What if GoW was a ps3 exclusive?

[derder]

I just was thinking what would this console war would be like if Gears of War was a ps3 exclusive.

Scenario:
Every other game was still released as it was, exclusivity intact (Resistance:FoM included)
Gears of War was a ps3 exclusive released on launch day in its current form.

I know I personally would have a ps3 right now if this was the case, instead of waiting for a slickdeal. Just wanted to hear your theories.

[whoknows]

I'd have a PS3 either way.

I guess I'm one of the people that wasn't amazed by GoW...it was fun and I enjoyed it, but it wouldn't make me buy a system for it.

[dafoomie]

I just was thinking what would this console war would be like if Gears of War was a ps3 exclusive.

Scenario:
Every other game was still released as it was, exclusivity intact (Resistance:FoM included)
Gears of War was a ps3 exclusive released on launch day in its current form.

I know I personally would have a ps3 right now if this was the case, instead of waiting for a slickdeal. Just wanted to hear your theories.
PS3 would be doing better if you gave it any A-list exclusive from another system. There just aren't enough quality games out there to support the system right now, and we're seeing that reflected in the sales numbers.

[PenguinMaster]

I guess I'm one of the people that wasn't amazed by GoW...it was fun and I enjoyed it, but it wouldn't make me buy a system for it.

I wasn't amazed by GoW either. I have a 360 now and I may pick up GoW when it's $20, but it's not a high priority by any means.

[Zoglog]

what if mario was on the 360, what if God of war was on the Wii. Pointless questions with a pointless end. This feels like gamefaqs

[icruise]

I think a lot of GoW's success is that it appeals to the kind of people who like Xbox 360s anyway (the Halo crowd, if you want to over-generalize). It would certainly have helped sales of the PS3, of course, but maybe not to the degree you might think.

And I personally don't like GoW all that much. It's certainly a good game, but I beat it and don't really feel a desire to play it again. I actually enjoyed Condemned: Criminal Origins (which I finally got around to playing and beating just after GoW) more.

[help1]

PS3 online isnt as good as XBL, so it wouldn't be as much fun, sicne XBL is the only reason this thing is still alive.

Still wouldn't buy the PS3 anyway, nor would I buy a 360 JUST for GOW.

[dmes65]

Might not have gears but they will have god of war 2 and 3 soon.

[doubledown]

BUT IT WASN'T

Case closed.

[The Mana Knight]

Wouldn't make a difference to me because I still wouldn't buy it. I find Gears of War to be the most overrated game all year, maybe even more so than the Wii currently.
PS3 online isnt as good as XBL, so it wouldn't be as much fun, sicne XBL is the only reason this thing is still alive.

Still wouldn't buy the PS3 anyway, nor would I buy a 360 JUST for GOW.You don't own a PS3; therefore, you cannot judge PSN.

[MadFlava]

Threads like this are just really point out that Sony has very few first party A-List games. Sony biggest first party franchise is God of War and the sequel to that game is going to be a PS2 title. You would have figured that Sony would have moved development of God of War 2 over to the PS3 knowing that the PS3 would need as many big name titles to help it sell. I guess yet another mistake made. But really Sony has been in the console business since 1995, you would figure that they would have tons of their own first party franchises instead just God of War and Gran Turismo

[BillyBob29]

If Gears was released on the PS3 then the PS3 would actually have a game worth playing and it would also mean the 360 would have been on the market for over a year without a killer app.

[Brian9824]

Well so far the 360's online service is pretty much identical in quality once your actually in the game and playing it online so i wouldn't see a problem with playing it on a PS3.

Basically though it wouldnt be a system seller. I'll be getting Gears of War as soon as i can snag it for $30 or less, but its definitely not a system seller for me. Its a fun game but thats about it.

[The Mana Knight]

Threads like this are just really point out that Sony has very few first party A-List games. Sony biggest first party franchise is God of War and the sequel to that game is going to be a PS2 title. You would have figured that Sony would have moved development of God of War 2 over to the PS3 knowing that the PS3 would need as many big name titles to help it sell. I guess yet another mistake made. But really Sony has been in the console business since 1995, you would figure that they would have tons of their own first party franchises instead just God of War and Gran TurismoNo, Sony has tons of great first party games. What killed them in the past had to do with heavily marketing SCEA games, while not marketing SCEI and SCEE games (or just not releasing them in the U.S.). God of War only did well in the U.S., due to poor marketing in other countries (since other countries mostly market their own games).

Gran Turismo series has outsold all MS franchises combined, if you've seen.

You must really not know Sony at all, because here's what they have (some are duplicates, because they were released in each country):
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/company/10631.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/company/13124.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/company/13123.html
And SCEE now has all of Psygnosis within them.

And these are all the 1 million + sales of games by Sony:
http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php?name=&console=&publisher=Sony&sort=Total

[Brian9824]

Wow really surpised to see Legend of Dragoon on that list. I love the game but didnt think it did that well.

[help1]

Wouldn't make a difference to me because I still wouldn't buy it. I find Gears of War to be the most overrated game all year, maybe even more so than the Wii currently.
You don't own a PS3; therefore, you cannot judge PSN.

Yes, I do NOT own one, because I have played it and walked away VERY unimpressed. Online network is STILL lacking.

[javeryh]

I love Gears of War. I was unimpressed at first and I actually played it the first week and then not again until about a month later - now I can't stop playing. I just finished Casual and Act 1 on Hardcore this week and I can't wait to play again tonight when I get home. In fact, I bought Lost Planet last Friday and played it for about 45 minutes so far because I can't get away from Gears.

To answer the question though I would NOT buy a PS3 if Gears was on it - the PS3 is completely defective in my eyes until they fix the HD scaling issue and I will NEVER buy one until that time.

[MadFlava]

You must really not know Sony at all, because here's what they have (some are duplicates, because they were released in each country):
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/company/10631.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/company/13124.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/company/13123.html
And SCEE now has all of Psygnosis within them.

And these are all the 1 million + sales of games by Sony:
http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php?name=&console=&publisher=Sony&sort=Total

Other than Gran Turismo and God of War, what does Sony have? Sly and Ratchet series? None of those have the draw of Zelda, Mario, and Metroid. And Microsoft's Halo is far more recognizable than anything Sony has to offer. Just look at how the media and people respond to anything Halo 3 related. Face it, Sony's first party software should be much better than it actually is. The Playstation brand has always had to rely on 3rd party games like GTA, Metal Gear Solid, and Resident Evil. Now the days of third party exclusives are done and many major titles like GTA and Resident Evil will be released on 360 and PS3 at the same time.

[Blitz]

Wouldn't make a difference to me because I still wouldn't buy it. I find Gears of War to be the most overrated game all year, maybe even more so than the Wii currently.
You don't own a PS3; therefore, you cannot judge PSN.

I'm pretty sure that if the PS3 had GOW you would be bragging about how great the game is.

[Duo_Maxwell]

Other than Gran Turismo and God of War, what does Sony have? Sly and Ratchet series? None of those have the draw of Zelda, Mario, and Metroid. And Microsoft's Halo is far more recognizable than anything Sony has to offer. Just look at how the media and people respond to anything Halo 3 related. Face it, Sony's first party software should be much better than it actually is. The Playstation brand has always had to rely on 3rd party games like GTA, Metal Gear Solid, and Resident Evil. Now the days of third party exclusives are done and many major titles like GTA and Resident Evil will be released on 360 and PS3 at the same time.

I've always considered Sony to take MS in the arena of 1st party exclusives. Halo isn't even a true first party game, they simply spent money buying out a studio. For that matter GoW isn't true first party either. The best game to come from the actual MS Game studios IMO was Forza which was essentially just a refined Gran Turismo. That said, yes they rely on third parties alot (perhaps too much now), but you when have the market share to draw in alot of 3rd party developers that's actually pretty good business plan. However, they need to either step up themselves or get a hot 3rd party title soon or that market share can dwindle, thus ruining said business plan.

[The Mana Knight]

I'm pretty sure that if the PS3 had GOW you would be bragging about how great the game is.No, and this is coming from someone who liked Halo.
Other than Gran Turismo and God of War, what does Sony have? Sly and Ratchet series? None of those have the draw of Zelda, Mario, and Metroid. And Microsoft's Halo is far more recognizable than anything Sony has to offer. Just look at how the media and people respond to anything Halo 3 related. Face it, Sony's first party software should be much better than it actually is. The Playstation brand has always had to rely on 3rd party games like GTA, Metal Gear Solid, and Resident Evil. Now the days of third party exclusives are done and many major titles like GTA and Resident Evil will be released on 360 and PS3 at the same time.Ratchet IS better than Zelda IMO, and every single MS franchise.

Also, other great franchises to me are (the whole reason I wanted a PS3 more than 360 and Wii was all because of Sony's first party games. If PS3 had no third party games, I'd still be very happy with it):
Jumping Flash!
Twisted Metal
Warhawk
Jet Moto
Colony Wars
Ratchet & Clank
Jak & Daxter
Sly Cooper
Ape Escape
ATV Offroad Fury
Gran Turismo
Primal
Ghosthunter
Formula One
Wipeout
PaRappa the Rapper
Hot Shots Golf
Tomba
MediEvil
Legaia
Wild Arms
Arc The Lad
Dark Cloud
Rogue Galaxy (or will be)
Intelligent Qube
XI GO
Syphon Filter
ICO/SotC
SingStar
PoPoLoCrois
Downhill Domination
Killzone
LocoRoco
God of War
Mister Mosquito
Alundra
Lemmings

and many more

[help1]

No, and this is coming from someone who liked Halo.
Ratchet IS better than Zelda IMO, and every single MS franchise.

Now your fanboy is not just showing, its oozing out all your pores. And it smells like shit.

[derder]

Now your fanboy is not just showing, its oozing out all your pores. And it smells like shit.

I don't like Zelda that much either. To me the gameplay seems so "old." Thats the only word I can think of right now to describe. It does have that nostalgic feel to the game, but when it comes to choosing an fun, immersive, rewarding experience, I'll play Oblivion over Zelda.

Oblivion is missing the fun puzzle elements that most people hold so dear, but God help us if someone makes a new game that combines Myst and Oblivion.

To the point, I don't think that its fair to compare zelda to ratchet because they're not the same type of game. He just has more fun with Ratchet.

[trq]

To the point, I don't think that its fair to compare zelda to ratchet because they're not the same type of game. He just has more fun with Ratchet.

Yeah, because he's the bastion of fucking objectivity in the rest of his posts.

[munch]

Methinks that maybe having God of War being a PS3 exclusive might pull some people in, too.

[scorpers]

I wouldn't spend $600 to buy a sytem to play any game!

[terribledeli]

Yeah, because he's the bastion of fucking objectivity in the rest of his posts.

You, sir, are by far my favorite poster.

I am shocked that people still take anything The Mana Knight says as anything other the desperate cries of a Sony fanboy. He's constantly made up facts in the past.

[Strell]

Methinks that maybe having God of War being a PS3 exclusive might pull some people in, too.

Thread fatality.

At least then it ends on a good note.

[jollydwarf]

I guess I'm one of the people that wasn't amazed by GoW...it was fun and I enjoyed it, but it wouldn't make me buy a system for it.

(And other posts expressing the same sentiment)

Look, I'm the first to call it Overrated Game of the Year (I see it as more of an 'EGM Silver Award-Winner' title), but the point here is not the ultimate quality, 'fun factor', or replayability of the game, but the amount of people that will be (err--were) drawn in by the hype.

This is a relatively harmless 'What If?' thread, and I don't really sense any hidden intent to start a flame skirmish here. I'll say this: every great exclusive beyond the first (Resistance) for the PS3 at launch would've had a 'multiplier effect', and not a simple cumulative one. In my mind, if Gears, as pitched everywhere by Microsoft and Epic, was a PS3 'Day One' release, it might have swung this last holiday season (and well into Q1 here) towards Sony. It certainly would've muddied the picture to what would appear to be a 'dead heat'. You can't tell anyone that the game didn't sell an assload of 360s...or at least push a lot of people off that proverbial fence. It's also the perfect game to ogle on your new HDTV.

EDIT: Ratchet IS better than Zelda IMO, and every single MS franchise.

Wow. Play the "Well, It's MY Opinion" card all you want, but you have to know how regrettable and cred-shredding that statement is. And this coming from someone who loves the Clankster.

[derder]

I would just like to add,:

I may have been the only person with a launch 360, who didn't hear all the hype, much less buy into it, for Gears of War.

I just remember watching the Donnie Darko trailer and being like, "Wow, where the hell did this game come from, and why am I not playing it now?"

I guess I just have a fetish for wartorn environments.

[The Mana Knight]

To the point, I don't think that its fair to compare zelda to ratchet because they're not the same type of game. He just has more fun with Ratchet.That's pretty much what I meant.

[dpatel]

Yes, I do NOT own one, because I have played it and walked away VERY unimpressed. Online network is STILL lacking.

From what I have seen, the actual online gameplay aspect is great for both consoles. The areas were Sony is lacking is the non-gaming features. So, even if GoW was on the PS3, it would still play just as well online.

[sp00ge]

I admit, I loved Gears, but it was too damned short. I beat it on all 3 difficulties in weeks (playing only a few hours a day). Deathmatch was awful.

I ended up trading it in with the EBGS bonus a few weeks back.

[help1]

We all got opinions, here are mine.


Jumping Flash! WTF is this
Twisted Metal This series blows nuts now, and I prefer mario kart anyway.
Warhawk Eh
Jet Moto Never a fan
Colony Wars never heard of it
Ratchet & Clank Pretty good
Jak & Daxter Eh.
Sly Cooper No.
Ape Escape Eh.
ATV Offroad Fury Eh-Eh-Eh.
Gran Turismo I hate racers, All of them.
Primal NO WAY! I bought this for a dolalr from TRU and felt jipped.
Ghosthunter Never heard of it
Formula One Racing game?
Wipeout eh.
PaRappa the Rapper Eh.
Hot Shots Golf Good GAme.
Tomba Not for me.
MediEvil Not for me.
Legaia Not for me.
Wild Arms Not for me.
Arc The Lad Not for me.
Dark Cloud Not for me.
Rogue Galaxy (or will be) or wont be.
Intelligent Qube Not for me.
XI GO Not for me.
Syphon Filter Hit or miss.
ICO/SotC Not for me.
SingStar Not for me.
PoPoLoCrois Never heard of it.
Downhill Domination Eh.
Killzone I was a beta tester, sold my ps2 a week later.
LocoRoco Not for me.
God of War Good.
Mister Mosquito Not for me.
Alundra Not for me.
Lemmings Not for me.


Where is SOCOM? Thats a GREAT game.

[Strell]

Do you know what happens when you call Legaia a good game?

Other people think you are full of shit.

And rightfully so.

Also, Arc the Lad and Alundra aren't first party. I'm pretty sure a few others on your list aren't either.

[daroga]

TMK, just how much money do you get from Sony a month to post these mind-numbing things? I hope it's a decent amount.

The OP is certainly an interesting alternate-reality question. I really think that it would've given the PS3 the boost it needed to still be in demand. However, on its own, I don't think GoW is potent enough to be a $5-600 system seller. For me it's not been a $400 system seller either, despite really wanting to play it more than I have.

I'm probably going to sound like a troll here myself, but I'll go for it. It was mentioned above the much of Sony's success came from 3rd party exclusives last gen. Katamari, FF, GH, GTA and the like (at least timed exclusives). I think the Xbox sold a lot on the fact that if a game was cross-platform, it was usually the best version of the 2 or 3 available (graphical high-end, possible online components). Yes, Halo is very cool, and Shadow of the Colossus was great as well, but games like Final Fantasy and Ninja Gaiden were the highlights on those systems. Nintendo has had the opposite problem, where there first party stuff shines over most 3rd and thus hurting 3rd party chances of doing well on their systems.

But, examining their histories, neither Sony nor Microsoft are really game companies. They got into the biz, sure, but of the 3 left, Nintendo is the only one who's been a game company from the word go. I have to think back to the Genesis / SNES days. THere were some gems in the 3rd party realm, but by-and-large, the highlights came from Sega and Nintendo respectively, both game companies.

Microsoft has been able to aquire some decently talented studios (Bungie, Rare) and thereby kinda buy their "history" as a game comapny. They've also gottent some 3rd party exclusive deals (Gears of War, etc., but for how long?). But Sony, if they're going to survive, have to step it up in terms of first party offerings. It's going to remain the only exclusive game on your system, because no one can afford to just sell their game on one system, nor do I think that Sony could afford to get companies to sign up for just their console.

Many of Sony's PS2 offerings were fun, but for me and a large portion of the gaming public I think, were not the reason to own the system. Some of the quirky stuff (Katamari, Guitar Hero) that came to the system were the reason to get it, and as long as you own it might as well give Ratchet and Jak games a try. That's not going to work this generation, so I hope Sony has something huge up their sleeves.

[Weedy649]

what if mario was on the 360, what if God of war was on the Wii. Pointless questions with a pointless end. This feels like gamefaqs

The same was once said about sonic appearing on the same system as mario. Can never say never.

[Brian9824]

[quote=Strell;2609721]Do you know what happens when you call Legaia a good game?

quote]

Hey I liked Legaia for PS1, granted I havent gotten around too playing the PS2 version so no idea on that.

[PanzerNinja]

GoW on PS3 at launch? I would have bought only if the PS3 was $399 or under.

[furyk]

If Gears was on the PS3, Sony fanboys would love it, MS fanboys would hate it. Gears is a flawed game pure and simple. All that would change is who would be pointing out the flaws.

[BattleChicken]

If Gears was on the PS3, Sony fanboys would love it, MS fanboys would hate it. Gears is a flawed game pure and simple. All that would change is who would be pointing out the flaws.
No game is flawless.

Even the greatest masterpiece is flawed. Mario 64, God of War, ANY Zelda game, Rachet and Clank -- all have their own issues.

I can see your core point, that if it was on another console people would hate or love it.. based on that -- but gears isn't some kind of piece of dung with pretty packaging, it's a good game, with some issues -- like every other good game.

[TimPV3]

PS3 online isnt as good as XBL, so it wouldn't be as much fun, sicne XBL is the only reason this thing is still alive.I see no advantage, Gears of War wise, to using XBL over PS3. What features are missing?

[icruise]

The actual in-game play would be almost identical, but I think people are talking more about the social aspects of Xbox Live (being able to see what games your friends are playing, see their gamercard, etc). I don't see why Sony couldn't implement something similar in the future though.

[Puzznic]

I think the PS3 needs a virtual mountain of AAA games to justify the price. Maybe even a mountain of AAA player's choice games since very few people are going to have enough money to buy the system and then the games they want at $60 a pop.

[icruise]

The 20GB PS3 is $499 -- $100 more than the Xbox Premium system with pretty much the same features (20GB hard disk, wired networking, wireless controller, etc), and yet the PS3 also has HDMI and a Bluray drive. Plus, it has free online multiplayer and a built-in battery in the controller -- both of which cost extra with the 360. Is that really a bad deal for an extra $100? That's less than the price of 2 games these days. I'm sick of people talking like the PS3 is so much more expensive than the 360. It's just not.

It's true that the 360's game library is WAY better than the PS3's, but that's to be expected given that the PS3 just launched.

[Strell]

There's no "deal" if you don't give a shit about the games.

That is why this comparison stuff based on "what you got for X price" never works out.

[Brak]

Gears of War, for me, isn't worth $700.

[icruise]

There's no "deal" if you don't give a shit about the games.

That is why this comparison stuff based on "what you got for X price" never works out.
My main point is that you're not forced to get the 60GB model, and all this talk about how the PS3 is overpriced compared to the 360 really doesn't wash if you look at what you get. Sure, many people have an idea which system has more of the kinds of games they like (Xbox 360 for many Western-made shooters and the like, PS3 for more Japanese-style things like RPGs) and they will get that system regardless. But for other people who just want to get one good system, I think either one is a fine choice, and they're both reasonably priced when you consider the technology that goes into them.

For me, the only game that's remotely worth the cost of a console by itself is World of Warcraft (which is of course not available on consoles, but in terms of "bang for your buck" it can't be beat). Oblivion comes close though.

[oasisboy]

what if mario was on the 360, what if God of war was on the Wii. Pointless questions with a pointless end. This feels like gamefaqs

Very true :applause:. I like good comments like this instead of the typical "shut up idiot".

[derder]

so... much... hatred...

I genuinely regret making this thread. I just was curious as to what people thought would happen in this alternate reality.

Mods may lock/delete at their own discretion

[Mechafenris]

Reminds me of the old C-64/Atari 800 or ST/Amiga threads of the dim past.

There's always someone who has undying loyalty to a particular system. When it deteriorates into "your mother" insults, then it looks like Gamfaqs. ;)

*Proud owner of an XBox360 and PS3* Best of both worlds, I'd say. :)

[RedvsBlue]

The 20GB PS3 is $499 -- $100 more than the Xbox Premium system with pretty much the same features (20GB hard disk, wired networking, wireless controller, etc), and yet the PS3 also has HDMI and a Bluray drive. Plus, it has free online multiplayer and a built-in battery in the controller -- both of which cost extra with the 360. Is that really a bad deal for an extra $100? That's less than the price of 2 games these days. I'm sick of people talking like the PS3 is so much more expensive than the 360. It's just not.

It's true that the 360's game library is WAY better than the PS3's, but that's to be expected given that the PS3 just launched.

There's obviously some reason why this thing is sitting on shelves not selling. If its not the price then what is it? If its the 360's bigger library then why was the 360 in short supply until the march/april after it's launch when it had a tiny library like the PS3?

[icruise]

I imagine it is indeed the price, combined with a dire lack of games. The point I am trying to make is that the price difference is not nearly as great as most people think. You can't say that the PS3 is $600 and the Xbox 360 is $400, because the 60GB PS3 includes things like wi-fi, which is a $99 extra on the 360. Bottom line is, if you don't need the extra features of the 60GB model, don't get it, and also don't forget that the $400 Xbox needs extra purchases to be brought up to the level the 60GB PS3.

This is mostly Sony's fault. They screwed up by making the high-end system $600, since everybody thinks that's the "real" price of the PS3 and that the 20GB must be for suckers like the Xbox Core system is. And in some regions they aren't even going to have a 20GB model. Sony should've tried harder to get closer to the Xbox 360's price point, just for psychological reasons.

I go into more detail about this issue in this blog post (http://icruise.wordpress.com/2007/01/14/is-the-ps3-really-overpriced/), so I'll cut it short here.

[anomynous]

Gears cant even run on the PS3, since the RAM on the PS3 isnt unified. Gears cant run on 256 MB. Epic has said this themselves. /thread

[icruise]

I think someone is missing the point...

[CounterSeal]

We all got opinions, here are mine.


Jumping Flash! WTF is this
Twisted Metal This series blows nuts now, and I prefer mario kart anyway.
Warhawk Eh
Jet Moto Never a fan
Colony Wars never heard of it
Ratchet & Clank Pretty good
Jak & Daxter Eh.
Sly Cooper No.
Ape Escape Eh.
ATV Offroad Fury Eh-Eh-Eh.
Gran Turismo I hate racers, All of them.
Primal NO WAY! I bought this for a dolalr from TRU and felt jipped.
Ghosthunter Never heard of it
Formula One Racing game?
Wipeout eh.
PaRappa the Rapper Eh.
Hot Shots Golf Good GAme.
Tomba Not for me.
MediEvil Not for me.
Legaia Not for me.
Wild Arms Not for me.
Arc The Lad Not for me.
Dark Cloud Not for me.
Rogue Galaxy (or will be) or wont be.
Intelligent Qube Not for me.
XI GO Not for me.
Syphon Filter Hit or miss.
ICO/SotC Not for me.
SingStar Not for me.
PoPoLoCrois Never heard of it.
Downhill Domination Eh.
Killzone I was a beta tester, sold my ps2 a week later.
LocoRoco Not for me.
God of War Good.
Mister Mosquito Not for me.
Alundra Not for me.
Lemmings Not for me.


Where is SOCOM? Thats a GREAT game.


You sir, has just lost all credibility. Your biased opinion is in the extreme minority, therefore it does not count towads this discussion. How can you dismiss Gran Turismo? How can you dismiss Dark Cloud and Rogue Galaxy? My God, you're horrible. In case you didn't know, Level-5 Studios is one of the best RPG makers in the industry. And until you've actually played Rogue Galaxy and Dark Cloud, don't go around spewing your bias.

[Duo_Maxwell]

Gears cant even run on the PS3, since the RAM on the PS3 isnt unified. Gears cant run on 256 MB. Epic has said this themselves. /thread

No, they actually said it couldn't run it in its current state. They never said they couldn't get the game work the PS3 at all, ever. I mean they'd probably have to rebuild almost the whole game and chances are nil you'll ever see it on the PS3. Plus even if is released chances are by then nobody will care at all. However Epic never said "There's no way it will run on PS3 ever" or "No, we can't release it on the PS3." Plus this is beside the point of this whole "what if scenario" really.

[dpatel]

Gears cant even run on the PS3, since the RAM on the PS3 isnt unified. Gears cant run on 256 MB. Epic has said this themselves. /thread

I can't believe someone actually believed that.

I guess the 360 can't handle Lair or Resistance or the Octocam in MGS4.

[The Mana Knight]

There's obviously some reason why this thing is sitting on shelves not selling. If its not the price then what is it? If its the 360's bigger library then why was the 360 in short supply until the march/april after it's launch when it had a tiny library like the PS3?The problem is, the 20GB models are selling, but there are more 60GBs being shipped to stores, which people don't seem to want as badly (PS3 is indeed selling, it's just that Sony ships quite a bit to retailers. I know its selling because I saw a ton at retailers not too long ago, and most all are gone). The ebay scalpers messed up the ratio by going for the 60GB, causing Sony to think there's a bigger demand for them, when in reality, it's really 50/50 split.

Gears of War, for me, isn't worth $700.It would be $600, if you included the game and tax (why buy a 60GB if you would only play Gears of War)?
You sir, has just lost all credibility. Your biased opinion is in the extreme minority, therefore it does not count towads this discussion. How can you dismiss Gran Turismo? How can you dismiss Dark Cloud and Rogue Galaxy? My God, you're horrible. In case you didn't know, Level-5 Studios is one of the best RPG makers in the industry. And until you've actually played Rogue Galaxy and Dark Cloud, don't go around spewing your bias.His comments sounded like a true Nintendo fanboy. Since he didn't recognize many of the issues, I can assure he knows nothing about SCE games.

[BattleChicken]

No, they actually said it couldn't run it in its current state. They never said they couldn't get the game work the PS3 at all, ever. I mean they'd probably have to rebuild almost the whole game and chances are nil you'll ever see it on the PS3. Plus even if is released chances are by then nobody will care at all. However Epic never said "There's no way it will run on PS3 ever" or "No, we can't release it on the PS3." Plus this is beside the point of this whole "what if scenario" really.

Fun fact -- The reason (or perhaps the 'straw'.. so to speak) that the Xbox 360 has 512 total ram rather than 256 is because Epic showed them what Gears would look like with 256 versus 512 of RAM, which seemed to justify the extra cost.

If the 360 had 256 MB of RAM, nobody could say that the PS3 and Xbox 360 could handle each other's ports... The same would be true if Sony spent the same money to trojan Blu Ray into the PS3 on a better RAM architecture and graphics solution.

Theoretically, if Gears was ported to PS3, they could dumb down the textures in order to work with the RAM architecture -- but that would never happen -- EVER. The only plausible reason I could see for Gears to go to PS3 is if MS purchased Sony.

[Duo_Maxwell]

Fun fact -- The reason (or perhaps the 'straw'.. so to speak) that the Xbox 360 has 512 total ram rather than 256 is because Epic showed them what Gears would look like with 256 versus 512 of RAM, which seemed to justify the extra cost.

If the 360 had 256 MB of RAM, nobody could say that the PS3 and Xbox 360 could handle each other's ports... The same would be true if Sony spent the same money to trojan Blu Ray into the PS3 on a better RAM architecture and graphics solution.

Theoretically, if Gears was ported to PS3, they could dumb down the textures in order to work with the RAM architecture -- but that would never happen -- EVER. The only plausible reason I could see for Gears to go to PS3 is if MS purchased Sony.

I was aware of your fun fact, but do note I never said it was going to the PS3. In fact I mentioned the opposite thought, but seeing as how we are dealing with a fun "what if" scenario here, I simply thought it should be noted that if Epic was under a multiplatform publisher like say Ubisoft, they could get the game running on the PS3 working around the RAM difference and probably do it pretty damn well too given their displayed talent. Anomynous's post seemed to indicate it would never be possible, which is not true, the game would simply have to be really reworked for the port (like a number ports currently are now anyhow).

I'm not too up to snuff on the contract between MS and Epic for Gears or the ownership of copyrights. So I won't pretend to entertain that notion, but Epic is working on the PS3 platform. That said here's another fun fact, (at the Gears launch party IIRC) an Epic employee noted that they actually had more programmers working on the PS3 platform at the moment after Gears and they already had a game engine designed and running for it.

[RedvsBlue]

I'm not too up to snuff on the contract between MS and Epic for Gears or the ownership of copyrights. So I won't pretend to entertain that notion, but Epic is working on the PS3 platform. That said here's another fun fact, (at the Gears launch party IIRC) an Epic employee noted that they actually had more programmers working on the PS3 platform at the moment after Gears and they already had a game engine designed and running for it.

Since everyone likes to throw around all these fun facts, I'd like to add one as well. Every developer has complained about how much of a bitch it is to develop for the PS3 so that's probably the likely reason why there's more programmers working on the PS3 platform...

[Duo_Maxwell]

Since everyone likes to throw around all these fun facts, I'd like to add one as well. Every developer has complained about how much of a bitch it is to develop for the PS3 so that's probably the likely reason why there's more programmers working on the PS3 platform...

Or it could be that their next game will be on that platform. I'm not here to argue a reason anyways, just reiterating what they said.

[zionoverfire]

It would suck, GoW without online play would be crap.

[Vinny]

I don't think GoW could run very well or look very good on the PS3... it looks as good as it does because of the 360's 512MB of V-ram allowing for higher resolution textures. The PS3 only has 256MB I think.

[whoknows]

It would suck, GoW without online play would be crap.
Why would it not have online play?

[icruise]

It would suck, GoW without online play would be crap.
Yeah, it would also suck without controllers or a TV, since we're bringing up unrelated issues.

[sarausagi]

If GoW was a PS3 exclusive, less people would be playing it right now.

That's like asking, "What if Final Fantasy VII was a Sega Saturn exclusive?"

Everything would be different today, but you can't go back and change anything, just take things for what they are.

[RedvsBlue]

"What if Final Fantasy VII was a Sega Saturn exclusive?"

Then no one would have played it?

[RAMSTORIA]

PS3 online isnt as good as XBL, so it wouldn't be as much fun, sicne XBL is the only reason this thing is still alive.

Still wouldn't buy the PS3 anyway, nor would I buy a 360 JUST for GOW.

as good as xbl is the matchmaking in gow is so shitty. i mean its lazy shitty. guess they had to get the game out before christmas.

[sarausagi]

Then no one would have played it?

Ouch, that was low! I would have played it!

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9626/saturn01bs0.jpg

Now that's what I'm talking about!

[RedvsBlue]

Ouch, that was low! I would have played it!

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9626/saturn01bs0.jpg

Now that's what I'm talking about!

Yeah yeah, I owned a Saturn too but not a whole lot of people did and I honestly don't think one game would have saved it.

[DarkNessBear]

Then Nintendo Fans would yell at PS3 owners because it isnt consider a console killer app if it is for the PS2 as well!

[RedvsBlue]

Then Nintendo Fans would yell at PS3 owners because it isnt consider a console killer app if it is for the PS2 as well!

God damn are you one cute helmet-wearin, short-bus ridin kid.

[ArLezbo]

i saw somewhere that the cell could access the DDRAM and use it as a VRAM, google it if you don't believe me

[strayfoxx]

Yeah I just got done with a 6 hour GoW bender, which will have a ravaging effect on my grad school back log of work...So now here I am in the grad office printing out a 30 page paper from a pretentious bastard in my class that I have to proofread, and all I want to do is go home and finish Act 5 and beat the game. And those damn Boomers suck, in a weird convuluted way, they also make me angry at Boomer Esiasion and his Alzheimer's riddled child.

[sonicdescent]

You don't own a PS3; therefore, you cannot judge PSN.

I do and he's right..PSN is like first generation xbl right now. That said, I don't think that is the problem..the problem is all public opinion. To that end, I think a title like GOW would be lost in the shuffle more than help anything. I see the tide starting to turn a little bit, but they need more than two or three world class exclusives, they need to cover the criticisms and start to work on how they are being perceived..arrogant and now wounded. The fact is that it is a wonderful system with a lot of good things going for it, and many more to come but the public (currently) sees a loser and a sinking ship that they would rather not let their money drown with. It's very early though folks, let's see whats going on a year from now.