Compusa: Maxtor 160 Gig HD $80, perfect for PS2/HDLoader - in store only?

[kev]

I know the Hdloader only reads up to 120 gigs but this drive is cheaper than any 120 gig I've found on pricewatch.

160 gigs, 7200 RPM,8 MB cache (yay!) = $80.

There's no rebate, just $80 out the door. This will work in a PS2 according to http://ps2drives.x-pec.com/?p=list.

From what I can tell this is NOT offered online as I looked everywhere. I don't know if any other stores will price match this either but I'm going to check at Best Buy when I go today since it's closer than CompUSA.

[Arakias]

Compusa advertises it as Generic brand, so I doubt you could get it pricematched.
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=300018&ref=cj&pfp=cj

[Gosha]

How much are they selling 120gb drives for?

[flizmo007]

The actual ad has it as a Maxtor. You shouldnt have a problem price matching it with an ad. I stole this link from Slickdeals, which shows a pic of the ad.... http://ksg.freesites.ws/compusa8.jpg

[Gosha]

Awsome. I know my Circuit City doesn't have Maxtor drives, but Staples and Best Buy do. Does Staples pricematch?

[theenforcer1]

Yeah....actually I think my staples has 110% pricematch... :)

[Shadows916]

actully, i picked up a 120gig hd off pricewatch.com for 55, a seagate (not some genaric no name)

[js1]

I know the Hdloader only reads up to 120 gigs but this drive is cheaper than any 120 gig I've found on pricewatch.

160 gigs, 7200 RPM,8 MB cache (yay!) = $80.

There's no rebate, just $80 out the door. This will work in a PS2 according to http://ps2drives.x-pec.com/?p=list.

From what I can tell this is NOT offered online as I looked everywhere. I don't know if any other stores will price match this either but I'm going to check at Best Buy when I go today since it's closer than CompUSA.

the model # does not match the one on the ps2 hard drive site..

[kev]

The 250 gig model of the L01P line (which is the one in the ad) is listed on the site as working/fitting.

If the 160 of the other model fits and the 250 of this model fit, and every other Maxtor has worked so far, we should be fine. Thanks for pointing that out though.

I'm buying one today regardless. If it doesn't work in my PS2 it is a great PC drive.

[Gnomeslayer]

How do you know which harddrives work for the ps2/hdloader?

[kev]

Go to the site in my first post.

[HYDE]

Aw crap - just last night I placed an order for a Maxtor 120gb drive after doing my research on PS2 compatability. I ran across that same site Kev. However, now this deal pops up, and I basically paid $10 more for 40gigs less -arg. What's worse is I have the same 120gb Maxtor in my PC already that I could of used for the PS2 and replaced it with this 160gb.

[optimolife]

HYDE if you just ordered last night then it obviously wasn't sent out yet so you can call early tomorrow morning and have them cancel the order, as easy as that.

[kev]

FYI, Staples will price match, I just got my drive, yay.

[argyle]

How long is this sale good for? We don't have a CompUSA here in town, but there's one just north of here where my inlaws live. I'll be going there next weekend - any chance it will still be good then?

[HYDE]

Optimolife - the order is with newegg and is in step 2 - which means my order has been charged and there are no changes allowed. T'is ok. I may pick up the drive anyway given it's price.

[pinoy530]

Optimolife - the order is with newegg and is in step 2 - which means my order has been charged and there are no changes allowed. T'is ok. I may pick up the drive anyway given it's price.

You might still be able to return it and have no restocking fee. Newegg has a great customer track record, maybe you should try calling them and see what they can do.

[optimolife]

Kev, thanks for posting this BTW. I had been looking for a hard drive deal for my HDLoader coming later this week, so this was just in time and a GREAT deal at that. thanks again!!!!

[zewone]

How long is this sale good for? We don't have a CompUSA here in town, but there's one just north of here where my inlaws live. I'll be going there next weekend - any chance it will still be good then?

The sale should be good up until next sundays ad.

[Gosha]

I went to staples and pricematched. The guy there didn't give me the 10% extra off, but I didn't complain. Saved me a half hour trip to the nearest CompUSA.

The guy at Staples was freakign out, he also kept the printout I had, I think he was going to buy one later.

[kev]

I didn't get the 110% either (I think you get that when you buy it at full and then the price drops) but at 50 cents a gig for a really fast drive I can't complain.

Now I just have to wait for my HDloader to arrive. The only reason I don't use my PS2 is that the load times annoy me, I look forward to helping that.

[Murcielago77]

how much do they originally cost?

EDIT:
NM I found the price. 150

[unbongwah]

How long is this sale good for? We don't have a CompUSA here in town, but there's one just north of here where my inlaws live. I'll be going there next weekend - any chance it will still be good then?

Ad is good until the end of the week (July 3), IIRC. Of course, the chances of any of them being left by then is pretty negligible. I had to hit two CompUSAs yesterday afternooon to find even one HDD...

[swetooth9]

if the hdloader thing only reads up to 120 gig drives...then why is this 160 gig one "perfect for hdloader"? am i missing something? :?

[kev]

Because it fits/works/is fast/has a great cache/is cheaper than most 120s anyway.

You can't find the maxtor 120 gig for less than $76 shipped on Pricewatch unless you are willing to go with some less than reputable dealers.

[pinoy530]

if the hdloader thing only reads up to 120 gig drives...then why is this 160 gig one "perfect for hdloader"? am i missing something? :?

Actually, it only reads up to 137 gbs. Its like this for computers too. Windows XP only sees the first 137 gbs unless you download a patch, but since you cant dl anything for the ps2, you're stuck with 137 max.

[swetooth9]

Ooo...so the 160 gig drives actually WORK w/ the ps2, but you can only USE the first 120-137 gigs, right? did i get that right?

[swetooth9]

^ ?

[Sheik Rattle Enroll]

I'd actually reccommend a samsung drive, they're much quieter, faster, and cooler running than the maxtors. You can pick up an 80 gig SP0802N from newegg for $65.

[kev]

Ooo...so the 160 gig drives actually WORK w/ the ps2, but you can only USE the first 120-137 gigs, right? did i get that right?

Exactly. The HDloader just sees it as 120 gigs.

[yogi99]

Thanks for the deal. Kev can you verify that this model of 160 GB Maxtor hdd works with hdloader? It would be great if you can post on that site you linked also. Thanks.

[swetooth9]

are you able to delete games that you've loaded to the hard drive? like, if i loaded a game and didnt like it a month later, could i delete it so i had more space for another game?

[fraeone]

Its like this for computers too. Windows XP only sees the first 137 gbs unless you download a patch, but since you cant dl anything for the ps2, you're stuck with 137 max.

It has nothing to do with a patch. FAT16 and FAT32 (the 'classic' windows file systems) do not support LBA (Large Block Addressing). However, you don't need to download a patch, just format the drive NTFS (current windows file system).

As for the PS2, it is indeed a hardware limitation.

For what it's worth, HD Loader is beta quality right now. Lots of games are on the "do not work" list, including ALL DVD9 games (Xenosaga, Norrath, MGS2: Substance, the forthcoming GTA:SA etc).

I would seriously recommend waiting for HD Loader v2.

[maxgle]

how do you know what version is your PS2?
my is 350001.........

[kev]

Thanks for the deal. Kev can you verify that this model of 160 GB Maxtor hdd works with hdloader? It would be great if you can post on that site you linked also. Thanks.

As soon as my HDloader comes in the mail you bet :)

[guyver2077]

are you able to delete games that you've loaded to the hard drive? like, if i loaded a game and didnt like it a month later, could i delete it so i had more space for another game?


yea you can very simple gui....its great

[yogi99]

Got my hdd at CompUSA for $79.99 + tax. Great deal. I'll try it with hdloader when I have a chance. Thanks Kev.

[swetooth9]

thanks for the tip kev, i got mine price matched at bb for 72.99+tax :D

now i just got to get the hdloader :(

will the hd loader have instructions to tell how to work w/ the harddrive or do u have to figure it out yourself or will it be w/ instructions in the harddrive?

im kind of a n00b to this technology stuff :lol:

any help would be GREATLY APPECIATED :D ;)

[epobirs]

Its like this for computers too. Windows XP only sees the first 137 gbs unless you download a patch, but since you cant dl anything for the ps2, you're stuck with 137 max.

It has nothing to do with a patch. FAT16 and FAT32 (the 'classic' windows file systems) do not support LBA (Large Block Addressing). However, you don't need to download a patch, just format the drive NTFS (current windows file system).

As for the PS2, it is indeed a hardware limitation.

For what it's worth, HD Loader is beta quality right now. Lots of games are on the "do not work" list, including ALL DVD9 games (Xenosaga, Norrath, MGS2: Substance, the forthcoming GTA:SA etc).

I would seriously recommend waiting for HD Loader v2.

This isn't accurate either. The distinction is ATA133 support. You can't create partitions in NTFS larger than the drive size supported at the hardware level. On a system that only supports ATA100 and earlier even multiple partitions will be limited to 137 GB cumulatively. Maxtor created the ATA133 spec to go beyond the performance and capacity limits of ATA100. Intel wanted to push SATA and thus held off putting ATA133 in their chipsets. This is why Maxtor bundled ATA133 PCI controller boards with their drives for a while.

The 'patch' is actually an updated driver for systems that had ATA133 hardware but lacked driver support at ship time. The PS2 has ATA100 hardware and there is no way around that in software. Considering that most PS2 games come nowhere near the full capacity of a DVD-5 disc 120GB is more than sufficient to have a massive library installed.

FAT32 stops well short of the ATA100 limit. By Microsoft's own admission you don't want to create FAT32 partitions larger than 32GB or you run the risk of a variety of failures and misbehaviors.

I strongly suspect the creators of HDLoader will offer an upgrade deal for early adopters. The convenience of the current product is not greatly affected by the quite short list of incompatible games. The DVD-9 titles number less than a dozen to date.

[fraeone]

This isn't accurate either. The distinction is ATA133 support. You can't create partitions in NTFS larger than the drive size supported at the hardware level. On a system that only supports ATA100 and earlier even multiple partitions will be limited to 137 GB cumulatively. Maxtor created the ATA133 spec to go beyond the performance and capacity limits of ATA100.

That's incorrect. Maxtor cooked up ATA133 to put a new sticker on their boxes. It has been shown that it doesn't increase performance, or do anything else notable, which is why many other companies still haven't bothered. My motherboard is ATA100, and I'm running a 160GB drive on it just fine formatted NTFS. In fact, if you go to Western Digital's page, their current 250GB offering is ATA100.


Back to the topic:

To install your HD/format it:

1. jumper the hard drive to MASTER
2. plug ps2 network adapter into back of hard drive
3. plug network adapter / hard drive combo into back of ps2 (must remove a small door first)
4. put hd loader disc in your ps2 and boot.
5. it will ask to format your hdd, agree to.
6. you're ready to go

[swetooth9]

can some1 please answer my last post? thanks :D

[epobirs]

This isn't accurate either. The distinction is ATA133 support. You can't create partitions in NTFS larger than the drive size supported at the hardware level. On a system that only supports ATA100 and earlier even multiple partitions will be limited to 137 GB cumulatively. Maxtor created the ATA133 spec to go beyond the performance and capacity limits of ATA100.

That's incorrect. Maxtor cooked up ATA133 to put a new sticker on their boxes. It has been shown that it doesn't increase performance, or do anything else notable, which is why many other companies still haven't bothered. My motherboard is ATA100, and I'm running a 160GB drive on it just fine formatted NTFS. In fact, if you go to Western Digital's page, their current 250GB offering is ATA100.



Yes, the cumulative part is wrong. I realized that a bit later but hadn't gone back to correct it.

ATA133 is not just a sticker. Keep in mind there are many performance bottlenecks in a hard drive besides the interface. The latest ATA and SCSI specs are always well ahead of the actual read channel performance. The drive industry takes time to fully exploit new interfaces. In the same respect there are no drives that can take full advantage of the throughput offered by SATA, yet higher performance versions are already in development. Why do you suppose that is?

This is nothing new. When ATA-66 appeared drive performance was nowhere near that mark but it was soon going to exceed what ATA-33 offered. Thus the new interface. Also, single drive performance is not the sole determinant of an interface's value. Interleaved drives using RAID can greatly exceed single drive throughput. This is why most early motherboard with SATA support were arranged to use ot primarily for a two-drive RAID while the boot drive continued to live on the legacy ATA channels.

[yogi99]

My computer's motherboard can only support up to ATA100. Can this Maxtor 160 GB ATA133 hard drive be used on my motherboard, that is can this hard drive operate at ATA100 or lower speed? Thanks.

[yogi99]

Can someone tell me how pricematch works? I payed for this hard drive for $79.99 + tax at CompUSA. So how do I get pricematch at Staples or BestBuy? Which store give the highest percentage for pricematch? Do I just walk into Staples and pick up this hard drive and show the cashier the CompUSA ads and I can get 10% off the CompUSA ads price? Thanks.

[epobirs]

My computer's motherboard can only support up to ATA100. Can this Maxtor 160 GB ATA133 hard drive be used on my motherboard, that is can this hard drive operate at ATA100 or lower speed? Thanks.

Yes, all ATA drives gracefully degrade, which means fall back to the highest level supported by the controller. Technically, you could hook it up on an ancient ATA-16 system but it would be an utter waste and more than a little hassle dealing with the partitioning.

[epobirs]

This isn't accurate either. The distinction is ATA133 support. You can't create partitions in NTFS larger than the drive size supported at the hardware level. On a system that only supports ATA100 and earlier even multiple partitions will be limited to 137 GB cumulatively. Maxtor created the ATA133 spec to go beyond the performance and capacity limits of ATA100.

That's incorrect. Maxtor cooked up ATA133 to put a new sticker on their boxes. It has been shown that it doesn't increase performance, or do anything else notable, which is why many other companies still haven't bothered. My motherboard is ATA100, and I'm running a 160GB drive on it just fine formatted NTFS. In fact, if you go to Western Digital's page, their current 250GB offering is ATA100.


Are you running as a single partition? Exceeding the addressing limits of ATA100 was part of the motivation for ATA133.

Western Digital doesn't do ATA100 because they drank the Intel Kool-Ade and went straight to SATA. This is costing them sales among people who build their systems and in the ATA133 RAID sector which still enjoys a price advantage over SATA. A lot of these same people already avoid WD like the plague due to very high numbers of defective drives in the 90's. This may no longer be te case. All of my WD drives are fine but a lot of people still hold a grudge

[jkam]

[quote]

Back to the topic:

To install your HD/format it:

1. jumper the hard drive to MASTER
2. plug ps2 network adapter into back of hard drive
3. plug network adapter / hard drive combo into back of ps2 (must remove a small door first)
4. put hd loader disc in your ps2 and boot.
5. it will ask to format your hdd, agree to.
6. you're ready to go

I just got a hard drive and a network adapter. Just wondering....since I never had a network adapter to begin with do I have to run a setup for that prior to hooking up the hard drive to it?

[js1]

[quote]

Back to the topic:

To install your HD/format it:

1. jumper the hard drive to MASTER
2. plug ps2 network adapter into back of hard drive
3. plug network adapter / hard drive combo into back of ps2 (must remove a small door first)
4. put hd loader disc in your ps2 and boot.
5. it will ask to format your hdd, agree to.
6. you're ready to go

I just got a hard drive and a network adapter. Just wondering....since I never had a network adapter to begin with do I have to run a setup for that prior to hooking up the hard drive to it?

I don't believe you need to run any set up for the NA, since it is just being used to connect the hard drive to the ps2.

[js1]

I'd actually reccommend a samsung drive, they're much quieter, faster, and cooler running than the maxtors. You can pick up an 80 gig SP0802N from newegg for $65.

Thanks! That's what I picked up, good price, free shipping.. :D

[jkam]

I'd actually reccommend a samsung drive, they're much quieter, faster, and cooler running than the maxtors. You can pick up an 80 gig SP0802N from newegg for $65.

Thanks! That's what I picked up, good price, free shipping.. :D

Yeah that is the one I grabbed too. Thanks.

[TiKi2]

So where did you guys get your HDloader programs from???

[jkam]

I just got mine off of ebay from someone selling them buy it now for $29.70 (36.65 w/shipping) He had about 60 left. Might be able to get it slightly cheaper but it was easier for me since I had some paypal money to play with.

[zewone]

So where did you guys get your HDloader programs from???

consolesource.com

[Sarang01]

Are you running as a single partition? Exceeding the addressing limits of ATA100 was part of the motivation for ATA133.

Western Digital doesn't do ATA100 because they drank the Intel Kool-Ade and went straight to SATA. This is costing them sales among people who build their systems and in the ATA133 RAID sector which still enjoys a price advantage over SATA. A lot of these same people already avoid WD like the plague due to very high numbers of defective drives in the 90's. This may no longer be te case. All of my WD drives are fine but a lot of people still hold a grudge[/quote]

I hold a grudge because the ONLY HDD that I remember breaking down around here was a WD. I especially resent this because I'm gonna have to pay thousands of dollars to get a shitload of my material OFF the HDD. :x

[js1]

I just got mine off of ebay from someone selling them buy it now for $29.70 (36.65 w/shipping) He had about 60 left. Might be able to get it slightly cheaper but it was easier for me since I had some paypal money to play with.

I got mine off of ebay also!, but a diffrent seller, he wanted 29.25+4.75 S/H... I also got a brand new ps2 NA model(35%off)+ the double pack of sony memory cards(60%off)

[droidekaspam]

So where did you guys get your HDloader programs from???

consolesource.com

I just placed an order with them. I hope they're reliable. How long did it take to ship and get it?

[optimolife]

Droide your order will be queued for a few days, don't worry it will ship eventually, you should have it close to within the 5 day range if you chose express shipping. I just got mine after 5 days.


BTW Anyone know if theres anyway to connect an SATA HDD to the IDE interface on the ps2 network adapter? I tried finding some sort of adapter but was unsuccessful.....thanks in advance

[lurknomore]

Consolesource.com is as good as it gets. They are very reliable and have great support. No worries. The only concern with such a hot item is that their supply may be really bombarded by the long queue of people eager to get their hands on this puppy.

[droidekaspam]

Thanks for info on consolesource. I was a little worried because they're in Canada. And I've been in queue for over 24 hours (Their websites says ships in 24). I'm a little eager to test the hdloader out. I picked up the 160GB HDD from Compusa yesterday in preparation for it.

[yogi99]

I went to Staples for a price match plus 10% off and I got this hard drive for $79.01. This is great!

[PrinceNeil]

I actuallly picked up 2 160gb's at compusa and a PS2 Online Pack at FYE for $119.99 after a $30 rebate. I still have a ton of FYE store credits that I need to use since the ink on the receipt is starting to fade.

[guyver2077]

so guys can you confirm if these hd's will work infact with hdloader.. i need to get a new hd for it..also can ff11 still be installed on it?? or will it only work with the 40gb...

and is there a link to buy from cuz im too lazy to go to a damn store..

[zewone]

FFXI works only on official HDD

[droidekaspam]

so guys can you confirm if these hd's will work infact with hdloader.. i need to get a new hd for it..also can ff11 still be installed on it?? or will it only work with the 40gb...

and is there a link to buy from cuz im too lazy to go to a damn store..

Here's a list that has been going on for HD compatibility.
http://ps2drives.x-pec.com/?p=list.

The compusa retail boxed Maxtor HD should be model no. L01P160. At least that's the retail version I got. 160GB, 7200RPM, 8MB Cache, Ultra ATA/133.

[guyver2077]

yea thx i saw list but does anyone know where to get one on that list at a deal price....comp usa kinda far and im positive they run out of stock by now

[droidekaspam]

This is the best deal I know of this week. Maybe something will pop up next week. You can check store inventory at compusa.com

[guyver2077]

and does the 160 work fine??

[droidekaspam]

I haven't got my HDLoader yet, but from the list and this thread, it looks like it should be good. You can always return it or resell it on eBay.

I don't know your zip, but here's an inventory list for zip 33172, Miami, FL.
http://www.compusa.com/products/availability.asp?ref=cj,cj&product_code=300018&sto res=1&pfp=external&zip=33172

EDIT: Looks like you'll have to copy and paste the link.

[guyver2077]

damn kool thanks... the one closest too me says in stock...

its a mission to go to comp usa but i just might go...its $80 right?

[droidekaspam]

Yup $80

[jkam]

damn kool thanks... the one closest too me says in stock...

its a mission to go to comp usa but i just might go...its $80 right?

I'd actually reccommend a samsung drive, they're much quieter, faster, and cooler running than the maxtors. You can pick up an 80 gig SP0802N from newegg for $65.

If you don't want to go to CompUSA you could grab this 80 gig drive. I ordered one yesterday. Not as much storage but a little cheaper. No tax in some areas although I got hit with it and free shipping. It is on the compatibility list as well.

LINK (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=22-152-010&depa=0)

Can't wait until all my stuff arrives!

[notoriousxbox]

Same I ordered that Samsung drive yesterday morning and this morning I got my tracking number for the fed ex package. Alot faster than I thought figuring 24-48 hours before it ships.

My shipment from consolesource.com should be here soon. Hopefully by Sat everything will be here.

[guyver2077]

well i went to compusa but they were all out....but i did get the last one at bestbuy and did a pricematch....so im happy i got it......

now i jsut need to decide what to do since the loader only reads up to 120. if my current 120 hd in my computer works with the loader (western digital i think) can i clone my current hd onto the 160 and use the 120 for the hdloader??

[zewone]

I heard Westren Digitals don't fit into the PS2. Wrong shape or something.

[notoriousxbox]

Check the link that was in one of the earlier pages of this thread regarding hd compatability. It contains a list of the diff models of hd people have been able to get to work.

Here's the actual link :

http://ps2drives.x-pec.com/?p=list.

[Gosha]

I just tried the hd loader yesterday. I loaded about 3 games onto the thing with the 160 gb maxtor that compusa has. It works fast and fine. The hd loader read the hdd as being 127 gb.

[Rodego]

I just tried the hd loader yesterday. I loaded about 3 games onto the thing with the 160 gb maxtor that compusa has. It works fast and fine. The hd loader read the hdd as being 127 gb.


Thanks for the info

[Gosha]

Oh, btw, if anyone else uses the hdloader, can you try out Capcom Vs. SNK 2. I loaded a legit copy of it onto the thing, but for some reason the music doesn't work. I tried enabling the modes, etc..., no luck though. I emailed the people at hdloader.com about it.

[Ravaged]

How would I pricematch this? Just print out the online ad, bring it the front desk of staples and ask them to pricematch it? THanks for any help.

[Sheik Rattle Enroll]

Mildly off topic, but here's a good tip for those of you with hdloader: before playing a game, hit install and then cancel, that way your dvd drive won't keep spinning, which it does most of the time otherwise for some crazy reason.

[Freezingcoffee]

the dude at staples was giving me mad sas, first he was like it doesn't apply with instant rebate. I then replied saying that the policy didn't say anything about instant rebates. Then the guy took my ad and went into the back for 40 minutes and "called" compusa. He finally came out and told me that the competitor has to have the item in stock too. So, any other ideas?

[zewone]

the dude at staples was giving me mad sas, first he was like it doesn't apply with instant rebate. I then replied saying that the policy didn't say anything about instant rebates. Then the guy took my ad and went into the back for 40 minutes and "called" compusa. He finally came out and told me that the competitor has to have the item in stock too. So, any other ideas?

buy it at compusa.

[Freezingcoffee]

yea too bad its out of stock.....

[MasterSun1]

I just picked mine up from Staples with no problem. Total was $72.99 with 110% Price Guarantee and no sales tax since I'm in Oregon. The guy gave me no crap and even said "That's a nice deal!"

[guyver2077]

mine came out tp 85...atleast i got it

[$hady]

I just got mine off of ebay from someone selling them buy it now for $29.70 (36.65 w/shipping) He had about 60 left. Might be able to get it slightly cheaper but it was easier for me since I had some paypal money to play with.


I bought mine from the same guy, bought and paid paypal on monday. Now i just need to buy a hard drive. :P

120 gigs = 27 games! Sweet

unless they are dual layer games.

[maxgle]

I checked the site http://ps2drives.x-pec.com/?v_brand=&v_modelnum=L01P160&v_size=&v_rpm=&v_buff ersize=&v_fitting=&v_working=&v_version=&v_adaptor =&v_postedby=

obvious this 160G hd only works for Version 7 PS2 and mine is V4 according to
http://www.whitedog.co.uk/ps2-version.shtml

has anyone test this HD on different version adn work?

[epobirs]

I just got mine off of ebay from someone selling them buy it now for $29.70 (36.65 w/shipping) He had about 60 left. Might be able to get it slightly cheaper but it was easier for me since I had some paypal money to play with.


I bought mine from the same guy, bought and paid paypal on monday. Now i just need to buy a hard drive. :P

120 gigs = 27 games! Sweet

unless they are dual layer games.

You should be able to get a lot more than 27 games on there. Most games don't even come close to filling a DVD-5. In fact, if you examine the back of the boxes you'll see that many PS2 games, Ico and Maximo for example, are not on DVD but use CD instead.

One interesting aspect of the power of current generation consoles is that quite a lot of animation that would once have been streamed from the disc is now performed with real-time animation. This takes up a lot less space than compressed video files. So a game laoded with cinematic sequences can fit in a smaller spae than the same game on PSone relying on FMV to deliver acceptable animation quality.

The prerendered stuff is still much better looking, of course, but games like FF X offer some very encouraging ideas of what the next generation will offer.

[jkam]

I checked the site
obvious this 160G hd only works for Version 7 PS2 and mine is V4 according to
http://www.whitedog.co.uk/ps2-version.shtml

has anyone test this HD on different version adn work?

Although I don't know the answer to your question...wouldn't it be safe to assume as long as it fits and works with one version of the PS2 it would work for all of them? I say this because it says on the hdloader site the only versions of the PS2's that don't work are the first three japanese models.

[flizmo007]

Sold out here, sold out online, BB, Staples won't pricematch because they are not in stock at Compusa. I guess it just wasnt meant to be. Maybe next time.

[epobirs]

If you can't get the CompUSA deal and you live near a Fry's they have a 120GB Maxtor (7200 RPM, 8 MB cache) for $70.

[maxgle]

you are right, forget all that, I am just going to buy the HD

[jkam]

you are right, forget all that, I am just going to buy the HD

You could also ask Gosha what version PS2 it is.

I just tried the hd loader yesterday. I loaded about 3 games onto the thing with the 160 gb maxtor that compusa has. It works fast and fine. The hd loader read the hdd as being 127 gb.

Word.

[yogi99]

How would I pricematch this? Just print out the online ad, bring it the front desk of staples and ask them to pricematch it? THanks for any help.

This what I did to get pricematch plus extra 10% off from CompUSA's price at Staples. I went to CompUSA store and get the printed ads in the entrance. Then I go to Staples and ask a guy who works there about the pricematch plus extra 10% off store policy, then the guy read the ads and thinks for few seconds. Then the guy said he will do it and he tells another clerk to give me pricematch plus 10% off (110% pricematch or something like that). He didn't even check if CompUSA has this hdd or not. Cool guy.

How did you guys get pricematch at bestbuy? I went to bestbuy and the guy I asked say bestbuy don't pricematch.

[PrinceNeil]

Anybody order from consolesource.com lately for the HDloader? I placed an order yesterday morning and paid for it PayPal and it still says "I" on my order history.

[droidekaspam]

Anybody order from consolesource.com lately for the HDloader? I placed an order yesterday morning and paid for it PayPal and it still says "I" on my order history.

If you are worried, use their customer service system to email them (highly recommended). I ordered Monday morning, emailed them same day, got a response Wednesday, and it has shipped Thurday. It seems like it will take 3+ days to ship out, not 24 hrs like advertised.

EDIT: BTW, their toll free phone no. did not work.

[zewone]

Anybody order from consolesource.com lately for the HDloader? I placed an order yesterday morning and paid for it PayPal and it still says "I" on my order history.

If you are worried, use their customer service system to email them (highly recommended). I ordered Monday morning, emailed them same day, got a response Wednesday, and it has shipped Thurday. It seems like it will take 3+ days to ship out, not 24 hrs like advertised.

EDIT: BTW, their toll free phone no. did not work.

Ordered mine Sunday night. Got an email saying it shipped Monday afternoon.

[Gosha]

I'm not home right now, but I think I have a v7 ps2. If I remember correctly, its the 310000R version. I'll look up the number when I get home.

I've heard of the hd loader having some problems loading imports with v9 ps2s. You can only load imports if your system is either modded, or with swap magic discs.

[Zimmy]

If you haven't got Hdloader yet, grab it quick!
Sony finally awoke from their slumber and supposedly going after anyone who sells the product with all its power.
I ordered one but haven't received a shipment or cancel notice yet.

[zewone]

If you haven't got Hdloader yet, grab it quick!
Sony finally awoke from their slumber and supposedly going after anyone who sells the product with all its power.
I ordered one but haven't received a shipment or cancel notice yet.

where did you hear this from?

[Zimmy]

www.PS2Ownz.com

[zewone]

Well I'm glad mine was already shipped

[FatBoyInside]

I think they mentioned the cease & desist memo from Sony only restricts U.S.-based distributors, so places like ConsoleSource (located in Canada) can still operate like normal. Also, the list of problematic and non-compatible PS2 games is longer than expected (i.e. Arc the Lad, Devil May Cry, Contra, and some of the newer games...kinda disappointed)

[jkam]

I think they mentioned the cease & desist memo from Sony only restricts U.S.-based distributors, so places like ConsoleSource (located in Canada) can still operate like normal. Also, the list of problematic and non-compatible PS2 games is longer than expected (i.e. Arc the Lad, Devil May Cry, Contra, and some of the newer games...kinda disappointed)

It's not suprising that Sony is a bit bent...but if I actually rented games to copy I would be losing money considering I have been paying around $5 for new games. :D

Also (here) (http://www.ps2nfo.com/ps2hdd.html) is what seems like a homegrown list of non-compatible games along with compatibility modes for other games.

[FatBoyInside]

It's not suprising that Sony is a bit bent...but if I actually rented games to copy I would be losing money considering I have been paying around $5 for new games. :D


Not if you pick-up those "gamer pass" for unlimited rentals ($20 per month, or $50 for a 3-month pass). :wink: Oh the possibilities...but my BBV normally only have old games in stock.

[PrinceNeil]

Anybody order from consolesource.com lately for the HDloader? I placed an order yesterday morning and paid for it PayPal and it still says "I" on my order history.

If you are worried, use their customer service system to email them (highly recommended). I ordered Monday morning, emailed them same day, got a response Wednesday, and it has shipped Thurday. It seems like it will take 3+ days to ship out, not 24 hrs like advertised.

EDIT: BTW, their toll free phone no. did not work.

I actually emailed them that same day that I purchased it because right after I paid with PayPal, it took me back to their(consolesource) site and gave me a failed payment error message. I checked my PayPal account and it went through just fine but I don't know about their end.

[maxgle]

got my 160G HD, cant wait for my HDloader

[Richter]

where's the cheapest place to get the 'Loader from?

[PrinceNeil]

where's the cheapest place to get the 'Loader from?

It seems like eBay has it for $29.25 + ~$4 shipping. I ordered mine from consolesource.com($34.99 + shipping) and I'm still waiting for ANY status on my order....I should have gotten mine off eBay.

[notoriousxbox]

I ordered mine from Consolesource also. I placed my order on Thur 6/24. Now realizing that it was coming from Canada I was not messing around so choose the expedited shipping 1-5 days. On Fri 6/25 I got an email stating that they were processing the order.

Mon 6/28 I recieved the email that they shipped it and the package arrived yesterday 7/1. All together it took a week. And I choose the fastest shipping.

NewEgg.com though was amazing. I ordered the 80 gb hd from them Tues morning 6/29. Thurs 7/1 there's Fed ex at my house with the Hd. For free shipping thats great.

[maxgle]

I am picking it up from a local store.

[maxgle]

Between, what is the best modchip to install to the PS2 and works best next to this HDloader ? Anyone knows?

[PrinceNeil]

I finally got on the "Queue" on their system. They said 24hrs to ship but we'll see.

You don't need a modchip to use the HDloader, unless you plan on backing up from backups(which I doubt you have any otherwise you'll already have the modchip).

[Richter]

I finally got on the "Queue" on their system. They said 24hrs to ship but we'll see.

You don't need a modchip to use the HDloader, unless you plan on backing up from backups(which I doubt you have any otherwise you'll already have the modchip).cant you use them swap magic cds for that?

[minos1067]

I BELIEVE SO, SWAP MAGIC GOES FOR $65 AT THIS STORE IN MY AREA. IS THAT TOO MUCH? ALSO, I RECIEVED MY HDLOADER YESTERDAY AND ALL I NEED IS MY MAXTOR. I JUST FIGURED OUT WHY THE WESTERN DIGITALS DONT "FIT". IT IS BECAUSE THE CONNECTIONS BUILT ONTO THE HD DONT MATCH UP WITH THE CONNECTIONS ON THE MODEM WICH ARE BOTH STATIONERY.

[maxgle]

hmm.. good idea. I might get modchip just so I can install backup and imports on my Harddrive using HDloader.. lol..

[maxgle]

HOLY CRAP! Installing modchip service are higher than a brand new PS2 system!! urrrg.. nevermind

[epobirs]

For anyone who picked up the MAxtor 120 GB drive at Fry's for $70 they're now offering Maxtor 160 GB for the same price. After two days!

Good thing I hadn't opened mine yet. It'll make the exchange a little quicker.

You won't be able to use the full capacity with HDLoader but it should give you an additional 17 GB over a 120 GB unit. Not a bad increase for the same price.

[Richter]

got my 'Loader from an eBay seller, $36 shipped

[askew1]

You don't need a modchip to use Hdloader. It works in unmodded PS2's just fine.

[yomama]

I got the 160 gig drive pricematched at staples today even AFTER the compusa sale was over. 71.44 total. Thanks for the deal

[js1]

Mildly off topic, but here's a good tip for those of you with hdloader: before playing a game, hit install and then cancel, that way your dvd drive won't keep spinning, which it does most of the time otherwise for some crazy reason.

Thanks for the advice, I was wondering about if there was some way to keep the disk in there and have it work , and not have it spinning. This thing is great!

[droidekaspam]

Anybody know of any good deals recently on a hdd?

[swetooth9]

i've been hearing that the hd loader only recognizes 137 gigs of the 160 gig maxtor hard drive...however, my hd loader only recognizes 125 gigs :( and when i formatted it, it only had about 123 gigs free :(

what was the 2 gigs used for?

[swetooth9]

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[guyver2077]

mines detects 127 available out of the 160..thats the max it can detect

[droidekaspam]

Same here, I got 127. It makes sense since that is close to 128. Anybody get 137, or is that a typo on the website?

[swetooth9]

o yea, mine was 127, not 125...did u guys have only 123 gigs free after formatting it? what are the other two gigs used for?

[swetooth9]

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[zewone]

Nice I picked this up today. Bestbuy let me pricematch it 2 weeks after the sale started. And yeah on my HD Loader I got 127GB and 125GB free.