More rumblings of MGS4 coming to Xbox360

[Reality's Fringe]

The rumors that Metal Gear Solid 4 is not a PS3 exclusive continue to snowball. A little over a month ago came the first wave of speculation and the idea even graced the cover of EGM. Fanboys screamed and raged, "Kojima-san owes way too much to Sony to stab them in the back like this, his honour would be tarnished forever and the Japanese care deeply about their honour." Konami's PR simply said, "Metal Gear 4 [sic] is a PS3 title."

Now website Noooz states they have "exclusive" information that MGS4 is coming to Xbox 360. We spoke directly with the editor of Noooz, Daniel Boutros, who has been around the industry for a good bit. He says his source for the information is quite high up, "I rarely run with anything unless I'm 100% confident. I rarely break news stories as you can see." He jokes that from now on he's sticking to opinion pieces after the storm of comments his site received.

Boutros' source says that MGS4 will be coming to the Xbox 360 shortly after the PS3 release. The source says Konami is concerned that there will still not be enough PS3 units out there to make the game profitable. This is the same rationale being used by many publishers, including Ubisoft, to jump off the exclusive bandwagon. Somebody has to pay the bills and the wider the net, the more money publishers will make. We, along with probably everyone else, will be following up with Konami and Microsoft for comment tomorrow. This story isn't going away until somebody sneaks up on it from behind, chokes it senseless and drags it into a storage locker.


---- If this is true, I wonder if the port will be optimized or be kind of sucky like the Xbox port of Substance?

[Chacrana]

---- If this is true, I wonder if the port will be optimized or be kind of sucky like the Xbox port of Substance?

Considering that Kojima has said before that he doesn't like ports and how much he optimizes a game for a specific system, I wouldn't expect a miracle. And also, if Konami was just porting the game over because it's not profitable on the PS3, it doesn't sound like they really care about optimizing as much as they do breaking even.

[Calamityuponthee]

If true, this could be a nail in the coffin for sony. Now all we need is Squeenix to come to the dark side and the PS3 is as good as dead.

[whoknows]

If true, this could be a nail in the coffin for sony. Now all we need is Squeenix to come to the dark side and the PS3 is as good as dead.
I was wondering who would be the first to say it :roll:

[seanr1221]

I don't know why fanboys get so upset about things like this? Share the wealth I always say.

Also, to me atleast, it makes a ton of sense to do this as the game will cost so much to make.

[seanr1221]

If true, this could be a nail in the coffin for sony. Now all we need is Squeenix to come to the dark side and the PS3 is as good as dead.


See, this to me is stupid. Why would you WANT Sony to die? So Microsoft is in competition with themselves? Yea, that would make for some great times. :roll:

I'd love if both companies leveled off, and then pumped out the in house exclusives to compete with each other. Now THAT is a good thing.

[lpj8]

Here's the article that the OP is referring to:

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/17/heightened-rumor-metal-gear-solid-4-not-a-ps3-exclusive/

[FlipSide]

See, this to me is stupid. Why would you WANT Sony to die? So Microsoft is in competition with themselves? Yea, that would make for some great times. :roll:

I'd love if both companies leveled off, and then pumped out the in house exclusives to compete with each other. Now THAT is a good thing.

Sony wont die, but they might fall from the #1 spot. Sony has had the #1 spot for a while and the closest competitor WAS a distant #2. There is almost no gap now and Its time for them to rethink their stratgies and they can start by not forcing their own formats to the consumer. Its time for them to get their brains out of their ass and start really thinking.

I dont think Squeenix will be going to 360 soon (it might change with the success of Blue Dragon in Japan) but Squeenix is slowly favoring Nintendo: Dragon Quest IX and a new FF tactics for the DS then a new Dragon Quest for the Wii is a big blow for Sony.

[millrat1030]

Unfortunately I don't think this will be the last we see of these moves. With the cost of development of games now days alot of developers will be going cross platform. I believe there has also been a few previously 360 exclusives become cross platform. I think the big problem here is we will get stuck again with 360 graphics on the PS3. The same as we seen with xbox ports of PS2 games. Before I get attacked, I'm just saying this keeps developers from pushing machines to there limits. Instead we get the limits of the weaker system. I guess maybe someday we may see GoW on PS3, and God of War on 360. MAYBE???

[captainfrizo]

The only people who will be having a problem with MGS4 possibly going to the 360 will be the die-hard Sony fanboys. If Konami is concerned about their profit margin with a PS3 exclusive release it should be common sense for them to port it to another console. There's no real point in maintaining exclusives if you can't make any profit on it, especially if the primary concern is the lack of console sales the exclusive is destined for (as mentioned in the first post).

Ultimately Konami will look smart if they do port it to the 360 for more sales and profit (unless you're a fanboy and then Konami would be a servant of Satan) and Microsoft will gain from having what should be a great title. Sure, Sony may get the shaft, but if they focused more on getting more consoles available for consumers then they may not be in the scenario they are now.

If MGS4 does go to the 360 it doesn't spell doom for the PS3, but it's (unfortunately) yet another consequence of Sony's questionable handling of the PS3 launch/development.

[Kaijufan]

I don't really care about MGS 4 coming to the 360 all that much since I don't like the MGS games, but I hope it causes SE to release FF XIII and Kingdom Hearts 3 for the 360.

[Graystone]

MGS4 was the only reason I wanted to play a PS3. But if this comes true then I have no need ever for a PS3.

[Kendal]

MGS4 was the only reason I wanted to play a PS3. But if this comes true then I have no need ever for a PS3.

I am the same way. Well I know there are going to be some whacky Japanese games on the PS3 that I will want to play, but I have my Wii for that. This was a system seller for me. If it is on 360, I doubt I will get a PS3 anytime soon.

[mykevermin]

I can't quite grasp why people think Substance was so bad on the Xbox. It had some slowdown in the rain levels, but was the same game as the PS2 version; oh, forgive me, that's right: the PS2 got "Snakeboarding."

My bad.

I don't care if any games are exclusives anymore; I'll just choose the best game of those available (and trust me, achievement points do count for me).

[Allnatural]

Boutros' source says that MGS4 will be coming to the Xbox 360 shortly after the PS3 release. The source says Konami is concerned that there will still not be enough PS3 units out there to make the game profitable.
Predicated on the assumption that Sony will not have production ramped up by then. If Sony's still having manufacturing problems by Q4 2007 (when MGS4 will apparently be released) they'll have a far bigger problem than one non-exclusive release.

[CaseyRyback]

I can't quite grasp why people think Substance was so bad on the Xbox. It had some slowdown in the rain levels, but was the same game as the PS2 version; oh, forgive me, that's right: the PS2 got "Snakeboarding."

My bad.

I don't care if any games are exclusives anymore; I'll just choose the best game of those available (and trust me, achievement points do count for me).


Yea the game is not all that bad. It is inferior to the PS2 version due to the slowdown and the controller, but it is still fun. When I only had an Xbox I played it through like 7 times and never had a problem.

I really hope it ends up being BC soon since I think the 360 controller would work perfectly with Metal Gear's control scheme.

[RelentlessRolento]

I'd only say yes if Capcom were making the game (yeah right)... other than that, no.

[asianxcore]

MGS4 was the only reason I wanted to play a PS3. But if this comes true then I have no need ever for a PS3.

Agreeeeed.

[A Happy Panda]

Considering that Kojima has said before that he doesn't like ports and how much he optimizes a game for a specific system, I wouldn't expect a miracle. And also, if Konami was just porting the game over because it's not profitable on the PS3, it doesn't sound like they really care about optimizing as much as they do breaking even.

While what you say is true about Kojima, I can only say this:

Konami Execs > Kojima.

I'd personally love to see MGS4 hit the 360 simply because I don't wanna buy yet another console.

Also, I don't think we can say anything about if it's being ported or not because we don't even know if this rumor is true.

[hiccupleftovers]

I was wondering who would be the first to say it :roll:

The truth hurts doesn't it. It's probably as much a knife in the back to Sony as it is to you it seems.

[whoknows]

The truth hurts doesn't it. It's probably as much a knife in the back to Sony as it is to you it seems.
No, its just in every topic similar to this someone says almost the same thing and it isn't true at all. Sony isn't going anywhere this gen, MGS isn't their only exclusive franchise as many seem to think.

[hiccupleftovers]

Predicated on the assumption that Sony will not have production ramped up by then. If Sony's still having manufacturing problems by Q4 2007 (when MGS4 will apparently be released) they'll have a far bigger problem than one non-exclusive release.

And let's not forget about price point and the fact that the 360 has a great lead at this point. It would be very tough for the PS3 to sell as many 360s are out by then and the profit margins would be small if the game came out strictly to one system.

[hiccupleftovers]

No, its just in ever topic similar to this someone says almost the same thing and it isn't true at all. Sony isn't going anywhere this gen, MGS isn't their only exclusive franchise as many seem to think.

I was referencing the hypothetical statement that if Squeenix were to jump ship even in the slightest bit than that might be a sign of doom for Sony.

They're not going to go anywhere, but I think that they have a mighty task at hand in playing catch up, not only with their console but public perception at this point.

I disagree with a great number of Sony's business model such as the use of DRM and rootkits and the Blu-Ray player, but I have still bought their product. I got a PSP, but I sadly wish I almost hadn't at this point since I don't find many games I want for it, the battery sucks, the screen is far too easily scratchable and the majority of games that I'm either interested in or want to play come out on DS. I almost have to force myself to buy a PSP game at this point just because I feel like the system is languishing. Look you're a Sony fanboy and that's alright. That's who you are and I accept that , but I don't know if you accept it at this point. You're a die hard Sony till the end. Me, you just can't find Microsoft doing much of anything wrong this gen. There are maybe minute symantecs, but overall they've put a very solid system with great games and great overall functionality.

[hiccupleftovers]

No, its just in ever topic similar to this someone says almost the same thing and it isn't true at all. Sony isn't going anywhere this gen, MGS isn't their only exclusive franchise as many seem to think.

I seem to have digressed a bit in my last post, but you need to take into consideration that we've already seen Capcom start supporting the 360 more and if Konami is thinking this way than it might be a sign of things to come. Yes the PS3 has exclusives at the moment, but many of those exclusives can also be easily shuffled over to the 360 if publishers see dollar signs on another console. Who knows, this could possibly have a snowball effect of titles that were once exclusive to PS3 moving to 360.

[CaseyRyback]

No, its just in every topic similar to this someone says almost the same thing and it isn't true at all. Sony isn't going anywhere this gen, MGS isn't their only exclusive franchise as many seem to think.

Also MGS isn't the killer app it was when 2 came out. MGS3 sold a fraction of what the others did if I recall correctly.

[RelentlessRolento]

To clear things up:

http://d5.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/Pokemon%20TV%20International/00_poke_tv2_open.mp3

[hiccupleftovers]

I can't quite grasp why people think Substance was so bad on the Xbox. It had some slowdown in the rain levels, but was the same game as the PS2 version; oh, forgive me, that's right: the PS2 got "Snakeboarding."

My bad.

I don't care if any games are exclusives anymore; I'll just choose the best game of those available (and trust me, achievement points do count for me).
myke you're on a roll

[rickonker]

MGS4 is probably the number one game PS3 fans bring up when they want to convince people to get a PS3. This kicks ass, the PS3 deserves to get fucked.

[-Never4ever-]

Sony wont die, but they might fall from the #1 spot. Sony has had the #1 spot for a while and the closest competitor WAS a distant #2. There is almost no gap now and Its time for them to rethink their stratgies and they can start by not forcing their own formats to the consumer. Its time for them to get their brains out of their ass and start really thinking.

I dont think Squeenix will be going to 360 soon (it might change with the success of Blue Dragon in Japan) but Squeenix is slowly favoring Nintendo: Dragon Quest IX and a new FF tactics for the DS then a new Dragon Quest for the Wii is a big blow for Sony.

They've already fallen to last place, but it's still far from over. Sony needs to climb out of the rut it's in now and close the gap betweenitself and Wii (and then 360). And even then, it's still going to be a tough generation Sony, who is now the only company that still loses money on each system sold.