CAGcast #50: Trick or Twiit

[CheapyD]

50 episodes strong! This week's show features Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Splinter Cell: Double Agent, CheapyD's latest hands-on PS3 experience, new releases, industry news, your questions from the CAGbag and much more!

Sorry, the audio quality starts off a bit shakey, but it clears up fast.

Just post a comment and you will be entered in our contest.
We will do a super drawing during the 50th episode special (CAGcast #51).


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Show Linkage:
Intro music: Ghostbusters / Ghosts 'n' Goblins Instant OC Remix (http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR00004/)

CAGcast Contest - Prizes: Namco (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ORGBP521631A), Nintendo (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ORGBP519901A), Phoenix Wright (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-92-49-en-70-1dal.html)

CAGcast Voicemail! - Leave us a 50th Episode Message (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110216)
CAGcast Survey (http://www.podtrac.com/audience/start-survey.aspx?ver=1&pid=3GISo-m8x9E$)

Phoenix Wright "Objection" website (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/index.php)

CheapyD at Akihabara PS3 Event (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113231)
Xbox 360 launch games list (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/xbox360launchgames.htm) - PS3 launch games list (http://www.destructoid.com/the-official-ps3-launch-game-lineup)
flOw flash game (http://intihuatani.usc.edu/cloud/flowing/core.html)

New releases (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6160707.html)

Gears of War Multiplayer Videos (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=1650)
COD3 Multiplayer Video (http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?fs=1&id=2650)

Lik-Sang Phishing Scam E-Mail (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113345)
XBox 360 Bundle @ Wal-Mart (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113383)
Final Fantasy XII for $37.99 at CircuitCity.com (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113183)

Iwata: Virtual Console Biggest Money Maker for Nintendo
Confirmed, Japan Getting Wii-VD
More Wii Secrets, Revelation Coming
(http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/wii/more-wii-secrets-revelation-coming-211056.php)360 Dashboard Update - 31 October 2006
(http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113246)Xbox 360 Fall Update bricking systems?
Sony Cuts Japan Launch Numbers
(http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/sony-cuts-japan-launch-numbers-211185.php)Sony to sell PS3 I.O.U. in Japan (http://feeds.joystiq.com/%7Er/weblogsinc/joystiq/%7E3/42486205/)

Outro: Advanced D&D Intellivision (http://gameads.gamepressure.com/tv_game_commercial.asp?ID=4644)



Bonus Pictures!
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/ymij/cheapydhalloween.jpg

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/ymij/wombathalloween.jpg

[Grave_Addiction]

Jlarlee is really a woman.

[smellytim]

Happy 50th CAGcast! I cant wait to listen, but alas it is 73 minutes long and I am tired.

[AshesofWake]

woo just in time!

[Ugamer_X]

Jlarlee is really a woman.
It's true, I've played videogames with him over the interwebs.

I was about to go to sleep, but now I'll listen to this.

[JackFlash666]

#50 and just as great as ever. I was waiting to hear about the PS3 stuff since you posted the pics the other day. Oh and the bonus picture is hilarious. Keep it up, lookin forward to #100!:applause:

[GenDV138]

I'll listen to #50 when I wake up, looking forward to another great CAGcast!

[DT778]

awesome.

[-Neo]

Congrats :applause:

[zewone]

I'm disappointed.

Firstly, this isn't the celebration show I was hoping for.

Second, you used a lame Wii joke. I can't wait until they die off. Why o why couldn't they just have let the name be Revolution or Gamecube 1.5?

Other than those two things, not bad.

[$hady]

Pretty good stuff but where are the Wonder Woman pics? :D

[Bazz]

Congratulations , Nice bonus costume pics. Listening now being I been up half night cause Wii Pre-orders.

[KaneRobot]

Re: Those pics - to quote Kiss:

YOU PULLED THE TRIGGER OF MY....LOVE GUNNNNNNN

[evanft]

Re: Those pics - to quote Kiss:

YOU PULLED THE TRIGGER OF MY....LOVE GUNNNNNNN

\m/

I'm entering the contest, again.

[Cursor]

Cool! Congrats on 50 and enter me in the drawing for some CAG swag.

[wageslave]

Great show. I especially liked the PS3 previews. Looking foreward to hearing from Mrs. Wombat and Mrs. Cheapy.

Wombat, if Zelda isn't a "mouser" maybe you need a cat (or a terrier). ;)

[hufferstl]

Thanks for making my wednesday morning at work much better.

Congrats on the 50 episodes, looking forward to 50 more before you settle for that guys $6,000.

[bigjon1805]

50 and many more to go!

[Hunter and friends]

I seem to be missing the link to the phoenix wright objection site... or is it not there? I just woke up and haven't had coffee yet.

Happy 50th!

[teknomusik]

Good show :applause:

No matter how many times I hear the PS3 Genji jokes (giant enemy crab, massive damage, etc.) I never get tired of them :D

Keep 'em comin!

[youruglyclone]

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/index.php

the objection link.

also congrats on the 50th

[gunm]

Tagged for contest! Happy 50th episode. Can't wait for 51 already!

Wombat: Sony's consumer electronics business isn't as big a moneymaker as you are thinking--the margins in the electronics industry in general are fairly small. However, Sony is diversified in media and electronics, so they can leverage any game business losses with their other businesses. Sony has stated that the playstation brand is extremely important to the bottom line, and they have PS2 and it's enormous installed base to prove it.

[AK85]

Good show, makes my hour long break at school seem not as boring ;)

[PenguinoMF]

Congrats on 50.

Great Halloween costumes guys.

[robbyrob]

Much Props on 50 episodes Dudes! You've been rockin the whole time. Looking forward to another 50. Keep up the good work.

Robbyrob

[Shokti]

Congratulations fellas, I am also posting in hopes of winning a Phoenix Wright toy, but I think your contests are rigged.

Solid show!

[cruzincontrol]

What a interesting show...Wombat saying Marvel Ultimate Alliance is the best "race" game or was it best game for "all races"...And Cheapy saying that if you're on Cheap Ass Gamer you should be "adult" enough to make right decisions. I find faults on both of those statements. I disagree on the Marvel Ultimate Alliance but understand the point you were trying to kind of make. But there's not enough diversity there. I've been a part of the site for almost three years and definently found some non-adult decisions or remarks made. For the Cagbag I have questions for the women in your lives. For Mrs. Cheapy how do you feel about Cheapy running this site and basically delving his life into video games and NOT having to REALLY work? Also what games do you enjoy playing (with or without cheapy)? For Mrs. Wombat what games do you enjoy playing (with or without Wombat)? Also do either of these guys make enough one-on-one time for you?

[Wombat]

What a interesting show...Wombat saying Marvel Ultimate Alliance is the best "race" game or was it best game for "all races"...And Cheapy saying that if you're on Cheap Ass Gamer you should be "adult" enough to make right decisions. I find faults on both of those statements. For the Cagbag I have questions for the women in your lives. For Mrs. Cheapy how do you feel about Cheapy running this site and basically delving his life into video games and NOT having to REALLY work? Also what games do you enjoy playing (with or without cheapy)? For Mrs. Wombat what games do you enjoy playing (with or without Wombat)?

What I was trying to say is that it was one of the best examples of a game having multiple races, without that characters race being important to the story or that characters race being the motivation for his being in the game to begin with. They are just good characters that happen to be black, white, male or female, games dont do that enough.

I would have sounded more elloquent on the show but Cheapy interrupted me ;)

[Kayden]

I suggest you have sex with your wive's hand. :rofl:

[GamerChris]

Wombat has been saying some lines that had me laughing pretty hard recently:

"Flaggot" (this episode) & "Crazy Chair Hand Batman" (last episode?)

Keep up the good work guys!!

[peteyrose]

Congrats on the 50!

And screw 1up for not giving credit to CAG. Here's the article in question, although there are probably many more. http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3154748

[wirelessguy]

Great show guys. Congrats on the big 50!

[thorbahn3]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/thorbahn3/wombathalloween.jpg

Wombat is a much braver man than I.

Great show and I'd like to say that the Cagcast is much easier to listen before and after work rather than all at once. makes the 78 minutes not seem like forever. Also ban dormer if he doesn't give Cag credit again.

[daphatty]

Sorry Wombat, but your assessment of Sony's earnings is dead wrong. Sony Computer Entertainment has, in fact, been the ONLY branch within Sony to earn a profit on the products and services they offer numerous times in the past 10 years. In fact, Sony Computer Entertainment was making so much profit that Sony Corp. completely reorganized their divisions such that SCE became one of the four core businesses within the corporation. (SCE used to be a subdivision of Sony Music.)

Rest assured, the financial loss that Sony Computer Entertainment is going to incur with the PS3 is going to have WAY more of an affect on Sony Corp as a whole than you realize. The issues that the other Sony divisions are having aren't helping matters either.

The current state of affairs at Sony Corp make it clear that Sony, in fact, DOES NOT have the means to carry itself through the impending financial losses of the PS3. Mark my words, it's going to take a miracle to bring Sony out of the depths of the shithole they have created for themselves.

EDIT: One more thing. Nintendo does have another MAJOR revenue source. It's called Pokemon. :P

[Wombat]

Sorry Wombat, but your assessment of Sony's earnings is dead wrong. Sony Computer Entertainment has, in fact, been the ONLY branch within Sony to earn a profit on the products and services they offer numerous times in the past 10 years. In fact, Sony Computer Entertainment was making so much profit that Sony Corp. completely reorganized their divisions such that SCE became one of the four core businesses within the corporation. (SCE used to be a subdivision of Sony Music.)

Rest assured, the financial loss that Sony Computer Entertainment is going to incur with the PS3 is going to have WAY more of an affect on Sony Corp as a whole than you realize. The issues that the other Sony divisions are having aren't helping matters either.

The current state of affairs at Sony Corp make it clear that Sony, in fact, DOES NOT have the means to carry itself through the impending financial losses of the PS3. Mark my words, it's going to take a miracle to bring Sony out of the depths of the shithole they have created for themselves.

EDIT: One more thing. Nintendo does have another MAJOR revenue source. It's called Pokemon. :P

again we have all proven that I in fact know very little about anything, yet I did sound so convincing, didnt I?, although I consider Pokemon part of the Nintendo gaming picture and I was right about Mircosoft, so that should count for something right?

At least I make a cool GL

[shipwreck]

again we have all proven that I in fact know very little about anything, yet I did sound so convincing, didnt I?, although I consider Pokemon part of the Nintendo gaming picture and I was right about Mircosoft, so that should count for something right?

At least I make a cool GL

If you buy Mortal Kombat 3 without splitting it with me, I will point out all your other mistakes in this episode as well... and ban you so hard your mom will ask "what was that?"

[daphatty]

If you buy Mortal Kombat 3 without splitting it with me, I will point out all your other mistakes in this episode as well... and ban you so hard your mom will ask "what was that?"

:rofl:

[Wombat]

If you buy Mortal Kombat 3 without splitting it with me, I will point out all your other mistakes in this episode as well... and ban you so hard your mom will ask "what was that?"

Thanks shippy, on a side note, http://www.cio.com/blog_view.html?CID=25920
theres some how SOny makes money info for us all to learn from, see their profit still comes from TV's, I'm not the PS3 isnt important for the bottom line, just that Nintendo doesnt make TV's.

[Strell]

KaneRobot,

I just wanted to point out that in your voice mail re: this Cagcast, you sound exactly like Kevin from The Office.

Otherwise keep up the gud verks.

[Sarang01]

I listened to the CAGCast and Cheapy I'm wondering WHY you didn't mention
RR7. Did you play it or what? Because I'm really wondering how the graphics were for it.

[JohnnyDrama]

Very nice, congrats on the 50th episode!

[shipwreck]

I listened to the CAGCast and Cheapy I'm wondering WHY you didn't mention
RR7. Did you play it or what? Because I'm really wondering how the graphics were for it.

That reminded me of something they forgot to mention in the "New Releases" section as well: http://www.lrm2007.com/

What the hell kind of journalism is this anyway?

[maxwellhouse]

Congratulations on your 50th show!

[Chacrana]

30 minutes in and it's a good show so far... but as far as Wombat's semi rant about there not being a good platformer at launch... I'm glad there's not. The genre's been done to death and it's simply not fun anymore.

[sonicfreak5]

good show guys.. been listening since #1...
Waiting for next week

[Kayden]

I think you guys should use the voice mail as an audition board for the CAG casts. Post a topic and people can give their ideas. Then, they can join in for 5-10 minutes on the next CAG cast and share their insight.

I bring this up because (this being my first listen) I noticed that there are certain aspects of gaming that just get glossed over because neither of you have interest in them. "FFXII is coming out today... You care? Me either!" You guys also seem to have too similar opinions to make really provacative discussion. "I like game X! I like game X as well! *High Five*" You need more of a point- counter point.

[gunm]

Thanks shippy, on a side note, http://www.cio.com/blog_view.html?CID=25920
theres some how SOny makes money info for us all to learn from, see their profit still comes from TV's, I'm not the PS3 isnt important for the bottom line, just that Nintendo doesnt make TV's.

Apologies, not trying to pick on you this week, but I think you are mis-interpreting the linked article. The part you are referring to is only saying that Sony's electronics divison is in a restructuring phase and that certain products (LCD TVs and digital cameras in particular) are meeting sales estimates. It is not saying that the bulk of Sony's operating profit is coming from the sales of TVs (this is considering that cameras, computers, and audio equipment also comprise Sony's consumer electronics business, and also considering that Sony owns several other different businesses besides that). In fact, over the last several years, it was the Playstation that was carrying the company's bottom line, only recently losing a lot of ground due to the development costs of the PS3.

I do agree with you, though, that Nintendo has no other businesses to fall back on, but Sony's position is still tenous given the amount of profit that the Playstation brand has historically provided. I don't think Sony is in a healthy enough financial position to comfortably rely on any of it's other businesses to maintain shareholder value. That's what dephatty et all are saying, I think...

[Mulliga2]

That's a pretty sweet costume for being homemade, Wombat.

I have to agree with the "certain aspects of gaming are ignored" complaint. But there's only two guys doing the show and thus only two people playing games. To have someone talk about FFXII, I'd rather they actually play it (I'm about 7 hours in and it seems like a quality FF - definitely the one to pick up of you like MMORPGs).

[c!ty]

Sweet. You guys read my review and subsequently I listened to the CAGcast 4 times today.
If you hadn't read my review, I probably would have only listened twice.
You guys make the work day go by so much quicker.

[Wombat]

That's a pretty sweet costume for being homemade, Wombat.

I have to agree with the "certain aspects of gaming are ignored" complaint. But there's only two guys doing the show and thus only two people playing games. To have someone talk about FFXII, I'd rather they actually play it (I'm about 7 hours in and it seems like a quality FF - definitely the one to pick up of you like MMORPGs).

The problem to be honest, is that its not a game on my radar, and I really dont have the time to play games that I'm not "interested" in. If I had the time to put forth the genuine effort I would give detailed reviews of every FF game that comes down the pike, they propbably even be postive and informative. Or aleast one of the 2

[Mike23]

Solid CAGCast.

[Kayden]

The problem to be honest, is that its not a game on my radar, and I really dont have the time to play games that I'm not "interested" in. If I had the time to put forth the genuine effort I would give detailed reviews of every FF game that comes down the pike, they propbably even be postive and informative. Or aleast one of the 2

Thats part of what I was saying. You guys have no interest in certain genres/fields. This is the first one I've heard, but it left me with the impression that neither you or cheapy really give a hoot about RPGs or the totallity of PC games in general. Action/adventure/plaforming and FPS seems to be the bulk of your combined interests. Thats why I suggested the guest spots. You could throw out 5-10 minutes a week to a different CAG to both diversify the opinions on the show and to not only feed the community, but involve it. Can you imagine what it'd be like to tap epo's brain for 5 minutes? We'd need the rest of the week to just digest everything he said.

You guys are funny and it was a great start to my morning, but at the end I was just left feeling like the guy you were talking about that said you guys were a bit uninformative. I walked away knowing that you and Cheapy like shooters and platformers and rape your wives' hands in their sleep. "Games Cheapy and Wombat like" doesn't really enlighten the community of CAG as a whole. Infact, you spent most of your time talking about high profile games from highly saturated genres that most people have already played or have a strong opinion formed about them. Additionally, when you boil it down, you essentially say "if you liked the other games in the series, you'll like this one!" You don't really say what makes it so great beyond the fact that its better than the last game, which was totally awesome to start with!

I don't wanna sound like I'm endlessly bitching, I just think there are some areas that could be worked on to broaden appeal/usefulness of the podcast. You guys are pretty funny though.

[MysteryMan2333]

I disagree with discussing games that you guys don't care about. Then you'll just be bashing the game and people will complain that you're ragging on a good game. It's your CAGcast, comment on what you want. If I want to hear people argue I'll watch PTI on ESPN.

PS This was the first time I actually decided to listen to one of the CAGcast's, and proceeded to listen to a few others after I was done. I'll definitely be looking forward to more in the future.

[Kayden]

=\

I didn't say they should play games they hate. I meant they should ask people that like them/have played them to do guest spots. Like a CAGs-eye-view.

And I didn't say they should argue. I just think it'd be a bit more intresting to have a more robust discusion beyond " 'sgoood. You should play." "Ya, its sauce'em." Different points of view != arguing.


I disagree with discussing games that you guys don't care about. Then you'll just be bashing the game and people will complain that you're ragging on a good game. It's your CAGcast, comment on what you want. If I want to hear people argue I'll watch PTI on ESPN.

PS This was the first time I actually decided to listen to one of the CAGcast's, and proceeded to listen to a few others after I was done. I'll definitely be looking forward to more in the future.

[zewone]

Thats part of what I was saying. You guys have no interest in certain genres/fields. This is the first one I've heard, but it left me with the impression that neither you or cheapy really give a hoot about RPGs or the totallity of PC games in general. Action/adventure/plaforming and FPS seems to be the bulk of your combined interests. Thats why I suggested the guest spots. You could throw out 5-10 minutes a week to a different CAG to both diversify the opinions on the show and to not only feed the community, but involve it. Can you imagine what it'd be like to tap epo's brain for 5 minutes? We'd need the rest of the week to just digest everything he said.

You guys are funny and it was a great start to my morning, but at the end I was just left feeling like the guy you were talking about that said you guys were a bit uninformative. I walked away knowing that you and Cheapy like shooters and platformers and rape your wives' hands in their sleep. "Games Cheapy and Wombat like" doesn't really enlighten the community of CAG as a whole. Infact, you spent most of your time talking about high profile games from highly saturated genres that most people have already played or have a strong opinion formed about them. Additionally, when you boil it down, you essentially say "if you liked the other games in the series, you'll like this one!" You don't really say what makes it so great beyond the fact that its better than the last game, which was totally awesome to start with!

I don't wanna sound like I'm endlessly bitching, I just think there are some areas that could be worked on to broaden appeal/usefulness of the podcast. You guys are pretty funny though.
Agreed.

[jakescape53]

nice job, looking forward to the big celebration next week.

[lordwow]

Just a few things:

- The comment about the sleeping wives... hah another classic Cheapy line.

- Wombat, I feel your pain about mice. I live in Boston, and even in our brand new apartments up here are infested. It's probably similar in NYC, but there are more mice than people up here. They're just everywhere. I hardly go a day without seeing one. I started using these little things you plug into the wall and click (I think they're called the Clicker or something), but they send out some high pitched noise that humans can't hear but scare away mice. Not sure how it would affect Zelda though. Either way, I live in a crappy building here now and I haven't seen or heard a single mouse yet with these bad boys.

- Advanced D&D for Intelvision was the bane of my exsistance growing up. My Dad used to have my brother and I play Intelevision instead of buying a NES, so I grew up playing Night Stalker and Advanced D&D instead of Mario. AD&D was incredibly tough and the purple blob still haunts me at night.

I love the podcast guys, I've been listening since #1 and you guys have improved and made this my favorite podcast (even more than TWiT which was the first podcast I cosistantly listened to). I hope you guys have another great 50 (and more).

Also, now that I can't listen to the podcast at work (hence why I'm listening at midnight) I find myself refreshing the forums all day haha.

[rustyrage]

dling now, will probally listen to it tomorrow.

[FriskyTanuki]

Very good show. I was surprised that the show seemed to end so abruptly since you guys were in such a good rhythm that you probably could've gone on even longer had you had more content lined up. It seems like Wombat still doesn't know that Insomniac's first game was an FPS when he was criticizing them for making Resistance before the next Ratchet and Clank. :lol: Congrats on getting to 50 shows. You've improved quite a bit over your first shows.

I do have to agree about your gaming tastes do alter the range of topics that you guys can cover since you don't care about MGS, most RPG's, and several other genres. While I'd like it if FFXII could be talked about and discussed. I'd rather it not be discussed if you'd just half-ass it just to say you did. It'd just be nice to not have it dismissed like it was some stupid game that nobody cares about instead of the Game of the Year candidate that FFXII is.

You guys just come off as a little condescending, even though I know you guys don't intend it that way, instead of just saying something like "Big news for RPG fans as Final Fantasy XII comes out this week. It's not my cup of tea, but I'm sure there are plenty of people listening that are rejoicing this week." Just some food for thought for you guys.

[cyber_ninja_monkey]

Congrats on the Big 50

[CheapyD]

You guys just come off as a little condescending, even though I know you guys don't intend it that way, instead of just saying something like "Big news for RPG fans as Final Fantasy XII comes out this week. It's not my cup of tea, but I'm sure there are plenty of people listening that are rejoicing this week." Just some food for thought for you guys. Good suggestion.

[Sn0brawler]

BAKATAKA

Wombat yelling that was hilarious, sounds like a little wombat war cry.

[gofishn]

Man, Wombat was on fire for this CAGcast. Cheapy, great job on the PS3 mini-previews and I'm glad you finally called out those bloggers posting the deals. I always suspected they were just stealing the stuff you found and passing it off on their own. They'd always suspiciously post them shortly after you would and sometimes even use similar terminology/dialect.

[BuggyG]

CAGcast 51 FTW!1!!onE!!! (cant wait)

great show once again

[gunm]

Good suggestion.

On the other hand, it is your show and we are listening to this because we either think it's entertaining, or we want to hear what you think about stuff, so even if you come off as "meh" on a certain genre or a particular game, that's probably ok...as long you talk about why you don't care for it or why you aren't into it (which I don't think you guys did this time around).

[qpid]

Another great podcast, thanks for making my drivetimes more entertaining!

[trip1eX]

Thats part of what I was saying. You guys have no interest in certain genres/fields. This is the first one I've heard, but it left me with the impression that neither you or cheapy really give a hoot about RPGs or the totallity of PC games in general. Action/adventure/plaforming and FPS seems to be the bulk of your combined interests. Thats why I suggested the guest spots. You could throw out 5-10 minutes a week to a different CAG to both diversify the opinions on the show and to not only feed the community, but involve it. Can you imagine what it'd be like to tap epo's brain for 5 minutes? We'd need the rest of the week to just digest everything he said.

You guys are funny and it was a great start to my morning, but at the end I was just left feeling like the guy you were talking about that said you guys were a bit uninformative. I walked away knowing that you and Cheapy like shooters and platformers and rape your wives' hands in their sleep. "Games Cheapy and Wombat like" doesn't really enlighten the community of CAG as a whole. Infact, you spent most of your time talking about high profile games from highly saturated genres that most people have already played or have a strong opinion formed about them. Additionally, when you boil it down, you essentially say "if you liked the other games in the series, you'll like this one!" You don't really say what makes it so great beyond the fact that its better than the last game, which was totally awesome to start with!

I don't wanna sound like I'm endlessly bitching, I just think there are some areas that could be worked on to broaden appeal/usefulness of the podcast. You guys are pretty funny though.

Hey you can't be everything everybody. The solution is to not listen to them for pcgaming advice. :) I listen for the Q&A and reports on 360 and other console games and about Japan and the website etc.

I know they are ignorant of pcgaming, but that's ok. Actually kind of funny when they talk about pcgaming as if it's this 'scary' thing in the closet.

So here's hoping you don't try and stretch yourselves thin in the gaming dept. I look at is as the Dynamic Duo merely reporting on their gaming time. Not going out of their way to play every game under the sun just to get in 5 minutes about said game.

[trip1eX]

30 minutes in and it's a good show so far... but as far as Wombat's semi rant about there not being a good platformer at launch... I'm glad there's not. The genre's been done to death and it's simply not fun anymore.

Yeah good thing they threw in a genre that's not tired like a first person shooter. ;)

[MysteryMan2333]

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I didn't say they should play games they hate. I meant they should ask people that like them/have played them to do guest spots. Like a CAGs-eye-view.

And I didn't say they should argue. I just think it'd be a bit more intresting to have a more robust discusion beyond " 'sgoood. You should play." "Ya, its sauce'em." Different points of view != arguing.

Technically, I didn't say games they hate either. I said don't care about, which is obviously very different. As for arguing, you didn't mention that, but it tends to happen when two people have very different opinions that they feel passionately about. Perhaps arguing was a bad word; debate would have been better probably. In any case, I'm not sure why people listen to the show, but personally the game 'reviews' aren't a big deal to me. Sure, it's nice to hear someone's opinion on a game, but you probably already know whether you are going to like FFXII or not. The fact that CheapyD or Wombat said that don't care about the game, didn't make me think 'Gee, I bet that game sucks now'. So I'm not sure if having someone else to come on the show to talk about the game, which they won't care about, will really help the show. Just my opinion though...

[RudyPants]

I'm glad to see that they talk about what they like, and their PC ignorance is something I share with them. That's part of why I like the show is because they stick to things that I'm interested in. Plus, they basically convinced me to buy a 360 over the course of their past 50 episodes, and it's the best purchase I've made since my N64.

Thanks Cheapy and Wombat for making gaming fun to play and listen to.

[ramatut4001]

Cagcast rules. My girlfriend likes to hear Zelda's valuable input to the show. So uh, yeah, you've got that going for you.

[j-fever]

Great CAGcast Cheepy and Wombat.

As per you comment concerning Insomniac making a FPS game. I strongly suspect the reason for this, is that Insomniac was FORCED to make a FPS by Sony to try and tap into the "US Hard Core" game market. Sony KNOWS their console is pricey and they feel the US Hard Core gamers only care about FPS games. Too bad, since many more creative games are probalby being cancelled by Sony.

[FriskyTanuki]

On the other hand, it is your show and we are listening to this because we either think it's entertaining, or we want to hear what you think about stuff, so even if you come off as "meh" on a certain genre or a particular game, that's probably ok...as long you talk about why you don't care for it or why you aren't into it (which I don't think you guys did this time around).
Then again, they've been willing and able to listen to suggestions and feedback on how to make the show even better since day one. Why act like snobs and ignore the feedback that they get. It's not just their show, it's CAG's show. We're all apart of CAG and we like having our voices heard and taken into consideration.

Great CAGcast Cheepy and Wombat.

As per you comment concerning Insomniac making a FPS game. I strongly suspect the reason for this, is that Insomniac was FORCED to make a FPS by Sony to try and tap into the "US Hard Core" game market. Sony KNOWS their console is pricey and they feel the US Hard Core gamers only care about FPS games. Too bad, since many more creative games are probalby being cancelled by Sony.
I highly doubt that, as Sony does not own Insomniac and have very little say in what they do. Insomniac decided to make the game, get over it. They weren't forced into it.

As for Sony cancelling creative games, that's also doubtful as they've got a ton of game project going on for the PS3, around 100 to be exact. They're very receptive in publishing games for the PS3 right now and I don't see much proof that says that they're not.

[CantB76]

Congrats on 50 guys, muskrat you kill me.

[Autumn Star]

Awwww crap.
Wombat as the Green Latern?
God help us all.

[DaDroopDogg]

Great show as always guys.

[madportagee]

Great show, one of the best if not the best one that I have listened to. The only small complaint is that, if one of you are interested in a game, but not the other you seem to cut the other one off. This episode the main time i noticed that was when cheapy was about to talk about Fear for the 360 and Wombat basically said "I'm not interested about it" and then moved right on. Cheapy actually seemed like he wanted to talk about it some.

Besides that, great coverage on everything else, as for lack of PC games that some people have been mentioning it is a little sad, but PC games are barely mentioned on this forum anyway and it doesnt seem like they are struggling for content or time.

I also love Cheapy and Wombat's hands on impressions of games, especially the Wii and PS3. All the opinions are honest and it isnt anything like most videogame sites that most of the time will not say anything negative about a game in an early version. Yet cheapy and wombat do, but have reasons and leave optimism towards the games still.

Overall Great Show

[MadFlava]

Also ban dormer if he doesn't give Cag credit again.

Yeah ban this Dan Dormer guy. I did check out his 1UP page and he's erased all the blogs posts with stolen CAG deals. If your not going to ban him, at least post his username so we can drive him off CAG.

[Reality's Fringe]

Phoenix Wright Tip: You can say "Objection" or "Hold it" in the first one too (not just Justice for All). You have to hold down the "Y" button before you say it into the mic, though.

[1modernboy]

Happy 50th, Cheapy and Wombat! Once again, this episode delivered. I’m a little troubled about other listeners’ concern with your gastro-intestinal goings-on, though. The fact that you can do an entire television interview without bustin’ out a mega-belch has no bearing on what you do during an edition of the CAGcast. The podcast is your home and you’re free to behave in whatever manner you feel appropriate. It’s like how you’d never drop trou and lounge around in your boxers and a wifebeater at work, but you’re more than entitled to do so in your own apartment. It’s apples to oranges.

[rabbitt]

Good 50th guys. It did run a little long, however. I'd keep the length around 60 min. That was perfect for me, and I'm sure an hour is convenient for many other CAGcast fans.

[Brian234]

I've started doing something with the podcasts which make them shorter and more entertaining. I time-compress them to about 65% of original speed. It drops this podcast to less than 50 minutes.

The pitch of the voices remains the same, but the talking is considerably faster which makes it a little funny and still very listenable at the same time.

Brian

[Sarang01]

That reminded me of something they forgot to mention in the "New Releases" section as well: http://www.lrm2007.com/

What the hell kind of journalism is this anyway?

I'm a RR fan and don't find the mocking of it funny. I REALLY wanted to hear what Cheapy thinks of RR7.

[figcoinc]

Cheapy D!!! I didn't get my automated birthday message!! My birthday was this past Nov. 4th!! I'm a sad sad cheap gamer...I wanted to be a cool kid and have one too!!!



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