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xghostsniperx
11-20-2006, 10:39 PM
I have two groups of friends in my high school.

Group 1 is my "main" group of friends who only play Madden or don't play video games at all. Their weekend consists of playing football on Friday, getting drunk on Saturday, and watching football on Sunday. We'll call them the casual gamers.

Group 2 is a group of gamers who I won't call hardcore gamers, but they're gamers. They're mainly into Halo 2 and World of Warcraft--the accessible gamers.

Well, I decided to invite them all over to hang out and play Wii/Xbox 360. I had the accessible gamers over on Sunday and the casual gamers over on Monday. Keep in mind neither of them had tried either console in the past.

Sunday was way different than I expected. Group 2 came over, all hyped about playing the Wii and never said a word about Gears of War. Inspecting and messing around with the console, they were really pumped to start the Wii up. But when they put in Wii Sports, they were a little less than enthralled. They weren't into the controls and using the Wiimote. One of them said, "I workout after school because I don't want to get fat. I play games and I just want to sit down and relax". No biggy. They decided to try out Excite Truck and Zelda. Even though they were sitting in chairs, they still weren't into it. So they decided to try Gears of War. They were so impressed with it that we played online for about four hours, and some asked to stay longer (I had homework to finish up though).

Monday was exactly as I expected it. Everyone wanted to try out Gears of War. Each of them picked it up and even though they loved the chainsaw animation and the blood, they thought the game was just too hard. They seemed to really like the graphics, but they just couldn't get the hang of it. Cautiously, they turned on the Wii and fumbled the remotes awkwardly when picking the sport they wanted to play in Wii Sports. They eventually decided on Tennis. After awhile, all of them got the hang of it and didn't even want to change sports. After some coaxing, I got them to try out bowling and eventually boxing, and each had them more hyped than the last. While they weren't into golf, they loved baseball and bowling the most. After trying Excite Truck, they were hooked. They really liked how it was like a wheel and the simplicity of it. Two of the guys said they would buy a Wii today if they could get one.

So I think Nintendo has done it. At least in my experience, they've reached out to non-gamers and found what they like. I think that some of the more regular or accessible gamers still want their 360, however. They want online play and shiny graphics with all that tactical shooting and blood and gore they can get.

I just find it funny that none of them said a word about PS3. No one asked if I had one.

Hope you guys find it interesting.

epobirs
11-20-2006, 10:54 PM
So the Wii market is weekend drunks?

xghostsniperx
11-20-2006, 11:31 PM
Yea, obviously you understood the point of my post.

Xevious
11-20-2006, 11:46 PM
Its a nice story. It won't apply to everyone though.

Graystone
11-21-2006, 12:07 AM
I'm not sure if I get the point.

Roufuss
11-21-2006, 12:12 AM
I'm not sure if I get the point.

Just yet another post about how the Wii is so great for non hardcore games and the 360 sucks, or isn't as fun for everyone.

OP, the 360 is more than just "shiny graphics with tactical shooting and gore"... way to show off your bias in that last paragraph. I guess I missed that part of Viva Pinata and Tony Hawk?

We get it, Wii is so great for everyone, 360 is ok, but PS3 just sucks, definitely, because a bunch of high school drunks didn't mention it.

This experiment is also flawed since you used a ton of games for the Wii, if you count each Wii Sports game as it's own game, plus Excite Truck plus Zelda. For 360, you only just used Gears of War. It's obvious the group who was into Halo 2 would be into GoW.

paz9x
11-21-2006, 12:23 AM
im tryign to figure out how he had a Wii on saturday and sunday? i know the saturday gaming wasnt held after the midnight release.

i call bs, nice try though, youll gettem next year.

xghostsniperx
11-21-2006, 08:26 AM
im tryign to figure out how he had a Wii on saturday and sunday? i know the saturday gaming wasnt held after the midnight release.

i call bs, nice try though, youll gettem next year.

I'm trying to figure out where the hell you saw that I played the Wii on Saturday. I was at Wal-Mart, 25th out of 29 for it until midnight. I didn't even bother to open it up until Sunday morning after I slept.

Overall, I really wasn't trying to express a bias. I love my 360 and I'm eventually buying a PS3 if the price eventually comes down. I just found it funny no one asked about PS3.

Brak
11-21-2006, 09:06 AM
Mmm. Bias.

botticus
11-21-2006, 09:31 AM
It's biased that all his gamer friends thought the Wii was lame and wanted to play Gears? You guys are funny.

The Mana Knight
11-21-2006, 09:35 AM
Overall, I really wasn't trying to express a bias. I love my 360 and I'm eventually buying a PS3 if the price eventually comes down. I just found it funny no one asked about PS3.Depends where you are, because the PS3 is currently the most wanted gaming console by boys for Christmas, according to Reuters.

I agree with Roufuss that this is a flawed experiment.

BustaUppa
11-21-2006, 11:00 AM
It's biased that all his gamer friends thought the Wii was lame and wanted to play Gears? You guys are funny.Yeah I agree, I think people are reading too much of an agenda into the first post. I mean the guy does OWN both consoles. And of course it's flawed science, that's why "experiment" is in quotes in the thread title.

Besides, I think you can root for Nintendo without getting into "bias" territory. Heck, I'm rooting for nintendo, but I'll actually be getting a 360 before I get a Wii.

rabbitt
11-21-2006, 11:51 AM
The group that gravitated towards the Wii in his 'experiment' is the same group that called Nintendo's last console a QueerCube and GayBox.

Puffa469
11-21-2006, 01:01 PM
Jeez, the guys posts his different friends reactions to the Wii and the 360 and everyone is jumping down his throat claiming bias? :roll: Some people are just sooo ready to attack. Its getting to be like walking thru tiger infested jungle around here. lol

epobirs
11-21-2006, 02:53 PM
Yea, obviously you understood the point of my post.

Look at what you wrote. You identified your 'casual gamer' group as typically getting drunk on Saturday. A group also identified as high school students and resumably minors. So yeah, I somehow doubt this is a something Nintendo would view as a demographic win.

epobirs
11-21-2006, 02:57 PM
The group that gravitated towards the Wii in his 'experiment' is the same group that called Nintendo's last console a QueerCube and GayBox.

It's pretty common for there to be a period of severe anti-gay antagonism before an individual finally comes out of the closet. Looks like OP found the trigger point for these young 'confirmed bachelors.'

mercilessming
11-22-2006, 07:53 AM
Jeez, the guys posts his different friends reactions to the Wii and the 360 and everyone is jumping down his throat claiming bias? :roll: Some people are just sooo ready to attack. Its getting to be like walking thru tiger infested jungle around here. lol


This is so true!

radjago
11-22-2006, 08:17 AM
So you got a bunch of guys who like sports to get excited about playing a simple sports game? And you got gamers who are used to deep experiences to scoff at the same thing?

daphatty
11-22-2006, 08:21 AM
I think you guys, yes even you Roufuss, need to get the stick out of your butt. Does every thread HAVE to be about a bias or fanboy-ism? :roll:

I liked the story and particularly enjoyed the fact that the Wii-heads enjoyed the 360 and vice-versa. Thank you for this post ghostsniper.

BlaqRenaissance
11-22-2006, 08:29 AM
Depends where you are, because the PS3 is currently the most wanted gaming console by boys for Christmas, according to Reuters.

I agree with Roufuss that this is a flawed experiment.

Who does Reuters poll? Every survey/experiment has some % of error.

Brak
11-22-2006, 09:44 AM
It's biased that all his gamer friends thought the Wii was lame and wanted to play Gears? You guys are funny.
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So you got a bunch of guys who like sports to get excited about playing a simple sports game? And you got gamers who are used to deep experiences to scoff at the same thing?

drone8888
11-22-2006, 10:20 AM
Yeah, I got Gears last Wednesday, and had a big party on Saturday at my place. Everyone LOVED GoW, and even more so online. These guys are all about DotA and WoW, as was I,.... so this was kind of a suprise. First they were impressed by the graphics... then blown away by the brutal gameplay. They refused to stop playing, until one turd who showed up said to put in Halo. :(

I was a bit saddened by that, and then by them going from that, back to Marvel vs Capcom 2, then over to Soul Calibur 3.

Sons of bitches!!

Well, I am in a raffle at my BX to purchase a Wii this Saturday, and I refuse to even enter the raffle for a PS3, which is on the same day. From watching how my co-workers and friends play games, I already know that to most of them, the Wii will be a gimmick. They talk about the PS3 as a "bargain" considering "all you get". :(

Point is, MY opinion is the only one that matters, and not that of the public. The PS3 has yet to tempt me. It looks like Spiderman's laptop, if he had one, the games out now aren't that great, the controller is so light I'm afraid my sausage wrangling mitts would snap it in 2, and the price is just ludicrous. Not to mention no game, no BluRay pack-in, etc. The Wii doesn't really have any great multiplayer games, for parties and such yet, and the nunchucks with Wii-motes will cost $75 alone to play with friends.

I'm gonna get me a Wii for Metroid, Zelda, Mario, etc.., but not because of the gimmicks or my friends. It's just for me :)

OH and btw, once your friends are out of highschool, they will be playing video games just like you. It's only a status thing in most places, and even though gaming has been around for about 20 years now, it's still slowly becoming acceptable. Give them a call in 5 years, and I bet you they're playing Madden online, or some kind of game other than just RL football.

Enjoy your consoles, and have a Happy Thanksgiving!!!


ps. I think I played Halo online with you a few weeks ago. Name was Ghostsniper... not sure though. Shoot me a friend invite if you want :)

jawman311
11-22-2006, 08:35 PM
good post op. dont listen to the douches that understand the reason you posted