PS3, Wii, Who cares? Isn't 360 handling Next Gen just fine?

[Maynard]

Please read and respond legitmately I think i make good points. I also hate capitalizing my i's so dont rant on about it.

Now before I even start this let me explain that I'm writing this from a completely unbiased opinion. I have always been a HUGE Sony fan from the first time I tried PS1. I had a Sega Saturn and after I got a PS1 for christmas barely touched it ever again. PS2 was amazing to me also. I remember the having a Dreamcast first and as soon as the PS2 came out and I played SSX for the first time I specifically said "DC will be gone in 6 months". It took a year, but I was definately right. When Xbox came out I bought it for one specific reason, Halo. I had been watching Halo since the day it was shown in the Next Generation magazine (remember that mag?). I was so freaking pumped to play it (although i wanted it WAY more for PC mouse and keyboard duh) so i had to have a Xbox. I remember getting my Xbox playing through Halo in the first night, than playing through legendary for the next 4 months. After that my xbox just sorta became a 8.2 lbs paper weight and I continued to love my PS2, so needless to say you would think I was a huge Sony fanboy and in a way I was, but I've always bought all the new systems the day they came out. Until now...


PS3
The freaking pinnacle of gaming to me was going to be the PS3. I was so pumped for it and had so much faith that it would repeat the launch of PS2, but be even better. While the launch for PS2 wasn't amazing albeit SSX, the rest of the game were just ok. Tekken rocked and SSX rocked thats all we needed. So needless to say when I was waiting for PS3 I had high hopes even though I really enjoyed my 360. The first news we saw was the controller. Now I remember seeing it and thinking "wtf is Sony thinking". I remembered back to the PS2 launch and remembered that they had prototypes for their controllers also and just sorta pushed it into the back of my mind. Than the system debuted and I was in love with it. I dont care how big you guys think that thing is, but any of you who appreciate high end home theatre gear like I do knew that it was a gorgeous looking machine. Let alone after watching it taken apart it was fucking amazing too. Than we got to the pricing of it. At first I suffered sticker shock and it reminded me so much of the 3DO I got nervous. When you really look at the price though of what they are offering its really not any different from 360. 360 lets you buy it ala carte and PS3 forces you to invest in the whole deal. The bad came in with the games and services though. Resistance FOM is the ONLY game for the system that would sell me one and so far I can't justify spending $600 on a machine that has one really really cool game, so I though alright well I own some high end TV's and gear i'll get it for a Blu-Ray player and other stuff. Well I think the software so far has really turned me off of that also. No 720p to 1080i scaling? Wtf are you thinking? I honestly dont know who lost their job over that decision but it better have happened. Not giving me a HDMI cable with my system? Now i know that HDMI is expensive, but i dont care $600 is really expensive and I for one KNOW how much cables cost to be made and it really wouldn't have been that much more of a loss. No uniformed online service? Live is the one thing that has made me LOVE my 360, I think its worth every god damn penny of $50 and infact i would pay a $100 a year for it if they told me to. The service is rock solid. So what intrigues anyone to get a PS3? Nothing really. Games next year maybe MGS4? I'm a DIE HARD MGS player, but with other exclusives gone who knows where it will end up. Lair also is tempting but still not a system seller. God of War is about the only thing that could really turn me on enough to get a system considering i sank about 100+ hours into that game and beat it on God mode twice.

Wii
I'm not going to say much about Wii except it really isn't all that great. I loved my Gamecube for what it was but i'm sorry guys get off the whole
"ITS COOL TO LIKE THE Wii CAUSE ITS NOT PS3 OR 360 and its NINTENDO"
The nintendo Wii to me is like fucking Apple and there god damn iPODS. I'm just all about being annoyed with the Wii and the worst part is I want one. Yes I want one. I have had the chance to buy one 3 times and can't pull the trigger for Zelda. I'm sorry I've played almost all the games and really once you get over the whole Motion controls, you really dont have all that much. I know i'll get a TON of flack for this from the Nintendo fans, but hey I love my DS and I love all my advance games. Just admit it guys the Wii just isn't all that special right now.


360
The black sheep, I remember telling people how it would fail and yadda yadda. After playing condemned for 24 hours straight one day and playing Fight Night and NBA 2k6 and so many other games I'm truly convinced that 360 is doing everything right for us as gamers this generation. They have a BEAUTIFUL online model that just attracts players from all over the world. We can download demo's for free and actually find out if the game is cool or not. I can talk to my friends over voice chat while playing my games for free (one of my favorite things). It supports file streaming from my PC (although alot of my files are .avis and other stuff that new converter works wonderfully). The controller is the best thing i've ever laid my freaking hands on. Gears of War was EVERYTHING it was supposed to be and i was a huge Naysayer on that game. I'm sure Halo 3 will be amazing even though i really dont like halo anymore at all (ahem Half life 2 fucking owned it). The support from the industry is there. What doesn't the 360 do that you would want it to? I pretty much can't think of anything honestly that MS is doing wrong and I hate to say it but I can't imagine anyone hurting them in this generation.

Could sony become the new Sega?
Will Nintendo just continue on like it has, probably.


Old Sony Fanboy out....

[6669]

360? You are sooooo 2005 :lol:
Nah, I dont have any of those 3 (but I'm getting a Wii for Christmas), so I dont know yet.

[scsg75]

holy crap. I agree with almost everything you said. Except if I were able to find a PS3 or Wii right now, I'd buy them because I have to have everything that's new hardware wise despite the lack of games for them at this point (specifically PS3) regardless of price or how much I'll actually play them.

[thagoat]

right now 360 owns ps3. i cant see that changing for at least a year. i have a ps3 bundle on the way, but im really not all that pumped up. at this moment, id give the wii the nod over the ps3 as well.

[schuerm26]

What doesn't the 360 do that you would want it to?

Motion sensing controls

You have one major flaw in your WII argument. You don't "get over" the motion sensing controls. It isn't a gimmick. It is an entirely new way to control the games, and from what i have played (Wii Sports, Red Steel and Call of Duty 3), I like it a hell of a lot more than i do using a standard controller. That isn't something I (and i would venture to guess most people) "get over". That doesn't mean the other method of controlling doesn't have it's place, I just think you are taking the motion sensing controls WAY to lightly.

[Derrick Barra]

Wow, I'm exactly like you are, except I pulled the trigger and purchased that Wii. And while there aren't many games that excite me yet (just Zelda and VC is enough for now though) theres a crapload of games coming out for it in the future.

But yeah, Xbox 360 is by far my favorite system right now. And to think I was telling everyone last year about how the PS3 was going to rape it (after E3'05). Wii60 FTW!

[BIG5]

If you like shooters, I'm sure you're happy with GoW. I don't. I want to play Zelda, so I want a Wii. And when MGS4 is out, I'll want a PS3. Until then, I'll be playing DS and PS2.

[botticus]

If you're happy with the games and the experience that the 360 provides for you, then by God, it's just fine for you. The only "flaw" in your argument is that it's an opinion piece that means people who share your opinion will agree, people who don't, won't.

[jkam]

I agree with you for the most part. I have a PSONE and a PS2 and I really don't see any reason to pick up a PS3. I already have the Wii and I'm thinking I will most likely go with a 360 over a PS3 this time around. I want to play MGS4 too but not that badly. It's a combination of the price, the last minute addition of the motion controls, the not yet seen online, and the lack of rumble. Things can change once more games come out but if I had to choose today it would be the 360.

As for the Wii I don't see why everyone gets so angry when people like it. I consider myself a Nintendo fan even though I never owned a SNES or a N64 during there life cycles. I own a N64 now. I did however really enjoy the Gamecube and so far the Wii rocks. It seems to me when people defend Nintendo other people take that as they hate the 360 and the PS3. I would defend Nintendo and their choices but that doesn't mean I hate the other consoles.

[The Mana Knight]

No, I disagree. I've been a Sony fan and I still am. I want a PS3 more now since my 360 is a piece of shit and died on me officially (similar to my Xbox which died too many times). My Sony and Nintendo platforms always work. One thing MS has done wrong is build hardware that fails in a short time, and it should have a 1 year warranty (like Sony and Nintendo).

All I gotta say is that unless you like FPS/shooters, sports, and racing games, the 360 lineup isn't really appealing right now. PS3 will at least get all the Sony franchises I want, on PS3, which is a plus. I rather pay an extra $100 to get stuff I like, rather than me cheap and get stuff I don't like as much. IMO, the PS3 isn't too much at all, only $100 more than a 360 (I say $100 because the $500 model is pretty good, unlike the cheaper 360 model).

I don't care much about the Wii, but that has to do with the N64 being the biggest disappointment ever to me and the Gamecube wasn't a whole lot better.

[furyk]

So rather then reading your whole post, I decided to read the Wii section since I was curious about what you had to say about that. In that you write that you hate iPods, that most people are into Nintendo because it's the cool thing to do (and not the 20 years of great games behind them) and that Nintendo is not that great once you get over the controller. The reason why you'll get flack from Nintendo fanboys is that your post is "The 360 is the best because the Wii has a gimmick controller that'll be boring after a few hours".

Then I read the rest of the post. Essentially it's the same bullshit flame bait we've been seeing for weeks from the 360 fanboy camp. Resistance looks cool, but it's not worth $600. The 360 is the best because I can't remember the huge amount of broken consoles, the fact that Microsoft went nearly a year without releasing a first party title, crappy BC support, downloadable content rape, disproportionate amount of FPS/Sports/Racing to everything else, and the fact it's still $100 more expensive then a PS2/Xbox at launch and the games are $10 more. To put it in Internet terms, your post is made of fail.

Edit: And I don't hate the 360. I like the 360. It's got a lot of fantastic titles out for it right now. I'm just sick of anyone proclaiming console A is perfect and console B is inferior because of this reason. Wii has medicore to shit graphics for 90% of the games, and the PS3 is $600 and has very little to justify that price as games (don't even get me started on Blu-Ray).

[FlipSide]

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My Sony and Nintendo platforms always work. One thing MS has done wrong is build hardware that fails in a short time, and it should have a 1 year warranty (like Sony and Nintendo).


LoL ever heard about the PS2 DRE debacle? Where Sony was charging $100 for them to fix you PS2? Yeah that was when Sony was so up their ass. I have gone thru 3 PS2 to get a working one that didnt give DREs. I even had to hunt down a specific model. Even the slim PS2 have problems reading the older Ps2 games, and its suppose to be the "NEWER" model.

[whoknows]

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LoL ever heard about the PS2 DRE debacle? Where Sony was charging $100 for them to fix you PS2? Yeah that was when Sony was so up their ass. I have gone thru 3 PS2 to get a working one that didnt give DREs. I even had to hunt down a specific model. Even the slim PS2 have problems reading the older Ps2 games, and its suppose to be the "NEWER" model.
He said HIS Sony and Nintendo platforms have never given him problems.


And I agree with most of what he said, I'd gladly pay that extra money to get the system with the games I want instead of buying the cheap system and not getting much enjoyment out of it.

BTW, only my first PS2 broke and that was my fault that it did. My second one hasnt ever given me a single problem.


EDIT: And this topic should really be made a year from now to see what everyone thinks about the new consoles after they've been out for awhile, not judging them after less than 2 weeks.

[MightySlacker]

Motion sensing controls

You have one major flaw in your WII argument. You don't "get over" the motion sensing controls. It isn't a gimmick. It is an entirely new way to control the games, and from what i have played (Wii Sports, Red Steel and Call of Duty 3), I like it a hell of a lot more than i do using a standard controller. That isn't something I (and i would venture to guess most people) "get over". That doesn't mean the other method of controlling doesn't have it's place, I just think you are taking the motion sensing controls WAY to lightly.

Yeah right. You seem to be forgetting about the DS, which 100% pure gimmick and once people got over the whole cheap stylus controls, they system was exposed as a crappy sham with equally crappy games.

What? The DS proved all the gimmick naysayers wrong and is phenominal worldwide success? Nevermind then.

Dave

[lokizz]

yeah as far as consoles go i think the 360 has it more on the ball so far. they need to regulate on ea about how they run their online transactions and im not too fond of some of their other sales practies when it comes to online sales of game stuff but eh they have the lead right now in my opinion but its slipping due to the wii's strange appeal to people.

[RelentlessRolento]

Once I saw there were more than 3 paragraphs, I knew it was a rant/vent. To sum up (after not reading the OP), just enjoy gaming and shoot your big toe every time you're worried about other things... like eating ;)

[bmulligan]

What the hell does the OP do for a living so that he can afford "a few high end TV's and tech gear" as well as every system at launch, not to mention playing games day and night, sometimes for 24 hours at a time ?


I love this line as well, "I'm just all about being annoyed with the Wii and the worst part is I want one. Yes I want one." If it's not all that special, then why do you want one ?

[A Happy Panda]

EDIT: And this topic should really be made a year from now to see what everyone thinks about the new consoles after they've been out for awhile, not judging them after less than 2 weeks.

Agreed. I like alot of Maynard's points but you really can't compare the consoles yet, especially 360 and PS3. I've laughed at every stupid mistake Sony has made along the way, but to compare a console that has had a year to establish itself (more games, updates to games, dashboard updates) versus one that JUST launched is something you can't really do, it's just not fair.

And do not underestimate the Wii. Like others have said, everyone thought the DS would be a one-trick pony, but the sales numbers tell all. I personally have really enjoyed the Wii from what I've been able to play and I have come away very impressed. I didn't think it could work, but to my surprise, it works, and works well. The only thing I wish developers would do is give the option to use GC controllers on certain games. That would be icing on the cake.

[VanillaGorilla]

Well, as someone who likes Action games, RPG's, and FPS games, the 360 is certainly looking really damn good. By July of 2007, the 360 might have 5 "Killer Aps".

[dpatel]

I have to agree that the 360 is the best buy right now. However, I remember thinking the 360 wasn't too appealing at launch. The game I was looking forward to, ended up disappointing me (PDZ). It had a pretty good launch, but not what I was expecting from the next-gen. Although, the 360 has impressed me quite a bit in the last year. I expect the same from the Wii and the PS3. Next Fall should be interesting.

[bmulligan]

I like the 360 as well, even though I just got a Wii. But, of course, I like them for different reasons. The region freeness of 360 games and the Play Asia hookup is very appealing to me. The established user base gives me a feeling of security, knowing that developers' won't be losing interest anytime soon.



I can't play Gears of War or Oblivion with my wife. I can play Wii sports with my wife and son - all at the same time - as a family. This is probably the most important aspect of the Wii which no other console can touch with a 10 foot extention cord.

[Quackzilla]

I seriously hope the PS3 does really good and that there is even tighter competition than last generation.

Competition = better games

PS2 got a shitload of awesome games when the Xbox (and Xbox 360) started competing with it. I want to see more games on par with Shadow of the Colossus and shit like that early on this generation.

But really good games will only come if MS and Sony are in close competition.

[Dezuria]

I really don't see what the 360 could offer me, aside from the retro style games on Live Arcade. I don't care for FPS games.

The Wii will give me the unique games only possible on the Wii and naturally, Nintendo made games such as Mario, Zelda and Metroid...

The PS3 will give me the oodles of RPGs, quirky Japanese games, and big name titles.

[Duo_Maxwell]

First I'll start by saying I agree in part with what you say, but I'lld end with my real opinion on the whole "console wars" subeject. However to me it seems like the only decent standout reason you gave was Live, and IMO Live has only become interesting because they've had many years to tweak it and copied the iTunes formula to an extent.

Your other reasons for liking it so seem a little less convincing to me. Yes Gears of War kicks ass, but it was released about a year after the console came out. Launch games like Condemned and NBA 2k6 were fun, but did nothing to stand out and were obtainable for other platforms (ie not a launch exclusive), The controller is pretty damn similar to the Controller S was, and while nice for FPS there's some games where it a pain in the ass (fighting games), then again no controller has ever been perfect IMO (saturn came close though). Voice chat while playing games isn't a widely used or even great feature. Every single person on my friends list only uses voice chat while playing multiplayer (which isn't free), maybe my friends suck but I'm sure some people have had the same experience. As for live, it has some excellent features, I won't deny that, but it does have some faults as well. And keep in mind that, overall, the majority of console owners still don't game online. And your end argument that the 360 handles everything fine and has no faults, is that fanboy in you emerging again. There's a small list of things I wish MS would do with the 360 despite how much I like mine, it's definately not perfect.

So, while I actually agree with you that the 360 is currently the best bang for your buck and I am a proud owner of one for nearly one year now, I think your reasons are kinda weak besides Live and I think you've jumped the gun. I don't even own a Wii or PS3, but I do know those consoles will improve themselves over the next year just like the 360 has done. Will it be enough to out manuevuer the 360 in the top spot? I dunno, maybe, maybe not, but I think this debate (honestly I don't think the Wii should be in this debate at all, it's not really a competitor on same field) can wait another 52 weeks for a more accurate comparison. Just because the 360 is good fit for you doesn't mean it fits everyone else in the same way.

Put simply, the belief that the 360 is an end all solution for this gen and should be the only player on the court is something I cannot agree with. Personally, I like having 2 or 3 systems out there because it gives me more options as a gamer, after all that's what the hobby of gaming is all about IMO. These are all just opinions, yours, mine, theirs, the real question is why care about those opinions? The only real important thing in gaming is to play whatever it is you enjoy otherwise gaming will probably just be a waste of your time...

[Maynard]

I am completely speaking from an unbiased opinion guys. I really just think that for the moment what is the pull of any of the other systems to get them? 360 is just doing everything right for me at the moment and the other systems dont offer up anything that is compelling enough to jump ship. I will probably get a Wii though. SSB online? I think so.... As long as Nintendo can provide online with all of there games we seriously have the two best consoles in the world. Its just unfortunate that Sony cant pull anything out of there hat yet to make me want one more.

Oh and someone asked what I did as far as getting high end stuff and the such. I work high up in a corporation and have good contacts for high end home theatre equipment.

[RelentlessRolento]

I am completely speaking from an unbiased opinion guys.


In reality, there's no such existing 100% unbiased opinion. It's humanly impossible.

[Zen Davis]

I'm simply not investing in a 360 because of how it constantly dies. I like my machines to work. I love my Wii and believe that this time next year, the PS3 will be spanking the the 360 in overall gameplay and so that's where my money will go.

EDIT: I'm not saying the PS3 will be perfect, but after hearing people be on their fifth 360, it's just not worth it.

[Sarang01]

Maynard you idiot you realize MS has ignored games like me and Rolento for the most part who prefer Japanese DEVELOPED games as well as the majority of console owners who want them. Only lately has MS got their head out of their ass a little more about it getting exclusive Mistwalker product. Seriously don't try blowing smoke up my ass. Even with Mistwalker MS clearly ignores encouraging developers to bring Japanese developed games on the 360 in Japan over here. Even further the ONLY 3rd party Japanese developed game I've seen brought over here so far is eNCHANT arM, known as Enchanted Arms over here.
Now you may argue that's not so much as issue because PS2 also had games that never came out over here as well but you're missing a crucial point. This point is that the selection of Japanese developed product for the 360 is very scant to begin with so ANYTHING to be brought here from there would be a step in the right direction. This would especially help to convince the average gamer that the 360 is a more well rounded system than what it seems to be in the comments above, before me.
If you're arguing the 360's library in general, non-region restricted, it's looking better for Eastern product but by NO MEANS great though there is some desirable product.
Btw before you argue most gamers don't care about those Japanese games I'm getting Tengai soon even though it's all in Japanese as well as getting the Asian version of "Blue Dragon" and I'm hoping it's subbed. If not at least I don't have to worry about getting a dub shoved up my ass by MS like how they fucked the gamers here with the American version of N3, dub only.

[A Happy Panda]

I'm simply not investing in a 360 because of how it constantly dies. I like my machines to work. I love my Wii and believe that this time next year, the PS3 will be spanking the the 360 in overall gameplay and so that's where my money will go.

EDIT: I'm not saying the PS3 will be perfect, but after hearing people be on their fifth 360, it's just not worth it.

? I swear this was addressed like five posts ago. Did another person forget about the infamous PS2 DRE? Failures happen. I've had the good luck to not have any of my consoles fail on me....except the PS2, but that was about 3 years into owning it and I got it replaced.

[jollydwarf]

PS3, Wii, Who cares? Isn't 360 handling Next Gen just fine?

I'm sorry, I didn't read the topic post (so therefore I can't be pissed about all the uncapitalized "Is") as I'm too tired right now, but the answer, I opine, is "Yes." For now, anyway.

The Wii, of course, is "New Gen", as coined by Nintendo. Yes, that's spin, but it's also true. I got a Wii on Launch, thanks to a Gamestop preorder. As pessimistic as I can get about the current projected lineup for it in the coming year, I still feel like I'm going to have fun with it in its own niche. I'm still going to play my very untrendy 360 the bulk of 2007, and probably beyond. The Wii will be for whenever I 'shift gears' (buh-dum!), whether that's for a couple hours or a solid month.

As much as I feel the owning the Wii doesn't contradict being fine with the 360 indefinitely, I have that little of an urge to even contemplate owning a PS3 anytime soon. I'm getting the $600 version if/when I get one (albeit hopefully after Price Drop #1), and I'm going to need about a half-dozen great* exclusives for me to justify the purchase. How long is that going to take? The end of 2007? At the earliest. Unlike many Wii fans, I'm not going to start listing every single fucking exclusive I can find and essentially imply that said exclusivity automatically equals 'worth owning'. I mean, Lair ain't exactly pumpin' my 'nads right now, and Heavenly Sword seems like a good game that everyone wants to be so much better than it'll probably end up.

So, yeah, anyone who wants a 'next-gen' experience and scoffs at the 360 right now is either a fanboy or severly undereducated. Unfortunately, those two categories are why Sony will probably win again...if only by a field goal this time. (Gotta work that sports metaphor in as the "Madden Meatheads" will have a lot to do with their eventual success, too.)

*--From what I'm hearing, Resistance is NOT "great" and probably won't have significant legs come the PS3's one-year anniversary.

[xghostsniperx]

The reason the 360 can't handle the next gen is the lack of variety in games. Last gen, people would exaggerate and say "All Xbox has is shooters/FPS anyways" since many high-profile games were shooters/FPS. But now with the 360, most of the great games coming out ARE shooters. Sure, I have Oblivion, Viva Pinata, and Kameo, but there's so many shooters out that it has become the ideal genre for developers. Call of Duty 2/3, Perfect Dark Zero, Gears of War, Battlefield--there's just so many shooters.

To handle next-gen gaming with one console is tough. If Microsoft wanted me to buy solely their console, they'd need to figure out how to get more RPGs (Final Fantasy, Suikoden, Shin Megami Tensei) and more obscure or original games (Okami, Katamari Demacy, etc). I think MS is doing better than last gen, but I'll be buying a PS3 to complement my 360 and Wii once the RPGs start coming out.

[happy]

I still firmly believe the PS2 had by far the best lineup of games this year.

In terms of games I would like to play, wii has zelda and madden (I know it's on everything, but the new control scheme makes it a unique game in my mind) 360 has gow. That's it for exclusives for the whole year (nothing on the PS3).

All that matters to me in the end is where all these companies now working for PS2 decide to go, and that's what the next year or two will tell us. My assumption now is that with no 360s selling in japan, they will either stick with sony or go to wii.

[Number83]

I love my 360. I have not had one issue with it since launch (touches wood). And the games now are beginning to show thier potential. I think 2007 will be the year that it will shine brightest.

I cannot comment on the Wii, as my wife won't let me open it until Christmas, but I'm an old school gamer dating back to the NES, and Nintendo has never disappointed me yet. Why would they start now?

As for the PS3, I don't know. With the death of exclusivity, save for first party titles, I really think that I don't need one. After all, the 360 titles will have been in development for a year+ on most games...enough time to start squeezing all they can out of the hardware, which in all fairness, is pretty impressive right now. Also there isn't an established new DVD format yet. And the price is cost prohibitive. I'll re-evaluate after one or 2 price drops when I finally pick one up.

Just my 2 cents...

[rajchakrabarti]

just buy whatever makes you happy.

[SpecTrE3353]

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LoL ever heard about the PS2 DRE debacle? Where Sony was charging $100 for them to fix you PS2? Yeah that was when Sony was so up their ass. I have gone thru 3 PS2 to get a working one that didnt give DREs. I even had to hunt down a specific model. Even the slim PS2 have problems reading the older Ps2 games, and its suppose to be the "NEWER" model.

Sony tried to charge me $130 to have my PS2 fixed 9 months after I bought it and it stopped reading discs. I told them I wasn't paying and they called me back 30 minutes later and offered to do it for free.

[MadFlava]

I've been debating how I'm going to jump into Next Gen for a while. Getting a Wii is a given for me because it's so different than the other two consoles. I usually only support 2 consoles for each generation. So I'm torn between picking the Xbox 360 or the PS3. The PS3 is a graphical powerhouse and has the usual exclusive titles (Final Fantasy 13, etc.) but the 360 just seems to have it's act together much better this time around. With XBL and XBLA I don't think Sony can match what Xbox is doing online. After PS3 disasterous launch, I'm leaning toward the 360 but it changes daily for me which one I'll pick up later down the road.

[itachiitachi]

PS3, Wii, Who cares? Isn't 360 handling Next Gen just fine?


Nope

[The Mana Knight]

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LoL ever heard about the PS2 DRE debacle? Where Sony was charging $100 for them to fix you PS2? Yeah that was when Sony was so up their ass. I have gone thru 3 PS2 to get a working one that didnt give DREs. I even had to hunt down a specific model. Even the slim PS2 have problems reading the older Ps2 games, and its suppose to be the "NEWER" model.No, Sony platforms don't have many problems are they are way over blown. Although, I was talking about my situation, where a Sony console/handheld has never broke on me. I've played my PS2 for over 1300 days in a row, and it STILL works every time I put a game in.

[shipwreck]

No, Sony platforms don't have many problems are they are way over blown. Although, I was talking about my situation, where a Sony console/handheld has never broke on me. I've played my PS2 for over 1300 days in a row, and it STILL works every time I put a game in.

Sony's hardware problems are not overblown. Despite you not having a problem, ask anyone that has ever worked at EB how many PS2's come back defective. I worked at one as holiday help a couple of years ago and it is absolutely amazing how many broken PS2's were brought into the store.

There's even a local shop around here that sells PS2's with signs on them saying what they can or cannot do (play blue discs, play DVDs, play PS1 games). I laughed the first time I saw him selling them like that but I guess it wasn't worth the time to fix them if you can get people to buy them like that.

[The Mana Knight]

Sony's hardware problems are not overblown. Despite you not having a problem, ask anyone that has ever worked at EB how many PS2's come back defective. I worked at one as holiday help a couple of years ago and it is absolutely amazing how many broken PS2's were brought into the store.

There's even a local shop around here that sells PS2's with signs on them saying what they can or cannot do (play blue discs, play DVDs, play PS1 games). I laughed the first time I saw him selling them like that but I guess it wasn't worth the time to fix them if you can get people to buy them like that.There was a ridiculous number of PS2 consoles owned, which is why there might have been a higher number seen. Many of the launch Xbox consoles with Thomson drives don't even work anymore, but since the percentage of them was small, it may have seen like PS2 had more problems.
The reason the 360 can't handle the next gen is the lack of variety in games. Last gen, people would exaggerate and say "All Xbox has is shooters/FPS anyways" since many high-profile games were shooters/FPS. But now with the 360, most of the great games coming out ARE shooters. Sure, I have Oblivion, Viva Pinata, and Kameo, but there's so many shooters out that it has become the ideal genre for developers. Call of Duty 2/3, Perfect Dark Zero, Gears of War, Battlefield--there's just so many shooters.

To handle next-gen gaming with one console is tough. If Microsoft wanted me to buy solely their console, they'd need to figure out how to get more RPGs (Final Fantasy, Suikoden, Shin Megami Tensei) and more obscure or original games (Okami, Katamari Demacy, etc). I think MS is doing better than last gen, but I'll be buying a PS3 to complement my 360 and Wii once the RPGs start coming out.I agree. Most all the great 360 games are shooters. I've been trying to think of good 360 games that area appealing, but most everyone is a shooter. Next year does look a little better, but I'm going to need a PS3 and a Wii to balance my gaming out.