Official Mario Strikers Charged! Discussion and FCs

[snipegod]

I've added every friendcode listed in the original post + magiic (he's not on there).

Only Vman, Si, Daroga, and Johnathan (all Mii names) are officially listed as my friends; has everyone else not added me or is there something else causing that?

[botticus]

I didnt credit for either win. I've lost one series and one won series but record shows 2L & 0WYou should definitely have points for at least the first win, if he disconnected before the second was finalized. Sometimes it takes a few minutes for your stats to update.

[mpj31]

I'll be on in an hour if anyone wants to play

[snipegod]

Good series, Spaz. I was afraid you were going to push it to a 5th game.

[magiic]

Ok I just added all the friend codes...wow that sucks lol

if only Nintendo had something like XBL

[SpazX]

Good series, Spaz. I was afraid you were going to push it to a 5th game.

I still can't get past the sucking. I dunno if it's that it doesn't do what I want every button press or that it does, lol. Maybe I push too many damn buttons.

I'm still getting used to the power things, so if you hit the d-pad when you've got the ball you do a power thing that depends on the sidekick and stuff right?

And do I have to officially PM you or anything botticus? I'm not bolded yet, but I said I'd join the tournament even though I suck.

[mpj31]

make sure to add me to tourney i didnt see my name bolded but i said i would play before i posted my code

if anyone wants to play im game

[lilboo]

mmmm I have a neat idea.
I'd say for all of those w/ accounts to any GTP sites..we (excluding me for now..::cries::) earn points to get Wii Points cards..and make a tournament..and have like.. "First place: 3 Wii points cards!" "Runner up: 1 (maybe 2!) Wii points cards!"

But clearly that would take sometime & discussion for that to happen. I'd be willing to help.. but I need the darn game! LOL

[js1]

Here is my FC 455373-445771 the user name is js1. I'll add everyone in the OP and I'll try to keep adding people as long as I can. I rented this until monday, but I like it enough to buy it tomorrow.
I'm game for a tournament I just need way more practice.

[mpj31]

I'd have to say Si is the best player here.

[botticus]

OP updated, 15 tourney entries, not too shabby.

[mpj31]

I wish you could both be the same captain

[EXStrike]

I'm still getting used to the power things, so if you hit the d-pad when you've got the ball you do a power thing that depends on the sidekick and stuff right?

It's a deke - a move that gets you away from (fakes out) an opposing player. Every one has a different one, although some will do the same thing.

[CouRageouS]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe deke more used as a hockey term. Juke is the term for football/football(uk)/soccer/running around with friends :lol:

I believe I added everyone new from the last couple pages. Anyone let me know if I missed them.

[lilboo]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe deke more used as a hockey term. Juke is the term for football/football(uk)/soccer/running around with friends :lol:

I believe I added everyone new from the last couple pages. Anyone let me know if I missed them.


I LOVE that sig!!! Did you make that ?!

[Tybee]

There is a lot of depth to this game. And while that's a good thing, right now it's really frustrating me, because it's clear I have so much more to learn. I'm getting schooled online. I'm getting schooled in the Crystal Cup. Ugh.

[Legendaryhedgehog06]

I'd have to say Si is the best player here.

Well...I wouldn't go that far but...:D

In all seriousness though there have still been a few players online who have utterly creamed me. I Fucking hate the gimmick stages like the Wasteland, and spammers who just lob the ball from person to person until its white and then shoot from their most powerful player.

I played Koopa tonight. It was a good game. I won. Go me lol

Last time I checked I was 187 on the Leaderboard. It sucks though because I have so much work this weekend, I'll be lucky if I get on at all this side of Sunday night.

[mpj31]

Yea I'm koopa and I use waluigi and you stole him both times. Thats why I tried to take home team the second time but you wouldnt give. oh well. I played somone right after our second game and it was the most frustrating game I've played. He got two little dinky goals with Boo. And nothing would go my way.

[EXStrike]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe deke more used as a hockey term. Juke is the term for football/football(uk)/soccer/running around with friends :lol:


They called it a deke in the instruction book and in Strikers for the Cube, FWIW. :-k

[ArthurDigbySellers]

There is a lot of depth to this game. And while that's a good thing, right now it's really frustrating me, because it's clear I have so much more to learn. I'm getting schooled online. I'm getting schooled in the Crystal Cup. Ugh.

We need to play each other soon. It will be EPIC. ;)

I just feel like I haven't got the right mix of sidekicks yet and I'm still not sold on my captains. I will tell you this much - no more Yoshi for me. Everyone and their brother uses Luigi and I have no idea who the fuck I am half the time.

[mpj31]

I feel you need at least two good shooters on your team and two good defenders, one preferably with good speed. Hope that helps.

It was Deke in Sega soccer slam as well.

[CouRageouS]

I LOVE that sig!!! Did you make that ?!
Yep. I made a 360 one too. But I don't have one yet so it'll just appear blank. Like so. I was considering filling it up with my 360 wishlist because it looks so nice I wanna use it now.
http://my.livecard.net/courageousxviii/courageousxviii.png

They called it a deke in the instruction book and in Strikers for the Cube, FWIW. :-k
Ahh I guess you do learn something from reading the booklet then. I've only heard deke in hockey and all the sports games I've played called it jukes and just from football with friends I'm using to saying "I got jukes!". I bet deke is a more elegant term vs jukes are the extreme American way. :D

[mr ryles]

just got the game tonight, I'm gonna get some games in and see how I like it, and if I'm any good I may get in on the tourney, assuming there are spots left.

[EXStrike]

Ahh I guess you do learn something from reading the booklet then. I've only heard deke in hockey and all the sports games I've played called it jukes and just from football with friends I'm using to saying "I got jukes!". I bet deke is a more elegant term vs jukes are the extreme American way. :D

I've only heard jukes used when playing football. Can't do it myself, personally. I just like running downfield and legging it out. :D (Deep threat FTW)

[mr ryles]

Aren't the called "footies"?

[SpazX]

It's a deke - a move that gets you away from (fakes out) an opposing player. Every one has a different one, although some will do the same thing.

Yeah they call it a deke in the manual, but I didn't call it a deke since dekes aren't usually, ya know, chucking a huge hammer at somebody (although that would make many sports more interesting).

Just making sure that that's what the d-pad does: chucks a hammer with the hammer bros, digs in the ground with the groundhog, etc. since a lot of the time it seems like I'm pushing the buttons way faster than the actions on the screen and I do shit and don't know what it was :-P.

I guess I'm starting to get the hang of all this extra stuff, it does make the game a lot more interesting than the original strikers, but also a lot more frustrating.

[EXStrike]

Good game, Tybee.

[Tybee]

*sigh* This game makes me feel bad about myself. My e-penis can't get much smaller. =(

Nice game ExStrike.

[mpj31]

I just played lakkerz for like 12 minutes on one game.

[EXStrike]

Well, that was annoying. Faced a guy who always Birdo Skillshot'd or teleported Dry Bones into the goal. Cheap bastard.

[js1]

I'll be playing tonight for a couple of hours from 12am- to around 2 am EST. If anyone want to play.

[magiic]

I just played lakkerz for like 12 minutes on one game.

longest fucking OT in the history of Strikers right there lol

[CouRageouS]

Who did I play earlier? About an hour or 2 ago.. lebowsky I think? I forgot to say the obligatory good game in the thread. GG!

[retodd]

I added my code to my signature. I have not read much of this thread and I was curious how I should compile the friend codes from thsi thread?

Mario Strikers Charged Code: 386653 745677

[konicki465]

Legendaryhedgehog06 killed me outright earlier. He has to be the best player i've faced so far. i've got to practice some more.

[Rig]

My friend is bringing me a copy tonight (renting) and so I will definitely add all of you.

Won't be playing in your tourney, but I will definitely want to get games in with you all.

[io]

Wait, you guys have been able to play tonight? I fucking gave up because I kept getting connect errors - either "check your Internet" or "Data Transfer Failure" or some such nonsense. More often then not it was connecting but then failing when getting the stats (so it wasn't my local connection). I got on one time and started to enter friends codes and right in the fucking middle of that it gave me the same error and kicked me out to the main screen. I wanted to get on with my son and try some 2-player. So we gave up and tried to play the Crystal Cup instead. Damn that is hard... We can barely get shots off let alone win anything. Overall it was a very frustrating Strikers session. I'm really starting to like this game less and less the more I play (especially in comparison with the last game). We gave up and fired up the 360 to play Bomberman - what do you know, no connection issues whatsoever and a rock solid connection while we hosted several matches. Nintendo needs to make this wifi crap more robust, that's all I can say...

I also noticed one huge difference between playing local tonight and playing online. I tried the lobbing strategy against the CPU. I couldn't do it too much because my sons (both were playing) didn't cooperate, but I noticed that if I made a single lob pass it would go to the next guy and stay there. When I was doing that online I thought it was impossible because every time I clicked for one pass it would go right to that guy and he would kick it AGAIN right to the next one - so I couldn't line up any shots because the guy who was supposed to shoot would pass. Now I'm figuring it was an online connection glitch. I understand lag, but I totally don't get duplicate commands. I swear, it was 2 passes for every one I tried to make. It was very frustrating. The control in the local game was MUCH crisper, though still impossible to win ;).

[mpj31]

IVe gotten a lot of errors as well. A lot of the game is who you pick. If you have more than 1 slow person your pretty much screwed.

[seanr1221]

Yea, you weren't alone Io. I couldn't get past the retrieving statistics for a good 20 minutes.

[Rig]

Add me!

Rig

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[prisonerac]

Looks like I won't be able to make the first tournament. Because my copy is in the mail. Hopefully there will be a new tournament in ten days. Right Guys ... Right :)

[CouRageouS]

I also noticed one huge difference between playing local tonight and playing online. I tried the lobbing strategy against the CPU. I couldn't do it too much because my sons (both were playing) didn't cooperate, but I noticed that if I made a single lob pass it would go to the next guy and stay there. When I was doing that online I thought it was impossible because every time I clicked for one pass it would go right to that guy and he would kick it AGAIN right to the next one - so I couldn't line up any shots because the guy who was supposed to shoot would pass. Now I'm figuring it was an online connection glitch. I understand lag, but I totally don't get duplicate commands. I swear, it was 2 passes for every one I tried to make. It was very frustrating. The control in the local game was MUCH crisper, though still impossible to win ;).
When the ball is in the air during a lob pass, if you press A against it will automatically pass again. Pressing A too fast with passes will make you pass it more times than intended. Lobbing takes a lot of good timing to work. What I do is hold B down between passes so if I have room to breathe, it charges it a bit, then pass > juke > pass > whatever > release B for a nicely charged shot.

Don't forget the header off the ricochet of a block too. While the balls still white, you've got to fight!

[magiic]

I hate how I keep matching against people in the top 500 ranks and Im ranked about 10000. The lag is also really starting to bug me. Toad jumping my goalie is also getting lame

[ratzombie]

Can't wait for the tournament, I'll do pretty poorly though since I'm going to be busy for the next two weeks and can't get too many games in for practice. Oh well, it's all in good fun anyway.

[io]

When the ball is in the air during a lob pass, if you press A against it will automatically pass again. Pressing A too fast with passes will make you pass it more times than intended. Lobbing takes a lot of good timing to work. What I do is hold B down between passes so if I have room to breathe, it charges it a bit, then pass > juke > pass > whatever > release B for a nicely charged shot.

Don't forget the header off the ricochet of a block too. While the balls still white, you've got to fight!

OK, I guess. But I just noticed a huge difference between how it reacted in online play and then vs the CPU. I had no problems controlling the passes against the CPU, but it nearly always double-passed during online play. It could be that there is some lag and I'm pressing it twice because it doesn't happen right away - then I get 2 passes :roll:.

I did not know you could hold B while doing all the rest of this. Though I have a tough enough time trying to press the D-pad, pass, and hold Z. I don't think I can pay attention to yet another button. So much for simplistic Wii controls! :lol: This game is one of the tougher ones to master I have ever seen. I hope the PS3 and 360 people are paying attention to this - most probably think this is some kiddie game.

[CouRageouS]

I hate how I keep matching against people in the top 500 ranks and Im ranked about 10000. The lag is also really starting to bug me. Toad jumping my goalie is also getting lame
The Toad jumping takes a lot more timing than you'd think. I think I can nail it 3/5 tries now.

[magiic]

This guy did it I think 15/15

[io]

The Toad jumping takes a lot more timing than you'd think. I think I can nail it 3/5 tries now.

'splain please? Is it just using Toad's juke to skip past the goalie, or is there more to it (and I realize that would be hard - I wouldn't have thought it possible but that's all I can think of to make him "jump").

[ratzombie]

I still need CombatCraig, hohez, ep2011, konicki465, and lyric706 to add me back. Code is: 167610-457825

Thanks.

[magiic]

I give up. My last three games were played at about 5fps. It's just unplayable online right now for me. I hope Nintendo gets it together

[Rig]

Just played two games online with my friend, and it was great. I think we only saw two very small lag hiccups, that didn't affect the gameplay.

And I added everyone in the OP.

[Sir_Fragalot]

My code is 279279-787444

name is SirFragalt (can't put the last o in, damn mii channel, lol)

[CouRageouS]

'splain please? Is it just using Toad's juke to skip past the goalie, or is there more to it (and I realize that would be hard - I wouldn't have thought it possible but that's all I can think of to make him "jump").
You pretty much just jump over the goalie. If you're coming from a distance the goalie will be towards the outer edge of the box for an easier jump in. However for any other angle it can get tricky. From what I can tell from it, you have to watch the goalie's animation for movement. I had lots of success pausing in front of the goal for a sec or two then making the jump. As long as he's not moving and the angle is good, I think your safe. If the goalie moves the slighter before you hit the D-Pad, I'm pretty sure you're caught. Toad plus a mushroom and also just run right in without a jump. To counter Toad, any of the speedsters can cut them off with a steal even after they've jumped Critter. A slide tackle knocks the ball in as experience has shown me.

Toad, Daisy, Dry Bones, Boo, and I think one more character (peach?) can use their jukes to go past the goalie and walk in goals. Toad/Dry Bones are the easiest. Daisy's juke distance varies *I think* with how much the ball is glowing. I've accidentally juked myself into the wall a few times with her.

[V Man]

Hey (Si)Legendaryhedgehog06,

What happened when we tried to play yesterday? For some reason I got this error screen right as I accepted the match and got kicked off... tried to get the game back, but you were busy....

you seem to be top dog in these neck of the woods....
I've been able to beat Courageous whose #2 in a hard fought first to 5 goals series.... so I gotta test my skills... but you'll probably kill me = P

[V Man]

oh BTW... if there's any spots left for the tourney.. i'm in....

[ratzombie]

My code is 279279-787444

name is SirFragalt (can't put the last o in, damn mii channel, lol)
GG.

You got damn lucky on that one match where you got a 6 megashot off, for some reason it wasn't registering when I was trying to block them.

And that sudden death match was intense!

[Sir_Fragalot]

GG.

You got damn lucky on that one match where you got a 6 megashot off, for some reason it wasn't registering when I was trying to block them.

And that sudden death match was intense!That was a awesome game. I had more shots off but you got the better ones in in the last game. That last sudden death my game lagged right as I was blocking the last shot, but still awesome game :applause:.

[hohez]

I still need CombatCraig, hohez, ep2011, konicki465, and lyric706 to add me back. Code is: 167610-457825

Thanks.

I have everyone in the OP added but only a few are actually recognized. I'm guessing we have to be connected at the same time for it to go through all the way?

[bardiya27]

good game lo, you scared me when you got the super mario in the last seconds of the game haha

[io]

good game lo, you scared me when you got the super mario in the last seconds of the game haha

Nah, it was just that I figured I better use it or lose it. I can never seem to do anything with big Mario - it still seems people can tackle and do everything to you they normally do. I don't really get it.

Was that game incredibly laggy on your side with a horrible frame rate (like magiic said earlier on his game I'd say it was about 5 fps much of the time)? I couldn't see where I was half the time - my characters (and yours) kept skipping all over the place and my button presses weren't recognized on time (thus all the double passes again).

I played a ranked match after that and it was much better.

Before all that I had played the Crystal cup and got to the last elimination round with the first seed (lost to Wario in the last match 6-5 or something). The toad jump method is what got me there - it is awesome if you can pull it off. I can't see how it can be done with any consistency online though because you need a steady framerate and perfect timing to do it. However, in my ranked match I did pull one off in sudden death for the win, so that was rather awesome (I had failed about 4 tries before that).

[ep2011]

I still need CombatCraig, hohez, ep2011, konicki465, and lyric706 to add me back. Code is: 167610-457825

Thanks.
Sorry I should show up correctly now.

This goes for everyone :D

AKA: I added everyone

[daroga]

Man, I absolutely despise the way the single player is setup on this.

My friend and I were playing the Crystal Cup yesterday, and twice, after winning every game, got knocked up by one cheap goal in the elimination round. Why on earth don't they let you at least restart from elimination rather than having to do the whole cup over again? For a game that as such random and cheap things going on in the environments, that setup is unthinkable.

2 hours wasted. I might just download a freaking saved game that has everything unlocked. :P

[io]

Man, I absolutely despise the way the single player is setup on this.

My friend and I were playing the Crystal Cup yesterday, and twice, after winning every game, got knocked up by one cheap goal in the elimination round. Why on earth don't they let you at least restart from elimination rather than having to do the whole cup over again? For a game that as such random and cheap things going on in the environments, that setup is unthinkable.

2 hours wasted. I might just download a freaking saved game that has everything unlocked. :P

Entirely agreed. They could have let you start at the beginning of elimination at least. I made it all the way through, number 1 seed, beat the first one, and lost to the second when I messed up on allowing a megastrike. I blocked most of them, but that was all it took for dumb-ass Wario to win by 1 goal. The next match would have been against Diddy Kong. I could live with going back to my previous game (the first elimination) and replaying it, but it is very frustrating having to go through 10 more qualifiers. I've never downloaded a save for anything in my life, but I may just do it for this since my kids will want the last 2 characters and locked fields. I'll give it another shot first, though, of course. But I'm not doing that too many more times.

I was greatly encouraged that I could handle the CPU mostly though after being comnpletely destroyed the previous time I tried it. The toad jump trick, finally figuring out the passing charge-up deal (the reason I was not getting charge-ups before despite passing 10 times was that I was waiting too long between passes - didn't realize they had to be instantaneous), and being even more practiced in stopping megastrikes and skill shots made it much more manageable.

[EXStrike]

Nah, it was just that I figured I better use it or lose it. I can never seem to do anything with big Mario - it still seems people can tackle and do everything to you they normally do. I don't really get it.

The whole point is to just run around and squash everyone around you. It should give you enough time to let loose a charged shot (either for an item or just a better shot in general) or a 4-shot Megastrike.

[botticus]

OP updated, let me know if I've missed you.

[io]

The whole point is to just run around and squash everyone around you. It should give you enough time to let loose a charged shot (either for an item or just a better shot in general) or a 4-shot Megastrike.

Yeah, I do that but I almost always get tackled somehow :lol:. I'll figure it out one of these days. I think I just learned in my last ranked match that I need to go for the smaller megastrikes. I always try to get 6 and this guy was firing off these 3-4 ones before I could do anything to him. Then thanks to the lag (why the fuck is there lag on the megastrike defend - that should be running entirely on the defenders system!) you'll invariably score 1 or 2, anyway. That was his strategy, anyway, and he ended up winning by 1 goal in 2 of the 3 games.

Botticus - have you entered my FC on your system? I'm still showing you as "Connecting..." (along with several others from the OP).

[daroga]

io, keep in mind that items can be used against you as big Mario. Even a little shell (or the goalie) can take you down.

Has anyone messed with the camera settings in the options? Just wondering if the default is the best or not.

[Legendaryhedgehog06]

Hey (Si)Legendaryhedgehog06,

What happened when we tried to play yesterday? For some reason I got this error screen right as I accepted the match and got kicked off... tried to get the game back, but you were busy....

you seem to be top dog in these neck of the woods....
I've been able to beat Courageous whose #2 in a hard fought first to 5 goals series.... so I gotta test my skills... but you'll probably kill me = P
I have no idea. I figure its probably just the servers which I should hope Nintendo will have sorted in a few more days time. I've had a lot of odd notices, like disconnected due to error with data transmission etc.

I've been lucky a lot of times and theres still a lot of stuff I need to get the hang of. With some luck I'll be on at some point tonight I have work all day probably like 9ish Eastern. I'll look for you then if you're on.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

If some people are expecting XBL-like service from any online Nintendo game, you are going to be disappointed.

Nintendo's online service is relatively new and they are still working the kinks out. XBL has been in place since the first Xbox and has had a lot of time to evolve and mature. Not to mention the fact that XBL is funded by gamers so Microsoft has a lot more resources to throw at their online infrastructure. WFC is free so we are pretty much stuck with what Nintendo is willing to do.

We have to remember that WFC is getting absolutely swamped right now since this is the launch week for the game. Everyone is wanting to try out online so everyone is currently logging in and playing. Once the initial hype dies down, the service will straighten itself out. As sad as it is, this has happened with every WFC game launch (I'm speaking of the DS games in particular).

[ArthurDigbySellers]

You pretty much just jump over the goalie. If you're coming from a distance the goalie will be towards the outer edge of the box for an easier jump in. However for any other angle it can get tricky. From what I can tell from it, you have to watch the goalie's animation for movement. I had lots of success pausing in front of the goal for a sec or two then making the jump. As long as he's not moving and the angle is good, I think your safe. If the goalie moves the slighter before you hit the D-Pad, I'm pretty sure you're caught. Toad plus a mushroom and also just run right in without a jump. To counter Toad, any of the speedsters can cut them off with a steal even after they've jumped Critter. A slide tackle knocks the ball in as experience has shown me.

Toad, Daisy, Dry Bones, Boo, and I think one more character (peach?) can use their jukes to go past the goalie and walk in goals. Toad/Dry Bones are the easiest. Daisy's juke distance varies *I think* with how much the ball is glowing. I've accidentally juked myself into the wall a few times with her.

You Toad jumped me last night you bastard! ;)

I lost both matches to you last night (imagine that) but I felt I did so much better than I normally do - at least in the first match.

Then I went online and got beat twice by noobs like myself. As Tybee said, my e-penis is in the negative numbers right now.

[daroga]

It's frightening to me just how quickly people get sooo good at these games, and how much they play them. I can't even fathom how people can play enough to get more than 1000 points in a day.

[ratzombie]

I actually think the online play, and even the friend codes system is setup quite nicely. I'd obviously prefer one friend code, or a gamertag like on XBL, but for free it's not bad at all. I do think it's silly that they didn't enable voice chat considering those little brats get it in fucking Pokemon!

I have faith in the online play for the Wii now, hopefully Smash Bros. Brawl is online and we get voice!

[botticus]

It's frightening to me just how quickly people get sooo good at these games, and how much they play them. I can't even fathom how people can play enough to get more than 1000 points in a day.Playing over 100 games in a day is beyond belief. That's a minimum of 30 matches. So at least some 6 hours, plus connecting/setup times.

[retodd]

Man, I absolutely despise the way the single player is setup on this.

My friend and I were playing the Crystal Cup yesterday, and twice, after winning every game, got knocked up by one cheap goal in the elimination round. Why on earth don't they let you at least restart from elimination rather than having to do the whole cup over again? For a game that as such random and cheap things going on in the environments, that setup is unthinkable.

2 hours wasted. I might just download a freaking saved game that has everything unlocked. :P
I noticed that when you leave the cup, it asks you if you would like to save. Can you exit the game before the save point, then return to play the match you lost?


Toad, Daisy, Dry Bones, Boo, and I think one more character (peach?) can use their jukes to go past the goalie and walk in goals. Toad/Dry Bones are the easiest. Daisy's juke distance varies *I think* with how much the ball is glowing. I've accidentally juked myself into the wall a few times with her. Waluigi's deke can warp you past the goalie.

Playing over 100 games in a day is beyond belief. That's a minimum of 30 matches. So at least some 6 hours, plus connecting/setup times. I have a feeling that there are 3-4 people playing on the same account when I see some of these high scores. That and a single person juiced up on energy drinks accounts for the top players of the day.

EDIT: I am adding all of the friend codes from the beginning of the thread as we speak. That you all in advance for taking the time to add me as a friend. After all, everyone could use a friend.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/4707/muppetsfriendsmn8.th.jpg (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=muppetsfriendsmn8.jpg)

[ArthurDigbySellers]

I actually think the online play, and even the friend codes system is setup quite nicely. I'd obviously prefer one friend code, or a gamertag like on XBL, but for free it's not bad at all. I do think it's silly that they didn't enable voice chat considering those little brats get it in fucking Pokemon!

I have faith in the online play for the Wii now, hopefully Smash Bros. Brawl is online and we get voice!

One of the Charged devs stated that the Mii friend code would transfer from game to game...then he was contradicted by another Nintendo rep - as usual.

I really, really, hope that what he said was true. I wonder where the friends list is actually saved? Is it online? You have to log into WFC to see your friends list so it could possibly be saved on Nintendo's end. If that is the case, there is hope that friends lists could transfer.

[CouRageouS]

It's frightening to me just how quickly people get sooo good at these games, and how much they play them. I can't even fathom how people can play enough to get more than 1000 points in a day.
I kinda think its funny because there no reward for the points (yet) and then come Sunday, everyone's seasons points are reset correct? Win/Loss record stays, but points are gone if I understand the system correctly.

[Hockey37]

Played thru the Fire Cup last night. Had problems trying to connect to online around 11pm EST. I only tried twice though before I went to bed.

This game is fucking awesome. I'll try and get my friend code up and posted tonight sometime after I install the new grill on my truck. :)

[ArthurDigbySellers]

io, keep in mind that items can be used against you as big Mario. Even a little shell (or the goalie) can take you down.

Has anyone messed with the camera settings in the options? Just wondering if the default is the best or not.

I messed with them at lunch and went through each of the settings for both Dynamic (which is the default, set at 3) and Static. I think all Dynamic does is zoom out the view as the ball stretches past the current field of view. Static does no zooming at all but just follows the action.

The levels seem to correspond to how zoomed out the camera is by default: 1 being the furthest out and 5 being the closest in. Static on 5 was too zoomed in. You couldn't see where your sidekicks were unless they were right next to you. 4 was still a little too close, so it seemed like the sweet spot was 3.

Dynamic at 4, however, was great for me. It keeps close (but not too close) to the characters so you can actually see who is who, and zooms out as it needs to when the ball goes out of the field of view.

I'm playing on a 32" CRT HDTV and with it set to widescreen, the default view is almost too small for me. Dynamic/4 seems to be the best mix for me but I think it would competely depend on your TV size.

[hohez]

I noticed that when you leave the cup, it asks you if you would like to save. Can you exit the game before the save point, then return to play the match you lost?

No, the game knows you disconnected. This was the first thing i tried once i got to Crystal Cup Knockout round and was going to lose. It comes up with a strikers time as soon as you go back into the cup and says your fans are disappointed or something.

[daminion]

would love to get added to the list of wii friend codes :)

2478-8974-3103-1436

[botticus]

would love to get added to the list of wii friend codes :)

2478-8974-3103-1436Your Strikers friend code is unfortunately different than your Wii code. You should see it on the top of your friend roster when you log in.

We currently have 16 people signed up for the tournament, so I think that'll be enough to stick with the 8/5 deadline. We will certainly have as many tournaments as there is interest, so no worries if you're not in for the first one.

Shall we have qualifying rounds or just go straight to a bracket with random seeding? The latter will be quicker and easier, former will be more legitimate as far as tournaments go.

[Tybee]

IVe gotten a lot of errors as well. A lot of the game is who you pick. If you have more than 1 slow person your pretty much screwed.

Wait...You can have more than two people (or two pairs of at-home people) playing online? How did I not know this?

[CouRageouS]

io, keep in mind that items can be used against you as big Mario. Even a little shell (or the goalie) can take you down.
Big Mario/Luigi can also be stopped by a well timed tackle. People just seem to get afraid and try to run away most of the time though.

botticus go with the quicker easier way. Its not like we're going for a prize or anything. If we were I'd say do Round Robin style for points where everyone ends up playing everyone else at least once.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Big Mario/Luigi can also be stopped by a well timed tackle. People just seem to get afraid and try to run away most of the time though.

botticus go with the quicker easier way. Its not like we're going for a prize or anything. If we were I'd say do Round Robin style for points where everyone ends up playing everyone else at least once.

I agree. At least for the first tourney, let's go with a quick style.

Wait...You can have more than two people (or two pairs of at-home people) playing online? How did I not know this?

No, he was referring to your sidekicks that you choose for your team. 2 vs. 2 is the most you can play with online.

[botticus]

Alright, straight bracket it is. I'll get it put together Sunday night.

[ratzombie]

I agree lets go the quick way.

And I just played a guy who kept jumping over the goal keeper, that shit is fucking lame and is like snaking in Mario Kart.

Edit: Actually, worse.

[Tybee]

No, the game knows you disconnected. This was the first thing i tried once i got to Crystal Cup Knockout round and was going to lose. It comes up with a strikers time as soon as you go back into the cup and says your fans are disappointed or something.
Next time you play, Mr. Resetti pops out of the pitch, pulls your jersey over your head, and procedes to beat you about the head and neck.

[magiic]

that would be so funny

[mpj31]

So does anybody have rankings for CAG? Si seems to be first... according my list of friends I am number 2. I only have 6 of yall though so hook me up sometime I'd like to play some different people.

[botticus]

daroga was #2 for a while with 180+ points the last I saw (haven't logged in for a few days). Do scores reset on Sunday or Monday (they have a countdown for the season, don't recall how many days are left)?

[ep2011]

I'm probably last. I have 0 wins and 5 losses. Any help? :o

[botticus]

I'm probably last. I have 0 wins and 5 losses. Any help? :oMake use of the juke moves (d-pad while holding the ball), helps you hang onto the ball longer, more shot opportunities. If you can make it through the Fire Cup, chances are you're doing okay, probably just getting stuck playing against better people. I'm struggling through the Crystal Cup, but I've done well enough to get an 11-11 record. Lots of times it just depends on who you're playing and what kind of style they play with.

[mpj31]

Use faster players especially the captain thats my suggestion.

[Legendaryhedgehog06]

Have two power characters and two speed characterseither of which can be your captain. Have power like Birdo or Monty Mole up front and speed like Dry Bones or Toad in back.

[nmon3447]

i got the game and have been playing multiplayer with a few of my buddies to practice. Is it iight if i add you CaGers to my FL when i hop on so we can get some CAG action going?

[CombatCraig]

If you can make it through the Fire Cup, chances are you're doing okay, probably just getting stuck playing against better people.

Story of my life. It's really starting to make me mad everytime I play.

[mpj31]

If the OP could update from now on the DATES as well as the strikers code it would be much easier to get everyone added. I added everyone on the list 3 days ago, but now its hard to go through each post finding everyones codes.

[botticus]

If the OP could update from now on the DATES as well as the strikers code it would be much easier to get everyone added. I added everyone on the list 3 days ago, but now its hard to go through each post finding everyones codes.Yeah, I was going to do that, but figured it'd be easier for people to pick and choose who they want to add if they're alphabetical. Obviously the flip side is that it's hard to keep track of who you've added already if you're adding everyone. Might do it both ways from now on.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Yeah, I was going to do that, but figured it'd be easier for people to pick and choose who they want to add if they're alphabetical. Obviously the flip side is that it's hard to keep track of who you've added already if you're adding everyone. Might do it both ways from now on.

You are kicking ass just to update as much as you do, I really appreciate it. Maybe you could just asterisk each new days additions or something - althoug cutting and pasting a date would probably be just as easy.

[pasteater]

i'm in for the mario strikers tourney.

pasteater: 463963 198001

anyone up for a game tonight?

[Rocko]

I'll be picking this game up next week after trading Mario Party 8 to GS... it'll make this game only $7. Sadly, it seems I won't be in time for the tournament. That's just as well, though, since I'm terrible at Strikers.

[EXStrike]

w00t, I just beat the Crystal Cup without losing. :D Kicking ass and taking names up until the final, where it went sudden death. And pwned Diddy Kong in the second game to win series. :D

[mpj31]

i was just trying as well and got killed by diddy

Tyber..if I could make suggestions...thats why I played you. You need to lob pass a lot more. Also make use of dekes. Put Birdo or Hammer Bros on your team...at least one of them so you have a shooter. Boo Toad and Koopa aren't shooters at all. Hope that helps. Good game. Look forward to playing you more in the future.

Boo is decent but shouldnt be with toad. You need one powerful player...like drybones as well.

EX logon I wanna see how we compare now. If you beat CC you should be better than me.

[Tybee]

I'm sorry, but Koopa plays like a punk. Two Birdos launching eggs all day long and Waluigi walling himself up to pull off unmolested Mega Strikes.

Bad form. :bs:

[mpj31]

Its part of the game. Sorry. Walugi's wall isn't the easiest thing to do. I got lucky.

[ratzombie]

Yeah, at least it takes a little skill to pull off the specials. I'm still quite terrible at it, but other people can use them quite effectively and get off 6 orange Mega Strikes on me.

Edit: And speaking of the specials, I fucking love the chant the crowd does when Wario has his queued up.

[EXStrike]

GG, but Dry Bones-ing it in was gay.

[mpj31]

Ex me and you seem to have the best matches.

O comon. I wasnt going to shoot it with him. I dont abuse it. I think its part of the game, the ball was charged up all the way and I took advantage.

[Legendaryhedgehog06]

As deep as this game is ultimately there are a lot of things in the game that will keep happening oevr and over again. The key to being a good player is how to stop them. There is time to interrupt a character's charge shot. Honestly, complaining about it is just pointless, learn from it and don't let it keep happening.

[ratzombie]

Ugh, I'm sick of being mismatched. I'm rank 5000+ something, and the server is matching me up with people in the top 20. :bomb:

Botticus, I took the liberty of typing down the Mii names for the following CAGs for you:

bardiya27 (Bardiya)
hohez (Rob-Hohez)
mpj31 (Koopa)
retodd (ReTodd)
pastaeater (pasteater)

[EXStrike]

O comon. I wasnt going to shoot it with him. I dont abuse it. I think its part of the game, the ball was charged up all the way and I took advantage.

I'm not blaming you, but I can't believe he got wide open.

[botticus]

Ugh, I'm sick of being mismatched. I'm rank 5000+ something, and the server is matching me up with people in the top 20. :bomb:

Botticus, I took the liberty of typing down the Mii names for the following CAGs for you:

bardiya27 (Bardiya)
hohez (Rob-Hohez)
mpj31 (Koopa)
retodd (ReTodd)
pastaeater (pasteater)Gracias!

[seanr1221]

Played against a guy who was amazing at using his items to get off the mega smash shots with his captain.

He would always hit me with a shell or something right before I tackle him and then pull off 5 shots.

[alison]

new FC to add to the list:

313639 638690 (Alison)

[pasteater]

the fire cup was surprisingly easy. no losses...total cup score of 86 to 2.
on to the next one.

[lilboo]

So has anyone here played on wifi in 2 vs 2 (you and someone else on the same wii)? How is it? Is there a specific ranking for this too?

[mpj31]

the fire cup was surprisingly easy. no losses...total cup score of 86 to 2.
on to the next one.

dont get too cocky it gets hard in the crystal cup playoffs.

[Tybee]

dont get too cocky it gets hard in the crystal cup playoffs.

Yeah, I've gone undefeated in the Fire Cup a couple times now...and I suck. ;)

After taking loss, after loss......after loss online, in the Crystal Cup, and in a couple of the higher challenges, I feel it necessary to play the Fire Cup just to remind myself what it feels like to actually win a game.

Sorry for being a snot earlier, mpj. The Waluigi thing was actually pretty impressive....Just not so fun when you already feel overmatched and your opponent starts pulling off stunts like that. ;)

[mpj31]

hah i beat crystal cup by getting up and just running with dry bones in the back court. Koopa couldnt catch up to me. The game wants to be cheap I'll do the same.

[io]

hah i beat crystal cup by getting up and just running with dry bones in the back court. Koopa couldnt catch up to me. The game wants to be cheap I'll do the same.

Interesting... Another day for me, another run at the Crystal cup. I got to the championship series against Diddy Kong and lost 2-1 and 4-3 or something in SD. Suckage - all the way back to the fucking beginning. Who thought that was a good idea? Damn...

I actually used a little bit of the keepaway strategy myself when I was up by 1 goal with 30 seconds or so left in a couple of games earlier. I went up on Diddy early and should have done that, but it would have been more like 2 minutes or so and I didn't want to chance a steal and quick score on his part. Of course, what happened was a miss be me followed by a quick score, and then a shuffling of the characters so he was left with Diddy and that stupid mole. Then any slight slip-up with your 2 chars and he gets off a megastrike. I actually blocked 3 out of 4 so it wasn't too bad, but then I was playing catch-up. Next time I play keepaway if I get the chance.

While this cup looked flat-out impossible at first, I know now that I can beat it if I just keep at it. This time I restarted the Fire Cup so I could have Luigi (just 'cause) and pair him up with a couple of toads and a hammer bro. I use the toads and Luigi for quick passing to charge up shots and take several toad jump attempts for goals. I got all kinds of goals in the Fire cup since I could megastrike a lot, and used the rest of the time practicing toad jumps. In case anyone blazed through the Fire Cup the first time they played the game (as I did) and didn't snag both trophies, you should do it again. I got the Wasteland field unlocked by getting both the brick wall and golden shoe awards (fewest goals allowed and most goals scored). That should be pretty easy for most of you at this point. I just figured many didn't know that as they probably played that one day 1 and haven't gotten back to it. The first time I played I got the brick wall but not the golden shoe.

Then on to the hard part, the Crystal cup - I would usually end up with 1 or 2 toad jump goals, and maybe a hammer bros skill shot goal and/or a megastrike or regular goal. That got me wins in most of the qualifying games. My achilles heel was damn Daisy and her lightning speed. I lost 2 qualifiers to her and then had to face her in the last elimination round. I finally beat her by going up 2 goals and then playing keepaway - the key thing being I didn't let her fire off all the megastrikes she did earlier. It seems like she can get them off WAY too quickly, so I just made sure to have the character I controlled shadow her whenever possible. Diddy Kong is pretty fast, too. Had I just played keepaway when he and Luigi were knocked out and I had my toads to run around with I would have won that one game at least.

Oh well, I'll give it another shot tomorrow.

And isn't there ANOTHER cup after the Crystal? Has anyone even tried that one? Does the difficulty take the same jump as from Fire->Crystal? If so, screw that :lol:.

[ep2011]

So has anyone here played on wifi in 2 vs 2 (you and someone else on the same wii)? How is it? Is there a specific ranking for this too?

I did it yesterday. I found it confusing because of the 4 people playing. You never know who your passing it to (you or your guest) so when you try to do a combo you never do it correct. Also, for some reason it seemed to lag more than usual - even though I had a 4 star connection.

[wjhard63]

Got online for the first time two nights ago - it was fun and a lag free experience at four stars and I was able to get around a couple of hammer bros. spams to win it 2-1.

I've added every one on the OP - please add me! So far, the only ones I can tell that added me back are:

Exstrike (Exstrike)
Courageous (Johnathon)
Bardiya27 (Bardiya)
Snipegod (DannyBoy)

Thanks!

[CombatCraig]

After taking loss, after loss......after loss online, in the Crystal Cup, and in a couple of the higher challenges, I feel it necessary to play the Fire Cup just to remind myself what it feels like to actually win a game.

Man do I feel you on that one! I'm afraid to even go online anymore lol I always get paired with the mega top players and allllwayyyyssss looooseeeee. There should be separate rooms for beginners, experts, etc or just freaking casual for people who just want to play

[ep2011]

Man do I feel you on that one! I'm afraid to even go online anymore lol I always get paired with the mega top players and allllwayyyyssss looooseeeee. There should be separate rooms for beginners, experts, etc or just freaking casual for people who just want to play

Same here! I finally got paired with someone who I had a chance with. Beat them once but lost the series :( Oh well, now I have 1 win and 9 losses :P

[buttle]

Ugh, I'm sick of being mismatched. I'm rank 5000+ something, and the server is matching me up with people in the top 20. :bomb:



i wish that all these games would have the tetris ds online system. you were given a rating. and you'd be matched up with folks with similar ratings. and your rating wasn't just a measure of your win loss ratio. it took into account how good or bad your opponents were.
and also it was only based on your last 30 or 40 games so you were never afraid of ruining your score because you could fix it in no time.

[mpj31]

io there is the strikers cup. I havent even attempted that one yet.

May I mention too that when I played Diddy Kong I got two or three megastrikes with walugi....around 4 balls each and right on the red. They never went in.

[Rocko]

Well, I'll be getting this game today. Probably won't sign up for the tourney, but I'll probably play some of you online sometime, if only to improve your ratios. :D

[ep2011]

I just realized I had band camp this week from 12-8 EST. If its before or after than I can do the tourney, if not... :'(

[trip1eX]

Well throw me into the tourney if you need to fill a spot.

Oh and add me to your friends lists CAGs. 219150 050431

[daroga]

My friend and I finally beat the crystal cup together by being cheap as all get out and one person having the captain and the other just bashing everyone to keep them safe to do mega strikes. I'm not looking forward to trying Striker cup, cause even being very cheap like that, it still took us 3 runs at the cup to win.

[magiic]

Still no break in online. Im stuck playing single player for now as online is still laggy as fuck.

[mpj31]

online has been great for me, hence my 40 games played

[shadowhawk22]

This looks like the best tournament for Strikers so far. Count me in for sure.

Suman (Suman) 360884-354928

(Wii code jst in case someone wants to send me some mail :-)
6592-1895-2298-8006)

Thanks!

,Suman

[js1]

So has anyone here played on wifi in 2 vs 2 (you and someone else on the same wii)? How is it? Is there a specific ranking for this too?

That's the only way I've played online so far. It's been fun , it's more up tempo and I think more fun because of the teamwork you have to do to win. I will playing solo for awhile,until my son get better or my nephew come over again.

[js1]

Does anyone have a certain level they love or hate?

[io]

My friend and I finally beat the crystal cup together by being cheap as all get out and one person having the captain and the other just bashing everyone to keep them safe to do mega strikes. I'm not looking forward to trying Striker cup, cause even being very cheap like that, it still took us 3 runs at the cup to win.

That's an interesting strategy, and one I can do with my son. Maybe we'll try that this evening. He can be the bruiser and take everyone out. He ought to like that ;).

[Rocko]

Picked this up today. Can't wait to play!

[snipegod]

So, uh, what's everyones favorite captain/sidekick combination for online ranked play? I don't think I've seen it discussed much here.

..............................+ Hammer Bro./Birdo
I like Waluigi/Luigi...................................+ Drybones
..............................+ Drybones/Toad

[Rocko]

I just got through the tutorial, and man, I already know I suck at this game. I had a hard enoguh time beating to final tutorial match.

It just seems that all of my shots are blocked, and I can never seem to pull of any kind of special move without getting tackled.

[ep2011]

I just got through the tutorial, and man, I already know I suck at this game. I had a hard enoguh time beating to final tutorial match.

It just seems that all of my shots are blocked, and I can never seem to pull of any kind of special move without getting tackled.

You should try passing in the air (Z+A) a few times, like 4 time in a row, then while its in the air, let go of Z and hold b, you should shoot right away, and if your lucky, the gollie will be confused and you will score!

if you wanna add me I'll play with ya. I suck too and friend vs friend isn't ranked.

[Rocko]

You should try passing in the air (Z+A) a few times, like 4 time in a row, then while its in the air, let go of Z and hold b, you should shoot right away, and if your lucky, the gollie will be confused and you will score!

if you wanna add me I'll play with ya. I suck too and friend vs friend isn't ranked.

I'll add you later tonight. I think I'll practice a bit in single-player before I go online.

[ep2011]

I'll add you later tonight. I think I'll practice a bit in single-player before I go online.

Okay lets play tommarow then. Im going to bed soonish

[daroga]

That's an interesting strategy, and one I can do with my son. Maybe we'll try that this evening. He can be the bruiser and take everyone out. He ought to like that ;).hehe, I'm sure he will. It's not as easy as it sounds as sometimes guys come out of nowhere, but I think only once in some 30-odd games did the computer shutout a megastrike, so it's at least a mostly sure 1 goal, if not 2-5. I don't think we ever got 6.

It's also a pretty easy way to assure you get at least the golden foot if not the brick wall. One round we scored like 83 goals and let 9 in (10 wins in a row, then got eliminated by one cheap goal in the first elimination round--gosh I hate the way this is setup with no retrys available. It's such a time waster!)

[hinkbert]

Hinkbert (Hink) 403834046372

no tournament though unfortunately

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Man, I discovered a game breaking glitch/tactic tonight which will guarantee a win every time - and it is simple. I don't even want to say what it is because I know people will use it.

I'm sure others have found it as well but I haven't seen anyone doing it yet (besides me to test the theory). If it becomes widespread the game will be completely broken online.

[Rocko]

It'll only be a matter of time, lebowsky.

My FC is as follows:

184790 722221

If anyone is up for playing a newbie, I'm game. Only did 2 Fire Cup matches. :lol:

[ArthurDigbySellers]

It'll only be a matter of time, lebowsky.

My FC is as follows:

184790 722221

If anyone is up for playing a newbie, I'm game. Only did 2 Fire Cup matches. :lol:

I checked around and apparently it is already known. I give it about a week before everyone is doing it. I wonder if Nintendo can fix glitches like this? The game isn't hosted on a server so I doubt it unless they sent out a patch.

EDIT: Apparently it has existed since the EU launch so it is very doubtful it will be fixed.

[Rocko]

Googling around brought up one technique that I actually used in my two single player matches. :x

Although it doesn't seem like a glitch, so I'm not sure if we're on the same page.

[MisterHand]

Got my copy in the mail today. I'm up for the tourney.

Mii name: "Groucho"
Code: 201970 543599

[mpj31]

Is there really a bad glitch. Theres a lot ways to create 'glitches' persay but I still think its part of the game. Why can't the other player do the same glitch...its all part of the game.

[Tybee]

I've seen a lot of cheap moves and seemingly insurrmountable tactics....all used against me. But they all require some level of skill and timing and I wouldn't call any of them "glitches." So I'm curious about the tactic of which you speak. Whatever it is, it would certainly be tempting to use in the Crystal and Striker Cups, given the already ridiculous difficulty level.

[zerowing]

eh so I guess I can't add anyone from outside NA? I tried adding a friend from UK, no dice, we couldn't play. I'll decide later if I want to be in this tournament as I just got the game about 4 hours ago.

[magiic]

ugh if there is something to ruin online I am going to be choked

[Plinko]

Man, I discovered a game breaking glitch/tactic tonight which will guarantee a win every time - and it is simple. I don't even want to say what it is because I know people will use it.

I'm sure others have found it as well but I haven't seen anyone doing it yet (besides me to test the theory). If it becomes widespread the game will be completely broken online.

This kind of crap ruined Mario Kart DS online, and if it ruins this, I'll have no faith in Nintendo's online service. I haven't even received my copy in the mail yet and people are already taking advantage of glitches?

[mpj31]

there is no glitch known yet. there are some things that can be quite annoyin... (when people constantly pass it in the air) but so far as to my knowledge (I've played over 60 games) there hasn't been anything abused.

[buttle]

the main overused move has been the hammerhead deke and shoot. this can be fought with a well timed slide tackle. or you can just stand nearby and wait for him to power up his shot, then knock him down. if you're oppoent is lob passing you to death, you simply need to knock them down before they get the ball, or better yet, get in the way and steal the ball.

for the first time last night, i saw someone try to use the ghosts to get by the goaly all game. i couldn't figure out one sure way to stop it. i still nearly won the series, but i wasn't confident with my methods. i've also recently seen a lot of people try to jump over the goaly. this is awsome when it works, but i've only seen it work once. and i've yet to try it.

so far, for me, every attack has a counter. you've just got to find it.

[jer7583]

the problem is this crap happens in every online game. I don't get what's so fun about boiling a game down to only 2-3 tactics ever working.. There's always those morons who HAVE to win and will use whatever they read about on gamefaqs to make themselves feel good.

These people usually have no skill otherwise, though and if you can break their routine, they fall apart fast.

[Rocko]

the main overused move has been the hammerhead deke and shoot.

If by hammerhead you mean hammer bros., then that's what I was using in single player and then found people talking about online last night.

To be honest, boo and birdo's techniques seem to be pretty foolproof at the net as well. Drybones is also good, but only if you're open for a good period of time, to get the ball after you shock the opponent.

[MisterHand]

Thumbs down to the online ranked matches. I thought they were supposed to put you up against people of similar rank, but that never happens. I always get somebody ranked way above me who proceeds to hand me my ass. Not fun at all.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

I guess what I was referring to is not a glitch (although it should have never been allowed in the game) but a tactic that is super cheap. It has nothing to do with any dekes or jumping goalies etc., and since those maneveurs take at least some skill to pull off and are counter-able, I don't think they are that cheap.

What I am talking about involves no skill whatsoever besides scoring the first goal in a match.

I'm sorry I'm being so vague, I'm not doing it to act like a douche or to make myself feel important because I have some secret info, I just don't think it is a tactic I would like to spread around.

If you search the MSC forums on GameFAQs, you'll find it in there.

[buttle]

If by hammerhead you mean hammer bros., then that's what I was using in single player and then found people talking about online last night.

To be honest, boo and birdo's techniques seem to be pretty foolproof at the net as well. Drybones is also good, but only if you're open for a good period of time, to get the ball after you shock the opponent.

i forgot about birdo. her deke and shot is excellent since you can do it from anywhere in the offensive half.

at this point, i really don't have a sidekick i don't like. they all have pretty fun abilities. i always just use the random sidekicks they give me and i try to master all of them.

[ratzombie]

The only thing I've seen cheap so far, is when people "teleport" via a deke method to show up behind the goalie and score. I hope that's not going to be allowed in our tournament.

[buttle]

if there's still space in the tourament;
my friend code# - 244919 844414
mii name - jeffrie

death to friend codes.

[snipegod]

The only thing I've seen cheap so far, is when people "teleport" via a deke method to show up behind the goalie and score. I hope that's not going to be allowed in our tournament.

You can get a defender behind the goalie, tackle/steal before the deke, tackle/steal while the opponent is passing the ball in order to get a white charged ball (since these dekes don't/hardly ever get past the goalie without a good charge), etc.

From what I've seen, the game is very balanced. There's always a counter-strategy. If you don't have a high speed, high defense defender in the "protect your goalie" slot of your three sidekicks, an opponent with a high speed or high offense deke can do certain categorical things well when strategically unaccounted for.

I'm interested to know what lebowsky is talking about regarding the "tactic that is super cheap."

[ratzombie]

I like how EGM knocked Mario Strikers for having "bad music." :roll:

[snipegod]

Yukine, Waluigi's Wall at my goal not stopping you because of the small divide was classic. Good games.

[ratzombie]

Yukine, Waluigi's Wall at my goal not stopping you because of the small divide was classic. Good games.

Yeah, good games.

[botticus]

OP updated with all the weekend adds - we have 21 people in the tournament as of this post. I will put the bracket together in a few hours, so let's put in a 6pm EST deadline for joining.

If anyone has a favorite bracket-maker, let me know. Otherwise there are some freeware ones that will put something together in HTML, so it shouldn't be too painful.

[Rocko]

I'm up for a game if anyone wants to try it out with a newbie.

[snipegod]

Well, hell. I thought I read a day back or so that the registration for the tournament was closed.

If it's still open, I'll join the tournament.

Edit: I also just added everyone from the OP to my friend list. Some of you that I've added are still showing up as "Connecting...," so I think I either entered them wrong or those are the people that didn't enter my friendcode. Anyone know definitively?

[botticus]

Well, hell. I thought I read a day back or so that the registration for the tournament was closed.

If it's still open, I'll join the tournament.

Edit: I also just added everyone from the OP to my friend list. Some of you that I've added are still showing up as "Connecting...," so I think I either entered them wrong or those are the people that didn't enter my friendcode. Anyone know definitively?It means they haven't added you or it hasn't yet synced up that you have both added each other. It will tell you if you enter an incorrect code as soon as you enter it.

Not sure if I'm going to do a physical bracket since it won't be updated dynamically or anything, as long as a written-out lineup isn't too confusing. 22 people means there are 10 byes, but oh well. First round will be very quick. :lol:

[trip1eX]

Oh my Mii name is Dad. :)

Now to add 20+ 12 digit codes. I guess that breaks up my daily watching grass grow monotony.

[Rocko]

Oh, right, my Mii name is Derek (not Dad ;))

I'll add everyone in the OP later tonight.

Very disappointed with online. It was laggy, and I, playing my first online match, got matched up with some guy who had 50 wins. That's just great. Guess this further solidifies my belief that Nintendo cannot do online.

Disappointing.

[botticus]

Oh, right, my Mii name is Derek (not Dad ;))

I'll add everyone in the OP later tonight.

Very disappointed with online. It was laggy, and I, playing my first online match, got matched up with some guy who had 50 wins. That's just great. Guess this further solidifies my belief that Nintendo cannot do online.

Disappointing.Did you connect to a 4-star match? No lag then, that anyone here has experienced.

Yeah, the matchmaking can suck, but that's a factor of the game mode - they can't match you up with people of similar records and then have that count towards a universal leaderboard, it has to be random. It's missing Mario Kart's "rivals" mode.

[io]

Did you connect to a 4-star match? No lag then, that anyone here has experienced.


I've had some very laggy games on 4 star connections.

[botticus]

I've had some very laggy games on 4 star connections.Well.... nobody asked you ;)

[io]

Well.... nobody asked you ;)

:razz:

[ratzombie]

Oops, sorry for getting your Mii names mixed up. :D

[Strell]

Awww. I'm too late to sign up. I'm actually on my way out now to go pick it up.

Oh well.

I'll just play you donks some other time.

[mpj31]

Lebowsky if somone did that cheap shit to me I would just turn the wii off. I dont think it will be a problem. It takes too long.

[buttle]

Lebowsky if somone did that cheap shit to me I would just turn the wii off. I dont think it will be a problem. It takes too long.

i am dying to know the big secret. i've checked around but haven't found it. commmmmmme onnnnnnn. you know you want to say it.

[io]

Awww. I'm too late to sign up. I'm actually on my way out now to go pick it up.

Oh well.

I'll just play you donks some other time.

I suck so badly I didn't want to embarass myself in the tourney. I'll play YOU though, Strell ;). And I'll use lebowsky's secret and annoy the hell out of you ;). Actually, no, I won't do that, but I will try toad jumping you.

[snipegod]

Anyone who hasn't added me, please do.

snipegod (DannyBoy) - 360883 944618

I'm always up for a friendly game.

[botticus]

Can anyone tell me if The Vice or The Classroom have any goofy special effects, that should make them excluded from the tournament?

I'll try to get this put together as simple as possible. I've grouped everyone with a first round bye together so they can immediately play their second round match. All of this will be put in the OP. The bracket was put together seeded in alphabetical/pseudo-random order.

First Round

EAST
bardiya27 (bardiya) - BYE

daroga (daroga) - BYE

konicki465 (konicki465) - BYE

js1 (js1) - BYE


WEST
Misterhand (Groucho) vs. V Man (V Man)
shadowhawk22 (Suman) vs. snipegod (DannyBoy)

ep2011 (Eric) - BYE

CouRageous (Johnathan) - BYE


NORTH
Legendaryhedgehog06 (Si) vs. yukine (yukine)
mpj31 (Koopa) vs. Tybee (Tybee)

pastaeater (pastaeater) vs. trip1ex (Dad)
seanr1221 (Sean) vs. SpazX (Spaz)


SOUTH
lebowsky (lebowsky) - BYE

EXStrike (EXStrike) - BYE

buttle (jeffrie) - BYE

botticus (botticus) - BYE



Second Round
EAST
bardiya27 (bardiya) vs. daroga (daroga)
konicki465 (konicki465) vs. js1 (js1)

WEST
CouRageous (Johnathan) vs. ep2011 (Eric)
?

NORTH
?
?

SOUTH
lebowsky (lebowsky) vs. EXStrike (EXStrike)
buttle (jeffrie) vs. botticus (botticus)

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Oh, right, my Mii name is Derek (not Dad ;))

I'll add everyone in the OP later tonight.

Very disappointed with online. It was laggy, and I, playing my first online match, got matched up with some guy who had 50 wins. That's just great. Guess this further solidifies my belief that Nintendo cannot do online.

Disappointing.

You can blame Nintendo for the whacked out matchups, but the lag is between you and the other player. All WFC does is match two Wiis together. After that, it is just peer-to-peer networking so if either you or your opponent start getting a crap connection, the game is going to suffer.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Lebowsky if somone did that cheap shit to me I would just turn the wii off. I dont think it will be a problem. It takes too long.

I would be super-pissed if someone did it to me as well, but I did it to another guy for a minute, 30 seconds so it can be done the whole match. BTW, I felt like a complete ass after doing it and the entire time it was happening I thought for sure the other guy was going to disconnect.

To his credit, he didn't - and then proceeded to destroy me on the last game.

[ep2011]

I don't know if it improved, or just luck, but I was just pared with someone almost identical to me, and I won! Yay! and Botticus, I don't get it, who am I playing against, and what time?

Thanks.

[botticus]

I don't know if it improved, or just luck, but I was just pared with someone almost identical to me, and I won! Yay! and Botticus, I don't get it, who am I playing against, and what time?

Thanks.You had a bye the first round, so you technically "won" (noted by the bolding). Your second round match is against CouRageous. You can play whenever you want.

I put in a hard stop of 8/11 for the first round, so if one of the two people in a match was completely unavailable to play by that time, they'll get a loss, and we will move on. I'll put in a hard stop for the second round once the first round is completed.

[wjhard63]

Good game, SnipeGod - that was intense - each and every match. As you could probably tell, I'm still trying to figure out Waluigi's Wall-Luigi to get the mega-shot off.

Anyway - thanks for the invite and the match.

[snipegod]

Good game, SnipeGod - that was intense - each and every match. As you could probably tell, I'm still trying to figure out Waluigi's Wall-Luigi to get the mega-shot off.

Anyway - thanks for the invite and the match.

A true nail biter. Good games.

You had good execution on the wall (and I certainly give enough penalties), but Drybones is so fast. Heh.

[Legendaryhedgehog06]

Awesome tournament news. yukine, you wanna try and set up a date and time for our matchup? Let me know whats good for you.

[Tybee]

Awww. I'm too late to sign up. I'm actually on my way out now to go pick it up.

Oh well.

I'll just play you donks some other time.

Order of weak sauce, table 7.

[daroga]

Man, I won the first round, FANTASTIC! ;)

[CouRageouS]

Why do I get a Bye Week? Drug testing?

[Blaine]

4167 1904 0797

[Rocko]

If you had an even number of competitors, why couldn't everyone have a first round match?

[botticus]

If you had an even number of competitors, why couldn't everyone have a first round match?Because unless it's a factor of 2, then you wouldn't have an even number of competitors the next round.

I.e. we have 22, so if we just matched everyone up, the next round there would be 11 people. And if you set up a bye that round, then the 11 would turn into 6. And then the 6 would turn into 3... and then you have to somehow go from 3 to 1. To have no byes, you have to have 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, etc.

Why do I get a Bye Week? Drug testing?Yeah, your Luigi failed... hopefully by round 2, it'll be out of his system.

Basically the top 10 people alphabetically got byes since they were the top 10 seeds.

[js1]

daroga I want a rematch. Good game though! But thatbt far the worst game as far as lag goes! l I also had to walk away at the start of the second match because my wife was mad at me. I came back and had to try and stop your charged kick. I normally play at night after the kids are in bed any where from 10PM-2AM EST.

[ratzombie]

You hate me, that's it, right botticus?

You match me up with the best player of the CAG Strikers? :lol: Legendaryhedgehog is going to crush me.

Edit: Oh, and the vice/classroom are vanilla, there are no wonky field effects going on.

[botticus]

You hate me, that's it, right botticus?

You match me up with the best player of the CAG Strikers? :lol: Legendaryhedgehog is going to crush me.

Edit: Oh, and the vice/classroom are vanilla, there are no wonky field effects going on.After all your help, I decided to shaft you. Ha!

[CouRageouS]

Yeah, your Luigi failed... hopefully by round 2, it'll be out of his system.
When your life is full of romance and your theme music gets you tons of ass, theres bound to be a few performance enchancing drugs in there.

[snipegod]

How are people charging up the ball before a pass? Is it just holding the a button, like a charged shot is holding the b button?

[daroga]

daroga I want a rematch. Good game though! But thatbt far the worst game as far as lag goes! l I also had to walk away at the start of the second match because my wife was mad at me. I came back and had to try and stop your charged kick. I normally play at night after the kids are in bed any where from 10PM-2AM EST.Yeah, it was a good game :) When you weren't moving I almost stopped myself, but then I saw you comeback. Sorry about thatl Twas not fair!

[daroga]

How are people charging up the ball before a pass? Is it just holding the a button, like a charged shot is holding the b button?hold the b button like you're gonna shoot and then hit A to pass it.

[Rocko]

How are people charging up the ball before a pass? Is it just holding the a button, like a charged shot is holding the b button?
Yeah, the first online guy I played was doing that a lot, got into the white, and then scored on me. It was odd how his goalie seemed five times better than mine.

[snipegod]

Good games, Legendaryhedgehog06.

You're definitely tough.

[jbuck138]

Friend code: 163315 979393 (J Buck) I'll be adding all of yours. I just got this a few hours ago and am really enjoying it. Seems to be much better than the gamecube version.

[V Man]

Can anyone tell me if The Vice or The Classroom have any goofy special effects, that should make them excluded from the tournament?


Isn't Galactic Stadium sorta effect driven? I mean, the whole dam field tilts in a direction so it's harder to get the ball....



WEST
Misterhand (Groucho) vs. V Man (V Man)
shadowhawk22 (Suman) vs. snipegod (DannyBoy)

ep2011 (Eric) - BYE

CouRageous (Johnathan) - BYE





Hey Misterhand (groucho), lemme know when you're ready... I'm good to go for our Tourney match....

Ugh... I would be in the same bracket as Courageous(Johnathan)..... Dam your romantic Captain and your Toads!
Nothing's sexier than Waluigi's crotch point and ho-down music....

[mpj31]

I thought this wasn't going to be single elimnation..or wait it isnt? Theres never anyone on when I want to play.

[wjhard63]

Stayed up way too late tonight beating Crystal Cup. Took me 8 attempts, but the final time through, I swept the cup and only had difficulty with the quarterfinals (Mario was being cheap on Thunder Island, knocking off 2-3 players off the stage at a time).

In the finals, for some reason, Diddy never got his Red Card until the second match, with 8 seconds to go and didn't mega-strike me - I was incredibly lucky.

I'm praying I have the patience to go through and beat Striker. From some of the faqs I've read, I imagine it could take a me month or longer.

For the next tourney, I'm definitely in - the Crystal Cup attempts (along with those challenges) made me a better player online for sure.

[Sir_Fragalot]

Sigh I was playing the fucking 2nd cup today made it to the finals lossless then they got to the bullshit. Randomly eliminating mario till someone scores while diddy is there super fast throwing shots right and left. Then on the final game he got 2 bombs back to back then shells then his powerup while I got crap until mario was removed from the field when I got a star. Seriously this is worse than mariokart because atleast the guy behind gets a blue shell, I get a crap the whole match and he gets everything and scores like crazy.

[mr ryles]

My favorite part of this game has got to be waluigi going "Suck it" after his mega shot. Cracks me up every time.

[CouRageouS]

Yea i :shock:'d when I saw his Wa! Lu! I! Gi! crotch chop.

[mpj31]

I prefer when he throws the ball at your face after I score.

[js1]

konicki465 (konicki465) vs. js1 (js1) I'm free to play some time to day probably at night.

[Legendaryhedgehog06]

Good games, Legendaryhedgehog06.

You're definitely tough.
Thanks d00d. You aren't half bad yourself. We had some close matches and hey you even beat me.

[daroga]

For the tournament matches, are any captians or side kicks excluded? I believe that for as cheap as some of them can be there's always a counter for them, so it's not impossible, but just wondered if we had any rules setup for that.

[ep2011]

Why are the wifi matches suddenly reset? All my friends have 0 wins and 0 losses and I have 0 win and 1 loss. Oh and listen to this. I was creaming this guy, but I lost the first match, then It was 4 0, and he disconnected! I DIDNT GET ANY POINTS FOR IT!

[daroga]

Why are the wifi matches suddenly reset? All my friends have 0 wins and 0 losses and I have 0 win and 1 loss. Oh and listen to this. I was creaming this guy, but I lost the first match, then It was 4 0, and he disconnected! I DIDNT GET ANY POINTS FOR IT!The "seasons" reset every week. Your master record still shows when you log in. To check the season time remaining, look up top of the main WiFi screen when you log in.

[botticus]

For the tournament matches, are any captians or side kicks excluded? I believe that for as cheap as some of them can be there's always a counter for them, so it's not impossible, but just wondered if we had any rules setup for that.If anyone has any strong objections to a captain/sidekick, we can look into it, but I don't think any of them are game-breaking (though I hate Waluigi's juke with a passion).

[ep2011]

The "seasons" reset every week. Your master record still shows when you log in. To check the season time remaining, look up top of the main WiFi screen when you log in.

Oh..

That still sucks that now my season ranking SUCKS and it would of been awesome if that person didn't disconnect!

[ep2011]

If anyone has any strong objections to a captain/sidekick, we can look into it, but I don't think any of them are game-breaking (though I hate Waluigi's juke with a passion).

I think those hammer dudes in excess. Some people over use its power.

[hansford]

yeah, but the hammers can be countered.

I don't think any of the charachters should be banned.
(and no, im not in the tournament, but i plan to be in the next one)

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Oh..

That still sucks that now my season ranking SUCKS and it would of been awesome if that person didn't disconnect!

If that guy connected mid-game, you should have been credited for a win (at least I think you should have). Sometimes it takes a while for your stats to update.

I was playing last week and pulled off a Mega Shot on a some guy in the first match. I scored around 3 goals and he immediately disconnected. I received 10 + 3 points after the disconnect.

[botticus]

Strikers was defeated only by Pokemon in WFC connections last week:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177733

1. [NDS] Pokémon Diamond & Pearl - 2,812,840 connections*
2. [WII] Mario Strikers Charged Football - 520,626 connections

Two weeks ago:

1. [NDS] Pokémon Diamond & Pearl - 2,349,165 connections*
7. [WII] Mario Strikers Charged Football - 135,008 connections

[CouRageouS]

For the tournament matches, are any captians or side kicks excluded? I believe that for as cheap as some of them can be there's always a counter for them, so it's not impossible, but just wondered if we had any rules setup for that.
Everything has a counter really. I think all skill shots can be considered cheap vs actual fielding skills of plain ol' pass/shoot/good luck! It's possible to play Classic mode, no one has any skill shots except for the Captain I believe.

[retodd]

Everything has a counter really. I think all skill shots can be considered cheap vs actual fielding skills of plain ol' pass/shoot/good luck! It's possible to play Classic mode, no one has any skill shots except for the Captain I believe.

If you're going to get rid of power shots due to their cheapness, I would think you would want to remove the dekes as well. I think the deke shots are cheaper because they don't require time to charge, which at least gives the player on defense a chance.

[botticus]

The goal isn't really to eliminate what makes Strikers Charged Strikers Charged for the tournament, it's just to get rid of the randomness that could skew the results. Skill shots, dekes, all that are part of a 4-on-4 game. It's things like Crystal Canyon taking out two random people from each team that would throw off an otherwise level playing field.

[Tybee]

Everything has a counter really. I think all skill shots can be considered cheap vs actual fielding skills of plain ol' pass/shoot/good luck! It's possible to play Classic mode, no one has any skill shots except for the Captain I believe.

We're getting into competitive Super Smash Brothers territory here....


...a scary place to be. ;)

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Everything has a counter really. I think all skill shots can be considered cheap vs actual fielding skills of plain ol' pass/shoot/good luck! It's possible to play Classic mode, no one has any skill shots except for the Captain I believe.

You can play Classic Mode online?

[buttle]

buttle (jeffrie) vs. botticus (botticus)

botticus, i know we're in the second round. but i've got most of the afternoon off if you're available.

[mofo1115]

i can't wait till i get back to school to be with my wii

definitely have another tourney!

[ratzombie]

Maybe we can start doing variations on the basic game for other tournaments, like Classic Mode tournament, or an uninterrupted mega strike tournament. :lol:

[daroga]

Yeah, I really don't think any characters should be banned either. Just because I suck at guarding someone doesn't mean we shouldn't play.

Really, everything "cheap" in the game still requires skill. You've gotta time those Hammer Bros. dekes perfectly to not get clobbered (which I can't do at all, I usually don't even have a hammer bro. on my team). It's similar to snaking in Mario Kart that it's not like someone just holds down a turbo buttona nd goes fast, you have to keep it going.

The difference is, once a snaker really gets out in front, there's little-to-nothing you can do. You can always take the ball away from the deke spammers.

I merely asked the question to make sure I didn't miss anything. We're free to use whatever captain we want for each step of the tournie, right?

[botticus]

Yeah, I really don't think any characters should be banned either. Just because I suck at guarding someone doesn't mean we shouldn't play.

Really, everything "cheap" in the game still requires skill. You've gotta time those Hammer Bros. dekes perfectly to not get clobbered (which I can't do at all, I usually don't even have a hammer bro. on my team). It's similar to snaking in Mario Kart that it's not like someone just holds down a turbo buttona nd goes fast, you have to keep it going.

The difference is, once a snaker really gets out in front, there's little-to-nothing you can do. You can always take the ball away from the deke spammers.

I merely asked the question to make sure I didn't miss anything. We're free to use whatever captain we want for each step of the tournie, right?Personally, I'd like you to stick with the same team you at the beginning (as happens in the Cup), but if someone really wants to change teams for every match for some reason, I don't really have any interest in policing that.

[V Man]

Personally, I'd like you to stick with the same team you at the beginning (as happens in the Cup), but if someone really wants to change teams for every match for some reason, I don't really have any interest in policing that.


Do you think each tourney player should call out the team he plans on using? I mean, it would help the less skilled players in building strategies on how to defend.....

[tacklebox]

Is it just me or does it seem that nobody uses Daisy?

o_o

[botticus]

Do you think each tourney player should call out the team he plans on using? I mean, it would help the less skilled players in building strategies on how to defend.....Actually that reminds me that we can't enforce same teams across the tournament since there are more people than captains - not to mention two people can't be the same captain in the same game should they meet later. I think in future tournaments we'll see how we can deal with that. Maybe everyone calls a captain each round or maybe just for the final 8 or 4.

[Staind204]

I got the game but I'm not too impressed so far. I hate that the Mega shots take so long (even if you don't get it perfect or close you still have to watch the cutscene). Anyway my FC is

433898 988424

LMK if you add me so I can put you on my list as well.

[ratzombie]

I got the game but I'm not too impressed so far. I hate that the Mega shots take so long (even if you don't get it perfect or close you still have to watch the cutscene). Anyway my FC is

433898 988424

LMK if you add me so I can put you on my list as well.

The cut scene is too long? You have an incredibly short attention span, buddy. :lol:

[snipegod]

Is it just me or does it seem that nobody uses Daisy?

o_o

I use Daisy a lot. This ain't American Foosball, you know.

And, Staind204, I added you to my friendlist. My friendcode is in the OP.

[Tybee]

Is it just me or does it seem that nobody uses Daisy?

o_o

I've sometimes used Daisy when others pick Waluigi before me because she has comparable speed and a nice special move.

[Staind204]

The cut scene is too long? You have an incredibly short attention span, buddy. :lol:


I think its just because I was playing the Fire Cup against the computer. I was beating them by like 10-15 each time so I had to watch the scene so much. I just played a series of 3 online and only saw 3 mega shots in the 3 games (2 by me and 1 by him). I won 6-3 first game. Lost 3-0 second game. Then in the third game I scored with Hammer Bro with 8 sec left to win 2-1. I can see why you guys like playing online so much. Not a bit of lag either!

[tacklebox]

Staind, what's your name online? Think that might've been you that beat me with hammer bros, hah

[Staind204]

Staind, what's your name online? Think that might've been you that beat me with hammer bros, hah


I'm not sure my name on there but I was using Luigi. Were u Waluigi?

[tacklebox]

Nah, Daisy.

[mpj31]

I'll be using the same team the entire tournament. Please dont plan against me:

Hammer Bros, Birdo, Dry Bones, Waluigi

[zewone]

Wow, that first round was a real nail biter.

10 byes. :)

[buttle]

i think my biggest annoyance in the game has to be the replays. i wish that both players could cut off the replays. i really like watching the replays sometimes, but if the other player doesn't want to watch them, i shouldn't make them.

and since the system is what it is, i wish people would just skip the replays. am i the only one?

[tacklebox]

I gotta admit, sometimes I let the replays run if I feel like being a jackass. :p