Best Square or Enix or Square Enix game thats not a Final Fantasy? [Mobile/Archive]

Memorex

01-14-2007, 04:21 PM

Whats the best Square Enix or Square, or Enix game that is not a Final Fantasy game, because if i didnt put that in there, im pretty sure i would just get a bunch of Final Fantasy VII answers. Which I would really like to play, but dont feel like dropping $70.00 on it.

I really like Einhander, I would aslo like to pick this one up too, but its another cost issue, and im a poor college student.

rabbitt

01-14-2007, 04:23 PM

Dragon Quest VIII

The Crotch

01-14-2007, 04:25 PM

Front Mission 1. Because everything is better with giant robots. Including Final Fantasy Tactics.

Supercake

01-14-2007, 04:25 PM

Dragon Quest VIII

Since you're a poor college student, this is perfect for you. Great game that's a Greatest Hit.

The Mana Knight

01-14-2007, 04:26 PM

Xenogears, no contest.

TheOneGod

01-14-2007, 04:28 PM

Now you are talking about two diffrent comapnies and the fact that Enix own Sqaure now.

I am leaning towards Wonder Project J series vs the Secret Of Mana series.

Then again Ramonacing Saga series. The Saga series is like Final Fantasy but with that alive feeling.

Enix has so many games out there that people barely knows about.

rabbitt

01-14-2007, 04:29 PM

Since you're a poor college student, this is perfect for you. Great game that's a Greatest Hit.

Plus, it's readily available for less than twenty bucks. It'll take you some serious hours to complete though.

Memorex

01-14-2007, 04:34 PM

Plus, it's readily available for less than twenty bucks. It'll take you some serious hours to complete though.

Yeah, im working on Kindom Hearts right now, then i'll probably want to play Kingdom Hearts 2. I'm also looking at purshasing Final Fantasy X and then X-2. Also played a demo for FFVIII back when i still played my ps1 and I loved it, so i will probably look to pick that one up, before a ridiculous price hike on that one too.

spoo

01-14-2007, 04:37 PM

Crono Trigger.

Memorex

01-14-2007, 04:38 PM

Crono Trigger.

I was waiting for someone to say this one, it took longer than i thought.

SMMM

01-14-2007, 04:39 PM

Rad Racer, no contest

spoo

01-14-2007, 04:44 PM

I was waiting for someone to say this one, it took longer than i thought.
I am also shocked it wasn't already listed. Do yourself a favor if you want to play it don't play the PS version. I bought the PS version on day one and took it back on day two because of the inexcusable load times.

Memorex

01-14-2007, 04:51 PM

I am also shocked it wasn't already listed. Do yourself a favor if you want to play it don't play the PS version. I bought the PS version on day one and took it back on day two because of the inexcusable load times.
But the load times are a lot cheaper. $60.00 complete for no load times or $10 complete for two games with load times. Once again, the poor college student is going to take the latter of the two. And also because i still have not gotten around to purchasing my snes.

Chacrana

01-14-2007, 05:04 PM

Definitely Xenogears. One of my favorite games of all time.

Vinny

01-14-2007, 05:05 PM

I'll second Chrono Trigger. In fact, Chrono Trigger is the single greatest Sqaure/Square-Enix game ever. Nothing comes close to the RPG-orgasm that is Chrono Trigger.

naes

01-14-2007, 05:06 PM

Chrono Trigger. Do yourself a favor and don't play Final Fantasy VII.

spoo

01-14-2007, 05:08 PM

But the load times are a lot cheaper. $60.00 complete for no load times or $10 complete for two games with load times. Once again, the poor college student is going to take the latter of the two. And also because i still have not gotten around to purchasing my snes.

It sounds like it would be ok on paper, but then you start playing it. If you don't want to pay for the SNES version don't play CT yet then. *or play it with ZSNES and buy a PSX usb adapter (SNES USB adapters are pricey)* Yes the PSX version is that bad.

naes

01-14-2007, 05:11 PM

www.retrousb.com (http://www.retrousb.com)

They got good prices.
It sounds like it would be ok on paper, but then you start playing it. If you don't want to pay for the SNES version don't play CT yet then. *or play it with ZSNES and buy a PSX usb adapter (SNES USB adapters are pricey)* Yes the PSX version is that bad.

Memorex

01-14-2007, 05:24 PM

It sounds like it would be ok on paper, but then you start playing it. If you don't want to pay for the SNES version don't play CT yet then. *or play it with ZSNES and buy a PSX usb adapter (SNES USB adapters are pricey)* Yes the PSX version is that bad.

i have a recoil usb controller that is pretty much a PS2 controller without rumble, i play a lot of games with that. And sometimes i use my roomates 360 controller

62t

01-14-2007, 06:16 PM

kingdom hearts

Pijaibros

01-14-2007, 06:30 PM

Obviously the correct answer is Einhander, you clods.

It's a fine looking title moving at a brisk 60FPS. It has a rather dandy techno soundtrack and clear voices.

I enjoy the weapons system in which you just have to pick up the toys that the enemies leave behind. There's even secret weapons that you can get if you do things right.

Branching levels are a nice touch. Has a great scoring system in which you get kudos for systematically taking apart the bosses. Do well enough and you get access to fun bonus ships! Oh did I mention you have multiple ships to choose from, too? Yeah, it's hot!

I hope Project Sylph (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/sylph/) (X360) actually has a chance to arrive in the US. I will import this if not! It's made by the same guys behind Einhander!

blueweltall

01-14-2007, 06:39 PM

Xenogears

ValkyrieVF-1S

01-14-2007, 06:45 PM

Parasite Eve.

botticus

01-14-2007, 07:01 PM

Chrono Trigger.

furyk

01-14-2007, 07:02 PM

Adventures of Tom Sawyer.

willardhaven

01-14-2007, 10:26 PM

Chrono Cross

zewone

01-14-2007, 10:28 PM

Easily Xenogears.

Memorex

01-14-2007, 10:35 PM

Easily Xenogears.

how much should i pay for a copy of xenogears, because theres one on ebay right now for under $20 (non GH) and then one right under it is like $41? So what is the price that i shoudl be willing to play for this game that you all love?

RelentlessRolento

01-14-2007, 10:40 PM

vagrant story.

also eighrez...

zewone

01-14-2007, 10:42 PM

Dandeschain

01-14-2007, 10:54 PM

I would have to say DQVIII.

whoknows

01-14-2007, 10:57 PM

Radiata Stories and Parasite Eve

Spades22

01-14-2007, 11:15 PM

Super Mario RPG!

Kaijufan

01-14-2007, 11:20 PM

Chrono Trigger.
I hope to see a sequel, or at the very least a remake on either the DS or XBLA in the future.

VanillaGorilla

01-14-2007, 11:26 PM

This topic would actually be harder if you asked "Worst Square Enix game that's not a Final Fantasy game". I'll say Grandia 3, a game that completely flies in the face of Square Enix's philosophy of creating RPG's with painfully dull battle systems.

Memorex

01-14-2007, 11:28 PM

Chrono Trigger.
I hope to see a sequel, or at the very least a remake on either the DS or XBLA in the future.

What was Chrono Cross if it wasnt a sequal? I'm not being sarcastic either, i have never either. So im just wondering. I had always thought it was the sequal.

VanillaGorilla

01-14-2007, 11:30 PM

Wait, I thought the question was in regards to Square Enix games, as in, games put out after the merger?

zewone

01-14-2007, 11:32 PM

mykevermin

01-14-2007, 11:36 PM

how much should i pay for a copy of xenogears, because theres one on ebay right now for under $20 (non GH) and then one right under it is like $41? So what is the price that i shoudl be willing to play for this game that you all love?

I'd say it's well worth $20, but I never sold mine, so I have no idea what it typically fetches on eBay. It really ebbs and flows, I think.

For under $20 you can't go wrong. Unless the discs are all fucked up and the game has no case.

Memorex

01-14-2007, 11:39 PM

Wait, I thought the question was in regards to Square Enix games, as in, games put out after the merger?

sorry i'll edit the title, in op i specified that it can be from either companies before the merger too

Kaijufan

01-14-2007, 11:45 PM

What was Chrono Cross if it wasnt a sequal? I'm not being sarcastic either, i have never either. So im just wondering. I had always thought it was the sequal.
Yeah it was but it wasn't nearly as good as Chrono Trigger (though it had a better soundtrack). What I want is a third Chrono game that's more like Tigger then Cross.

Memorex

01-14-2007, 11:51 PM

Yeah it was but it wasn't nearly as good as Chrono Trigger (though it had a better soundtrack). What I want is a third Chrono game that's more like Tigger then Cross.

alright, gotcha

Kawnhr

01-14-2007, 11:52 PM

Front Mission 5 (import, unfortunately).

alongx

01-14-2007, 11:58 PM

Chrono Trigger is the best. Xenogears is amazing, but has some serious pacing issues - disk one is painfully slow, and disk 2 is ridiculously fast.

alongx

01-15-2007, 12:00 AM

I'd say it's well worth $20, but I never sold mine, so I have no idea what it typically fetches on eBay. It really ebbs and flows, I think.

For under $20 you can't go wrong. Unless the discs are all fucked up and the game has no case.

You should be able to find it for under $20, ever since the reprint they've sold for cheap.

Kain Vincent

01-15-2007, 12:09 AM

I second Vagrant Story, Xenogears and Chrono Trigger. Also, try Threads of Fate (underrated if you ask me) and Parasite Eve.

If you are into the FullMetal Alchemist anime, give the PS2 RPGs a try.

Memorex

01-15-2007, 12:12 AM

You should be able to find it for under $20, ever since the reprint they've sold for cheap.

alright, sounds good, i wont bid on any expensive ones then.

now i just have to hope for a FFVII reprint

The Crotch

01-15-2007, 12:30 AM

Front Mission 5 (import, unfortunately).
Finally, some more love for the Wanzers.

I haven't played any FMs since the original - do they continue with the same plotline?

Dante Devil

01-15-2007, 12:37 AM

Chrono Cross was very good. I liked the fact you could choose to enter battles. Square's Vagrant Story was was very good. I loved the combat system and the armor and weapon system was different.

Kawnhr

01-15-2007, 12:43 AM

Finally, some more love for the Wanzers.

I haven't played any FMs since the original - do they continue with the same plotline?

Two and three take place in the same universe, but they're all distant sequels (Two is 15 years later, three is 10 years after 2). Not sure about the fourth and fifth.

The Crotch

01-15-2007, 01:01 AM

Damn.

Well, I'll pick 'em up some day when they're all either totally forgotten or worth $200 each.

snotnose_colossal

01-15-2007, 01:02 AM

bushido blade

Zen Davis

01-15-2007, 01:47 AM

bushido blade

zionoverfire

01-15-2007, 02:06 AM

Star Ocean 2, unique battle system, entertaining story.

Kawnhr

01-15-2007, 02:11 AM

Star Ocean 2, unique battle system, entertaining story.

That's actually a tri-Ace game, and was published by Enix.. so it doesn't really fit what the OP is asking for.

Still a kickass game, however.

RelentlessRolento

01-15-2007, 03:14 AM

I forgot to say FM3... I loved the length and depth of that game... too bad 4 sucks and 5 isn't localized...

Inf^Shini

01-15-2007, 04:03 AM

I love Einhander too. I picked it up at a Blockbuster for 10 bucks like 3-4 years ago.

What blows is that they just gave me the CD with no cover, and it had that blockbuster sticker on it >=/

Gameboy415

01-15-2007, 04:07 AM

Here's my favs, in no real order:

-Secret of Mana / Seiken Densetsu series
-Chrono Trigger / Chrono Cross
-Brave Fencer Musashi / Samurai Legend Musashi
-Einhander
-EVO: Search for Eden
-Illusion of Gaia (published by Nintendo and Enix)
-Kingdom Hearts / KH: Chain of Memories / Kingdom Hearts 2
-Valkyrie Profile
-Drakengard 1 & 2
-Super Mario RPG

Roufuss

01-15-2007, 05:19 AM

sblymnlcrymnl

01-15-2007, 05:34 AM

It's been said many times already, and for good reason. Chrono Trigger.

drone8888

01-15-2007, 05:50 AM

Not to condone d/l'ing... but you can get some wonderful classic games for free online :)
I'm not sure if it's allowed, but if you can find English Subbed Bahamut Lagoon, or Treasure Hunter G... those are 2 great games.

PS1, Xenogears without a doubt! Bushido Blade's alright, along with Tobal #1.

PS2,.... I don't think there was one must have, or even kind of a decent game for the system. Of course I hate Xenosaga.

Good luck.

Lorddraco07

01-15-2007, 01:17 PM

Soulblazer has to be my favorite game made by enix.

RelentlessRolento

01-15-2007, 04:43 PM

The Bouncer was a genre that had a to of potential and played great, but sadly died due to lack of length and interesting plot.

Also, FFXI would be at the top of my list if the length of doing anything was cut in half.

jngx80

01-15-2007, 06:08 PM

Chrono Trigger is probably the best Square game. Secret of Mana is also up there. I like both because the stories are actually quite simple and straight forward. Sequels to both games got a lot more complicated - Crono Cross and Seiken Densetsu 3 had zero charm.

Soulblazer was an awesome enix game. The graphics are pretty ugly today but it's still fun. The music in the beginning level is burned into my brain.

MusicNoteLess

01-15-2007, 06:14 PM

Geno FTW!

Super Mario RPG

Mr. Anderson

01-15-2007, 06:16 PM

Einhander.

MrFixit66

01-15-2007, 08:56 PM

yo man, any of the mana games. easy. legend of mana is mad kick ass.

VAD3R or Fro

01-15-2007, 08:58 PM

Chrono Trigger Definitely!!!

SpecTrE3353

01-15-2007, 10:09 PM

Crono Trigger.

Hands down.

Isn't it "Chrono Trigger" though? And the main characters name is Crono?

spoo

01-15-2007, 10:23 PM

Hands down.

Isn't it "Chrono Trigger" though? And the main characters name is Crono?
Yes it is and I'm guilty of also correcting the same typo.:dunce:

The Crotch

01-15-2007, 10:25 PM

Chrono Trigger was fantastic, but I... didn't...

... like... the...

*cough*

... the...

...character art...

Sarang01

01-15-2007, 10:37 PM

Yeah it was but it wasn't nearly as good as Chrono Trigger (though it had a better soundtrack). What I want is a third Chrono game that's more like Tigger then Cross.

WRONG! "Radical Dreamers" on the BS-X is the direct sequel and is even referenced by the name of Kidd's group so you xhave a 3rd game. Unfortunately the direct sequel is entirely text based,
As for games I'd say ANYTHING from Enix on the SNES was underappreciated especially and "Robotrek" serves as an excellent before game to Pokemon IF it came out before like I suspect. Btw wtf is "Actraiser 3" already?!
You're kidding right Rolento? "The Bouncer" was solid in terms of plot and the action wasn't bad, though it was nowhere near worth $50. Also "The Bouncer" was one of the few Square games that didn't suffer from heavy jaggy syndrome. Let's HOPE FFXIII doesn't suffer from ANY jaggies. If it does I would suggest Square hire some people from Sega to show them how to program.

crazytalkx

01-15-2007, 10:39 PM

Xenogears for Square
Valkyrie Profile for Enix

RelentlessRolento

01-15-2007, 11:02 PM

Xenogears for Square
Valkyrie Profile for Enix

Valkyrie was originaly a square title. :?:

Kaijufan

01-15-2007, 11:09 PM

WRONG! "Radical Dreamers" on the BS-X is the direct sequel and is even referenced by the name of Kidd's group so you xhave a 3rd game. Unfortunately the direct sequel is entirely text based,

That sounds more like a spin off then a sequel.

Sarang01

01-15-2007, 11:12 PM

Nope just a different name.

Arakias

01-15-2007, 11:19 PM

Chrono Trigger and then I did like Vagrant Story.

elprincipe

01-16-2007, 12:34 AM

Secret of Mana is the best one ever released. After that you have other excellent games like SoulBlazer and ActRaiser. And you can include the Final Fantasy games in that as well since those three blow away any FF game.

Kawnhr

01-16-2007, 01:08 AM

Valkyrie was originaly a square title. :?:

Valkyrie Profile is a tri-Ace game. As with the other tri-Ace games, Enix (and now SquareEnix) publishes them.

coolsteel

01-16-2007, 02:01 AM

62t

01-16-2007, 02:04 AM

Honest answer - almost everything Square and Enix put out on the SNES that wasn't Final Fantasy was good for the most part.

And yea, I did enjoy Secret of Evermore, and even FF Mystic Quest had some redeeming qualities (i.e there has been alot worse).

You can't go wrong just picking a random SE game from the NES / SNES periods.

As soon as any of them ever show up on the VC I'll go crazy with joy.
even their Japanese SNES games are amazing. Seiken Densetsu 3, Bahamut Lagoon, Treasue Hunter G are all worth playing. The PSOne days overall are very good. It is really PS2 era they made real crap like Driving Emotion Type-S.

Alien Spider

01-16-2007, 02:29 AM

Xenogears. It's my favorite video game, bar none. I love the Xenosaga games on the PS2 also, but those are published by Namco.

Sarang01

01-16-2007, 04:05 AM

even their Japanese SNES games are amazing. Seiken Densetsu 3, Bahamut Lagoon, Treasue Hunter G are all worth playing. The PSOne days overall are very good. It is really PS2 era they made real crap like Driving Emotion Type-S.

You're not suppose to mention "Treasure Hunter G" even if it's gppd. That's their Black Sheep.

MadFlava

01-17-2007, 01:46 PM

I liked Vagrant Story....

DMFunk

01-17-2007, 01:50 PM

Brave Fencer Musashi... Such a great game... too bad Musashi: Samurai Legend wasn't nearly as good...

jshendel

01-17-2007, 02:42 PM

Xenogears!

pilferk

01-17-2007, 02:45 PM

Crono Trigger.

Without any question, whatsoever.

zewone

01-17-2007, 03:10 PM

I have a question. Everyone who chose Chrono Trigger, did you actually beat Xenogears?

I <3 Chrono as much as the next guy, but damn Xenogears was just mindblowing at the time (so was Chrono). If you haven't, I suggest playing it. It could make CT you're 2nd favorite RPG. (Like me):D

And since people are just rattling off some of their favorite Square/Enix games (not really the best):

Vagrant Story
Bushido Blade
Bushido Blade 2
Valkrye Profile (if it counts)
Star Ocean 2 (if it counts)

dopa345

01-17-2007, 03:11 PM

Front Misson 3

pilferk

01-17-2007, 03:41 PM

I have a question. Everyone who chose Chrono Trigger, did you actually beat Xenogears?

I <3 Chrono as much as the next guy, but damn Xenogears was just mindblowing at the time (so was Chrono). If you haven't, I suggest playing it. It could make CT you're 2nd favorite RPG. (Like me):D

I did....I still prefer Chrono Trigger.

I liked Xenogears, but....there were too many cutscenes, IMHO. That, combined with the fact I'm not a "big mech universe" fan. I played it, and beat it, because people raved about it. And I did enjoy it, a LOT. But not as much as I enjoyed CT.

Edited to fix my fat fingering of xenogears to xenosaga.

zewone

01-17-2007, 04:02 PM

I did....I still prefer Chrono Trigger.

I liked Xenosaga, but....there were too many cutscenes, IMHO. That, combined with the fact I'm not a "big mech universe" fan. I played it, and beat it, because people raved about it. And I did enjoy it, a LOT. But not as much as I enjoyed CT.
I was talking about Xenogears, not Xenosaga.

Chacrana

01-17-2007, 04:12 PM

rodeojones903

01-17-2007, 04:14 PM

Without a doubt its Xenogears for me. That is my favorite RPG period.

lionheart4life

01-17-2007, 04:17 PM

Parasite Eve. At least at the time it was really good, but the gameplay is probably pretty dated by now. It's shorter and has a cool story though.

fearad

01-17-2007, 07:48 PM

I think that Illusion of Gaia for the SNES is definately one of the best non-FF game, besides Chrono Trigger of course. I hope both these games become availible to download on the Wii's virtual console.

pilferk

01-18-2007, 08:47 AM

I was talking about Xenogears, not Xenosaga.
And I meant xenogears and not xenosaga. I Fat fingered it.

Ps1 era (well, really, seemed like 16 bit era, but...), guy named Fei is the MC, used the same ATB2 that CT used. The martial arts combat was good..the gears combat not so much (IMHO...again, remembering I'm not a huge "big robot" fan). Uneven pacing, Too many cutscenes starting with the end of disk 1 (if I remember right...the whole "storybook" thing....) and a frustratingly inaccessible world map on disk 2. The story was awesome (if a bit preachy, at times), and overcame all of that.

Again, I liked it a lot....but IMHO CT was better.

Gameboy415

01-18-2007, 09:06 AM

Hands down Drakengard 1 and 2 , infusing such a strong story into a hack N slash was brilliant, I actually cared what was going to happen. And speaking of stories, they had to be Square-Enix's darkest story to date, between the baby eating in the first to the child beating screw redemption i'll make you suffer theme the second had going it really made me want to keep playing just to see what would happen next.

Woo! Another Drakengard fan! :D

Did you get the 5th hidden ending on the first game?
That was hands down one of the coolest extras I've ever seen in a game!
And the hidden boss was SO fuckING HARD!!!

I only got 1 ending on Drakengard 2, because I got stuck on (the mid-air fight w/you-know-who) on hard mode. Maybe I'll finish it up someday.

coolsteel

01-18-2007, 02:04 PM

Woo! Another Drakengard fan! :D

Did you get the 5th hidden ending on the first game?
That was hands down one of the coolest extras I've ever seen in a game!
And the hidden boss was SO fuckING HARD!!!

I only got 1 ending on Drakengard 2, because I got stuck on (the mid-air fight w/you-know-who) on hard mode. Maybe I'll finish it up someday.

When I got Drakengard 1 I didn't know what to expect, as a result I was so blown away I marathon played the game, but due to being so burned out I never got any of the secret endings. . When part 2 came out I did the same thing, maybe one day i'll suck it up and try for the different endings but for now i'm content reading about them on gamefaqs.

forgrim

01-18-2007, 02:52 PM

wow, i've never seen that many xenogears fans...til now.

when i lived with my parents, they frowned upon video game playing, so i actually used the excuse of sleeping in the basement during the summer cuz it was too hot, and played xenogears from 1am-7am, slept til 11am, and pretended i had a good night's sleep, took a nap during the day, and resumed the same schedule til i beat the game [6-8 days i belive]

mind you, i was in high school, and on summer vacation, so its not that freaky.

b3b0p

01-18-2007, 08:09 PM

Super Mario RPG
Chrono Trigger
Kingdom Hearts
Dragon Quest VIII (Never played any of the others)

Bouncer

Just kidding on the last one.

Z-Saber

01-18-2007, 08:48 PM

Chrono Trigger. Anyone who says otherwise has horrible taste in games.

hack

01-18-2007, 09:20 PM

Absolutely Chrono Trigger. Although there are tons of other games that are almost right up there.

As a side note, haven't played Xenogears, but I'm trying to get it. Maybe off ebay.. or something. Trying to gather up all the great RPGs I've missed on the PS1/2.

Rusty Ghia

01-18-2007, 09:33 PM

It makes me weep for humanity that Vagrant Story has been mentioned but twice. The game is perfect in practically every regard.

zewone

01-18-2007, 09:34 PM

It makes me weep for humanity that Vagrant Story has been mentioned but twice. The game is perfect in practically every regard.
It's true. The story and gameplay are amazing.

spoo

01-18-2007, 10:26 PM

It makes me weep for humanity that Vagrant Story has been mentioned but twice. The game is perfect in practically every regard.
I am not sure I played the same Vagrant Story as you did. Not to start a flame war but VS is one of the most flawed RPG that I have ever played. There is a reason that Square never used the same game engine for any other game. If you go just by story and atmosphere it is awesome.

Chrono72090

01-18-2007, 10:30 PM

Chrono Trigger. No contest.

forgrim

01-19-2007, 10:26 AM

^ coming from a username Chrono...who woulda thunk!

Rusty Ghia

01-19-2007, 09:40 PM

I am not sure I played the same Vagrant Story as you did. Not to start a flame war but VS is one of the most flawed RPG that I have ever played. There is a reason that Square never used the same game engine for any other game. If you go just by story and atmosphere it is awesome.

I'm curious, what didn't you like about the combat system?

Wolfpup

01-19-2007, 10:16 PM

Chrono Trigger.

IMO it's not better than the real Final Fantasy games of that era through 10, but it is just as good, which means I'd buy a system for it.

And I did...I bought my X-Box 360 solely on the strength of Final Fantasy 6-10 and Chrono Trigger.

RelentlessRolento

01-19-2007, 10:16 PM

:lol: does anyone else other than me even enjoy Eihgrez and Bouncer?

also to throw my hat in again: Tobal 1 and 2

Ma12kez

01-19-2007, 10:18 PM

I can't decide so I would say Vagrant Story and Chrono Trigger.

spoo

01-19-2007, 10:32 PM

I'm curious, what didn't you like about the combat system?
Sure since you asked; First the weapon building and constant changing of weapons vs type of enemy. Not that big of a deal normally but no easy way to change weapons and the system is dependent on weapon changes. It takes a good 20 - 30 seconds+ to change weapons and and you change weapons constantly.
Second, the combo system vs bosses. This was annoying on many levels.
Third, the save system.
Fourth, the map system and every room looking the same.
Fifth, the flow difficulty goes from hard, easy back to hard with no flow.
I have a few more issues with the game but it has been many years since I played it.

celticjess

01-19-2007, 10:57 PM

I'd also have to go with xenogears....love that game

Rusty Ghia

01-19-2007, 11:35 PM

Sure since you asked; First the weapon building and constant changing of weapons vs type of enemy. Not that big of a deal normally but no easy way to change weapons and the system is dependent on weapon changes. It takes a good 20 - 30 seconds+ to change weapons and and you change weapons constantly.
Second, the combo system vs bosses. This was annoying on many levels.
Third, the save system.
Fourth, the map system and every room looking the same.
Fifth, the flow difficulty goes from hard, easy back to hard with no flow.
I have a few more issues with the game but it has been many years since I played it.

I agree with you about the weapon changing. It was pain to go into a room, find 3 enemy types, and have to constantly change back and forth. That is my one complaint with the game.

xeverex18

01-21-2007, 04:33 AM

Kingdom Hearts. One of the few games i actually beaten. I havent beaten Chrono Trigger though. It was kinda hard at the end.

jimbodan

01-21-2007, 04:40 AM

Secret of Mana with Chrono Trigger being a close second and Kingdom Hearts being a distant third.

Sarang01

01-21-2007, 05:44 AM

:lol: does anyone else other than me even enjoy Eihgrez and Bouncer?

also to throw my hat in again: Tobal 1 and 2

I enjoy "The Bouncer" but "Eihgrez" is a "Power Stone" ripoff.

Z-Saber

01-21-2007, 08:08 AM

I havent beaten Chrono Trigger though. It was kinda hard at the end.Uhh... it's really freakin' easy. The game does not require any level grinding at all. I can't see how it was hard considering I beat this game several times when I was just a kid.

xeverex18

01-21-2007, 08:55 PM

When you were free to roam, i went inside the castle and got beaten down hard.Uhh... it's really freakin' easy. The game does not require any level grinding at all. I can't see how it was hard considering I beat this game several times when I was just a kid.