Super Paper Mario to come April 9 (Update!).

[suko_32]

Update:
From Kotaku:

"Nintendo just announced that Super Paper Mario will be hitting the Wii on April 9. The game was originally set for the Gamecube, but wouldn't that be silly. Yes, we need some straight up classic Mario action on the Wii. Hopefully this game wasn't already nearing completion when they made the shift. I guess we'll know in a few months. Brian Crecente"

http://kotaku.com/gaming/nintendo/wii-super-paper-mario-dated-235822.php

Update 2 (Thanks ScrubKing):
Some Q&A via 1up.com
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=7895316&publicUserId=1002415

[Sir_Fragalot]

Nice, Wii play and Sonic in Febuary, Mario Party in March and Super Paper Mario in April a nice 3 months of games coming up, I am excited.

[hack]

Ooh. Sounding good. Awesomeness awaits in the following months.

[GizmoGC]

Finally! I will have to play through Paper Mario 2 again in anticipation.

[Apossum]

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please, if there is any justice in this world, this will come true.


here's the gonintendo update:

Super Paper Mario - To be released in APRIL! Mario finds himself in the interdimensional town of flipside as a black hole looms overhead along with floating math equations. You have to use the controller sideways moving the control pad and jumping with the 2 button (OLD SCHOOL!). A button allows you to switch from 2D to 3D and later in the game you’ll encounter creatures called Pixls that will give Mario new abilities that make an interesting use of the Wiimote. Tippy (a butterfly) allows you to search areas for secrets, you can point the Wiimote at the screen to spotlight hidden doors or learn info about the enemy. When you jump on an enemy, if you shake the Wiimote you can gain extra points. Game has graphical enhancements from the E3 build (the issue has new screenshots).

[Zen Davis]

Mine!

[coolz481]

Nice. Now Metroid Prime 3 for May/June and I'll be set.

[MidnightRain]

Excellent, as long as that April release date holds.

[furyk]

Nice. Now Metroid Prime 3 for May/June and I'll be set.

Maybe sooner. I remember hearing April somewhere.

[io]

Interesting... Hmmm... Now I need to check the date on that old GR preorder I had for Super Paper Mario and see if I'll run into the 1 year limit (when preorders magically disappear). Probably safest just to cancel it (since it was for the GC anyway) and redo it when they get it listed for the Wii.

Lets see - WarioWare in Jan, Wii Play and Sonic Secret Rings in Feb, Mario Party in March, Super Paper Mario in April, Metroid in May or June, and Mario Galaxy, Batallion Wars, Fire Emblem, Dragonquest, Super Mario Strikers, etc, some time before the end of the year. Yeah, that "GC with a gimmick" sure has NO good games coming out this year. What a waste of my $250 :roll:.

[schuerm26]

"WarioWare in Jan, Wii Play and Sonic Secret Rings in Feb, Mario Party in March, Super Paper Mario in April, Metroid in May or June, and Mario Galaxy, Batallion Wars, Fire Emblem, Dragonquest, Super Mario Strikers, etc, some time before the end of the year. "

So what are all these people talking about when they say no games are coming for the Wii? And don't forget Heatseeker, SSX Blur and The Godfather. From what I have seen Heatseeker looks like it might have some potential (fingers crossed). There is tons of stuff coming out in the coming months that looks interesting. Browsing through upcoming releases on Gamestop, they show quite a few interesting titles.

[Rusty Ghia]

Nintendo really needs to step up the releases. One game a month simply will not due. I guess that I'll do what I did with the Gamecube: wait a couple of years so that there are at least 5 games that I deem "must have."

[botticus]

This is excellent news. Now that gives me the incentive to try to finish Paper Mario: TTYD before then. I will have to consult a guide to get unstuck from the point I was at a couple months ago.

Lets see - WarioWare in Jan, Wii Play and Sonic Secret Rings in Feb, Mario Party in March, Super Paper Mario in April, Metroid in May or June, and Mario Galaxy, Batallion Wars, Fire Emblem, Dragonquest, Super Mario Strikers, etc, some time before the end of the year. Yeah, that "GC with a gimmick" sure has NO good games coming out this year. What a waste of my $250 :roll:.That game is looking delicious so far... more of the same from GC, apparently, and now rumored to have 44 chapters versus 28 from the first. Controlled using Wiimote, Classic Controller, or GC controller. Feb release in Japan, so if the delay for the first holds true, we'll see it here in the fall again.

[furyk]

Interesting... Hmmm... Now I need to check the date on that old GR preorder I had for Super Paper Mario and see if I'll run into the 1 year limit (when preorders magically disappear). Probably safest just to cancel it (since it was for the GC anyway) and redo it when they get it listed for the Wii.

Lets see - WarioWare in Jan, Wii Play and Sonic Secret Rings in Feb, Mario Party in March, Super Paper Mario in April, Metroid in May or June, and Mario Galaxy, Batallion Wars, Fire Emblem, Dragonquest, Super Mario Strikers, etc, some time before the end of the year. Yeah, that "GC with a gimmick" sure has NO good games coming out this year. What a waste of my $250 :roll:.

Ah there in lies the problem with the Wii. Two games, Dragonquest and Sonic, are both third party. Everything else isn't. The greatest problem with the Gamecube was not a lack of great games, but a lack of 3rd Party exclusives. The biggest threat of the Wii's dominance is if it becomes the "Nintendo player" as Luke Smith likes to call it. Elebits is great as is Trauma Center, but the vast majority of the 3rd party games have been shitty ports.

[schuerm26]

It is truly amazing how people can find negative in absolutely everything. Unbelievable.

Godfather, SSX Blur, The Bigs, Bust A Move Bash, Tiger Woods, Prince of Persia Rival Swords, Blazing Angels, Cooking Mama Cook Off, Legend of The Dragon, Heatseeker, Mortal Kombat Armageddon, Dragon Quest Swords, Alien Syndrome.

Im assuming you are thinking those will all be crap?

[Strell]

If this was not a "F*CK YES!" moment for you, I am quite sure you have no soul.

[RedvsBlue]

Wait wha? A first part Nintendo game has its release date bumped up?!?!? This is unprecidented!

[botticus]

Ah there in lies the problem with the Wii. Two games, Dragonquest and Sonic, are both third party. Everything else isn't. The greatest problem with the Gamecube was not a lack of great games, but a lack of 3rd Party exclusives. The biggest threat of the Wii's dominance is if it becomes the "Nintendo player" as Luke Smith likes to call it. Elebits is great as is Trauma Center, but the vast majority of the 3rd party games have been shitty ports.True. I just hope you're blaming the third party developers for that and not Nintendo.

But to be fair, io did forget Cooking Mama, SSX Blur, Resident Evil, and my personal favorite, Konami Action Game #1 (though I guess I can't necessarily count this as a 2007 release. :lol:)

[Purple Flames]

This is great news if it's true. Wii drought my ass!

[GizmoGC]

Nintendo really needs to step up the releases. One game a month simply will not due. I guess that I'll do what I did with the Gamecube: wait a couple of years so that there are at least 5 games that I deem "must have."

PS3 launched 2 days before Wii...what games have come out for that? ANYTHING?

[Ace-Of-War]

Don't forget BRAWL you guys!

VERY excited about that one, I also hope HAL has a Kirby game lined up soon. Kirby seems like it would be great fun on the Wii.

[RedvsBlue]

Don't forget BRAWL you guys!

VERY excited about that one, I also hope HAL has a Kirby game lined up soon. Kirby seems like it would be great fun on the Wii.

I guarantee you Brawl won't see the light of day until October at the earliest. Nintendo needs something big for next Christmas season and Brawl seems to be the most likely candidate.

[dmaul1114]

Playing with the Wiimote sideways isn't very comfortable. I hope they at least have options for the classic controller or GC controller.

[io]

True. I just hope you're blaming the third party developers for that and not Nintendo.

But to be fair, io did forget Cooking Mama, SSX Blur, Resident Evil, and my personal favorite, Konami Action Game #1 (though I guess I can't necessarily count this as a 2007 release. :lol:)

Yeah, my list was by no means comprehensive - it was a jab at all those people who say nothing is coming out this year and will wait till 2008 or 2009 to get a Wii where there are a "few games" they want. As far as I'm concerned, just the games I listed kick the PS3's upcoming releases up, down, left, and right. Then there's the ones you listed (how could I forget about KAG#1!?) and I'm sure there will be some out of nowhere surprises from 3rd parties in the later half of the year.

And Furyk - I think with the way Wii's keep selling out we will hit the critical mass needed for much better 3rd party support than the GC got. It will be like the DS, though, in that many were waiting to see how the launch went. Just about now they are probably kicking many projects into gear and we won't see the results of that for a year or so - just like with the DS.

(And I'm being realistic on Brawl - I didn't list it because my expecations are for it to be released in 2008).

[Starky27]

If this was not a "F*CK YES!" moment for you, I am quite sure you have no soul.

Those were my exact words when I saw this news. LttP on the VC, Super Paper Mario update for the Wii, now all I need is a new 2-D Metroid announced for the DS in the next couple hours for the trifecta...

[furyk]

Yeah, my list was by no means comprehensive - it was a jab at all those people who say nothing is coming out this year and will wait till 2008 or 2009 to get a Wii where there are a "few games" they want. As far as I'm concerned, just the games I listed kick the PS3's upcoming releases up, down, left, and right.

And Furyk - I think with the way Wii's keep selling out we will hit the critical mass needed for much better 3rd party support than the GC got. It will be like the DS, though, in that many were waiting to see how the launch went. Just about now they are probably kicking many projects into gear and we won't see the results of that for a year or so - just like with the DS.

I hope to God they do. The good thing is that unlike Microsoft, Nintendo releases a ton of first party games. So hopefully it won't be "massive launch, sold out until March" nothing nothing nothing, Oblivion/GRAW, nothing, nothing, nothing HEY GUYZ FULL AUTO/PREY IZ GRATE!, nothing, actual releases like Dead Rising and Saints Row, Microsoft finally puts out 1st party games, current 360 goodness. The Wii still has too many mini game games in the first four months for me to feel really confident about what the Wii will do in keeping interest high. If Nintendo can hold interest until Metroid, they're gravy. The problem is is that Wii Play isn't Wii Sports, Sonic "sounds" shallow, Cooking Mama is another mini game game, and SSX Blur could end up being a disaster given how poorly Tony Hawk has done. I'm cautiously optimistic, but Nintendo could isolate a lot of interested gamers if they can't put out another game that approaches the type of experince Zelda was (something that can be played hours on end).

[Roufuss]

DS started out very slowly as well, and took about a year or so to really take off.

We can only hope the same happens to the Wii. Once the DS took off, there is no looking back, amazing games every month - I hope the Wii will be the same.

[furyk]

True. The DS didn't face the competition of an established handheld though. Even though the 360 stands at substantially more then the Wii, it does a lot more things better then the PSP did over the DS. I'm just worried at the moment, that's all. I sincerely believe that Nintendo should have put more time into getting Mario Galaxy out earlier then Mario Party. Perhaps I'm just being paranoid though.

[Rusty Ghia]

PS3 launched 2 days before Wii...what games have come out for that? ANYTHING?

Which is exactly why I don't have a PS3...that, and I absolutely refuse to pay $600 for a damn game machine. Believe me, I love Nintendo, but I don't want the Wii to go the same route as the Gamecube.

People keep trotting out their games that they are excited about, but of all the games listed so far, only one or two interest me.

[io]

Well, even if the worst case scenario goes down and the Wii ends up a "Nintendo game player" only (with little to no third party support) it would still be a great system well worth my launch purchase. The Nintendo games this year ALONE would make it worth that. Of course I want to see it take off like the DS and get tons of support, but I won't be horribly upset if that doesn't happen. I will end up with a PS3 or Xbox 360 in addition to it regardless (simply because I do want some HD gaming) - it will just be a matter of which I end up playing more (right now if I were to get a 360 I'd probably play the Wii 4-to-1 vs the 360, with maybe a little surge for the 360 at first since it would be new to me).

[pop311]

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[Ikohn4ever]

nice

[io]

Here's a little IGN article on the Wii's "Most Anticipated Titles for 2007":

http://wii.ign.com/articles/757/757372p1.html

There's a few on there I hadn't even heard of (No More Heroes and Disaster - well, OK, I've heard of the latter, but knew nothing about it). They don't even mention Super Paper Mario. There are top 10 lists from 2 guys there (with much overlap of course). Both of those combined are a nice set of games - and as the second guy points out, there are sure to be some surprises from Nintendo before the end of the year.

Edit - whoops, Super Paper Mario is on one of the lists :oops:

Here's a nice quote from the first guy:


It's funny, I really wanted to add two or three secret, still-unannounced Wii projects to this list, but knew I'd never be able to get away with it. Even without those titles, though, it was incredibly difficult to come up with a roster of just 10 Wii games that I'm excited about through the end of the year. I probably could have easily whipped up 20 or maybe even 30 projects - all of which will hit in the next 12 months.


Damn, I want to know what the 2 or 3 secret ones are - what a rat bastard for teasing us like that!

[dmaul1114]

People keep trotting out their games that they are excited about, but of all the games listed so far, only one or two interest me.

Exactly.

Right now out of confirmed games, only Metroid Prime 3, Mario Galaxy, Super Paper Mario and Super Smash Bros: Brawl have me really excited.

There are a few more I have an eye on like Sonic etc.

But I'm not dissapointed yet as consoles always suck the first year. I expect the Wii to be like the DS and be pretty crappy in terms of games I personally like for the first year or so, and really pick up steam in it's second holiday season and then keep on trucking.

[Scobie]

Damn, I want to know what the 2 or 3 secret ones are - what a rat bastard for teasing us like that!

Nintendo's pretty smart with what they're doing. They've definitely got some *huge* guns in their arsenal for Christmas '07. Taking two holiday seasons in row is going to be massive, and given the current course, there's no reason why they shouldn't overtake the 360 by early '08.

[Apossum]

Don't forget BRAWL you guys!

VERY excited about that one, I also hope HAL has a Kirby game lined up soon. Kirby seems like it would be great fun on the Wii.


i just don't think this game will make it out this year.

[foltzie]

It is truly amazing how people can find negative in absolutely everything. Unbelievable.

Godfather, SSX Blur, The Bigs, Bust A Move Bash, Tiger Woods, Prince of Persia Rival Swords, Blazing Angels, Cooking Mama Cook Off, Legend of The Dragon, Heatseeker, Mortal Kombat Armageddon, Dragon Quest Swords, Alien Syndrome.

Im assuming you are thinking those will all be crap?

I dont know Mortal Kombat has the stigma of a one night stand that may have given you herpes.

[GizmoGC]

i just don't think this game will make it out this year.

Brawl? Yeah, it will, but not towards the end. Maybe a November release? I was kinda hoping they would do it like the Cube launch...a month or so after.

[Spades22]

I guess this will be the first exclusive Wii game I actually will want! I basically agree exactly with dmaul, those 4 titles, Metroid, Galaxy, Smash, Paper Mario, are the ones I want for sure. As well as Fire Emblem though. Sonic I'm looking at as well... so ya once those come out, I'll get a Wii...

[Chacrana]

Good to know that there's something coming out in the semi-near future... definitely picking this one up since it looked like it had a lot of potential at E3 last year.

[Dkellar]

Great news!!

[VanillaGorilla]

In other news, they are still releasing Genesis games, too.

[GizmoGC]

In other news, they are still releasing Genesis games, too.

And that has to do with Super Paper Mario how?

[jollydwarf]

I almost got excited about this, but then I remembered to do peek at my Nintendo Time Conversation chart, and as we all know, "April" means "September".

Seriously, maybe it'll actually hit sometime between the Vernal Equinox and Summer Solstice, but I wasn't expecting this title anytime in 2007 at all, so even December 31st would be okay in my book.

[sarausagi]

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product_id=220618

What happened to this coming out on Gamecube? It keeps popping up as a future GC game

[GizmoGC]

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product_id=220618

What happened to this coming out on Gamecube? It keeps popping up as a future GC game

Gamecube is dead, Jim.

[jollydwarf]

I would disregard all that. They're probably just 'staying the course' until they officially announce it for the Wii, for whatever reason. The 'cube is dead. Sorry.

[suko_32]

It was announced a while ago that it's scrapped on the cube and going on the Wii instead. Too lazy to find source to back up claim.

[sarausagi]

Well, only reason I asked is because an earlier thread where some people posted that it came back and would come out on GC first.

I'm just wondering why line ups for everything but the PS2 and 360 look so sad.

[RedvsBlue]

Nintendo's pretty smart with what they're doing. They've definitely got some *huge* guns in their arsenal for Christmas '07. Taking two holiday seasons in row is going to be massive, and given the current course, there's no reason why they shouldn't overtake the 360 by early '08.

There's a reason why they won't overtake the 360, Halo 3.

[furyk]

There's a reason why they won't overtake the 360, Halo 3.

Halo 3 is bigger then anything Nintendo or Sony has for 08 (not bigger then GTA though), but does anyone really think that the vast majority of people who want Halo 3 and willing to pay $400 for the system don't already have a 360 for Gears and the hundreds of other shooters on the system? Without a price drop, I doubt Halo 3 moves the same number of units we all think it can.

Even with that, while Halo 3 is bigger then any title anyone can come up with, I think that Super Smash Bros Brawl comes close to driving as many units as Halo since the Wii is cheaper (assuming it makes November which it probably won't).

[pop311]

IT would be awesome if on May 3 Nintendo just released all of its games for the years.

[daroga]

There's a reason why they won't overtake the 360, Halo 3.And yet, the way I've been seeing hype for this little white box grow, I'd say Wii Sports is a Halo-killer in terms of selling systems.

Halo 3 will be huge, but I think in the end Wii Sports will have sold more Wiis than Halo 3 will sell 360s (especially considering a good chunk of the people already anticipating Halo 3 have a 360, myself not yet included). It's not a move aimed at us, so it's hard for us to fathom, but just yesterday my Dad was trash talking me about how his Wii Tennis scores were higher than mine (I nabbed him a system a few weeks ago and sent it to him after he loved mine at Christmas). He has many people coming to his Super Bowl party early next weekend just to play the Wii. It's really weird.

If the hype is sustained and they can actually get these systems in stores, I see no reason why Nintendo wouldn't overtake Microsoft in systems sold by a slim margin this year. That's a lot of "if" though.

I'm anxious to get my hands on Super Paper Mario. Now would be a great time to start releasing demos via the Wii Shop Channel, Nintendo. My little SD card can take it, I promise.

[munch]

And yet, the way I've been seeing hype for this little white box grow, I'd say Wii Sports is a Halo-killer in terms of selling systems.

Halo 3 will be huge, but I think in the end Wii Sports will have sold more Wiis than Halo 3 will sell 360s (especially considering a good chunk of the people already anticipating Halo 3 have a 360, myself not yet included). It's not a move aimed at us, so it's hard for us to fathom, but just yesterday my Dad was trash talking me about how his Wii Tennis scores were higher than mine (I nabbed him a system a few weeks ago and sent it to him after he loved mine at Christmas). He has many people coming to his Super Bowl party early next weekend just to play the Wii. It's really weird.



I'll probably get flamed for this, but I think Wii Sports is a killer app.

[schuerm26]

I'll probably get flamed for this, but I think Wii Sports is a killer app.

I 100% agree. I can play Wii Baseball for hours. I WILL get flamed for this, but I have more fun playing Wii Baseball than I do Twilight Princess.

[botticus]

Well, only reason I asked is because an earlier thread where some people posted that it came back and would come out on GC first.

I'm just wondering why line ups for everything but the PS2 and 360 look so sad.Because those are the only established systems at the moment.

[munch]

I 100% agree. I can play Wii Baseball for hours. I WILL get flamed for this, but I have more fun playing Wii Baseball than I do Twilight Princess.

I'm a Wii Bowling type of guy. That's the first game I bust out when people come over to check out the system.

[dmaul1114]

It is truly amazing how people can find negative in absolutely everything. Unbelievable.

Godfather, SSX Blur, The Bigs, Bust A Move Bash, Tiger Woods, Prince of Persia Rival Swords, Blazing Angels, Cooking Mama Cook Off, Legend of The Dragon, Heatseeker, Mortal Kombat Armageddon, Dragon Quest Swords, Alien Syndrome.

Im assuming you are thinking those will all be crap?


I doubt they'll all be crap, but nothing their really interests me personally.

Godfather-hate GTA and gta ripoffs (hate open ended gameplay, the control etc.)
SSX Blur- hate extreme sports games
Bust A Move Bash- not a big fan of puzzle games, never liked any previous games in this series
Tiger Wood- hate golf
Prince of Persia- series got stale after the 1st game, and this is just a remake of the 3rd one
Mortal Kombat Armageddon- series has sucked balls since MKII
Dragon Quest Swords- never got into the series, and this is just a spin off. Could end up being good like Rocket Slime, but probably not worth $50
Alien Syndrom--haven't heard of this one before.

I'm also no interested in Wiiplay, Mario Party or the Mario Soccer game. :D

Different strokes for Different folks.

Metroid, Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario and Smash Bros are the only confirmed/likely 2007 titles that have me excited. But I can't complain as 4 titles I'd probably buy at $50 is pretty good for one system with my exteremly picky and limited tastes. And there will hopefully be a decent surprise in the third party games here and there.

[Apossum]

Brawl? Yeah, it will, but not towards the end. Maybe a November release? I was kinda hoping they would do it like the Cube launch...a month or so after.

I hope so, but I can't see them releasing MP3, Super Mario Galaxy and Brawl all this year...the world might blow up from so much awesomeness. and if one were to get delayed for improvements, it would probably be Brawl.

[furyk]

It is truly amazing how people can find negative in absolutely everything. Unbelievable.

Godfather, SSX Blur, The Bigs, Bust A Move Bash, Tiger Woods, Prince of Persia Rival Swords, Blazing Angels, Cooking Mama Cook Off, Legend of The Dragon, Heatseeker, Mortal Kombat Armageddon, Dragon Quest Swords, Alien Syndrome.

Im assuming you are thinking those will all be crap?


Godfather: Port
SSX Blur: New game, totally different gameplay.
The Bigs: Port
Bust A Move Bash: New game, same gameplay
Tiger Woods: Port
Prince of Persia Rival Swords: Port
Blazing Angels: Port
Cooking Mama Cook Off: Remake
Legend of The Dragon: Port
Heatseeker: Port
Mortal Kombat Armageddon: Port
Dragon Quest Swords: New game, totally different game play.
Alien Syndrome: Port

I don't think that these games will suck, it's just that the Wii needs third party exclusives that are designed for the Wii that are new IPs. That list you posted seems to only emphasize this more.

[Zen Davis]

How many of you have even beaten Thousand Year Door?

[ArthurDigbySellers]

How many of you have even beaten Thousand Year Door?

Raises hand. Great game.

[Spades22]

Me... lol. Beaten the first one 3 times or so, and TTYD once or twice (forget xD). Ya, great game....I feel like playing it again!

[Strell]

TTYD is an amazing game. Highly recommended.

[mriswyth]

Is this game supposed to be an RPGish game like the other Paper Mario games, or is it to be a platformer like the Super Mario games just with a 3D element?

I was really looking forward to this game because I thought it was to be like the latter, but it seems that everyone else has a different view of this game. Has it been stated to be either type of game? (Source?)

I want some more Mario platforming! NSMB just left me wanting more.

[Strell]

It is primarily a platformer. But being that it is in the Paper Mario universe/style, there might be RPG elements.

Some kinda of Metroidvania shit would be incredible.

[prisonerac]

I beat TTYD last year and have been waiting for this game since. I am glad it is coming out in April just in time for my birthday.

[Apossum]

have not beaten it, but I spent many hours watching my nephew and niece playing it. Looks like fun, but I'm more interested in platformers.

[shipwreck]

Are they going to slap a "Best Seller" logo on some of the initial shipments of this game like they did on my copy of TTYD? That still irks me a little bit, but yes, I've beaten both previous Paper Mario games.

I'm certainly glad to see this is coming out pretty soon though as after I finish up Twilight Princess, I really didn't see much that I was going to be interested in this spring. (Please don't list the games that I should be interested in, I know what's coming out).

[jollydwarf]

Thousand-Year Door is probably my favorite RPG not named Oblivion from the last five years (I haven't played Final Fantasy XII yet, or even removed the shrinkwrap), as it's got outstanding gameplay mechanics to keep the battles more interactive, and the highest form of 'adult' humor: the kind that doesn't require profanity or suggestive themes (see: the ravens in the trees random banter). I'll take Bowser pratfalls over preening, poutty pretty boys (and prissy, perfect princesses) anyday.

[dmaul1114]

Raises hand. Great game.

Same here. Only gripe was there was too much worthless dialog that had you reading too much when the story and dialogue was pretty crappy for the most part.

But still a fantastic game.

Not much bearing on Super Paper Mario though since it is a platformer.

[The Crotch]

Same here. Only gripe was there was too much worthless dialog that had you reading too much when the story and dialogue was pretty crappy for the most part.

But still a fantastic game.

Not much bearing on Super Paper Mario though since it is a platformer.
Emphasis mine.

To say that you are in the minority here would be like saying water is wet.

[Strell]

Thousand-Year Door is probably my favorite RPG not named Oblivion from the last five years (I haven't played Final Fantasy XII yet, or even removed the shrinkwrap), as it's got outstanding gameplay mechanics to keep the battles more interactive, and the highest form of 'adult' humor: the kind that doesn't require profanity or suggestive themes (see: the ravens in the trees random banter). I'll take Bowser pratfalls over preening, poutty pretty boys (and prissy, perfect princesses) anyday.

These are my exact thoughts. I'm tired of bullshit boyband fantasy swordcamp titles that adhere to all 192 cliches that one website catalogs.

Bowser was hilarious in the game. I kept having the feeling that he was constantly yelling "HELL YEAH! HELL YEAH!" the whole time he was doing anything. Which made every scene he was in especially hilarious. Marching around, knocking down blocks 'n shit. This makes me think he should be saying it at all times. Stealing the princess? HELL YEAH! Stealing some item of unquestionable power? HELL YEAH! Beating the shit out of Luigi? HELL YEAH!

[dothog]

I beat and enjoyed TTYD. Though, much like with SMRPG, I don't understand the overwhelming accolades. Nintendo characters imposed on another ho-hum RPG narrative still makes for a ho-hum narrative. Some people like the NOA localization team's sense of humor--I don't.

There have been RPGs that I have played multiple times to try to level faster using secrets or simply because I enjoyed the combat system, but TTYD wasn't one of them. I thought the Badge system looked like it could be fun to piss around with on a number of playthroughs, but I just couldn't bring myself to press A as many times as needed to get through dialogue, etc. all over again.

It was a 20-25 hr. RPG made much longer by cutesy dialogue that went on and on and on. But goddamn was it a fine looking game.

[dmaul1114]

Emphasis mine.

To say that you are in the minority here would be like saying water is wet.

I'm mainly talking about the long periods of dialogue inbetween missions. Some of the end game stuff was great (like the Ravens etc.).

But I didn't need the 5-10 minute cutscenes in after getting a star etc. Just slowed down the game as the main story was boring IMO and it got repetitive without the rambling by the old Toad professer after every stage etc.

I was 27 when I played it, maybe the story was more engrossing for younger gamers. Beats me.


It was a 20-25 hr. RPG made much longer by cutesy dialogue that went on and on and on. But goddamn was it a fine looking game.

Exactly what I was getting at.

Still a great game though, as gameplay is the key.

[Blind the Thief]

I'm mainly talking about the long periods of dialogue inbetween missions. Some of the end game stuff was great (like the Ravens etc.).

But I didn't need the 5-10 minute cutscenes in after getting a star etc. Just slowed down the game as the main story was boring IMO and it got repetitive without the rambling by the old Toad professer after every stage etc.

I was 27 when I played it, maybe the story was more engrossing for younger gamers. Beats me.

I'll agree with oyu that it took a bit too long after getting a star, but to say that the dialogue was crappy is just plain wrong. I play the few RPGs I do solely for the plot, the only exception being Nintendo-released RPGs: I play those purely for the dialogue. It doesn't matter what point in the game you look at, it's always THE BEST localization out there.

"The Great Gonzalez" alone made the entire game worth a purchase.

[dothog]

It doesn't matter what point in the game you look at, it's always THE BEST localization out there.
Again, this is very much subjective. What you consider "THE BEST" others consider "mind numbingly saccharine."

I've never given the "kiddie" argument any credence, but if I were to cave and lob kiddie bombs at Nintendo, I wouldn't pick on the graphics, gameplay, or game themes, I'd pick on the localization efforts. TTYD is a good example of a title that feels to me like NOA localizers took liberties with the original to make their own cutesy dialogue.

And when there's that much dialogue, for the first few hours you kind of chuckle and say, "Okay, that's cute, I'm hitting A now." Beyond that you're tapping A as fast as you can while muttering, "Yes, yes, you're all so quirky and original. Move along now..."

[Strell]

If you're not down with the Rawk Hawk, you're gonna get Rawked.

[shipwreck]

I kind of wish they had made a Paper Luigi game based upon the stuff he talked about doing during TTYD. His adventure sounded pretty trippy and humorous. Maybe they'd be able to farm it out to somebody since they already have the story and gameplay elements laid out.

[furyk]

I kind of wish they had made a Paper Luigi game based upon the stuff he talked about doing during TTYD. His adventure sounded pretty trippy and humorous. Maybe they'd be able to farm it out to somebody since they already have the story and gameplay elements laid out.

It'd make a good DS game. That's for sure.

[Spades22]

Haha that part was awesome....Getting yoshi was sweet, Rawk Hawk was the ultimate wrestler, and The Great Gonzales was the best name ever xD

[prisonerac]

Anyone see this:

http://www.destructoid.com/coming-for-psp-crush-29428.phtml

Looks cool and reminds me of elements that was featured in the demo for SPM from last year. Hopefully SPM has similar puzzle elements. And the description from Nintendo Power makes me think that the leveling up system might add some cool puzzles.

[Blind the Thief]

Anyone see this:

http://www.destructoid.com/coming-for-psp-crush-29428.phtml

Looks cool and reminds me of elements that was featured in the demo for SPM from last year. Hopefully SPM has similar puzzle elements. And the description from Nintendo Power makes me think that the leveling up system might add some cool puzzles.

Wow...that looks really fuckin' cool. I'll have to keep my eye on that one.

[evanft]

If you're not down with the Rawk Hawk, you're gonna get Rawked.

With teh cawk?

[dothog]

I saw a bunch of screens for SPM and was surprised by how grainy things looked. I figured the graphics would get a boost out of the GC to Wii transfer.

[dios]

simply will not due. I guess that I'll do

Are you fucking serious?

[crystalklear64]

Predicting prices for TTYD will go up soon.

[GizmoGC]

Predicting prices for TTYD will go up soon.

Its a Players Choice title and I have seen it everywhere. If it goes up, people are just morons.

[crystalklear64]

Its a Players Choice title and I have seen it everywhere. If it goes up, people are just morons.
I was speaking of a non-PC version, if there is one.

[Rocko]

Nice! I gotta play TTYD first, though.

Better get on it!

[botticus]

In case anyone was still unconvinced of the April release, Nintendo just put out a goofy press release announcing the marriage of Peach and Bowser...

... on April 9, 2007 at the beginning of Super Paper Mario.

http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=11419

[Kaijufan]

That's a great press release.

[GizmoGC]

In case anyone was still unconvinced of the April release, Nintendo just put out a goofy press release announcing the marriage of Peach and Bowser...

... on April 9, 2007 at the beginning of Super Paper Mario.

http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=11419

...and I need to get some napkins!
FINALLY!!!

[Purple Flames]

In case anyone was still unconvinced of the April release, Nintendo just put out a goofy press release announcing the marriage of Peach and Bowser...

... on April 9, 2007 at the beginning of Super Paper Mario.

http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=11419

April 9th is gonna be quite an eventful day for me: Both teh wedding of Peach and Bowser AND my mother's birthday.

[Ispep Aloc]

According to the rep I contacted, "GameCube still has a large base of users but Nintendo’s focus is making games for DS and Wii." So there might be other announced Gamecube titles made by Nintendo jumping to Wii, like DK Bongo Blast, which is marked as a TBA release.

[Friend of Sonic]

In case anyone was still unconvinced of the April release, Nintendo just put out a goofy press release announcing the marriage of Peach and Bowser...

... on April 9, 2007 at the beginning of Super Paper Mario.

http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=11419
You're right. That shit is goofy as hell. And it's way short too.

[suko_32]

Just woke up and about to post this lol. Updating.

[dmaul1114]

A So there might be other announced Gamecube titles made by Nintendo jumping to Wii, like DK Bongo Blast, which is marked as a TBA release.

Pretty sure it's been all but confirmed that Bongo Blast is now a Wii game.

We won't see anymore first part (and no decent games period) on the GC in the future. It's as dead as the original X-box.

The PS2 will straggle on for a while due to its HUGE user base.

[botticus]

Pretty sure it's been all but confirmed that Bongo Blast is now a Wii game.

We won't see anymore first part (and no decent games period) on the GC in the future. It's as dead as the original X-box.

The PS2 will straggle on for a while due to its HUGE user base.Kirby is also expected to hit Wii. That accounts for any announced but unreleased GC games.

[strayfoxx]

It is truly amazing how people can find negative in absolutely everything. Unbelievable.

Godfather, SSX Blur, The Bigs, Bust A Move Bash, Tiger Woods, Prince of Persia Rival Swords, Blazing Angels, Cooking Mama Cook Off, Legend of The Dragon, Heatseeker, Mortal Kombat Armageddon, Dragon Quest Swords, Alien Syndrome.

Im assuming you are thinking those will all be crap?

You're just throwing out 3rd party games to throw out 3rd party games. Yes 50% of those will be crap. Given EA's track record with games, and most importantly games rushed in the 1st year of a system all EA's games will be rushed ports. Blazing Angels in no way has any potential to be good, especially given Ubisoft's rushed crappy Wii titles. And I'll hold out hope for DQ and PoP.

As numerous developers have stated, when making 3rd party games for a Nintendo system you're biggest competitor is Nintendo. Nintendo has such a strong track record with their software that after consumers shell out money for their software there is less of an incentive or a lack of money to buy 3rd party software. Its true. I really cannot think of any 3rd party GC games that sold tremendously well besides RE4 and Soul Calibur (exempting EA games, because those will sell well on any system)..

[sarausagi]

Maybe you all should quit arguing and just be happy this game got a release date, when it could have been left forgotten like many N64 and Gamecube games did.

This and Cooking Mama might convince me to get a Wii a few years when it's at a GC price point.

[BREVITY]

I didnt go back a page to read up on it but there are now rumors that this game will release via VC. Makes me wonder just how good looking and long it will be if its got to be kept to certain size restraints. Also I am wondering if this will be one to make me get out this 2G card for, I have yet to need it so far.

[botticus]

I didnt go back a page to read up on it but there are now rumors that this game will release via VC. Makes me wonder just how good looking and long it will be if its got to be kept to certain size restraints. Also I am wondering if this will be one to make me get out this 2G card for, I have yet to need it so far.False. The initial story on Joystiq (maybe Kotaku) this morning said it was coming to the VC because the guy was apparently blind or can't read.

[govegan]

Looks cool. I hope they get the N64 Paper Mario released on the VC by then.

[Vegan]

False. The initial story on Joystiq (maybe Kotaku) this morning said it was coming to the VC because the guy was apparently blind or can't read.

Yeah, there's no way in hell this game would come out for VC. It would be way too big.

[extzed]

Playing with the Wiimote sideways isn't very comfortable. I hope they at least have options for the classic controller or GC controller.

I'm guessing this is about brawl, I was thinking the same but then I thought a little bit more and came up with this:

smash bros has always really only used two buttons the A and B with the shoulder buttons to dodge/block if I am recalling correctly.

so what I was thinking is on the wii with the remote and nunchuck:
using the analog on the nunchuck like in zelda for movement, the A and B on the wiimote for well A and B, flicking either the nunchuck or the wiimote for the roll and you still have the 2 buttons on the nunchuck for shield/whatever.

The more I think about it I totally could see that working and being comfortable too.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

I'm guessing this is about brawl, I was thinking the same but then I thought a little bit more and came up with this:

smash bros has always really only used two buttons the A and B with the shoulder buttons to dodge/block if I am recalling correctly.

so what I was thinking is on the wii with the remote and nunchuck:
using the analog on the nunchuck like in zelda for movement, the A and B on the wiimote for well A and B, flicking either the nunchuck or the wiimote for the roll and you still have the 2 buttons on the nunchuck for shield/whatever.

The more I think about it I totally could see that working and being comfortable too.

He was talking about SPM. It will be played with the Wiimote sideways (NES style). SSBB is going to use either the GC and/or Classic Controller. The devs have already stated that the main gameplay will not use the Wiimote.

[hupp]

fight night 3 and resistance
they have that little game called Metal Gear 4 coming
Paper Mario will contol best with the classic controller.
If they rush mario galaxy the ps3 will take over sooner than you think
PS I like all the consoles this generation, even psp finally

[zman73]

fight night 3 and resistance
they have that little game called Metal Gear 4 coming
Paper Mario will contol best with the classic controller.
If they rush mario galaxy the ps3 will take over sooner than you think
PS I like all the consoles this generation, even psp finally


??????

[Vegan]

??????
Man, I blocked him ages ago.

[captmurphy]

fight night 3 and resistance
they have that little game called Metal Gear 4 coming
Paper Mario will contol best with the classic controller.
If they rush mario galaxy the ps3 will take over sooner than you think
PS I like all the consoles this generation, even psp finally

Unintentionally the funniest post I have read in a long time.:lol:

[zatos]

I sure hope this game is good because I'm really looking forward to it.

[suko_32]

I sure hope this game is good because I'm really looking forward to it.

Me too.

[tiredfornow]

fight night 3 and resistance
they have that little game called Metal Gear 4 coming
Paper Mario will contol best with the classic controller.
If they rush mario galaxy the ps3 will take over sooner than you think
PS I like all the consoles this generation, even psp finally

yeahhhhh..... ???????:drool:

[Pijaibros]

Still sour that this and new Kirby were cancelled and ported to the Wii.

Real lame, Nintendo

[GizmoGC]

Still sour that this and new Kirby were cancelled and ported to the Wii.

Real lame, Nintendo

Sell maybe 200k copies to the all but dead GameCube, or possibly millions to the 3.5 Million+ Wii owners starving for a new Mario game, or any game for that matter? Hmmm...

[dmaul1114]

Sell maybe 200k copies to the all but dead GameCube, or possibly millions to the 3.5 Million+ Wii owners starving for a new Mario game, or any game for that matter? Hmmm...

That's semi-fault logic for a couple reasons.

1. The gamecube has an installed base of around 17 million, not all of those have sold them and moved on to Wii yet obviously.

2. The Wii plays GC games so Wii owners could still buy it, and many probably would given that there isn't shit coming out on the Wii worth playing right now anyway. Not to mention its not like they are souping up the graphics in these games since they moved to the Wii, so even those of us with Wiis aren't really getting anything out of the move.


I don't mind the shift since I have a Wii, but I can see how those that still have the Cube and no Wii would be rightly pissed over this.

[Vegan]

2. The Wii plays GC games so Wii owners could still buy it, and many probably would given that there isn't shit coming out on the Wii worth playing right now anyway. Not to mention its not like they are souping up the graphics in these games since they moved to the Wii, so even those of us with Wiis aren't really getting anything out of the move.


You know as well as I do that most people don't think like that. It doesn't matter that Cube games work on the Wii, Gamecube is yesterday's news.

[dmaul1114]

You know as well as I do that most people don't think like that. It doesn't matter that Cube games work on the Wii, Gamecube is yesterday's news.

I don't think so, I've seen lots of posts of new Wii owners asking for Gamecube game reccomendations because they never bought a GC.

Given the absolutely dreadful game library on the Wii right now, I think people are more apt to look at GC games.

VC games have been selling well, so Wii owners are interested in playing non-current gen games. GC stuff isn't going to be on par with VC games, but it will still sell if it's marketed well to both Wii owners and the millions who have GCs and not Wiis yet.

[Pijaibros]

Of course it matters. This is what spurred many GC owners to update to Wii. just like how the PS2's backward powers was what pushed people to get that system.

Even people who have a Wii now are wondering what other games they missed out on? After all there's only so many Wii games worth playing and people are itching to try out the system's other features. A VC game only does so much.

[Scrubking]

So is Super paper Mario an rpg or what? I saw a video and he was jumping around like a regular Mario game. Can someone explain how this game works?

[dmaul1114]

So is Super paper Mario an rpg or what? I saw a video and he was jumping around like a regular Mario game. Can someone explain how this game works?

It's a platformer with some RPG elements I believe (sure on the platformer part, not sure on the RPG elements).

[soonersfan60]

It's an action RPG. You do platformer things to get to the RPG battles, then you can press action command buttons during battles to enhance offensive and defensive moves. It's great fun.

[The Crotch]

Wrong game, man...

[AHEADAMUS]

It's an action RPG. You do platformer things to get to the RPG battles, then you can press action command buttons during battles to enhance offensive and defensive moves. It's great fun.

Wrong game... We're talking about Super Paper Mario, not the Paper Mario RPG games.

The poster who said that it's a platformer with RPG elements (such as hit points) is correct. Also has the 2-D/3-D mix thrown in, where you can switch at certain moments to pass by otherwise unpassable areas.

[soonersfan60]

So Super Paper Mario isn't going to have action RPG battles like Paper Mario for N64 and Paper Mario TTYD for GC?

[AHEADAMUS]

Not from anything we've seen. It's going to be more like traditional Mario gameplay, though again, with some RPG elements (like hit points) thrown in.

[GizmoGC]

That's semi-fault logic for a couple reasons.

1. The gamecube has an installed base of around 17 million, not all of those have sold them and moved on to Wii yet obviously.

2. The Wii plays GC games so Wii owners could still buy it, and many probably would given that there isn't shit coming out on the Wii worth playing right now anyway. Not to mention its not like they are souping up the graphics in these games since they moved to the Wii, so even those of us with Wiis aren't really getting anything out of the move.


I don't mind the shift since I have a Wii, but I can see how those that still have the Cube and no Wii would be rightly pissed over this.

Again, who would pay $50 for a Cube game when they could get the Wii version for the same price? While there are still people who own a Cube, who would really buy it at this point? Very little. Just because the Wii is backwards compatible does not mean people are willing to drop $50 on an 'old' game. The Cube has been dead for a while now, I can't even remember the last big release.

[Vegan]

The Cube has been dead for a while now, I can't even remember the last big release.

Paper Mario 2, heh

[Kaijufan]

The Cube has been dead for a while now, I can't even remember the last big release.
Twilight Princess.;)

[Vegan]

Twilight Princess.;)

ooooh I see what you did there.

[dmaul1114]

Again, who would pay $50 for a Cube game when they could get the Wii version for the same price? While there are still people who own a Cube, who would really buy it at this point? Very little. Just because the Wii is backwards compatible does not mean people are willing to drop $50 on an 'old' game. The Cube has been dead for a while now, I can't even remember the last big release.


I was referring to if they only put it out on the GC, rather than moving into the Wii in the first place.

If there's not a Wii version, Wii owners would be apt to consider it. I sure as hell would, just to dust of my Wii since Zelda remains the only game worth a purchase to me, and that's been done with since December.

[io]

I was referring to if they only put it out on the GC, rather than moving into the Wii in the first place.

If there's not a Wii version, Wii owners would be apt to consider it. I sure as hell would, just to dust of my Wii since Zelda remains the only game worth a purchase to me, and that's been done with since December.

Yeah, I have to agree (well, except for the dust part as we've been playing plenty of Wii games) - I'd buy this in a second if it was a GC-only release. The only reason for Nintendo to put it out for the Wii is to bolster the new game release schedule for the Wii during a particularly sparse period (pre-summer). They'd probably get more initial sales as a GC game, but they may get more longer-term benefit for putting it on the Wii (stronger lineup plus maybe more people pick up Wii's just for this game - as Wii's should be easy to find by April!).

[bruin]

Ohhh my God this game looks so good. I just bought and played through The Thousand Year Door in preparation and it was awesome. I think I'm going to preorder this tomorrow.

[FriskyTanuki]

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2007/02/21/104,1172037414,67428,0,0.html

Famitsu just posted some 16:9 widescreen screens of the Super Paper Mario, which looks really nice. Here's a translation of the article itself, though it seems like there's not much information from the initial glance:


The action adventure game for Wii of 2007 April 19th sale schedule than Nintendo Co., '[supapepamario]'. With this work, [pichi] princess is carried off again. It hurries [mario] and [ruiji] which inquire about the news to the [kutsupa] castle, but the black count appears there. The count makes the entrance to the strange dimensional space, sucks to [kutsupa] and [ruiji]. One person [mario] which is left, in order to help [pichi] princess, with the guide of strange [chiyouchiyo]” [anna]” means to face to the town of strange dimension. On the one hand, [pichi] princess who faints. When she awakes, there [kutsupa] of the benedict form!　How, wedding of the cover [ri] was done. As for the source who set up this wedding, that black count. Just, whether what is designed ......!?

ABOVE THE PICS:
The picture is changed to with 3D from 2D,” dimensional [waza]”. When [mario] remembers this skill, it reaches the point where it can change to the world of 3D from the usual 2D world. If in the 3D world the physical strength it continues, because you can act, while searching the road and the item which are not visible at the time of 2D, it is possible to venture!

BELOW THE PICS:
When the story advances, [pichi] and [kutsupa] join to the companion. Movement and” the attack of the [ho]” used the umbrella of [pichi] of [kutsupa] which and so on, you can use the action which differs in the respective character. In addition, when a certain item is taken, it changes to” enormous [dotsutomario]” and” enormous [dotsutopichi]”!　While 10 seconds becoming invincible, pushing down the enemy character and the obstacle it is possible to advance.



http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2007/02/21/h-104_67428_070221pamario.jpg.jpg
http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2007/02/21/h-104_67428_070221pamario02.jpg.jpg
http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2007/02/21/h-104_67428_070221pamario03.jpg.jpg
http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2007/02/21/h-104_67428_070221pamario04.jpg.jpg

[zatos]

This game is starting to look better and better... well maybe I'm just getting more excited anyway. I sure hope my excitement is not let down.

[Spades22]

Man can't wait for this... I see myself getting this for sure this year along with Metroid, Smash, Galaxy, and FE... I'll save all that fun for next Christmas Break =P

[botticus]

I love the SMB 1-2 level there in the third picture.

[munch]

Those graphics are so clean. It's shit like that that is going to still look amazing 20 years from now.

[Spades22]

Well ya! Look at Paper Mario 64...that still looks pretty good xD

[Strell]

Oh how me wants.

[Allnatural]

I'm still disappointed that SPM was scuttled on the 'cube, but Nintendo's strategy is sound because I'll probably buy a Wii for this.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

I posted this in the "Wii novelty" thread, but here is what I heard about SPM game mechanics:

On last Friday's 1up Yours Podcast, Shane talked about playing Super Paper Mario. He said that it starts out like regular Paper Mario where you are walking around in a town that has a shop, an inn, etc., but when you actually start playing the game, the gameplay is very similar to Super Mario games and is broken down into stages (1-1, 1-2, etc.).

Another thing that sounds interesting is that Mario does not start out with all the abilities that you would expect him to have. Mario can't run, grab turtle shells, etc., initially and you gradually get these powers to allow you to get through stages easier.

The details are still kind of hazy, but any kind of Super Mario/Paper Mario bouillabaisse is fine with me.

[elwood731]

So, Super Paper Mario is basically a new Mario Bros. platformer with RPG elements? Sounds great.

[captmurphy]

My excitement for this game has grown exponentially in the last couple days. Videos are extremely hard to come by... any links?

[botticus]

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/853/853822/vids_1.html

Looks like the E3 trailer is all that there is.

[Demolition Man]

Oh how me wants.

Its not wants... its NEEDS!

[Scrubking]

noisynoisy asks, “How do the 2D/3D mechanics work? Can the player switch between the two at any time?�??

You actually control several different characters during the game, but only Mario can ‘flip’ the world between 2D and 3D. It’s easy–all you do is press the ‘A’ button to flip to 3D, but while in that view, a meter constantly counts down…if it runs out, you’ll begin to lose HP.

noisy goes on to ask, “Is the game more action or more RPG. Is it similar to the original Paper Mario on the N64?”

It has towns, shops, NPCs, and puzzles like the Paper Mario games you know and love, but nearly all of the levels unfold as a blend of traditional side-scrolling platforming and more RPG-like puzzle elements. All combat happens in real-time, though: You’re hopping and bopping, not picking commands from a menu.

and for good measure, noisy also asks, “Does the game support progressive scan with 16.9 ratio?”

Yep. That’s how I played it. Looks crisp!

Pipking asks, “How does the gameplay handle with the remote - creative or tacked on?”

That’s veering into reviewy territory, but I’ll say that although it was clearly not a from-the-ground-up Wii project, much of the Wii-mote implementation feels intuitive and clever. You’re probably only using true Wii-mote functionality less than 20% of the time you’re playing, though.

Pipking also aks, “Is it a long game?”

I beat it in about 27 hours, though I definitely missed a lot of optional stuff. Gotta go back and get it all…

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=7895316&publicUserId=1002415

[daroga]

That looks delicious. A preview build a full month and a 1/2 before it hits, eh? I gotta finish Crackdown, Sonic, and Gears fast so I can allow myself to nab this one ;)

[Metal Boss]

Awesome, bring on the old school platforming.

[munch]

Wow. I wasn't expecting this to be a 20+ hour game. Pretty cool.

[Scrubking]

Wow. I wasn't expecting this to be a 20+ hour game. Pretty cool.

For $50 it BETTER be.

[Strell]

I'm going to go preorder with my next paycheck.

Cannot wait.

[Scrubking]

I'm going to go preorder with my next paycheck.

Cannot wait.

Even if you preorder you still have to wait. ;)

[Strell]

Even if you preorder you still have to wait. ;)

I don't need your logic!

I DON'T NEED IT AT ALL!

[PenguinoMF]

25+ hours is awesome...now to just find a Wii.

[zatos]

Since NOA decided Shane couldn't have up his whole Super Paper Mario questions thingy - here's the rest of it, or at least some of it.

I "spoilered" it just in case.



Braidedsamurai87 asks, "Will there be a Gamecube release eventually?"

Sadly, nope. Nintendo really should have though...look at how well Twilight Princess has sold on the Cube. Missed opportunity, guys....

Sunderland asks, "Does the game has a sense of humor similar to,or better than that of Paper mario 2?"

Yep, expect the same off-the-wall humor and hi jinks from PM2...I'm pretty sure the same writers/translators are back. I laughed out loud a lot while playing this game...it's especially brutal in its mockery of message board trolls.

Moogletim asks, "You said that you dont start out with the basic actions like run and other actions on the 1upyours show. Is it like Traditional RPG's and that you earn or buy them like magic in Final Fantasy?"

Good question--each character has one unique ability (Mario can 'flip,' Peach can float using her parasol, and Bowser can breathe fire), but all of them can use the abilities given to you by 'Pixls' these weird little familiars that you find throughout your quest. These guys allow you to do stuff like run really fast, throw objects/enemies, etc. The magical effects you've seen in past PM games only exist as one-time-use items.

JoeFu asks, "How is the difficulty for the game? It's not too easy is it?"

It starts out pretty easy, but gets pretty damned tough by the end...and the puzzles offer solid challenge for your brain throughout.


Underfooter muses, "Is this the next big thing for wii owners after Zelda would you say? Or is it just a mild distraction until Super Mario Galaxy?"

Compared to most of the Wii stuff out there, this is a really meaty game. It's also more accessible than the past PM games, given its traditional mario gameplay. The complex 2D/3D mechanic might scare off little kids, but I think that older gamers will want to spend some quality time with this.

New_Generation_Gamer asks several questions, starting with, "You said the player controls 'several different characters' throughout the game. Does that mean any multiplayer at all, even minigames?"

As far as I can tell, SPM has no multiplayer gameplay whatsoever. It could have a hidden minigame or something, but so far, no dice.

He then asks, "Will it work with Wii Connect24 in anyway?"

Nope.

And ends with, "Also you said you missed some optional stuff, does that mean alot of sidequests to keep you busy when you get tired of the main story?"

You'll spy the occasional mysterious locked door or inacessible area, but it's not a wide-open RPG by any means. I'm guessing there's about an hour or two of side-questing that I missed my first time through.

Some crazy kid named JohnTV asks, "Will you send it to me? Today?"

Sure thing. It's on its way.

Chronomoose asks, "Shane, do you think that Nintendo will ever do a true Mario RPG sequel rather than Paper Mario? Or is that something that went out the window when Squaresoft-Enix moved on to greener, more Sony-ish pastures?"

Seems doubtful to me, bro...at least we'll see Super Mario RPG on Virtual Console eventually. The only Square/Nintendo co-op games on the horizon are the Crystal Chronicles sequels for DS/Wii. Maybe one day we'll see something else...like maybe a Kingdom Hearts/Mario crossover! Dare to dream...

CrankyPanda (among others) asks, "Does it continue the story of a past paper mario, or does the story come from the ground up?

It's a totally original story that takes place in the wacky world of Flipside. Nothing from the previous two games here, except for Mario. and Co.

TrueNerd asks, "Is the music more akin to the other Paper Marios or is it remixes of the classic platformers or is it something entirely different?"

You'll hear plenty of fun remixes here, along with a lot of original music that uses some cool retro/chippy instruments to good effect.



Sign me up. This is enough that I am definitely going to get this game now!

[Spades22]

wasn't paper mario TTYD like 40 hours? ... or I might just be forgetting and its only like 20...

[GizmoGC]

wasn't paper mario TTYD like 40 hours? ... or I might just be forgetting and its only like 20...

25-30 hours

[SteveGo]

For $50 it BETTER be.

Haha, yeah right, how many $50 games can you honestly say are 20+ hours in single player nowadays. Better be my ass.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Haha, yeah right, how many $50 games can you honestly say are 20+ hours in single player nowadays. Better be my ass.

:D Yeah, a little game called Gears of War begs to differ. 6 - 10 hours of gameplay for $60. I'm getting to the point where I don't care how long a game is, as long as it is a fun and satisfying experience. Hell, even if a game is only 10 hours long, that just means you can probably beat it in a week and trade it in for pretty good value.

[Kaijufan]

25+ hours for this game is great. When I first read about it I figured it would be 10 hours or less.

[Scrubking]

Haha, yeah right, how many $50 games can you honestly say are 20+ hours in single player nowadays. Better be my ass.

Most games average about 20 hours, not taking into account RPGs and open-ended games that can go for 50+, so what the hell are you talking about?

[dmaul1114]

I can't wait for this game. Looks great. Will be my first Wii game purchase since Zelda.

[dmaul1114]

Most games average about 20 hours, not taking into account RPGs and open-ended games that can go for 50+, so what the hell are you talking about?

Depends. A lot of shooters (Gears of War), racing games, action games (God of War) are more in the 8-15 hour range these days in single player, with the multiplayer being the main draw in many of them.

[SteveGo]

Most games average about 20 hours, not taking into account RPGs and open-ended games that can go for 50+, so what the hell are you talking about?

I'm just talking about the fact that you act as though if it weren't at least 20+ hours, you wouldn't be buying it, which I seriously doubt. Or that you are somehow entitled to 20+ hours of single player by paying $50, which in this day is just not the case. Like others stated, most games in single player now end up lasting me 10-15 hours if I'm lucky, i.e. Crackdown, Gears of War, Wario Ware Smooth Moves.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Most games average about 20 hours, not taking into account RPGs and open-ended games that can go for 50+, so what the hell are you talking about?

Hmm, what the hell are you talking about? Browse through this thread real quick.

http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44826

You'll notice that most single player, non-rpg games are under 20 hours.

Maybe you should change your sig to:

20+ hours of gameplay is what makes games great - not story or graphics

[Scrubking]

Hmm, what the hell are you talking about? Browse through this thread real quick.

http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44826

You'll notice that most single player, non-rpg games are under 20 hours.

Maybe you should change your sig to:

20+ hours of gameplay is what makes games great - not story or graphics


You act like those times are 100% accurate fact. Do you even know what they are based on? How they were calculated?

Yeah some games are shorter than 20 hours, but then that is why I said the word average. Not to mention the fact that different gamers play at different speeds - most wanting to rush through a game.

It doesn't really matter. Any gamer who wants to consistently pay $50 for a couple hours of gameplay can do so. I won't be the one getting shafted. After all I AM a Cheapass.

[Vegan]

Am I the only one who wants shorter games?

[botticus]

Am I the only one who wants shorter games?Nope. I'm suffering trying to break 20 hours with FFVI (my all-time favorite game).

But at the same time, I won't be paying $50 for shorter games either.

[dmaul1114]

I don't want shorter games as I don't feel compelled to buy and play every decent game.

I try to keep my shelf to only 1 or 2 unplayed games, and when I finish them I go buy another 1 or 2 that I've had my eye on and take my time playing through them.

Games I miss out on I'll get to eventually during a gaming drought.

I also try to only play games that I'd rate at least a 8.0--and preferablly 9.0 or above--so that cuts down on my list of games to try out and when I get a game I don't end up liking I just quit playing and get rid of it and move on to the next game.

Thus I don't reallly care if a game is 10 hours long or 70 hours. I just play it, enjoy it, finish it whenever and move on to the next one.

[Spades22]

lol if this game was less than 20 hours I WOULDNT buy it. I'd rent it instead... so ya thats true it BETTER be AT LEAST 20. You don't see many RPG type games under 20 hours...and I dont buy many if any games at full price if they're below 15. ...I can spend 45 bucks less and beat the game in one weekend if its only 10-15 hours...

This is cause most games don't have playability forever and many don't have decent multi anyway... and if you don't play online multi at all for consoles...

[ArthurDigbySellers]

You act like those times are 100% accurate fact. Do you even know what they are based on? How they were calculated?

Yeah some games are shorter than 20 hours, but then that is why I said the word average. Not to mention the fact that different gamers play at different speeds - most wanting to rush through a game.

It doesn't really matter. Any gamer who wants to consistently pay $50 for a couple hours of gameplay can do so. I won't be the one getting shafted. After all I AM a Cheapass.

Some of the stats are just guesses as to how long it took and some are based on memory card playtime data. They may not be 100% accurate, but seeing as people are wanting to know generally how long it will take to beat a game, they are pretty good indicators.

You're right that it doesn't matter, since the idea of getting your money's worth out of playing a game is very subjective, it's just that I think you're wrong that the majority of games (again, non-rpg) offer 20 hours of gameplay. I would say that is actually the exception and not the rule.

For me, it doesn't matter all that much. I probably have around two hours of gaming time maximum each day (1 hour at lunch and 1 hour at night), so a 10-15 hour game can last quite a long time for me.

[Blind the Thief]

I came in here looking to talk about the next Mario platformer and have a good time, but I think I'll be taking my business elsewhere. Hmph.

[FriskyTanuki]

Since NOA decided Shane couldn't have up his whole Super Paper Mario questions thingy - here's the rest of it, or at least some of it.

I "spoilered" it just in case.





Sign me up. This is enough that I am definitely going to get this game now!
Yeah, I just saw this (http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=7896569&publicUserId=1002415) today and I'm continuosly disappointed that Nintendo's PR just refuses to let people know more about their games and actually be able to know about what they're anticipating.

[RedvsBlue]

I came in here looking to talk about the next Mario platformer and have a good time, but I think I'll be taking my business elsewhere. Hmph.

How long were you planning on discussing it though? If it wasn't 20 hours or more than it would probably be better if you took your business elsewhere, we don't need your kind around here.

[botticus]

How long were you planning on discussing it though? If it wasn't 20 hours or more than it would probably be better if you took your business elsewhere, we don't need your kind around here.:lol:

[bp_]

anyone find a good place to pre-order this for a discount?

[regisphilbi0]

Nintendo needs to release more. This is the next "big" Wii release that almost every Wii owner plans on getting day one. Why does nintendo NOT want people to know about this game? Its stupid, and only hurts customer relations.

[GizmoGC]

Nintendo needs to release more. This is the next "big" Wii release that almost every Wii owner plans on getting day one. Why does nintendo NOT want people to know about this game? Its stupid, and only hurts customer relations.

They just announced a release date a week ago...chill.