SON OF A BITCH.

[redgopher]

You guys remember that dumbass that bought the new copy of FFXI for PC from me, then told me all he got was a modem? For some reason, those funds are being reversed because they are fradulent...

I AM GOING TO KILL SOMEBODY.

[ex0]

A modem? WTF? Tell him to send it back to you.

[CTLesq]

That is outrageous.

[PsyClerk]

How did he pay? I got ripped off when I sent some dude $35 for Onimusha 3 via PayPal (bought on eBay), and PayPal couldn't get that money back.

[Renzokuken]

Damn thats messed up. My friend once told me a story that a guy once sent a bomb through the mail because he was scammed by an internet seller.

[Aryss]

If the person paying used Paypal and a stolen credit card then Paypal will pull the funds back. The seller gets screwed. I have seen it many times.

[Grave_Addiction]

You guys remember that dumbass that bought the new copy of FFXI for PC from me, then told me all he got was a modem? For some reason, those funds are being reversed because they are fradulent...

I AM GOING TO KILL SOMEBODY.

Wait, so they are taking the money back from you because they are saying you sold a fradulent item or are they taking the money back from you because his original money was fradulent?

[Cornfedwb]

Are they making him return the modem? Or is he sticking with he threw it away?

[sman113]

i had this problem once. I traded with some kid in Canada, but he never sent me his games. So after me calling his house and bitching out his mom and threatening to call the govt for mail fraud, he said he would send me money through paypal. he sent it to me alright -- from "a friend's" account. then two days later i get an email from paypal that says "your money is being taken back because of fraudulent use of another user's account." aka this schmuck used a stolen account to send me money.

Long story short, six months later more bitching and a few borderline stalker calls to his mom, his dad, and his school principle, i got my games back (now used, instead of new) and a couple others to boot.

[thatstoobad]

that happened to a friend, except it was a cd and $60. but yeah, if someone pays with a credit card that is not theirs (often known as "stolen"), paypal takes the money back and credits the card. the worst part is that they don't require that the item be sent back. so my friend was out the $60 plus he couldn't get the cd back.

[PsyClerk]

the worst part is that they don't require that the item be sent back.

Uh...they don't require it because they can't require it. If someone stole my credit card and used it to send money for an item via PayPal, I sure as hell am not responsible for whatever was sent in return. It sure as hell wouldn't have been sent to me anyways.

[redgopher]

You guys remember that dumbass that bought the new copy of FFXI for PC from me, then told me all he got was a modem? For some reason, those funds are being reversed because they are fradulent...

I AM GOING TO KILL SOMEBODY.

Wait, so they are taking the money back from you because they are saying you sold a fradulent item or are they taking the money back from you because his original money was fradulent?

Here is the email:

Dear Customer We Are Screwing Up The Ass,

It has come to our attention that you may be the recipient of potentially
fraudulent funds. We have initiated an investigation into this event. In
the meantime, we have placed a pending reversal on the funds in question
until the investigation is complete. This pending reversal will show as a
deduction in your available balance. In the meantime, you are free to
continue transacting using your PayPal account.


Transaction Date: May 30, 2004 10:48:24 PDT

Transaction Amount: $45.00 USD

Payor's Email: sosnik1@yahoo.com





If you have not delivered the goods or services related to this
transaction, we ask that you delay or stop delivery until our investigation
is complete as you may be liable for the amount in question.

To assist us in our investigation and to determine if you qualify for the
Seller Protection Program, please send an email to
pending-reversal@paypal.com with the following information:

1. The item, service or purpose of the purchase, and the associated value;
2. The name and address given to you by the sender (if an item was
purchased);
3. If shipped, the company used for shipping, date of shipment, and
tracking number for the shipment;
4. Details of any other transactions related to the transaction(s) in
question;
5. A phone number where you can be reached during the day and evening; and
6. Insurance information, if applicable.

Any additional information you have regarding this transaction, such as
email correspondence, will further help us to expedite our investigation.
Solving these cases helps us continue to offer PayPal as a secure and
cost-effective payment service. We appreciate your cooperation and
assistance.

Sincerely,
PayPal Account Review Team
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[redgopher]

Can you hold on one second?

MOTHER SHIT COCK DAMN BITCH rbm WHORE BASTARD JEW smokes GOD DAMN CRAP SHIT poles SHIT GOD DAMN YOU J J E E W W

*gasp*

[jalu6]

i had this problem once. I traded with some kid in Canada, but he never sent me his games. So after me calling his house and bitching out his mom and threatening to call the govt for mail fraud, he said he would send me money through paypal. he sent it to me alright -- from "a friend's" account. then two days later i get an email from paypal that says "your money is being taken back because of fraudulent use of another user's account." aka this schmuck used a stolen account to send me money.

Long story short, six months later more bitching and a few borderline stalker calls to his mom, his dad, and his school principle, i got my games back (now used, instead of new) and a couple others to boot.

did you really call the guys principal? or was that just comic relief, cause thats pretty funny.

[opportunity777]

PayPal will only take the funds back if you have a balance. You can just transfer to your bank account right away, and they can't touch a penny of it.

[ex0]

Could you repeat what exactly the terms of the deal were?

[RBM]

That's great, Red gopher. Way to paint a red bull's eye on your head for any passing moderator. I'm not going to quote your post, so you can edit those words out.

[st0neface]

With how angry you get over things, you have noone to blame but yourself for your utter lack of hair.

[SneakyPenguin]

Heh, that rant sounds just like my friend on a normal day.

Why is it that our society caters to the idiots? He fucked up, it should be his problem, but for some asinie reason, you're getting the blame. Brilliant.

[redgopher]

With how angry you get over things, you have noone to blame but yourself for your utter lack of hair.

*sniff* (pats head)

[danny-o]

You guys remember that dumbass that bought the new copy of FFXI for PC from me, then told me all he got was a modem? For some reason, those funds are being reversed because they are fradulent...

I AM GOING TO KILL SOMEBODY.


AWW2BAD BUH BYE!!!

[redgopher]

That's great, Red gopher. Way to paint a red bull's eye on your head for any passing moderator. I'm not going to quote your post, so you can edit those words out.

Call me Red gopher one more time and I'll cut off your penis, you god damn newbie.

BECAUSE IT'S REDGOPHER, DAMMIT.

[thatstoobad]

the worst part is that they don't require that the item be sent back.

Uh...they don't require it because they can't require it. If someone stole my credit card and used it to send money for an item via PayPal, I sure as hell am not responsible for whatever was sent in return. It sure as hell wouldn't have been sent to me anyways.

well, yeah. i guess that line was kind of obvious and wasn't really necessary to my comment. i included it, however, to emphasize the pain and anguish a seller would go through in a situation such as that. or something.

[redgopher]

the worst part is that they don't require that the item be sent back.

Uh...they don't require it because they can't require it. If someone stole my credit card and used it to send money for an item via PayPal, I sure as hell am not responsible for whatever was sent in return. It sure as hell wouldn't have been sent to me anyways.

well, yeah. i guess that line was kind of obvious and wasn't really necessary to my comment. i included it, however, to emphasize the pain and anguish a seller would go through in a situation such as that. or something.

<--- PAIN'D AND ANGUISH'D

[eldad9]

Can you hold on one second?

[...]

*gasp*

So you're a racist?

[redgopher]

Can you hold on one second?

[...]

*gasp*

So you're a racist?

So you're a dumbass?

Go watch South Park. Are Matt and Trey racist?

[PsyClerk]

But are you Shocked and Awed?

[redgopher]

But are you Shocked and Awed?

I am most certainly PISS'D and UPSET'D.... SHOCK'D and AWE'D as far as Paypal and how much they suck ass if I don't get my damn money back? Yes.. very.

[eldad9]

Can you hold on one second?

[...]

*gasp*

So you're a racist?

So you're a dumbass?

Go watch South Park. Are Matt and Trey racist?

You're right. Obviously I have no right to post here if I don't watch all the same shows you do.

[opportunity777]

You won't get your money back. Like I said next time xfer the money straight to the bank as soon as you get it, and they can't refund it. It's just a lesson learned.

[Cornfedwb]

Because they use racial slurs and have anti-Semitism in South Park... that makes it ok? We're now basing our morality on a cartoon that prides itself on going too far? Well, thats probably the worst thing I've heard today.

[Acrylic]

That's great, Red gopher. Way to paint a red bull's eye on your head for any passing moderator. I'm not going to quote your post, so you can edit those words out.

Call me Red gopher one more time and I'll cut off your penis, you god damn newbie.

BECAUSE IT'S REDGOPHER, DAMMIT.

You're gay, dammit.

[eldad9]

Q: I'm confused about my sexuality. How do I know if I'm gay?

A: If you always threaten to cut off other people's penises, you're gay.

Nah, doesn't really sound right.

[Acrylic]

Q: I'm confused about my sexuality. How do I know if I'm gay?

A: If you always threaten to cut off other people's penises, you're gay.

Nah, doesn't really sound right.

Of course it sounds right.

[Nirvanaguy777]

wow thats messed up

[PsyClerk]

Well, as usual, this thread has gone to places no man has ever gone before. Or at least, he shouldn't go there...IF HE KNOWS WHAT'S GOOD FOR HIM! WHY DON'T YOU EVER LISTEN TO YOUR MOTHER?!?

[RBM]

Call me Red gopher one more time and I'll cut off your penis, you god damn newbie.

BECAUSE IT'S REDGOPHER, DAMMIT.

I dub thee Little Red Gopher. Kin to Charging Gopher (illegitimate son of Paranoid Pinto and Slanted Shaft. --Gary Muledeer). Go...and rant no more, little red gopher. :lol:

[redgopher]

You won't get your money back. Like I said next time xfer the money straight to the bank as soon as you get it, and they can't refund it. It's just a lesson learned.

Yeah, um, I DID. My paypal acct is overdrawn -$45

[sj41]

Can you hold on one second?

[...]

*gasp*

So you're a racist?

So you're a dumbass?

Go watch South Park. Are Matt and Trey racist?YES! :bs: :dunce: :puke:

[punqsux]

y dont you close your paypal account and open a new one?

[redgopher]

y dont you close your paypal account and open a new one?

Will that save me from being screwed out of my money?

[punqsux]

no clue but right now it looks like youre screwed, couldnt hurt to try?

[punqsux]

was this on ebay? if it was u can access his phone number, give that dude a call and show him whats up

[Lil Stinky]

I AM GOING TO KILL SOMEBODY.

I feel your pain! Let us know when you track down this worthless POS so we can join you in your moment of pain giving.

[Lil Stinky]

y dont you close your paypal account and open a new one?

Will that save me from being screwed out of my money?

The bastards probably have that $45 set aside until the investigation is over.

[redgopher]

was this on ebay? if it was u can access his phone number, give that dude a call and show him whats up

On TradeGamesNow. I called him and talked to a 14 year old kid, probably the guy who ripped me off. What's funny is that he is saying its fraudulent even though it was paid by their family's paypal account, sent to their address and their name on the address, their email address..... but they never got the package even though my delivery confirmation shows it was delivered on the 15th of June? Hmm. What a fucker. Im calling them again.

[Tom]

was this on ebay? if it was u can access his phone number, give that dude a call and show him whats up

On TradeGamesNow. I called him and talked to a 14 year old kid, probably the guy who ripped me off. What's funny is that he is saying its fraudulent even though it was paid by their family's paypal account, sent to their address and their name on the address, their email address..... but they never got the package even though my delivery confirmation shows it was delivered on the 15th of June? Hmm. What a shaq-fuer. Im calling them again.
Offer him a replacement XI to make up for it, and send him a mailbomb. Also, next time you call ask to speak to the head of the household like you are a telemarketer, when he hands the phone over tell the shaq-fuer's parents.

[yeahokthenfu]

Damn that sucks hardcore yo

[redgopher]

Guess what?

I gave Paypal all the information they wanted. Name and address, phone number, transaction date, shipping information, tracking information, item sent, value, and so on and so forth.

They just reversed the god damn transaction. I am so fucking pissed right now.

I am absolutely certain that their stupid fucknut of a god damn kid paid me for this fucking thing and now their parents are like "bleh bleh this isnt ours bleh bleh" and he lied to me on the god damn phone. This is complete bullshit.

Here it is people. proof you should never use paypal outside of ebay. NEVER.

[Pylis]

Ladies and gentlemen, may I present Exhibit A in Super Online Fun Land Adventures: Reasons Why Pylis is Paranoid About Being Screwed Up the Ass in Online Trades with People He's Never Met, Tentacle Penetration Party V.

Really man, it sucks that this happened to you. Not that it matters, but my fingers are crossed for you to get some form of compensation.

[doraemonkerpal]

Really man, it sucks that this happened to you. Not that it matters, but my fingers are crossed for you to get some form of compensation.

same here. it's stupid that those parent's won't hold their kid responsible for mail fraud. :evil: if they let him get away with it, they're bad examples for the kid to follow.

[opportunity777]

They probably will because most parents these days are too busy at the mall to give a crap about raising kids.

[redrobot]

redgopher you got royally screwed by that little wanker. Definitely call again and talk to his parents (threaten mail fraud charges), and if they don't do anything, make good on your threats.

someone needs to keep these little bastard children in check

[EndlessChris]

You're right. Obviously I have no right to post here if I don't watch all the same shows you do.

Way to miss the point entirely...

[CTLesq]

y dont you close your paypal account and open a new one?

Will that save me from being screwed out of my money?

I think, notice I said think, they don't let you do that. How they prevent you I have no idea, but it is my thought they can.

[jshorr]

As far as Paypal only being able to take funds if you have a balance, that's not necessarily true...if you have a linked bank account they have been known to just take the money out of there.

If the sender and the shipping address from paypal were both verified then you are protected under paypal and you will be reimbursed for any losses of goods due to fraud. So when I am selling something via ebay/paypal and the other person is not verified I won't do it. If the person is verified (which means they have a linked bank account) but the address is not, I try to make contact over the phone to make an attempt to see if the person is legit. You never know, but usually a scamster won't talk to you over the phone/give you a legit number.

The problem with this is that any address that isn't where the person receives their credit card statement is not "verified". I went through this whole thing with paypal of trying to get my job and/or grandmother's addresses verified, because no one is home at my apt. to receive packages. They wouldn't do it nomatter what, this was a few months ago. They needed I think a credit card bill, possibly a utility bill in my name would have done it, can't remember. But since I didn't have those things, the other addresses remain unverified. Some merchants refuse to send anything to any address other than a verified address, so I'm forced to make arrangements to be home or left with a neighbor, etc.

Hopefully this can be helpful for the future.....always check the verification status and when possible see that you are covered under paypal's fraud prevention.

[punqsux]

Here it is people. proof you should never use paypal outside of ebay. NEVER.

www.paypalsucks.com

[snotknocker]

Redgopher, correct me if I'm wrong. did'nt you send the guy the game packaged in a modem box. He got the goods and threw the box with game in it in the garbage because he thought it was a modem. Then contacted you and said he was not paying cause he never got the game just a modem. This deal stunk like shit from the get go. You should have expected some crap like this.

[CTLesq]

Redgopher, correct me if I'm wrong. did'nt you send the guy the game packaged in a modem box. He got the goods and threw the box with game in it in the garbage because he thought it was a modem. Then contacted you and said he was not paying cause he never got the game just a modem. This deal stunk like shit from the get go. You should have expected some crap like this.

I disagree. The material used to ship the item should have had no bearing on what the buyer THOUGHT he was getting. The buyer made an assumption based on the packaging. Had the package come in a FedEx envelope, it would be reasonable, based on the thought process of this buyer that he could claim he was receiving shipping supplies from FedEx and not the game promised by Redgopher.

If anyone thinks the buyer isn't sitting there playing the game shipped by Redgopher and laughing about this most trivial of reasons to claim he was defrauded you are sadly mistaken.

CTL

[redgopher]

As far as Paypal only being able to take funds if you have a balance, that's not necessarily true...if you have a linked bank account they have been known to just take the money out of there.

If the sender and the shipping address from paypal were both verified then you are protected under paypal and you will be reimbursed for any losses of goods due to fraud. So when I am selling something via ebay/paypal and the other person is not verified I won't do it. If the person is verified (which means they have a linked bank account) but the address is not, I try to make contact over the phone to make an attempt to see if the person is legit. You never know, but usually a scamster won't talk to you over the phone/give you a legit number.

The problem with this is that any address that isn't where the person receives their credit card statement is not "verified". I went through this whole thing with paypal of trying to get my job and/or grandmother's addresses verified, because no one is home at my apt. to receive packages. They wouldn't do it nomatter what, this was a few months ago. They needed I think a credit card bill, possibly a utility bill in my name would have done it, can't remember. But since I didn't have those things, the other addresses remain unverified. Some merchants refuse to send anything to any address other than a verified address, so I'm forced to make arrangements to be home or left with a neighbor, etc.

Hopefully this can be helpful for the future.....always check the verification status and when possible see that you are covered under paypal's fraud prevention.

Do you know Jack personally? Because I'd like to kill myself. Better yet, I'd like to kill everyone in that house. Can you have him send a gas cannister over there and kill those scamming sons of a bitches?

This is exactly what happened. I got screwed because the address was unverified. I'm pretty sure that the fucktards I was talking to on the phone were the people who scammed me, and the Paypal account wasnt even theirs. So technically, I'm screwed and all I can really do is file mail fraud charges (which I did this morning) and call the Palos Park police... I called them too, but guess what? For some reason, I can hear them but they can't hear me. Fanfuckingtastic.

I mentioned to the father, or as I like to call him, Der Fuhrer, that I had done the same thing when I was 13 or so and got caught, that it was stupid but I can understand what it's like. Basically the only reason I said it was to get him to understand that he can't always trust his kids, you know? Well as soon as I said it, he proceeded to tell me he hoped my parents beat the shit out of me as a child.

Yeah.

Really helps the cops in Palos Park can't hear me. This is so gay.

[ex0]

Sign them up for a crapload of spam sent to their adress, then get like 20 magazine subscription fliers, fill them all out and say bill later and have them shipped to his house, with his name. Make sure to get some naughty 'zines in there too.

[redgopher]

Sign them up for a crapload of spam sent to their adress, then get like 20 magazine subscription fliers, fill them all out and say bill later and have them shipped to his house, with his name. Make sure to get some naughty 'zines in there too.

Word.

[paz9x]

where the hell do these idiots live?
I really hope its within drivign distance, I freakin hate theives, please tell me its in southern cal.

[Mookyjooky]

Just tell us where he lives. One of us are bound to live by him. Then we can visit him and say were you. Us Cags gotta stick together!

[paz9x]

where the hell do these idiots live?
I really hope its within drivign distance, I freakin hate theives, please tell me its in southern cal.

kick down the info on these scumbags.

[redgopher]

He's in Palos Park, IL. He actually got a hold of me on AIM yesterday. Apparantly he thinks he's a hacker with mad skillz cos he managed to get my IP and says he's going to sell it... whatever... anyways he said he is going to send me $55 in cash or something, so we'll see what happens. Payday for him is supposedly late this month, so who knows eh? If he doesnt send it I can always call the police.

[punqsux]

how about posting his aim? im sure he would love a swarm of cags harassing himm about it if he dosent pay up ^^

[peteloaf]

Let me know, 40min from Gary...

Not that I'll do anything bad, I just know front yard that just might get filled with busted toilets & used concrete core samples...

[Alpha2]

I'm all for vengence and stuff but wait to see if he really does screw you over one final time before unleashing the hounds on him.

A potentiall recoverable situation could get turned into an unwinable war if you act too soon.

[redgopher]

I'm all for vengence and stuff but wait to see if he really does screw you over one final time before unleashing the hounds on him.

A potentiall recoverable situation could get turned into an unwinable war if you act too soon.

Exactly what I'm doing. We'll see what happens.

[stocker08]

if he doesnt....tell me his email and i will sign it up with as uch porn as i can find. and i can find quite a lot!

i will also send him an email about a request for Nude Bob Barker pictures. hehehe. evil...........

[paz9x]

He's in Palos Park, IL. He actually got a hold of me on AIM yesterday. Apparantly he thinks he's a hacker with mad skillz cos he managed to get my IP and says he's going to sell it... whatever... anyways he said he is going to send me $55 in cash or something, so we'll see what happens. Payday for him is supposedly late this month, so who knows eh? If he doesnt send it I can always call the police.

blast ! IL is too far for me. Good luck with this douche.

[LoganDX]

Let me know, 40min from Gary...

Not that I'll do anything bad, I just know front yard that just might get filled with busted toilets & used concrete core samples...

picturing that mental picture...... :rofl:

[WeaponX2099]

Pm me the address, I live pretty close, (not close close). Me and my associates maybe able to stamp out justice or vengence for you.

[defender]

You guys remember that dumbass that bought the new copy of FFXI for PC from me, then told me all he got was a modem? For some reason, those funds are being reversed because they are fradulent...

I AM GOING TO KILL SOMEBODY.

Wait, so they are taking the money back from you because they are saying you sold a fradulent item or are they taking the money back from you because his original money was fradulent?

Here is the email:

Dear Customer We Are Screwing Up The Ass,

It has come to our attention that you may be the recipient of potentially
fraudulent funds. We have initiated an investigation into this event. In
the meantime, we have placed a pending reversal on the funds in question
until the investigation is complete. This pending reversal will show as a
deduction in your available balance. In the meantime, you are free to
continue transacting using your PayPal account.


Transaction Date: May 30, 2004 10:48:24 PDT

Transaction Amount: $45.00 USD

Payor's Email: sosnik1@yahoo.com





If you have not delivered the goods or services related to this
transaction, we ask that you delay or stop delivery until our investigation
is complete as you may be liable for the amount in question.

To assist us in our investigation and to determine if you qualify for the
Seller Protection Program, please send an email to
pending-reversal@paypal.com with the following information:

1. The item, service or purpose of the purchase, and the associated value;
2. The name and address given to you by the sender (if an item was
purchased);
3. If shipped, the company used for shipping, date of shipment, and
tracking number for the shipment;
4. Details of any other transactions related to the transaction(s) in
question;
5. A phone number where you can be reached during the day and evening; and
6. Insurance information, if applicable.

Any additional information you have regarding this transaction, such as
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Solving these cases helps us continue to offer PayPal as a secure and
cost-effective payment service. We appreciate your cooperation and
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Sincerely,
PayPal Account Review Team
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DUDE! Calm down and STOP BEING AN IDIOT. If you shipped to his confirmed paypal account and you used tracking then you can be under the seller protection policy. That's what it is for. It's paypals way of protecting sellers in odd cases like this. Just state very planly and kindly to any questions and give them a detailed email giving them all the info they requested. If you dont hear from them in about 10 days email them again. I bet if you follow my advice that in 2-4 weeks you get the money back. This has happened to me at least 5 times. Every time I get the money back. Once it was $600 even.

You are totally being a spaz and I am suprised people here arent giving you advice on how to handle this and just letting you go on and on and on.

[KingDox]

As far as Paypal only being able to take funds if you have a balance, that's not necessarily true...if you have a linked bank account they have been known to just take the money out of there.

If the sender and the shipping address from paypal were both verified then you are protected under paypal and you will be reimbursed for any losses of goods due to fraud. So when I am selling something via ebay/paypal and the other person is not verified I won't do it. If the person is verified (which means they have a linked bank account) but the address is not, I try to make contact over the phone to make an attempt to see if the person is legit. You never know, but usually a scamster won't talk to you over the phone/give you a legit number.

The problem with this is that any address that isn't where the person receives their credit card statement is not "verified". I went through this whole thing with paypal of trying to get my job and/or grandmother's addresses verified, because no one is home at my apt. to receive packages. They wouldn't do it nomatter what, this was a few months ago. They needed I think a credit card bill, possibly a utility bill in my name would have done it, can't remember. But since I didn't have those things, the other addresses remain unverified. Some merchants refuse to send anything to any address other than a verified address, so I'm forced to make arrangements to be home or left with a neighbor, etc.

Hopefully this can be helpful for the future.....always check the verification status and when possible see that you are covered under paypal's fraud prevention.

This is exactly what happened. I got screwed because the address was unverified. I'm pretty sure that the fucktards I was talking to on the phone were the people who scammed me, and the Paypal account wasnt even theirs. So technically, I'm screwed and all I can really do is file mail fraud charges (which I did this morning) and call the Palos Park police... I called them too, but guess what? For some reason, I can hear them but they can't hear me. Fanfuckingtastic.


I don't think he's covered. He already said that the address wasn't covered.

[Thunderscope]

So they can take your money even if you pull it out of your account first?

[redgopher]

As far as Paypal only being able to take funds if you have a balance, that's not necessarily true...if you have a linked bank account they have been known to just take the money out of there.

If the sender and the shipping address from paypal were both verified then you are protected under paypal and you will be reimbursed for any losses of goods due to fraud. So when I am selling something via ebay/paypal and the other person is not verified I won't do it. If the person is verified (which means they have a linked bank account) but the address is not, I try to make contact over the phone to make an attempt to see if the person is legit. You never know, but usually a scamster won't talk to you over the phone/give you a legit number.

The problem with this is that any address that isn't where the person receives their credit card statement is not "verified". I went through this whole thing with paypal of trying to get my job and/or grandmother's addresses verified, because no one is home at my apt. to receive packages. They wouldn't do it nomatter what, this was a few months ago. They needed I think a credit card bill, possibly a utility bill in my name would have done it, can't remember. But since I didn't have those things, the other addresses remain unverified. Some merchants refuse to send anything to any address other than a verified address, so I'm forced to make arrangements to be home or left with a neighbor, etc.

Hopefully this can be helpful for the future.....always check the verification status and when possible see that you are covered under paypal's fraud prevention.

This is exactly what happened. I got screwed because the address was unverified. I'm pretty sure that the fucktards I was talking to on the phone were the people who scammed me, and the Paypal account wasnt even theirs. So technically, I'm screwed and all I can really do is file mail fraud charges (which I did this morning) and call the Palos Park police... I called them too, but guess what? For some reason, I can hear them but they can't hear me. Fanfuckingtastic.


I don't think he's covered. He already said that the address wasn't covered.

Mr. Defender likes to be a late arrival, I see. If you had actually bothered to read the rest of the posts, you would have seen that one.

[LoganDX]

Mr. Defender likes to be a late arrival, I see. If you had actually bothered to read the rest of the posts, you would have seen that one.

ohhhhhhhhhh, Mr. King Defender is gonna get you now. You can't call him a late arrival. :D

[defender]

Well I tried to read most of the ranting on the 4 pages but I guessed I missed the part where you admitted to being the biggest noob ever and shipped to an unconfirmed address from a paypal payment. Maybe you could point out where that was?

Whats your next brilliant move? Buying a new xbox from Nigeria for $50 but you have to send cash?

[defender]

Also to clarify...a confirmed address is different than a verified account. The buyer does not have to be verified at all. You just have to make sure their address is confirmed.