HD DVD thread - Toshiba: HD DVD DISCONTINUED, REPAIR/SUPPORT CONTINUES, NO BLU PLANS

[KaneRobot]

2/19 -

There's still more to come on this, but here's the press release:

Toshiba Announces Discontinuation of HD DVD Businesses

19 February, 2008

Company Remains Focused on Championing Consumer Access to High Definition Content

TOKYO--Toshiba Corporation today announced that it has undertaken a thorough review of its overall strategy for HD DVD and has decided it will no longer develop, manufacture and market HD DVD players and recorders. This decision has been made following recent major changes in the market. Toshiba will continue, however, to provide full product support and after-sales service for all owners of Toshiba HD DVD products.

HD DVD was developed to offer consumers access at an affordable price to high-quality, high definition content and prepare them for the digital convergence of tomorrow where the fusion of consumer electronics and IT will continue to progress.

"We carefully assessed the long-term impact of continuing the so-called 'next-generation format war' and concluded that a swift decision will best help the market develop," said Atsutoshi Nishida, President and CEO of Toshiba Corporation. "While we are disappointed for the company and more importantly, for the consumer, the real mass market opportunity for high definition content remains untapped and Toshiba is both able and determined to use our talent, technology and intellectual property to make digital convergence a reality."

Toshiba will continue to lead innovation, in a wide range of technologies that will drive mass market access to high definition content. These include high capacity NAND flash memory, small form factor hard disk drives, next generation CPUs, visual processing, and wireless and encryption technologies. The company expects to make forthcoming announcements around strategic progress in these convergence technologies.

Toshiba will begin to reduce shipments of HD DVD players and recorders to retail channels, aiming for cessation of these businesses by the end of March 2008. Toshiba also plans to end volume production of HD DVD disk drives for such applications as PCs and games in the same timeframe, yet will continue to make efforts to meet customer requirements. The company will continue to assess the position of notebook PCs with integrated HD DVD drives within the overall PC business relative to future market demand.

This decision will not impact on Toshiba's commitment to standard DVD, and the company will continue to market conventional DVD players and recorders. Toshiba intends to continue to contribute to the development of the DVD industry, as a member of the DVD Forum, an international organization with some 200 member companies, committed to the discussion and defining of optimum optical disc formats for the consumer and the related industries.

Toshiba also intends to maintain collaborative relations with the companies who joined with Toshiba in working to build up the HD DVD market, including Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures, and DreamWorks Animation and major Japanese and European content providers on the entertainment side, as well as leaders in the IT industry, including Microsoft, Intel, and HP. Toshiba will study possible collaboration with these companies for future business opportunities, utilizing the many assets generated through the development of HD DVD.

Also from the conference:
Q: Any plans to adopt Blu-ray?
A: No plans at all, not at this moment.


2/18 - MS to release Blu-Ray add-on this Spring? (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/02/18/rumor-xbox-360-blu-ray-player-could-be-out-by-may/)

No official word from Toshiba, board meeting happening soon (http://www.electronichouse.com/article/toshiba_no_decision_yet_on_fate_of_hd_dvd/)


2/14 -
Japan's NHK has followed up The Hollywood Reporter's earlier indications Toshiba was ready to dump its money-losing HD DVD business, with news that the company is prepared to cease manufacturing software and hardware, at a loss of hundreds of millions of dollars. This caps the worst week ever for red, when HD DVD was dumped by Netflix and Wal-mart, pushed to the background by Best Buy and put on -- an apparently incredibly short -- deathwatch.

Along with an English translation of the NHK's article comes additional confirmation from Reuters sources, it's a wrap. Toshiba is shutting down its DVD manufacturing facilities in Aomori Prefecture, Japan, while official word is expected "soon".
Via Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/)





Regular (but modified) OP will be back sometime this week, working on it.

[doubledown]

I usually rent, not buy since prices are high and I have other things to spend my money on currently. I may buy one more with Google Checkout soon...not sure if I want HD or BD though.

Although, this is what I own

HD-DVD:
- King Kong
- Fast and the Furious
- Batman Begins
- Clerks II (pre-order)

Blu-Ray:
- Talladegha Nights (PS3 version)

[guyver2077]

HD-DVD:
-King Kong
-Superman
-Superman 2
-Superman Returns
-Batman (pending)
-V for Vendetta (pending)



Blu-Ray:
-Saw

Edit.. Just noticed that this is a hd dvd thread so scratch br.

[cleaver]

HD-DVD
12 Monkeys
40 Year Old Virgin
300
The Ant Bully
Batman Begins
Big Lebowski
Blazing Saddles
Blood Diamond
Casino
Chronicles of Riddick
Coming to America
Constantine
The Departed
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Fearless
Half Baked
Happy Feet
The Hulk
Jarhead
King Kong
Knocked Up
The Mummy
The Mummy Returns
Nine Inch Nails: Beside You in Time
Planet Earth
Ray
The Road Warrior
A Scanner Darkly
Seabiscuit
The Searchers
Serenity
Shaun of the Dead
Sky Captain & the World of Tomorrow
Superman The Movie
Superman II Donner Cut
Superman Returns
The Ultimate Matrix Collection
Ultimate Missions Collection
Unforgiven
Untouchables
V for Vendetta

Want List
Dragonheart
Black Snake Moan

My burgeoning Blu Ray collection
28 Weeks Later
Apocalypto
Big Fish
Black Hawk Down
Cars
Casino Royale
Corpse Bride
Crank
Donnie Brasco
Dracula
Fantastic Four
Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer
Fifth Element
Finding Neverland
Ghost Rider
Goodfellas
Hellboy
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Ice Age The Meltdown
Invincible
King Arthur
Kingdom of Heaven
Kung Fu Hustle
L4yer Cake
Memento
Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
The Prestige
The Queen
Ratatouille
Reign of Fire
Reservoir Dogs
Rocky Balboa
Saw 3
Speed
Stir of Echoes
Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby
The Terminator
Terminator 2: Judgement Day
TMNT
Transporter 2
Troy Director's Cut
Ultimate Avengers 1 & 2
Underworld Evolution
The Usual Suspects
Volver
We Are Marshall
X-Men: The Last Stand

Want List
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Black Snake Moan
Crash

[gregthomas77]

HD-DVD

Serentity
MI 1
MI 2
MI 3
Happy Gilmore
King Kong
V for Vendetta
Batman Begins
Goodfellas
Bourne Identity
Pulse
The Thing

[terribledeli]

Cinderella Man
King Kong
Nacho Libre

I'm tempted to pre-order Clerks 2, but I wasn't a big fan of the film. Any early reviews on the quality of the transfer,etc?

[KaneRobot]

Cinderella Man
King Kong
Nacho Libre

I'm tempted to pre-order Clerks 2, but I wasn't a big fan of the film. Any early reviews on the quality of the transfer,etc?

Check highdefdigest (linked in the OP)....they said the transfer was decent, not great.

However, listening to the included audio commentaries on the disc, the transfer apparently looks exactly the way Kevin Smith intended, so I have to temper my disappointment by conceding to the sanctity of the filmmaker's vision.

So take that for what it's worth. Some people think high-def picture quality should be spotless/flawless no matter what, others think it provides the most room for delivering the picture exactly the way the filmmaker intended. For me it depends on the film - Casablanca and Full Metal Jacket, I don't care about PQ so much as the movie looking as intended. Something like one of the newer Star Wars films, which is a visual feast but a mess story-wise, I'd rather just have a showpiece that looks amazing. Then you get the movies that take the best elements of both (Batman Begins)...if only all movies struck that balance. That's the nice thing about the new formats though - you can get both.

I've heard it has more extras than the DVD version of Clerks II, not sure about that. The extras ARE in high-def though, which is rare.

[cleaver]

Check highdefdigest (linked in the OP)....they said the transfer was good, not great. It DOES have more extras than the DVD version though, which is rare for an HD-DVD.
Not according to hidefdigest, which gives its hidef features no stars and specifically mentions it.
http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/clerksii.html
Stay away from this shitty movie. Spend like $11-14 on something good with GCO at DVDPlanet.

[JebusMcLucifer]

I've got:

Batman Begins
Cinderella Man
The Fast and the Furious
Happy Gilmore
King Kong
Mission Impossible Collection
THe Mummy
Superman
Superman 2
Supermna Returns
Terminator 3

[terribledeli]

Thanks for the info on Clerks 2 guys.

I also forgot that I've got Discovery Atlas: China Revealed on pre-order.

[thrustbucket]

Here is a link worth bookmarking.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=705387

It is a general consensus user based list that categorizes the picture quality of rereleased movies on HD DVD to help you decide if any are worth buying again.

[lordopus99]

Owned:
King Kong
V for Vendetta
Jet Li's Fearless
Dreamgirls (Fiance)
Matrix Trilogy
Hot Fuzz
300
Transformers
Knocked Up

[LinkinPrime]

Own:

2 Fast 2 Furious
Batman Begins
Constantine
Fast & the Furious
King Kong - (Will be eBaying)
Mission Impossible
Mission Impossible II
Mission Impossible III
Sahara
V For Vendetta

[ryanbph]

own

king kong
perfect storm
world trade center
superman returns
last samuri
fear &loathing in las vegas
serenity

i would get clerks 2, but I already bought it on dvd, and isn't a must have title for me

[hxhawkeye]

I just got the HD-DVD add-on last week. I currently have King Kong (of course), V for Vendetta, Blazing Saddles, and Serenity. Clerks 2 is forthcoming.

Blazing Saddles really surprised me. It's amazing how clean they can make a 30-year-old movie if they make the effort.

[djkunai]

I own King Kong, but really want to get Hulk. If anyone is willing to part, CML.

[cleaver]

Here is a link worth bookmarking.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=705387

It is a general consensus user based list that categorizes the picture quality of rereleased movies on HD DVD to help you decide if any are worth buying again.
Damn you and your informative links! It just convinced me to buy Hulk for $11.89 at buy.com with GCO.

And why doesn't anyone like King Kong? I thought they could have done a lot worse for a throw in.

[zman73]

Have:
Cinderalla Man
King Kong
V For Vendetta
Phantom of the Opera
Hulk
Unforgiven
Goodfellas
Corpse Bride
Superman 2
Full Metal Jacket

Will get soon: Clerks 2 (held off on dvd when I found out the HD version was forthcoming

[KaneRobot]

Not according to hidefdigest, which gives its hidef features no stars and specifically mentions it.
http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/clerksii.html
Stay away from this shitty movie. Spend like $11-14 on something good with GCO at DVDPlanet.
Clerks II is a fine film, has certainly better performances than the first and is arguably better overall.

Highdefdigest gives almost every single movie out there no stars for high def extras (see for yourself), because VERY few films HAVE high def extras. And from that same review:

Smith and the View Askew crew have stacked the standard-def release with two discs of goodies, and happily all of them have made the jump to HD DVD. And as an added bonus, all of the video material is presented in full 1080p video. Sweet.

....so I'm kind of surprised that they gave it zero stars. Maybe an oversignt, or they don't include high def versions of DVD content "extras." I don't know.

I did revise my earlier post. This is the first time I've seen something not saying there were more extras on the HD-DVD (although to be fair, I've only seen 3 articles on it including this one). I suppose we'll find out in a few days.

Damn you and your informative links! It just convinced me to buy Hulk for $11.89 at buy.com with GCO.

And why doesn't anyone like King Kong? I thought they could have done a lot worse for a throw in.

That picture quality thread was linked in the OP of the add-on player thread! Hmph. I didn't even know GCO worked with dvdplanet, though. Nice.

And why doesn't anyone like King Kong? I thought they could have done a lot worse for a throw in.

I thought it was an ok pack-in, certainly equal to or better than that damn Will Ferrell movie with the PS3. Their options may have been a bit limited, as I'm sure they wanted something that a) wasn't R-rated b) was a Universal film and c) was a big budget/big hype film. Plus the picture quality came out arguably the best the format has seen to date, so it's a logical pack-in. Sure, there were other films I would have preferred, but I'm not griping about it. It's fine.

[anomynous]

LOL at people saying Clerks II is a shitty movie. Please get a sense of humor, or go live in a cave for the rest of your life.


And Cleaver, have you seen Clerks?

[cleaver]

LOL at people saying Clerks II is a shitty movie. Please get a sense of humor, or go live in a cave for the rest of your life.

And Cleaver, have you seen Clerks?
I saw Clerks and the rest of the Jersey trilogy. It's not that I didn't get the jokes in Clerks 2 I just didn't think they were funny. I'm not trying to rip on anyone, I just don't see how the jokes are able to stand on their own, or have the cleverness of, for example, Arrested Development inside jokes. It just seemed conceited to me.

[flybrione]

So Far I have:

HD-DVD
King Kong
Superman
Superman 2
Superman Returns
Miami Vice
Cinderella Man -Target Clearance $4.98
Enter the Dragon
The Thing
An American Werewolf in London
Clerks 2
The Departed
Lucky Number Selvin
NIN
Jet Li Fearless
March of the Penguins
Happy Feet
Smoking Aces
Batman Begins
Unforgiven
Scanner Darkly
Million Dollar Baby
Planet Earth: The Complete Collection
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
Constantine
Caddyshack
Bullitt
Feast
V for Vendetta
The Fountain
Road Warrior
Dog Day Afternoon
The Ultimate Matrix Collection
Dreamgirls
Big Lebowski
Harsh Times
Army of Darkness (no combo)
Blood Diamond
Darkman
300
Shooter
Disturbia
Hot Fuzz
TMNT
Host
Casablanca (B2G1)
Fast and Furious (B2G1)
Casino (B2G1)
Heroes Season 1
Knocked Up
Transformers
Shrek the Third
The Kingdom
The Mummy
Mummy Returns
Dune
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Backdraft
12 Monkeys
Face off
Oceans Trilogy
The Bourne Trilogy
Harry Potter 1-5 Case
Blade Runner
Zodiac
Slither
Pianist
Next
Payback
Pan's Labyrinth
2001 - A Space Odyssey

Blu-ray
Memento
Pirates of the Caribbean - The Curse of the Black Pearl
Pirates of the Caribbean - Dead Man's Chest
Monster House
Bridge to Terabithia
Night at the Museum
Crank
X-Men - The Last Stand
Stranger Than Fiction
Corpse Bride
Invincible
Species
Italian Job
Underworld Evolution
Fantastic Four Silver Surfer
Live Free Die Hard
Spiderman Collection
Meet the Robinsons
Ratatouille
Curse of the Golden Flower
Hellboy
Layer Cake
Donnie Brasco
Fifth Element
The Replacement Killers
Brothers Grimm
Lookout
Identity
First Blood
Paprika
Simpsons Movie
Pirates of the Caribbean - At World's End
Superbad
War
Shoot'em Up
310 to Yuma
Dracula
Underworld
Dawn of Dead
Day of Dead
King Aurthur
Kingdom of Heaven
Speed
Die Hard
Die Hard with Vengence
28 days later
28 weeks later
Wild Things
District B13
Tekkon Kinkreet
Secret Window
Incubus - Alive at Red Rocks
Con-Air

[Santurio]

Own:

King Kong
V for Vendetta
Batman Begins
Sleepy Hollow
Aeon Flux
The Last Samurai
Pitch Black
MI:III
Constantine
The Searchers
We Were Soldiers
Superman: The Movie
Superman II: The Donner Cut
Superman Returns
Miami Vice
Chronos
World Trade Center
Fearless
The Eagles:Farewell Tour


Pre-order:

Clerks II

[JDMxB]

So far...

King Kong
Batman Begins
Corpse Bride
Training Day
Friday Night Lights-------(Thanks PM from Sears ad to BB...$7.50!)
Cinderella Man -----------(Thanks Target...$4.98!)
Chronicles of Riddick
Mission Impossible III

I'm a regular poster over on AVSforums, but would like to get the CAGs opinion on a few discs...i'll bring them up as I think of em.

I'm thinking about picking up Fearless/Tokyo Drift/Casino...any opinions on the PQ of these discs?

[KaneRobot]

I'm thinking about picking up Fearless/Tokyo Drift/Casino...any opinions on the PQ of these discs?

I just picked up Fearless but haven't checked it out yet, I'm going to try to get to it by this weekend. I'll post something after.

It's a combo disc, which I have tried to avoid (this is my first one), but I liked the movie enough in theaters to pick it up on disc.

[gkrykewy]

I have:

Kong
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (old one)
Corpse Bride
Polar Express

Looking forward to the NIN concert HDDVD, Star Trek Collection, Harry Potters, and Matrixes (of the announced discs).

[guyver2077]

I thought it was an ok pack-in, certainly equal to or better than that damn Will Ferrell movie with the PS3. Their options may have been a bit limited, as I'm sure they wanted something that a) wasn't R-rated b) was a Universal film and c) was a big budget/big hype film. Plus the picture quality came out arguably the best the format has seen to date, so it's a logical pack-in. Sure, there were other films I would have preferred, but I'm not griping about it. It's fine.

I really dont want to start a whole flame war but you cannot compare the will ferrell movie to king kong..

I thought it was an excellent pack in and showed off the potential of hd dvd tremendously... It probably still is the number 1 movie on hd dvd on the pq list

[doubledown]

DVDTALK.com gave FEARLESS a Collector's Edition rating (highest possible). I'll give it a rent if Blockbuster.com gets their poop together. (The HD/BD are lacking seriously)

Also, Talledega Nights as the PS3 pack in was a 25GB disc (not the unrated one). The PQ on that was not great....I'm still looking for another disc to get. I'd rather wait until there are more deal though, as I rent more now as I don't really watch movies twice.

[grendel19]

Owned:
King Kong
Last Samurai
Batman Begins
V for Vendetta
Black Rain
The Phantom of the Opera
The Rundown
Out of Sight

Will pickup one day:
Apollo 13
Lost in Translation
The Interpreter
Syriana
The Departed

[LinkinPrime]

First Look at THD:

http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/1/1479/original.jpeg

No price MSRP given yet. But they state that it will not cost more than current titles.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Total_Hi_Def/High-Def_Disc_Packaging/Warner/CES/CES:_First_Look_at_Warner_Total_Hi_Def_Packaging,_ Plus_Lord_of_the_Rings_in_2007/431

[Transformah]

I just picked up Fearless but haven't checked it out yet, I'm going to try to get to it by this weekend. I'll post something after.

It's a combo disc, which I have tried to avoid (this is my first one), but I liked the movie enough in theaters to pick it up on disc.

I want this to be my 3rd HD disk, although these combo formats are too expensive. I may have to wait for a deal or price-drop. Even the GCO brings this disk only down to ~$24 shipped.

[KaneRobot]

LMAO at the TotalHD packaging. Why do I get the feeling that the format will confuse people even MORE? Now instead of two clearly marked formats (reddish-case vs. blueish-case), we'll have a half-red/half-blue case...probably sitting in-between them on shelves, no less.

If EVERY studio did that it would be fine, but you know Sony/Fox isn't budging anytime soon, and same goes for Universal.


General consensus is Fearless does have an excellent transfer - that dvdtalk review above says it's "reference quality" and arguably the best looking disc to date. AVS users at least partially agree - it's tier 1 (which is now the second highest since they've brought in a "tier 0" for blow-you-away picture quality discs like Hulk and King Kong. I have seen a few people saying Fearless is a bit soft, but that is likely nitpicking that always occurs whenever something is heavily praised.

[doubledown]

The Total HD is just a concept I believe. It's HORRIBLE. It might be passable since it matches Superman, but it looks way too cartoony. Plus, I don't see them using a slipcase for EVERY Total HD movie.

[ryanbph]

i would think that the total hd dvd player that plays both hd dvd and blue ray discs would sell better then dual formatted discs

what happened to the rumor that disney was going to announce hd dvd support at ces?

[KaneRobot]

i would think that the total hd dvd player that plays both hd dvd and blue ray discs would sell better then dual formatted discs

what happened to the rumor that disney was going to announce hd dvd support at ces?

Nothing yet, apparently. Same goes for Lionsgate, who was also rumored. The blow on Lionsgate is lessened for me though, since now that they're on XBLM and it's only a matter of time before a) a bigger hard drive is released and b) movies are available for purchase rather than rent.


Sony has more to lose here, and it's obvious they are laying everything they have into this to hang on to all the studios they can. Not that Toshiba et al aren't laying their ass on the line as well, but Sony has been in dire need of something like Blu-Ray to succeed and get them back moving forward.

[doubledown]

Nothing yet, apparently. Same goes for Lionsgate, who was also rumored. The blow on Lionsgate is lessened for me though, since now that they're on XBLM and it's only a matter of time before a) a bigger hard drive is released and b) movies are available for purchase rather than rent.


Sony has more to lose here, and it's obvious they are laying everything they have into this to hang on to all the studios they can. Not that Toshiba et al aren't laying their ass on the line as well, but Sony has been in dire need of something like Blu-Ray to succeed and get them back moving forward.

I still don't see how one could "purchase" a HD movie over XBLA. Basically, we have 12GB of free space. A HD movie at the least is 15GB (DL=30GB)...although, that has been increased to 17-34 now. I would much rather own the physical copy of the disc.

I'm upset Lionsgate didn't jump. I love horror movies, and they seem to have a majority of them.

[KaneRobot]

I still don't see how one could "purchase" a HD movie over XBLA. Basically, we have 12GB of free space.

I guess I didn't make it clear enough - point A and point B of what you quoted go together.

I'd also RATHER have a physical copy of the disc, but if most of the studios that aren't on HD-DVD at least go on XBLM, it won't bug me.

[Cth]

OWNED:
King Kong
Hulk
Constantine

WILL BUY:
The Thing
Clerks II

Just signed up for Blockbuster Online as well.

[Cth]

I really dont want to start a whole flame war but you cannot compare the will ferrell movie to king kong..

I thought it was an excellent pack in and showed off the potential of hd dvd tremendously... It probably still is the number 1 movie on hd dvd on the pq list

I agree, although Hulk gives it a reallllllllllly good run for it's money.

Hulk's dark scenes are the only reason it's not #1 in my mind.

Spectacular transfer.. this is the dvd that sold me on HD-DVD.

[guyver2077]

strange issue...

so i rented mami vice hd dvd...

it came damaged but i was able to watch a little of the beginning of the movie where they are on the docs and then to the club...heres where it stopped playing..

luckily its a combo disk so i just flipped it around and now im watching in sd...the strange thing is that on the dvd side.. the movie starts from the club scene..

wtf

[Santurio]

strange issue...

so i rented mami vice hd dvd...

it came damaged but i was able to watch a little of the beginning of the movie where they are on the docs and then to the club...heres where it stopped playing..

luckily its a combo disk so i just flipped it around and now im watching in sd...the strange thing is that on the dvd side.. the movie starts from the club scene..

wtf
The SD version is the Theatrical version. THe HD side is the Unrated extended cut. There are actually quite a few differences and the extended version flows a lot better.

[JDMxB]

Picked up the last copy of Fearless at DVDempire via the google 10 off 10 for a total of $24 shipped. BB want's $39.99!!!

DVDtalk recently gave it super high marks so I hope i'm not dissapointed.

[pinoy530]

HD-DVD
Cinderella Man
Batman Begins
World Trade Center
King Kong
MI3
Fearless
Superman Returns
Smallville Season 5

Blu-ray
X-men III
Talladega Nights
Tomb Raider
Enemy of the State
Terminator 2
Underworld Evolution
Kingdom of Heaven Dirctor's Cut

[KaneRobot]

Ok, watched Fearless. Excellent picture...not quite King Kong but probably the second best-looking disc I have.

I saw it in the theaters but it was good enough to buy. I'm usually kind of "eh" on martial arts-based films but I loved this movie.

[guyver2077]

Wow just saw pitch black for the first time....

great movie and looked phenomenal!


i saw fearless in the theatres.. decent but a tad boring for my tastes.. not a fan of subtitled movies

[Sarang01]

I still don't see how one could "purchase" a HD movie over XBLA. Basically, we have 12GB of free space. A HD movie at the least is 15GB (DL=30GB)...although, that has been increased to 17-34 now. I would much rather own the physical copy of the disc.

I'm upset Lionsgate didn't jump. I love horror movies, and they seem to have a majority of them.

I'm more for them because they have at leasy one series I want in HD: Weeds. I might pick up "Deadwood" but most of the new American shows I want are from Showtime, at least one being from Sony("Huff"). Past that it's older CW Drama shows which Disney owns the rights to. Oh well, at least NBC Universal did "House", now where is it?
Also just wondering two things. What old Miramax movies does the new "Weinstein Company" have the rights to, specifically of the Jersey Trilogy and "Sin City"? And will I have a choice between True HD discs and HD-DVD or will I be forced to stomach paying the Blu-Ray cost?

[edison]

Currently own-
Accepted
Friday Night Lights
MI 1,2, & 3
King Kong
Slither

Been using Netflix to rent other HD DVD titles. I really don't like having to buy dual format dvd/HD dvd titles.

[thrustbucket]

i saw fearless in the theatres.. decent but a tad boring for my tastes.. not a fan of subtitled movies

That's funny. These days I more and more seem to enjoy foreign (subtitled) movies than American movies.

And dubbing a foreign movie ruins it horribly.

[Sarang01]

That's funny. These days I more and more seem to enjoy foreign (subtitled) movies than American movies.

And dubbing a foreign movie ruins it horribly.

I couldn't agree more about dubbing. They especially do some bad Dubs on Anime.

[gunm]

Currently Own:

King Kong (pack-in)
Fearless
Fast Times At Ridgemont High

Shipping to me this week:

Scooby Doo

Will probably get in the near future:

Mission Impossible III
The Break Up
Serenity

[Sarang01]

Worth it for "Fast Times At Ridgemont High", picture et al?

[gunm]

Worth it for "Fast Times At Ridgemont High", picture et al?

Phoebe Cates topless in slow motion is worth it, HD or no HD.

Seriously, it looks good enough for me, considering the movie's age. It gets a solid recommendation from DVDtalk. Probably a tier 2 or 3 in PQ, though.

[SteveMcQ]

I'll peruse this thread tomorrow when I have the time, but if anyone could give me ideas on the best demo discs for the format, I'd greatly appreciate it. I wanna see what the best the format has to offer. King Kong looks fucking sick.

[Trakan]

I'll peruse this thread tomorrow when I have the time, but if anyone could give me ideas on the best demo discs for the format, I'd greatly appreciate it. I wanna see what the best the format has to offer. King Kong looks fucking sick.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=705387

AVS breaks them down into tiers.

[KaneRobot]

Worth it for "Fast Times At Ridgemont High", picture et al?
Topless Phoebe Cates or not, I've heard this disc is definitely not something that "shows off" HD-DVD. If you have to have it, I'd stick with the much more affordable DVD.

[Duo_Maxwell]

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=705387

AVS breaks them down into tiers.

Nice... Gotta say I'm disappointed the Fugitive is in the worst tier. That's always been a favorite and one of a select few that I might have considered rebuying on HD.

[KaneRobot]

Nice... Gotta say I'm disappointed the Fugitive is in the worst tier. That's always been a favorite and one of a select few that I might have considered rebuying on HD.

Same for me with Full Metal Jacket.

As long as HD-DVD sticks around, I'm sure we'll see some double dipping in the future, so hopefully some of these early releases will get cleaned up later on. If you were around when DVD first hit, comparing an early (97-98ish) DVD to the same movie, rereleased and cleaned up in 2006 often reveals a large difference.

[suffah]

Only the Sting interests me this week.

King Kong
Serenity
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (Damn I love this movie)
MI: 3
Batman Begins
Last Samurai

[matowest]

This may be the wrong thread, but I have a couple of HD-DVDs from my collection that I'm interested in trading (couldn't find a HD trade thread on CAG). Here's what I have to trade:

Ant Bully
Serenity


Anyone interested?

[KaneRobot]

^^^You should post what you're looking for too.


Nothing for me this week except Clerks II, which I already have ordered from Amazon. That Weinstein exclusivity is nice, for as long as it lasts anyway.

[matowest]

^^^You should post what you're looking for too.


Nothing for me this week except Clerks II, which I already have ordered from Amazon. That Weinstein exclusivity is nice, for as long as it lasts anyway.


That's probably a good idea...

Interested in:

Hulk (HD)
ATL (HD or BR)
Unforgiven (HD or BR)
Cinderella Man (HD)
Pitch Black (HD)
Swordfish (HD or BR)
Fast & Furious (HD)
Slither(HD)

Some Blu-Ray titles to trade as well if anyone's interested.

[edison]

matowest: sent you a private message

[vrs1650]

Own:
Clerks 2
Troy
Sahara
MI 1-3
Batman Begins
King Kong

[matowest]

May as well add my list of haves, too:

HD:
Batman Begins
Superman Returns
V For Vendetta
Corpse Bride
Charlie & the Chocolate Factory
Terminator 3
Constantine
Serenity
Bourne Supremacy
Fast & Furious: Tokyo Drift
King Kong
Training Day
Miami Vice
Sleepy Hollow

BR:
Ultimate Mission: Impossible Set
Silent Hill
Monster House
Black Hawk Down
Fifth Element
X-Men: Last Stand
Talladega Nights



And, once again, for TRADE if anyone's interested...

Serenity (HD-DVD -- SEALED)
Silent Hill (BR -- SEALED)
Lord of War (BR -- SEALED)


Wants:
Kingdom of Heaven DC (BR)
Memento (BR)
Stealth (BR)
Crank (BR)
Cinderella Man (HD)
ATL (BR or HD)
Hulk (HD)
Pitch Black (HD)
Unforgiven (BR or HD)
Swordfish (BR or HD)
Slither (HD)
Fast & Furious (HD)

[Sarang01]

Has anyone heard when "The Aviator" is coming out on both formats? I can just imagine how gorgeous it should look based upon seeing the source material in SD.
Mato you MIGHT wanna pick up "Black Rain" on HD-DVD too. I've read GREAT reviews about "Black Rain"'s pq.

[matowest]

Has anyone heard when "The Aviator" is coming out on both formats? I can just imagine how gorgeous it should look based upon seeing the source material in SD.
Mato you MIGHT wanna pick up "Black Rain" on HD-DVD too. I've read GREAT reviews about "Black Rain"'s pq.


Thanks for the tip. Will give "Black Rain" a spin.

Whew! This habit's getting expensive.

[Sarang01]

Dude you don't even know how bad it's going to get for me. I'm buying "Shinobi" on HD-DVD on PA for $50 as well as "Ashura no Jo-Hitomi" if the CG is good.

My list of must-buys, upcoming and here:

"12 Monkeys"
"Mallrats"
"Clerks"
"Clerks 2"
"Sin City"(BR or HD?)
"Sin City 2"
"The Aviator"
"The Matrix"
"Mission Impossible"(later when a better transfer comes along)
"Fate: Stay/Night"(HOPEFULLY on HD)
"My Sassy Girl"

Korean Dramas:
"Delightful Girl Choon Hyang"
"1% Of Anything"
"Sweet 18"

[birdfart]

Owned (hd-dvd):
12 Monkeys
Ant Bully
AoD
Blazing Saddles
Bourne Supremecy
Casino
Chronicles of Riddick
Corpse Bride
Fast/Furious
Happy Gilmore
King Kong
Land of the Dead
Last Samurai
MI 3
Mummy
Pitch Black
Rundown
Sleepy Hollow
Superman Returns
T3
Thing
Total Recall
Willy Wonka

FT:
Happy Gilmore
Superman Returns

Want:
Aeon Flux
Hulk
Fearless
Serenity
Lucky # Slevin

[grendel19]

"My Sassy Girl"

!

Has that been officially announced somewhere?

[thrustbucket]

!

Has that been officially announced somewhere?

I can't even find My Sassy Girl on DVD let alone HD DVD. Hot damn! It's one of the funniest movies I've ever seen.

[matowest]

I know you didn't put it in your trade list, but I have a sealed Serenity HD-DVD that I would trade for Pitch Black, Fast & Furious or Casino -- just a thought. PM me if you're interested.

Also, did you mean Bourne Supremacy or do I need to go to BB and grab a Bourne Identity??

Owned (hd-dvd):
12 Monkeys
Ant Bully
AoD
Blazing Saddles
Bourne Identity
Casino
Chronicles of Riddick
Corpse Bride
Fast/Furious
Happy Gilmore
King Kong
Land of the Dead
Last Samurai
MI 3
Mummy
Pitch Black
Rundown
Sleepy Hollow
Superman Returns
T3
Thing
Total Recall
Willy Wonka

FT:
Happy Gilmore
Superman Returns

Want:
Aeon Flux
Hulk
Fearless
Serenity
Lucky # Slevin

[birdfart]

Ooops. Yeah, I meant Supremecy. I'll think about your offer. Thanks

[Sarang01]

I can't even find My Sassy Girl on DVD let alone HD DVD. Hot damn! It's one of the funniest movies I've ever seen.

It's part of my list of wants, no upcoming news though. However if a region free or region 2 NON-Subtitled version was released on HD-DVD I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I've seen it enough times. Doen't make sense tp me "Oldboy" would get released but not this. I know it's done well enough in the Korean market though perhaps "Oldboy" did very well in the Japanese one.

[anomynous]

Clerks and Mallrats are coming to HD DVD?

[captmurphy]

So what is the scene right now as far as HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray? I havn't really heard anything in a while, so perhaps you guys can set me straight. I am REALLY considering picking up the 360 HD-DVD drive for $160 with the CC coupon, but I don't want it to be worthless in a year or even two. The last I heard both formats were garnering support from the various camps but HD-DVD is selling better.... thoughts? What is the relative risk of picking up an HD-DVD now before the format has been chosen?

[Sarang01]

Clerks and Mallrats are coming to HD DVD?
"Mallrats" I'm pretty sure since it's under Universal but "Clerks" I don't know since it's under Miramax and I'm not sure what movies Weinstein got after he split, if any.``

[KaneRobot]

So what is the scene right now as far as HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray? I havn't really heard anything in a while, so perhaps you guys can set me straight. I am REALLY considering picking up the 360 HD-DVD drive for $160 with the CC coupon, but I don't want it to be worthless in a year or even two. The last I heard both formats were garnering support from the various camps but HD-DVD is selling better.... thoughts? What is the relative risk of picking up an HD-DVD now before the format has been chosen?
Blu-Ray has the advantages on paper, and had a more noteable showing at CES. With the PS3, the overall Blu-Ray disc sales have started to catch up.

It's hardly "over" though. If one bad showing at a trade show was all it took to sink a format, the PS3 would have been dead before it was released. Blu-Ray has an impressive lineup for 2007 and more studio support, but HD-DVD is still doing very well (compared to Blu-Ray at least...overall high def format sales are a bit sluggish). The recent "Pornogate" thing may give HD-DVD an advantage, and keep in mind Sony's media formats have tanked more times than not in the past.

It's still too early to say. HD-DVD does have 300 titles slated to come out this year, so there's bound to be at least a couple films each month you're interested in.

For 160 bucks it's pretty impossible to go wrong, I'd definitely get it while the coupon is valid if you're thinking about it. You're getting a player, a remote, and a movie for that price. Even if Blu-Ray does "win" a year or two down the road, it's not like all of a sudden the movies you bought on HD-DVD stop working.

If you don't want it to fail "a year or even two" down the road, then you shouldn't buy either format since there is no guarantee on either side. For me, the choice was easy - risk $500 on Blu-Ray, or risk $160 on HD-DVD.

[guyver2077]

i dropped $200 on it and i think it was one of the best purchases ever...

Anyways... poseidon got a great review.. looks like a must own

[porieux]

What can I do with that remote that came with the HD player?
Think anyone would buy it? I already have the Harmony which rocks.

[thrustbucket]

What can I do with that remote that came with the HD player?
Think anyone would buy it? I already have the Harmony which rocks.

I really wish they would come out with a radio frequency remote instead of IR.

[matowest]

What can I do with that remote that came with the HD player?
Think anyone would buy it? I already have the Harmony which rocks.


I have the Harmony remote, too and I don't think it works well with the HD drive. There are issues with the in-movie menus (scene selection, etc.) on HD-DVDs that the Harmony has no button to directly correspond with.

But I have trouble with the pack-in remote ejecting the standard DVD tray and not the HD tray, as well, so who knows.

[JDMxB]

I really wish they would come out with a radio frequency remote instead of IR.

They do. It's called the Harmony 890.

I use an 880 with my HD DVD ad on with zero problems...the center button in the middle of the directional pad is my "click" for everything that needs an input in the menus...and there is a menu button on the harmony already.

[Trakan]

With the recent Google Checkout deals, I now own:

2 Fast 2 Furious
Cinderella Man
King Kong
Pitch Black
The Chronicles of Riddick
The Fast and the Furious

I got all of them besides Kong for about $12 shipped. I'm glad that it lasts until March because I'm looking forward to Babel, Children of Men, The Departed, and the NIN concert.

[KaneRobot]

Wish Google Checkout worked for me, I'd love to pick up Hulk.

Oh well.

[Trakan]

Wish Google Checkout worked for me, I'd love to pick up Hulk.

Oh well.

You try different browsers and maybe emailing them?

[dtrice]

This months EGM ranked the XBOX HD player as the worst player available. They also gave the PS3 Blue Ray as best current player. Are you guys satisfied with your HD DVD? I'm thinking of purchasing but don't want to waste 200 presidents on a cheap HD player with "Choppy Sections.":bomb:

[RedvsBlue]

This months EGM ranked the XBOX HD player as the worst player available. They also gave the PS3 Blue Ray as best current player. Are you guys satisfied with your HD DVD? I'm thinking of purchasing but don't want to waste 200 presidents on a cheap HD player with "Choppy Sections.":bomb:

What do they mean by "choppy sections" cause I've never noticed anything of the sort.

[Sarang01]

This months EGM ranked the XBOX HD player as the worst player available. They also gave the PS3 Blue Ray as best current player. Are you guys satisfied with your HD DVD? I'm thinking of purchasing but don't want to waste 200 presidents on a cheap HD player with "Choppy Sections.":bomb:

Sounds like someone's been paid by Sony.

[matowest]

This months EGM ranked the XBOX HD player as the worst player available. They also gave the PS3 Blue Ray as best current player. Are you guys satisfied with your HD DVD? I'm thinking of purchasing but don't want to waste 200 presidents on a cheap HD player with "Choppy Sections.":bomb:

Have had my HD drive since day one and absolutely love it. Own around twenty HD-DVDs and none of them are choppy.

[KaneRobot]

This months EGM ranked the XBOX HD player as the worst player available. They also gave the PS3 Blue Ray as best current player. Are you guys satisfied with your HD DVD? I'm thinking of purchasing but don't want to waste 200 presidents on a cheap HD player with "Choppy Sections.":bomb:

EGM is a publication of full of sophmoric, unfunny douchbags who will soon cease publishing their piece of shit magazine as Ziff Davis continues to be picked apart. The HD-DVD player is fantastic, and shame on them for not at least trying another player (or another disc, for that matter) if they were having those kinds of problems. I own one, I know a friend who owns one, and I've tried nearly a dozen HD-DVDs (and dozens of DVDs on it) and have never had a single problem like that. Neither has he. It's pretty obvious from the hardware thread here that the many people who bought it on this forum are happy as well.

The main gripe is no HDMI, and that is a glaring issue, but as far as technical issues, none.

At least the HD-DVD player is capable of scaling properly thanks to the 360's software updates. The PS3 Blu-Ray is the best Blu-Ray player? Wow, Blu-Ray players must suck ass. They probably think it's the best because it has HDMI 1.3 or some other farce of a reason.


You try different browsers and maybe emailing them?
Yeah. I'm guessing it's because I use the same card, that's about the only variable I haven't changed yet. I may try it with another one.

[Stryffe2004]

I shows how uninformed EGM is to say it is the owrst. There are only 2 HD-DVD players out that can do 1080p and the 360 is one of them. I have had great picture quality and no problems.

I also have a PS3 and it is good as well. Still, I don't like the fact that the remote does not have an on/off button and is not universal.

[zman73]

I shows how uninformed EGM is to say it is the owrst. There are only 2 HD-DVD players out that can do 1080p and the 360 is one of them. I have had great picture quality and no problems.

I also have a PS3 and it is good as well. Still, I don't like the fact that the remote does not have an on/off button and is not universal.

It may do 1080p, but only through VGA and into a monitor that accepts it, my 1080p JVC RPTV has the input for VGA, but will only output 480p from it, kinda sucks that I ordered the cable just for this, oh well, Ill probably just find an RGB cable for one of my old systems that accept it and plug it in that way (probably my model 2 genesis)

...and EGM's review on the player defiantely seemed biased, since all reviews Ive seen on the player have been glowing

[ryanbph]

Wow, Blu-Ray players must suck ass. They probably think it's the best because it has HDMI 1.3 or some other farce of a reason.
.

i agree with most of what you say, but egm is the only people claiming the ps3 blueray player is the best.

[guyver2077]

This months EGM ranked the XBOX HD player as the worst player available. They also gave the PS3 Blue Ray as best current player. Are you guys satisfied with your HD DVD? I'm thinking of purchasing but don't want to waste 200 presidents on a cheap HD player with "Choppy Sections.":bomb:

this is the biggest garbage i have read in a long time.... are the fucking nuts? The 360 hd drive is actually a second generation drive and is quite good...

[doubledown]

Ok, we LOVE the player....let's not dwell on EGM. I finally started Clerks II last night....funny movie, but the child interupted, so I'll finish this weekend hopefully.

[ryan838]

Have had my HD drive since day one and absolutely love it. Own around twenty HD-DVDs and none of them are choppy.

Same here. I was a little reluctant at first to buy one, but I'm glad I did.

[KaneRobot]

Ok, I got my free EGM today and had literally only about 60 seconds before I had to get back to work. I did not see the comment about "choppy" playback (it's possible I missed it, I will look again when I have more time). I did see the reviewer, who only had a small corner box, say that they noticed add-on's picture was not as "sharp" as the PS3's, which is almost as asinine as the choppy comment, but whatever.

The overall tone of the article is certainly favoring Blu-Ray as far as who will win the format war, but I can't say I blame them in that regard.

And not to get too far off track, but the magazine looks like one of those starving kids on the commercials. I've seen gossip rags that are thicker than this month's issue. Back when EGM was relevant, once they got around to the holidays they'd frequently have issues that rivaled the size of your local telephone book. Yeah, that was partially due to ads, but there was a shit-ton of content to go with it....and it wasn't stuff that insulted your intelligence and tried to put humor before info.

Doubledown - did you have the DVD version of Clerks II? Just wondering if there really are exclusive extras or whatever. I should have my copy tomorrow if not.

[zman73]

Ok, I got my free EGM today and had literally only about 60 seconds before I had to get back to work. I did not see the comment about "choppy" playback (it's possible I missed it, I will look again when I have more time). I did see the reviewer, who only had a small corner box, say that they noticed add-on's picture was not as "sharp" as the PS3's, which is almost as asinine as the choppy comment, but whatever.

The overall tone of the article is certainly favoring Blu-Ray as far as who will win the format war, but I can't say I blame them in that regard.

And not to get too far off track, but the magazine looks like one of those starving kids on the commercials. I've seen gossip rags that are thicker than this month's issue. Back when EGM was relevant, once they got around to the holidays they'd frequently have issues that rivaled the size of your local telephone book. Yeah, that was partially due to ads, but there was a shit-ton of content to go with it....and it wasn't stuff that insulted your intelligence and tried to put humor before info.

Doubledown - did you have the DVD version of Clerks II? Just wondering if there really are exclusive extras or whatever. I should have my copy tomorrow if not.

Usually the magazines (seen this with alot of them) all seem to have less content around this time of the year. EGM also favored BR in the article because they were supposed to be getting porn, which we all know is not the case anymore... kinda stupid for them to pin so much of a formats success on whether or not they get porn movies. What annoys me with EGM is the frat boy insulting tone of the magazine, such as insulting reader mail with the frequency that they do. The worst was the article on Rumble Roses (I think, it was one like that) which featured a picture of some dude in a bathroom stall looking at pics of the game and jerking hinself off, it was stupid.

I prefer Tips and tricks but dont want to pay for that or any mag

and on topic, Clerks 2 was pretty nice in the HD, you can see every little crater in these actors faces

[KaneRobot]

Amazon isn't thrilling me with their new release shipping speed...Clerks II is the second disc in a row (the first being Fearless) that was delayed a few days before shipping. Still, I guess the 10% off discount is worth the wait. If I get tired of waiting for Clerks II I'll just pick it up at Best Buy and return the Amazon copy when it arrives. They shipped the Clerks II disc yesterday, but I just checked the tracking as I was posting this and it still says "carrier notified to pick up package." Jeez, slow down guys.



Here's the full quote from the EGM article...this'll be the last I say about it, since this is more suited for the hardware thread anyway....

After an easy set-up and navigation via the familiar XBox 360 dashboard, flicks like Serenity and The Fast And The Furious: Tokyo Drift played lag-free even when in-movie special features were activated. Colors, however, were slightly muddled and fine details were a little fuzzier compared to the other HD-DVD drives.

BOTTOM LINE: Among the worst players out there, but what do you expect for $200? (Stand-alone units cost twice that.)

He also says the PS3's Blu-Ray image is sharper than the 360's HD-DVD counterpart. Considering he didn't cite any examples of movies he used in the sharpness comparison, I'm not sure what to make of that. Some movies are not meant to be "razor sharp." He does mention Silent Hill and Little Man Blu-Ray discs as having "nigh flawless color contrast."

All of this sounds like stuff easily tweakable via your TV's setup menu, so I wouldn't give much thought to what was said. Not sure if the muddled colors he cites on the 360 are prior to or after the VGA color was improved.

"Among the worst players out there" just sounds really uninformed to me, especially since most other "professional" reviewers liked it. There aren't even that many HD-DVD players available, wording it like that makes it sound like you have dozens of players to choose from.

Usually the magazines (seen this with alot of them) all seem to have less content around this time of the year.

I know, I'm just comparing it to what it was like in the early/mid 90's. Even the "lean" months like this issue would still be a respectable size. I had a subscription for several years (from issue 12 around 1990 to somewhere 1996-ish), then I got out of games for a few years, sporadically picking up an issue here and there. When I found a free subscription deal on here and started getting it regularly again, I was extremely disappointed by what a piece of crap it had turned into.

[matowest]

Have some more HD and BR titles for TRADE if anyone's interested. (Does anyone else think we need a separate HD and Blu-Ray FS/FT thread?)

Have:

Ant Bully (BR) Sealed
Lord of War (BR) Sealed
Silent Hilll (BR) Sealed
Ice Age: The Meltdown (BR)
The Omen (BR)
X-Men : Last Stand (BR)
Tomb Raider (HD)
Polar Express (HD)
Miami Vice (HD)

Want:

Kingdom of Heaven (BR)
ATL (either)
Memento (BR)
Crank (BR)
Pitch Black (HD)
Chronicles of Riddick (HD)
Unforgiven (BR)
Swordfish (BR)
Slither (HD)
Pearl Harbor (BR)
xXx (BR)
The Thing (HD)
The Mummy (HD)
The Mummy Returns (HD)
Last Samurai (either)
Casablanca (HD)
Sky Capt. & World of Tomorrow (BR)
Black Rain (BR)
Red Dragon (HD)
Resident Evil: Apocalypse (BR)
Saw 1, 2, 3 (BR)
Alien vs. Predator (BR)

[guyver2077]

man i just saw derailed on hd..... what a movie

[KaneRobot]

Updated OP with 1/23 releases. Slim pickin' this week.

[RedvsBlue]

Updated OP with 1/23 releases. Slim pickin' this week.

At least there's consistency now with new releases coming every week for the next 2 months. Unfortunately the next one I'm definetly planning on picking up will be The Departed. Those fuckers at Best Buy better have it out on the shelf on release day too...

[Trakan]

At least there's consistency now with new releases coming every week for the next 2 months. Unfortunately the next one I'm definetly planning on picking up will be The Departed. Those fuckers at Best Buy better have it out on the shelf on release day too...

Be prepared to pay a bit more for it; it's a combo disc.

[RedvsBlue]

Be prepared to pay a bit more for it; it's a combo disc.

Like Miami Vice, I just don't care, it'll be worth the money.

[Sarang01]

At least there's consistency now with new releases coming every week for the next 2 months. Unfortunately the next one I'm definetly planning on picking up will be The Departed. Those fuckers at Best Buy better have it out on the shelf on release day too...

Do you have "Infernal Affairs"?

Also just a few titles I'm going to drop here that I have my suspicions may come out or at least hope will: "An American Tail", "Jurassic Park", An American Tail: Fievel Goes West" and "The Land Before Time". I suspect "The Nutty Professor" might make a showing this year and I hope "The Hurricane" will being it's a strong Denzel pic.
Something to note, all these flicks are from Universal and therefore HD-DVD exclusive. I also wouldn't be surprised if "House MD" ends up coming out this year.

[guyver2077]

you guys are actually buying new releases b&m? wow.....

[RedvsBlue]

you guys are actually buying new releases b&m? wow.....

I do for 2 reasons. The first is that I usually want a movie right away rather than waiting for it and the second is that I want B&M stores to carry future HD-DVD releases so if they see they're selling that's more likely to happen in the future. If everyone just bought their HD-DVD titles online, B&M stores would just stop carrying them. With a new media format its crucial for stores to see a consumer interest so they realize its worth it to carry them.

[Sarang01]

Also for the other consumers shopping there to know what it is RVB since BB and others are trying to play the Blu-Ray Propogandafest or at least some are.

[doubledown]

Yeah, I still don't really buy too many new HD-DVD's (I own 4....with all coming from deals)

I did watch Clerks II (own) and enjoyed it....nice having a 2-disc set

Watched Waist Deep (rental) last night...average movie...decent picture.

[guyver2077]

yea but arent these prices ridiculous in store? how much are you guys paying for movies

im interested in poseidon since i heard it looks incredible

[doubledown]

yea but arent these prices ridiculous in store? how much are you guys paying for movies

im interested in poseidon since i heard it looks incredible

However, the movie was CRAP. I like when people buy CRAP movies because they LOOK good.

Prices STILL are too expensive though. Best Buy at least ran a Blu-Ray deal...hopefully we see more in the future.

[guyver2077]

i thought it was ok... not completely crap..

Its just sometime you need those bad ass looking movies to show off to get ppl to buy the drive...

i recently saw pitch black and riddick and thought they were amazing

[zman73]

However, the movie was CRAP. I like when people buy CRAP movies because they LOOK good.

Prices STILL are too expensive though. Best Buy at least ran a Blu-Ray deal...hopefully we see more in the future.

It is always this way when I new format launches, as people did when dvd launched, early adopters are videophiles who want the best source material in which to show off thier fancy av systems

Heck, I will probably pop in Hulk or King Kong when I have company

Also I agree about the ridiculous B&M prices, if I HAVE to guy in store Ill go to Moviestop (I know they are hard to come by) since they seen to beat BB by about 5 bucks per movie, picked up Clerks 2 there for 20 last week

[RedvsBlue]

yea but arent these prices ridiculous in store? how much are you guys paying for movies

im interested in poseidon since i heard it looks incredible

All the WB titles at Target are $20 (I get 10% off at Target with employee discount). Best Buy has most of their HD-DVD titles at $24.99. Miami Vice was $30 at Walmart (which isn't too much more than what it would cost online).

The only really good deal for buying HD-DVDs online right now is the $10 google checkout deal. Before the Google checkout deal came alone there really wasn't that much savings for buying it online definetly not enough for me to justify having to wait for it.

[RedvsBlue]

It is always this way when I new format launches, as people did when dvd launched, early adopters are videophiles who want the best source material in which to show off thier fancy av systems

Heck, I will probably pop in Hulk or King Kong when I have company

Also I agree about the ridiculous B&M prices, if I HAVE to guy in store Ill go to Moviestop (I know they are hard to come by) since they seen to beat BB by about 5 bucks per movie, picked up Clerks 2 there for 20 last week

I still have no idea why my first DVD was Lost in Space. That movie was complete crap but I'll be damned if I didn't watch it just to see how good it looked. I guess I made up for it though cause my second DVD was The Negotiator.

[guyver2077]

yea gc has spoiled me... i really dont want to pay over $20 for a movie. even $15 is pushing it..

online seems like the way to go if you can use gc.. bestprices.com and dvdplanet usually have some nice prices..

[zman73]

I still have no idea why my first DVD was Lost in Space. That movie was complete crap but I'll be damned if I didn't watch it just to see how good it looked. I guess I made up for it though cause my second DVD was The Negotiator.

Don't feel bad, I too owned Lost in Space at one time

[Santurio]

It is always this way when I new format launches, as people did when dvd launched, early adopters are videophiles who want the best source material in which to show off thier fancy av systems
I remember paying $30 for DVD's back in the day. Now that freaking hurt.......oh but it was worth it.

[Sarang01]

All the WB titles at Target are $20 (I get 10% off at Target with employee discount). Best Buy has most of their HD-DVD titles at $24.99. Miami Vice was $30 at Walmart (which isn't too much more than what it would cost online).

The only really good deal for buying HD-DVDs online right now is the $10 google checkout deal. Before the Google checkout deal came alone there really wasn't that much savings for buying it online definetly not enough for me to justify having to wait for it.

Yeah I don't think the WB prices look terrible myself. Too bad they had no really old movies like "Casablanca" available for me to bag. Btw RVB is the HD DVD stock pretty much the same at all Targets or what? I saw "Batman Begins", "Apollo 13", "The Last Samurai" and "The Bourne Supremacy" to name a few. Btw where's "The Bourne Identity"? Was it released yet because I don't think it was.
Question is the Chicago and EWF HD DVD any good?

[RedvsBlue]

Yeah I don't think the WB prices look terrible myself. Too bad they had no really old movies like "Casablanca" available for me to bag. Btw RVB is the HD DVD stock pretty much the same at all Targets or what? I saw "Batman Begins", "Apollo 13", "The Last Samurai" and "The Bourne Supremacy" to name a few. Btw where's "The Bourne Identity"? Was it released yet because I don't think it was.
Question is the Chicago and EWF HD DVD any good?

Pretty much every Target I've been to has had the exact same inventory for both HD-DVD and Blu-ray it doesn't seem to vary between stores.

[Sarang01]

Ugh it would be nice to find "Casablanca" readily available somewhere around but I have the feeling I'll have to order online. The same goes for "Clerks 2", "Half Baked" and "12 Monkeys" I'm sure and especially "Forbidden Planet".

[RedvsBlue]

Ugh it would be nice to find "Casablanca" readily available somewhere around but I have the feeling I'll have to order online. The same goes for "Clerks 2", "Half Baked" and "12 Monkeys" I'm sure and especially "Forbidden Planet".

Casablanca is one that I've definetly never seen in any store. I'm not sure why but it seems to be available online only. I ended up using the google checkout deal to get it for about $13 shipped.

[Sarang01]

Casablanca is one that I've definetly never seen in any store. I'm not sure why but it seems to be available online only. I ended up using the google checkout deal to get it for about $13 shipped.

Is it as good as the reviews seem to say picwise?

[cleaver]

Casablanca is one that I've definetly never seen in any store. I'm not sure why but it seems to be available online only. I ended up using the google checkout deal to get it for about $13 shipped.
It's barely available online; I ordered it 12/26 from DVDPlanet and it still hasn't shipped, they told me should ship 1/30

[LinkinPrime]

Finally saw last Samurai and on HD-DVD, what an awesome film!

On another note, I was really looking forward to getting "The Departed" on HD-DVD next month but then I found out its a HD-DVD/DVD combo and its going to sell for about $30. Bastards

http://www.amazon.com/Departed-Combo-Standard-DVD-HD/dp/B000M5AJQ8/sr=8-1/qid=1169495013/ref=sr_1_1/102-6925966-2688116?ie=UTF8&s=dvd

[guyver2077]

i wish they would drop the combo disks already... these discs never have any cover art and make the movies more $$$$$\


fuck combo disks

[thrustbucket]

Finally saw last Samurai and on HD-DVD, what an awesome film!

On another note, I was really looking forward to getting "The Departed" on HD-DVD next month but then I found out its a HD-DVD/DVD combo and its going to sell for about $30. Bastards

http://www.amazon.com/Departed-Combo-Standard-DVD-HD/dp/B000M5AJQ8/sr=8-1/qid=1169495013/ref=sr_1_1/102-6925966-2688116?ie=UTF8&s=dvd

You'll still be able to find a deal. Superman is a combo and walmart was selling it for $20 for a while.

[LinkinPrime]

You'll still be able to find a deal. Superman is a combo and walmart was selling it for $20 for a while.

I hope so.

[RedvsBlue]

Is it as good as the reviews seem to say picwise?

Unfortunately I haven't gotten it yet...

[getmyrunon]

HD-Porn is a coming! But do we really want it... Login required: login toasterx password toasterx

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/business/media/22porn.html?_r=1&ref=technology&oref=login

[LinkinPrime]

HD-Porn is a coming! But do we really want it... Login required: login toasterx password toasterx

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/business/media/22porn.html?_r=1&ref=technology&oref=login

Quote of the year:

“I’m having my breasts redone because of HD,”
:rofl:

[porieux]

i wish they would drop the combo disks already... these discs never have any cover art and make the movies more $$$$$\


fuck combo disks


Totally agree. I would only pay less for a stupid combo disc, not extra.

[RedvsBlue]

Is it as good as the reviews seem to say picwise?

Well I got it in the mail today and just got done watching it a little bit ago.

It looks amazing. Some of the stock war footage from the flashback scenes doesn't look very good but I'm assuming that has more to do with original source material than the transfer. In fact, its kind of interesting that there's such a discrepency between the two film stocks in the movie because it really shows you how well the digital transfer was done. There are some downright amazing 3d effects in the movie where the scene really feels like its extending out of your tv. Its not the best looking HD-DVD (can anything top King Kong really?) that I've seen but it is really damn good.

[Sarang01]

Well I got it in the mail today and just got done watching it a little bit ago.

It looks amazing. Some of the stock war footage from the flashback scenes doesn't look very good but I'm assuming that has more to do with original source material than the transfer. In fact, its kind of interesting that there's such a discrepency between the two film stocks in the movie because it really shows you how well the digital transfer was done. There are some downright amazing 3d effects in the movie where the scene really feels like its extending out of your tv. Its not the best looking HD-DVD (can anything top King Kong really?) that I've seen but it is really damn good.

Sweet. Has anything even been said for when this will hit BR? Just curious.

Btw is anyone here besides myself willing to write Universal asking them to release any of the two American Tail's or "The Land Before Time" this year? I mean I could really do seeing some good hand drawn stuff in the style of Bluth or Disney. I'd say Anime but I'm thinking of a more subdued color palette as well as gentler lines

[RedvsBlue]

Sweet. Has anything even been said for when this will hit BR? Just curious.

Btw is anyone here besides myself willing to write Universal asking them to release any of the two American Tail's or "The Land Before Time" this year? I mean I could really do seeing some good hand drawn stuff in the style of Bluth or Disney. I'd say Anime but I'm thinking of a more subdued color palette as well as gentler lines

I don't think anything at all has been announced for Casablanca on Blu ray. WB is barely keeping up as it is with moving their titles over to BR. Given the lackluster push for Casablanca (not even seeing B&M stores carrying it) I wouldn't be surprised if they just skipped it on blu ray altogether....

I can appreciate your desire for An American Tail but Universal has much more pressing matters to attend to first. Those matters would include Jurassic Park, Dawn of the Dead remake, and the Back to the Future trilogy. Once those have been handled we can worry about An American Tail. ;)

[Sarang01]

Well I mention those to fill a gap as well. I mean "King Kong" is there as the big monster movie though I wouldn't mind seeing "Jurassic Park" as well. Basically HD DVD and Blu-Ray right now are missing ANYTHING traditionally Animated right now in the US plus I would like to get any of those Bluth films in OAR. NO US DVD's have them in OAR, they're all FS. Even past these I'd take "Iron Giant" or "Batman: Mask Of the Phantasm".

[RedvsBlue]

Well I mention those to fill a gap as well. I mean "King Kong" is there as the big monster movie though I wouldn't mind seeing "Jurassic Park" as well. Basically HD DVD and Blu-Ray right now are missing ANYTHING traditionally Animated right now in the US plus I would like to get any of those Bluth films in OAR. NO US DVD's have them in OAR, they're all FS. Even past these I'd take "Iron Giant" or "Batman: Mask Of the Phantasm".

I'll see your Batman Mask of the Phantasm and raise you a Batman Beyond Return of the Joker!

I agree though, it would be interesting to see some high def animation. I thought I heard a rumor that Shrek might be making it to HD-DVD or maybe that was just fan speculation.

[Sarang01]

I'll see your Batman Mask of the Phantasm and raise you a Batman Beyond Return of the Joker!

I agree though, it would be interesting to see some high def animation. I thought I heard a rumor that Shrek might be making it to HD-DVD or maybe that was just fan speculation.

Was the "Batman Beyond" movie shot in 1080p or film though? The reason I ask is because it seemed to be direct to video to my knowledge. "ShreK" would be ok I guess but I'd prefer hand drawn. I mean Disney is releasing "Cars" anyway. I think Dreamworks would do well to release "My Sassy Girl" over here on HD DVD since they own the rights to it here.

[RedvsBlue]

Was the "Batman Beyond" movie shot in 1080p or film though? The reason I ask is because it seemed to be direct to video to my knowledge. "ShreK" would be ok I guess but I'd prefer hand drawn. I mean Disney is releasing "Cars" anyway. I think Dreamworks would do well to release "My Sassy Girl" over here on HD DVD since they own the rights to it here.

Ahh, that's an excellent point, I'm not sure if it was shot on film or not. I can guarantee you it wasn't shot in 1080p though cause its way too old for that.

Dreamworks would do well to release a lot of films. American Beauty is the first one that pops to mind.

[Sarang01]

Ahh, that's an excellent point, I'm not sure if it was shot on film or not. I can guarantee you it wasn't shot in 1080p though cause its way too old for that.

Dreamworks would do well to release a lot of films. American Beauty is the first one that pops to mind.

No doubt about Dreamworks. Almost none of their stuff has been released on either. "Eurotrip" and "Road Trip" would be great to see as well as "Anchorman: The Legend Of Ron Burgundy".
I don't understand why Universal hasn't released any of the Hitchcock films they have.

[matowest]

Still got some stuff for trade if anyone's interested. 1:1 only.

FT:
-Silent Hill (BR) SEALED
-The Omen (BR)
-X-Men: Last Stand (BR)
-Polar Express (HD)


Want:
-Kingdom of Heaven (BR)
-ATL (either)
-Memento (BR)
-Crank (BR)
-Chronicles of Riddick (HD) ((PENDING))
-Unforgiven (BR)
-Swordfish (BR)
-Slither (HD)
-Pearl Harbor (BR)
-xXx (BR)
-Pulse (HD)
-The Thing (HD)
-The Mummy (HD)
-The Mummy Returns (HD) ((PENDING))
-Last Samurai (either)
-Casablanca (HD)
-Sky Capt. & World of Tomorrow (BR)
-Black Rain (BR)
-Red Dragon (HD)
-Resident Evil: Apocalypse (BR)
-Saw ((PENDING))

[cleaver]

Universal releasing 100 or so movies in 2007
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070125/20070125006192.html?.v=1
Release schedule
http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/releasedates.html

[LinkinPrime]

Universal releasing 100 or so movies in 2007
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070125/20070125006192.html?.v=1
Release schedule
http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/releasedates.html
Some of which are:

Day-and-date (with standard-def DVD) releases: 'Children of Men,' 'The Good Shepard' and 'Smokin' Aces'

Catalog releases: 'Scarface' (1983), 'The 40 Year-Old Virgin,' 'Bruce Almighty,' 'The Bourne Identity,' 'Meet the Fockers,' 'American Pie,' 'Inside Man,' 'Pride & Prejudice' (2005), 'The Big Lebowski,' 'Liar, Liar,' 'Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels,' 'Brazil,' 'Erin Brockovich,' 'Shaun of the Dead,' 'Dawn of the Dead' (2004), 'Slap Shot' and 'Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind'


TV on HD DVD: 'Battlestar Galactica: The Complete First Season'

[KaneRobot]

From the article linked in the post above this:

Among the additional new titles to be released in 2007 are the Oscar®-nominated Children of Men, the critically acclaimed epic drama The Good Shepherd, and the high-octane Smokin' Aces. Also on deck for release this year are such highly anticipated catalog favorites as Bruce Almighty; The Bourne Identity; Meet The Fockers; American Pie; Inside Man; Pride & Prejudice; The Big Lebowski; Liar Liar; Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels; Brazil; Erin Brockovich; Shaun of the Dead; Dawn of the Dead; Slap Shot; and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

Man...not one film among those I want. Still, it's a decent variety of stuff I suppose.

Will be interesting to see if they get to their projected 300 titles (total, not just Universal). I don't see why they couldn't if they really do release 100 this year.

[doubledown]

I'm curious what Scarface in HD will look like....I know older movies are hit or miss.

Hopefully we get ALL the American Pie movies in HD ;) Naked Mile, yep that deserves it ;)

[LinkinPrime]

I'm curious what Scarface in HD will look like....I know older movies are hit or miss.

Hopefully we get ALL the American Pie movies in HD ;) Naked Mile, yep that deserves it ;)

I know what you mean about the older movies. A few days ago HBO HD had the Tim Burton version of Batman and I thought for sure it would look like crap but man I was totally impressed at the HD quality, it looked flawless. I wonder if that will make it to HD-DVD sometime this year.

[Transformah]

I watched Black Rain last night. It had a very crisp picture, but I wasn't blown away. The movie itself isn't very good either.

[Transformah]

By the way, my local Best Buy has Beerfest in stock already. However, it was priced at $36.99 even though it isn't a combo disk.

[LinkinPrime]

fuck fuck fucking fuck :wall:

However, they will continue to aggressively push HD DVD/DVD combo discs; the studio estimated as many as 90 percent of its 2007 HD DVD releases will be combos.
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Universal/Disc_Announcements/Universal_Plans_100_New_HD_DVD_Titles_in_2007,_Sti ll_Says_No_to_Blu-ray/449

[cleaver]

Children of Men, Scarface, Eternal Sunshine, Se7en, and Battlestar Galactica S1 for me, hurry up Universal I don't want to buy a PS3

[KaneRobot]

I'm curious what Scarface in HD will look like....I know older movies are hit or miss.

Hopefully we get ALL the American Pie movies in HD ;) Naked Mile, yep that deserves it ;)
It's usually going to just depend on how much effort/money they put into it. Casablanca, while not being a title I purchased, looks about as amazing as it can get. Meanwhile, Christmas Vacation (which I wouldn't buy either), from less than 20 years ago, looks like crap by comparison.

Scarface is one of their bigger-name offerings, so I'd assume they'll put a good amount of work into it.

[Transformah]

It's usually going to just depend on how much effort/money they put into it. Casablanca, while not being a title I purchased, looks about as amazing as it can get. Meanwhile, Christmas Vacation (which I wouldn't buy either), from less than 20 years ago, looks like crap by comparison.

Scarface is one of their bigger-name offerings, so I'd assume they'll put a good amount of work into it.

I've seen Scarface on HD Movies, and it looks very nice. I'd assume the HD-DVD transfer would be comparable.

[cleaver]

I'm curious what Scarface in HD will look like....I know older movies are hit or miss.
I'm sure it will be featured prominently on every episode of MTV Cribs after it comes out.

[Sarang01]

Linkin I'm just hoping the Hitchcock movies aren't that way or if they are they have good reason to do it.

[JDMxB]

Saw Fearless last night--looked nice and sharp, but most importantly it was a great movie as well!

[KaneRobot]

Updated with releases for 1/30. Nothing for me this week. Again.

[doubledown]

I watched The MAtador last night. Lots of bright colors...the movie was just decent though.

[Transformah]

I watched The MAtador last night. Lots of bright colors...the movie was just decent though.

Its a decent flick, but HD-DVD isn't necessary. I'm getting my copy of Enter the Dragon today. Anyone seen it on HD?

[flybrione]

Anyone have any problems with a disc before? Superman Returns will not play past chapter 12 it freezes constantly. I was trying to watch it yesterday.

[Ph8te]

Should have posted this here...
Ok since I havent seen this posted here before, here are some links for international lists which have some releases that are BluRay exclusives here in the US:

http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/v...php?t=29843791 (http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29843791)

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...d.php?t=249791 (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/showthread.php?t=249791)

http://hdworld.iforumer.com/viewtopi...mforum=hdworld (http://hdworld.iforumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=223&mforum=hdworld)

and besides Amazon if you want to get some of these titles XpoiltedCinema is supposedly a great place to go when some of these titles come out I will be using them as they are based in the US :)

Happy Viewing

In case you DONT want to click on some of the links some of the "major" releases are Underworld:Evolution, Saw, Saw 2, and The Prestige

[Ph8te]

Also here are the Warner releases that are announced for France....THis may give you an idea of what is coming to the US :) the release dates are "off" since it is from France we may see some or many titles sooner rather then later....

Warner has released its HD DVD and Blu-ray slate for France.

Here's the titles from that list that haven't been announced or released in North America yet.

Note that some titles are released by Warner in Europe whereas they are distributed by other studio in America (such as The Island or The Prestige).

April 25
The Island

May
Flags of Our Fathers

June
The Prestige
Natural Born Killers
Matrix (IME) (HD DVD only)

July
Mad Max 2
Matrix Reloaded (IME) (HD DVD only)

August
The Goonies
Matrix Revolutions (IME) (HD DVD only)

Letters from Iwo Jima

September
L.A. Confidential
Blade Runner
Poltergeist

300 (IME) (HD DVD only)
Blood Diamond (HD DVD only)
Zodiac

October
Dirty Harry
The Enforcer
Sudden Impact
Magnum force
The Dead Pool

Music and Lyrics
The Reaping

November
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (IME) (HD DVD only)
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire(IME) (HD DVD only)
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (IME) (HD DVD only)
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (IME) (HD DVD only)

December
2001 A Space Odyssey
A Clockwork Orange
Eyes Wide Shut
Ocean's eleven (1960)
Ocean's eleven (2001)
Ocean's twelve
The Shining
The Wizard of Oz

source for this was Warner has released its HD DVD and Blu-ray slate for France.

Here's the titles from that list that haven't been announced or released in North America yet.

Note that some titles are released by Warner in Europe whereas they are distributed by other studio in America (such as The Island or The Prestige).


Source was DVDrama (http://www.dvdrama.com/news.php?18624) and the post I foind this at was http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=796589

[guyver2077]

wow.. rambo

[SteveMcQ]

What's the "(IME)" at the end of some of the releases mean?

Oh, and hell yeah...300 is exclusive to HD-DVD? This is the movie still to be released in theaters about the Spartan warriors right?

[guyver2077]

in movie experience?

just a guess

[SteveMcQ]

in movie experience?

just a guessI'll buy that.

[Ph8te]

in movie experience?

just a guess

You are correct :)

[Ph8te]

What's the "(IME)" at the end of some of the releases mean?

Oh, and hell yeah...300 is exclusive to HD-DVD? This is the movie still to be released in theaters about the Spartan warriors right?

yes that is the one :)

[Sarang01]

YES! "My Sassy Girl" is available on HD DVD! Now I'm just wondering why Xpoilted Cinema isn't offering it and neither is Play-Asia.

[flybrione]

Anyone have any problems with a disc before? Superman Returns will not play past chapter 12 it freezes constantly. I was trying to watch it yesterday.

[DomLando]

What's the "(IME)" at the end of some of the releases mean?

Oh, and hell yeah...300 is exclusive to HD-DVD? This is the movie still to be released in theaters about the Spartan warriors right?
I don't know how legit that that list is with the exclusives. One of the Blu Ray commercials has Harry Potter in it. But anyway that's a nice list and some good movies to look forward to.

[Duo_Maxwell]

I don't know how legit that that list is with the exclusives. One of the Blu Ray commercials has Harry Potter in it. But anyway that's a nice list and some good movies to look forward to.

Yeah, keep in mind that list is upcoming releases that have awhile before they are out and it's for Europe which lends to it naturally being a different list from us as well.

My guess is some of special features (perhaps this IME) are probably HD-DVD exclusives, but not necessarily the releases themselves. I can't see why Warner Home Video would not release the absolute cash cow that is the Harry Potter on only one of two HD formats they publish for. Same goes for the Matrix films...

[doubledown]

Anyone have any problems with a disc before? Superman Returns will not play past chapter 12 it freezes constantly. I was trying to watch it yesterday.

Check DVDtalk.com

I know there have been reports of bad discs in the wild. Usually, people just replace them and they work fine.

[flybrione]

Check DVDtalk.com

I know there have been reports of bad discs in the wild. Usually, people just replace them and they work fine.

Seems like a bad disc. I found a thread on DVDtalk that is talking about the same problems I'm having. I ordered a replacement and will send back the bad disc when it arrives.

Thanks

[cleaver]

Here are some boner inspiring announcements
http://www.hddvdprg.com/eng/index.html
http://www.hddvdprg.com/eng/list/list.pdf

Added
E.T.
Jaws
Jurrassic Park
Meet The Fockers
Psycho (1960)
Scarface(1983)
Shaun Of The Dead
Slap Shot
Smokin Aces
The Big Lebowski
The Return
The Shining(1980)

no release dates

[LinkinPrime]

Anyone have any problems with a disc before? Superman Returns will not play past chapter 12 it freezes constantly. I was trying to watch it yesterday.

I had that problem with 2 Fast 2 Furious. It froze on two specific chapters every time. Exchanged it but haven't tested the new disc yet.

[RedvsBlue]

Jurassic Park?!?!? YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[cleaver]

Also, the rumor is Nutty Professor and Eternal Sunshine 4/24

[Sarang01]

Also, the rumor is Nutty Professor and Eternal Sunshine 4/24

Can't say I'm surprised since "The Nutty Professor" was a BIG cash cow for Universal when it first released.

[Sporadic]

Anybody interested in the HD-DVD version of Nine Inch Nails - Beside You In Time, Amazon has it available for preorder for only $17.45

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MM1GJA?ie=UTF8&tag=theninhotline-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B000LXH3BK

[Ph8te]

I don't know how legit that that list is with the exclusives. One of the Blu Ray commercials has Harry Potter in it. But anyway that's a nice list and some good movies to look forward to.

The reason why they are listed as HD-DVD exclusives is because this release list if from France. Its a totally different ballgame in Europe and Asia, thus HD-DVD discs that are BluRay exclusives ehre in the US. Distributions rights for movies can change from country and country and where in the US it may be a "dual" release in Europe it may be HD-DVD exclusive.

Warner has laready said that in the US that thier releases would be released on both formats. THis is for the US only though and not internationally.

[KaneRobot]

E.T., Jaws, and the Jurassic Park films need to come out this year. Those are probably the heaviest hitters Universal has to offer right now.

Anybody interested in the HD-DVD version of Nine Inch Nails - Beside You In Time, Amazon has it available for preorder for only $17.45

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MM1GJA?ie=UTF8&tag=theninhotline-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B000LXH3BK
I haven't been into NIN since I was in middle school/early high school (early/mid 90's), but something tells me this DVD will be pretty awesome. I may have to get it, especially now that I have my sound system set up.

The reason why they are listed as HD-DVD exclusives is because this release list if from France. Its a totally different ballgame in Europe and Asia, thus HD-DVD discs that are BluRay exclusives ehre in the US. Distributions rights for movies can change from country and country and where in the US it may be a "dual" release in Europe it may be HD-DVD exclusive.

Warner has laready said that in the US that thier releases would be released on both formats. THis is for the US only though and not internationally.
Just to add to that (and you are correct), one of the really annoying things going on right now with US releases is Warner holding titles back until Blu-Ray functionality catches up to HD-DVD. We see a rare exception (Batman Begins already out on HD-DVD, it'll be a while before Blu-Ray's version is out), but for the most part, they are waiting until Blu-Ray gets updated to handle the IME features of HD-DVD. This plays into their Total HD disc.

Sigh.

[SteveMcQ]

I didn't know about Warner holding stuff back. That sucks.

I'm sure this is easy to find, but I'm headed out for a bit, so I'd appreciate a response for when I get back:

Does one side have better exclusivity as far as movie rights and studios here in the US? I'm not talking objectively, but more so in the number of studios supporting one format over the other. Is there a good listing online so I can see a comparison? Thanks.

[DomLando]

I didn't know about Warner holding stuff back. That sucks.

I'm sure this is easy to find, but I'm headed out for a bit, so I'd appreciate a response for when I get back:

Does one side have better exclusivity as far as movie rights and studios here in the US? I'm not talking objectively, but more so in the number of studios supporting one format over the other. Is there a good listing online so I can see a comparison? Thanks.
Blu Ray has more studios supporting it right now. What that will mean in the end only time will tell. Check out http://www.avsforum.com/
They have tons of info on both formats.

[thrustbucket]

Blu Ray has more studios supporting it right now. What that will mean in the end only time will tell. Check out http://www.avsforum.com/
They have tons of info on both formats.

That's true but it would turn my stomach at this point to support Sony's once-again attempt at cornering an entire format. I will not support Bluray until it becomes clear that it will beat HD DVD.

For some reason I feel a vehement passionate need to support HD DVD just because Sony pisses me off.

[RedvsBlue]

The reason why they are listed as HD-DVD exclusives is because this release list if from France. Its a totally different ballgame in Europe and Asia, thus HD-DVD discs that are BluRay exclusives ehre in the US. Distributions rights for movies can change from country and country and where in the US it may be a "dual" release in Europe it may be HD-DVD exclusive.

Warner has laready said that in the US that thier releases would be released on both formats. THis is for the US only though and not internationally.

Lionsgate seems to have no problem releasing their movies in HD-DVD in other regions. Its only the US that they seem to be holding back on. I'm thinking its the same reason as fox, the preceived notion that blu-ray is harder to hack.

[Ph8te]

That's true but it would turn my stomach at this point to support Sony's once-again attempt at cornering an entire format. I will not support Bluray until it becomes clear that it will beat HD DVD.

For some reason I feel a vehement passionate need to support HD DVD just because Sony pisses me off.

I do know where you are coming from. I am going to import (if it is not possible to get the release here) as much as I can to avoid getting a BR player.......

[Sporadic]

I haven't been into NIN since I was in middle school/early high school (early/mid 90's), but something tells me this DVD will be pretty awesome. I may have to get it, especially now that I have my sound system set up.

I saw them in Pensacola a week before they filmed this and it was fantastic.

They have 3 new clips up on the teaser site. Love Is Not Enough, Closer To The Only Time and The Big Comedown

http://halo22.nin.com/trailerclips.html

[Sarang01]

Lionsgate seems to have no problem releasing their movies in HD-DVD in other regions. Its only the US that they seem to be holding back on. I'm thinking its the same reason as fox, the preceived notion that blu-ray is harder to hack.

Actually someone on another forum mentioned Sony has a lot of shares in FOX.

[DomLando]

That's true but it would turn my stomach at this point to support Sony's once-again attempt at cornering an entire format. I will not support Bluray until it becomes clear that it will beat HD DVD.

For some reason I feel a vehement passionate need to support HD DVD just because Sony pisses me off.
See I totally agreed with that a couple months ago. I ended up getting a PS3 the past week. I had the HD DVD drive but I wasn't to happy with it. It was a decent HD DVD player and great for the price but picture quality wasn't as good as some other players (which was expected). Also it hurts but a lot more movies come out on Blue Ray that I want. I like Universal and a bunch of there movies but it hurts when they are the only exclusive. I went Blu Ray for the amount of movies out and coming. I know there are a bunch of HD DVDs coming but Universal itself just isn't enough for me. Plus when you think about it $600 for a next gen game machine and a blu ray player is a good deal. I do plan on getting a HD DVD player in the near future though. It seems I might want to go format neutral on this one, even though I would hate to do that.

[Sarang01]

Dom enjoy being asked to pay through the nose for those exclusives, new and old. Some 2 year or older movies are costing $25-30 on BR when they'd cost $20 most likely or a little more on HD DVD. I'm thinking of the combos here. Even "Clerks 2" is $20. You know if that was a BR exclusive it would cost near $25.

[DomLando]

Dom enjoy being asked to pay through the nose for those exclusives, new and old. Some 2 year or older movies are costing $25-30 on BR when they'd cost $20 most likely or a little more on HD DVD. I'm thinking of the combos here. Even "Clerks 2" is $20. You know if that was a BR exclusive it would cost near $25.
I haven't payed more than $17 for a Blu Ray disc yet. I either get them online with good deals or find them used. I don't plan on rebuying movies either until they are a decent price. And I'm not trying to make this into a flame war of which one is better. I think they both have pros and cons. Like I said I will be picking up a better HD DVD player in the near future. Your comments though don't really make sense. You say some 2 year old Blu Ray movies are $25-30 and would cost a little more on HD DVD then $20. And then you said if Clerks II was on Blu Ray it would be $25. So that's really only a few dollar difference.

[Sarang01]

I haven't payed more than $17 for a Blu Ray disc yet. I either get them online with good deals or find them used. I don't plan on rebuying movies either until they are a decent price. And I'm not trying to make this into a flame war of which one is better. I think they both have pros and cons. Like I said I will be picking up a better HD DVD player in the near future. Your comments though don't really make sense. You say some 2 year old Blu Ray movies are $25-30 and would cost a little more on HD DVD then $20. And then you said if Clerks II was on Blu Ray it would be $25. So that's really only a few dollar difference.

First off "Clerks 2" is a new release, the DVD version came out in November and the HD DVD version came out in January and is now $20 as well as the DVD. I'm saying if it was on BR as an exclusive like it is for HD DVD it would be $25 at the cheapest instead.
"The Mummy" and "The Bourne Supremacy" are both $20 on Amazon and while one is more than a couple of years old and the other isn't they're both older, exclusive and fairly cheap. If these were older exclusive BR's they'd easily cost more. See where I'm coming from Dom?

[DomLando]

I do see where you are coming from but if you are talking about Amazon there are a good bunch of Blu ray movies that are at that $19.99 price point that HD DVD doesn't have. Sure some are a little more expensive right now but like I said I won't be looking to buy those until they are cheaper.

[KaneRobot]

It was a decent HD DVD player and great for the price but picture quality wasn't as good as some other players (which was expected).

That's...interesting. You'll forgive me if I'm skeptical, most users I've seen have no qualms about the picture quality. The only time I've seen griping about the 360's HD-DVD picture quality was in the questionable EGM mini-review of it.

I think a lot of the time people don't have their sets calibrated properly, that can make a noticeable difference, especially on nicer HDTVs.

Can't argue with your point about more movies you want being on Blu-Ray, though...there are certainly plenty of movies that would be Blu-Ray exclusive that I would want.

For me it's not a problem, I can still buy it on DVD and it'll look better than normal while upconverted. Having it in true HD is just the icing on the cake. That is, it's not worth another $500-$1000 (or more) to me just to be able to see the same thing in higher res.

Once we get a reasonably priced dual format player, or, if Blu-Ray wins, a reasonably priced Blu-Ray player, I'll get one.

[doubledown]

Yeah, Blu-Ray still seems to be getting releases "I" want...but I have a Ps3 so it's ok. Best Buy is once again doing the BOGO on blu-ray also.

[sonicbooom]

Bought my first HD-DVD (V For Vendetta for $12 after GCO) a few days ago. Sucks that all the movies I really want are on Blu-Ray and future releases I want are only going to be on Blu-Ray.

Edit: just bought Casino a minute ago.

[DomLando]

That's...interesting. You'll forgive me if I'm skeptical, most users I've seen have no qualms about the picture quality. The only time I've seen griping about the 360's HD-DVD picture quality was in the questionable EGM mini-review of it.

I think a lot of the time people don't have their sets calibrated properly, that can make a noticeable difference, especially on nicer HDTVs.

Can't argue with your point about more movies you want being on Blu-Ray, though...there are certainly plenty of movies that would be Blu-Ray exclusive that I would want.

For me it's not a problem, I can still buy it on DVD and it'll look better than normal while upconverted. Having it in true HD is just the icing on the cake. That is, it's not worth another $500-$1000 (or more) to me just to be able to see the same thing in higher res.

Once we get a reasonably priced dual format player, or, if Blu-Ray wins, a reasonably priced Blu-Ray player, I'll get one.
I'm not saying the picture quality is bad from HD DVD add on but it is not as good as some of the HD DVD players that are out. My TV also is professionally calibrated. But to get back to the point of the thread Universal needs to pump out some HD DVD movies. Jurassic Park is on the top of my list from what I would want from them.

[thrustbucket]

It was a decent HD DVD player and great for the price but picture quality wasn't as good as some other players (which was expected).
I am a frequent lurker on avsforum.com and I have never seen any proof of that claim. Besides the fact that the HD DVD add-on is very upgradeable (intended to be connected to live whenever on) makes it arguably the most future proof HD DVD player on the market.

I went Blu Ray for the amount of movies out and coming. I know there are a bunch of HD DVDs coming but Universal itself just isn't enough for me.

So I guess you didn't realize that boycotting studios that currently don't support HD DVD by not buying their movies on bluray actually WORKS - as far as getting them to support HD DVD if enough people do it?

I'm not trying to argue, but you obviously didn't feel any disgust for Sony like you claimed or you'd care about voting with dollars.

[DomLando]

I am a frequent lurker on avsforum.com and I have never seen any proof of that claim. Besides the fact that the HD DVD add-on is very upgradeable (intended to be connected to live whenever on) makes it arguably the most future proof HD DVD player on the market.



So I guess you didn't realize that boycotting studios that currently don't support HD DVD by not buying their movies on bluray actually WORKS - as far as getting them to support HD DVD if enough people do it?

I'm not trying to argue, but you obviously didn't feel any disgust for Sony like you claimed or you'd care about voting with dollars.
Ok well I'm not going to argue about the HD DVD drive. And I don't totally disgust Sony buy I am not happy with certain things they do. I understand what you are saying about boycotting but I'm not trying to make a difference. I just want the movies I want in HD. I never hated the Blu Ray tech and I don't HATE Sony. If they do win the war oh well. They are not my first choice as a gamer but I can deal with them. I would prefer HD DVD to win but it's hard to support them right now with the lack of movies. Like I stated before I still will be purchasing a stand alone HD DVD unit in the near future and if a movie comes out on both most likely I will be picking it up on HD DVD. And I hope Universal picks up and starts releasing some of there big guns.

[JDMxB]

Funny you should say you were not happy with the PQ on the ad on--because as a long time poster on AVSforum as well as an owner of both a Tosh A2 + HD DVD ad on for the 360 I can tell you that there is no discernable difference in PQ between the two players whatsoever.

It's fine that you went BR and sold your HD DVD player, but it would probably be best to just keep the fanboyism inside and be happy with the switch. I don't really understand the need to bash the player when you are unhappy with the movies that are out for it.

[RedvsBlue]

You know most of the other HD media threads before this one were joint for HD-DVD and Blu-ray but this one is NOT only on the 360 board but it also specifically states that its from HD-DVD. Is is really necessary for blu-ray supporters to come in here and start raggin' on HD-DVD? You guys have a PS3 board, go make a blu-ray thread in there for christ's sake.

[DomLando]

Funny you should say you were not happy with the PQ on the ad on--because as a long time poster on AVSforum as well as an owner of both a Tosh A2 + HD DVD ad on for the 360 I can tell you that there is no discernable difference in PQ between the two players whatsoever.

It's fine that you went BR and sold your HD DVD player, but it would probably be best to just keep the fanboyism inside and be happy with the switch. I don't really understand the need to bash the player when you are unhappy with the movies that are out for it.
Ok well I don't want to start a flame war and in no way was a trying to bash anything. Anyway with that release list that was shown is there any idea when those movies might show up in the US? I would be very interested in Jurassic Park?

[RedvsBlue]

Ok well I don't want to start a flame war and in no way was a trying to bash anything. Anyway with that release list that was shown is there any idea when those movies might show up in the US? I would be very interested in Jurassic Park?

You keep saying you don't want to start a flame war but that doesn't mean you aren't doing it. Things were fine in this thread until you started stirring shit up. The topic is HD-DVD, not blu-ray. Like I said, if you want to start a blu-ray topic in the PS3 forum go for it.

Universal has a bunch of movies listed as coming this year including Jurassic Park, Dawn of the Dead, American Pie, and the 40 Year Old Virgin. None of them have firm release dates yet though.

[zman73]

That's...interesting. You'll forgive me if I'm skeptical, most users I've seen have no qualms about the picture quality. The only time I've seen griping about the 360's HD-DVD picture quality was in the questionable EGM mini-review of it.

I think a lot of the time people don't have their sets calibrated properly, that can make a noticeable difference, especially on nicer HDTVs.

Can't argue with your point about more movies you want being on Blu-Ray, though...there are certainly plenty of movies that would be Blu-Ray exclusive that I would want.

For me it's not a problem, I can still buy it on DVD and it'll look better than normal while upconverted. Having it in true HD is just the icing on the cake. That is, it's not worth another $500-$1000 (or more) to me just to be able to see the same thing in higher res.

Once we get a reasonably priced dual format player, or, if Blu-Ray wins, a reasonably priced Blu-Ray player, I'll get one.

Its almost as after reading EGM's trashing (fuck EGM) of this he decided that his HDDVD player was crap and decided to switch... oh well... the lack in title coming out plus the 2 new HD-DVR's Im getting saturday means I wont be buyng much of anything for a while as these players hold up to 50 hours of HD apiece... already started scouting the upcoming movie choices as to what to record including the premiere of the Back to the Furture Trilogy Saturday night on HDNet)

[DomLando]

You keep saying you don't want to start a flame war but that doesn't mean you aren't doing it. Things were fine in this thread until you started stirring shit up. The topic is HD-DVD, not blu-ray. Like I said, if you want to start a blu-ray topic in the PS3 forum go for it.

Universal has a bunch of movies listed as coming this year including Jurassic Park, Dawn of the Dead, American Pie, and the 40 Year Old Virgin. None of them have firm release dates yet though.
I did not even know EGM trashed the drive. But I don't want this to go on and I'm sorry for saying anythign about blu ray in this thread. I did not mean to start any kind of flame war and if I did it was unintentional. Sorry. I am excited about Jurassic Park hopefully Gladiator will be announced soon also.

[zman73]

I hope Gladiator is announced soon too, since I sold off my copy thinking target REALLY would have the Extended Edition for 9.99

[KaneRobot]

Before it gets out of hand, I'll repeat what may have been lost in the shuffle - E.T., Jurassic Park, and Jaws haven't even been confirmed for release yet. Now, I doubt they'd make a blunder as bad as putting them on that sheet without knowing that it was going to happen at some point, but still...take it for what it's worth.

[RedvsBlue]

Funny you should say you were not happy with the PQ on the ad on--because as a long time poster on AVSforum as well as an owner of both a Tosh A2 + HD DVD ad on for the 360 I can tell you that there is no discernable difference in PQ between the two players whatsoever.

It's fine that you went BR and sold your HD DVD player, but it would probably be best to just keep the fanboyism inside and be happy with the switch. I don't really understand the need to bash the player when you are unhappy with the movies that are out for it.

You know, it is funny that he complains about the picture quality actually. Let's look at what he had to say in this thread...

See I totally agreed with that a couple months ago. I ended up getting a PS3 the past week. I had the HD DVD drive but I wasn't to happy with it. It was a decent HD DVD player and great for the price but picture quality wasn't as good as some other players (which was expected). Also it hurts but a lot more movies come out on Blue Ray that I want. I like Universal and a bunch of there movies but it hurts when they are the only exclusive. I went Blu Ray for the amount of movies out and coming. I know there are a bunch of HD DVDs coming but Universal itself just isn't enough for me. Plus when you think about it $600 for a next gen game machine and a blu ray player is a good deal. I do plan on getting a HD DVD player in the near future though. It seems I might want to go format neutral on this one, even though I would hate to do that.

Interesting stuff huh? What makes it even more interesting is what he posted in the thread he posted about his ebay auction trying to unload his HD-DVD drive addon...

All of the HD DVDs have never been used either. They are all not sealed though. I opened them up and they were on my shelf. I haven't had time to watch them and when I got my PS3 I decided to go Blu Ray and sell the HD DVD stuff.

So I wonder how he knew what the picture quality of the HD-DVD drive was if he never watched any HD-DVDs on it and left it new and sealed?

[Sarang01]

He's full of shit that's how he knows RVB. Chuckle. If Dom owned a 360 before a PS3 remind me how $200 for the add-on alone Is a bad deal. You can argue the price of the 360 but I think if you've bought it and had it for a while that argument is moot. Funny thing is if Sony is phasing out the 20 GB. model like I've Heard and MS drops the price of the add-on to $100 this Christmas WHO has the cheaper system with high def movies and games? Also I doubt Sony will be able to match MS's sheer number of games for the 360 by Christmas.

[Ph8te]

I guess Ill try to move this back "on topic" ;)
here are the HD-DVDs I have\have ordered\will order

Total HD-DVD's Owned: 23
Total on Preorder: 10
In Transit : 1

The List
Owned:
King Kong
The Last Samurai
Luck Number Slevin
Clerks 2
Casino
Superman Returns
Chronicles of Riddick
Batman Begins
Constantine
Corpse Bride
Half Baked
Backdraft
Traffic
V for Vendetta
Dune
Black Rain
The Mummy Returns
Beerfest
Goodfellas
Training Day
Troy
Red Dragon
The Mummy

Pre Order:
Babel
The Departed
The Jerk
The Game
School of Scoundrels
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Nutty Professeur (1996)
Payback
Planet Earth

On the way to me:
Hollywoodland



Hopefully coming Soon and in the Future: The Good Shepard, Syriana, Fast and the Furious, Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift, 2 Fast 2 Furious, MI Collection, Derailed, Children of Men, Brotherhood of the Wolf, The Prestige, Serpico, Ran, T2, T3, Point Break, Saw, Saw 2, Underworld Evolution, Total Recall. Some of these are dependent on the availability of English subs or track as they are going to be imports. Going to be an expensive year for me and this still doesn't include any of the "current" New Day and date releases for later this year......

[Ph8te]

here are some pre orders for those of you that want to order them..

Nutty Professor 1996:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000N3SSBC/panandscathed-20

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000N3SSBM/panandscathed-20

Nine Inch Nails: Live: Beside You in Time http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000MM1GJA/panandscathed-20Payback
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000MTFFUY/panandscathed-20The Game

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000MTFDCO/panandscathed-20

The Jerk

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000MTFDCY/panandscathed-20

Planet Earth

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000MRAAJW/panandscathed-20

The Departed

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000M5AJQ8/panandscathed-20

Babel:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000MCH5TU/panandscathed-20

Hollywoodland

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000KWZ7JW/panandscathed-20

Sorry if some of these posted before thought though that we should also put in this thread when HD-DVDs are availabel for pre order. If you want I do know of antoerh site that has more pre orders available that are not listed on Amazon (that list before official release information) that is legit....let me know if you like this or you wnat to do something different in this thread.

[Sarang01]

I guess Ill try to move this back "on topic" ;)
here are the HD-DVDs I have\have ordered\will order

Total HD-DVD's Owned: 10
Total on Preorder: 10
In Transit : 13

The List
Owned:
King Kong
The Last Samurai
Luck Number Slevin
Clerks 2
Casino
Superman Returns
Chronicles of Riddick
Batman Begins
Constantine
Corpse Bride

Pre Order:
Babel
Hollywoodland
The Departed
The Jerk
The Game
School of Scoundrels
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Nutty Professeur (1996)
Payback
Planet Earth

On the way to me:
Half Baked
Backdraft
Traffic
V for Vendetta
Dune
Black Rain
The Mummy Returns
Beerfest
Goodfellas
Training Day
Troy
Red Dragon
The Mummy



Hopefully coming Soon and in the Future: The Good Shepard, Syriana, Fast and the Furious, Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift, 2 Fast 2 Furious, MI Collection, Derailed, Children of Men, Brotherhood of the Wolf, The Prestige, Serpico, Ran, T2, T3, Point Break, Saw, Saw 2, Underworld Evolution, Total Recall. Some of these are dependent on the availability of English subs or track as they are going to be imports. Going to be an expensive year for me and this still doesn't include any of the "current" New Day and date releases for later this year......

Where's "My Sassy Girl" on your import list?!

[Ph8te]

LOL "My Sassy Girl" never heard of this one until you mentioned it, but looking from the reviews it would be a tough sell to get the "Managers" approval on that import ;) at about 35-40+ (depending on where they come from) I ahve to be selective on my imports....

If you are looking for news on it I ahvent seen any as of yet it is not one of the "popular" movies so it will be a tough find.....The distributor is PMP Entertainment and I am not sure who they are affiliated with and if this is a "less" popular catalouge release it may be some time if ever that it gets released......

[Sarang01]

"Popular"my ass. It was a hit in South Korea and judging by the fact it's being released in Japan already I'd say it's a hit there as well.
I MEANT buying it for yourself. It's a cute, eccentric Romantic comedy.

[Ph8te]

"Popular"my ass. It was a hit in South Korea and judging by the fact it's being released in Japan already I'd say it's a hit there as well.
I MEANT buying it for yourself. It's a cute, eccentric Romantic comedy.

LOL!!!!!! ok ok geeezzzz, ;) I may have to check it out but for now it will be on the list as a "maybe" I am concentrating on getting the movies that I know I wont mind spending the import premium, I may ahve to pick up the DVD of "MSG" as it is less then 6$ on Amazon

[Sarang01]

Dude I'm saying this owning the 2 DVD Director's Cut though I wanted the LE which I can't find anywhere. If I get this HD DVD release autographed by Jun Ji-Hyun I won't mind.

[Ph8te]

Dude I'm saying this owning the 2 DVD Director's Cut though I wanted the LE which I can't find anywhere. If I get this HD DVD release autographed by Jun Ji-Hyun I won't mind.

hella expensive but :
http://cgi.ebay.com/My-Sassy-Girl-Limited-Edition-TIN-CASE-RARE-DVD-NEW_W0QQitemZ190056128202QQcmdZViewItem

[Ph8te]

Dude I'm saying this owning the 2 DVD Director's Cut though I wanted the LE which I can't find anywhere. If I get this HD DVD release autographed by Jun Ji-Hyun I won't mind.

I understand that....I was trying to say that I havent seen the HD-DVD available anywhere (you said you have the dvd then say you want the HD-DVD autographed) I tried to imply that I would ahve to think about it (purchase of the DVD as DVDs (SDDVD) are a low priority for my at this time.....I thought my previous post was clar that I knew you ahd the DVD and that you were asking me why wasnt it on MY (want to import) list, I tired to explain that I have never heard of it until you mentioned it and now I will put it down, BUT it would be low on my list.....I guess there was some misscommunication there :)

[Sarang01]

hella expensive but :
http://cgi.ebay.com/My-Sassy-Girl-Limited-Edition-TIN-CASE-RARE-DVD-NEW_W0QQitemZ190056128202QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190052358907&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RUPX_RUPX_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=190056128202&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=UpSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget

THIS is the one I meant since I have the feeling the third disc is the soundtrack which isn't exactly easy to find. However back in the day it wasn't that expensive. I WILL say as soon as a next gen. LE of this comes out on either format that ends up winning I'll buy.
I didn't know the 2 disc LE had a tin version though.

[Ph8te]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190052358907&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RUPX_RUPX_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=190056128202&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=UpSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget

THIS is the one I meant since I have the feeling the third disc is the soundtrack which isn't exactly easy to find. However back in the day it wasn't that expensive. I WILL say as soon as a next gen. LE of this comes out on either format that ends up winning I'll buy.
I didn't know the 2 disc LE had a tin version though.

Ahh ok its and SD DVD (I thought you had the HD-DVD since thats what my imports consist of now ;) ) I will keep an eye out though and will post here if I do se anything on it for HD-DVD

[KaneRobot]

Interesting interview with popular porn studio founder at IGN regarding Blu-Ray's "porn ban" and what format he prefers working with:

http://gear.ign.com/articles/759/759068p1.html

[LinkinPrime]

Ahh ok its and SD DVD (I thought you had the HD-DVD since thats what my imports consist of now ;) ) I will keep an eye out though and will post here if I do se anything on it for HD-DVD

Does the 360 HD-DVD drive play imports?

[Duo_Maxwell]

Interesting interview with popular porn studio founder at IGN regarding Blu-Ray's "porn ban" and what format she prefers working with:

http://gear.ign.com/articles/759/759068p1.html

Don't read IGN DVD/Filmforce interviews, they are some of the worst interviewers around. They ask absolutely zero hard questions or even any real follow-up questions. They just agree with everything the interviewee says as they go along. It's equal to saying Larry King is hard-hitting news. Also, re-read the interview, the founder's not a she...

[GizmoGC]

Does the 360 HD-DVD drive play imports?

HD-DVDs do not have region codings as of yet. If you are meaning DVDs...yes, still region coded.

[KaneRobot]

Don't read IGN DVD/Filmforce interviews, they are some of the worst interviewers around. They ask absolutely zero hard questions or even any real follow-up questions. They just agree with everything the interviewee says as they go along. It's equal to saying Larry King is hard-hitting news.
Who cares? That's almost every media outlet.

Thanks for commenting on an interview you claim you didn't even read, though.

[Duo_Maxwell]

Who cares? That's almost every media outlet.

Thanks for commenting on an interview you claim you didn't even read, though.

At least some outlets comment on what was said with something meanignful if they don't ask questions. And I read the headline, that's all I needed to see. It's not the first time this story was reported and Joone was quoted by somebody by it, this has been reported since all the followup to CES so I didn't need to read the interview to know it was a guy. Besdies just relax, I was simply expressing my opinion on how poorly they conduct interviews. Maybe to you it was out of line or something, but it's not something you should take personally.

[KaneRobot]

Yes it reads more like an "article" than an interview, since half of the follow-ups are the equivalent of "yes" or "really?" That doesn't mean it's not worth a read; the interesting parts are the answers, not the questions...just like almost every other interview done in the history of life.

[LinkinPrime]

HD-DVDs do not have region codings as of yet. If you are meaning DVDs...yes, still region coded.

:shock: I didnt know that. Whats a decent place to get imports?

[pinoy530]

:shock: I didnt know that. Whats a decent place to get imports?

xploitedcinema.com is a mentioned alot at avsforum. There are alot more us blu-ray exclusive movies coming out on import HD-DVD soon like Underworld Evolution in April too. Of course since they are imports they are more expensive, but I guess if you're only buying a few imports its still cheaper than buying a blu-ray player.

[thrustbucket]

:shock: I didnt know that. Whats a decent place to get imports?

http://xploitedcinema.com seems to be the most popular.

On the downside though, importing isn't cheap. I'd love to import equilibrium but it's $50. http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/equilibrium-japanese-release-p-10771.html

[Bezerker]

Just got my hd-dvd player today from EB ($120 used ^_^). Didnt come with King Kong unfortunately, so i bought Corpse Bride to hold me off til i get some of the $9.50 hd-dvds from Buy.com. Picture quality is really great. Even my normal dvds @ 480p seem to look better than dvds on my 1080i upconverting player.

I guess its just my frugality. But damn BR & HD-DVD discs are expensive in stores. Thank god for Google Checkout ^_^. Just ordered V for Vendetta, Goodfellas & Fast Times @ Ridgemont High. I'd order more but im out of credit cards to make accounts with. Gonna invest in some of those virtual ones they sell at CVS.

Arg, Xploited Cinema has Running Scared. Unfortunately its $32. I sure hope it gets released over here sometime soon.

[Ph8te]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190052358907&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RUPX_RUPX_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=190056128202&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=UpSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget

THIS is the one I meant since I have the feeling the third disc is the soundtrack which isn't exactly easy to find. However back in the day it wasn't that expensive. I WILL say as soon as a next gen. LE of this comes out on either format that ends up winning I'll buy.
I didn't know the 2 disc LE had a tin version though.

Cant tell which version this is sorry, but it is HD-DVD :)

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20061117/tent.htm

[Ph8te]

http://xploitedcinema.com seems to be the most popular.

On the downside though, importing isn't cheap. I'd love to import equilibrium but it's $50. http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/equilibrium-japanese-release-p-10771.html

There are a few others, but as it has been said importing isnt cheap.....You can also always try using the respective Amazon sites to see if there is much of a difference in price.

[terribledeli]

I received my Discovery Atlas: China Revealed HD-DVD last week. The special is still excellent, however, it doesn't feature much extras. The picture quality is slightly above average I'd say. All and all, not bad for the under $20 price tag per special.

[KaneRobot]

Just got my hd-dvd player today from EB ($120 used ^_^). Didnt come with King Kong unfortunately, so i bought Corpse Bride to hold me off til i get some of the $9.50 hd-dvds from Buy.com. Picture quality is really great. Even my normal dvds @ 480p seem to look better than dvds on my 1080i upconverting player.
Are you using a VGA cable or compoent? I'm assuming component since you said 480p.

Regardless, I have a similar reaction. I have one of the higher end Panasonic upconverting DVD players (w/Faroujda chip), but honestly between that and the 360 via VGA cable, the 360 actually looks better. I have no idea why, but I'm not griping. I'll just sell the standalone player and free up some space.

I guess its just my frugality. But damn BR & HD-DVD discs are expensive in stores. Thank god for Google Checkout ^_^. Just ordered V for Vendetta, Goodfellas & Fast Times @ Ridgemont High.
Just a head's up, Goodfellas and FT@RH aren't exactly a shining example of HD-DVD's picture quality. It's not a deal-breaker or anything, but don't expect to be blown away. For the prices you can get them via GCO, though, it's definitely worth it.

[Sarang01]

No shit Kane. I wish more people would buy "Casablanca". I plan on picking up "Forbidden Planet". The special edition is really tempting.

[KaneRobot]

Updated OP, looks like Failure To Launch...failed to launch. Release date TBD.

That leaves us with a whopping one release for this week.

[tenzor]

was Hollywoodland a good movie? I am desperate for a new HD-DVD, but I am not sure if I should bite on this movie since I should be saving for The Departed which comes out the following week. It sucks that they are both combo hd/dvds because the price is going to go up another $10 dollars, but the departed will be worth it

[psychobrawler]

Jet Li's Fearless was freaking awesome. Both the film itself, and the cinematography in HD. One of my favorites so far on the format... Too bad it's so freaking expensive.

[thrustbucket]

Jet Li's Fearless was freaking awesome. Both the film itself, and the cinematography in HD. One of my favorites so far on the format... Too bad it's so freaking expensive.

Great movie. Just curious, do you folks who have seen Fearless watch it dubbed or subtitled?

[SteveMcQ]

Jet Li's Fearless was freaking awesome.... Too bad it's so freaking expensive.Not to mention out of stock at nearly every place that I can use the GCO to get it a bit cheaper. I might just end up buying this at full price.

[Bezerker]

Are you using a VGA cable or compoent? I'm assuming component since you said 480p.

Yea, im using Component. I've been looking into the VGA cables. My local GS supposedly has 4+ of the VGA cables for $9.99 each. Guess ill try my luck tomorrow.

Thanks for the heads up on Goodfellas & Fast Times. I wasnt really expecting stunning quality with the older movies, just wanted to build up a nice collection. For $11.40 & $14~ shipped, i really cant complain too much. Today i also bought King Kong, since my player didnt come with it. Movie looks alright, im just dissapointed that even with my widescreen tv its still letterboxed.

[KaneRobot]

Great movie. Just curious, do you folks who have seen Fearless watch it dubbed or subtitled?

Always subbed. The dubs take me out of the movie completely.

Thanks for the heads up on Goodfellas & Fast Times. I wasnt really expecting stunning quality with the older movies, just wanted to build up a nice collection.

Yeah, no big deal. I bought Happy Gilmore for the same reason, I just wanted a little variety.

[LinkinPrime]

Bad news on the Spielberg HD-DVD's:

Unfortunately, it seems the Spielberg trio was a bit premature. Today, the HD DVD Promotional Group has removed the offending titles from its list, and issued a full apology (http://www.hddvdprg.com/eng/list.html) via its website:
The inclusion in the January 29 update of our 'Coming Soon List' of three Steven Spielberg classics was an error on our part. The HD DVD Promotion Group expresses sincere apologies to Steven Spielberg, Universal Studios Home Entertainment and HD DVD fans for this mistake. We will endeavor to prevent any similar mistake and to provide accurate information.
As for Universal's response to the news, they continue to express the same sentiments as always regarding any big A-list titles from top directors. A request for comment from the studio brought this now-canned response, first made by Ken Graffeo, EVP of Universal Studios Home Entertainment, regarding the studio's 2007 HD DVD plans:
Universal feels the key to getting a great HD DVD disc is filmmaker participation. They have been educating filmmakers about the possibilities for interactivity, picture and sound available with HD DVD. There are other challenges like scheduling that come into play when working on DVD/HD DVD releases with filmmakers. Universal is committed to working with filmmakers whenever possible to put out the best quality presentation they can.


http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Disc_Announcements/Steven_Spielberg/Universal/HD_DVD_Promotions_Group_to_Spielberg_Fans:_Whoops! _/461

[RedvsBlue]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I want my Jurassic Park dammit. I think Spielberg's been hanging out with Lucas too much. That's gotta be the reason why he suddenly doesn't want his movies on the new movie format. Fuck this, I will MAKE him understand why Jurassic Park needs to be in HD.

[psychobrawler]

Always subbed. The dubs take me out of the movie completely.




I Agree wholeheartedly.

[lordopus99]

Not to mention out of stock at nearly every place that I can use the GCO to get it a bit cheaper. I might just end up buying this at full price.

DVDplanet.com has them in stock now so I finally grabbed my copy at 22.98. I have been waiting over three weeks.

[ryanbph]

haven't gotten an hd dvd in awhile...I think I am going to bite on hollywoodland tonight...and then departed next week

[thrustbucket]

Anyone know the cheapest place to pre-order the departed? Or is it just best to wait till it's out and use GCO?