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Oops! I did it again.
10-11-2006, 05:31 AM
http://www.cubed3.com/news/6113/1/All_the_Wii%20and%20DS_Details_from_Japan

There was a low-key Nintendo conference over in Japan and now we can bring you all the details straight from the event, courtesy of neo2046 and Jonnyram from NeoGAF and summarised by Amir0x.

First of all, Shigeru Miyamoto has unveiled something called a 'Health Pack' (working title) for Nintendo's Wii, which is related to Family Health Check;

Following the half-million selling Cooking Navi for DS, a new edition will be made available. Called "DS Menu Collection" it will have 1,000 in-built recipes and comes with a magnetic stand that attaches to your fridge, so you do not have to leave your vulnerable DS by the cooker (it will cost an extra 1,200Yen). It is also Wi-Fi compatible!

More videos have been released, which can be seen here: Wii-Experience (http://wii.com/jp/wii-experience);

As of next Spring (2007), Nintendo will apparently do away with discs and manuals for some games as part of the "Wii Compact Software" line, meaning you can simply download the titles;

From launch until the end of 2006, Japan will see 18 Wii games launched;

Nintendo will be following the successful strategy taken with the DS for the Wii's life;

Big Brain Academy on Wii will not be released until Spring 2007;

Including titles from the MegaDrive and PC Engine, there will be about 60 Virtual Console games launched in Japan before the end of 2006;

Japan will see The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess on Gamecube released ONLY online.

Wii Points Prepaid Card Details

1,000Yen = 1,000 Wii points
3,000Yen = 3,000 Wii points
5,000Yen = 5,000 Wii points + classic Controller


Other Pricing Details

Power brick = 3,000Yen
Composite cable = 1,000Yen
S-Video = 2,500Yen
D terminal = 2,500Yen
Component cable = 2,500Yen
512MB SD Card = 3,800Yen
Wired LAN Adapter = 2,800Yen


http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/accessories/index.html

The photos have been made available there...

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/accessories/img/p_acadapter.jpg

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/accessories/img/p_avcable.jpg

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/accessories/img/p_s_cable.jpg

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/accessories/img/p_d_avcable.jpg

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/accessories/img/p_component.jpg

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/accessories/img/p_sdcard.jpg

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/accessories/img/p_lan_adapter.jpg

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3154345

Another write-up to be found at 1up.

judyjudyjudy
10-11-2006, 05:53 AM
Looks like component cables won't be more than $30. Hopefully people will freak out a little less.

daroga
10-11-2006, 07:46 AM
Good to see more info coming in. If we could just get something out of NoA, that's be great.

$20 for a component cable in the states would be wonderful.

EDIT: Nevermind, D-Terminal is Japan-only.

pop311
10-11-2006, 08:54 AM
Japan only, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Plinko
10-11-2006, 09:03 AM
The component cables are not Japan only, so I would expect the price to be $25-$30. That's good news, especially since I sold my GC cables for $50.

foltzie
10-11-2006, 09:38 AM
Ouch, $20-25 for a USB ethernet jack... Not liking wireless internet is going to hurt me a bit.

botticus
10-11-2006, 09:51 AM
Wait, wha.... how is Zelda for GameCube going to be downloaded in Japan? Wouldn't that take up most/all of the onboard storage? Or is that referring to an Electroplankton-like release where it can only be bought from online retailers?

daroga
10-11-2006, 09:53 AM
Wait, wha.... how is Zelda for GameCube going to be downloaded in Japan? Wouldn't that take up most/all of the onboard storage?
Not downloaded, ordered online only. Kinda like the Pokemon Box game or Electroplankton here in the states.

I guess the price on that USB ethernet thing isn't that far off, though I'd have thought these things would be cheaper:
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F5D5050-Networking-Ethernet-Adaptor/dp/B000062R4P

botticus
10-11-2006, 09:55 AM
Not downloaded, ordered online only. Kinda like the Pokemon Box game or Electroplankton here in the states.

I guess the price on that USB ethernet thing isn't that far off, though I'd have thought these things would be cheaper:
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F5D5050-Networking-Ethernet-Adaptor/dp/B000062R4PYeah, I caught myself there. I just got confused due to the "Wii Compact line" of downloadable titles.

Ouch, $20-25 for a USB ethernet jack... Not liking wireless internet is going to hurt me a bit.Honestly, I'd get a crappy wireless router for $20 rather than the adapter. You don't have to use wireless for the rest of your home network if you don't want to, but at least if you do, you'll get additional use out of it.

I'm curious if those videos are actually random people playing the games, or if they just went with a new method of not showing crazy exaggerated movements. Okay, those have to be random people off the street.

Here's the US movie page: http://us.wii.com/experience_gallery.jsp

foltzie
10-11-2006, 10:08 AM
Honestly, I'd get a crappy wireless router for $20 rather than the adapter. You don't have to use wireless for the rest of your home network if you don't want to, but at least if you do, you'll get additional use out of it.

The problem is that I dont want to expose any wireless network outside my home. It is a paranoia, but I dont want campers parked outside my house using wireless bleeding outside the walls. I'm already in the market for a wireless router thats easy to turn the wireless on and off for the DS and that may be the same answer I use for the Wii, at least initially.

dmaul1114
10-11-2006, 10:13 AM
Just use security and the "campers" problem is pretty much solved.

Just have the very slight risk of hackers who can get around it, but skilled hackers have bigger targets than individuals 99% of the time.

dmaul1114
10-11-2006, 10:29 AM
Forgot to mention that the better option is to just get the Nintendo WiFi dongle. It will work for the DS and Wii, and not for pcs, so you won't have to worry about campers, hackers etc.

secretvampire
10-11-2006, 10:50 AM
So much for the Sony fanboys spreading FUD about $70 component cables.

ArthurDigbySellers
10-11-2006, 10:55 AM
2500 Yen for the Component cable. That should be around $20-$30 US. That isn't too bad (although I still wish they had packed in a multi-AV cable.)

How much you want to bet that Japan is the only place that these "compact software" games will come out. They always get the cool experimental stuff.

SpazX
10-11-2006, 11:33 AM
Nice, the component cables will probably only be $20-$25 then. It sucks that they didn't pack a multi-whatever, but it's nice that they won't cost much. I hope they get the classic controller with $50 cards here, I might pick one of those up.

EDIT: Looking up current prices, the gamecube s-video cable is 2500 yen and $15.95 here, so a $15-20 price might be feasible, but the composite cable is 1500 yen and also $15.95 here, so....I guess it's another wait and see...

EDIT THE SECOND: But good news is that the component gamecube cables cost 3500 yen there, so there's an obvious price difference and most likely the component cables for Wii will be cheaper than the gamecube component cables were (they probably don't have a DAC, and if they don't there will probably be third party component cables as well).

elwood731
10-11-2006, 12:25 PM
Doesn't Wii Compact Software sound like XBLA? I wonder how many titles they'll release this way, and how big of downloads they'll be.

munch
10-11-2006, 12:36 PM
If component cables are under $30, then I'll be buying them along with my launch wii.

guessed
10-11-2006, 12:49 PM
Doesn't Wii Compact Software sound like XBLA? I wonder how many titles they'll release this way, and how big of downloads they'll be.

VC seems a lot like XBLA. Wii Compact Software sounds more like digital distribution of full-sized games, but there isn't enough information to know that for certain.

Ikohn4ever
10-11-2006, 12:50 PM
sounds good, just wish NOA did something like this with the launch a month and a couple days away

dserafin1986
10-11-2006, 12:53 PM
Looks like component cables won't be more than $30. Hopefully people will freak out a little less.

This is excellent news!

elwood731
10-11-2006, 01:41 PM
VC seems a lot like XBLA. Wii Compact Software sounds more like digital distribution of full-sized games, but there isn't enough information to know that for certain.
Eh, doesn't sound like full retail type software to me, but more like the exclusively designed XBLA titles such as Geometry Wars, etc. I guess we'll see.

guessed
10-11-2006, 01:54 PM
Eh, doesn't sound like full retail type software to me, but more like the exclusively designed XBLA titles such as Geometry Wars, etc. I guess we'll see.

But that sort of thing was already announced for VC, which is why I thought this would be something different.

Strell
10-11-2006, 02:14 PM
Hmmm.

So there will be a cable for monitor hookup, if I'm understanding that correctly.

I really, really would like to be told by NoA the following things:

Yes Strell, we will offer you a second Wiimote when you buy Wii Play, like we've announced in Japan. We also will give you a free Classic Controller if you buy $50 in Wii Points.

'Cuz then I'd say:

Thank you, American Nintendo Sea Dogs, arrrr. Me hearties will most be appreciatin' yer kindness.

Do not let me down Kapp'n NoA, or yer timbers be shiver'd, arrr.

aaandrewww
10-11-2006, 02:18 PM
If the 'cube Zelda ends up only available online here too, I wonder if it will end up being, not rare, but uncommon.

lordwow
10-11-2006, 02:21 PM
I'll be a big fan if I can get 5000 points and a controller.

regisphilbi0
10-11-2006, 02:32 PM
I would definitely jump on $50 wii points and a classic controller. That would be pretty sweet. And I had never heard of the Wii Play/ Second wii-mote combo. How much does it cost in Japan? I would definitely buy that.

guessed
10-11-2006, 02:36 PM
I really, really would like to be told by NoA the following things:

Yes Strell, we will offer you a second Wiimote when you buy Wii Play, like we've announced in Japan. We also will give you a free Classic Controller if you buy $50 in Wii Points.

'Cuz then I'd say:

Thank you, American Nintendo Sea Dogs, arrrr. Me hearties will most be appreciatin' yer kindness.

Do not let me down Kapp'n NoA, or yer timbers be shiver'd, arrr.

I agree with Strell. Eww, now I feel unclean.

Strell
10-11-2006, 02:37 PM
I agree with Strell. Eww, now I feel unclean.

That is how you are supposed to feel, arrr.

botticus
10-11-2006, 02:40 PM
I would definitely jump on $50 wii points and a classic controller. That would be pretty sweet. And I had never heard of the Wii Play/ Second wii-mote combo. How much does it cost in Japan? I would definitely buy that.In Japan Wii Play was the cost of the Wiimote, but it came with the controller. So I like to think of it more like getting Wii Play free with the purchase of a second Wiimote.

regisphilbi0
10-11-2006, 03:44 PM
In Japan Wii Play was the cost of the Wiimote, but it came with the controller. So I like to think of it more like getting Wii Play free with the purchase of a second Wiimote.

Thats awesome. I would definitely pay $40 for Wii Play and a second Wiimote.

psunami
10-11-2006, 03:50 PM
I wasn't planning on picking up the classic controller for my system... but if there are enough VC games that I'm interested in... I'll pick up the 5000 point package and controller if it's available in the US.

cochesecochese
10-11-2006, 03:52 PM
Goddamnit. I know I'm jumping the gun on this one but it looks like we're getting the same deal as we did with the DS: We get the system first but Japan ends up getting all the cool shit.

daroga
10-11-2006, 03:54 PM
Hmmm.

So there will be a cable for monitor hookup, if I'm understanding that correctly.
If you're looking at D-Terminal, that's a special port on TVs in Japan, and not in the States. Despite looking like a "D," it's neither VGA nor DVI.

SpazX
10-11-2006, 03:54 PM
Goddamnit. I know I'm jumping the gun on this one but it looks like we're getting the same deal as we did with the DS: We get the system first but Japan ends up getting all the cool shit.

Japan always gets all the cool shit, period.

It doesn't even apply to just Nintendo, but everything ever.

daroga
10-11-2006, 03:55 PM
Japan always gets all the cool shit, period.

It doesn't even apply to just Nintendo, but everything ever.
But ESPECIALLY Nintendo.

What did Japan get with the DS that we didn't?

maigoyume
10-11-2006, 04:01 PM
But ESPECIALLY Nintendo.

What did Japan get with the DS that we didn't?special ds colours, limited edition bundles, lots of japanese titles that never see the light of localization, honestly the list is friggin long :cry:

foltzie
10-11-2006, 04:04 PM
But ESPECIALLY Nintendo.

What did Japan get with the DS that we didn't?

Kirby Stylus packed in, Game & Watch DS games, for a while Electroplankton, currently the DS Opera Browser, Play-Yan, Hori equipment, and DS Lite rumble pack.

Tybee
10-11-2006, 04:58 PM
If you're looking at D-Terminal, that's a special port on TVs in Japan, and not in the States. Despite looking like a "D," it's neither VGA nor DVI.

Ah, thanks for that. I thought it was analagous with VGA.

lordwow
10-11-2006, 05:18 PM
Maybe I'm being an idiot, but I don't understand why Nintendo is giving all the loving to Japan (other than the fact they're in Japan). Don't they need to increase their market share in the US... not Japan?

Strell
10-11-2006, 05:20 PM
Maybe I'm being an idiot, but I don't understand why Nintendo is giving all the loving to Japan (other than the fact they're in Japan). Don't they need to increase their market share in the US... not Japan?

Well, if the PS3 really only has 100K units at launch, this is prime possibility for Nintendo to overtake Japan.

If they do that, they'll get much more developer support.

So they need to play the cards right to win there, which could help them everywhere else.

I think they can be set for the time being in the US, and are gambling that winning Japan = more games = just in time to help out US and other territories.

That's just a theory, though.

botticus
10-11-2006, 05:20 PM
Maybe I'm being an idiot, but I don't understand why Nintendo is giving all the loving to Japan (other than the fact they're in Japan). Don't they need to increase their market share in the US... not Japan?They're a Japanese company. Sony has great market share in both regions, and they show a lot of favoritism to Japan as well (most recently a reduced PS3 cost). I think in Nintendo's case it's more just that NCL runs the show, they do their own thing, while NOA pretty much does what NCL tells them to do. I don't know how much independence they have.

lordwow
10-11-2006, 05:29 PM
Thanks for the responses guys, I never really understood NCL and NOA and their relationship, it does seem bizzare the way they do things sometims.

Eitehr way, I'm still happy with what they've done recently, we'll see what happens with the US launch VC + stuff.

cochesecochese
10-12-2006, 01:30 AM
They're a Japanese company. Sony has great market share in both regions, and they show a lot of favoritism to Japan as well (most recently a reduced PS3 cost). I think in Nintendo's case it's more just that NCL runs the show, they do their own thing, while NOA pretty much does what NCL tells them to do. I don't know how much independence they have.
NOA has zero independence. Supposedly they had a fair amount back in the day but ever since NOA proper began turning a profit NCL tightened up that leash.

EDIT: NOA NOA NOA

Kaijufan
10-12-2006, 02:48 AM
If component cables are that cheap here in the US I may have to get some and a component cable switch.
If anyone knows a good price for a component switch please post it.

io
10-12-2006, 06:07 AM
If component cables are that cheap here in the US I may have to get some and a component cable switch.
If anyone knows a good price for a component switch please post it.

Well, when I was looking for one after I got my PS2 in Jan 2005 I couldn't find one anywhere except online for $100+. Finally I bought one at Fry's for about $80 - I forget the damn name (thinking it is a Pelican Pro or something), but it has about 8 buttons on the front, and also switches the optical audio for you as well (nice). It is an active one (plugged in). I had really only wanted a passive one. More recently I've seen them at Gamestop, and I bought one on clearance at Target for $8 or so. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with that one though :D.

Anyway, I'm not even hooking up the Wii until I have the component cables. It would be nice if they were $20-$30 and not the $60 that GS listed the 3rd party ones for.

Plinko
10-12-2006, 08:03 AM
Well, when I was looking for one after I got my PS2 in Jan 2005 I couldn't find one anywhere except online for $100+. Finally I bought one at Fry's for about $80 - I forget the damn name (thinking it is a Pelican Pro or something), but it has about 8 buttons on the front, and also switches the optical audio for you as well (nice). It is an active one (plugged in). I had really only wanted a passive one. More recently I've seen them at Gamestop, and I bought one on clearance at Target for $8 or so. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with that one though :D.

Anyway, I'm not even hooking up the Wii until I have the component cables. It would be nice if they were $20-$30 and not the $60 that GS listed the 3rd party ones for.

If they're 2500 yen in Japan, they'll probably be $20-$30 here.

-Never4ever-
10-12-2006, 10:27 AM
If the 'cube Zelda ends up only available online here too, I wonder if it will end up being, not rare, but uncommon.

I can almost say with certain that it won't be over here. I already have my preorder paid in full, so they damn well better not!!