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Zoglog
11-28-2006, 08:53 PM
Nintendo Wii is not as Cheap as people think it is

Basically I made this comparison with basic functions in mind (Online functionality, 2 Controllers, Decent Video connection, Saving Games)

20GB PS3 $499+ $4 HDMI cable + $50 Extra Controller = $553
PS3 of course is the most expensive, but it does have that nifty bluray drive,

Xbox 360 $399 - $100 rebate @ Microcenter (also can get around $320 @ Dell) + $40 Wireless Controller = $339
Easily Available and big Library of Games

Wii $250 + $40 Wiimote + $20 NunChuck + $30 Component Cable (Rare atm, even sold one on ebay for $160) = $340
Deceptively Expensive, but very unique and fun and also comes with Wii sports! I'd give Wii sports at least a $30 added value.

Bottom Line is, whether you want the Wii or the 360, the Cost is around the same really. Granted Wii comes with Wii sports which is a huge bonus above the others. But really it's no suprise that many people are holding off on the PS3

Of course this is all assuming you can pick up a PS3 or Wii in stores

Thunderscope
11-28-2006, 08:59 PM
It doesnt really seem fair to compare a sale price for the 360 in your comparison, although I do think the 360 is the best value with or without it...

Zoglog
11-28-2006, 09:00 PM
It doesnt really seem fair to compare a sale price for the 360 in your comparison, although I do think the 360 is the best value with or without it...

Granted, but there is a price drop coming soon, and it's pretty easy to get it at a discounted price.

dtcarson
11-28-2006, 09:00 PM
Is the 499 PS3 similar to the 'basic' 360, ie, anyone who cares should really upgrade to the 599/Premium pack? If so, that's not a fair comparison.
360--Well, it's been out a year, it's probably not fair to really compare it either, to two brand new consoles.
How necessary is the component cable for the Wii?

213 bucks is still quite a difference; especially since you can play the Wii out of the box. If you're wanting a BD player, and the PS3 is full-spec, then it's a great price for a BD player, but as a gaming console I think it's very expensive.

Zoglog
11-28-2006, 09:06 PM
Is the 499 PS3 similar to the 'basic' 360, ie, anyone who cares should really upgrade to the 599/Premium pack? If so, that's not a fair comparison.
360--Well, it's been out a year, it's probably not fair to really compare it either, to two brand new consoles.
How necessary is the component cable for the Wii?

213 bucks is still quite a difference; especially since you can play the Wii out of the box. If you're wanting a BD player, and the PS3 is full-spec, then it's a great price for a BD player, but as a gaming console I think it's very expensive.

naw the 20GB PS3 is severely different than the Ripoff 360 Core. Saving games should be a basic function and in order to save games with the 360 core you'd either need to shell out $39 for the memory card or $100 for the hard drive, essentially making it the same price as the premium.

The 20GB PS3 has a fully functional non propreitary HD format that can be swaped at a very attractive cost. The only main feature differentiator (Besides the HD) would be the Wifi, Chrome, and Memory card reader which are completely useless to many people. however Saving? That's pretty much basic.

Plus 20GB HD is both for the Xbox 360 regular and the PS3 20GB so it's on fair ground on that aspect.
And the Nintendo Wii comes with internal memory so a SD Card is not needed.

SpazX
11-28-2006, 09:13 PM
Holy shit are we still doing this? The Wii costs the least, the 360 is in the middle, and the PS3 costs the most. It's not complicated.

Zoglog
11-28-2006, 09:14 PM
Holy shit are we still doing this? The Wii costs the least, the 360 is in the middle, and the PS3 costs the most. It's not complicated.

I can see your mind only goes as far as your gratis network Pyramid Scam will Get you ;)

Dr Mario Kart
11-28-2006, 09:16 PM
Doesnt the word Basic normally mean you dont add stuff?

Zoglog
11-28-2006, 09:21 PM
Doesnt the word Basic normally mean you dont add stuff?

If you think the Xbox 360 Core is a better deal than the Xbox 360 Regular, then maybe yeah.
This is what you get when you don't read the whole post

I made this comparison with basic functions in mind (Online functionality, 2 Controllers, Decent Video connection, Saving Games)

Kuros
11-28-2006, 09:29 PM
Nintendo Wii is not as Cheap as people think it is

Basically I made this comparison with basic functions in mind (Online functionality, 2 Controllers, Decent Video connection)

20GB PS3 $499+ $4 HDMI cable + $50 Extra Controller = $553
PS3 of course is the most expensive, but it does have that nifty bluray drive,

Xbox 360 $399 - $100 rebate @ Microcenter (also can get around $320 @ Dell) + $40 Wireless Controller = $339
Easily Available and big Library of Games

Wii $250 + $40 Wiimote + $20 NunChuck + $30 Component Cable (Rare atm, even sold one on ebay for $160) = $340
Deceptively Expensive, but very unique and fun and also comes with Wii sports! I'd give Wii sports at least a $30 added value.

Bottom Line is, whether you want the Wii or the 360, the Cost is around the same really. Granted Wii comes with Wii sports which is a huge bonus above the others. But really it's no suprise that many people are holding off on the PS3

Of course this is all assuming you can pick up a PS3 or Wii in stores

I say that this is a poor comparison.

1. You have a discounted item for the 360, this is skewed towards the 360. Why not go all the way and use the $100 core that was on Amazon?
2. You claim that the 360 will have a price drop, yet you have no proof of said price drop.
3. You are comparing apples to oranges here. Compare premiums to premiums and cores to cores.

I'd say compare the Wii to the Premium 360 to the Premium PS3.

PS3: $600
360: $400
Wii: $250

Lets add in an extra controller, wireless for the 360.

PS3: $650
360: $450
Wii: $310

Now a component cable for the Wii and PS3.

PS3: $680
360: $450
Wii: $340

Finally, the connector so you can hook up PS1 and PS2 memory cards to the PS3.

PS3: $700
360: $450
Wii: $340

Now all are equal for the most part, all systems can play 2 player, can save games and all have component cables and all can play previous generation games and save them.

The PS3 is double the price of the Wii and the 360 is $110 more than the Wii. I'd say the Wii is still the best choice for the gamer who wants to have a next gen system and is on a budget.

Dr Mario Kart
11-28-2006, 09:34 PM
I think basic functions mean different things to different people. My Wii doesnt have an internet connection and I'll never buy a component cable for anything.

pinoy530
11-28-2006, 09:37 PM
You have to add a gamecube controller or a classic controller to the price of the wii also or you dont get snes, genesis, gamecube or n64.

Kuros
11-28-2006, 09:39 PM
You have to add a gamecube controller or a classic controller to the price of the wii also or you dont get snes, genesis, gamecube or n64.

I didn't add in downloadable content on purpose due to the varying prices and for the fact that the PS3 doesn't have any at the moment AFAIK.

mykevermin
11-28-2006, 09:42 PM
Oh, for fuck's sake...

SpazX
11-28-2006, 09:45 PM
They're all playable out of the fucking box. You don't need to add another controller and another video cable. Christ, if you're going to add anything it should be a game. Then the PS3 and 360 would go up an equal amount and the Wii would go up $10 less than that, which is irrelevant.

These comparisons are only different from comparing MSRP because you want to give it a slant. Any idiot can see this.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Dr Mario Kart
11-28-2006, 09:46 PM
Everyone here is already pretty educated about the various gaming machines and their costs, which vary depending on what the individual wants.

Spinning the price comparison one way or another isnt actually useful to anyone.

Zoglog
11-28-2006, 09:47 PM
I say that this is a poor comparison.

1. You have a discounted item for the 360, this is skewed towards the 360. Why not go all the way and use the $100 core that was on Amazon?
2. You claim that the 360 will have a price drop, yet you have no proof of said price drop.
3. You are comparing apples to oranges here. Compare premiums to premiums and cores to cores.

I'd say compare the Wii to the Premium 360 to the Premium PS3.

PS3: $600
360: $400
Wii: $250

Lets add in an extra controller, wireless for the 360.

PS3: $650
360: $450
Wii: $310

Now a component cable for the Wii and PS3.

PS3: $680
360: $450
Wii: $340

Finally, the connector so you can hook up PS1 and PS2 memory cards to the PS3.

PS3: $700
360: $450
Wii: $340

Now all are equal for the most part, all systems can play 2 player, can save games and all have component cables and all can play previous generation games and save them.

The PS3 is double the price of the Wii and the 360 is $110 more than the Wii. I'd say the Wii is still the best choice for the gamer who wants to have a next gen system and is on a budget.

Your logic is flawed because you assume that all premiums and cores are created equal when they are just marketing packages. It would be like comparing a AMD and Intel Part #'s. or an Asus Deluxe Motherboard to another Brand's Deluxe motherboard.

Much of the pricing on the 360 is based on availability at this time. However I did not choose to negatively skew the new systems because of availibility because that's a temporary flux. Discounts of that nature for the 360 are prevalent and have been for awhile.

We aren't looking at backwards compatibility, online marketplace.
Just basic price comparison according to the criteria and midrange technology. My 24" Toshiba Tube from college had component connections, this is not new.

As for the price drop, true it is speculated, but I wouldnt be suprised. Even if you take off the $100 rebate we could go about bashing the Wii for not having a Hard Drive or the 360 and wii for not having a Blu ray drive or the 360 for not having motion sensing. I laid down a pretty clear assessment of basic functions.

Kuros
11-28-2006, 09:52 PM
Your logic is flawed because you assume that all premiums and cores are created equal when they are just marketing packages. It would be like comparing a AMD and Intel Part #'s. or an Asus Deluxe Motherboard to another Brand's Deluxe motherboard.

Much of the pricing on the 360 is based on availability at this time. However I did not choose to negatively skew the new systems because of availibility because that's a temporary flux. Discounts of that nature for the 360 are prevalent and have been for awhile.

We aren't looking at backwards compatibility, online marketplace.
Just basic price comparison according to the criteria and midrange technology. My 24" Toshiba Tube from college had component connections, this is not new.

As for the price drop, true it is speculated, but I wouldnt be suprised. Even if you take off the $100 rebate we could go about bashing the Wii for not having a Hard Drive or the 360 and wii for not having a Blu ray drive or the 360 for not having motion sensing. I laid down a pretty clear assessment of basic functions.

If my logic is flawed then so is yours due to the fact that the PS3 core and the 360 premium (which you compared) are still not equal due to the PS3 having such things as HDMI and Blu-Ray and the 360 having component cables. Also, I didn't factor in online marketplace, I did factor in backwards compatiblity due to the fact it's a big selling point, although I was assuming that the person had owned the previous systems. If you wanted to, you could add in a Gamecube memory card and a Gamecube controller, both which could be had for under $20 now days. Also, you would have to add in the PS1 and PS2 memory cards, which could be had for about $20.

mykevermin
11-28-2006, 09:55 PM
Your logic is flawed because you assume that all premiums and cores are created equal when they are just marketing packages. It would be like comparing a AMD and Intel Part #'s. or an Asus Deluxe Motherboard to another Brand's Deluxe motherboard.

Much of the pricing on the 360 is based on availability at this time. However I did not choose to negatively skew the new systems because of availibility because that's a temporary flux. Discounts of that nature for the 360 are prevalent and have been for awhile.

We aren't looking at backwards compatibility, online marketplace.
Just basic price comparison according to the criteria and midrange technology. My 24" Toshiba Tube from college had component connections, this is not new.

As for the price drop, true it is speculated, but I wouldnt be suprised. Even if you take off the $100 rebate we could go about bashing the Wii for not having a Hard Drive or the 360 and wii for not having a Blu ray drive or the 360 for not having motion sensing. I laid down a pretty clear assessment of basic functions.

Zoglog, the problem is that your criteria are just as arbitrary as anyone else's is, yet you seem to buy into their objectivity versus other measures. You're just fooling yourself in the end.

Zoglog
11-28-2006, 09:57 PM
If my logic is flawed then so is yours due to the fact that the PS3 core and the 360 premium (which you compared) are still not equal due to the PS3 having such things as HDMI and Blu-Ray and the 360 having component cables. Also, I didn't factor in online marketplace, I did factor in backwards compatiblity due to the fact it's a big selling point. Although I was assuming that the person had owned the previous systems. If you wanted to, you could add in a Gamecube memory card and a Gamecube controller, both which could be had for under $20 now days. Also, you would have to add in the PS1 and PS2 memory cards, which could be had for about $20.

I don't see how backwards compatibility is a basic selling point. I've played 1 game at most backwards compatible since I got my xbox 360 and none with my ps3 or Wii. It's not a basic gaming function. The 2nd controller of course is argueable, but since the Wii is such a party console, it's only fair to make the ground more flat.

PhreQuencYViii
11-28-2006, 09:58 PM
There all free if you steal them!

Kuros
11-28-2006, 09:59 PM
I don't see how backwards compatibility is a basic selling point. I've played 1 game at most backwards compatible since I got my xbox 360 and none with my ps3 or Wii. It's not a basic gaming function. The 2nd controller of course is argueable, but since the Wii is such a party console, it's only fair to make the ground more flat.

Is it because you still own the previous consoles? To people who trade in consoles, backwards compatibility is a selling point, otherwise why would the companies even bother with it?

dastly75
11-28-2006, 10:00 PM
I don't see how backwards compatibility is a basic selling point. I've played 1 game at most backwards compatible since I got my xbox 360 and none with my ps3 or Wii.

Zoglog, the problem is that your criteria are just as arbitrary as anyone else's is, yet you seem to buy into their objectivity versus other measures. You're just fooling yourself in the end.

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Ikohn4ever
11-28-2006, 10:02 PM
Your logic is flawed



so great is your ability to see that other peoples' logic is flawed that somehow you miss that your logic is as about complete as swiss cheese.


A couple things, rebate unfair, secondly, not all games require the nunchuk, next ps3 is rare so it would be more money, and you barely make mention of wii sports so that could easily cut 30 bucks from the wii price or add 30 to the other systems. Factoring in that the prices are a lot more spread out.

dtcarson
11-28-2006, 10:04 PM
3. You are comparing apples to oranges here. Compare premiums to premiums and cores to cores.

Oranges don't have cores.

anyway.

For me, by saying the Wii was playable out of the box, I meant it came with a game.
And of course game quality comes into it too--if a console doesn't have games you'd be interested in playing, it doesn't really matter if it's 50 bucks [except for ebay purposes.].

I think backwards compatibility is overrated; however, I think the download-ability of classic games from various consoles is a cool feature, though I also think it's somewhat overpriced.

jkam
11-28-2006, 11:54 PM
No microcenters in my area.

Wii $7 component cable coming soon:

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/27/third-party-wii-component-cables-for-under-7/

XBOX 360 and PS3 no game included.

Kendro
11-29-2006, 12:59 AM
What exactly is the point of this thread again? Taking out the Micro Center "sale" price, and ultimately you've proven that the PS3 is the most expensive, the Wii is the least expensive, and the 360 is in the middle. This has been fact for like the past year.

msdmoney
11-29-2006, 01:13 AM
Zoglog, the problem is that your criteria are just as arbitrary as anyone else's is, yet you seem to buy into their objectivity versus other measures. You're just fooling yourself in the end.

This pretty much sums it up.

jer7583
11-29-2006, 01:20 AM
I am so sick and fucking tired of hearing about "console price comparisons" that are all skewed to make one thing or the other seem cheaper or more expensive. People, you walk into any retail outlet, the PS3 is the most expensive, then 360, then Wii.

The asshole that made this one made some big mistakes. He mentions the high prices of component cables for Wii on ebay, but no mention of the high prices of PS3s on Ebay either. Why not just throw in an XBL gold subscription to make it seem like the 360 is even more expensive? Hey you can just take out $130 of the cost of the PS3, since you're getting a PS2 included? right?

The bottom line is. PS3-$500/600 360- $300/400 Wii-$250.

That's how it is, and it all goes up in price from there.

Zoglog
11-29-2006, 05:37 AM
The asshole that made this one made some big mistakes. He mentions the high prices of component cables for Wii on ebay, but no mention of the high prices of PS3s on Ebay either. Why not just throw in an XBL gold subscription to make it seem like the 360 is even more expensive? Hey you can just take out $130 of the cost of the PS3, since you're getting a PS2 included? right?


This asshole somehow didn't figure out that the inflated ebay cost wasn't included in the final calculation for anything, whoops =p?

I love how some of you take offense over this very simple set of basic current gen criteria for gaming and are coming in here arms flailing mad making comments that have nothing to do with the outcome? interesting ;) I mean people are making comments about the fact that Wii comes with Wii sports and other things that I've already put in the OP that they somehow missed. Not suprising. either way Playing Wii sports with only 1 wiimote sounds a little lonely to me.

I'm not here to argue about the objectivity of my criteria, it's always subjective, but I find it quite interesting how things like being able to save your game, simple online connection, a decent video connection, at least 2 controllers are so controversial.

Before you fanboys get your panties in a bunch, i'm not saying that any of the 3 consoles are not worth the price. It's all marketing. You people need to fucking relax ;)

Strell
11-29-2006, 05:43 AM
Fuck all of this.

I'm buying Tictacs. Those are fucking edible right out of the goddamn box and are multiplayer compatible as well, AND they cost like 78 cents.

Zoglog
11-29-2006, 05:45 AM
Fuck all of this.

I'm buying Tictacs. Those are fucking edible right out of the goddamn box and are multiplayer compatible as well, AND they cost like 78 cents.

Nice try, you fail ;)

Strell
11-29-2006, 05:46 AM
Nice try, you fail ;)

Just like this entire goddamn thread.

lordxixor101
11-29-2006, 11:18 AM
Just like this entire goddamn thread.

I love how people read a threat called price comparison only to say how much they hate this topic. It didn't say free Taco Bell Food as a title here. :)

What I love about these threads is, the prices are literally different for everyone, since everyone wants different stuff. Plus, I don't see the point in skewing anything towards one system. Aren't we all gamers? If given the option, wouldn't we all like to have all 3 right now?

daroga
11-29-2006, 11:24 AM
Between this and the recent graphical compairson threads of the 360 & PS3, and the Wii and everything else, I feel like we've all stepped back in time...

All these systems are out. Go play them rather than bickering about them or comparing them or whatever you think you're doing.

Strell
11-29-2006, 11:34 AM
I love how people read a threat called price comparison only to say how much they hate this topic. It didn't say free Taco Bell Food as a title here. :)

What I love about these threads is, the prices are literally different for everyone, since everyone wants different stuff. Plus, I don't see the point in skewing anything towards one system. Aren't we all gamers? If given the option, wouldn't we all like to have all 3 right now?

I guess if you've got $1400 to blow on the systems alone, then you're probably not hurting to drop another thousand on games and accessories.

And I guess in a perfect world, that would be awesome. Which is like saying I wish it rained donuts, or that chocolate rivers erupted out of the ground I walk on, and that - in the mythical happy land I happen to live in - that we hung the jerk that invented work, in the Big Rock Candy Mountains.

But that isn't the case, so we've got to use our money wisely.

Since you obviously can't put 2 and 2 together, you failed to understand that anything worthwhile and intelligent in this thread was said by people long before I appeared. Beyond that, in dealing with an OP who adamantly argues against every shred of logic thrown his way, we're again seeing the same nonsense that has been around for a few months now.

How about the notion that it is impossible to ever put the consoles on an even scale? 'Cuz some people don't want online service, so they don't need to pay for live. OR, possibly, they can't, as they don't have broadband access. Maybe someone literally never plays multiplayer games, so they don't need extra controllers. Maybe they aren't going to download VC games, so they don't need any extra memory.

If that is the case, there is no end of the permutations possible for what you need with a system. None. And even if we were to be totally objective about it, that would require going to the store and buying the "core components," which is something no one can agree on anyway, at which point we could conceivably compare the receipts.

But even that is folly, because, again, how do we go about doing that? Does the 360 get a $20 credit because it has more games out now? Does the Wii get a $30 credit because it comes packaged with a game that is arguably one of the best party games on any next-gen system? Does the PS3 get docked money because it's a huge fatass?

There's no way to ever get on an even ground. And there never will be. A coupon from overstock.com being factored against two consoles that about 10 and 12 days old respectively makes no goddamn sense anymore than it does to say "Well it costs $60 to get Motorstorm, but the Wii comes with Wii Sports free, meaning it is $110 savings right there."

Now I don't know if the sky in your world is psychedelic and if The Man doesn't keep you down because you are too busy eating lollipops that grow on trees, but 'round these parts, this argument has grown stale because not everyone has the time, money, or patience to be able to own all three consoles. Two is expensive enough. I know there will be multiplatform owners, and that's cool and all that they can afford it, but I can't, and I imagine a lot of people at cheapassgamer.com can't either.

And that is why this thread is a waste. The only irony here you could have capitalized on - which you didn't - would be to compare my ranting as a big as waste a time as the premise this thread rests upon.

But you didn't. So no point for you.

So let's propose something we can honestly argue and be productive in. Which white do you like better? The 360's or the Wii's?

I like the Wii's white. Plus the system starts with a W. That's like double white points right there. You fail again, Microsoft.

Spades22
11-29-2006, 11:45 AM
Ughh what about the hefty 150 dollars is it? To actually get online going with the 360...

mykevermin
11-29-2006, 12:14 PM
wordwordotherword

Some of what you're saying seems to suggest that, as a result of human randomness (at least in the sense of how we rationalize our purchasing decisions), there's no way to compare the systems. Your "$110 in savings for buying Wii" is evidence of that.

However, if that's truly the case, then we would expect consoles to sell in completely equal and random amounts. The fact is, that never has happened, and never will. (now, I know you're not arguing this, but keep yer yap shut, I'm getting to it. be patient).

The fact is, many systems failed, and failed miserably. The 3D0, Jaguar, Saturn (yes, the Saturn), and the Dreamcast all died prematurely (I'm reluctant to leave out Neo-Geo, but I will). So did the N-Gage. Other than the DC, what did they all have in common? Yes, they were crazy fucking expensive. Crazy fucking expensive.

It was a relative "crazy fucking expensive," however. People were paying $200 for launch systems from NES on, and all of a sudden NEC wants $350+ for a goddamned CD-ROM? 3D0 wants $700? Someone on the internets once said "NO WAI!!!" and I concur.

Since the N64/PS1 era, console prices have been creeping up. Xbox was $300 at launch, PS2 was $300 (or $250, I think). The 360 upped the ante with the premium pack, at $400.

The important point is that we are a consumer base who no longer cap out our maximum purchases at $200-$250. Fifteen years ago, the price of the Wii would not have seemed like a bargain; it would have seemed like what you would expect to pay for a Nintendo console.

In 2006, that price is goddamned *special*, for nostalgia reasons (for the eleven people that think it's so cute that Ninty releases all their systems at the same price), for value reasons (BC that trumps the 360, free online, VC, yadda). That's the difference. It is seen as the value, not as the standard.

Now, what I'm *not* saying is that this suddenly makes the market prepared for a $600 console. What I am saying is that the gap between $200 and $700 (or $500 for Saturn, right?) is not what the gap is today. I'd argue that the 360's sales show people are willing to spend $300-400 without getting outraged, where they weren't a decade or so ago. The gap between what people are willing to pay and what's considered "outrageous" has narrowed.

The PS3 launching at $1000 would have killed it, because that's outrageous. Even for a company with a reputation and strong brand identity as Sony and Playstation. At $500-600, it's more palatable to some, and indicative of the market's changing.

So, what I'm taking the long way at getting at, as regards Strell's post, is there are ways to compare consoles relative value. It's by no means as easy as "console X is $300, console Y is $600, console Z is $250" equations. Extra controllers, online, BC, downloadable arcade (sony's sucks my tonsils thus far), and something else (among others) contribute to what people see as valuable.

That something else is the forseeable future of the system. This can be measured (messily) in the public attitude towards the system, sales, and developer interest. The 360 is the "medium" cost system, but nobody would buy it if nobody were developing for it. So it would have no value relative to the PS3 if that were the case. It's not, but that's where human error comes in. Some people get a gamer boner talking about Gears of War, others Cooking Mama, and others still DMC4.

Now, the basic gist of what I'm saying is that these three consoles *can* be compared in terms of value, but you're fulla shit if you think just sheer numbers can be included. You want to operationalize (make a numerical scale of) customer sentiment towards each system, amount of time spent playing each system per day/week, and all kinds of other very very very sloppy measures. Then you'll find value in it. The shitty thing about this is that you can't get half of these measures until all the consoles are saturated amongst consumers, so it's all after the fact explanations. You can use that to predict future sales, but not initial sales.

Now, as for I? Fuck y'all, I'm just glad I finally found a classic controller this morning. I've wasted enough time typing this shit out.

CocheseUGA
11-29-2006, 12:18 PM
2. You claim that the 360 will have a price drop, yet you have no proof of said price drop.

Robbie Bach basically said it was coming. I'm guessing late April.

Demontooth
11-29-2006, 01:11 PM
I want all three.

trip1eX
11-29-2006, 01:17 PM
YOu forgot to add the HD-DVD player to the cost of the 360 and the cost of a new game to both the PS3 and 360. And add the cost of wi-fi to the 360 and $500 PS3 too. OH and add the cost of a hi-def dvd player to the Wii. I guess the cheapest one might be the PS3. :P



Anyway the systems this time around all have their own cost advantages in one way or another.

fred_h_haddad
11-29-2006, 01:18 PM
Nintendo Wii is not as Cheap as people think it is
Wii $250 + $40 Wiimote + $20 NunChuck + $30 Component Cable (Rare atm, even sold one on ebay for $160) = $340 Why would I want all that other crap? I never had a Remote or Nunchuck or Component for my PS2 or Gamecube. I don't need them for the Wii either.

So $250 is what I pay.
($230 if you subtract the freebie game nintendo gave us)
Don't append on a bunch of other crap that we don't need.
That's not accurate.



TRIVIA - The Atari 2600 was $300 in the 1970s. That's $650 in today's dollars.

Nintendo ES or Sega MS would be $500 in today's dollars.

cochesecochese
11-29-2006, 01:41 PM
This thread would have completely sucked if not for Kuros' dancing Ironsword avatar. Which I've ganked.

Thankyou Kuros!

CocheseUGA
11-29-2006, 02:15 PM
Why would I want all that other crap? I never had a Remote or Nunchuck or Component for my PS2 or Gamecube. I don't need them for the Wii either.


You've never played one, have you?

fred_h_haddad
11-29-2006, 02:50 PM
You've never played one, have you?

Nope. Hence my question - Why would I want all that extra, non-necessary crap? Doesn't the Wii already include a controller? Amazon.com says yes.

So I don't need to buy anything else.

Therefore the Wii price is only $250.

lordwow
11-29-2006, 03:12 PM
Nope. Hence my question - Why would I want all that extra, non-necessary crap? Doesn't the Wii already include a controller? Amazon.com says yes.

So I don't need to buy anything else.

Therefore the Wii price is only $250.

You haven't lived until you've played some 2-Player Wii Tennis.

Kuros
11-29-2006, 03:26 PM
This thread would have completely sucked if not for Kuros' dancing Ironsword avatar. Which I've ganked.

Thankyou Kuros!

Haha, you are welcome.

shipwreck
11-29-2006, 03:31 PM
Shipwreck's absolutely non-biased completely applicable breakdown of the system costs:

:360:
Xbox 360 Premium - $0 You should have all won a Premium System from Mountain Dew as I did.
2 Games - $0 You got these for free with the Mountain Dew Bundle.
Extra Wireless Controller - $25 Always use your GameRush credit that you've built up for approximately 50% off retail.
Year of Xbox Live - $12 Definitely spring the extra $12 and buy the year of Xbox Live. Meijer happily pricematched the $20 misprinted ad and EB gladly gave me $8 back for the extra headset that came with it.
Total Cost for Pimped out Xbox 360 Premium System - $37

:wii:
Wii System - $125 Use GameRush credit of course.
Extra Wii-mote - $20 Pick this up during your same trip to GameRush to save gas.
Extra Nunchuk - $10 See, what you do is use all that credit that you built up at GameRush over the last year to get this at half-price.
Total cost for non-componentfied Wii - $155

:ps3:
Playstation 3 System By now I'm sure you see the trend. So go to GameRush, use all that stored up credit and walk out the door with one of these. Oh wait, GameRush hasn't even gotten one of these yet, so I don't know, buy it off eBay. Playstation 3 System - $1000 (look for the auctions that contain free shipping for maximum savings!)
Extra controller - $45 Go to Best Buy and grab one of these with a GGC.
Other random shit you probably want to buy - Let's say $375 Let's be honest here, you're going to want a lot of other random shit to get the most out of your system. Maybe you want a game or something.
Total cost for a Playstation 3 - $1420

So to recap, it's fairly accurate to compare the true costs of these systems on the "Shipwreck Scale".

Xbox 360 - $37
Wii - $155
Playstation 3 - $1420

Disclaimer: I would have put a graphic together breaking down the costs even further, but I would have had to bill the time to the Playstation 3 price and I didn't want to skew the results.

botticus
11-29-2006, 03:40 PM
Shipwreck, your scale is whack. We all know that everyone worth their salt flipped their GameRush credit into EB credit at a 100% profit like I did, so the Wii really only costs a total of $77.50. But damn, you can get two 360s for that cost.

lordwow
11-29-2006, 03:41 PM
lol @ shipwreck

CocheseUGA
11-29-2006, 04:17 PM
Nope. Hence my question - Why would I want all that extra, non-necessary crap? Doesn't the Wii already include a controller? Amazon.com says yes.

So I don't need to buy anything else.

Therefore the Wii price is only $250.

Then you aren't going to enjoy it, so the Wii costs you nothing.

Quackzilla
11-29-2006, 04:28 PM
I'm gonna download all three of bittorrent.

PhreQuencYViii
11-30-2006, 06:28 AM
I'll burn all of you them onto CD-R so don't worry.