HD DVD thread - Toshiba: HD DVD DISCONTINUED, REPAIR/SUPPORT CONTINUES, NO BLU PLANS

[SteveMcQ]

HD-A3 is down to $178.52 @ Amazon.com and is now back with the 10 free HD-DVD offer. The selection has changed from last time, though.

[LinkinPrime]

I never seen Chronicles of Riddick and Pitch Black...which one should I watch first to enjoy both films in chronological order?

[Trakan]

I never seen Chronicles of Riddick and Pitch Black...which one should I watch first to enjoy both films in chronological order?

Riddick is the sequel. Watch Pitch Black first.

[LinkinPrime]

Riddick is the sequel. Watch Pitch Black first.

Thanks. I could have sworn that I heard Riddick was a prequel at some point.

[halfbent]

Pitch Black is easier to enjoy first anyway. Was a way better movie IMO - I actually walked out of the theatre 10-15 minutes early for Riddick.

[Bezerker]

Thanks. I could have sworn that I heard Riddick was a prequel at some point.
Story goes Pitch Black -> Dark Fury -> Chronicles of Riddick


Dark Fury is an animated movie done by Peter Chung (Aeon Flux)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Fury

[Trakan]

Thanks. I could have sworn that I heard Riddick was a prequel at some point.

The video game has the title in it. Escape from Butcher Bay is a prequel to the events in Pitch Black.

EFBB > Pitch Black > Dark Fury > CoR

[Tha Xecutioner]

Play Escape from Butcher Bay first before even watching Pitch Black, then once you're done with the amazing game you can enjoy an even more amazing movie.

[gsr]

riddick is a great movie..very underappreciated.

Watch the director's cut.

The riddick character is awesome..just like Malcom Reynolds in firefly and Jason Bourne in the Bourne movies.

[LinkinPrime]

Play Escape from Butcher Bay first before even watching Pitch Black, then once you're done with the amazing game you can enjoy an even more amazing movie.

Being that the game is not BC and that my XBOX isn't plugged in, I'm waiting for the remake that's supposed to hit XBOX360 sometime soon.

[guyver2077]

pitch black was awesome.. im still waiting for amazon to include cor in a bogo or something..

too bad they dont seem to be copying the bb sale this week

[Ice2Dragon]

Picked up six movies today.

Eastern Promises.

Holy god. Best movie ive seen in a long time, took best buy 3 hours to find it on hd dvd, but damnit its worth it. Pq, Audio, Movie, all great, definite recommend.

Now onto the other 5 I bought.. Kingdom.. Hot Rod.. Black snake moan.. Heartbreak Kid.. Balls of fury..

[guyver2077]

i wish they would pump out an update for the hd players to improve dvd upscaling..

i like how the ps3 automatically stretches 4:3 non widescreen dvd's to full screen.. with the hd player theres no way to stretch the images.. i have to go into the setup and change display type to 4:3

i am currently using the a2 again since transformers doesnt wanna work on the a3. we need another compat. update

[Richlough]

I'm wondering about the fate of the Add-on .

The Toys R Us clearance is hopefully the first step that will lead to the Elite HD DVD rumor coming true .

Major Nelson subtlely mentioned to be ready for a CES/HD DVD announcement .
Most likely hardware related , not WB exclusivity .

[guyver2077]

how man more sku's could they announce? jesus..

[Sporadic]

I still think adding a built-in HD-DVD drive to the Xbox 360 would be a huge mistake and giant stumble by MS/Toshiba.

[pimpinc333]

I still think adding a built-in HD-DVD drive to the Xbox 360 would be a huge mistake and giant stumble by MS/Toshiba.

How? Thats like saying it was a huge mistake for Sony to put in Blu Ray in the PS3.

[guyver2077]

they would have to shuffle pricing again...

they would have to match the 399 40gb ps3 pricepoint

[pimpinc333]

they would have to shuffle pricing again...

they would have to match the 399 40gb ps3 pricepoint

Sure but then more people would have it and use it. The only people that have the HD DVD player at additional cost are the people who want it. Now if if it was already built into the system many gamers/people would probably take advantage of using it ( the same people who otherwise wouldn't buy the add on player ).

It's pretty much all about people trying something. Like I said they may try it since it comes with it and actually really like it unlike now whereas now it doesn't come with it and most regular average joes wouldn't go out and spend another 179.99 on it just to give it a try.

Also anyway you look at it it's pretty much the same price as the PS3 anywho. I'm not sure why they are trying to hide it so much.

This may be incoherent. I'm kinda tired and I tried to word it as best as possible :D

[Sporadic]

How? Thats like saying it was a huge mistake for Sony to put in Blu Ray in the PS3.

It was.

Sony putting Blu-Ray in the PS3 was a very premature decision and they sacrificed a ton of console marketshare for a tiny market/foothold. Since the PS3 wasn't the knockout blow they were imagining it would be, they would have been much better off just eating standalone player cost right out of the gate and attempting to get the PS3's cost back to a more realistic price. It would have had the same effect and it wouldn't have been at the cost of potential PS3 sales.

And while the idea of having a Blu-Ray player in every home with a Playstation may have wooed studios in the beginning; The end result was that it deluded their attach rate, undercut the companies making standalone players and really kind of proved that right now gamers don't care about HD movies (if they did, the current numbers would be a completely different story)

To compare it to a past mistake, it's almost on the level of when Sega decided to focus on online gaming with the Dreamcast. Very good idea but about 3-4 years too early.

If MS were smart they would stay the course, build up their lead and prepare to put a HD-DVD drive in every version of the Xbox 360 successor. That way they don't split their fanbase, don't give the PS3 anymore opportunity to catch up, don't sacrifice any marketshare from added cost, and by the time the 360's successor is announced/released hopefully HDM will be mainstream with people realizing that both formats are here to stay.

The only way a 360 with a built in HD-DVD drive wouldn't be a MASSIVE mistake is if Microsoft confirms that no 360 games will ever utilize it and if it only takes the Elite's place with no added cost.

[KaneRobot]

I'm wondering about the fate of the Add-on .

The Toys R Us clearance is hopefully the first step that will lead to the Elite HD DVD rumor coming true .
The add-on was clearanced over the summer at some places. I don't necessarily think one is related to the other unless we see clearances at multiple retailers.

Major Nelson subtlely mentioned to be ready for a CES/HD DVD announcement
Where? Podcast?

[Sporadic]

Damn, Warner just loves sending me free shit. Just recieved two boxes, one containing another copy of Blade Runner and the other containing Best Of HD-DVD Vol 3 (too bad I bought Departed/Goodfellas during the Amazon BOGO). Both are from canceled orders that are showed as canceled on their site.

They also seemed to mail out my Pan's Labyrinth today, but that's one I actually wanted so they charged me :)

[DomLando]

Damn, Warner just loves sending me free shit. Just recieved two boxes, one containing another copy of Blade Runner and the other containing Best Of HD-DVD Vol 3 (too bad I bought Departed/Goodfellas during the Amazon BOGO). Both are from canceled orders that are showed as canceled on their site.

They also seemed to mail out my Pan's Labyrinth today, but that's one I actually wanted so they charged me :)
Yeah i Just also received the Harry Potter Giftset and Ocean's Trilogy which I canceled. I did not get charged. Are they going to end up charging me or I just got free stuff?

[KaneRobot]

Damn, Warner just loves sending me free shit. Just recieved two boxes, one containing another copy of Blade Runner and the other containing Best Of HD-DVD Vol 3 (too bad I bought Departed/Goodfellas during the Amazon BOGO). Both are from canceled orders that are showed as canceled on their site.

They also seemed to mail out my Pan's Labyrinth today, but that's one I actually wanted so they charged me :)
Awesome. I have a free Blade Runner on the way, but after that, sadly my mega-order-turned-free is exhausted.

[guyver2077]

i still need to get bladerunner...

hook it up

[LinkinPrime]

Damn, Warner just loves sending me free shit. Just recieved two boxes, one containing another copy of Blade Runner and the other containing Best Of HD-DVD Vol 3 (too bad I bought Departed/Goodfellas during the Amazon BOGO). Both are from canceled orders that are showed as canceled on their site.

They also seemed to mail out my Pan's Labyrinth today, but that's one I actually wanted so they charged me :)

I'll take Blade Runner off your hands...I can trade you for Knocked Up or Bourne Ultimatum...both sealed.

[Richlough]

The add-on was clearanced over the summer at some places. I don't necessarily think one is related to the other unless we see clearances at multiple retailers.


Where? Podcast?

Yes , on the podcast . Probably no big deal .

[GizmoGC]

The only way a 360 with a built in HD-DVD drive wouldn't be a MASSIVE mistake is if Microsoft confirms that no 360 games will ever utilize it and if it only takes the Elite's place with no added cost.

From what Ive heard, expect exactly that. $449 Elite with HD DVD drive (though it will be Toshiba's newer one capable of playing 360 games). = Bundled Remote.

[CocheseUGA]

Hmm...B2G1F sale + 360 stuff, or PS3..

:-k

[LinkinPrime]

Hmm...B2G1F sale + 360 stuff, or PS3..

:-k

I'd say go for the B2G1F + 360 stuff...the PS3 can wait. Just get it by next X-Mas, it should have a friendlier price drop then and it should have more games and the couple of hits now will be Greatest Hits by then so win win ;)

[CocheseUGA]

Yeah, but no/gimped BC = no buy. I could still find a 60GB if I'm lucky.

[GizmoGC]

Yeah, but no/gimped BC = no buy. I could still find a 60GB if I'm lucky.

Craigslist?

[CocheseUGA]

Craigslist?

Possibly, but I won't jack the thread any longer.

It's really too bad no giftsets are included in this. I'd jump all over the Ocean's Trilogy in a heartbeat.

[Ice2Dragon]

Theres no way a built in hd dvd player would benefit the 360.

Why?

Cost. It would raise the price of the 360 drastically.. :(

I cant find cat people at any best buy or circuit city damnit

[Sporadic]

Yeah i Just also received the Harry Potter Giftset and Ocean's Trilogy which I canceled. I did not get charged. Are they going to end up charging me or I just got free stuff?

When I called Warner back it a few months ago, they said they it shown as cancelled in the system, they had no records of a package going out, they wouldn't charge me and that I could either keep it or pay money out of my own pocket to send it back. To quote the phone person "HEY FREE MOVIES :bouncy: JUST KEEP THEM"

I'll take Blade Runner off your hands...I can trade you for Knocked Up or Bourne Ultimatum...both sealed.

Sorry, I already have a sealed copy of Knocked Up I am trying to get rid of and I already have the Bourne Trilogy.

From what Ive heard, expect exactly that. $449 Elite with HD DVD drive (though it will be Toshiba's newer one capable of playing 360 games). = Bundled Remote.

Now that wouldn't be half bad.

[CocheseUGA]

If you're looking to sell, I may be interested (again).

[KaneRobot]

Theres no way a built in hd dvd player would benefit the 360.

Why?

Cost. It would raise the price of the 360 drastically.. :(

...well, if you believe the rumors (LOLZ), it would be $450. Approximately the price of an Elite. Once again, MS would find a way to circumvent an out-and-out price drop across the board by just throwing more stuff into another SKU, and shifting the older models down in price instead.

It's a gesture I don't entirely disagree with. Heck, if they really do go through with it I'm tempted to get one myself. I just think if they were going to do this it really would have helped if they got it done over the summer and just charged a little more instead of doing it now. With 2007 (and what was likely the biggest wave of holiday hype the console will have) gone, I'd expect XMas '08 will show the first cracks in the foundation that will eventually give way to a new console in...2010?

[Ikohn4ever]

anyone know a number to contact the HD DVD rebate people, just got my order today and one of the movie cases is broken outside and inside.

[LinkinPrime]

Merry Christmas to me! I just got home from work and waiting for me were 3 boxes from WHV...Now I don't have any pending orders from them. The order I had was for Harry Potter 1-5 Giftset and Ocean's Giftset. After waiting so long, I decided to use the card that had been authorized for the purchase and due to X-Mas it was maxed out and could not meed the authorization back in October so they canceled my order. I got an email confirming my cancellation and I myexpresscheckout.com showed that they were canceled. Now I open up all 3 boxes and I get 3 Harry Poter 1-5 Giftsets...WTF!? I kinda feel bad, I'm ok with paying for one of them and returning the other 2 to WB after all, I don't want to take money away from HD DVD ;)

[Ikohn4ever]

Merry Christmas to me! I just got home from work and waiting for me were 3 boxes from WHV...Now I don't have any pending orders from them. The order I had was for Harry Potter 1-5 Giftset and Ocean's Giftset. After waiting so long, I decided to use the card that had been authorized for the purchase and due to X-Mas it was maxed out and could not meed the authorization back in October so they canceled my order. I got an email confirming my cancellation and I myexpresscheckout.com showed that they were canceled. Now I open up all 3 boxes and I get 3 Harry Poter 1-5 Giftsets...WTF!? I kinda feel bad, I'm ok with paying for one of them and returning the other 2 to WB after all, I don't want to take money away from HD DVD ;)



i might be interested in buying/trading for one of those box sets

[LinkinPrime]

i might be interested in buying/trading for one of those box sets

I don't know yet. I'm worried that I may get charged at some point for them. As for your question on the rebate, check this thread, the actual rebate has a number to call:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148214

[thrustbucket]

From what Ive heard, expect exactly that. $449 Elite with HD DVD drive (though it will be Toshiba's newer one capable of playing 360 games). = Bundled Remote.


The only way that would can happen is if that new Toshiba drive can do 12x DVD speeds. Even still, I don't think it would be a great idea. I would rather them wait and shock everyone with a 360 SKU that has a purple player in it.

Also, just came back from a 6 haul from BB:

Eastern Promises
Pan's Labyrinth (Linkin, according to the case it does not have english dub)
Stardust (Peeled the stupid 34.99 yellow sticker off the 29.99 price tag and made them match it)
Face Off
Blade Runner
The Kingdom

[Ikohn4ever]

I don't know yet. I'm worried that I may get charged at some point for them. As for your question on the rebate, check this thread, the actual rebate has a number to call:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148214



thanx

[DeskLaser]

If this has been mentioned before, I apologize, but are there any CAGs that would be interested in a CAG OOTP Live Community Screening now that Christmas gifts have been received? Now that some more of us may have this title from gifts (myself included), it might be fun to give this feature a test and see how it goes.

[CocheseUGA]

How does that work?

[KaneRobot]

I do want to test that - on paper, it's my favorite HD DVD feature to date. However, I haven't seen the first four HP movies (they are on the way from Amazon though) and I'd rather not watch part 5 first. Not that you guys have to wait for me or anything, but I'd be up for it next week.

[gsr]

The only way that would can happen is if that new Toshiba drive can do 12x DVD speeds. Even still, I don't think it would be a great idea. I would rather them wait and shock everyone with a 360 SKU that has a purple player in it.

Also, just came back from a 6 haul from BB:

Eastern Promises
Pan's Labyrinth (Linkin, according to the case it does not have english dub)
Stardust (Peeled the stupid 34.99 yellow sticker off the 29.99 price tag and made them match it)
Face Off
Blade Runner
The Kingdom

amirm (from MS) has already said that MS will not develop a bluray addon (or purple solution) until Sony offers an HD-DVD add-on for the ps3

[KaneRobot]

I know that the Best Buy B2G1 sale isn't anything special, but at least it amounts to approximately Amazon prices with no wait for shipping. With that said, I just picked up:

The Aviator
Purple Rain
Pan's Labrynth

Bringing my total for the week, including stuff that is still on the way this week, to 14.

[anomynous]

I bought the Will Ferrel 3 Pack from BB online


Gift Cards FTW

[Ikohn4ever]

I know that the Best Buy B2G1 sale isn't anything special, but at least it amounts to approximately Amazon prices with no wait for shipping. With that said, I just picked up:

The Aviator
Purple Rain
Pan's Labrynth

Bringing my total for the week, including stuff that is still on the way this week, to 14.


you need to return it and exchange with the deal starting on the 30th, buy 3 get 2 free.

[KaneRobot]

you need to return it and exchange with the deal starting on the 30th, buy 3 get 2 free.
Feh. I would, but I only paid for one title anyway thanks to a gift card.

I'll have to remind my HD DVD-rookie friend of that upcoming sale, though. Hopefully I'll avoid it, I've been spending too much on this stuff again lately.

[ryanbph]

anyone see the kingdom? How is it as a movie? Is it worth buying the HD DVD version of?

[LinkinPrime]

For those of you that haven't seen this on the HD DVD deals section:
Amazon has a B1G1F on selected titles that include the first 4 Harry Potter movies, Knocked Up + others all at $19.99 ea.:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_6102152_4?ie=UTF8&docId=1000183001&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0RB3SNPBVC99NY62MMVX&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=344066701&pf_rd_i=193642011

[KaneRobot]

Yeah, I finally got Hot Fuzz and Children of Men with that - for under 23 bucks, no less. God bless that 10% discount, which will be fucking SORELY missed after this week.

Also cancelled an earlier order for Potter 3 + 4 and got both of them here for 15 and change. Thanks to a giftcard, all 4 movies were free...and I've still got like 12 bucks left on the card.

[thrustbucket]

anyone see the kingdom? How is it as a movie? Is it worth buying the HD DVD version of?

I thought it was really good. And yes, probably worth buying.

[Sporadic]

Yeah, I finally got Hot Fuzz and Children of Men with that - for under 23 bucks, no less. God bless that 10% discount, which will be fucking SORELY missed after this week.

Also cancelled an earlier order for Potter 3 + 4 and got both of them here for 15 and change. Thanks to a giftcard, all 4 movies were free...and I've still got like 12 bucks left on the card.

Good for you, Hot Fuzz is great (even though it isn't better than Shaun Of The Dead or Spaced) and alot of people seem to like Children Of Men (I didn't, the ending was blah)

I ended up with Serenity and Traffic. Both blind buys and I know Traffic is supposedly horrible looking but for $10 a pop, I figured why not. The normal Traffic DVD would have run me $10 alone.

This and a few trades I made put me at the 77 movie mark. Thankfully, the only thing on the horizon I really want is Zodiac/Bonnie & Clyde/Before the Devil Knows You're Dead so my poor wallet can take a breather.

[Sarang01]

For those wondering about Potter 5 it's not bad but cuts too much from the book. Sirius's relationship with Kreacher is softened and Kreacher has almost no role in the film.
There's no picture of Sirius's mother shrieking in Grimmauld Place. Grimmauld Place looks too modern from the outside IMO.
For the good: The woman playing Tonks is great and Luna isn't bad. In regards to Imelda she nails the character but her voice doesn't match Umbridge's from the book. I also think she flips out a little more then Umbridge in the book. Those stupid kitties are still around though.
I wish they would make Potter as long as LOTR to be faithful to the books and spend close to it on the SE. I think the audience could sit through it being at least 3 hours long, maybe a little over that.
The focus points are NOT in HD btw or at least what I saw looked like SD unless they counted the movie footage shown as part of it.

[LinkinPrime]

Here's a sneak peak at Hellboy II: The Golden Army
http://www.movieweb.com/news/88/25288.php
Which will be exclusive to HD DVD!

[Ikohn4ever]

For those wondering about Potter 5 it's not bad but cuts too much from the book. Sirius's relationship with Kreacher is softened and Kreacher has almost no role in the film.
There's no picture of Sirius's mother shrieking in Grimmauld Place. Grimmauld Place looks too modern from the outside IMO.
For the good: The woman playing Tonks is great and Luna isn't bad. In regards to Imelda she nails the character but her voice doesn't match Umbridge's from the book. I also think she flips out a little more then Umbridge in the book. Those stupid kitties are still around though.
I wish they would make Potter as long as LOTR to be faithful to the books and spend close to it on the SE. I think the audience could sit through it being at least 3 hours long, maybe a little over that.
The focus points are NOT in HD btw or at least what I saw looked like SD unless they counted the movie footage shown as part of it.



well they were going to not have Kreacher in the movie, but JK talked them into it, so thats why his character was bare bones

[Sarang01]

well they were going to not have Kreacher in the movie, but JK talked them into it, so thats why his character was bare bones

I thought JK had a lot more control over the movies like who got cast and so on.

[Ikohn4ever]

I thought JK had a lot more control over the movies like who got cast and so on.



ehh she is mostly hands off from what I have read, besides everyone being british or at least not American, but she made sure Kreacher was in it for continuity when book 7 becomes a movie.

[Sarang01]

ehh she is mostly hands off from what I have read, besides everyone being british or at least not American, but she made sure Kreacher was in it for continuity when book 7 becomes a movie.

No wonder they miscast Umbridge. Staunton's voice is clearly not perfect for it. If you read the book you know what I mean. Her body frame isn't necessarily the best either.
Kreacher is a pretty big part of #7 I'll agree.
Jeez I'm mad. So this is why Warner have to be such cheap assholes and won't give it 3 hour LOTR treatment. What bullshit. I WANT an extended edition of Order, Azkaban and Goblet. I haven't seen Secrets and am more indifferent about Sorcerer's Stone.
Now I wanna chew Rowling out.

[thrustbucket]

Man I've never ever been able to give more than two shits for the Potter books or movies. I saw some of the movies and found myself only enjoying the special effects and score. The story was way too average for me, compared to other kid fiction. Never understood it's appeal. Wish I could get into it and be a rabid fan like all the cool kids, but never could.

I always felt the professor characters were by far the most interesting and I'd definitely love to see a movie based on them.

[KaneRobot]

Blade Runner and Potter 1 & 2 arrived today. I'm falling way behind on my watching, but that's fine with me.

[Ice2Dragon]

heartbreak kid had great pq/aq

But the movie overall was a letdown...

Was anyone else's audio a bit low for eastern promises? I had to crank it to -22db to get anything legible :(

[guyver2077]

hbk should be arriving today.. i had preordered it at the 17.95 price

i saw it in theatres.. it was ok.. atleast pq/aq is good

[Richlough]

Just a head's up , Sleepy Hallow has been deleted from BB's system , it is in a Starter Pack there though .
I wanted to get it with this weeks deal .
I did manage to find the last $14.96 Clerks II at a local Wal*Mart .

[Sarang01]

Man I've never ever been able to give more than two shits for the Potter books or movies. I saw some of the movies and found myself only enjoying the special effects and score. The story was way too average for me, compared to other kid fiction. Never understood it's appeal. Wish I could get into it and be a rabid fan like all the cool kids, but never could.

I always felt the professor characters were by far the most interesting and I'd definitely love to see a movie based on them.

Try reading the books and compare them to the movies. Seriously.

[guyver2077]

pan's just arrived.. now lets see what all the fuss is about

[thrustbucket]

pan's just arrived.. now lets see what all the fuss is about

You'll probably feel it's over-rated. It's just a very good movie that nobody has heard of. But then again, almost all of Guiermo Del Toro's movies are very good, especially visually.

[KaneRobot]

now lets see what all the fuss is about

No no no no no. Don't go into it thinking all the hype is going to deliver more than you could possibly imagine. I read all this positive stuff about it and thought when I went to the theater it was going to just completely floor me, and I was left underwhelmed to say the least.

I picked it up yesterday because after having time to think about it, it definitely was a well done film. I just went in with ridiculously high expectations. Just watching it for what it is today, I got more out of it.

[thrustbucket]

No no no no no. Don't go into it thinking all the hype is going to deliver more than you could possibly imagine. I read all this positive stuff about it and thought when I went to the theater it was going to just completely floor me, and I was left underwhelmed to say the least.

I picked it up yesterday because after having time to think about it, it definitely was a well done film. I just went in with ridiculously high expectations. Just watching it for what it is today, I got more out of it.

Agreed. Compared to most of the drivel that is mass marketed to us in theaters today, it's a very good film. But it will not be an earth shattering life altering experience. You'll just appreciate a very good original story that's finely crafted with care and precision rarely seen in today's American cinema.

Eastern Promises is another movie that fits this bill. At least rent, if not buy, that one.

[sonicfreak5]

getting my 32" vizio sat. and getting my hd-dvd player for 360 tommorow.
I plan on taking advantage of the BB sale tommorow and getting Hot Fuzz, Beerfest and Clerks 2

[doctorfaustus]

getting my 32" vizio sat. and getting my hd-dvd player for 360 tommorow.
I plan on taking advantage of the BB sale tommorow and getting Hot Fuzz, Beerfest and Clerks 2

Welcome to HD DVD!

[Ice2Dragon]

You'll probably feel it's over-rated. It's just a very good movie that nobody has heard of. But then again, almost all of Guiermo Del Toro's movies are very good, especially visually.

No one's ever heard of? It won a crap load of awards and made millions more than in theaters off of dvd rentals.. hardly say thats "no one's ever heard of"

@_@

[ALMEHDAAOL]

Anybody willing to trade for Hot Fuzz or Surburbia on HD-DVD? I got both on HD-DVD and looking for Shaun of the Dead and the Big Lebowski.

If so - email me at ALMEHDA@AOL.COM.

[guyver2077]

Welcome to HD DVD!

flashbacks of the "welcome to hd dvd" promos on older titles..


that rocked

[KaneRobot]

flashbacks of the "welcome to hd dvd" promos on older titles..


that rocked
"Everything you know about DVD just got a whole lot BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH"

"I WAS PRACTICING DOING SOME...WIRE WORK..."

[guyver2077]

"Everything you know about DVD just got a whole lot BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH"

"I WAS PRACTICING DOING SOME...WIRE WORK..."

yup thats the one!

[mykevermin]

Anybody willing to trade for Hot Fuzz or Surburbia on HD-DVD? I got both on HD-DVD and looking for Shaun of the Dead and the Big Lebowski.

If so - email me at ALMEHDA@AOL.COM.

Suburbia? Like the Roger Corman flick? On HD DVD?

[ryanbph]

Not sure if it was the disc or the 360 hd dvd add on...I finally got around to watching smoking aces. It is the combo disc, and I had let my friend borrow it awhile ago to watch it on the dvd side. Towards the end of the movie on the hd dvd side, it would freeze up, skip forward and a whole bunch of time delay problems were happening. I tried taking the disc out, made sure there were no scratches and put it back in. Same thing happened again. It was even a problem trying to fast forward it. Is this a hardware issue with my hd dvd player, or a faulty disc? Granted I will be watching another movie tonight, but I just wanted to know if anyone else has had these problems from the hardware side of things so I could be prepared that the movie tonight won't work.

[Sporadic]

Not sure if it was the disc or the 360 hd dvd add on...I finally got around to watching smoking aces. It is the combo disc, and I had let my friend borrow it awhile ago to watch it on the dvd side. Towards the end of the movie on the hd dvd side, it would freeze up, skip forward and a whole bunch of time delay problems were happening. I tried taking the disc out, made sure there were no scratches and put it back in. Same thing happened again. It was even a problem trying to fast forward it. Is this a hardware issue with my hd dvd player, or a faulty disc? Granted I will be watching another movie tonight, but I just wanted to know if anyone else has had these problems from the hardware side of things so I could be prepared that the movie tonight won't work.

Sounds like a bad disc. I remember that title having issues.

I'd contact Universal.

[ryanbph]

thank you sporadic

[guyver2077]

Suburbia? Like the Roger Corman flick? On HD DVD?

he may have meant disturbia

[SteveMcQ]

Picked up an A3 for the guest room. Having some audio problems at set up so I hope someone can help me out.

I connected it to the TV with HDMI and the receiver via optical. It's outputting via the optical fine now, but I still get fed sound through the TV and there's a slight delay there causing a slight echo. I couldn't find a way in the player menu to cut down the audio signal feeding through the HDMI. Am I just missing it? Right now, I have to either cut off the speakers of the TV (which means the guest will have to go into the menu and turn it back on for the TV) or just turn the volume down. A slight inconvenience.

Thanks.

[thrustbucket]

Picked up an A3 for the guest room. Having some audio problems at set up so I hope someone can help me out.


HD for the "guest room"?

Can I be your guest?

Better yet, can you get me a job where you work? ;)

[Jedi1979]

well this is wierd...i finally found a replacement for my severly dented HD DVD Forbidden planet set at Best buy and now when i opened it it looks like it just has the regular DVD 2 disc set with no mention of HD DVD anywhere on the discs, the carboard wrap around the tin definately states HD DVD...anybody ever heard of this?

[KaneRobot]

he may have meant disturbia
I tuned that guy out because I thought for sure he meant Disturbia, but if Suburbia is out in some region for HD DVD, someone point me to it.

[guyver2077]

hbk, mummy returns, and serenity just arrived :)

seriously i think i have a backlog of over 15 movies that i have yet to watch

[Sporadic]

hbk, mummy returns, and serenity just arrived :)

seriously i think i have a backlog of over 15 movies that i have yet to watch

I know the feeling.

I still have to watch Bourne Supremacy/Ultimatum, Blade Runner, Eastern Promises, Frighteners, Polar Express, Traffic, Serenity and Troy: Director Cut.

That isn't counting the DVDs I have and The Kingdom HD-DVD from Blockbuster Online.

[guyver2077]

yea i have yet to see supremacy/ult and troy either...

plus a few bd titles as well

[SteveMcQ]

That is the last time I let a combo disc keep me from buying a movie. Hot Fuzz was fucking awesome.

[KaneRobot]

I'm been furiously watching away, but I'm still backed up on multiple versions of Blade Runner (including the Final Cut), The Aviator, and Harry Potter 2 & 5. Hot Fuzz and Children of Men will be here tomorrow, with Harry Potter 3 & 4 early next week. Plus whatever I get after I inevitably get sucked into that buy 3 / get 2 sale at Best Buy.

[Ice2Dragon]

Picked up an A3 for the guest room. Having some audio problems at set up so I hope someone can help me out.

I connected it to the TV with HDMI and the receiver via optical. It's outputting via the optical fine now, but I still get fed sound through the TV and there's a slight delay there causing a slight echo. I couldn't find a way in the player menu to cut down the audio signal feeding through the HDMI. Am I just missing it? Right now, I have to either cut off the speakers of the TV (which means the guest will have to go into the menu and turn it back on for the TV) or just turn the volume down. A slight inconvenience.

Thanks.

did you update the firmware?

Did you change the settings on the setup menu to the correct audio input?

the only reason youd get a signal feedback through either source is because both are plugged in when they shouldnt be.

[Sporadic]

I just watched The Kingdom and holy shit is it a stinker.

I haven't cringed that much during a movie in years.

[thrustbucket]

I just watched The Kingdom and holy shit is it a stinker.

I haven't cringed that much during a movie in years.

Why? I know quite a few people that have seen it that thought it was enjoyable. I don't know anyone that thought it was terrible.

[Deadpool]

I just watched The Kingdom and holy shit is it a stinker.

I haven't cringed that much during a movie in years.

I enjoyed it greatly. It felt like one of the old hong kong detective stories that ends in some crazy action scene.

[greydt]

Why? I know quite a few people that have seen it that thought it was enjoyable. I don't know anyone that thought it was terrible.

Personally, the part of the plot I wasn't too thrilled about was:

The good guys only found the bad guys because they were attacked and they followed them back to their hideout. This is pretty much my biggest complaint - the deus ex machina was too blatant.

Heck, I would have accepted even some kind of CSI babble to link point a to point b.


However, it has one of the more decent tactical gunfights I've seen in recent history. I would probably recommend this movie as a rent, but caveat it for the weak plotting.

Was it just me, or did anyone else find the dolby digital plus soundtrack on the HD-DVD a bit weak? The sound had to be cranked up, and it didn't utilize the surrounds too much. (I thought it might be the calibration of my system, but the opening studio logo music was loud and rich in comparison)

[LinkinPrime]

Bee Movie - March 11th:
http://www.minhembio.com/forum/uploads/monthly_12_2007/post-51610-1198890074.jpg

[Sporadic]

Why? I know quite a few people that have seen it that thought it was enjoyable. I don't know anyone that thought it was terrible.

It's a star-vehicle that is packed to the gills with cliches, bullshit character/story development, everything that is "hot" in Hollywood right now (shaky-cam all over, arabs, attempting to add a super deep meaning at the end) topped off with the director clumsily trying to pull your heartstrings.

I can imagine the guys at Universal going :bouncy: we got an oscar/golden globe winning blockbuster on our hands :bouncy:

It's lame on an even worse level than Babel or Crash.

[Ruined]

Not sure if it was the disc or the 360 hd dvd add on...I finally got around to watching smoking aces. It is the combo disc, and I had let my friend borrow it awhile ago to watch it on the dvd side. Towards the end of the movie on the hd dvd side, it would freeze up, skip forward and a whole bunch of time delay problems were happening. I tried taking the disc out, made sure there were no scratches and put it back in. Same thing happened again. It was even a problem trying to fast forward it. Is this a hardware issue with my hd dvd player, or a faulty disc? Granted I will be watching another movie tonight, but I just wanted to know if anyone else has had these problems from the hardware side of things so I could be prepared that the movie tonight won't work.

Yeah, Smokin' Aces had a bad run, Uni will replace it for you.

[LinkinPrime]

Yeah, Smokin' Aces had a bad run, Uni will replace it for you.

Shit...I gotta open mine and check it out.

[KaneRobot]

Anyone going for the B3G2 Best Buy thing, I recommend buying online as their selection is larger and shipping is free. Three of the discs I bought are not available in-store. I got all $25 titles so it came out to under 16 per disc. If you get more than one $30 title it sort of kills the deal if you still have your Amazon discount, but if not it's not too bad.

+The Hurricane
+Being John Malkovich
+The Last Starfighter
+Hustle & Flow
+Serenity


Those are all non-Warner, I try to stay away from Warner stuff on sales like this since you'll always get the best price on their stuff directly from them.

[Sporadic]

A 1080p rip of Island Fever 4 with full screenshots is up at Empornium.

Thankfully (from what I saw from the screenshots) it's slightly soft and not as rough as Girlvana 3 (which was eye-scarringly horrible from the skanks they had)

- edit I guess I could post one image as long as I edit it. I don't know if this was taken from the HD-DVD or the compressed file he made.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3358/screenshot1mj4.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1mj4.jpg)

[Ice2Dragon]

Anyone going for the B3G2 Best Buy thing, I recommend buying online as their selection is larger and shipping is free. Three of the discs I bought are not available in-store. I got all $25 titles so it came out to under 16 per disc. If you get more than one $30 title it sort of kills the deal if you still have your Amazon discount, but if not it's not too bad.

+The Hurricane
+Being John Malkovich
+The Last Starfighter
+Hustle & Flow
+Serenity


Those are all non-Warner, I try to stay away from Warner stuff on sales like this since you'll always get the best price on their stuff directly from them.

Yeah.. my best buy's hd dvd selections. for all 3 stores here in ohio. Suckk

Buying online is just the better way to go for this sale :( But my hd dvd player died, and even with the warranty at best buy I still am waiting another two weeks.

They said theyd either fix it, or if they can't,(disc drive made loud buzzing noise, louder than a 360, froze constantly, etc) they'd give me my 423.xx back and let me get an HD-A40 the new one for the same price.

So hopefully it wont get fixed -_-V

[Bezerker]

Anyone going for the B3G2 Best Buy thing, I recommend buying online as their selection is larger and shipping is free. Three of the discs I bought are not available in-store. I got all $25 titles so it came out to under 16 per disc. If you get more than one $30 title it sort of kills the deal if you still have your Amazon discount, but if not it's not too bad.

+The Hurricane
+Being John Malkovich
+The Last Starfighter
+Hustle & Flow
+Serenity


Those are all non-Warner, I try to stay away from Warner stuff on sales like this since you'll always get the best price on their stuff directly from them.


Amazon has both The Hurricane & Serenity for $19.95 total with B1G1F. $9.95 a disc sounds better than $16. May want to cancel your order and select another two movies.

[KaneRobot]

Too late to cancel...plus I spent so long finding 5 movies I even wanted that I don't really care at this point. If I figure out something else I can always exchange one of them at the store when they arrive I guess.

[captainfrizo]

A 1080p rip of Island Fever 4 with full screenshots is up at Empornium.


It's over 12GB. That's one huge torrent.

[guyver2077]

It's over 12GB. That's one huge torrent.

downloading now lol

[rsigley]

They said theyd either fix it, or if they can't,(disc drive made loud buzzing noise, louder than a 360, froze constantly, etc) they'd give me my 423.xx back and let me get an HD-A40 the new one for the same price.

So hopefully it wont get fixed -_-V

what is the HD-A40

never heard of it

[guyver2077]

4th gen isnt out yet

edit- some one just purchased my open a3 without upc for 169..not bad. O well ive been using my a2 lately anyways

edit- may end up issuing refund since the buyer didnt read that the two movies were not included

[Ice2Dragon]

what is the HD-A40

never heard of it

It is. my best buy has it, they showed it to me ^_^ They said they will give it to me for the price I paid for the HD-A3 i have thats broken if they can't repair it @_@

[LinkinPrime]

It is. my best buy has it, they showed it to me ^_^ They said they will give it to me for the price I paid for the HD-A3 i have thats broken if they can't repair it @_@

HD-A40 doens't exists, it hasn't even been announced by Toshiba.

[rsigley]

yea you might be confused

gen 3 just came out in october, no way gen 4 would be out already

[captainfrizo]

downloading now lol

Same. :lol:

[Sporadic]

Jeez, you guys would just be better off paying the $35 for it instead of actually trying to download it.

http://se.adultdvdpacific.com/item.asp?ItemID=836080

I just mentioned it because it has a ton of screenshots with it. I know alot of people are curious what 1080p porn looks like.

[hec204]

A 12g porno? wtf is wrong with you guys!

[captainfrizo]

A 12g porno? wtf is wrong with you guys!

I'm doing a comparison between the standard def version of the movie and the HD version. Yeah, that's it...

[guyver2077]

Jeez, you guys would just be better off paying the $35 for it instead of actually trying to download it.

http://se.adultdvdpacific.com/item.asp?ItemID=836080

I just mentioned it because it has a ton of screenshots with it. I know alot of people are curious what 1080p porn looks like.

i used to just rent em back in the day.. adultdvd empire or some shit like that..

i think u can now rent the hd ones too

[guyver2077]

fuck man.. no wonder i decided to stick with the a2..

.. i was going to throw in the 300 hd combo disk with the a3 i just sold on amazon... when i go to try it now...it doesnt fucking work.. Im going to have to give my hd only copy now..

they need another compat. update asap

edit-the disc loads and then when the warner ad comes up.. i get the purple "system error occurred" msg

[KaneRobot]

10% Amazon discount is still working for me.

[rsigley]

finally used the bookmark function (blades of glory, ferrell + fischer bedroom scene :D)

pretty cool

looks like jan gonna be pretty boring in terms of releases, feb needs to get here quick

i wanna get a new TV, anyone have the sony a3000? the rear projection one?

[guyver2077]

yea jan is going to be a pretty sad month.. shame too since there was some momentum built in december

[Sporadic]

Everyone should buy The Pianist when it comes out. It is fantastic and destroys Schindler's List IMO.

I'm also looking forward to Zodiac. I missed that one in theaters.

[rsigley]

yea those are the two i want for january

maybe i'll get The Invasion too from WHV

feb i'm looking to pick up into the wild, valley of elah, michael clayton, assassination of jesse james, beowulf, justice league

[Richlough]

Everyone should buy The Pianist when it comes out. It is fantastic and destroys Schindler's List IMO.


I want it , I already own it on DVD too .

[Sporadic]

yea those are the two i want for january

maybe i'll get The Invasion too from WHV

feb i'm looking to pick up into the wild, valley of elah, michael clayton, assassination of jesse james, beowulf, justice league

Feburary is completely dead for me buywise. I'll end up renting Into The Wild, Jesse James, Micheal Clayton and Things We Lost In The Fire.

Which is a good thing because March and early April are going to hurt.

Bonnie & Clyde
UFC: The Best of 2007
IMAX: Coral Reef Adventure
IMAX: Fighter Pilot - Operation Red Flag
UFO: Showtime
Before the Devil Knows You're Dead

I want it , I already own it on DVD too .

If it's anything like the UK import, you shouldn't be disappointed.

[Wet Ninja]

i wanna get a new TV, anyone have the sony a3000? the rear projection one?

I just got the KDS-60A3000 a week and a half ago. I bought it from Crutchfield (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-IBlc2KGeJ4O/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?I=15860a3000&search=kds60a3000)for $1699 + tax (special phone price - just call them and mention you heard there is a special price if ordering over the phone...if they have any left). If you're looking to get one, you'd better act fast; Sony is getting out of the rear projection market, so the A3000 series is discontinued.

It's my first HDTV (an upgrade from a 10-year-old 36" 800x600 computer monitor), so I've been very pleased with the picture quality. The picture gets a little darker when you view it away from the horizontal or vertical sweet spot, but it's nowhere near as bad as reviews led me to believe; I find it very acceptable. Otherwise, I have no complaints about it at all. I'm really loving the size; 60" is huge for my living room, and it really makes for an immersive picture.

I'm waiting for my HDMI cables to come from Monoprice.com (they should arrive tomorrow), so I've seen the picture only through component cables so far. I've watched 1080i output from my cable box and 1080p output through my 360, and I watched an HD-DVD (300) on my HD-A30. 300 looked slightly grainy, though I'm not sure if that was an intentional (read:artistic) effect of the filmmaking, or a result of using component cables instead of HDMI. Everything else looks amazing on it, especially Discovery Channel HD. It's amazing what a difference it's made in 360 games, too; I played a lot of Halo 3 on my old TV, but there were so many details I didn't notice until I played it on this TV (for example, the lines from Master Chief's visor on the screen).

I definitely recommend the TV. It's hard to beat the size and quality for the price. If there are any specific questions you'd like me to answer, let me know and I'll be happy to help. I can also post pictures if you'd like.

[KaneRobot]

I may get Zodiac, but the first two months of the year are frighteningly barren. I'm pretty disappointed that the HD DVD side would make the same fucking mistake two years in a row...yes, it's not as bad as the utter drought of last year, but considering the momentum they built up during the last several months, they should be rolling along at a strong clip now. I hope they have some bombshells for March and beyond to announced at CES - which I'm not counting on since they don't seem to be that big on announcing titles at CES - because if they go all the way into April again with nothing noteworthy, it'll do a lot more to kill the format than any Blu-Ray price drops.

I also hope they at least tease some 4th gen players...not showing anything would likely be interpreted as them getting ready to give up.

[rsigley]

I definitely recommend the TV. It's hard to beat the size and quality for the price. If there are any specific questions you'd like me to answer, let me know and I'll be happy to help. I can also post pictures if you'd like.

nice thanks, sounds like a good tv, think i'll order it in the morning

i was gonna get it from Crutchfield too, but Vann's has the 60 inch + the $400 stand for 1999 free shipping no tax

i seen it at the sony store over the weekend and was gonna buy it there, but its so over priced there

right now i only got 37 inch 720p, been putting off watching movies because i wanted to wait til i got 1080p

[dg7md]

The line-up so far for all of '08 doesn't look that good at all. Hopefully there are some recent announcements for some releases on-par with Transformers on the recent films side.

[LinkinPrime]

The line-up so far for all of '08 doesn't look that good.

Patience young padawan...just wait for CES (http://www.cesweb.org/default.asp) next week, I'm sure we'll hear all kinds of good stuff...atleast that's what I'm expecting.

Finaly picked up Blade Runner...I'll check it out sometime this week...I'm watching WAR tonight.

[Ice2Dragon]

I cant wait for White Noise 2 Personally.

*correction* called best buy and talked to the manager there who helped me before.

He said, once again, HD-A40. -_-V Im pretty sure he means HD-A35.

But hey he works at best buy and not me :(

[KaneRobot]

I cant wait for White Noise 2 Personally.

*correction* called best buy and talked to the manager there who helped me before.

He said, once again, HD-A40. -_-V Im pretty sure he means HD-A35.

But hey he works at best buy and not me :(

You should ask "if I come down there and you don't have the HD-A40, will you let me pick out a free substitute player?"

[Ruined]

10% Amazon discount is still working for me.

Mine is done :/

[asianxcore]

I'm really excited to picking up Zodiac (DC). It was one of my Top 5 of 2007 and I decided to wait it out to get the HD release.

Other than that the announcements thus far aren't exciting. Then again like Linkin mentioned, CES might change that.

I'm a little behind on picking up more of the Kubrick films on HD, so I might do that this year. I still want to pick up 2001 on HD.

[ryanbph]

I am fairly sure I had seen these movies talked about earlier in the thread, but is war and shoot em up coming to hd dvd via USA release or are they only blu ray titles?

[thrustbucket]

I am fairly sure I had seen these movies talked about earlier in the thread, but is war and shoot em up coming to hd dvd via USA release or are they only blu ray titles?

I don't know about War, but Shoot em up is coming. New Line Cinema has said they are delaying HD DVD releases such as Shoot Em Up and Hairspray because of region coding.

They don't want to release region free movies on any format until those movies have played their theatrical course in every region.

[LinkinPrime]

I wonder how long it takes though. Hairspray has been out here for quite sometime, not that I care for that movie but I'm definately waiting on Shootem Up.

[rsigley]

i been reading april for all three newline titles

[mykevermin]

What's the third New Line title?

[pinoy530]

Patience young padawan...just wait for CES (http://www.cesweb.org/default.asp) next week, I'm sure we'll hear all kinds of good stuff...atleast that's what I'm expecting.

Finaly picked up Blade Runner...I'll check it out sometime this week...I'm watching WAR tonight.

IIRC, CES was a bust HD DVD wise last year for announcements. Although, shortly there after Matrix was announced.

[rsigley]

mr woodcock

[Wet Ninja]

I got an HD-DVD player for Christmas, but I haven't bought any HD-DVDs for it yet. I plan on mainly picking up new movies on HD-DVD as they are released. Most of the movies I'd want that have been released to date I already own on DVD. That said, what do you all do if there's an HD-DVD version of a DVD you already own? Do you buy it again? If so, what do you do with your DVD version? Do you sell it to try to recoup some of your costs?

[Sporadic]

I got an HD-DVD player for Christmas, but I haven't bought any HD-DVDs for it yet. I plan on mainly picking up new movies on HD-DVD as they are released. Most of the movies I'd want that have been released to date I already own on DVD. That said, what do you all do if there's an HD-DVD version of a DVD you already own? Do you buy it again? If so, what do you do with your DVD version? Do you sell it to try to recoup some of your costs?

I didn't have a ton of DVDs but if there was a HD-DVD released and I had the DVD, I'll sell the DVD and put that money towards the HD-DVD release.

I've gotten pretty lucky, I sold my Fear & Loathing Criterion for the same price as the HD-DVD and sold Shaun Of The Dead/Eternal Sunshine for $10 each.

[Stingermck]

I got an HD-DVD player for Christmas, but I haven't bought any HD-DVDs for it yet. I plan on mainly picking up new movies on HD-DVD as they are released. Most of the movies I'd want that have been released to date I already own on DVD. That said, what do you all do if there's an HD-DVD version of a DVD you already own? Do you buy it again? If so, what do you do with your DVD version? Do you sell it to try to recoup some of your costs?

When I bought my player this time last year, I went through my DVD collection and pulled every title I had that was on HD or was announced. Traded them at Movie Stop with the 4 for 1 deal they had. That took care of plenty of new releases on HD, and every week or so, I'd pick up a few of the catalog titles i still needed to replace. Last few weeks with these bogo sales, I finally caught up.

And the crickets may be chirping, but I got 10 titles with best buys deal, and Rambo II coming from Xploited :)

[CocheseUGA]

I got an HD-DVD player for Christmas, but I haven't bought any HD-DVDs for it yet. I plan on mainly picking up new movies on HD-DVD as they are released. Most of the movies I'd want that have been released to date I already own on DVD. That said, what do you all do if there's an HD-DVD version of a DVD you already own? Do you buy it again? If so, what do you do with your DVD version? Do you sell it to try to recoup some of your costs?

I've picked up stuff I don't have, with two exceptions.

[DestroVega]

I didn't have a ton of DVDs but if there was a HD-DVD released and I had the DVD, I'll sell the DVD and put that money towards the HD-DVD release.

I've gotten pretty lucky, I sold my Fear & Loathing Criterion for the same price as the HD-DVD and sold Shaun Of The Dead/Eternal Sunshine for $10 each.

I would have kept the Criterion... depending on how good the DVD sets are, I buy the better looking picture, but keep the old set for the slew of extras... Hellboy being a good example.

[KaneRobot]

highdefdigest:

For HD DVD fans, Paramount/DreamWorks' Kelly Avery said the two studios will issue an extensive slate of both new releases and catalog titles, including the blockbusters 'Bee Movie' and 'Beowulf' (which have both already been announced to retailers).
So, if nothing else, at least Paramount seems to know that they need to announce stuff. Let's see if Universal gets the message.

Also, for neutral (?) studios...no surprises here, really:
Finally, format-agnostic Warner said that their high-def releases this year would include 'The Dark Knight,' 'Speed Racer,' 'Get Smart,' 'The Bucket List' and the current Will Smith smash 'I Am Legend.'



I would have kept the Criterion... depending on how good the DVD sets are, I buy the better looking picture, but keep the old set for the slew of extras... Hellboy being a good example.
The Dazed and Confused Criterion disc absolutely kills the HD DVD.

[Sporadic]

Warner is out of control. Over the past two days, they have sent me 10 movies from canceled orders.

I would have kept the Criterion... depending on how good the DVD sets are, I buy the better looking picture, but keep the old set for the slew of extras... Hellboy being a good example.

To be honest, I didn't really care about the extras but I still made a copy of disc 2. :-#

[rsigley]

i feel like putting in a huge warner order, canceling it same day, and seeing what happens

[Ikohn4ever]

i feel like putting in a huge warner order, canceling it same day, and seeing what happens


yea i hear ya

[rsigley]

i'd feel bad if it actually worked, so not gonna do it

just sucks, i get all the movies from all my warner orders on time or early

everyone else get their movies delayed for months then get tons of free movies

can't win :D

[LinkinPrime]

When I got my 3 HP Giftsets the receipts said that my Ocean's Giftsets were on backorder, so here's hoping I get atleast one of them shipped :D

[Sporadic]

i'd feel bad if it actually worked, so not gonna do it

just sucks, i get all the movies from all my warner orders on time or early

everyone else get their movies delayed for months then get tons of free movies

can't win :D

Well, it sucks for me because I canceled and than replaced my order. So I already have all of the movies they have sent me.

[guyver2077]

that island fever sucked balls

[LinkinPrime]

that island fever sucked balls
Wasn't that the point? :lol:

[guyver2077]

wtf! ups just delivered me troy dc, smallville season 6, and return to house on haunted hill

WTF THIS IS AN OLD ASS ORDER AND I ALREADY OWN ALL THIS..! IM PRETTY SURE I CANCELLED with wb.

it doesnt list prices but it doesnt look like i was charged. unless they snuck the charges in back then

i think someone mentioned that wb didnt charge them for something like this.. if this is the case and no one wants em on here.. they are going on amazon

[guyver2077]

Wasn't that the point? :lol:

it sucked though in the kinda boring sucky way...

ive seen this and lady scarface.. which leads to the questions... is there any real porn on hd?

[SteveMcQ]

it sucked though in the kinda boring sucky way...

ive seen this and lady scarface.. which leads to the questions... is there any real porn on hd?Pirates. Someone here linked to a sale of that movie which has both a standard and HD-DVD disc.

[guyver2077]

Pirates. Someone here linked to a sale of that movie which has both a standard and HD-DVD disc.

right.. ive seen pirates and i guess its a tad better but its really more of the same but on a boat

Its a shame that jesse jane is in these movies but i guess thats where the money is

[mykevermin]

Pirates. Someone here linked to a sale of that movie which has both a standard and HD-DVD disc.

A combo disc huh? That'll go over real well on my laptop on the plane. :lol:

[LinkinPrime]

A combo disc huh? That'll go over real well on my laptop on the plane. :lol:

No, porno's don't do combos, they include 2 discs an HD DVD and a DVD version.

[mykevermin]

No, porno's don't do combos, they include 2 discs an HD DVD and a DVD version.

Huh. That's interesting.

[CocheseUGA]

HP giftset is money...which is a catch-22, because I don't have any...:(

[SteveMcQ]

No, porno's don't do combos, they include 2 discs an HD DVD and a DVD version.Pirates is 3 discs actually. 1 HD, 1 DVD, 1 special features on DVD. I saw pictures of it somewhere....

[Sporadic]

No, porno's don't do combos, they include 2 discs an HD DVD and a DVD version.

Yup, Dreamgirlz came with two separate disc.

[guyver2077]

just finished watching eternal sunshine... what a weird movie

[thrustbucket]

just finished watching eternal sunshine... what a weird movie

Then you should watch Adaptation.

[Sporadic]

just finished watching eternal sunshine... what a weird movie

If you thought that was weird, go rent Being John Malkovich. It's from the same writer (Charlie Kaufman) and it's genius.

[rsigley]

now that warner's blu, i wonder if uni will stay or go

i hope at least in the future all new players will include HD DVD playback, would hate to have my disks be worthless and i'm not going to rebuy them

[anomynous]

Warner's Blu Ray only now:

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssConsumerGoodsAndRetailNews/idUSN0444635420080104

It was a good run for HD DVD...........

[mykevermin]

Don't sweat Universal for the time being - they're like Fox, in that they have a weird emotional attachment to their format of choice.

[rsigley]

have to wait til blu ray comes out with combo disks for uni to release any new titles on them

[thrustbucket]

Bad news for HD DVD.

But Paramount won't be changing for at least 18 months, and likely Universal won't either. So I am not sure it's safe to say HD DVD is dead.

[anomynous]

Bad news for HD DVD.

But Paramount won't be changing for at least 18 months, and likely Universal won't either. So I am not sure it's safe to say HD DVD is dead.
For me it is at least, Paramount & Universal don't have anything that's that great to me

And who knows what's going on w/ Weinstein............

[mykevermin]

i feel like putting in a huge warner order, canceling it same day, and seeing what happens

Still feel guilty about trying this? ;)

[CocheseUGA]

Aww fuck. Guess I really do have to start saving for a PS3 now.

Is the only way to get Ocean's 1+2 on HD the Trilogy? I stupidly blind-opened my Thirteen copy.

[rsigley]

Still feel guilty about trying this? ;)

ha i actually put in a pre order for 7 hd dvd's coming out soon and smallville s5, s6, and planet earth all on HD DVD last week that is still "processing"

i just called them up and canceled, so i hop they send it anyway now


yea and the only way to get oceans 11 + 12 is through the trilogy

same with spiderman which doesn't make a lot of sense since a lot of people got spiderman 3 for free

[Sporadic]

Sucks, it's a pretty big blow but not a death one.

Universal and Paramount are plenty to carry a format.

[guyver2077]

its been a fun ride but this is a lethal blow

[LinkinPrime]

I guess it still depends on wether HD DVD made any deals with other studios that they plan to announce come CES. Just because Warner didn't accept their money doesn't mean that other studios couldn't need it/use it. It is a big blow, don't get me wrong but I'm not going to say HD DVD is doomed till we see what they have to say about our beloved format this coming week in Vegas.

[dallow]

Sucks, it's a pretty big blow but not a death one.

Universal and Paramount are plenty to carry a format.Even guyver is making more sense than you now.
I'll give you time to grieve though.

[Sporadic]

its been a fun ride but this is a lethal blow

Blah, this is pretty far from a death blow and I said months ago that Warner switching to either side would be enough for a death blow.

If Universal announced they were leaving, than that would be the absolute end but right now we have Universal and Paramount and they aren't going anywhere. Don't get me wrong though, it sucks, it sucks really hard.

[guyver2077]

so that leaves us with what? universal and paramount? 2 freaking studios..

warner was the xfactor here..



o well.. theres always..

http://www.amazon.com/HD-VMD-Boundle-Box-USA/dp/B000XDZCNY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1199484494&sr=8-2

[Sporadic]

so that leaves us with what? universal and paramount? 2 freaking studios..

warner was the xfactor here..


As long as Paramount picks up the pace releasing movies, it will be enough to keep HD-DVD moving along.

Alot of big movies are coming from them this year.

[guyver2077]

i think im going to hold off on hdm purchases for the time being.. ive spent too much money on this... and now have to deal with this bs

[LinkinPrime]

One thing that really pissess me off, Dark Knight will be exclusive to Blu-Ray.

I'm optimistic like Sporadic but to Joe Schmo who's looking to buy HDM and sees all the support that Blu-Ray has vs HD DVD, is pretty much what makes Blu-Ray look like a sure thing.

[rsigley]

One thing that really pissess me off, Dark Knight will be exclusive to Blu-Ray.

I'm optimistic like Sporadic but to Joe Schmo who's looking to buy HDM and sees all the support that Blu-Ray has vs HD DVD, is pretty much what makes Blu-Ray look like a sure thing.

i think the big problem is stores are just going to pull out from HD DVD, probably before May even rolls around

the best buy b3g2 makes more sense now. i wouldn't be surprised if in the next couple of months they have more sales, but the inventory doesn't get replenished until they dump it all. other stores will probably follow. as of right now the only place to really buy HD DVD's at a reasonable prices are best buy/circuit city/frys. CostCo/Walmart/Sam's Club seem to be random in what they carry and the bookstores like Borders/BN and speciality stores like J&R are way overpriced.

then the only place to get hd dvd would be online and that would be the final "nail" or whatever you wanna call it.

[CocheseUGA]

As long as Paramount picks up the pace releasing movies, it will be enough to keep HD-DVD moving along.

Alot of big movies are coming from them this year.

Let's be realistic here. Warner was the only major player left, and now that's dried up. UP may have some nice titles, but they aren't the juggernaut that Warner is.

There's no longer a point to buying the HP or Batman movies on HD, those will probably see the price cuts first.

I have like 12-13 titles, and at least 7 are WB. I'm fairly sure those numbers hold up for other casual buyers as well.

[KaneRobot]

Nighty night.

I've been saying this for a while now, it was bound to happen. No regrets - I wouldn't have even bought an HD DVD player if I didn't get such a good price on it. It's not like my movies stop working.

I'll hold out for a dual format player, though. The less clutter, the better.

[thrustbucket]

I'll continue to only support HD DVD. I'd rather support Al Queda right now than a Sony format.

We'll see what is announced at CES Sunday.

If HD DVD truly does die, I will just wait for high bitrate direct distribution. Guess I'll start researching www.vudu.com more now.

[Sporadic]

Let's be realistic here. Warner was the only major player left, and now that's dried up. UP may have some nice titles, but they aren't the juggernaut that Warner is.

???

Paramount has alot of heavyhitters on the way. There Will Be Blood? Cloverfield? The Godfather films?

Universal still has some gas in the tank. American Gangster? The Incredible Hulk? (on a smaller level) The Hitchcock films?

Yeah, they aren't the juggernaut that Warner is but they still have a vast library and a number of blockbusters.

Enough that people will still go "oh damn it why can't I get *name of movie*"

I have like 12-13 titles, and at least 7 are WB. I'm fairly sure those numbers hold up for other casual buyers as well.

My numbers were

Warner (25)
Universal (25)
Showgate/Toshiba (6)
StudioCanal (6)
BBC Video (3)
Paramount (2)

so this hurts for me alot. But at least I feel better with my decision to import Band Of Brothers.

[getmyrunon]

I'll continue to only support HD DVD. I'd rather support Al Queda right now than a Sony format.

We'll see what is announced at CES Sunday.

If HD DVD truly does die, I will just wait for high bitrate direct distribution. Guess I'll start researching www.vudu.com more now.

I hope you're wealthy. DD is going to be more expensive than Blu-Ray by a long shot.

Kinda bummed HD-DVD is dying now because this may mean an end to the insane sales (or will it eventually spur a lowering of BR prices as they focus on competing with DVDs?)

I wonder if Paramount has some kind of escape clause in their contract...

Bring on the HD-DVD firesales! If I can get a 1080p player for around $50-100 I'll pick it up just to enjoy a few movies I've been missing out on.

[getmyrunon]

???

Paramount has alot of heavyhitters on the way. There Will Be Blood? Cloverfield? The Godfather films?

Universal still has some gas in the tank. American Gangster? The Incredible Hulk? (on a smaller level) The Hitchcock films?

I'm guessing Speed Racer/The Dark Knight will match the sales of all of those movies combined... Regardless of the movie's quality, Speed Racer looks visually amazing. Wouldn't be surprised if both of those discs were heavily featured in Best Buy store displays come Holiday 2008.

[KaneRobot]

Even more than Warner jumping, what's more notable for me personally is that New Line will almost certainly be Blu-Ray exclusive now as well, since Warner is the parent company. That's the studio I wanted the most stuff from.


I wonder if Paramount has some kind of escape clause in their contract...
I would guess so, in the case of extreme circumstances at least. I don't know if Warner bowing out 5 months from now is classified as extreme circumstances.

Bring on the HD-DVD firesales!
Yup. If I hadn't gotten decent deals on all the stuff I recently bought, I'd be pretty pissed about dropping that much cash on this format, when we're going to start seeing clearances left and right.


I'm probably going to dump my Potter discs since we'll never see the final two and I'd rather they all be uniform, but other than that I don't plan on getting rid of any discs due to this.

[CocheseUGA]

I'm guessing Speed Racer/The Dark Knight will match the sales of all of those movies combined... Regardless of the movie's quality, Speed Racer looks visually amazing. Wouldn't be surprised if both of those discs were heavily featured in Best Buy store displays come Holiday 2008.

Not to mention the last two HP + the mega giftset (that'll be what I buy) and all the Speilberg holdouts (don't think for a second this won't have some influence - same with TF2).

Pretty much anything that has sequels/continuing stories past May 2008 won't be worth buying on HD DVD.

[Sporadic]

Not to mention the last two HP + the mega giftset (that'll be what I buy) and all the Speilberg holdouts (don't think for a second this won't have some influence - same with TF2).

All the Speilberg holdouts? I thought Warner doesn't have any Speilberg movies besides Poltergeist?

[mykevermin]

I would guess so, in the case of extreme circumstances at least. I don't know if Warner bowing out 5 months from now is classified as extreme circumstances.

Universal isn't going anywhere, so that's enough, I imagine, to prevent Paramount from getting out of their contract.

[CocheseUGA]

All the Speilberg holdouts? I thought Warner doesn't have any Speilberg movies besides Poltergeist?

I'm talking about himself holding out big titles until the format is decided. The writing is on the wall. It's over.

[KaneRobot]

Ah, just for the hell of it, I'll make a prediction now that will probably come back to haunt me one way or the other:

HD DVD survives 2008 but bleeds all over the place, Uni and Paramount announce Blu-Ray support at CES next year. The end.

[KaneRobot]

Toshiba chimes in....this is pretty close to a the "Blu-Ray reaction to Paramount" redux, and nothing earth-shattering:

TOKYO, Jan. 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Toshiba is quite surprised by Warner Bros.' decision to abandon HD DVD in favor of Blu-ray, despite the fact that there are various contracts in place between our companies concerning the support of HD DVD. As central members of the DVD Forum, we have long maintained a close partnership with Warner Bros. We worked closely together to help standardize the first-generation DVD format as well as to define and shape HD DVD as its next-generation successor.

We were particularly disappointed that this decision was made in spite of the significant momentum HD DVD has gained in the US market as well as other regions in 2007. HD DVD players and PCs have outsold Blu-ray in the US market in 2007.

We will assess the potential impact of this announcement with the other HD DVD partner companies and evaluate potential next steps. We remain firm in our belief that HD DVD is the format best suited to the wants and needs of the consumer.

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/s...e,250140.shtml

[LinkinPrime]

Ah, just for the hell of it, I'll make a prediction now that will probably come back to haunt me one way or the other:

HD DVD survives 2008 but bleeds all over the place, Uni and Paramount announce Blu-Ray support at CES next year. The end.
and Sony realizes that the only reason people buy PS3's its for its Blu-Ray movies so they release a PS3 with no hard drive and sell it as a standalone player/game system for $200 ;)

[guyver2077]

i bet michael fucking bay is jumping for joy that his preferred format won is gonna woop ass this year

[KaneRobot]

It will be more amusing than anything if they really go ahead with the 360 HD DVD internal drive now...uh, yeah, thanks. You were needed last summer. Now is too little, too late.

[Nelo Ice]

damn wtf am i gonna do with my add on now
just got it with the heroes deal in october ><

[gunm]

Well, no regrets for me either as I got the HD-DVD add-on at discount a while back and I have a decent slate of movies in the collection and actually a few more in the pipe thanks to Amazon hidef discount pre-orders.

I'll prolly still get Crank import on HD-DVD too as that sounds like a good one.

I don't mind too about standardizing the format, though. I think this is a right first step for HiDef in general as competing formats wasn't going to fly in the long run.

[gunm]

and Sony realizes that the only reason people buy PS3's its for its Blu-Ray movies so they release a PS3 with no hard drive and sell it as a standalone player/game system for $200 ;)

You know, thinking about that...what incentive does Sony have now to push new, original IP games for the system? They can now shift focus of PS3 into an HD Media Center if they want and let the 3rd parties make cross-platform games forever. Could this really be bad news for PS3 gamers? Crazy thought, I know.

I mean, I think Sony is smart enough to know they still need to make good first party/unique/exclusive games to ensure the PS3s long term success, but on the other hand....

[KaneRobot]

damn wtf am i gonna do with my add on now
just got it with the heroes deal in october ><
What the hell?

...probably enjoy it? I don't know, that's what I would do. There is still stuff (including Heroes) that is HD DVD exclusive.

[Nelo Ice]

true theres still some movies but it still sucks that the format is prolly going to die

[daphatty]

You know, thinking about that...what incentive does Sony have now to push new, original IP games for the system? They can now shift focus of PS3 into an HD Media Center if they want and let the 3rd parties make cross-platform games forever. Could this really be bad news for PS3 gamers? Crazy thought, I know.

I mean, I think Sony is smart enough to know they still need to make good first party/unique/exclusive games to ensure the PS3s long term success, but on the other hand....

You forget, the PS3 is a Sony Computer Entertainment device. They have WAY too much money invested in software development to cut tail and run, especially since the PS3 is still losing them money. The only way Sony stays afloat is via its software arm.

[Bezerker]

Still, its not like all the movies out there are going to spontaniously combust.

Wasnt HD-DVD supposed to have a huge announcement for CES? I know the "Vagina Clown" has been hinting at it in the podcasts.

Maybe we'll get lucky and WHV will clearance out their HD-DVDs.

[CocheseUGA]

It's really no incentive to import now, either. Unless it's some outstanding transfer or cut.

[KaneRobot]

Wasnt HD-DVD supposed to have a huge announcement for CES? I know the "Vagina Clown" has been hinting at it in the podcasts.
Yeah, but like I said above...too little, too late I think.

Maybe we'll get lucky and WHV will clearance out their HD-DVDs.
Yeah I hope so...there are still a few Warner titles here and there I'd like to pick up.

[thrustbucket]

I hope you're wealthy. DD is going to be more expensive than Blu-Ray by a long shot.


Proof?

I actually am content, for now, in just renting HD Movies off of live marketplace. Most of the HD DVD's I have been buying anyway I will not watch more than once or possibly twice.

[thrustbucket]

Just FYI, New Line, HBO and BBC are NOT covered in the blu ray exclusivity.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/HBO/New_Line/Warner/Warner:_New_Line,_HBO_Not_Covered_By_Blu-ray_Announcement/1328

Edit: Yes, this means that as of right now, LOTR can still come to HD DVD.

[Sporadic]

Just FYI, New Line, HBO and BBC are NOT covered in the blu ray exclusivity.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/HBO/New_Line/Warner/Warner:_New_Line,_HBO_Not_Covered_By_Blu-ray_Announcement/1328

:applause: Fucking awesome.

I heart BBC/New Line.

[KaneRobot]

Good news I guess, but I'd be really surprised if New Line didn't go Blu-Ray exclusive as well...hell, they're already leaning that way with their delayed HD DVD titles.


I was just at Best Buy picking up a keyboard, and I stopped to look at the HD DVDs. Sort of a sad irony here was a couple next to me had an HD-A3 in their cart and were looking at the discs...this was the first time I had ever seen someone buying an HD player (either format) in person.

No, I didn't say anything to them about the day's events. If they're just getting started they've got a crapload of titles to pick from anyway.

[captainfrizo]

Well, this is a bummer.

However, even if this is the deathblow to HD-DVD I don't have any regrets. I'll still have an upscaling DVD player in my A3 and it's not like the collection of HD-DVD's I've amassed is all of a sudden not going to work.

[Sarang01]

If we get Disney as neutral I'd be happy.

I wonder when that ass Chris From Cali will come in and brag.

[KaneRobot]

CAGST 3000 Harry Potter OotP Community Screening

Off the popular topic a bit...for those of you who have the disc, let's set a date to try this out. I'm thinking Sunday afternoon sometime, those who want in let me know what your username is. You can sign up from the HD DVD menu, or go here:

http://hddvd.warnerbros.com/hdc/reg/login.do

And sign up. May as well do it now, who knows if Warner is going to leave this thing up once they bail out. Let me know what your username is and I will add you to my friends list. You will probably need a USB keyboard unless you want to type with the remote :lol:

If Sunday is horrible for everyone we can change it. I'll add this to the OP once we have a date.

[guyver2077]

:applause: Fucking awesome.

I heart BBC/New Line.

dont keep your hopes up...newline is very doubtful.. and keeping bbc will not really make a big splash either..

i guess its just not my demographic but i dont care for bbc movies.. (its awesome that they sold so well though on hd)

[gunm]

Just FYI, New Line, HBO and BBC are NOT covered in the blu ray exclusivity.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/HBO/New_Line/Warner/Warner:_New_Line,_HBO_Not_Covered_By_Blu-ray_Announcement/1328

Edit: Yes, this means that as of right now, LOTR can still come to HD DVD.

I would be surprised (but not necessarily unhappy) if they don't follow their parent company's lead.

[Sporadic]

dont keep your hopes up...newline is very doubtful.. and keeping bbc will not really make a big splash either..

i guess its just not my demographic but i dont care for bbc movies.. (its awesome that they sold so well though on hd)

I really enjoy BBC's content. I actually imported one of their mini-series from the UK.

New Line would be nice but if they go Blu exclusive, I wouldn't be too hurt. Most of the stuff I want from them is catalog releases anyways.

[LinkinPrime]

If we get Disney as neutral I'd be happy.

I wonder when that ass Chris From Cali will come in and brag.

That's what I'm hoping for.

[KaneRobot]

That's what I'm hoping for.
The Disney thing or the bragging? :lol:



I think the sides have been chosen at this point, there won't be any more switching (is anyone of any importance still neutral?)

[KingDox]

Well I wonder what Toshiba will do to fight back. You know they are not going to sit on their ass now that they lost Warner.

If I was Toshiba I would just inigrate the HD-dvd player in the every new xbox and not raise the price of the console. But that is never going to happen.

Anyone want to make a prediction as to what Toshiba will do to save face?

[guyver2077]

lol why does everyone keep mentioning chris from cali..

i could of sworn he bought an hd player..

honestly i dont even know what toshiba can do to counter.. i dont think its possible.. what can offset warner?

This sucks.. fucking promoting wb store all the time, always picking up hd versions because they were usually superior, and now they dip.

[Ice2Dragon]

Well I wonder what Toshiba will do to fight back. You know they are not going to sit on their ass now that they lost Warner.

If I was Toshiba I would just inigrate the HD-dvd player in the every new xbox and not raise the price of the console. But that is never going to happen.

Anyone want to make a prediction as to what Toshiba will do to save face?

Um.

Put out Team America damnit.

[KaneRobot]

Anyone want to make a prediction as to what Toshiba will do to save face?

Probably not much, which has been par the course for them throughout this battle they've been half-heartedly waging....especially because it looks like this announcement caught them with their pants down.

Really, what CAN they do at this point? Announce new players? Who cares? Announce an internal 360 drive? Like I said, too late for that. That was needed 6 months ago. Toshiba is a sitting duck right now. It's going to be up to their remaining studios to drop some major names at the show, and I wouldn't hold my breath for that, if past CES performance is any indication.



Sony fought this like their company's life depended on it, because it kind of did. It showed.

[getmyrunon]

Proof?

Logic. Digital downloads don't take up shelf space, so there's no need for providers to clearance price them. Plus B&Ms competing with each other to sell the same media products = deals for consumers. Every one of my BRs was purchased with some kind of deal / coupon. There aren't going to be the same types of opportunities when companies go digital for a long time (because the early stages will likely be monopolized by a handful of leading services).

[Sporadic]

honestly i dont even know what toshiba can do to counter.. i dont think its possible.. what can offset warner?

This sucks.. fucking promoting wb store all the time, always picking up hd versions because they were usually superior, and now they dip.

They could always get Paramount to release the list of movies they plan to release this year. Depending on what they have cooking (possible releases include Godfather, Titanic, Gladiator, Indiana Jones, Collateral etc.) that would offset the sting a little bit.

They could throw pile of cash at Weinstein and try to get them to release movies again. 1408, Grindhouse, Diary Of The Dead would be nice.

Besides that, I bet they are just trying to figure out what the hell happened so they don't look stupid at their press conference.

That said, the hundreds of dollars worth of movies Warner sent me for free was one hell of a going away present ;)

[LinkinPrime]

lol why does everyone keep mentioning chris from cali..

i could of sworn he bought an hd player..

honestly i dont even know what toshiba can do to counter.. i dont think its possible.. what can offset warner?

This sucks.. fucking promoting wb store all the time, always picking up hd versions because they were usually superior, and now they dip.

That's what boggles my mind, they were pro HDi and then they just give up? They showed favoritism towards HD DVD all they way through (V For Vendetta, Batman Begins, Matrix Trilogy, 300). The thing is, Warner knew that which ever format they chose would tip the war towards their format of choice, I just never expected they'd go with Sony after the love they showed HD DVD, thats why this feels like a betrayal more than anything.

I was feeling guilty about the 3 free Harry Potter Giftsets I got and was tempted to send them back to them, now that they got their $450 million from Sony (allegedly), I say fuck them, I'm keeping one set for me and selling the other 2.

Any takers $80 shipped?

[guyver2077]

yea i mentioned earlier that wb sent me smallville season 6, troy, and haunted hill even thought i cancelled them.. ( i would of rather received 3 potters sets.. thatss awesome)

i already put them on amazon but if someones interested in em let me know..

just popped in an old warner title with the famous " welcome to hd dvd" intro..

blah... those fuckers

[staplerwow]

That's what I'm hoping for.Except this almost zero chance of that happening. Not that Disney neutrality would do much for the cause anyway.

Warner was always THE deciding factor in the war. In fact, chances are Universal will soon jump ship rather than already Blu companies when Blu-Ray is th much superior position as of now.

[KaneRobot]

That said, the hundreds of dollars worth of movies Warner sent me for free was one hell of a going away present ;)
I'm starting to think that's why they did it...because they sent me a free Blade Runner, 2001, and Full Metal Jacket SE. I'm sorry, HD DVD community! I didn't mean to profit off Warner's retarded shipping department!

Warner was always THE deciding factor in the war.
There is no "one deciding factor." When all studios are on one side, it's over.

[guyver2077]

now that the hd ces event is cancelled...now what..

i say we have that potter screening and kiss wb goodbye...

[staplerwow]

That's what boggles my mind, they were pro HDi and then they just give up? They showed favoritism towards HD DVD all they way through (V For Vendetta, Batman Begins, Matrix Trilogy, 300). The thing is, Warner knew that which ever format they chose would tip the war towards their format of choice, I just never expected they'd go with Sony after the love they showed HD DVD, thats why this feels like a betrayal more than anything.

I was feeling guilty about the 3 free Harry Potter Giftsets I got and was tempted to send them back to them, now that they got their $450 million from Sony (allegedly), I say fuck them, I'm keeping one set for me and selling the other 2.

Any takers $80 shipped?Two points that have to be adressed, and a couple of lines left me borderline insulted.

1) It was likely that these exclusives were tests for the HD market, which probably flopped for them. Remember that even though the lead is pretty significant for Blu Ray in NA, it's a Grand Canyon stretch in other parts of the world. In Europe it's 3:1 Blu, Australia 5.6:1, and in Japan 9:1 :hot:.
2) I'm shocked that anyone think this is a betrayal, considering Warner through the Red side so many bones in the war. That's like saying you feel betrayed after a teacher failing you when they gave you tutoring every day and daily extra credit assignments.
3) And, yes, the payout rumor has been personally debunked by Warner, so please put that to rest against Blu-Ray. This was a fair and square win, unlike the massive moneyhats given to Paramount to switch.

[LinkinPrime]

Not sure if all of you saw this but...future looking bleaker:
“Based on the timing of the Warner Home Video announcement today, we have decided to postpone our CES 2008 press conference scheduled for Sunday, January 6th at 8:30 p.m. in the Wynn Hotel. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We are currently discussing the potential impact of this announcement with the other HD DVD partner companies and evaluating next steps. We believe the consumer continues to benefit from HD DVD’s commitment to quality and affordability – a bar that is critical for the mainstream success of any format.
We’ll continue to keep you updated on new developments around HD DVD.”

http://wesleytech.com/ces-hd-dvd-event-canceled-due-to-warner-announcement/483/

[staplerwow]

They could always get Paramount to release the list of movies they plan to release this year. Depending on what they have cooking (possible releases include Godfather, Titanic, Gladiator, Indiana Jones, Collateral etc.) that would offset the sting a little bit.

They could throw pile of cash at Weinstein and try to get them to release movies again. 1408, Grindhouse, Diary Of The Dead would be nice.

Besides that, I bet they are just trying to figure out what the hell happened so they don't look stupid at their press conference.

That said, the hundreds of dollars worth of movies Warner sent me for free was one hell of a going away present ;)Weinstein is probably the next one to jump ship to Blu actually, so I highly doubt that.

Actually, I doubt any of the points you made because they seemed outlandish and fanboyish. I have an HD-DVD attachment for 360, and looking at the future Red lineup, I'm just thoroughly disappointed at how thin it is.

[Sporadic]

Weinstein is probably the next one to jump ship to Blu actually, so I highly doubt that.

Actually, I doubt any of the points you made because they seemed outlandish and fanboyish. I have an HD-DVD attachment for 360, and looking at the future Red lineup, I'm just thoroughly disappointed at how thin it is.

Weinstein is currently out of the HDM arena due to poor sales. The only thing that could even make them consider coming back in is alot of cash money. If they go anywhere at all, it will be to the format who offers them the biggest check and Toshiba has more to prove right now.

My points are outlandish and fanboyish? I don't see how saying Universal and Paramount will continue to release movies is outlandish or fanboyish. Universal has stayed put in worst positions and Paramount has a contract. Paramount announced back in October that they already have 30+ titles planned for 2008. The CEO of the Norway division said they were going to release both The Godfather series and the Indiana Jones series so it's entirely in the realm of possibility.


An even better question though, talking about outlandish and fanboyish, do you read any of the posts you make?


3) And, yes, the payout rumor has been personally debunked by Warner, so please put that to rest against Blu-Ray. This was a fair and square win, unlike the massive moneyhats given to Paramount to switch.

Are you fucking kidding me? Do you honestly believe that Warner didn't take a MASSIVE payoff to go Blu? That in just the goodness of their heart they picked Blu?

[KaneRobot]

Not sure if all of you saw this but...future looking bleaker:

http://wesleytech.com/ces-hd-dvd-event-canceled-due-to-warner-announcement/483/
I don't think that's necessarily bleaker. It would be asinine to just go ahead with whatever they had planned. It only makes sense that they'd want to have a meeting to discuss what they think they should present.

[Bezerker]

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[mykevermin]

Are you fucking kidding me? Do you honestly believe that Warner didn't take a MASSIVE payoff to go Blu? That in just the goodness of their heart they picked Blu?

WB knew they were the pretty girl at the prom; they'd be stupid, frankly, to turn down any offer. There's no doubt that both groups were wooing WB with flowers and chocolates and jewelry financial incentives.

By the way, there is a format war thread for all this nonsense (I know you know Sporadic, but our overzealous BD fan might want to take his prattling there): http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160918

[staplerwow]

Weinstein is currently out of the HDM arena due to poor sales. The only thing that could even make them consider coming back in is alot of cash money. If they go anywhere at all, it will be to the format who offers them the biggest check and Toshiba has more to prove right now.

My points are outlandish and fanboyish? I don't see how saying Universal and Paramount will continue to release movies is outlandish or fanboyish. Universal has stayed put in worst positions and Paramount has a contract. Paramount announced back in October that they already have 30+ titles planned for 2008. The CEO of the Norway division said they were going to release both The Godfather series and the Indiana Jones series so it's entirely in the realm of possibility.


An even better question though, talking about outlandish and fanboyish, do you read any of the posts you make?



Are you fucking kidding me? Do you honestly believe that Warner didn't take a MASSIVE payoff to go Blu? That in just the goodness of their heart they picked Blu? Warner gets the blu's - January 4, 2008
Media Wonk attended an industry dinner in Hollywood in early December where he ran into Warner Bros. Home Entertainment Group president Kevin Tsujihara and home video president Ron Sanders. Although always nice to see Kevin and Ron, Media Wonk was somewhat taken aback by their apparent alarm at the state of the business. Now we know why.

"Not only did neither [high-def DVD] format really take off as expected in fourth quarter, but standard-def was softer than expected given the release slate," Sanders said Friday, shortly after the studio announced that it will drop is support of the HD DVD format and release its high-def titles exclusively on Blu-ray starting in June. "We’re seeing research now that shows that consumers are starting to delay purchases because of the format war, not just on high-def but standard-def purchases as well. That’s very alarming.”

As part of its ongoing tracking research, Warner has been asking consumers for months whether the format war has had any effect on the regular DVD purchase habits.

"They're waiting for something to happen," Sanders said. "They're waiting for the whole situation to become clear so they know what to buy. If you look at the historical conversion ratios of box office into DVD sales, several titles this fourth quarter underperformed where they should have been."

Whether Warner's move will clarify the situation any is an open question. Between now and the end of May, Warner will issue new releases simultaneously on standard-def and Blu-ray, followed by a release on HD DVD "after a short window."

According to Sanders, however, Warner's decision was driven by consumer behavior, more than an expectation of resolving the format war.

"It’s hard for us to speculate about impact this will have on the format war. All we can do really is make the best decision for our business and the rest of it will really take care of itself, in time," he said. "One of the things you see in the NPD data for this fourth quarter was that even with a $100 [price] premium, Blu-ray set tops outsold HD set tops in December. Even with Toshiba having the lowest-cost player in the market, software sales remained 2 to 1 in favor of Blu-ray."

The studio certainly wouldn't mind if it did help resolve the format war, however.

"Warner Bros.’ move to exclusively release in the Blu-ray disc format is a strategic decision focused on the long term and the most direct way to give consumers what they want," studio chairman/CEO Barry Meyer said in a statement. "The window of opportunity for high-definition DVD could be missed if format confusion continues to linger."

And finally, because someone is bound to ask, Sanders insisted that no financial inducements were involved in Warner's decision, despite the fairly constant buzz of rumors that Warner was being actively courted by both sides.

"There is absolutely no incentive from either side that would have changed the decision we made based on what we were seeing in the consumer data," he said. "The worldwide DVD business is about $40 billion. Any incentives we might have been offered would have paled next to the lost profits from that business if we get this one wrong.”

Not quite Sherman-esque, but he's unquestionably correct that the long-term risk is greater than the short-term gain.






Now it's all a conspiracy, Warner is lying too, right? Blu-Ray was selling better and their movies were flopping in HD-DVD. That's what fueled their decision.

[thrustbucket]

Logic. Digital downloads don't take up shelf space, so there's no need for providers to clearance price them. Plus B&Ms competing with each other to sell the same media products = deals for consumers. Every one of my BRs was purchased with some kind of deal / coupon. There aren't going to be the same types of opportunities when companies go digital for a long time (because the early stages will likely be monopolized by a handful of leading services).

Maybe. I guess we will see. Like I said, I have no intention of purchasing through DD, renting is fine with me for the most part. Besides, there is this awesome DD download service called bittorent that I think I'll be using a lot more soon...

Also, if the war really is over, say goodbye to your coupons and bogo sales.

[guyver2077]

tis a black friday indeed

[KaneRobot]

And finally, because someone is bound to ask, Sanders insisted that no financial inducements were involved in Warner's decision, despite the fairly constant buzz of rumors that Warner was being actively courted by both sides.
Like that means anything. We got the same denial from Paramount, and it's not like that denial held much water either.

[Sporadic]

"There is absolutely no incentive from either side that would have changed the decision we made based on what we were seeing in the consumer data," he said. "The worldwide DVD business is about $40 billion. Any incentives we might have been offered would have paled next to the lost profits from that business if we get this one wrong.”






Now it's all a conspiracy, Warner is lying too, right? Blu-Ray was selling better and their movies were flopping in HD-DVD. That's what fueled their decision.
[/I]

Yup, so you are basically retarded.

It has nothing to do with a conspiracy and everything to do with the fact that if Paramount/Dreamworks got $150 million, Warner could have easily have gotten someone to match or even double that. Even if they really really wanted to go Blu, they would have still made BDA give them a mountain of money for their allegiance because that's just good business.

In fact, the rumor is that Warner received $450-500 million for exclusivity.

[KaneRobot]

Guess I should finally place that order for Band of Brothers since it is becoming harder to find and won't get any easier with this latest news.