I'm thinking about becoming a WoW player. Please help me. [Mobile/Archive]

Sofa King Kool

10-07-2006, 10:07 PM

For some reason, the WoW episode of South Park really made me want to play this game, but I really can't decide if I should or not. I've heard so many good things about it, and so many bad things. First of all, there is no way I'm going to be able to pay $15 bucks a month to play it. Second, I'm really afraid I'm going to become hoplessly addicted to it, and third, it doesn't look like a game thats easy to just pick up and play. I'm not so great at RPG's, so that's kind of a problem for me.

But the more I read about this game, the cooler it looks. I'm definetly going to have to play it at some point, so I want to be ready. I've been to the website and I've read a lot, but I want to hear some advice right from the players mouths. So I thought I'd ask some CAG's to help me out. What do I need to know? Tell me everything. Hints, stratagies, what character and class is the best, good ways to pay for it, etc.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Vinny

10-07-2006, 10:14 PM

It isn't too hard to play, I tried it for a 10 day period and didn't have any trouble.

What I didn't like was that running everything become increadibly boring. I wouldn't mind if it was every once in a while but pretty much every task after the first few required that I run from place to place.

But again, I only played it for a 10 day trail period so I don't have a good hold on the game. I think it's best if you try it for your self. I believe the game comes with a free month trail. If you can't pay the monthly fee, then that's a problem if you do become addicted to it.

DMFunk

10-07-2006, 10:41 PM

Wow Broken Down:
Levels 1-9: Hey This is Fun! I'm socializing with hundreds of people... r-tard!
Levels 10-19: Woah, What's this PvP Battleground thingy? Start instance running...
Levels 20-29: Instance Runs... Hmm New Pvp Battleground, quests are getting a little repeditive...
Levels 30-39: More Quests... Grind, Skills, Grind, Skills, Quests, Quests.
Levels 40-49: Bring on the instance runs, Grind, Skills, Instances
Levels 50-58: Ugh... This is like a Job... Instance Runs, Instance Runs, LFG, LFG, LFG, LFG!
Level 59: Grind like you're in a nightclub.
Level 60:
1) Damn wish I could find a guild that would let me run MC/AQ or ZG, but my gear sucks, and anyone i can group with ends up being a ninja...
2) Fucking guild keeps doing these raids... I have a life you know! Guild Drama... More Guild Drama, Expect Even more with the expansion as the new instances will NOT be 40 man...

FlipSide

10-07-2006, 10:45 PM

WoW is not a hard game to play, it takes a few mins to get us to the interface and maybe a an hour to figure out the game mechanics (questing, gaining exp, equipment etc). Traveling beyond the newbie zone seems intimidating at first but there are online maps of WoW zones so you'd know where to go and where not to.

The cheapest way for me without pre-paying for a 6 months or 1 year is buying a 60 day time card on amazon.com for $24.98. Thats $12.50 compared to $15+tax?? (i think they charge tax I could be wrong).

I use to play WoW for about a year, its extremely addicting. Its a great game from Level 1-59, but as soon as you hit 60 it becomes very tiring. You will spend hours and days trying to get better gears, competing with other players who are trying to get the same gear. With the expansion out, the level cap is now 70..so I guess now its fun from L1-69. If you want to play WoW, say goodbye to your social life.

As for what characters to play, Rogues are deadly but they die easy..there ARE plenty of them. I dont suggest them because you will have trouble finding groups to go with on instance dungeons, specially high level ones. I could say the same for Hunters.

Healers are always good play..Druids, Shamman and Priests. Warriors will always find a home in any high level group, since they are the only ones who could tank and survive high level instance boss. Race will also play a factor on you class, so read up the WoW forums on what race and class combo works best.

Sofa King Kool

10-07-2006, 11:29 PM

DMFunk

10-08-2006, 12:32 AM

I have no idea what most of that means.

Why does everyone keep telling me that the game starts to suck at level 60? What happens?

And what happens when you die? I don't really understand how this game works yet.

Ok, to break it down easily, the game is pretty much:
1.) Running around, completing quests for npcs, usually killing something, collecting items, or running some form of errand. (Questing)
2.) Leveling up your skills(Axe/Sword/Bow/Gun/Wand/etc.)/professions(Skinning/Blacksmitthing/Leathworking/etc.) This is done by also collecting items, and wasting time.
3.) Killing Monsters (mobs) over and over, just for exp and items (Grinding/Farming)
4.) Instance Running, Instances are dungeons created for you and your current party, No other people can enter an instance, unless they are in your party, i'd read more about it on the website if you need more information on them.

And when you reach level 60, you are pretty much still a noob until you have one of the armor sets, and some godly weapon, noone will respect you until then, and the game just becomes completely annoying unless you have a good guild (Remember that Fat Jabba-the-Hut guy from south Park, Yeah that's a 100% model of what a wow player that has everything essentially turns into, no life, just running ZG/AQ/MC (Level 60+ Instances) with his/her guild)

When you die, you become a ghost, run to your corpse to revive with only 10% durability loss, or revive at a spirit healer for a durability hit on items and ressurection sickness for 10 mins (temporary stat reduction)

Overall it's a fun/addicting game, but it's main goal is to turn a casual gamer into a hardcore gamer, taking any social interaction you have with it.

espy605

10-08-2006, 04:35 AM

Don't do it. It's time you'll never get back.

MrX

10-08-2006, 04:46 AM

Don't do it. It's time you'll never get back.

I concur

gunm

10-08-2006, 05:13 AM

I concur

third'd.

it's great fun for a while, but then you realize you'll never get the carrot on the stick and there's really better ways to engage in social interaction.

drezzit

10-08-2006, 11:32 AM

From what I heard, WoW sucks; overrated.

I'd probably go play EVE online if I were you though, that isnt necessarily a grind, just takes time to research but pvp in it is fun.

odhen

10-08-2006, 03:23 PM

I got bored/annoyed by level 30, and quit. Then again, I can't stand other people so I'm not sure why I was playing an MMO in the first place.

But if you really want to try it and don't know anyone with a trial code or whatever, I know they are selling a 14 day trial disc for $2 at Wal-mart (maybe other stores too, but Wal-mart is hte only place I've seen it).

Jek Porkins

10-08-2006, 03:34 PM

Do you like playing other games? You can kiss most of them goodbye when you start WoW. I've lost friends to it. Not that I don't consider them friends anymore, but I haven't seen them since they started playing WoW. We'll still call this particular friend that plays all the time to see if he wants to go out with the group, and he'll say "Yeah, that sounds fun." He never shows up.

Photomotoz

10-08-2006, 03:38 PM

WoW is a really great game. I got into it twice. The first time I played up to level 48 or so and had a bunch of mid-level characters too. The game is just fantastic the first time you play it. Up until level 30 you will be having a great time. At level 30 or so you will most likely see some of the game's shortcomings and not play as much. After that it gets a bit worse and worse. The solution is to join a good Guild and stick with it.

I also started playing again this summer. I only played for a little while. Up to level 20 or so, which is not a lot.

Overall I suggest you go for it. It is easy to pick up and fun to play. And why do people keep using the word addicted? If it is a good game why not keep playing? Addiction is where you cannot go on without it. And people can stop playing WoW at any time but just do not becuase it is just plain fun.

But, yeah. I do not play any more. After you play anything over and over it is bound to get old.

Moxio

10-08-2006, 04:46 PM

Don't even start.

Seriously.

Spades22

10-08-2006, 05:17 PM

Its a grindfest!!! I've played 3 Grindfesters in my lifetime and I never will again! The first one I was like "Hey, this is kinda cool". "2nd one was hmm this is alright...but I'll quit now even though it's alright because it's a waste of time", then the 3rd one even though I had already figured out as a waste of time just sucked me into playing and shortly after I realized its a huge waste of time since it provides no action and the only reason you play is for the people and the new things you get! So...now I stick to console games and PC shooters...and it's a lot more fun.

dothog

10-08-2006, 05:41 PM

Don't even start.

Seriously.

Seriously.

Sofa King Kool

10-08-2006, 05:45 PM

If I do decide to start playing it, I won't start until I've beaten all my games. Also, this isn't going to happen anytime soon. There's alot of stuff I need to buy before I can even think about playing this (Wii, HDtv, Gears of War, etc.)

I just really want to play this game while it's poular. Years from now everybody's going to be saying how great WoW was. I want to play it before it dies down, or else I'll never know what it was like.

biscuit

10-08-2006, 06:09 PM

If you want a taste of WoW without any cost you can ask anyone with a WoW account to send you a free trial. It's only a 10 day trial and there are some limitations. You will need a credit card for the trial though. Once you get the referal, you will get info to download the WoW client and then you can play. If you want to keep playing after the trial is over you will need to buy a copy of the game, which I think is only $20 retail and comes with a free month included.

Anyone you know who has the game and an active account can refer you through the WoW account management page. If you buy the game and continue to play, they will get a free month for refering you. There is a referal thread here on cag at:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95528&page=3

If you do not know anyone actively playing the game that you might want to give a free month, pick one of the cags from the above link (shameless plug - I can send you a referal too, just PM me an email address).

Biscuit

Spades22

10-08-2006, 06:15 PM

OR would you rather be one of the few who were "Never sucked in to the biggest waste of time games in history" (I'm one of them, don't go to the dark side!!!)

chewster777

10-08-2006, 06:20 PM

Don't do it!

PhreQuencYViii

10-08-2006, 06:30 PM

What about Guild Wars? It seems to be based on skill and not leveling, so it must take less time to play and still be fun, right?

gunm

10-09-2006, 04:52 AM

Guild Wars has better PvP, but the gist is the same. The only good thing I guess is you're not paying a monthly fee.

yuckfou

10-09-2006, 09:23 AM

"Go buy World of warcraft install it on your computer and join the online sensation, before we all murder you"

jalu6

10-09-2006, 11:37 AM

Look, like any other online game, WoW is completely what you make of it. Sure, there are some hardcore crazy 14 hour a day players with crazy gear (the South Park dude). Sure like anything else on the internet, the game has it's fill of knuckleheads. But what you won't hear on a message board is that the game also has a good amount of causual and non-hardcore players who play for 5-10 hours a week, take 8 months to hit level 60 (instead of 3 weeks) and just play the game to relax or enjoy themselves.

You dont HAVE to be hardcore. Will you want to be once you start playing? Maybe, it really depends on your personality. You may see the hardcore people's cool looking armor and weapons and want to be "respected" by those people, but the game is designed so that you absolutely don't need to. You can easily reach level 60 with gear you just find along the way or get from turning in quests. The game is VERY forgiving when it comes to skill and mistakes and if you get lost or stuck on a quest, there are entire websites devoted to showing you the way to go.

But it is just a game, and the experience you get out of it completely depends on what you put into it.

Kayden

10-09-2006, 12:45 PM

This man speaks the truth.

Wow Broken Down:
Levels 1-9: Hey This is Fun! I'm socializing with hundreds of people... r-tard!
Levels 10-19: Woah, What's this PvP Battleground thingy? Start instance running...
Levels 20-29: Instance Runs... Hmm New Pvp Battleground, quests are getting a little repeditive...
Levels 30-39: More Quests... Grind, Skills, Grind, Skills, Quests, Quests.
Levels 40-49: Bring on the instance runs, Grind, Skills, Instances
Levels 50-58: Ugh... This is like a Job... Instance Runs, Instance Runs, LFG, LFG, LFG, LFG!
Level 59: Grind like you're in a nightclub.
Level 60:
1) Damn wish I could find a guild that would let me run MC/AQ or ZG, but my gear sucks, and anyone i can group with ends up being a ninja...
2) Fucking guild keeps doing these raids... I have a life you know! Guild Drama... More Guild Drama, Expect Even more with the expansion as the new instances will NOT be 40 man...

lordwow

10-09-2006, 01:24 PM

I enjoyed WoW for about 2 months. I got to about level 45 and figured out that:

A) I needed at least 4-6 hours of playtime in a single sitting to be able to do anything, and I don't have that much time.
B) I'm doing pretty much the same stuff as I have been for 2 months, and it's getting boring.

Just my experience though.

Noodle Pirate!

10-09-2006, 06:38 PM

Dmfunk has it down. 100%
If you really want "help" the help we can give is don't get sucked into it. You'll wish you had the time back and had done something productive with your life.

If you still want to get into a mmoprg but dont like the cost. Try Hero online. Free and all the grinding fun of a huge lengthy mmoprg. At least when you realize that you wasted your time playing it, you wont have spent a dime on it and can sell your kit on ebay.
As a side note, WOW wouldnt be so bad if most of the players weren't complete tools. I guess it's like that in all mmorpgs though. Most of the decent smart people are out enjoying life.

CYRiX

10-10-2006, 04:04 PM

From the thread title it sounded as if you were already asking for help for your addiction to WoW which you haven't even played yet.

espy605

10-10-2006, 05:54 PM

Dmfunk has it down. 100%
If you really want "help" the help we can give is don't get sucked into it. You'll wish you had the time back and had done something productive with your life.
It's really odd because I waste my time doing so many things that are worthless (like most people here I waste time playing video games which has no real life value to it no matter what anyone says), but only playing an MMORPG have I found myself saying, "God, I want that time back."

As a side note, WOW wouldnt be so bad if most of the players weren't complete tools. I guess it's like that in all mmorpgs though. Most of the decent smart people are out enjoying life.
I don't think that's fair, there are plenty of tools in real life, too. The difference is in an anonymous online environment, people feel free from real life reprecussions (e.g. physical harm, social ostracism, etc.) they normally would have to consider. As it turns out, a lot of people's true natures are being tools.

cthcky33

10-10-2006, 11:39 PM

i enjoy wow, and i can see how it wastes my life... but it is o so much fun. tho im only at lvl 36, so i may still hit that point (i almost do right after i lvl up)

Michaellvortega

10-10-2006, 11:42 PM

just pay the $2 for the 14 trial at EB/GS at the cash register.

Oktoberfest

10-11-2006, 12:46 AM

If you can't afford it, don't subscribe, it's not worth spending all the money you get on it

And I don't even think it's that fun

dastly75

10-11-2006, 01:02 AM

If you believe in souls, WoW will take yours. Listen to all the people telling you not to do it, we've all been there and done that in one MMORPG or another.

Liquid 2

10-11-2006, 01:02 AM

"I'm thinking of becoming a WoW player"

big mistake. don't even start.

Pancake Rabbit

10-11-2006, 01:15 AM

Stay far away from warcraft.

lordwow

10-11-2006, 02:05 AM

I'm eagerly awaiting the sequel to this thread:

"I'm a WOW player thinking about quitting... Please.... HELP ME!"

coolcps

10-11-2006, 02:34 AM

Im gonna go with the don't do it, I played FFXI (same difference as WoW) and it was pretty darn "addicting", I had fun thought but stopped before my free month was up (put in nearly 200 hours though). If you want some sort of MMORPG taste I would go with guild wars, its like the MMORPG-lite and it really can't take up more time than a few good console RPGs would, and theres no "grinding" unless you have done all the missions and want to farm items and have no life for a pretty dead end game.

Sofa King Kool

10-11-2006, 05:27 PM

Alright. My main concern at this point is being able to pay for it. I have plenty of money, but it's gunna be hard for me to give up all that cash just to play a game. I think it's rediculous to have to pay a monthly fee to play a game http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/images/icons/icon8.gif

But fortunetly, a friend is going to share his account with me. So whenever he's at work, or not playing it, I can use it, (like he's ever gunna stop playing it).

If I can ever afford to dish out that kind of cash I'll definetly start playing, but $15 bucks a month is too steep for me. Ecspecially if it's for a game.

SpreadTheWord

10-11-2006, 08:00 PM

Noodle Pirate!

10-11-2006, 08:57 PM

I'm about to download the 10 day trial.

Two questions,

What are the best solo classes?

And what level can I expect to get to in ten days? (I won't be playing for any more than 3-5 hours a day, if that.)

Hunter for soloing( no down time), and if you dont know your way around then I would say maybe level 25.

Kayden

10-11-2006, 09:36 PM

I loved the Druid. Its the single most flexible class in the game. You can tank, heal, DPS, sneak, buff... the total package! Kitty form is hawt sechs.

dothog

10-12-2006, 12:09 AM

Alright. My main concern at this point is being able to pay for it. I have plenty of money, but it's gunna be hard for me to give up all that cash just to play a game. I think it's rediculous to have to pay a monthly fee to play a game

If I can ever afford to dish out that kind of cash I'll definetly start playing, but $15 bucks a month is too steep for me. Ecspecially if it's for a game.
I hunted around and bought 3 2-month cards at best buy and used a coupon from these very pages to get the cards for $60 total.

When I first started I thought the monthly fee was bogus. But if you get into it and you enjoy it, even if you're playing casually for 6-8 hours on the weekends, it's worth it (IMO). I didn't have a problem with the fees, and I think for all the gaming I got, WoW was quite a bargin (got the game and a free month for $19.99 and then 6 months for $60).

Having said that, make every attempt you possibly can to keep your gaming hours reasonable. I was a good little boy and played mostly casually up until the very end, and then I let raiding suck me in. I don't think it's any coincedence that my enjoyment of the game was inversely proportional to the time played per week. The game was crazy fun (especially with real-life friends over TS) from levels 30-58. Enjoy yourself in there.

Sofa King Kool

10-12-2006, 06:03 PM

Ok, I finally played with my 10 day trial, and holy shit do I suck. I literally die like every 30 seconds.

jawman311

10-12-2006, 06:14 PM

Ok, I finally played with my 10 day trial, and holy shit do I suck. I literally die like every 30 seconds.

quit now while you can

Theenternal

10-12-2006, 06:22 PM

quit now while you can

its too late for him

sarausagi

10-12-2006, 06:34 PM

If you're going to put hours a day into a game, it might as well be Dance Dance Revolution [because you'll be in excellent shape once you can do whole work outs of heavy songs]

Seriously, why would I play a game that wouldn't challenge me mentally, physically, and emotionally? DDR is one of those games.

Or Street Fighter, if I had the time I'd practice more and really start hitting the arcades.

That or poker, where there's money to be made I hear, I hate poker, but you can make money playing poker.

Hopefully you're not addicted buy now, think of what you can do with $15 a month, especially over the long run.

Sofa King Kool

10-12-2006, 08:23 PM

its too late for him

Don't worry. To be completely honest, I don't enjoy the game enough to waste my life away playing it. If I ever got good at it, I can definetly see myself playing it for only 2 to 3 hours a day before I got bored.

Toireht

10-18-2006, 11:15 PM

sarausagi

10-19-2006, 06:08 PM

I know this topic is probaly done and over with...but I just wanted to bring an article up to everyones attention who is considering playing WoW.

http://soulkerfuffle.blogspot.com/2006/10/view-from-top.html

Like a lot of people have said..play something else thats more rewarding.

Wow, so true, precisely why I've -never- played any online RPG's...there's no "end"..without an "end"..there's no purpose...it's not sport..it's not skill...so there's no point in pushing yourself harder.

More than anything it seems kind of demonic...I can't even get near playing 12 hours of ANYTHING [closest I've come is 10 hour bouts of Xenosaga..but that's about 6 hours playing and 4 hours watching, so it's more varied...and I can actually do other stuff and stop if I need to]

PapiChullo

10-23-2006, 05:07 PM

Hmm, I just got a new computer this past week, and picked up WOW, but I haven't played it yet. I just want to see what all of the hype is about. I don't see myself getting addicted to it though, since I don't have an addictive personality and the $15/month thing really bugs me. I can easily afford it, but paying to play games online sucks.

We'll see how I feel a month from now though after the free trial is up. I really don't see myself playing for more than maybe 2 months.

tony72

10-26-2006, 12:26 AM

I don't understand why anyone thinks you have to play for 10 hours a day. I guess it's the "all you can eat buffet" mentality, where you supposedly aren't "getting your money's worth" unless you are there every single spare hour you have.

I think another issue (problem) is with people who have never played immersive games like this. I've been playing MMOGs since the 300 baud days (if you want to consider those type of games MMOGs), so none of this is anything new. But for people who have not learned how to balance it in their lives... it's sometimes a tough lesson.

Like The Tick says, gravity is a harsh mistress.

MorbidAngel4Life

10-26-2006, 05:28 AM

Another life lost to the cocaine disc.

dracula

10-26-2006, 10:16 PM

Kayden

10-27-2006, 12:27 AM

you know, i have considered getting into this a few times, ive never played a mmorpg but am a bit curious. My only concern would be playing with several hundred 12 year olds(i am 29) and all of the "leet" talk, i would get sick of that so fast

Its not really that bad actually... Well, depending on your guild. Most established guilds are mostly older people who are generally mature. Unfortunately, most established guilds don't want some noob ass.