatsoever; Guile could just repeat Jab sonic booms and have like 20 on the screen at once
- CPU opponents would randomly teleport; combined with the mid-match character changes this could get particularly confusing
- Ken's heavy hurricane kick would hit about 8 times; you could simply re-dizzy your opponent with this until he died.
- "breakdancing" version of Chun-Li's spinning bird kick, with her head on the ground
- Sonic Booms would shoot out of Chun Li's lightining kick
- Diagonal or "heat-seeking" projectiles in some versions
- completely different music for E. Honda's stage

[Apossum]

there were a few arcades near me that had those hacked SF2 games.
iirc, they had Accelerator and Rainbow Edition. They were really cool, but sooo so so so broken.

Rainbow Edition was fucked up! Ryu and Ken could fill up the whole screen with fireballs, so every match went down like that-- two guys choosing Ryu and Ken, getting tick damage till the end of the round >_<

[asianxcore]

when I was living in Southern California a while ago, those hacked SF cabinets were common and all the rage :)

yea, like Apossum said, most people would just pick Ryu or Ken and fill up the screen with hadokens.

[BustaUppa]

I always wondered if people got in trouble for those or what. I mean these hacks would show up in some pretty mainstream locations. Then again you always see those fake nintendo consoles loaded with ROMs right in the middle of the mall, and they seem to get away with it.

I also saw a hacked MKII at this one comic store. It was referred to as "version 9.1." It was pretty tame in comparison to the insane SFII hacks but still pretty interesting. That one has shown up on MAME as well. Any other fighters get hacks that were actually in arcades?

[GuilewasNK]

probably because of tardy counters that make it hard to do much of anything...

mvc2 is fun because it's broken in a strangely fun manner.

MvC2 is still one of the most fun games I ever played. The roster is incredible, the gameplay is insane...

I would loved to have seen the SNK crew vs. some Marvel characers though. MUGEN is cool but an official game would have been amazing.


BTW, I was playing KOF EX2: Howling Blood since there was a storm last night, man is Sinobu a freaking BASTARD. :lol:

[B:L]

I had the home version of a hacked SFII for the SNES. Those were stupid because of the "touch of death".

Meaning I can throw you from anywhere across the screen. :-#

[Apossum]

why would anyone change the music in mvc2?

i mean, how could anyone get tired of

"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"
"GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE"

I changed it so that plays on every stage, all the time.

[kristianator]

the only thing mvc2 is missing is a cheesy announcer like on 3s and cvs2

[RelentlessRolento]

I still say SFII Rainbow Edition on XBLA would have made for some insane match play.

[BustaUppa]

I still say SFII Rainbow Edition on XBLA would have made for some insane match play.Hahaha they should add that as a patch of some sort. After some intense "real" matches it would be fun to unwind and just fuck around with some of the hacks. Ha ha now I wish Capcom would go ahead and do that; it's not like the bootleggers would be able to sue them or anything.

[RelentlessRolento]

Hahaha they should add that as a patch of some sort. After some intense "real" matches it would be fun to unwind and just fuck around with some of the hacks. Ha ha now I wish Capcom would go ahead and do that; it's not like the bootleggers would be able to sue them or anything.

yeah... "ranbow mode" would kick ass.

anyone get the street date for UMK3 on live yet? That alongside Lumines Live are the only live titles i'm hyped about ATM.

[MarkMan]

Dudes. Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin is THE SHIT.

There are some BIG suprises with the game. Wait til you guys play it!

Now back to your fighting gaming action. :)

[Jimbo Slice]

I have a question which has been debated among my brothers and friends for a little bit now...

If you could add one more character from Street Fighter 2 to the line-up in Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike, who would it be?

My choices boil down to Balrog, Sagat and Bison. I seriously think that seeing of any of them 3 in 3s would be incredible. Parrying into Sagat's 7-hit Tiger Upper would be fucking awesome, but I think in the end I'd have to go with Bison. I'd love to see how his Psycho Crusher looked with CPS3 graphics and can only imagine the sick combos w/ parry into Scissor Kick. Bison would just be to fucking sweet for words.

[BustaUppa]

anyone get the street date for UMK3 on live yet?The latest rumor I've heard is sometime in October, to coincide with the release of MK Armageddon. This seems to make sense, since UMK3 will be on the PS2-exclusive Premium Pack of MKA.

[kainzero]

I changed it so that plays on every stage, all the time.
i changed it so it plays when you call an assist.

[Rodimus]

I have a question which has been debated among my brothers and friends for a little bit now...

If you could add one more character from Street Fighter 2 to the line-up in Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike, who would it be?

My choices boil down to Balrog, Sagat and Bison. I seriously think that seeing of any of them 3 in 3s would be incredible. Parrying into Sagat's 7-hit Tiger Upper would be fucking awesome, but I think in the end I'd have to go with Bison. I'd love to see how his Psycho Crusher looked with CPS3 graphics and can only imagine the sick combos w/ parry into Scissor Kick. Bison would just be to fucking sweet for words.

Balrog the Boxer? They kinda replaced him with Q didn't they?

The first thing that comes to mind is Zangief but since Hugo's in the mix I'd imagine they'd play very similar, so for "diversity purposes only" I'd vote for Sagat. Bison woid also be a good choice too.

[MarkMan]

Going to have a special sale for Hori Real Arcade Pro 1 joysticks on the VGO site this weekend from Sunday til the end of Monday.

$69.00 for a HRAP1!

You can't beat that ANYWHERE!

ANYWHEREEEEEEEE.

More details and link soon.

[GuilewasNK]

Balrog the Boxer? They kinda replaced him with Q didn't they?

The first thing that comes to mind is Zangief but since Hugo's in the mix I'd imagine they'd play very similar, so for "diversity purposes only" I'd vote for Sagat. Bison woid also be a good choice too.

I thought it was Dudley?

[Chacrana]

I thought it was Dudley?

Well Dudley's a boxer, but I thought he played really, really differently from Balrog...

[Chacrana]

Dudes. Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin is THE SHIT.

There are some BIG suprises with the game. Wait til you guys play it!

Now back to your fighting gaming action. :)

alright, I have to ask... how does PoR compare to DoS and SOTN (my two favorites?) I've been hearing that Portrait of Ruin is absolutely amazing, but I still haven't heard any real details.

[RelentlessRolento]

for SFIII characters... I'd either go with E.Honda or Blanka... we don't really have a good "throw my body at you for attack" character in SFIII, so those guys would be good.

[apokalipze2]

Going to have a special sale for Hori Real Arcade Pro 1 joysticks on the VGO site this weekend from Sunday til the end of Monday.

$69.00 for a HRAP1!

You can't beat that ANYWHERE!

ANYWHEREEEEEEEE.

More details and link soon.Good deal. Im ight pick one up

[MarkMan]

alright, I have to ask... how does PoR compare to DoS and SOTN (my two favorites?) I've been hearing that Portrait of Ruin is absolutely amazing, but I still haven't heard any real details.

I made a long post about the game but edited it as it could get me in some trouble.

So I'll just PM it to you instead.

[Jimbo Slice]

Going to have a special sale for Hori Real Arcade Pro 1 joysticks on the VGO site this weekend from Sunday til the end of Monday.

$69.00 for a HRAP1!

You can't beat that ANYWHERE!

ANYWHEREEEEEEEE.

More details and link soon.

How much better is the Real Arcade Pro 1 than the Tekken stick?

[Rodimus]

for SFIII characters... I'd either go with E.Honda or Blanka... we don't really have a good "throw my body at you for attack" character in SFIII, so those guys would be good.

Ahhhhh yes... the good ol' "throw my body at you attack." Usually requires some degree of charging.

And as Chacrana was saying, Dudley doesn't play anyhing like Balrog even though he is a boxer. Dudley actually feels more like what a boxer should play. Instead of being slow, he's very quick with alot of intresting combos. Q's got the insane power with charging punches now (also like C. Jack from SF EX)

[SilverPaw750]

So I'm gonna pick up the Tekken 5 stick tommorow for $30. A few questions.

1. It's a good stick, right?

2. Where can I buy that good PS2 - Xbox converter? I believe it was the Magicbox...and how much is it?

3. What should I do with my SF:AC stick now? I still haven't modded it, though it's something I've been meaning to do for months. I just had trouble justifying spending $45 and a few hours to mod a stick when I really don't play fighters THAT much.

[Rodimus]

Markman - Do they make those HRAP1 for X-Box? I don't know much about arcade sticks, but I'm intrested in getting one to help my SF 3s game online.

[MarkMan]

The HRAP1 is tons better than a Tekken 5 stick.

The main thing about it is if a button ever goes out on you it's easy to replace it. It's a pain in the ass with the T5 Hori. Also the joystick itself is a Sanwa stick and if you play on both you should immediately be able to tell the difference.

The Tekken stick for $30 is a good deal, esp since it comes with the game. Check your local EB/GS.

The HRAP 1 for 70 bucks though is a steal.

[RelentlessRolento]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG6zig70KlE

no need for anything else... after this game, I'm set for life.

[B:L]

no need for anything else... after this game, I'm set for life.But what about THESE classics? :cold:

http://www.sykografix.com/articles/article26/index.html

[Jimbo Slice]

The HRAP1 is tons better than a Tekken 5 stick.

The main thing about it is if a button ever goes out on you it's easy to replace it. It's a pain in the ass with the T5 Hori. Also the joystick itself is a Sanwa stick and if you play on both you should immediately be able to tell the difference.

The Tekken stick for $30 is a good deal, esp since it comes with the game. Check your local EB/GS.

The HRAP 1 for 70 bucks though is a steal.

Did you guys start taking orders for them?

[kristianator]

it would be sick to see an older more badass cammy in third strike.

it would also be cool to see a human-like (but still primitive) version of blanka, also older (cuz he was a kid/teen right?).

[MarkMan]

jimfoley16: not yet, the link should be up on Sunday.

Shipping is $11. $69 for the stick. Grand total of $80 smackers.

It starts at midnight, Sunday and will run until Monday 11:59 PM.

Spread the word!

[ratzombie]

Haha... I was just telling a few users here about it. The MvC2 Accurate Mix is one of my favorite releases, but I strongly recommend that you don't look at the track listing; you'll think it's crap until you try it.

It was just upped on underground-gamer the other day. It's a closed community, so you'll need an invite (don't have any, sorry), but it's very well-seeded.
Damn, he did a great job! The music he picked suits the stages perfectly. I especially like the Danny Elfman song from Pee-wee's Big Adventure that he uses for the Circus stage.

If anyone wants some invites to Underground-Gamer just ask, and I'll be happy to give you one. It's an awesome site for good oldschool games, etc.

[Chacrana]

jimfoley16: not yet, the link should be up on Sunday.

Shipping is $11. $69 for the stick. Grand total of $80 smackers.

It starts at midnight, Sunday and will run until Monday 11:59 PM.

Spread the word!

So what's the difference between the HRAP1's and the HRAP2?

[whitereflection]

Damn, he did a great job! The music he picked suits the stages perfectly. I especially like the Danny Elfman song from Pee-wee's Big Adventure that he uses for the Circus stage.

If anyone wants some invites to Underground-Gamer just ask, and I'll be happy to give you one. It's an awesome site for good oldschool games, etc.

I thought so too. He did another mix for Capcom vs. SNK 2, which he got better feedback on, and one for Super Street Fighter 2X, but I didn't really like either of these two. You can check out the preview videos at his site (www.stevemv.com) and if you like them, you can find the torrents there too.

[SilverPaw750]

Anyone? Where can I get the Magic Box Converter?

[kainzero]

So what's the difference between the HRAP1's and the HRAP2?

the difference is in button placement. the hrap2 is more like the japanese arcades and uses the closer 6 buttons... the hrap1 uses the farther 6 buttons.

i prefer the hrap1 though.

[Chacrana]

Hmm... I think I'd probably prefer the HRAP 1 as well... I kinda want to get me one of those.

[Darkside Hazuki]

I can confirm the presence of VF 5 at the Gameworks in Shaumburg.

It's the most ridiculous looking game I've ever seen. BEST...CLOTHES...EVER. None of that silly clipping from DOA. The lighting effects were equally stunning.

I'd love to tell you how it plays, but by 11:22 a.m. (they open at 11) the machine had been commandeered by two uber-dorks with a three-ring binder full of move lists who'd yanked a couple of bar stools up to the cabinet. If I'd been there alone, I'd have muscled 'em out of the way, but I try not to embarrass my wife in public.

I may go back tomorrow.

[MarkMan]

Told you it was there :)

Those guys there are most likely ppl from VFDC. They're trying to help out the community by breaking the system down for everyone here.

But yea, I'd be annoyed if I just wanted to try the game out and they were on it all day.

I'm going to be playing VF5 and Initial D 4th Stage Arcade all day for free at AMOA. :)

[Rodimus]

Markman - Did you see my question back a page?

[MarkMan]

Markman - Do they make those HRAP1 for X-Box? I don't know much about arcade sticks, but I'm intrested in getting one to help my SF 3s game online.

I'm sorry I must have missed it.

But no they don't make it for XBOX. The best thing you can do is either get a magicbox convertor or if you want a similar japanese styled arcade stick, you can go after a Hori Fighting Stick EX. But I really feel the HRAP1 is a better purchase quality wise. Esp. in the long run.

[Rodimus]

I'm sorry I must have missed it.

But no they don't make it for XBOX. The best thing you can do is either get a magicbox convertor or if you want a similar japanese styled arcade stick, you can go after a Hori Fighting Stick EX. But I really feel the HRAP1 is a better purchase quality wise. Esp. in the long run.

I'm in the process of getting a converter so I might as well go for the HRAP1 since everyone highly recommends it.

[asianxcore]

does anyone here who plays a lot of DOA4 have tips for Christie?

she's hands down my favorite character in the game. I find after playing online a lot, I'm getting way too predictable. I tend to stay low and go for juggles. Any advice? :)

[Apossum]

wish I could help asiancore, but I don't know much about Christie. The better players I've seen tend to use her faster moves and mid-hits to bait people into counters, then punish with that double jump kick move or a combo


Got the Asian version of Guilty Gear Judgment today...I have to say, Judgment mode is a shit load better than Isuka. No more turn button, yay! It's also a lot faster. Still pretty easy and not quite a legendary beat em up yet, but it's on its way. If they would just add some variety to the enemies and levels....


and Slash seems like a perfect port, though I'm not familiar with all the intricacies.
Overall, I'm pretty happy considering it was an impulse buy :)

[Odenat]

hrm a hrap 1 for 80 I might just bite on that.

[Roufuss]

If any fighter thread regulars need a $5 off Play Asia coupon, let me know, it expires on Sept 4th... I want this one to go to a CAG regular who I see often, so don't bother PM'ing me if you have something like 20 posts over the last 4 years.

[ratzombie]

I thought so too. He did another mix for Capcom vs. SNK 2, which he got better feedback on, and one for Super Street Fighter 2X, but I didn't really like either of these two. You can check out the preview videos at his site (www.stevemv.com (http://www.stevemv.com)) and if you like them, you can find the torrents there too.

I might check it out, I already play Capcom vs SNK 2 regularly on my PS2, so I'll have to see if it's worth a CDR and the hit to my ratio.

Let me ask you something, is the version of Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike on the Anniversary Collection for the PS2 better than the Dreamcast version? I'm just wondering if I should waste the money on that, I know it has Street Fighter II (Well sort of) but I don't think $30.00 or whatever it costs right now is worth it until a few price drops.

[Roufuss]

Let me ask you something, is the version of Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike on the Anniversary Collection for the PS2 better than the Dreamcast version? I'm just wondering if I should waste the money on that, I know it has Street Fighter II (Well sort of) but I don't think $30.00 or whatever it costs right now is worth it until a few price drops.

Anniversary Collection has already seen a few price drops... I think it's MSRP is only $20 these days (or maybe that's the price I keep seeing it at).

Anyways, yea, SF Third Strike is arcade perfect on the PS2, and the Dreamcast one is slightly off on the timing of parries, IIRC. I might not remember correctly, though ;)

[Odenat]

I might check it out, I already play Capcom vs SNK 2 regularly on my PS2, so I'll have to see if it's worth a CDR and the hit to my ratio.

Let me ask you something, is the version of Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike on the Anniversary Collection for the PS2 better than the Dreamcast version? I'm just wondering if I should waste the money on that, I know it has Street Fighter II (Well sort of) but I don't think $30.00 or whatever it costs right now is worth it until a few price drops.

The SFA version of third strike is considered the closet to the Arcade version. Hence the reason it's used at evo2k. I have the DC and Xbox version and plan on buying the PS2 version soon. Out of the two I own I prefer the DC just because I have two agetecs and my friends enjoying using arcade sticks vs. controllers. If you have a Gamecrazy close buy they sell SFA for PS2 19.99 new.

[Rodimus]

Everyone's recomending the "Magic Box Converter." What makes it special? Are there other brands I should steer clear of?

Roufuss - That's cool of you to offer the $5. Too bad I don't have anything on play-asia I'm dying to get.

[ratzombie]

Anniversary Collection has already seen a few price drops... I think it's MSRP is only $20 these days (or maybe that's the price I keep seeing it at).

Anyways, yea, SF Third Strike is arcade perfect on the PS2, and the Dreamcast one is slightly off on the timing of parries, IIRC. I might not remember correctly, though ;)

Alright, good to know. I'll have to pick it up, as well as the Alpha Anthology. I prefer the PS2 D-Pad over the Dreamcast one anyway.

[Roufuss]

Roufuss - That's cool of you to offer the $5. Too bad I don't have anything on play-asia I'm dying to get.

Yea, I've got two coupons, I thought they expired at the END of September... I'm using one of them, so I might as well offer the other one here.

Since I know the fighter thread is full of good people who regularly import, I want it to go to a good member of the community rather than posting it in the Play Asia thread for a lurker to get.

[Rodimus]

Anyone know about this converter made by Game-Elements:
http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1035565673310665140tg3.jpg

I'm in the process of a trade for one and he says it's reponsive, but not to plug it in the X-Box and Gamecube at the same time. I want to use it for HRAP1 I'm planning on buying, thanks to Markman. Thanks in advance guys.

[Apossum]

good idea...

I'll offer my $5 off code as well. I won't be spending $50 in straight cash on games for a while...

PM me if you want it! lurkers can hit me up, but fighter thread people have priority on it.

[Chacrana]

I've got 2 Play-Asia coupons that are good through the 22nd and 24th and yeah... whoever wants em, PM me.

[SilverPaw750]

I would love a Play-Asia code, but first I need to decide on a PS2-Xbox converter to purchase...

Any suggestions? Does Magic Box have lag?

[Roufuss]

I would love a Play-Asia code, but first I need to decide on a PS2-Xbox converter to purchase...

Any suggestions? Does Magic Box have lag?

Let me know so you can take mine, since it expires the earliest on the 4th and I don't want it to go to waste ;)

[Apossum]

Magic Box is considered the best cause it doesn't lag at all.


ah, and vehicles in GG:Judgment. kick ass. being sick as hell the weekend before school starts has some perks I guess :\

[Chacrana]

Hmmm.... is it worth buying Judgment just to get the side scroller? And didn't the Japanese version have Slash with the sidescroller?

[RelentlessRolento]

Hmmm.... is it worth buying Judgment just to get the side scroller? And didn't the Japanese version have Slash with the sidescroller?


if it does have slash, it's probably best to import. I'm sure it's english heavy other than the story mode.

[Apossum]

Hmmm.... is it worth buying Judgment just to get the side scroller? And didn't the Japanese version have Slash with the sidescroller?


I can't say it's worth the $40 just for the side-scroller, but it's def worth it for the whole package. yeah, the japanese version has slash, but you might as well get the asian version since it's $10 cheaper and there's no difference.

on the other hand, this time next year, Accent Core will probably be on its way to the PSP. If they do one more after that, they'll surpass SF2 in upgrades! pretty sure that's what ASW's goal in life is...


edit: re:english. Everything's in english accept the dialogue in Judgment (more fun to ad-lib anyway.) and, there's no story mode in Slash, just arcade.

[GuilewasNK]

Anyone know about this converter made by Game-Elements:
http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1035565673310665140tg3.jpg

I'm in the process of a trade for one and he says it's reponsive, but not to plug it in the X-Box and Gamecube at the same time. I want to use it for HRAP1 I'm planning on buying, thanks to Markman. Thanks in advance guys.

That's the one I have. I only used it with a PS2 pad but it works great IMO.

[Chacrana]

I can't say it's worth the $40 just for the side-scroller, but it's def worth it for the whole package. yeah, the japanese version has slash, but you might as well get the asian version since it's $10 cheaper and there's no difference.

on the other hand, this time next year, Accent Core will probably be on its way to the PSP. If they do one more after that, they'll surpass SF2 in upgrades! pretty sure that's what ASW's goal in life is...


edit: re:english. Everything's in english accept the dialogue in Judgment (more fun to ad-lib anyway.) and, there's no story mode in Slash, just arcade.


Hmm... well lemme ask this: How does Judgment compare to stuff like Final Fight and Streets of Rage? I don't expect something on that level, but I wanna know how the mechanics compare.

[MarkMan]

The sale is on:

http://www.vgonetwork.com/article.aspx?id=181

Hori Real Arcade Pro sticks are $69 + shipping.

DS Lite accessories(Extendable Stylus or Screen Protectors) are also a low $4 SHIPPED! Cheapest prices for all of these products ANYWEHRE!

[Odenat]

ugh PP only? ah well

[MarkMan]

If you want to pay with some other method try emailing hchang@vgonetwork.com and ask him about it.

[Rodimus]

That's the one I have. I only used it with a PS2 pad but it works great IMO.

So I guess their wouldn't be any differance between a noramal PS2 controller and the HRAP1 when using a converter? Anyone know from experiance if that's true?

[Chacrana]

Dammit... I really want one... I am so on the fence right now that it's ridiculous.

[SilverPaw750]

Noooooooo! The Magic Box is sold out at Play-Asia :(

[Apossum]

Hmm... well lemme ask this: How does Judgment compare to stuff like Final Fight and Streets of Rage? I don't expect something on that level, but I wanna know how the mechanics compare.


well, you get a GG character's move set, plus all the GG dashes(no blocking.) you can still do supers and all that once you fill up the tension gauge.
so gameplay wise, it's miles deeper than streets of rage or FF. It's much faster as well.

that aspect's better. but it doesn't have as much variety. It takes a bunch of missions before they start mixing up enemy types or give you a vehicle. the first batch of areas are pretty generic, though it definitely gets better. still, since you own Slash, you might want to wait for the inevitable fast price drop on the U.S. version to play Judgment.

if they added a wider space to walk in, more enemies(with names on their energy bars, of course), maybe some RPG elements like levelling up your character, weapons and stuff like that, the game would be legendary.

[Chacrana]

well, I actually don't have Slash... the Ebay seller never came through, but I did get my money back from that sonuvabitch. So at this point, I'm waiting for Accent Core to seriously play GG again (at least that's what I'm telling myself) so it wouldn't hurt me to get Slash for the PSP. Anyway, that kind of gameplay setup definitely does sound appealing... maybe I'll go ahead and import that Japanese version now since I'm impractical and spending money means nothing to my stupid ass.

[DomLando]

Are the US and Japanese versions of Judgement the same? Should I import or just go with the us version?

[Chacrana]

US version has GGXX Reload and the Japanese version has Slash which is the updated version. Slash has 2 new characters, altered stages, and some gameplay tweaks. It's not supposed to be anything incredibly significant though so if you want to save some cash, the US version is probably the best option. If you're ultra-hardcore into GG though, it's probably worth opting for the Japanese version instead.

[Apossum]

Jam's new backflip makes it all worthwhile. makes the dragon kick and her other specials even more annoying and abusable :lol: Waaaaaatch out!!!

[asianxcore]

Chacrana, sorry to hear your GGXX Slash deal didn't go through on Ebay. Did the guy just not want to sell it at that price at the last second?

Apossum, thanks for the advice about playing as Christie in DOA4. I try to play as other characters, but I just feel the most comfortable with her overall style. I'll have to keep practicing, as my overall grade online is dropping like a stone.

Also is the D-Pad still not responsive for 2-D fighting games on PSP? I wouldn't mind checking out the new GG for PSP but I don't know about the controls.

[DomLando]

US version has GGXX Reload and the Japanese version has Slash which is the updated version. Slash has 2 new characters, altered stages, and some gameplay tweaks. It's not supposed to be anything incredibly significant though so if you want to save some cash, the US version is probably the best option. If you're ultra-hardcore into GG though, it's probably worth opting for the Japanese version instead.
Thanks. I'l be picking up the Japanese version. THanks for the heads up.

[Chacrana]

Chacrana, sorry to hear your GGXX Slash deal didn't go through on Ebay. Did the guy just not want to sell it at that price at the last second?


The shitfuck just didn't say anything for like a month. I left a negative recently though and he was like "hey man, what're u doin?" I said that if he refunded the money or sent out the game I'd take away the negative. Apparently, he didn't have the game at all, so he sent back the money and since I'm a bastard, I left the negative anyway.

ah well, more money for Judgment and that HRAP... I know I'll pull the trigger... damn it.

[depascal22]

That HRAP deal is so tempting I might have to just turn the computer off so I don't pull the trigger.

[RelentlessRolento]

Apossum, thanks for the advice about playing as Christie in DOA4. I try to play as other characters, but I just feel the most comfortable with her overall style. I'll have to keep practicing, as my overall grade online is dropping like a stone.



Hey, I've been playing DoA4 for a while now and still have yet to find a character that has my style of play. I still feel there's not enough veriety in the game and uniqueness between characters (a good point would be the ninja characters and leon/bayman/spartan). If each one stood out more (and they are all very close to that, but not yet) then I'm sure I'd find a character I'd like.

[Apossum]

The shitfuck just didn't say anything for like a month. I left a negative recently though and he was like "hey man, what're u doin?" I said that if he refunded the money or sent out the game I'd take away the negative. Apparently, he didn't have the game at all, so he sent back the money and since I'm a bastard, I left the negative anyway.

ah well, more money for Judgment and that HRAP... I know I'll pull the trigger... damn it.


nah, he definitely deserves the negative, the rat bastard!


Hey, I've been playing DoA4 for a while now and still have yet to find a character that has my style of play. I still feel there's not enough veriety in the game and uniqueness between characters (a good point would be the ninja characters and leon/bayman/spartan). If each one stood out more (and they are all very close to that, but not yet) then I'm sure I'd find a character I'd like.


the ninjas are all very different...you mean Ayane, Kasumi, Hayate and Ryu, right? I don't think there's a duplicated move among all of them :lol: but yeah, leon bayman and the Spartan all have the same move set with a few variations. Even after Itagaki specifically said the Spartan wouldn't be a clone :roll:

[RelentlessRolento]

the ninjas are all very different...you mean Ayane, Kasumi, Hayate and Ryu, right? I don't think there's a duplicated move among all of them :lol: but yeah, leon bayman and the Spartan all have the same move set with a few variations. Even after Itagaki specifically said the Spartan wouldn't be a clone :roll:

I probably didn't come off clearly... what I was trying to say is that, yeah, they (the ninjas) all have very different movesets, but they all feel very much the same in the end (ayane may be an exception)... damage feels to similar, attack patterns seem a bit too the same, and they're all ninjas (jk... oh wait they are ninjas!... but still a jk...). If you take kasumi and hyabusa, they've both got f,f+K and go into a low attack kick, while f,f+k for ayane and hayate go into high areial 3 hit combos... and from there on moves start to borrow from each other (backflips, running attacks... etc.). I still prefer the Bayman clones over the ninjas, but partially since I prefer brute force characters a bit more. Then again, I am always in favor of military based characters in fighting games, plus the fact that I am really getting tired of ninjas nowadays...


on that note, what well known character personality types does everyone here lean more towards liking, either if you play them alot or not.


Like I said, I love the hell out of military guys: Dragunov, Ralf, Heidern, Rolento, etc.

as for girls, I still go for the top heavy types... no answers needed.

[ratzombie]

I probably didn't come off clearly... what I was trying to say is that, yeah, they (the ninjas) all have very different movesets, but they all feel very much the same in the end (ayane may be an exception)... damage feels to similar, attack patterns seem a bit too the same, and they're all ninjas (jk... oh wait they are ninjas!... but still a jk...). If you take kasumi and hyabusa, they've both got f,f+K and go into a low attack kick, while f,f+k for ayane and hayate go into high areial 3 hit combos... and from there on moves start to borrow from each other (backflips, running attacks... etc.). I still prefer the Bayman clones over the ninjas, but partially since I prefer brute force characters a bit more. Then again, I am always in favor of military based characters in fighting games, plus the fact that I am really getting tired of ninjas nowadays...


on that note, what well known character personality types does everyone here lean more towards liking, either if you play them alot or not.


Like I said, I love the hell out of military guys: Dragunov, Ralf, Heidern, Rolento, etc.

as for girls, I still go for the top heavy types... no answers needed.

That's funny, I'm the exact same way. :D

[Apossum]

I probably didn't come off clearly... what I was trying to say is that, yeah, they (the ninjas) all have very different movesets, but they all feel very much the same in the end (ayane may be an exception)... damage feels to similar, attack patterns seem a bit too the same, and they're all ninjas (jk... oh wait they are ninjas!... but still a jk...). If you take kasumi and hyabusa, they've both got f,f+K and go into a low attack kick, while f,f+k for ayane and hayate go into high areial 3 hit combos... and from there on moves start to borrow from each other (backflips, running attacks... etc.). I still prefer the Bayman clones over the ninjas, but partially since I prefer brute force characters a bit more. Then again, I am always in favor of military based characters in fighting games, plus the fact that I am really getting tired of ninjas nowadays...


on that note, what well known character personality types does everyone here lean more towards liking, either if you play them alot or not.


Like I said, I love the hell out of military guys: Dragunov, Ralf, Heidern, Rolento, etc.

as for girls, I still go for the top heavy types... no answers needed.


I see what you mean, though some of it I disagree with.

meh, Hitomi 4 lyfe! :D Ein does not exist!

[Chacrana]

You don't exist. Kasumi 4 lyfe.

[Apossum]

You don't exist. Kasumi 4 lyfe.


Face full of Carpet 4 lyfe.

sucks my connection is unreliable here (even more so than the one at home) cause I wanna play some doa online....

[Chacrana]

I gotta plug my Xbox into the wall now... haven't actually done that yet though. Ah well. Sometime.

[asianxcore]

I gotta plug my Xbox into the wall now... haven't actually done that yet though. Ah well. Sometime.

did you already get it back from repair?

[Jimbo Slice]

Hey guys created a new thread since we're at 497(498 now)

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106812