A pill to erase your bad memories...

[Zenithian Legend]

http://health.msn.com/centers/depression/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100148859&GT1=8769

Ignorance = bliss, hooooo!!!

I just got done watching Eternal Sunshine of Spotless Mind too, how ironic.

Would any of you take this? Quite the double-edged sword, I mean let's say you've got something that keeps you up at night, and kills you inside mentally, you could just drop all that anxiety. On the other hand, you're giving up a part of who you are...

[Dead of Knight]

Fuck no. Though none of my experiences are really that horrible.

[Scobie]

I'd wipe out memories of E.T. on the Atari 2600, Gotcha and Bayou Billy on the NES, Last Battle on the Genesis, and Kirby's Air Ride on the 'Cube. Those games sucked enough to scar me emotionally.

[Mookyjooky]

I'd hate to say it, but I would. On one hand I feel the stuff I went through made me stronger, on the other it made me fearful of it happening again....

I'd take them to become fearless again.

[PlumeNoir]

http://health.msn.com/centers/depression/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100148859&GT1=8769

Ignorance = bliss, hooooo!!!

I just got done watching Eternal Sunshine of Spotless Mind too, how ironic.

Would any of you take this? Quite the double-edged sword, I mean let's say you've got something that keeps you up at night, and kills you inside mentally, you could just drop all that anxiety. On the other hand, you're giving up a part of who you are...

Just heard about this on Drew and Mike on the WRIF.

Nah, I wouldn't take the pill - I like my emotional damage.

[mykevermin]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5b/WildIrishRoseBottleandLogo.jpg/225px-WildIrishRoseBottleandLogo.jpg

Evidently they've had a liquid form on the market for years.

[RegalSin2020]

Well you know how they say and Elephant never forgets. If you gave that to an Elephant it would probably forget how to fight or the danger of fire. Think really hard on this.

imagine the pain it would cause other people and yourself. It is better to face your obsticles by yourself.

[Lord Draconus777]

"With this pill, I will forget the fear of being caught while attempting to murder someone.... *gulps the pill* Mmmm, time to go on a killing spree!!!!!"

Ya, that's what'll happen if this pill comes to a mass audience.

[Paco]

Can it erase the pain of Duke Nukem Forever being announced and subsequently pushed back for almost half of my life?

[Dead of Knight]

Well you know how they say and Elephant never forgets. If you gave that to an Elephant it would probably forget how to fight or the danger of fire. Think really hard on this.

imagine the pain it would cause other people and yourself. It is better to face your obsticles by yourself.

Man, ANOTHER post by RegalSin that almost makes sense. Hell, it pretty much makes perfect sense.

[T234]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5b/WildIrishRoseBottleandLogo.jpg/225px-WildIrishRoseBottleandLogo.jpg

Evidently they've had a liquid form on the market for years.
Holy shit, my great-grandfather drank that.

[AlbinoNinja]

Did anyone even read the article!?! You don't completely forget the incident, the emotional impact is just lessened. The article describes it as "removing the dramatic music from a movie's climax," you'll still remember it.

This treatment could be amazing, especially for veterans. I obviously wouldn't take it, since I haven't gone through anything traumatic, but it's not like you completely forget the incident.

[botticus]

Seems interesting, not sure how practical it is. Not a simple matter of taking a pill, but probably going to a psychiatrist and hopefully reliving a memory after taking the pill to re-remember it.

[Apossum]

You don't forget anything, it just blocks the chemical that triggers the stressful reaction to memories. You could still comprehend, remember, and feel bad about things, you just won't have a heart attack every time.


so, no, RegalSin's post made no sense whatsoever. did not even come close to coming close. But it was still awesome. :lol:

[Rags]

I was thinking this was going to be a day after abortion pill thing.

[PKRipp3r]

the science behind this, adrenaline<>memory, is really interesting

Iraq vets who want this should get it now

[Number83]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5b/WildIrishRoseBottleandLogo.jpg/225px-WildIrishRoseBottleandLogo.jpg

Evidently they've had a liquid form on the market for years.

FTW!!!

[Dark Slayer120]

I'd take it.

[Weedy649]

Im really suprised no one has mentioned that Trace Memory was this in a nutshell. As the game points out, it could be used for good or bad but ill leave it at that as to not provide spoilers.

[Apossum]

Im really suprised no one has mentioned that Trace Memory was this in a nutshell. As the game points out, it could be used for good or bad but ill leave it at that as to not provide spoilers.


i don't think this could be used for bad. It blunts the stressors triggered by bad memories, but that doesn't mean you lose all sense of morality or completely forget that killing people is wrong or anything like that. Emotion is still tied to the memory or at least, the acknowledgment that the memory was bad for reasons x,y, and z.

[lordwow]

A little philosophy 101...

If you get rid of the bad memories, what memories are good?

[SpazX]

As someone said, it doesn't erase memories, it just lessens the emotions attached to them. I can imagine this having a pretty low success rate too, but who knows? It could really help people with traumatic memories.

[help1]

placebo.

[Scobie]

I would also want to forget ALF from the Sega Master System. That game was so supremely bad and, being a fan of ALF at the time, it was as much of a letdown as ET was on the 2600.

[Strell]

"But everytime I learn something, it pushes out something I already know. Like that time I took that wine making class and forgot how to drive."
You were drunk!
"And how!"

On a serious note, naw. I'm not one to believe my emotions and memories are purely driven by chemicals, and generally berate those that do. And given that you learn the most from your bad experiences/decisions, it helps to have them at the ready. You grow from them.

Besides, help1 is right. This is probably just a sugar pill for those who have too much money, a lot of hope, and not a lot of common sense.

[PKRipp3r]

"But everytime I learn something, it pushes out something I already know. Like that time I took that wine making class and forgot how to drive."
You were drunk!
"And how!"

On a serious note, naw. I'm not one to believe my emotions and memories are purely driven by chemicals, and generally berate those that do. And given that you learn the most from your bad experiences/decisions, it helps to have them at the ready. You grow from them.

Besides, help1 is right. This is probably just a sugar pill for those who have too much money, a lot of hope, and not a lot of common sense.

how exactly do you 'grow' from having your family doctor rape you in his office when you're 12, while your parents are in the waiting room?

your definition of a 'bad experience' seems to be quite sheltered and a tad naive in general.

there's bad and then there's BAD

nothing to be 'learned' from the experience of having your family killed in front of you by a death squad while you're hiding underneath the kitchen table

except that all emotions and memories are chemically based, so using a chemical to soften that bad memory is a good thing, not an example of someone 'being soft'

[Strell]

Ok, clearly you have issues, and clearly you are taking my words in and as a very nice and naive way.

Obviously if we were discussing what one might consider bad versus someone else, we'll find wildly different definitions. I wasn't disputing that, you are saying I am. You are wrong.

I'm not talking about people who were raped by their fathers or brothers or doctors or other truly traumatic events, in which case this pill might be a viable option. I'm talking about common pitfalls of life - the guy that hates his job because his best friend got promoted after a big meeting instead of him, and after 10 years of seeing him prosper, it eats away at him for a while. Not death squads and whatever else you can imagine up.

Let's be serious - this will be marketed as a fashionable drug of choice for the elite and the rich. Boob-jobbed moms will take it from when they had an embarassing moment in high school. Stupid emo kids will suck one down after they have a bad time in the cafeteria.

It's not going to be cited as a sort of fix-all for the huge issues in life, it's going to be a quick fix for the more minor instances. In which case the things that aren't life altering, but are perhaps painful. Maybe losing a dog when you were a child.

You need to calm the fuck down and stop pretending people are being stupid about this. I'm looking at it from the standpoint that it would be marketed as - as a cure for the common misery. You know, right alongside the "Restless Leg Syndrome" Pills.

You do and can grow from bad experiences and mistakes, especially the kind some smiley idiot on TV will market this as a cure for. If you don't think that is true, then you must still be in high school.

[Deadpool]

not irony but coincedence.

[Apossum]

On a serious note, naw. I'm not one to believe my emotions and memories are purely driven by chemicals, and generally berate those that do. And given that you learn the most from your bad experiences/decisions, it helps to have them at the ready. You grow from them.

Besides, help1 is right. This is probably just a sugar pill for those who have too much money, a lot of hope, and not a lot of common sense.


these aren't necessarily things you learn and grow from. You don't learn from having your fingers chopped off, from being stabbed in the neck repeatedly or from being raped, for that matter. at least, you don't learn anything that's going to justify the experience in your head and keep you from writihing over it. and chemicals play a huge role in your nervous body's response to stimuli that trigger awful memories. One guy was talking about how he felt like he was going to have a heart attack every time he heard certain sounds...

btw, help1 is so wrong. The part of the article about the pill is a double blind study. they're not selling anything. I don't think the researchers involved in this are doing it for fun. Some of them are motivated by people they care about who are fighting wars and stuff...
and iirc, help1 is a high school kid who hasn't done extensive scientific research about memory and brain chemicals.

[Quackzilla]

I've been through some bad shit that had done serious psychological damage, but I still would not want to erase even a single memory...

[Pancake Rabbit]

Just heard about this on Drew and Mike on the WRIF.



Drew and Mike are the shizznit.