December 2006 Backwards Compatiblity Update (Live, now with 100% more Conker/SCII)

[Sporadic]

New games on the list are:

All-Star Baseball 2005
Aquaman: Battle of Atlantis
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Burnout 3: Takedown (Updated)
Conker: Live and Reloaded
Dead Or Alive Ultimate
Destroy All Humans!
Dynasty Warriors 4
Evil Dead: A Fistful of Boomstick
Indigo Prophecy
Family Guy
Far Cry: Instincts
Incredibles
I-Ninja
Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude
Mortal Kombat: Armageddon
MotoGP
MX Unleashed
Open Season
Pariah
Psychonauts
Rainbow Six: Lockdown
Rapala Pro Fishing
Scarface
Shark Tale
Shenmue II
Soul Calibur 2 (North America only, suck it down commies ;))
Splinter Cell: Double Agent
The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
Ultimate Spider-Man
Wakeboarding Unleashed: Featuring Sean Murray
Whacked!
Winback 2: Project Poseidon
Xiaolin Showdown

http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2006/12/14/december-06-back-compat-update.aspx

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilitygameslist.htm

:applause: Good job MS. Shenmue II, Indigo Prophecy and Psychonauts.

Hopefully the next one will have even more Sega games and Mercenaries

[coolsteel]

Shenmue II?! Hell has Frozen!!!!!!!!!

[orntar]

Psychonauts ftw!

now to find an xbox copy. i have a feeling used coopies will start to move now.

[thrustbucket]

So this is all live as of right now?

[peteloaf]

Just bought Pshyconauts and was waiting for this. (I've already played through on PC...)

Also it's nice that MK:A is on the list. I was holding off on getting too far into this.

BTW people looking for Psychonauts, Kmart has it on clearance. The closest Kmart to me had it for $3.00!!!

[Roufuss]

Where Is Morrowindddddddddddddddddddddd

And Dead or Alive Ultimate is on the list AFTER GoGamer dosen't have it on sale anymore.

I am definitely buying Splinter Cell Double Agent now as the Xbox version is much better than the 360 version.

Awesome update!

[pbates86]

I'm surprised Splinter Cell: Double Agent is on that list, I mean, with there being a 360 version out.

[flybrione]

Best update evar!

Psychonauts
Scarface
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Indigo Prophecy

[Roufuss]

I'm surprised Splinter Cell: Double Agent is on that list, I mean, with there being a 360 version out.

I'm glad it is since the Xbox version has twice as much stuff.

[DiscoDuck8k]

Glad to see Double Agent got added to the list as I plan on getting that version soon.

Still no love for several of my other Xbox games though. :cry:

[zewone]

Looks like I need to pick up Psychonauts and SC: DA.

[DomLando]

Good update but where are the 2-D Fighters?!?

[PenguinMaster]

When does this go into effect? Where did you hear about this?

[Sporadic]

Oh what the hell, they took down the December list

[coolsteel]

Weird, maybe they were planning on it being a christmas surprise

[anomynous]

Scarface= mine

[somahead33]

I knew I should have picked up Psychonauts when i had the chance at ToysRUs. Oh well, time to start looking again.

[PenguinMaster]

You should probably update the title and OP to say it's not active yet.

[lordopus99]

where are the other prince of persia games :(

[Sporadic]

You should probably update the title and OP to say it's not active yet.

Done.

Hopefully it will be up by tommorrow. I really want to go through Shenmue II

[FFMooglestar]

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=950162

No reason not to own this great game now. Extremely cheap and really fun.

Price is only $5.99 at EBGames/Gamestop

[Plinko]

Aquaman? Honestly? Was there that big of a movement to get that piece of crap backwards compatible?

[halfbent]

Good update but where are the 2-D Fighters?!?

Absolutely, I miss my Guilty Gear on Live.

[jtbradford]

Some nice titles in there... I wish they'd add BC for The Bard's Tale in one of these updates. The humor in that game was a riot, although the gameplay wasn't the greatest.

[VanillaGorilla]

Sweet, now more people can see how overrated Psychonauts is.

[hiccupleftovers]

Finally! Yes Indigo Prophecy is on there and the same goes for Psychonauts!!!! I can now play both on my 360!!!

Wakeboarding Unleashed: Featuring Sean Murray this was a fun game. I'll try popping this one in tonight. Does anybody know if the two KOTOR are backward compatible? is Panzer Dragoon Orta compatible as well?

[somahead33]

I can pick up Psychonauts for $17 at Gamefly. Anybody know where I can pick this up cheaper (not ToysRUs as I have already checked there)?

[Sporadic]

Does anybody know if the two KOTOR are backward compatible? is Panzer Dragoon Orta compatible as well?

KOTOR series yes, PDO no.

[hiccupleftovers]

Sweet, now more people can see how overrated Psychonauts is.
:rofl: you're funny.

[hiccupleftovers]

KOTOR series yes, PDO no.

Thanks. Can't wait for the next update. Hopefully it has PDO. At least I can do some KOTOR in the mean time. Is there anyway to transfer or connect the HD from the xbox to a 360?

[LinkinPrime]

Awesome news, thanks Sporadic.

[ryanbph]

Aquaman? Honestly? Was there that big of a movement to get that piece of crap backwards compatible?

it has been mentioned a lot previously, but when they work on a particular game, the similiarities in the code with other games allows for them to be B/C with little to no adjustments. The first b/c list had a barbie game, there was no movement for them to get it b/c, it just happened to work with what they did to get other games b/c

thanks for the info sporadic

[Spybreak8]

Well props to Microsoft, this list will make a lot of people stop bitching ^^ I didn't know SC:DA was better on the xbox?! I also didnt know what was updated when my 360 got updated with my OXM disc^^ Sweetness!

[tgk2044]

Is there anyway to transfer or connect the HD from the xbox to a 360?

not without a lot of work. i'm assuming you'd want to have your gamesaves on your 360? you can't hook up your original xbox to your 360, but i thought there was some complicated way to put your xbox saves onto your 360 involving memory cards and a PC.

[PenguinMaster]

Well props to Microsoft, this list will make a lot of people stop bitching ^^ I didn't know SC:DA was better on the xbox?! I also didnt know what was updated when my 360 got updated with my OXM disc^^ Sweetness!

So now they're giving BC updates to OXM subscribers first too?

[Z-Saber]

Psychonauts? Rawk. And Lockdown? What about plain ol' Rainbow Six 3? That's where it's at.

[2Fast]

Dammit, I should have asked for the Xbox version of MK:A for Christmas instead of the PS2 version. I'm also still waiting for Shaolin Monks to be BC.

[PenguinMaster]

What about plain ol' Rainbow Six 3? That's where it's at.

It's already backwards compatible.

[Staind204]

Looks like a decent update even though I don't own any of these. Whats so good about Psychonauts though? Also how is Scarface? It's too bad Morrowind isnt on there though :(

[Z-Saber]

It's already backwards compatible.Eh, pardon the mistake. I've only had the thing a few weeks and skimmed through the BC list. Must have missed that. Wait, why am I still typing this and not playing RS3?

[Tha Xecutioner]

Pariah and Whacked! FTW

[captainfrizo]

I'm glad Indigo is now going to be BC. I picked it up cheap at Circuit City months ago but since I didn't hook up my original Xbox after we moved I never got around to playing it and I was too lazy to hook it up for one game. I've been debating doing it anyway though just for Indigo. Now I don't have to.

[Brak]

Impressive update.

I sold a bulk of my Xbox collection, though. :lol:

[thamaster24]

Looks like I will finally be picking up MK: Armaggedon

[Apossum]

cool. Looks like I'll finally play Psychonauts. I might have to revisit DoA:Ultimate for lolz.


Stil no capcom fighters though arghhhhh!!!

[jPoD]

New games on the list are:Indigo Prophecy Pariah

:) yayyyyyyy

Next up hopefully:

Marc Ecko's Getting Up
Oddworld Stranger's Wrath WHY THE HELL ISNT THIS ON THERE??? Best XBOX game.
Phantom Dust
The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay This should be on there too. Tied for best xbx game with OSW

Ugh.

EDIT: Oh, and I had PNauts for PS2. I know it's a bit of a new cult-favorite, but honestly, I found it entirely overrated and repetitive. It has NOTHING on the Sly series.

[LinkinPrime]

Sporadic, hope you don't mind but I spread it:

http://www.xboxic.com/news/2123#more-2123

[-Never4ever-]

Nuts, I just got Pychonauts for PS2 too, ah well.

[Sporadic]

Sporadic, hope you don't mind but I spread it:

http://www.xboxic.com/news/2123#more-2123

Yeah, no problem.

[coolsteel]

not without a lot of work. i'm assuming you'd want to have your gamesaves on your 360? you can't hook up your original xbox to your 360, but i thought there was some complicated way to put your xbox saves onto your 360 involving memory cards and a PC.



Yeah , you need to buy a few things to do it though

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/11153/Use-Xbox-Game-Saves-on-Xbox-360/

Sucked it up and bought it, works exactly like it is supposed to. Only thing is the damn saves that can't be transferred to the memory card on the xbox, stuck starting those over

[Trakan]

No Riddick, PoP: TTT, Mercenaries or Shaolin Monks? Lame.

[I AM WILLIAM H. MACY]

Dead Or Alive Ultimate
Destroy All Humans!
Evil Dead: A Fistful of Boomstick
Indigo Prophecy
Family Guy
I-Ninja
Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude
Psychonauts
Scarface
Shenmue II
Splinter Cell: Double Agent
Ultimate Spider-Man
Wakeboarding Unleashed: Featuring Sean Murray
Whacked!
Sweet!!!

I was disappointed by the fact that Scarface was not released on any system I had so I'm most excited for that one

[CAG 79]

SHENMUE II!

Hell yeah!

Would you like to play a game of lucky hit?

[deadite76]

Pretty good list this time around! About time they got Buffy on that list! :) SC:DA is probably the only recent title on the list that I'll actually pick up soon. Been wanting to give it a try since the one for the 360 was a "lacking". Scarface has recieved some good reviews overall, but will probably be around $20 after Christmas. Besides, none can compete with the recent 360 releases!

BTW people looking for Psychonauts, Kmart has it on clearance. The closest Kmart to me had it for $3.00!!!

Damn!! I just got back from Kmart and saw about five copies tagged at $49.95!!

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=950162

No reason not to own this great game now. Extremely cheap and really fun.

Price is only $5.99 at EBGames/Gamestop

QFT

[Scorch]

Psychonauts? Shenmue II? INDIGO PROPHECY!?

God bless you, Microsoft. Indigo is one of the best games I've ever played.

Now fix my fucking 360.

And for those that don't know, SC: DA on XBox is COMPLETELY different from the one on 360. As in almost a completely new game.

Now this gives me a reason to finally pick up Ultimate Spider-Man. DAMN this is a fantastic update!!

[KingDox]

Yeah , you need to buy a few things to do it though

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/11153/Use-Xbox-Game-Saves-on-Xbox-360/

Sucked it up and bought it, works exactly like it is supposed to. Only thing is the damn saves that can't be transferred to the memory card on the xbox, stuck starting those over


Good list, But good lord it took forever to come out.

And man I wish there was an easier way to get your xbox saves on your 360.

[rabbitt]

Psychonauts is good news for me, as it's been on my shelf since TRU clearanced it in the summer.

[bobthecat23]

omfg i want them to make mgs2s BC i bought it at wlamart while ago

[MillerTime2523]

It's a shame since i have none of these games =[

May pick up SC though, thats awesome they made it BC.

[Ultimate Matt X]

Like everyone else, Shenmue 2 is a nice one for me. The only other game I have on there is Ultimate Spider-Man, but it'll be cool to run through that again if I want to.

[lilboo]

Very nice. Now I can pick up Buffy again. I had it with my original xbox.. loved it..but got rid of it with my xbox :(

and for $6? shit.

[Apossum]

SHENMUE II!

Hell yeah!

Would you like to play a game of lucky hit?


Where is Wan chai? can you show me the way to Wan Chai? Where is Wan Chai?

I will probably pick this one up again...put two hours in...and quit again.

[KaneRobot]

Glad that MK:A and Psychonauts are on there, but GOD DAMMIT give us Shaolin Monks already.

[strdr4]

YES!! Shenmue 2. Now put Phantom Dust, Gunvalkerie, Kigdom under Fire, Panzer dragoon orta and I'll porbably get rid of my xbox.

[Monsta Mack]

Here I thought we would never see another update.
Sweet. Good titles to!
Scarface and MK will be mine down the road :)

[doctorfaustus]

dang, some nice games there...
but where is X-men legends and The Warriors?

[cjclifford]

Guess I can buy MK:A, although I was really hoping for a 360 port (for the achievements if nothing else).

[lilboo]

Kinda off topic here..

And it's a stupid question too: Sorry.

If I was playing Buffy for my 360, does the 360 recognize each game..? So if I'm on your friends list, you would see me as "Playing Buffy the Vampire Slayer" ?
Also, would that show up in your gamertag?

Pointless questions.. But I don't know. I don't have any original Xbox games :-P

[lordwow]

No MVP Baseball 2005? Disgusting.

[Viva Las Vegas]

Still no Mech Assault....shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiT!

[Kaijufan]

Kinda off topic here..

And it's a stupid question too: Sorry.

If I was playing Buffy for my 360, does the 360 recognize each game..? So if I'm on your friends list, you would see me as "Playing Buffy the Vampire Slayer" ?
Also, would that show up in your gamertag?
When you're playing Buffy and your friends look at your profile on Live they will see that you're playing Buffy, but it wont show up in your 5 Gamertag games, since only 360 and XBLA games show up in that.

[Staind204]

No MVP Baseball 2005? Disgusting.


Yeah this would actually be pretty sweet. Most of the time EA Sports games suck but the one sport they were good at went college only :(

[shaunLEGEND]

I 3rd all the 2D fighter requests! C'mon guys, i hope you are still sending e-mail requests to: backcomp@microsoft.com

My main concern is Street Fighter: Anniversary Collection

Make it happen CAGs!

[gofishn]

Sweet, I can finally play Shenmue II.

[RelentlessRolento]

wow... first update to be any good. now bring on the 2d fighters >_<

congrads on being 'toku'ed

[RelentlessRolento]

anyone have impressions of Pariah? I heard it was good.

[Scorch]

anyone have impressions of Pariah? I heard it was good.

XBox version looks like crap, PC version is a million times better.. it's a decent game if you can find it under $10

[RelentlessRolento]

oh well...

remember people, supposedly there's still some more stuff on the list.

[jollydwarf]

I know I'm going to hear it about "Well, they shouldn't have fuckin' started runnin' their shit about backwards compatibility if it was gonna be like this!" and whatnot, but it seems like for so many, it's all about the game or two that aren't on the list. Everytime.

Gamers, big subscribers to the Bobby Knight School of Tough Love. Rant 'n' rave about the shortcomings and oversights as much as possible, and when they finally get it right, just begrudgingly say "It's about damned time!!"

[LinkinPrime]

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=950162

No reason not to own this great game now. Extremely cheap and really fun.

Price is only $5.99 at EBGames/Gamestop

Damn its gone. Shoulda jumped on this sooner.

[captainfrizo]

No MVP Baseball 2005? Disgusting.

Yeah, that's the game I want to be BC more than anything else at this point. In my opinion it's about as perfect of a baseball game you'll find. Great gameplay and tons of mini-games and features.

If this game goes BC I'll likely never buy another baseball game again.

[asianxcore]

Thank you Microsoft for DOA: Ultimate and Psychonauts being added.

I held off on buying both for a while, looks like I'll have to pick them up soon :)

[hiccupleftovers]

No Riddick, PoP: TTT, Mercenaries or Shaolin Monks? Lame.

But look on the bright side at what they're giving us this time. Still, having those games not on BC by now is just unexcusable and really unacceptable.

[rly723]

why?!? all i want is nfl2k5 and mvp 2005

[Greetard]

It's like they're trying to avoid every game I own on purpose. fuck.

[spiderdog]

Scarface!

[-Never4ever-]

huh, re-read the list and noticed that SC:DA's on it. Seeing how everyone and their mama sayd that's the superior version, guess I got one more Xb title to hunt down :)

Here's hoping they continue this trend and release a new update every three months.

EDIT oh shat, just re-re-read the list and noticed Shemue 2~! Gotta pick that up for less than $5 at Eb/GS today.

All I need and I'll never need M$ to update every again:

1) Silent Hill 2 - simply because the PS2 version costs too much

2) Panzer Dragoon Orta - The game that MADE me buy an Xbox. I so miss this one :(

3) ESPN NFL 2k5 - fuck madden, this is still the best football game ever made. I could care less that the roster is more than 2 years old. Plus, it's like $3 now :lol:

4) Mortal Kombat Shoalin Monks - The lame version included with MK:A just makes me want to play through this again even more. Get to work on a sequal for 360 that has online co-op Midway!

Sure, you could argue that I can just pick up three out of the two for PS2, but I play PS2 on my PS3, which leads to two major problems: a) the game has a 25% of not being BC (yes, PS3 is going through BC problems too). b) games look worse on PS3 than they originally looked on PS2, plus I can run them in 720p on my 360 :D

[Ebraum]

No Psi-ops or Soul Caliber 2 ?.........Dammit!!!!

[TheRock88]

Shenmue II FTW!!!!

Now I can finally get rid of my Xbox. Other games that I'm glad are now BC are Buffy, Indigo Prophecy, MK Armageddon, Psychonauts, Scarface.

All that's left for me is NFL2K5 and MVP 05.

[mykevermin]

Splinter Cell Double Agent? Great news.

Anyone tried the games from the list yet?

[PenguinMaster]

I know I'm going to hear it about "Well, they shouldn't have fuckin' started runnin' their shit about backwards compatibility if it was gonna be like this!" and whatnot, but it seems like for so many, it's all about the game or two that aren't on the list. Everytime.

Gamers, big subscribers to the Bobby Knight School of Tough Love. Rant 'n' rave about the shortcomings and oversights as much as possible, and when they finally get it right, just begrudgingly say "It's about damned time!!"

I agree. Tons of people are complaining about a game or two they don't have BC, when they have around 300 BC. I still think the 360 easily has the best backwards compatibility due to actually upgrading the games.

Splinter Cell Double Agent? Great news.

Anyone tried the games from the list yet?

I tried Buffy and Indigo Prophecy, nothing works yet. They accidentally leaked the list early.

[VanillaGorilla]

Yeah, that's the game I want to be BC more than anything else at this point. In my opinion it's about as perfect of a baseball game you'll find. Great gameplay and tons of mini-games and features.

If this game goes BC I'll likely never buy another baseball game again.If you've got a capable PC, just go out and buy the PC version. The people at MVPMods.com have made the game timeless, what with new rosters, complete minor league rosters (complete with pictures), and stadium mods that feature realistic advertisment placement!

[mykevermin]

I tried Buffy and Indigo Prophecy, nothing works yet. They accidentally leaked the list early.

crap. danke schoen.

[dserafin1986]

Shenmue II?! Hell has Frozen!!!!!!!!!

OMFG!!!!!!! YESYESYESYES

[Rei no Otaku]

It's like they're trying to avoid every game I own on purpose. fuck.
Same here. I guess it's a good update if you actually own those games, but other than Indigo and Buffy, I don't. And don't plan to.

No Panzer Dragoon Orta means this list fails.

[Chris in Cali]

I'm still waiting for Morrowind, Silent Hill 2, Deus Ex: Invisible War, Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance, Enclave, Otogi, and Beyond Good and Evil. :(

[guyver2077]

too me this is still a lame update.. and i have a feeling it will prob be the last one we get..

atleast shenmue 2 and armegeddon are on the list...

where is :

matrix path of neo
wm21
nfl2k5
soul calibur 2!!!1
panzer dragoon

[nintendokid]

too me this is still a lame update.. and i have a feeling it will prob be the last one we get..

atleast shenmue 2 and armegeddon are on the list...

where is :

matrix path of neo
wm21
nfl2k5
soul calibur 2!!!1
panzer dragoon

Wrestlemania 21...uh, I bet all you want to do is play Goldberg, HUH?! He's in your avatar. Well, I would recommend just dusting off the N64 and playing Wrestlemania 2000 or NWO vs WCW Revenge. Revenge was the best in the series, IMO. It made stellar leaps when compared to the first. Wrestlemania 2k's create-a-wrestler was the only thing that shined. But then again, everyone created overly powerful 5'3" 140lbs wrestlers so it ruined the game quick.

La Parka >>>>> Goldberg
:lol:

...continues off-topic rambling...blah blah sorry

[jollydwarf]

People have got to give up on old (non-extreme) sports games, particularly ones like NFL 2K5 and MVP Baseball 2005, as that would create a conflict of interest with the current franchises and--I'm guessing just this is once, most people will agree with me--in turn cost said franchises sales.

[lordwow]

People have got to give up on old (non-extreme) sports games, particularly ones like NFL 2K5 and MVP Baseball 2005, as that would create a conflict of interest with the current franchises and--I'm guessing just this is once, most people will agree with me--in turn cost said franchises sales.

My response to that would be "What Franchises?"

MVP Baseball NCAA 2007 is only coming out for PS2 due to poor sales of 2006. They don't even have the MLB license.

The same is true of the NFL 2k5, that was the last game of the series before EA got exclusive rights.

Unfortunately for me (and I guess other people on here as well), they were the best two franchises for their respective sports, and I end up playing those instead of upgrading because there isn't a upgrade to the same franchise.

[jollydwarf]

I cynically meant to say that the great old Xbox-gen franchises (i.e. NFL 2K and MVP) would undermine the 360-gen franchises with exclusive rights to those sports leagues (Madden and MLB).

This assertion might have been doubly true last year, but Microsoft reads the boards. They know what the gamers think of what exclusivity gets us. They know most people aren't just talking junk when they say they'd be happy to just play the old shit.

[CaseyRyback]

Wrestlemania 21...uh, I bet all you want to do is play Goldberg, HUH?! He's in your avatar. Well, I would recommend just dusting off the N64 and playing Wrestlemania 2000 or NWO vs WCW Revenge. Revenge was the best in the series, IMO. It made stellar leaps when compared to the first. Wrestlemania 2k's create-a-wrestler was the only thing that shined. But then again, everyone created overly powerful 5'3" 140lbs wrestlers so it ruined the game quick.

La Parka >>>>> Goldberg
:lol:

...continues off-topic rambling...blah blah sorry

Goldberg isn't in WM21. He is in Raw 2 though, which is BC.

[jer7583]

excellent update.. can't wait. I've had a copy of psychonauts sitting in my basement since my original Xbox died. Gotta pick up Indigo Prophecy again too.

[guyver2077]

Goldberg isn't in WM21. He is in Raw 2 though, which is BC.

lmao that a goldberg ott built itself within this topic..

no hes not in the game unfortunately (though ive heard he was originally meant to be on there)

good thing caw let you use theme songs so i created him anyways..

too bad 360 bc doesnt support soundtracks


I GUESS IM JUST SO PISSED ABOUT THIS BC LIST BECAUSE I HAVE OVER 100 XBOX GAMES. IVE NEVER (AND PROBABLY WILL NEVER AGAIN) SPEND SO MUCH ON A SYSTEM.



la parka << goldberg

[mykevermin]

I cynically meant to say that the great old Xbox-gen franchises (i.e. NFL 2K and MVP) would undermine the 360-gen franchises with exclusive rights to those sports leagues (Madden and MLB).

This assertion might have been doubly true last year, but Microsoft reads the boards. They know what the gamers think of what exclusivity gets us. They know most people aren't just talking junk when they say they'd be happy to just play the old shit.

That's based on the premise that game boards matter, and that real solid evidence, such as the 2+ million in sales of Madden 07, don't matter. Those who say "we're happy with the old stuff" pale in comparison to the number of people who buy a fresh sports game every year.

There's nothing to corroborate your claim. Is it a conflict of interest in one's mind? Sure. Has it caused backlash in the marketplace? Not a single damn time.

[lordwow]

I cynically meant to say that the great old Xbox-gen franchises (i.e. NFL 2K and MVP) would undermine the 360-gen franchises with exclusive rights to those sports leagues (Madden and MLB).

This assertion might have been doubly true last year, but Microsoft reads the boards. They know what the gamers think of what exclusivity gets us. They know most people aren't just talking junk when they say they'd be happy to just play the old shit.

Ah, my apologies, I misread your comments.

That's based on the premise that game boards matter, and that real solid evidence, such as the 2+ million in sales of Madden 07, don't matter. Those who say "we're happy with the old stuff" pale in comparison to the number of people who buy a fresh sports game every year.

There's nothing to corroborate your claim. Is it a conflict of interest in one's mind? Sure. Has it caused backlash in the marketplace? Not a single damn time.

If EA put out a game with two stick figures batting each other over the head with bananas and titled it Madden 08 2+ million people would buy it.

[thrustbucket]

If EA put out a game with two stick figures batting each other over the head with bananas and titled it Madden 08 2+ million people would buy it.


Hehe, and I was just thinking yesterday how if Nintendo put out a bucket of marbles with a string of christmas lights, and called it "New innovative gaming" people would line up in droves and pay through the nose.

[Kawnhr]

Whoa, Psychonauts, Indigo Prophecy and Shenmue 2? Maybe a Jet Set Radio Future addition isn't too far behind.

[mykevermin]

If EA put out a game with two stick figures batting each other over the head with bananas and titled it Madden 08 2+ million people would buy it.

Your over-the-top claim only proves exactly what I was saying.

[jollydwarf]

I not disputing that the 'boards community' is a very small slice of the USA Today-type pie chart when it comes to sporto gaming, but it's a slice nonetheless. They want every last sale, and making a game like MVP backwards compatible would cost MLB 2K7 at least a few thousand sales.

On the 'flip side', they may not be working on making these games 'BC' because the small number of people that would play doesn't justify the effort. Me, I think it's more of the former than the latter, but whether that's 51/49 or 90/10, I couldn't say.

[trq]

I agree. Tons of people are complaining about a game or two they don't have BC, when they have around 300 BC. I still think the 360 easily has the best backwards compatibility due to actually upgrading the games.

Yeah, but as this thread attests, if everybody can name two or three high profile games that aren't BC, that kind of adds up. Personally, I'd rather have more games playable than less games with minor upgrades. And regardless of how important you think BC is, it's pretty hard to argue that MS has done the best job of it, when they haven't even gotten to the level of the other two consoles with a year's lead time.

[Apossum]

What are your BC wishes right now?


me:

--Capcom vs. SNK 2
--Marvel Vs. Capcom 2
--King of Fighters 02/03
--Street Fighter Anniversary
--Panzer Dragoon Orta
--DoAXBV

[Chacrana]

Good to see DOA Ultimate and SC: DA added... but they're still missing a ton nof games they need to have supported. Better than nothing though.

[mykevermin]

They want every last sale, and making a game like MVP backwards compatible would cost MLB 2K7 at least a few thousand sales.

Not as much of an effect, I'd argue, as dropping MLB 2K6 to $19.99 will.

[depascal22]

This is a great update. I'll crack open my copy of Indigo once this goes Live. Here are some other games that I'm looking for:

Armed & Dangerous
Beyond Good & Evil
Brothers in Arms 1 & 2
Chronicles of Riddick
Crimson Sea
Deus Ex
Guity Gear
Gunvalkyrie
Jet Set Radio Future
KOF '02/'03
NBA Street Vols 2 & 3
Obscure
Oddworld Stranger's Wrath
Otogi 1 & 2
Phantom Dust
Project Snowblind
Silent Hill 2
Street Fighter Anniversary Collection
Soul Calibur II

Those games go BC and I'll be able to get rid of the big black box.

[zewone]

Yeah, but as this thread attests, if everybody can name two or three high profile games that aren't BC, that kind of adds up. Personally, I'd rather have more games playable than less games with minor upgrades. And regardless of how important you think BC is, it's pretty hard to argue that MS has done the best job of it, when they haven't even gotten to the level of the other two consoles with a year's lead time.
But, to defend MS, they have to build the emulation from the ground up.

The Wii is a Gamecube and the PS3 has a PS2 in it. I guess they could have thrown the original Xbox architecture in the 360, but would have added to the size and price of the system.

[depascal22]

The Wii is a Gamecube and the PS3 has a PS2 in it. I guess they could have thrown the original Xbox architecture in the 360, but would have added to the size and price of the system.

Microsoft couldn't use the same chip because the manufacturer now makes the Cell Processor for the PS3.

[fraggedbylaggers]

Whoa, Psychonauts, Indigo Prophecy and Shenmue 2? Maybe a Jet Set Radio Future addition isn't too far behind.

Lets hope for that!!!

I bought Psychonauts about a month ago for $5 at TRU and am happy that I will soon be able to experience this great game. I got Shenmue 2 for $4 at gamestop a long time ago even though I didnt have an xbox because it had the DVD movie included with it.

[soonerdoc]

FUCK !!!!!!!!!!!

Where the hell is Chronicles of Riddick? This is fuckin ridiculous. It is one of the top 5 games on xbox with no sequel or anything else for 360 users....

[Puzznic]

YES!!! Buffy was THE Xbox game I was waiting to go BC.

Unfortunately I recently sold my unplayed copy of Psychonauts because I don't have an Xbox and I never thought they would add it.

[thrustbucket]

Microsoft couldn't use the same chip because the manufacturer now makes the Cell Processor for the PS3.

Huh? You do realize that IBM made the PowerPC CPU in the 360, as WELL as the Cell, right?

[gofishn]

Huh? You do realize that IBM made the PowerPC CPU in the 360, as WELL as the Cell, right?

I think he meant that the original XBOX had an Nvidia GPU and the 360 has an ATI GPU. Nvidia now makes the RSX GPU for the PS3. On top of that the original XBOX had an Intel based CPU whereas the 360 has an IBM PowerPC chip.

[stag8603]

Ahh nice I really wanted to give Scarface a try...looks like it turned out much better than I thought it would.

[Thongsy]

Now it's time for me to think of picking up a 360, only because of Shenmue. I know, that's sad, I still want 3 damnit.

[jollydwarf]

Those looking to rid themselves of the black-and-green monolith once and for all, aside from the relatively small amount of money/trade value you'd get for it, what's the hurry? Sure, it takes up space, but even if the 360 went 100% BC, I'd still keep mine around as an emergency back-up for those games. If my Microsoft fun machine took a shit and died*, I'm not sure I'd get the replacement the next day, or even within the next month.

Besides, I don't really think we'll ever see 100% Xbox backwards compatibility on the 360, or even 90%, for that matter. My cynical views on some old sports franchises would support this.

*--Yes, that's a somewhat obscure QOTSA reference.

[trq]

But, to defend MS, they have to build the emulation from the ground up.

The Wii is a Gamecube and the PS3 has a PS2 in it. I guess they could have thrown the original Xbox architecture in the 360, but would have added to the size and price of the system.

Sure, I know why it's not totally BC. I don't even blame them, though I wish they'd been up front about how it was going to work a little earlier on. But saying it's the best of the bunch is just silly.

[Kendal]

No Conker's, lame. Oh well, at least there are good games on the list.

[thebob101]

Buffy kicks arse! I love that game, played through the 2nd, wasn't as good.

[judyjudyjudy]

Nice. Psychonauts and Shenmue II were main reasons I wanted (and eventually getting) an Xbox more than a 360. Ah well, at least there's nothing exclusively on the 360 I want to play yet.

[jdangerc]

UHHHH

I don't see Mortal Kombat on the updated list!! Just Deception BOOOOOOO!!!

[Sporadic]

UHHHH

I don't see Mortal Kombat on the updated list!! Just Deception BOOOOOOO!!!

New games on the list are:

Mortal Kombat: Armageddon


:?:

[PenguinMaster]

Yeah, but as this thread attests, if everybody can name two or three high profile games that aren't BC, that kind of adds up. Personally, I'd rather have more games playable than less games with minor upgrades. And regardless of how important you think BC is, it's pretty hard to argue that MS has done the best job of it, when they haven't even gotten to the level of the other two consoles with a year's lead time.

I could easily argue that the other two haven't gotten to the 360s level because they don't upgrade the games at all. It's hard to see backwards compatibility as that great in the other two when it doesn't improve anything. All the Wii and PS3's backwards compatibility does is save a little money and a little shelf space. If you've tried playing BC games on the 360 in HD, you know they can look a hell of a lot better.

As someone else previously mentioned they were waiting for some games to become backwards compatible that were on PS2 as well. They could easily play them on their PS3, but they rather play upgraded versions on their 360.

Sure, you could argue that I can just pick up three out of the two for PS2, but I play PS2 on my PS3, which leads to two major problems: a) the game has a 25% of not being BC (yes, PS3 is going through BC problems too). b) games look worse on PS3 than they originally looked on PS2, plus I can run them in 720p on my 360 :D

[depascal22]

I think he meant that the original XBOX had an Nvidia GPU and the 360 has an ATI GPU. Nvidia now makes the RSX GPU for the PS3. On top of that the original XBOX had an Intel based CPU whereas the 360 has an IBM PowerPC chip.

That's what I meant. Thanks for clearing that up, gofishn.

[Roufuss]

In case anyone is wondering, K-Mart is having a clearance sale and, if you're lucky, Psychonauts Xbox can be had for $3.

I just bought my copy tonight for $3, I honestly can't wait to try it ;)

[zewone]

In case anyone is wondering, K-Mart is having a clearance sale and, if you're lucky, Psychonauts Xbox can be had for $3.

I just bought my copy tonight for $3, I honestly can't wait to try it ;)
Hook me up, son!

[mrcheapo11]

No Conker's, lame. Oh well, at least there are good games on the list.


I know, Conker is the one game I really want BC, my original Xbox is fine, but my controllers are just so bad. Hopefully, by some miracle, they will add Conker.

On another note, I guess I should have picked up Psychonauts on clearance at TRU, hopefully I can find one at Kmart like Roufuss said :)

[Roufuss]

Hook me up, son!

A friend bought the other one... if I find any more you will be first in line.

Seriously though, these should be at a few K-Mart's marked at full price since they never change the stickers.

[Staind204]

A friend bought the other one... if I find any more you will be first in line.

Seriously though, these should be at a few K-Mart's marked at full price since they never change the stickers.



Sorry if its been answered but are these YMMV or everywhere? I don't even know what this game is, I asked what was so good about it but no one ever answered. For $3 you can't hardly go wrong though.

[peteloaf]

Sorry if its been answered but are these YMMV or everywhere? I don't even know what this game is, I asked what was so good about it but no one ever answered. For $3 you can't hardly go wrong though. It's very very funny, smart funny. The art design is much like a Tim Burton film minus all the pretentious dark gothy-ness.

[FLSHADOW74]

I'm glad they added Family Guy as I wanted to play it just as a rental.

[sp00ge]

Aquaman??? Why couldn't they do a slightly less crappy game that people actually own?

[mykevermin]

Aquaman??? Why couldn't they do a slightly less crappy game that people actually own?

What? You think they built the game engine for a licensed piece of shit from the ground up? You think someone at MS said "You know what the American people want to play? Aquaman!"?

Of course not. It's probably the same goddamned engine a dozen other Xbox pieces of shit used. That's why it's BC. Not because they broke their backs to piss you off, but the more likely version of the story is it just happened to work after trying to make another game work on BC.

I'm not the happiest or nicest person on earth, and I sure am not typically a "glass half full" dude, but y'alls some "glass ain't got shit in it" grousing motherfuckers. Bitch for Shenmue II and Psychonauts all day long...now it's "Where's Panzer Dragoon Orta?" "I want this!" "I want that!"

Goddammit. Grow up. Enjoy the new BC games. I wish they were coming faster and I wish they came to my house, asked me what games I owned, and made them all BC too. That's not gonna happen, however.

I'm not pickin' on you personally...a lot of the attitude in this thread is some bitchin' bitches who just can't be happy that Microsoft added some titles to something we thought was going to die (BC projects) before too long.

[Sporadic]

I don't even know what this game is, I asked what was so good about it but no one ever answered. For $3 you can't hardly go wrong though.

It's from Tim Schafer's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Schafer) company, Double Fine Productions.

He is the man behind Day of the Tentacle, Full Throttle and Grim Fandango, some of the best PC adventure games ever put out.

[trq]

[QUOTE=PenguinMaster;2475270]I could easily argue that the other two haven't gotten to the 360s level because they don't upgrade the games at all. It's hard to see backwards compatibility as that great in the other two when it doesn't improve anything. All the Wii and PS3's backwards compatibility does is save a little money and a little shelf space. If you've tried playing BC games on the 360 in HD, you know they can look a hell of a lot better.[QUOTE]

Backwards compatibility and "upscaling" are apples and oranges. Again, you may prefer the games running in HD (who wouldn't?), but the key element to backwards compatibility -- by definition -- is having the games from the previous generation or so be compatible with the current system. When someone bills their system as BC, that's what they mean. "Slightly more than half our games run, but they look better on a good TV" isn't really the understood definition of the term.

[jalu6]

Anyone making a guess as to when this is going live? They usually release some demos and updates on Friday no?

I'm positive I'm the only dude who can't wait to try out my new copy of R6: Lockdown, since I got it for $9 and won't be getting Vegas till Christmas.

[Roufuss]

What? You think they built the game engine for a licensed piece of shit from the ground up? You think someone at MS said "You know what the American people want to play? Aquaman!"?

Of course not. It's probably the same goddamned engine a dozen other Xbox pieces of shit used. That's why it's BC. Not because they broke their backs to piss you off, but the more likely version of the story is it just happened to work after trying to make another game work on BC.

I'm not the happiest or nicest person on earth, and I sure am not typically a "glass half full" dude, but y'alls some "glass ain't got shit in it" grousing motherfuckers. Bitch for Shenmue II and Psychonauts all day long...now it's "Where's Panzer Dragoon Orta?" "I want this!" "I want that!"

Goddammit. Grow up. Enjoy the new BC games. I wish they were coming faster and I wish they came to my house, asked me what games I owned, and made them all BC too. That's not gonna happen, however.

I'm not pickin' on you personally...a lot of the attitude in this thread is some bitchin' bitches who just can't be happy that Microsoft added some titles to something we thought was going to die (BC projects) before too long.

Gonna have to quote this one because you're right... I mean, yea, I'm kinda pissed that Morrowind, Mercenaries, and Conker still aren't BC, but at least Psychonauts and Indigo Prophecy is.

I've wanted to play Psychonauts for a loooooooooong time but the PS2 version is inferior to the xbox one... I'm finally glad to play it.

The next update could have Panzer Dragoon Orta and people will be going "Where's my Jet Set Radio Future?!?!"... actually, fuck PDO, I actually do want JSRF =/

But the fact MS is still supporting this, and this update actually has alot of GOOD games, is great! The last BC update I didn't care for, but this one?

Splinter Cell Double Agent
Psychonauts
Indigo Prophecy
Shenmue 2
Scarface
Ultimate Spider-Man
DoA Ultimate

These are all FANTASTIC games... I remember the first few BC updates were horrible and mostly shitty games. This is just proving to me MS is still plugging away at it and each update is better than the last, and the more shitty games they bring out means the next list will be even more fantastic since the shit games are all gone.

[Rei no Otaku]

The next update could have Panzer Dragoon Orta and people will be going "Where's my Jet Set Radio Future?!?!"...
Not me. I'm just waiting for PDO, and then I can finally get rid of the old Xbox. I'm not going to just be happy because they released a list with a bunch of games I don't ever want to play. I'm sure Splinter Cell and Shenmue are great, if you like those games, but I don't. So as far as I'm concered (and that's the key phrase. I'm talking about myself here) this update sucks. And the updates will keep sucking until PDO is there.

Fuck Morrowind, JSRF, Mercenaries, Psychonauts, Mortal Kombat, etc. Until I see PDO the BC sucks.

[RelentlessRolento]

Fuck Morrowind, JSRF, Mercenaries, Psychonauts, Mortal Kombat, etc. Until I see PDO the BC sucks.

Fuck that, JSRF is a must! But yes, PDO does deserve a place on the list, but don't fuck over JSRF, that's sacralidge! Especially to a CAG knowing it sells on average for $3!

[Roufuss]

I mean, PDO probably uses an engine unique to itself so that's why it's taking so long... I know that's the reason behind Morrowind taking forever as well.

It's a blessing we're even still getting BC updates since the general tone a few months was that "it wasn't worth the effort".

But now that we're getting some things like Shenmue 2, I can't imagine that PDO is far behind.

I'm halfway tempted to sell my DC copy of Shenmue 2 and just get it for the 360 now, espically since I can get $50 for my import and get it on the Xbox for $5.99 at EB.

[RelentlessRolento]

I mean, PDO probably uses an engine unique to itself so that's why it's taking so long... I know that's the reason behind Morrowind taking forever as well.

It's a blessing we're even still getting BC updates since the general tone a few months was that "it wasn't worth the effort".

But now that we're getting some things like Shenmue 2, I can't imagine that PDO is far behind.

I'm halfway tempted to sell my DC copy of Shenmue 2 and just get it for the 360 now, espically since I can get $50 for my import and get it on the Xbox for $5.99 at EB.


didn't peter moore say that their ultimate goal was to get at least 80% of the games BC within the 360's lifespan? then again, nobody can trust console spokespeople anymore... unless it's done with finger puppets.

[Roufuss]

didn't peter moore say that their ultimate goal was to get at least 80% of the games BC within the 360's lifespan? then again, nobody can trust console spokespeople anymore... unless it's done with finger puppets.

I think Peter Moore was also the one who made some comment about BC not being worth their time... I remember CAG made a ruckus over something he said about dissing BC.

Here it is:



"Nobody is concerned anymore about backwards compatibility. We under promised and over delivered on that. It's a very complicated thing... very complex work. I'm just stunned that we have hundreds of games that are backwards compatible."





He added: "more are coming, but at some point, you just go, there's enough, let's move on, or people aren't as worried about a game being backwards compatible - and I like to think we've upheld our end of the bargain in making at least two or maybe three hundred games backwards compatible."



I wouldn't mind if the 200 - 300 he is so content with were mostly good games, but about 200 of them are shit.

[Chacrana]

I'm halfway tempted to sell my DC copy of Shenmue 2 and just get it for the 360 now, espically since I can get $50 for my import and get it on the Xbox for $5.99 at EB.

The dub for Shenmue II will give your ear gonorreah.... it's one of the most atrocious things ever produced and it's far worse than the dub Shenmue I got. So don't sell it.

[Logain8955]

Awesome news on Psychonauts and Indigo.

Here's hoping that January will bring Phantom Dust as well :D

[PenguinMaster]

Awesome news on Psychonauts and Indigo.

Here's hoping that January will bring Phantom Dust as well :D

While you never know what games will come in the next update, I wouldn't expect another one so soon.

[PenguinMaster]

Backwards compatibility and "upscaling" are apples and oranges. Again, you may prefer the games running in HD (who wouldn't?), but the key element to backwards compatibility -- by definition -- is having the games from the previous generation or so be compatible with the current system. When someone bills their system as BC, that's what they mean. "Slightly more than half our games run, but they look better on a good TV" isn't really the understood definition of the term.

Regardless of how you define backwards compatibility, I much prefer "Slightly more than half our games run, but they look better on a good TV", than "all games running exactly as they do on your old system". Which I know PS3 doesn't even run all the old games as well as PS2 (even a PS2 upgraded PS1 games) and I'm guessing the Wii doesn't run GC games as well as a GC either.

[Roufuss]

and I'm guessing the Wii doesn't run GC games as well as a GC either.

Most GC games were already at 480p to begin with, though, at least all the major ones I can think of and the Wii has component cables that aren't the price of a firstborn child.

I wish this damn update would go live, itching to play Psychonauts.

[thrustbucket]

and I'm guessing the Wii doesn't run GC games as well as a GC either.


Seeing how the Wii uses the exact same CPU and GPU as the gamecube, just clocked faster, and more Ram, I don't see why they shouldn't run perfectly on the Wii. It should be very much like just upgrading your PC and running your old games.

[dserafin1986]

I mean, PDO probably uses an engine unique to itself so that's why it's taking so long... I know that's the reason behind Morrowind taking forever as well.

It's a blessing we're even still getting BC updates since the general tone a few months was that "it wasn't worth the effort".

But now that we're getting some things like Shenmue 2, I can't imagine that PDO is far behind.

I'm halfway tempted to sell my DC copy of Shenmue 2 and just get it for the 360 now, espically since I can get $50 for my import and get it on the Xbox for $5.99 at EB.

True dat...Sell that...Although, you might want to hold onto it...The value may spike if a Shenmue 3 ever comes out...Then again, that's just wishful thinking...

When is this update going to be live? I tried Shenmue last night, and got an error message

[Sporadic]

When is this update going to be live? I tried Shenmue last night, and got an error message

Sometime this month.

The site before they pulled it said December 2006.

[Kawnhr]

The dub for Shenmue II will give your ear gonorreah.... it's one of the most atrocious things ever produced and it's far worse than the dub Shenmue I got. So don't sell it.

The Xbox version of Shenmue 2 has the Japanese voices with subtitles, you know.

Personally though, I use the English voices for laughs.

[Staind204]

Its up now.

[Staind204]

Oh and Conker snuck in on the list as well :)

[Sporadic]

Its up now.

?

It's still showing the old list for me.

- edit Ah, I see it.

List and thread title updated.

[TheRock88]

Sweet, it's up. Downloading it right now. Off to play some Shenmue II.:D

[rabbitt]

Thanks for the update. I think I'm gonna try some Conker and remind myself why it's so bad, then finally play Psychonauts for the first time.

[Staind204]

Well I got Psychonauts at Kmart for $3. Is it actually a fun platformer or one where you wan to rip off your head because its so hard?

[anomynous]

Ill want reports of how well Scarface runs
on this.........

[jakescape53]

sweet soul caliber 2! i have a sealed copy just sitting there waiting to play. ill have to play it over christmas break now

[CaseyRyback]

Looks like I will be making a run to EB tonight to pick up Soul Calibur II.

[InuFaye]

i need reports on how scarface runs, NOW!
Also where is the oddworld strangers rath support?
AND MERCENARIES!

[Makaveli_The_Don]

Now I need to go get Scarface, Conkers, & Stubbs the Zombie.


Oh and how long has Stubbs been on that list?

[Sporadic]

Now I need to go get Scarface, Conkers, & Stubbs the Zombie.


Oh and how long has Stubbs been on that list?

I believe since launch.

[TheRock88]

Ill want reports of how well Scarface runs
on this.........

Same here, I'm waiting to see if it runs good before I go out and buy it.

[Roufuss]

Oh and Conker snuck in on the list as well :)

AWESOME!!!

Now I just need to find somewhere that sells it cheap :lol:

[guyver2077]

holy shit!!!!!

awesome now i can beat armageddon and finally neat shenmue 2 (sucks i have to start from scratch but i really dont remember anything anyways)

[anomynous]

Somebody w/ Scarface please go test it

[mrcheapo11]

AWESOME!!!

Now I just need to find somewhere that sells it cheap :lol:

I feel the same way, yay Conker. My closest EBgames and Gamestop (they are within a mile of each other) now have 4+ each, used, so finding one in good condition shouldn't be too hard.

[Roufuss]

I feel the same way, yay Conker. My closest EBgames and Gamestop (they are within a mile of each other) now have 4+ each, used, so finding one in good condition shouldn't be too hard.

$17.99 is way too much money to pay for it, imo, espically since I haven't paid more than $10 for any Xbox game yet (and I own some of the best ones so far, imo).

I think I'll actually hit up some pawn shops to find it for $10 and under.

[guyver2077]

playing mk now..

opening movie lagged a lil..

fuck now to start konquest mode again

[dastly75]

If you haven't played Indigo Prophecy, PLAY IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!

[mikeohara]

Good update but where are the 2-D Fighters?!?

I implore Microsoft to heed this man's request ... and make more of the Capcom/Sammy games BC'd.

[InuFaye]

I implore Microsoft to heed this man's request ... and make more of the Capcom/Sammy games BC'd.

GULITY GEAR FTW!!!

[rabbitt]

Did Psychonauts have issues during the cutscenes on the original Xbox? There seems to be a framing problem during the opening one for me.

[-Never4ever-]

Cool, now I can pick up Conker AGAIN and try once more to flip it.

[RelentlessRolento]

fuck yeah! finally can pickup conker like I wanted to when I first bought my 360... where's the cheapest place to get it ATM?

[RedvsBlue]

Yay, Ultimate Spider-man BC!!!

[Duo_Maxwell]

So who here is going to be the guinea pig and try out SC: Double Agent? After hearing about the original xbox version having so many differences I'm considering selling my 360 version (which I already played through once) and buyin' the xbox version instead of giving the 360 one a 2nd playthrough. I'd just like to know if the emulation runs well or not though first...

[deadite76]

Now to play the waiting game to see how well some of these titles work.

[RedvsBlue]

So who here is going to be the guinea pig and try out SC: Double Agent? After hearing about the original xbox version having so many differences I'm considering selling my 360 version (which I already played through once) and buyin' the xbox version instead of giving the 360 one a 2nd playthrough. I'd just like to know if the emulation runs well or not though first...

Even though I already own the 360 version I'm seriously considering buying the regular XBox version now that its BC, mostly because of all the good things I've been hearing about it. Once I can find it for cheap I'll be getting it for sure.

[Apossum]

Shenmue seems to be fine so far. I think the voice acting got worse though. :lol:

I noticed a little slow down when I'd enter an area with a lot of people. It lasted a second then went away. other than that it seems fine.

[CaseyRyback]

Shenmue seems to be fine so far. I think the voice acting got worse though. :lol:

I noticed a little slow down when I'd enter an area with a lot of people. It lasted a second then went away. other than that it seems fine.

That slowdown has always been in the game. It is one of the reasons some people prefer the DC version.

[Apossum]

That slowdown has always been in the game. It is one of the reasons some people prefer the DC version.


gotcha.


btw, in case anyone is wondering, this game is $6 at EB. It's worth checking out, if only for the voice acting. it's so bad, it's worth paying $6 to hear. the game is pretty decent too-- it's like GTA, the Die Hard Arcade game and Animal Crossing all in one.

[Roufuss]

gotcha.


btw, in case anyone is wondering, this game is $6 at EB. It's worth checking out, if only for the voice acting. it's so bad, it's worth paying $6 to hear. the game is pretty decent too-- it's like GTA, the Die Hard Arcade game and Animal Crossing all in one.

I'm definitely getting it for $6, espically since someone in here also confirmed you can do Japanese voices with subtitles on the Xbox version.

Let's see, do I keep my pain in the ass European import for Dreamcast that I never bother to hook up and play, or do I get it for $6 at EB and run it in 480p?

WOW, tough decision!

It also has that disc that sums up Shenmue 1, right?

[RedvsBlue]

gotcha.


btw, in case anyone is wondering, this game is $6 at EB. It's worth checking out, if only for the voice acting. it's so bad, it's worth paying $6 to hear. the game is pretty decent too-- it's like GTA, the Die Hard Arcade game and Animal Crossing all in one.

Is it the first one or the second one where he goes around everywhere asking for sailors?

[Roufuss]

Is it the first one or the second one where he goes around everywhere asking for sailors?

First one.

[CaseyRyback]

I'm definitely getting it for $6, espically since someone in here also confirmed you can do Japanese voices with subtitles on the Xbox version.

Let's see, do I keep my pain in the ass European import for Dreamcast that I never bother to hook up and play, or do I get it for $6 at EB and run it in 480p?

WOW, tough decision!

It also has that disc that sums up Shenmue 1, right?

Yes but if you get the game via trade in, there is a good chance that it will not be included. When I traded in one of my copies the guy said that no one ever trades it in with the movie.

[Ultimate Matt X]

Anyone wanna play some Conker this weekend? I've always wanted to try it online.

[Roufuss]

Yes but if you get the game via trade in, there is a good chance that it will not be included. When I traded in one of my copies the guy said that no one ever trades it in with the movie.

Each EB near me has stacks of the game, so I'll try my luck ;)

[RedvsBlue]

Anyone wanna play some Conker this weekend? I've always wanted to try it online.

Its pretty bad, its almost impossible to be able to tell what's going on and what you're doing.

[mykevermin]

So who here is going to be the guinea pig and try out SC: Double Agent? After hearing about the original xbox version having so many differences I'm considering selling my 360 version (which I already played through once) and buyin' the xbox version instead of giving the 360 one a 2nd playthrough. I'd just like to know if the emulation runs well or not though first...

I'll let you know in a bit, now that I'm done with a marathon week of fucking copyediting.

I'm sure it will run the same as the other SC titles, but to be sure, I'll put it in once I can get my wife away from Animal Planet.

In the meantime, I'm gonna keep playing SC: Essentials and wonder why the game got such dogballs for ratings.

[mrcheapo11]

$17.99 is way too much money to pay for it, imo, espically since I haven't paid more than $10 for any Xbox game yet (and I own some of the best ones so far, imo).

I think I'll actually hit up some pawn shops to find it for $10 and under.

I can knock it down just a tad with my Edge card, but it may be better if I do the upcoming B2G1, as long as I can find Conker and Psychonauts. I would probably add Doom 3 Collectors to that for a third game. It would add up to just a little over $10 for each, assuming the Edge card can be stacked.

[Apossum]

I'm definitely getting it for $6, espically since someone in here also confirmed you can do Japanese voices with subtitles on the Xbox version.

Let's see, do I keep my pain in the ass European import for Dreamcast that I never bother to hook up and play, or do I get it for $6 at EB and run it in 480p?

WOW, tough decision!

It also has that disc that sums up Shenmue 1, right?


I don't think there is Japanese dialogue in the game. If there's an option to switch to it, I can't find it.

it does have a Shenmue 1 movie with it. haven't checked it out yet myself.

[retail sucks]

I'm surprised Splinter Cell: Double Agent is on that list, I mean, with there being a 360 version out.

I'm thinking the same exact thing for Far Cry Instincts..............:roll: Atleast make the Evolution version B/C if your going to add something to the list.

[peteloaf]

Played Psychonauts for a while. The videos play kinda rough (a little stuttering & tearing) and after I beat "Basic Braining" The texture on Raz's clothing got messed up and turned blue. Otherwise the game plays great.

[Ultimate Matt X]

Conker seems to be running fine, I only played the training level a bit and just hopped online for a few minutes.

[2Fast]

it does have a Shenmue 1 movie with it. haven't checked it out yet myself.

I have...it's an interesting watch to say the least :D

[Kaijufan]

I may have to pick up Ultimate Spider-Man and Indigo Prophecy now.

[Spybreak8]

Just picked up Soul Calibur II ($11 shipped) and Mech Assault 2:Lone Wolf ($6 after shipping) both found on pricegrabber and then bought em on Amazon marketplace. Both sellers had excellent ratings and they say I'll get my games in four days, not bad. I wish they'd bring Mech Assault 2 on the list but I still got my xbox hooked up to my pc.

[mykevermin]

Double Agent works perfectly through the first level. Like any SC game, there's an awful long (~90 seconds) load time before the game starts up (not between levels, though).

No problems with it at all, and for an Xbox game that doesn't support HDTV (and this may be a testament to the 360's upscaling capabilities), the game looks simply fucking amazing on the 360. Gorgeous textures, the lighting effects as good as ever...

Regretfully, I have not played the 360 version, so I can't offer any comparisons to that version. I will say that the original works wonderfully (so far) on the 360.

[lordopus99]

shucks... still waiting on the other Prince of Persia games. :(

[Duo_Maxwell]

Double Agent works perfectly through the first level. Like any SC game, there's an awful long (~90 seconds) load time before the game starts up (not between levels, though).

No problems with it at all, and for an Xbox game that doesn't support HDTV (and this may be a testament to the 360's upscaling capabilities), the game looks simply fucking amazing on the 360. Gorgeous textures, the lighting effects as good as ever...

Regretfully, I have not played the 360 version, so I can't offer any comparisons to that version. I will say that the original works wonderfully (so far) on the 360.

Good to hear, I'll probably swap out my 360 version for the original xbox version then, seeing as how my Halo Edition one is no longer with the living. Graphics don't even concern me really (though def. not a bad thing either), I just want to experience the difference in play. I just hope the wonderful performance doesn't crap out in the later levels like some other BC games (pre-updated Half-Life 2 I'm looking at you especially...).

[tenzor]

shucks... still waiting on the other Prince of Persia games. :(

Me too! I hope these are in the next update.

[Santurio]

time to dust off some old xbox games.

oh and I'll make sure to let everyone know how good Aquaman works on the 360.:lol:

[Apossum]

Soul Calibur 2 seems perfect.

[Zoglog]

woot soul calibur 2 = sweetness. I think that and Halo 2 were the only games I cared about getting backwards compatability.

[TheRock88]

I don't think there is Japanese dialogue in the game. If there's an option to switch to it, I can't find it.

it does have a Shenmue 1 movie with it. haven't checked it out yet myself.

Same here, I just checked and there doesnt seem to be an option for the Japanese dialogue.

I also tried Buffy and it was pretty good. There were some minor lag though when you either enter a new area or there were a lot of characters on the screen at once.

[mofo1115]

hmm I'm thinking about picking up family guy now that it's bc (yeah yeah I know but i'm a big fan!)

[Roufuss]

I know a few people benefitted from me telling them Psychonauts is now $3 on clearance at K-Mart (YMMV on if they updated the price in the computer though) but here is another deal on a BC game that just went up people rave about.

Indigo Prophecy is $4 for Xbox if you can find it at K-Mart. I picked myself up one today.

[Apossum]

hopefully this B2G1 at EB is for real, cause I just picked up Psychonauts, SC2 and Shenmue. works out to about $8 per game. not too shabby.

[TheRock88]

Went out and rented Scarface. It runs good, only times when there was major lag/slowdown was either in a huge battle with tons of people on the screen at once or when you're driving out in the streets.

[Gycot]

booo no widescreen psychonauts :(

[depascal22]

Psychonauts isn't widescreen?

[Zoglog]

Played a bit of soul calibur 2. Of course Soul Calibur 2 was one of the only handful of Xbox games that actually had 720p. unfortunetly it was not widescreen which is much sadness =(. However the graphics hold up very well ;)

Rumble doesn't work anymore with SC2 though and there was some slowdown when I was fighting Ivy in the Library level.

[doctorfaustus]

Psychonauts isn't widescreen?
It never was. Great game though. I'm Having a blast.

[Sn0brawler]

Having bought Psychonauts for 10 dollars back in October under the assumption that it would soon BC, I've very pleased.

Although I'd heard good things, so far the game is even better than I expected. It appears to have held up very well.

[rabbitt]

I am also enjoying Psychonauts very much. Not too many games can get me to laugh out loud.

[Rei no Otaku]

Damn, I wish all you people had bought the game when it first came out. Then maybe we'd have a sequel...

[Roufuss]

Damn, I wish all you people had bought the game when it first came out. Then maybe we'd have a sequel...

On the flipside though many people are getting the game from $3 to $10, and Tim Schaffer himself hyped the game up big time in his quest to get it BC. I say the quest to get the game backwards compatible was a better and more effective advertising campaign than the game ever had.

I know that me, personally, bought it just to see what it was all about since it had to be decent since the guy went to great lengths to convince people and MS to get it BC.

Alot of these copies are still being bought brand new so a sequel may show up, espicially if the game has a sudden surge in sales due to being BC.

[RedvsBlue]

I still long to see Psi-Ops on the BC list...

[nintendokid]

I say the quest to get the game backwards compatible was a better and more effective advertising campaign than the game ever had.

Sad, but true. Games like Psychonauts and Shenmue are probably unheard of to the many of the mainstream Xbox'ers out there until the latest BC news update.

[lanzarlaluna]

Psychonauts is amazing. I'm glad all you 360-only owners are now able to enjoy it. Although not a difficult game, the sense of style, humor, and voice acting are amazing. It's actually the first game I bought with my original billybox back in February. =]

[blackjaw]

how is the emulation in shenmue?

[RelentlessRolento]

how is the emulation in shenmue?

http://www.xboxyde.com/news_3890_en.html

[asianxcore]

so is the overall consensus, Soul Calibur 2 plays well on the 360?

I am thinking about picking it up this weekend for $7.99 at EB this weekend. I already have it for GC, but what the hell.

[lilboo]

How does this work?!

I've played my 360 for a few days already..and I never been prompted for an update.

Do I have to actually insert an Xbox game in for it to be prompt..?

[Sporadic]

How does this work?!

I've played my 360 for a few days already..and I never been prompted for an update.

Do I have to actually insert an Xbox game in for it to be prompt..?

Yes.

If you don't want to do it that way you can always download the update and burn it to a disc.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardscompatibility.htm#download

[RelentlessRolento]

so is the overall consensus, Soul Calibur 2 plays well on the 360?

I am thinking about picking it up this weekend for $7.99 at EB this weekend. I already have it for GC, but what the hell.


hey, at least you get Spawn.

[InuFaye]

no widescreen in ultimate spiderman either

[blackjaw]

http://www.xboxyde.com/news_3890_en.html

Awesome. I re-bought the game for $5.99 at EB....now to remove those pesky stickers...

[Spybreak8]

Just played Soul Calibur 2 and its runny perfectly, this is great since I bought it online for around 11 bucks after shipping. This is great to have my own copy now as I've always just played my roomate's copy but Im not in school anymore.

[InuFaye]

anyway to get these games in widescreen?

[Zoglog]

Just played Soul Calibur 2 and its runny perfectly, this is great since I bought it online for around 11 bucks after shipping. This is great to have my own copy now as I've always just played my roomate's copy but Im not in school anymore.

it most certainly does not run "perfectly"

There is no rumble.
and there is slowdown in certain levels.

[Apossum]

Found some spots where the sound gets choppy (or drops out altogether) in Shenmue 2. Doesn't seem to affect the dialogue.

[Spybreak8]

it most certainly does not run "perfectly"

There is no rumble.
and there is slowdown in certain levels.

Well I wouldn't consider no rumble affecting how the game runs on the 360 and I haven't gotten any slowdown yet and I beat the arcade mode with my main man Spawn.8-)

[Staind204]

I went to EBGames and picked up Shenmue II again for $5.99. I loved playing through this and the original when they first came out. Hopefully it will still be fun since I forget most of the game.

[Kendal]

Conkers is running poorly. I have had it freeze on me a few times. I got up the the robot hay stack and kicked his ass. This game is way easier with the X360 controller. So much fun.

[CAG 79]

Ninja Gaiden Black runs excellent with no problems whatsoever. Shenmue II has some minor audio glitches but that's about it.

[guyver2077]

anyway to get these games in widescreen?

o no.. do these games not run in wide screen? do we have to mess with our display settings again?

[shieryda]

Nice. I may have to buy "Scarface" now...

[ryanbph]

there was some props to the op in the planet xbox 360 podcast on 12/15