Offical Heavenly Sword Thread (Current GStat av score = 8.0)

[Inf^Shini]

Yeah, he seemed like a fanboy by that question. I'll let you know how it is man, this is one game I am actually going to play and not just collect keep it sealed and move along lol. I plan on getting Warhawk but it probably wont be for awhile since there are tons of games coming out that I want more first. ;) Anyway I am off to call my girl and see if she wants to ride along, that might takes 20mins as it is, once you're on the phone with her it's like Bah GAWD MY EAR MY EAR IT FELL OFF. Lol but seriously your ears are really red since she likes to talk on the phone for hrs, and I just sit and play games and go Yep, uhhuh no, uh huh, you know I love you, OMG did you see that I shot his headoff *click* Wtf? Awesome!

:rofl:

True story.....

Hahahaha :rofl:

I like the ending to that story "*click* Wtf? Awesome!"

[The Mana Knight]

Like...OMG! She has noooo clue what you were saaayiiiiinnngg x_X

I hate it when the person I have to talk to is that kind of employee, it's even worse when it's in person (since you can hang up on em' on the phone :D )

Reminds me of a girl in my speech class who kepy saying "Pretty Much" after pretty much all of her sentences....pretty much. You get the idea :twoguns:That's what I absolutely hate calling stores and won't do it if I don't have to. But then again, I hate using the telephone. :P

Yeah I feel you man, that would annoy the fuck out of me too. I called Game stop and of course they have it in but FUCK do I hate to make a 45min drive on my day off from work for a change. It's the furthest of all my "gaming stores" which none of them have it in yet for some fucking reason. Wal-mart, Best buy, Game crazy, Target none. Ugh This game better blow me away or I am going to be pissed I wasted my time and gas, and dealing with crowds of people and damn game stop employees. Haha also what was funny when I asked the dude if it was in he said we have so and so copies in and then he said "You do know this is for PS3 right"? I was like Uhh yeah buddy lol. :roll:Lol. Luckily, I live within a short walk of Gamestop, but I honestly hate the employees there (after singing that PS3 song, I never wanted to go back).
Yeah, he seemed like a fanboy by that question. I'll let you know how it is man, this is one game I am actually going to play and not just collect keep it sealed and move along lol. I plan on getting Warhawk but it probably wont be for awhile since there are tons of games coming out that I want more first. ;) Anyway I am off to call my girl and see if she wants to ride along, that might takes 20mins as it is, once you're on the phone with her it's like Bah GAWD MY EAR MY EAR IT FELL OFF. Lol but seriously your ears are really red since she likes to talk on the phone for hrs, and I just sit and play games and go Yep, uhhuh no, uh huh, you know I love you, OMG did you see that I shot his headoff *click* Wtf? Awesome!

:rofl:

True story.....I'm looking to play Heavenly Sword myself to play it, but I still got a crapload of games to play. :(

You have a girl??? Lucky you. :( :(

The game is 10th on my wishlist overall, but I might bump it up. I'm having a hard time because I can either buy X amount of games or a new PSP and less games.

[Rei no Otaku]

I like playing twing twang...

[dallow]

Damn, I want some twing twang too.

[seanr1221]

Picking this up tomorrow, but I wont get to play it till Sunday.

[Dark Slayer120]

That's what I absolutely hate calling stores and won't do it if I don't have to. But then again, I hate using the telephone. :P



Lol. Luckily, I live within a short walk of Gamestop, but I honestly hate the employees there (after singing that PS3 song, I never wanted to go back).
I'm looking to play Heavenly Sword myself to play it, but I still got a crapload of games to play. :(

You have a girl??? Lucky you. :( :(

The game is 10th on my wishlist overall, but I might bump it up. I'm having a hard time because I can either buy X amount of games or a new PSP and less games.
I do too but I'd rather make a call then waste gas you know? Lol yeah I have a girl but she hates that I game. She said it's a waste of time, and then I reply well so is shopping and walking around all day in the mall but you do that.

Hahahaha :rofl:

I like the ending to that story "*click* Wtf? Awesome!"


Lol yeah thats true too, she hung up I said Wtf? Then I was like Awesome because of his head being shot off lol.

[whoknows]

I was just at Best Buy about to buy this when one of the employees changed my mind.

He told me it's only 5-6 hours and while those 5-6 hours are good I should rent it.

I already knew about it being short, but I was surprised he told me that. Guess there are good BB employees out there.

[Rei no Otaku]

I'm really enjoying this game. I don't care if it is short, i'm having a good time.

Also lmao@Sony poking fun of themselves:

Kai: Password!
Soldier: Get lost!
Kai: *points crossbow at guy's crotch* Maybe I should hit your weak point for massive damage.

[Lost_In_Shadows]

I rented it today. I hated some of the part's you have to use the tilting of the six axis. Or whatever it is called. I found out where you can change that,which made me very happy. Overall pretty good game so far. Im only starting chapter 3.

[Rei no Otaku]

Yeah, I didn't like the sixaxis control either. But as I mentioned, I suck at motion controls in general. I turned those off immediately. I did keep the air juggle one on though. That one is easy to use.

[reiji]

Rented it from Blockbuster earlier today. I'm at the point the Rei just mentioned, and I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

And why do people keep saying that there's no replay value?? I plan on going back and trying to get all of the tokens for each level once I'm done. And I heard there's "Hell" mode also. I could see myself playing through the whole game at least twice.

[Thomas96]

Rented it from Blockbuster earlier today. I'm at the point the Rei just mentioned, and I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

And why do people keep saying that there's no replay value?? I plan on going back and trying to get all of the tokens for each level once I'm done. And I heard there's "Hell" mode also. I could see myself playing through the whole game at least twice.



the game has a little replay value, I mean its nice to go back and play some scenes over, just because they were nice scenes. This game is short... I'm about one level away from completing it... so I'm going to finish it off tomorrow. I havent seen a game this short since Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers(nes) first game I beat in one day. I could have beaten this in a day, but I purposely took it slow.

[Inf^Shini]

the game has a little replay value, I mean its nice to go back and play some scenes over, just because they were nice scenes. This game is short... I'm about one level away from completing it... so I'm going to finish it off tomorrow. I havent seen a game this short since Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers(nes) first game I beat in one day. I could have beaten this in a day, but I purposely took it slow.

I have taken a lot of games slow, and thus I have not completed any of them to this day :lol:

[NamPaehc]

I have taken a lot of games slow, and thus I have not completed any of them to this day :lol:

I got FFX the day it came out and I'm still not done... :)

[FriskyTanuki]

Bought this today since Gamefly's lagging on sending this to me, so I plan to sell it on eBay when I'm done. I loved the second Kai sniping level (where you're keeping enemies off of Shen) and the surrounding boss fight got better once I figured out how it worked.

[Dark Slayer120]

My impressions from the other thread:

I got to say I have finished the first two chapters thus far and I am really really enjoying it. This game has been the first game I have liked the motion controls especially with Kai. I mean controlling her arrows when Semi spoilers?Protecting Nariko's father was so sweet. I mean here he is hobbling across the bridge and you have all the guards rushing to hit him, and just one hit kills him and you have to restart over. I was taking care of the guards rushing at him from the front I didn't notice once he got about in the middle of the bridge, the guards coming from behind to kill him. Once I saw them I instantly shot and slowed the arrow down and started tilting and lining the arrow up. The guard got closer and closer to Nariko's dad the guard turned blue to hit him and *BAM* I just got the arrow right into his chest. I know it doesn't sound that great but wow adrenaline was running through me then and the awesome music at the same time wow. You really need to experience yourself to get what I felt.

Also using the motion controls at one point to attack the catapults with your own cannon/catapult was fun. You also have to use motion controls to hit switches with shields, and it is a blast. I have hated motion controls up until this game because I could never get used to them. You can turn these off in the options but honestly why would you want to? Just take the 15 or so minutes to learn the controls and you wont regret it. The game play is a blast it's like GOW but better IMO, as it's deeper then GOW as well. You learn more and more combos as you progress through out the game. The aerial ones are by far my favorite in the entire game. You also can unlock certain amount of tokens for each part/chapter. I don't know why it says no replay value because once I go beat it I am going to go through it again and try to get all the tokens for each part/chapter. Anyway I say if you like action games, please pick this title up. Unless you're short on cash then I say wait for a price drop, but at least get it when the price drops or rent it. Easily best action game for PS3, although I know that isn't saying much.

[Inf^Shini]

I got FFX the day it came out and I'm still not done... :)

Haha, I got Xenosaga and Wild Arms 3 about a month after they came out, but I haven't finished it to this day, yet I managed to Final Fantasy VIII multiple times in about two weeks XD.

I guess a game of this length will suit me just fine.

Ahh, btw, how is the plot story of the game? Is it pretty interesting as well as how it ends? No spoilers, just opinions :D

[Dark Slayer120]

the game has a little replay value, I mean its nice to go back and play some scenes over, just because they were nice scenes. This game is short... I'm about one level away from completing it... so I'm going to finish it off tomorrow. I havent seen a game this short since Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers(nes) first game I beat in one day. I could have beaten this in a day, but I purposely took it slow.
My solution to this is to only do 2 or so chapters a night. This way at least I get more then one day in.


Ahh, btw, how is the plot story of the game? Is it pretty interesting as well as how it ends? No spoilers, just opinions :D

I really like the story thus far, so far everything is fitting together nicely.

[Thomas96]

I love the story, I love the game. This is like a 30 minute pilot episode... and I can't wait for the full feature film. All the scenes skip or have some stutter, when they're accessed while in game, however, they run fine when going back to the movie clips section to watch them.

[jling84]

I love the story, I love the game. This is like a 30 minute pilot episode... and I can't wait for the full feature film. All the scenes skip or have some stutter, when they're accessed while in game, however, they run fine when going back to the movie clips section to watch them.

Yeah is everyone pretty much getting some BAD stuttering and extremely low framerates on some movies and especially stage 3 (the level where you use Kai a lot)? For some reason I've noticed that the boss fights are pretty good about keeping the fps steady, but when I was showing HS off to my friends today, the framerate was so choppy that it was quite embarrassing. All that aside, I love the story and the gameplay so far.

[The Mana Knight]

I have taken a lot of games slow, and thus I have not completed any of them to this day :lol:Yeah, I do the same. My backlog is over 200 games because of that.

I got FFX the day it came out and I'm still not done... :)I did that to FFXII.

[Inf^Shini]

Yeah, I do the same. My backlog is over 200 games because of that.

I did that to FFXII.
Heh, I did that to FFIX! I'm still near the beginning! I think the only games I have ever completed 100% were Metroid: Zero Mission and Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped :-k

[NamPaehc]

*Spoilers!* Mycheats walkthrough. (http://www.mycheats.com/view/superguide/6964/heavenly_sword/ps3)

[Inf^Shini]

*Spoilers!* Mycheats walkthrough. (http://www.mycheats.com/view/superguide/6964/heavenly_sword/ps3)

How dare you tempt me! :bomb:

[KongRudi]

I'm not a super action-gamer..
This game however, is fantastic...
By far the best action-adventure game this generation. If If you have a PS3 and you are on the fence you should avoid all spoilers, and get it. :)

Played it non-stop yesterday around more than 10 hours..
I love the aftertouch in this game, Kai's missions are coolest in my opinion.


Even tough I tought Kai were crap after allmost all the people escaped the first time, I played as Kai; before having to clean them out with Nariko afterwards. :)
It picked up when i figured out the technique.

The cinema when Kai got the password to the armory were legendary.
Worth the money alone.


Am in chapter 4 at the moment..

I think this is the moment were it's get impossible to progress onwards if you are button-mashing.

Major Spoiler alert, do not read if you havn't played it.


Am struggling on 'To kill a fox' now..
I spent 3 hours on that boss alone yesterday, and didn't manage progressing past him.

Also tried another 2 hours today, along with a friend wich visited and saw the game.

Before I decided to log on the net, and search for a strategy-guide, to figure out what kind of combo I should use on him, and came over the one linked earlier on the page, will try those tactics later, when my fingers get better.


I really like the level-selector in Purgatory, it were awesome.
Due to this my friend got to try different parts of the games, even tough I were stuck on the boss in my game-session.
This is just genious, all games should have something like this, it's great to take a break and do other missions over again when you feel you have trouble in certain parts. :)

It's a must-have showcase-game for the system, and definately the best game for entry in the action-adventure genre. :)

I highly recommend it to everyone. :)

[Halo05]

I'm not a super action-gamer..
This game however, is fantastic...
By far the best action-adventure game this generation. If If you have a PS3 and you are on the fence you should avoid all spoilers, and get it. :)


Better than Ninja Gaiden Sigma? That's a mighty claim you make.

[whoknows]

Better than Ninja Gaiden Sigma? That's a mighty claim you make.
I've only played the HS demo and I'm going to say it's better than Sigma for the sole reason that there are no loading times while you are fighting.

That made me sell Sigma without even beating it.

[shipwreck]

Played it non-stop yesterday around more than 10 hours..


So you beat it twice? I've played for 4.5 hours and I'm already at the end of Chapter 4 and that's including at least 3 or 4 tries at the boss at the end of that level already.

And I'm generally on the slow side for beating games.

[Inf^Shini]

So you beat it twice? I've played for 4.5 hours and I'm already at the end of Chapter 4 and that's including at least 3 or 4 tries at the boss at the end of that level already.

And I'm generally on the slow side for beating games.

I'm guessing he passed a couple chapters and just went back to replay them before completing the game :-k

[Psykodelik]

Heh, I did that to FFIX! I'm still near the beginning! I think the only games I have ever completed 100% were Metroid: Zero Missin and Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped :-k

Haha I think I only have about 2.5hrs total put in ff:xii. This game on the other hand, I'm about to start up ch.4 and HOPEFULLY stop there so I can play it again tomorrow. :D

I love Kai. You can tell the designers for this char really had fun making her.

[Lost_In_Shadows]

Said it was around 6 hour's to beat correct? It took me about 7 hour's, and 30 min's. Pretty good game overall. It is worth renting :D

[Psykodelik]

Got this from joeblow in the avsforums.

In short, they would like to do a downloadable content type thing to make the game "longer". But ONLY if the game sells well. There's no mention if it'll be free or fee.

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/09/14/heavenly-sword-downloadable-content-coming-if-it-sells-well/

[Rei no Otaku]

I have no doubt it will sell well. I mean lets be honest, what else are PS3 owners really going to buy? Best game on the PS3 so far, IMO (not counting Ninja Gaiden due to it being out on the Xbox already).

[shipwreck]

I have no doubt it will sell well. I mean lets be honest, what else are PS3 owners really going to buy? Best game on the PS3 so far, IMO (not counting Ninja Gaiden due to it being out on the Xbox already).

I would agree with that as well (if we are talking about exclusives). With as short as this game is though, there are going to be a lot of used copies pretty quickly.

[FriskyTanuki]

Just finished the game and I loved it. I do wish there were more, but I could tell that the whole game's structure was more like a movie, so it being short isn't too surprising. It was nicely paced when it switched between Nariko's and Kai's levels around the whole Roach boss fight. I found her sniper levels were easier to control with the Sixaxis than the cannon levels. I loved how the cutscenes at the end of each chapter were of Nariko remarking on what she just saw like it was the Ghost of Christmas Past (though really the Heavenly Sword showing it to her) that was showing her these horrible events (Kai being chased by the Flying Fox) and Kai's near-death experience. The music was great, especially during the more emotional scenes/levels that drew me in. Were the shadows in the cutscenes a little blocky for anyone else? That was something I noticed in every cutscene and I'm wondering if it was just my display or not.

I do wonder how they'd go about doing a sequel since Nariko dies. I imagine that it could just follow some of the others that have fought for the sword that are depicted in the animated shorts, though I wouldn't be surprised if it took the God of War II route and was a prequel.

[Inf^Shini]

^^

I didn't want to read the spoilers but I hit quote and caught a part of the ending :bomb:

I'm guessing they might do a prequel then a sequel :o

We got a couple examples of that: MGS series and DMC Series (Although they did the opposite)

Seeing as how they made a five-part anime, I'll take a stab at it and say they make that Heavenly Sword 2

Gah! I gotta play this >.>''

[Dark Slayer120]

Better than Ninja Gaiden Sigma? That's a mighty claim you make.
Umm yeah HS is better then NGS. Now NGB, no HS doesn't compare but NGS yes. Why you my ask? Well I don't have to worry about slash slash 3-4 second load slash... :roll: The only reason I still kept NGS is because I bought the collectors edition and it's semi rare, and the collector in me can't let it go.

[Corvin]

Said it was around 6 hour's to beat correct? It took me about 7 hour's, and 30 min's. Pretty good game overall. It is worth renting :D

6.5 is the number I have seen everywhere.

I'm exactly at the halfway point and put in 3.5 thus far. I might be on course for 7.5. Which is still pretty short.

I love the game though. Love the characters, love the animation and voice work. I even really like the Sixaxis controls. Looking forward to finishing it.

[shipwreck]

Took me exactly 6 hours and, like I said, that was with an extra half hour or so retrying one boss that gave me a little trouble. That's 6 hours of real-world time too, so that's including cut-scenes, loading screens, and gameplay.

[ighosty]

got it from gamefly yesterday, will probably give it some play today and finish it sometime during the week. I'm looking forward to it.

[Thomas96]

This game is short due to Ninja Theory having difficulties with the PS3 Hardware. Sony needs to help these devs, come out with more tools to make PS3 development easier, and more efficient. HS is a launch title, its short just like a launch title. If they could have added more stages, they could have did like Darkness and add some weird stages, like when you're in the mind of the darkness. HS is basically like Streets of Rage... SOR was short, [by todays standards] but it was well executed.


The game is definitely not Repetitive... They threw in some good action sequences to break up the monotony of sword fighting. I'll probably beat it tonight, or on tuesday... I hope they did some work on HS 2.


In the future I'd like to see a cross up game with Kratos and Nariko.. like Battletoads and Doubledragon; thats what we all want, just no one's saying it.

[Thomas96]

anyone test to see if this can be played on psp?

[orko60]

This game is short due to Ninja Theory having difficulties with the PS3 Hardware. Sony needs to help these devs, come out with more tools to make PS3 development easier, and more efficient. HS is a launch title, its short just like a launch title. If they could have added more stages, they could have did like Darkness and add some weird stages, like when you're in the mind of the darkness. HS is basically like Streets of Rage... SOR was short, [by todays standards] but it was well executed.




What does the length of the game have to do with having trouble with the hardware? It just takes an astoundingly long amount of time to create the environments in this game, along with the motion-captured cutscenes, that creating a game much longer than this was probably not possible in their timeframe. According to the documentaries that ship with the game, they started working on it before they even knew what the PS3 was going to be.

Expect most games to get shorter and shorter, unfortunately. It's just costing too much to keep up with graphical expectations.

[Dark Slayer120]

The funny thing is, this game started off as an Xbox game....

[xeno]

got it from gamefly yesterday, will probably give it some play today and finish it sometime during the week. I'm looking forward to it.
got it from gamefly last night also great game but im only at the part where you free the prisoners and you found out that that big thing is bahn's son

[ighosty]

^^

I didn't want to read the spoilers but I hit quote and caught a part of the ending :bomb:

I'm guessing they might do a prequel then a sequel :o

We got a couple examples of that: MGS series and DMC Series (Although they did the opposite)

Seeing as how they made a five-part anime, I'll take a stab at it and say they make that Heavenly Sword 2

Gah! I gotta play this >.>''

after reading that i did the same exact thing lol, but once i saw the spoiler things gone i just exited out so i didn't read anything. I was just going to say I have only playin about an hour and a little into it but it does play out a lot like a movie, which i really like.

[dallow]

Took me exactly 6 hours and, like I said, that was with an extra half hour or so retrying one boss that gave me a little trouble. That's 6 hours of real-world time too, so that's including cut-scenes, loading screens, and gameplay.Did you like it?

[mykevermin]

I have no doubt it will sell well. I mean lets be honest, what else are PS3 owners really going to buy? Best game on the PS3 so far, IMO (not counting Ninja Gaiden due to it being out on the Xbox already).

In this regard, it's smart to put out Lair and Heavenly Sword first - the fall is going to be rather nice for PS3 owners, with Folklore, Eye of Judgment, R&C, and Uncharted coming out (in addition to all the multi-platform games) - it's best, I suppose, to get the not-as-stellar stuff out of the way first, so that it can actually sell.

Of course, I also hope that it means I can find Lair for $30 by November. I'm willing to give it a try at that price.

[KwanzaaTimmy]

I gave HS a rental two days ago. I have already beaten it, and I must say, that while it was short-- it was a great experience. I'm probably along the lines of Shipwreck's time--It basically took me two nights after work to get through it.

I'm glad I played it, for sure, but also glad I just rented it-- 60 dollars for that amount of time is just a wee bit much in my opinion. Production value is stellar-- and they did jam quite a bit into the time you're actually in the game world.

Glad to see we're starting to ramp up for the fall on the Playstation side of things.

[Inf^Shini]

In this regard, it's smart to put out Lair and Heavenly Sword first - the fall is going to be rather nice for PS3 owners, with Folklore, Eye of Judgment, R&C, and Uncharted coming out (in addition to all the multi-platform games) - it's best, I suppose, to get the not-as-stellar stuff out of the way first, so that it can actually sell.

Of course, I also hope that it means I can find Lair for $30 by November. I'm willing to give it a try at that price.
Same here, I'll give Lair a shot at that price, although I kinda doubt we'd see Lair go that low in a sale so early on, unless....*Thinks of Sonic for PS3* :-k

I have never really played the Ratchet & Clank series, but since it's comin' to the PS3 and looks very entertaining, plus everyone's all excited about it, I'll give it a shot. I loved Crash Bandicoot and Jak n' Daxter, so I guess this'll be right up my alley ;)

Still, despite the short length of Heavenly Sword, I'm still anxious to play it :drool:
BTW, how is the soundtrack of Heavenly Sword? In the main menu of the demo, I kept moving the cursor just to listen to the song that played, do they keep that same song in the actual game?

[apokalipze2]

Great game. Everything about it just so good. It's sucks though that it's really short :(

[seanr1221]

Really fun game so far. As weird as it sounds, I'm kinda happy it's 6-7 hours. Since school's started, I've only put about 2-3 hours into BioShock and Metroid, so maybe I'll actually finish this.

[cdeener]

I need help with a part of the game in the mission called "Prison" I beat up the guards but can't figure out in which order I need to hit the gongs to open up the gates?

[Thomas96]

What does the length of the game have to do with having trouble with the hardware? It just takes an astoundingly long amount of time to create the environments in this game, along with the motion-captured cutscenes, that creating a game much longer than this was probably not possible in their timeframe. According to the documentaries that ship with the game, they started working on it before they even knew what the PS3 was going to be.

Expect most games to get shorter and shorter, unfortunately. It's just costing too much to keep up with graphical expectations.

what I mean is what takes maybe a week to develop normally (e.g. background) on other consoles probably takes 2-3 weeks on PS3.
That's why I feel that devs need tools to help them work more efficiently, and be able to work quickly and efficiently. Ninja Theory had plenty of time to make this game twice as long, however, sony is party to blame for getting the real PS3 specs to them late, and the fact that initially there wasn't much to help. The hardware is fine, the trouble lies in the devs utilization of the hardware.

[Mindzeye82]

I'm playing through the game (on chapter 3) and I really dislike the game. The fighting has become really redundant. All the enemies block and so instead of using the all the nifty combo's at my disposal, I keep using the same block breaking combo over and over.

The "missions" are extremely short so far and its very annoying to go through 10 minutes of cut scene, fight one battle in which I obtain two glyphs, and then have a new "mission" begin.

Lastly, my biggest gripe is with the sniper missions with Kai. I think the aftertouch idea is cool, but its just so frustrating. The aiming wihtout aftertouch is highly inaccurate and does minimal damage. The aiming with aftertouch is really difficult to control and it has taken me far too many tries to get through each section. Also, aftertouch makes any shot a 1 hit kill. Why is that? I've hit enemies in the head without an aftertouch shot and had them shake it off, but scraped the ankles of others with aftertouch to have them crumple to the ground!

The animations are awesome and the cutscenes (although a little too plentiful) are really amazing. They are the only thing keeping me in this game. The story is interesting thus far and makes the game worth playing through once. I do like the quicktime events, but I find myself missing the really cool final parts of each boss fight because I'm focusing so heavily on what button to press next. I wish there was a way to watch the sequence a second time, without having to press any buttons so I could actually see what happened.

I hope it improves as the game goes on, esepcially since I'm 1/3 of the way (and 1 hour) in.

[xeno]

I need help with a part of the game in the mission called "Prison" I beat up the guards but can't figure out in which order I need to hit the gongs to open up the gates?
just hit the gong that is across from you

[The Mana Knight]

Really fun game so far. As weird as it sounds, I'm kinda happy it's 6-7 hours. Since school's started, I've only put about 2-3 hours into BioShock and Metroid, so maybe I'll actually finish this.I agree about being short. With the time school keeps me busy, I welcome shorter games.
what I mean is what takes maybe a week to develop normally (e.g. background) on other consoles probably takes 2-3 weeks on PS3.
That's why I feel that devs need tools to help them work more efficiently, and be able to work quickly and efficiently. Ninja Theory had plenty of time to make this game twice as long, however, sony is party to blame for getting the real PS3 specs to them late, and the fact that initially there wasn't much to help. The hardware is fine, the trouble lies in the devs utilization of the hardware.It's not just that, the PS3 is relatively new hardware and developers are still learning how to use it. If you remember last gen, many early PS2 games were quite short, like Devil May Cry (Could be beaten in 6 hours), Zone of the Enders (Could be beaten in under 5 hours), ICO (took 5 hours), Onimusha (took 4 hours), and so on. Short games early in a consoles lifecycle is normal (ones that weren't ported). As time goes on by, the games will get longer.

However, I don't want a developer to extend a length to a game just to make people happy, like how Castlevania: Curse of Darkness came out (I'm a big Castlevania fan, but the levels were WAY too drawn out, long, and boring).

[Rei no Otaku]

Just finished it. I enjoyed the whole time I played it. The only time I got a bit frustrated was that boss battle against The Fox.

As for the ending: Was surprised to see Nariko die since most games find some way for the character to get out of that.

[NamPaehc]

I don't know if I've said this or not, but if this is a First Generation game for the PS3 then we are really in for some great stuff!

[mykevermin]

I'm really digging it so far - it's a comfortable level of difficult, where it isn't as brutally unforgiving to button mashers as Ninja Gaiden, and it isn't as button masher friendly as God of War.

The voice acting on the characters is good, particularly Bohan.

I don't know how short it is, since I play only 4-6 hours per week, if I'm lucky. Not every game I buy can be 40+. Of course, if the consensus is that it's short, then it's short, but not incredibly so, right?

the variety of gameplay is good - I had a blast with the cannonball stage (chapter 1), and I'm not someone who like the sixaxis all that much (especially when we're forced to use it).

It sets high standards for games to follow in a number of places (the lip synching is incredible, as are the facial animations), while it isn't perfect in a number of others.

If nothing else, it adds to more and more evidence that anyone who makes the foolish claim "the PS3 has no games!" is someone who isn't trying or simply doesn't want the PS3 to have good games more than anything else.

[Thomas96]

I agree about being short. With the time school keeps me busy, I welcome shorter games.
It's not just that, the PS3 is relatively new hardware and developers are still learning how to use it. If you remember last gen, many early PS2 games were quite short, like Devil May Cry (Could be beaten in 6 hours), Zone of the Enders (Could be beaten in under 5 hours), ICO (took 5 hours), Onimusha (took 4 hours), and so on. Short games early in a consoles lifecycle is normal (ones that weren't ported). As time goes on by, the games will get longer.

However, I don't want a developer to extend a length to a game just to make people happy, like how Castlevania: Curse of Darkness came out (I'm a big Castlevania fan, but the levels were WAY too drawn out, long, and boring).


yeah, that's why I'm glad they didn't throw in any 'go get the key puzzles' or force people to have to retrace past through past levels. All that retracing steps and 'go get key' is what takes up a lot of time in games. I'm glad this is straight action. One thing, though, this is the blueprint for a next gen beat em up. I keep thinking about a semi 3d streets of rage, still 2d but 3d, the best example would be the level when she's on the bridge walking across. This game with hundred of solders on screen, this is what I want to see from a Golden axe game, or conan. But anyway this game is short that's why I consider a launch title, and that's why I say the PS3 is still launching.. [i.e Bouncer - I wouldn't mind seeing another bouncer game from square, nothing was wrong w/ that tobal no. 1 engine]

[Thomas96]

I'm really digging it so far - it's a comfortable level of difficult, where it isn't as brutally unforgiving to button mashers as Ninja Gaiden, and it isn't as button masher friendly as God of War.

The voice acting on the characters is good, particularly Bohan.

I don't know how short it is, since I play only 4-6 hours per week, if I'm lucky. Not every game I buy can be 40+. Of course, if the consensus is that it's short, then it's short, but not incredibly so, right?

the variety of gameplay is good - I had a blast with the cannonball stage (chapter 1), and I'm not someone who like the sixaxis all that much (especially when we're forced to use it).

It sets high standards for games to follow in a number of places (the lip synching is incredible, as are the facial animations), while it isn't perfect in a number of others.

If nothing else, it adds to more and more evidence that anyone who makes the foolish claim "the PS3 has no games!" is someone who isn't trying or simply doesn't want the PS3 to have good games more than anything else.


same foolish person who said the PSP doesn't have games.

[Inf^Shini]

yeah, that's why I'm glad they didn't throw in any 'go get the key puzzles' or force people to have to retrace past through past levels. All that retracing steps and 'go get key' is what takes up a lot of time in games. I'm glad this is straight action. One thing, though, this is the blueprint for a next gen beat em up. I keep thinking about a semi 3d streets of rage, still 2d but 3d, the best example would be the level when she's on the bridge walking across. This game with hundred of solders on screen, this is what I want to see from a Golden axe game, or conan. But anyway this game is short that's why I consider a launch title, and that's why I say the PS3 is still launching.. [i.e Bouncer - I wouldn't mind seeing another bouncer game from square, nothing was wrong w/ that tobal no. 1 engine]

Dude, The Bouncer was really fun IMO. If it really is reminiscent of Streets Of Rage, then that makes me want to play it even more ^^b!

SOR2, despite being able to pass it pretty quickly, was so fun to just beat up people that it has never gotten old for me :mrgreen:
If this game falls into the same category, I'll probably be coming back to this game over and over again.

[Rei no Otaku]

the variety of gameplay is good - I had a blast with the cannonball stage (chapter 1), and I'm not someone who like the sixaxis all that much (especially when we're forced to use it).

If you liked that wait until you get to the Kai levels. I had a blast with those.

[Corvin]

Lastly, my biggest gripe is with the sniper missions with Kai. I think the aftertouch idea is cool, but its just so frustrating. The aiming wihtout aftertouch is highly inaccurate and does minimal damage. The aiming with aftertouch is really difficult to control and it has taken me far too many tries to get through each section. A

I've had zero issues with motion control. I actually enjoy those levels as much and sometimes more than the Nariko levels. The sword fighting gets redundant, but I could do Kai's "motion" levels all day. I haven't had to replay any of them either. The motion in HS is very well implemented. Nothing like launching an enemy through the air in slo-mo into his comrades.

I didn't have many issues with Lair either.

[Thomas96]

I've had zero issues with motion control. I actually enjoy those levels as much and sometimes more than the Nariko levels. The sword fighting gets redundant, but I could do Kai's "motion" levels all day. I haven't had to replay any of them either. The motion in HS is very well implemented. Nothing like launching an enemy through the air in slo-mo into his comrades.

I didn't have many issues with Lair either.


I'm using this game to train me for lair... if these motion controls were a type of roadside sobriety test, cops would be throwing me in jail, day in and day out.

[Psykodelik]

If you liked that wait until you get to the Kai levels. I had a blast with those.


CH 2, 2nd to last mission FTW! :D

[-Never4ever-]

Played about an hour and yes it's essentially a GoW clone, and yes it might be short as hell, but I'm digging the game so far.

Absolutely hate the after touch controls, but thankfully you can just turn them off. Still wish the brains behind Lair thought up that idea, might've saved them.

[Inf^Shini]

I wouldn't claim it to be a god of war clone seeing as it was originally in development two years before GOW was released

[Dark Slayer120]

I wouldn't claim it to be a god of war clone seeing as it was originally in development two years before GOW was released

Yeah, and it's better as well.

[dallow]

Damn guys, you're having too much fun.
I gotta pick this up!!!

[Dark Slayer120]

Damn guys, you're having too much fun.
I gotta pick this up!!!
You really should man, IMO it's a PS3 must have.

[dallow]

http://ps3.qj.net/God-of-War-cameo-in-Heavenly-Sword-Kratos-is-that-you-/pg/49/aid/102550

[Dark Slayer120]

http://ps3.qj.net/God-of-War-cameo-in-Heavenly-Sword-Kratos-is-that-you-/pg/49/aid/102550

Ha ha thats cool as fuck.

[Corvin]

Just finished it. I enjoyed the whole time I played it. The only time I got a bit frustrated was that boss battle against The Fox.


Any tips on Bohan? He is kicking my ass. I spent about an hour on him last night. I can't get the Fireball counter to work consistently enough to avoid fighting him. Fortunately button mashing works decent when you first fight him. Well enough to make it to round two with the winged bastard. Button mashing doesn't work so well on him this time around.

Any good tips? Certain combos? Trick to getting the fireball counter to actually work?

[Rei no Otaku]

Any tips on Bohan? He is kicking my ass. I spent about an hour on him last night. I can't get the Fireball counter to work consistently enough to avoid fighting him. Fortunately button mashing works decent when you first fight him. Well enough to make it to round two with the winged bastard. Button mashing doesn't work so well on him this time around.

Any good tips? Certain combos? Trick to getting the fireball counter to actually work?
With countering you're probably making the mistake I did at first. When he goes to shoot a fireball (it's easy to tell, he'll run away from you) stand still and watch the color. Match the color to the stance and just let it hit you. Don't hit the triangle button until about a second after it hits you! My instinct was to hit it at the same time, but that's not how countering works in this game.

That's really the only tip I can think of. His normal attacks are pretty quick, so unless you're already in the required stance to block there's very little chance you'll switch in time. That's why countering the fireballs is so important.

[orko60]

what I mean is what takes maybe a week to develop normally (e.g. background) on other consoles probably takes 2-3 weeks on PS3.
That's why I feel that devs need tools to help them work more efficiently, and be able to work quickly and efficiently. Ninja Theory had plenty of time to make this game twice as long, however, sony is party to blame for getting the real PS3 specs to them late, and the fact that initially there wasn't much to help. The hardware is fine, the trouble lies in the devs utilization of the hardware.

Okay, thanks for clearing that up. I agree to an extent, but the creation and the implementation of the levels are handled by two different departments, as far as I know.

Anyway, this game really makes me think that Heavenly Sword 2 is going to be an amazing game (just like 1UP's John Davidson said about Motorstorm, a while ago). Once they get those damn shadows looking good (not all flickery).

[Corvin]

With countering you're probably making the mistake I did at first. When he goes to shoot a fireball (it's easy to tell, he'll run away from you) stand still and watch the color. Match the color to the stance and just let it hit you. Don't hit the triangle button until about a second after it hits you! My instinct was to hit it at the same time, but that's not how countering works in this game.

That's really the only tip I can think of. His normal attacks are pretty quick, so unless you're already in the required stance to block there's very little chance you'll switch in time. That's why countering the fireballs is so important.

Thanks. It seems like there is a tiny window to counter them. Too early and you get hit, a split second too late and you get hit.

It wouldn't be so bad if there was a similar mechanic in an earlier level or boss fight to get you acclimated to it.

[Rei no Otaku]

Yeah, that second part of the fight is the hardest. The third part is easier since he loses chunks of his health due to quick time events you do during it.

[Corvin]

I actually had him down on my first try, I got close enough to trigger the 'O' kill, but he backed up too quick, flew up and launched a tirade of fireballs at me ending my life.

That's really the kicker for me. I was there. I haven't come close since. :lol:

[shipwreck]

I actually had him down on my first try, I got close enough to trigger the 'O' kill, but he backed up too quick, flew up and launched a tirade of fireballs at me ending my life.

That's really the kicker for me. I was there. I haven't come close since. :lol:

Just keep spamming the power stance square, square, square combo with an immediate evade afterwards. The evade cancels any recover animation at the end of combos, so you can pretty much use it on just about every boss. That combined with getting the timing on countering his projectiles makes him pretty easy.

That's on the standard mode at least. I'm not sure if the same strategy would work as easily on Hell mode.

[bryaaaant]

I actually had him down on my first try, I got close enough to trigger the 'O' kill, but he backed up too quick, flew up and launched a tirade of fireballs at me ending my life.

That's really the kicker for me. I was there. I haven't come close since. :lol:

I had a really hard time through my first couple tries too, but that was when I didn't know you can counter his projectiles. But that only helped a little bit though - the fight became a lot easier when I tried something new - after he's done with the fireball thing, just chase him down, keep close to him and starting barraging him with three triangle power stance combo, then roll, then repeat. I ended up finishing him with almost half my life bar still with this technique.

[kmartbum001]

I want to rent it, but the blockbuster that is 2 miles from my house only has 1 freaking copy. Guess I'll have to wait until the guy returns it...

[Corvin]

Thanks Rei, shipwreck and bryaaaant. Beat him on the first try during my lunch break.

I was trying to hit the projectiles like a baseball instead of absorbing them first. Then I tried these methods and it worked like a charm. He was very easy at that point. It probably didn't help that I was going at him last night around 1:30 when I was dog tired. :lol: Oh well.

Great game. I recommend it to all. Just be wary of the length when deciding what price point you want to pick it up at. I rented, but will definitely nab it when it is below $20.

[brandonabley]

I rented this game and thought that it was pretty good! I'm glad I didn't buy it though, because I had it finished in a single sitting. It's an absolutely must-rent, in my opinion, but a little thing to drop $60 on.

I was very impressed with the acting, which is some of the best acting I've ever seen in a video game.

[asianxcore]

Caved in and bought this today with EB store credit.

Hoping the full game will be more interesting than the demo.

[FriskyTanuki]

With countering you're probably making the mistake I did at first. When he goes to shoot a fireball (it's easy to tell, he'll run away from you) stand still and watch the color. Match the color to the stance and just let it hit you. Don't hit the triangle button until about a second after it hits you! My instinct was to hit it at the same time, but that's not how countering works in this game.

That's really the only tip I can think of. His normal attacks are pretty quick, so unless you're already in the required stance to block there's very little chance you'll switch in time. That's why countering the fireballs is so important.
Damn. That thought never occured to me to counter his projectiles. I just beat all of his chapters with brute force and quick use of the right analog stick.

[Robobandit]

Caved in and bought this today with EB store credit.

Hoping the full game will be more interesting than the demo.

At least you get to see more environments, which are really well done, imho :)

[kleptoix]

yea i caved and bought one today as well. Hoping to get into it sometime this week. hope its good!

[Dark Slayer120]

Well I just beat Heavenly Sword at 6:30 A.M right now. All I can say is wow, this game is seriously right up there with the best of them story wise. I haven't felt this much connection/cared for the characters since MGS3. IMO this is the best game on the PS3 right now. The end really hit me hard in my soft spot, just like SOTC, ICO, and MGS3 did for the PS2. I really am hoping for a sequel now after this masterpiece. I can't ever see myself getting rid of this game, to me it's just that damn good. Sorry if I sound like a fan-boy but this game finally made me glad to have a PS3. It actually warranted my $600 while no other game has so far. It also really made me remember why I play and love video games. I don't regret dropping $60 on it either, even if it is short I enjoyed every damn minute of it. Whether it be the game play, graphics, story, sound, what ever. To those who have completed it what is your final score? I rate HS a 9.3/10 I don't know if anyone will agree with my score or not but I really enjoyed this game.

[troll_tracka]

yeah i bought this game on wensday and have been playing a chapter ever sitting . i love this game and i dont't mind paying 60 dollars for this game as i know i will be replaying it at least once so thats 12 hours. i rather have games i will actually finish anyway. a co-op feature with her sister would be awesome though

[Corvin]

I'd say a 9.3 is accurate. The voice acting combined with the amazing character animation is in a league of it's own.

Here are my thoughts:
Positives:
- The character animations (cut-scenes) are some of the best I've seen. The emotions the characters evoke is nothing short of amazing. The game is worth checking out for this alone.

- Nariko might just be my favorite female character in a game... ever. Definitely since Jade from BG&E. She actually reminds me of Lara Croft(Legend/Anniversary era) crossed with Jade.

- The scope of some of the levels is on par with Lair and probably the largest I've seen in a next gen game. The large boards are beautiful.

- Voice work is top-notch as well. The best in a game since Dead Rising.

- Like Lair, the soundtrack is excellent.

- The Kai (Nariko's sister) levels are a blast to play. The crossbow with motion control is great.

- Motion control works great in this game and I love it.

- Boss fights are fun and can be challenging. Nice mix of straight battles and quicktime events as finishing moves.

- The game plays out like a movie with a lot of cut scenes which I usually hate but since the production values are high and I actually care about the characters it works in this game.

Negatives:
- 6.5 is too short. Another 3 hours would have been ideal. Personally I think 10 hours is the magic number to justify a $60 purchase. Anything

- no alternate modes or challenges to extend the life of the game other than a higher difficulty setting.

It's hard to fault a game for what it doesn't have, but when you are dealing with such a short campaign I think it is just in this situation. Especially since these companies are intent on charging a $10 premium on games this gen. I want to see my extra $10 go toward something.

[Thomas96]

I'd say a 9.3 is accurate. The voice acting combined with the amazing character animation is in a league of it's own.

Here are my thoughts:
Positives:
- The character animations (cut-scenes) are some of the best I've seen. The emotions the characters evoke is nothing short of amazing. The game is worth checking out for this alone.

- Nariko might just be my favorite female character in a game... ever. Definitely since Jade from BG&E. She actually reminds me of Lara Croft(Legend/Anniversary era) crossed with Jade.

- The scope of some of the levels is on par with Lair and probably the largest I've seen in a next gen game. The large boards are beautiful.

- Voice work is top-notch as well. The best in a game since Dead Rising.

- Like Lair, the soundtrack is excellent.

- The Kai (Nariko's sister) levels are a blast to play. The crossbow with motion control is great.

- Motion control works great in this game and I love it.

- Boss fights are fun and can be challenging. Nice mix of straight battles and quicktime events as finishing moves.

- The game plays out like a movie with a lot of cut scenes which I usually hate but since the production values are high and I actually care about the characters it works in this game.

Negatives:
- 6.5 is too short. Another 3 hours would have been ideal. Personally I think 10 hours is the magic number to justify a $60 purchase. Anything

- no alternate modes or challenges to extend the life of the game other than a higher difficulty setting.

It's hard to fault a game for what it doesn't have, but when you are dealing with such a short campaign I think it is just in this situation. Especially since these companies are intent on charging a $10 premium on games this gen. I want to see my extra $10 go toward something.

I definitely agree with your score.. but for good measure I'd bump it up to 9.5.
but.. you know.. its so easy to take a game like this and sweep it under the rug and say.. oh its too short, its a 7, or 8; but you have to give Ninja Theory credit for the production of the game, for the mini movie that this game is. Not just voice acting... but Acting. Now that I've finished the game, I'm even more impressed with it, than I was beforehand. I hope for part two that that Sony and Ninja Theory, commercilize it as a movie... like how they did FF7, they could do it now.. this game could sell plenty of PS3s but you got to flaunt it, like its the best thing since the invention of the wheel.

[Dark Slayer120]

I definitely agree with your score.. but for good measure I'd bump it up to 9.5.
but.. you know.. its so easy to take a game like this and sweep it under the rug and say.. oh its too short, its a 7, or 8; but you have to give Ninja Theory credit for the production of the game, for the mini movie that this game is. Not just voice acting... but Acting. Now that I've finished the game, I'm even more impressed with it, than I was beforehand. I hope for part two that that Sony and Ninja Theory, commercilize it as a movie... like how they did FF7, they could do it now.. this game could sell plenty of PS3s but you got to flaunt it, like its the best thing since the invention of the wheel.
I would of made it a 9.5 instead of a 9.3 but I had to consider the few negatives that it has. Also did anyone else Get pissed when you thought Fox hung Kai? I was literally pissed because you hear a snap when he throws her over. I was like "You mother fucker, you killed Kai!" I then fought Fox with rage while cursing his name. I really thought she was going to be an annoying side kick but I really like her. I also was happy to know she survived. It's just too bad Narkio didn't... Damn it!

[asianxcore]

Played through the first chapter last night. Really liking what I've played so far. I definitely agree with all of you that the voice acting/acting is great.

The plot is actually pretty interesting. To be completely honest when I first saw promo pictures of the game (as well as the short trailer in movie theaters), I was expecting a "OmG you slaughtered my clan/killed my family, I'm GunNa GeT U!!!!". I have to say I was pleasantly surprised with the back story thus far.

I wasn't sold on the Aftertouch controls. They got sort of annoying so I had to turn them off. All is good now.

[amicus]

i just finished it. did a chapter a day. to make it last.

i wouldn't rate it higher than an 8.5.

i agree with everyone the voice acting\cutscenes were good. but the entire game was too easy. it was fun while it lasted, but there was no challenge. i did enjoy the kai levels.

[Inf^Shini]

i just finished it. did a chapter a day. to make it last.

i wouldn't rate it higher than an 8.5.

i agree with everyone the voice acting\cutscenes were good. but the entire game was too easy. it was fun while it lasted, but there was no challenge. i did enjoy the kai levels.

Kk, so how hard is hell mode?

[ighosty]

finished the game
one thing that i hated was that in the last battle hundrends of guys are running around you so you can't freaken see the guy half the time and how anything that you have to press a specific button for switchs,attacks so on you have to be in an exact location for them, meaning if your a foot to the left or right you won't be able to do them.

but it was a good rent

[Corvin]

I wasn't sold on the Aftertouch controls. They got sort of annoying so I had to turn them off. All is good now.

I assume you only did the Canon level then. I'd turn them back on and give it another shot, especially for the Kai levels.

Also when you are knocked into the air you can shake the controller to latch on to your attacker and recover without hitting the ground. Very handy move. Not sure if they mapped it to a button if motion is set to 'off'.

And arguing over 9.3 and 9.5? :lol: You are the guys all the podcasters talk about with disdain. :)

[Thomas96]

I would of made it a 9.5 instead of a 9.3 but I had to consider the few negatives that it has. Also did anyone else Get pissed when you thought Fox hung Kai? I was literally pissed because you hear a snap when he throws her over. I was like "You mother fucker, you killed Kai!" I then fought Fox with rage while cursing his name. I really thought she was going to be an annoying side kick but I really like her. I also was happy to know she survived. It's just too bad Narkio didn't... Damn it!


I definitely was pissed when that happened. but all in all things will be alright. The level select is after Nariko past, and the whole story is like her telling the story to someone else; also, they didn't bury or burn Nariko's body. During the first couple of missions, you could see bodys up on a wooded thing so that they could be burned. So the fact that they did her differently, says that her sould could return at any time. Or I was thinking that perhaps she'd be reborn when Kai is an elderly woman and they'd meet again there... who knows. overall, I'm just glad that no one died.. I definitely didn't want Bohan to die.

[Inf^Shini]

All these spoiler tags are killing me :bomb:

[cdeener]

Okay, did anyone else catch this in the game that made me laugh my ass off: When Kai has to get the password and has the guard that doesn't want to give it to her and she says, "Maybe I'll hit your critical point for MASSIVE DAMAGE."

[ighosty]

Okay, did anyone else catch this in the game that made me laugh my ass off: When Kai has to get the password and has the guard that doesn't want to give it to her and she says, "Maybe I'll hit your critical point for MASSIVE DAMAGE."
yep wasn't that funny. I thought this was pretty funny tho in the last chapater the son ,can't remember his name, is playing with flying foxes dead body in the cutscene :applause:

[Rei no Otaku]

I definitely was pissed when that happened. but all in all things will be alright. The level select is after Nariko past, and the whole story is like her telling the story to someone else; also, they didn't bury or burn Nariko's body. During the first couple of missions, you could see bodys up on a wooded thing so that they could be burned. So the fact that they did her differently, says that her sould could return at any time. Or I was thinking that perhaps she'd be reborn when Kai is an elderly woman and they'd meet again there... who knows. overall, I'm just glad that no one died.. I definitely didn't want Bohan to die.
The parts where she's narrating happen before she dies. Right before she's reborn and fights Bohan. So that doesn't mean she's still alive. Honestly, I hope she stays dead. Not that I didn't like Nariko, but I just hate when characters make some kind of miraculous return. It cheapens their sacrifice.

[whoknows]

Ok, fuck you guys.

All of you. I went to Blockbuster to rent it and it wasn't there and now I'm about to buy it.

Again, fuck you all :lol:

[Dark Slayer120]

Okay, did anyone else catch this in the game that made me laugh my ass off: When Kai has to get the password and has the guard that doesn't want to give it to her and she says, "Maybe I'll hit your critical point for MASSIVE DAMAGE."
Yeah that was great, so many great lines by everyone to be honest...

[Thomas96]

omg I hate these motion controls... I'm going to force myself to get used to them... my first time through the game I cut them off.

[Dark Slayer120]

Ok, fuck you guys.

All of you. I went to Blockbuster to rent it and it wasn't there and now I'm about to buy it.

Again, fuck you all :lol:

Fuck you BOI.:lol:

[Dark Slayer120]

omg I hate these motion controls... I'm going to force myself to get used to them... my first time through the game I cut them off.

Why? It takes about 15 or so minutes to get use to them. Once you do the game is a blast, I left them on for the whole game and I am glad I did. I probably wouldn't of enjoyed the Kai mission's as much if I took them off.

[Inf^Shini]

Ok, fuck you guys.

All of you. I went to Blockbuster to rent it and it wasn't there and now I'm about to buy it.

Again, fuck you all
Haha, I would like to send the same shout out to all the CAG people out there who are tormenting me with all these spoilers ;)

Temptation is not a pretty thing :cold:

[Dark Slayer120]

The parts where she's narrating happen before she dies. Right before she's reborn and fights Bohan. So that doesn't mean she's still alive. Honestly, I hope she stays dead. Not that I didn't like Nariko, but I just hate when characters make some kind of miraculous return. It cheapens their sacrifice.
Yeah I feel the same way. Even though I loved Nariko, it's better if she stays dead. Look at every thing she accomplished before she died. Bringing her back would cheapen that. I have no idea on how they are going to do the series if they make a 2 though without her to be honest.

[whoknows]

Haha, I would like to send the same shout out to all the CAG people out there who are tormenting me with all these spoilers ;)

Temptation is not a pretty thing :cold:
Well you know, It's probably good

but

only 6 hours long for $60 is going to hurt

Then again

Maybe I'll play it a few times if I can get into the combat system.

because

I played DMC3 I don't know how many times because the combat is amazing in it

And the spoilers suck

because

I couldn't stop myself from reading a few of them

So I'll just suck it up and buy the damn game.

It'll probably be worth it

If not I'll Kill everyone who made me want to buy it but I just remembered I have a paper due tomorrow so I should wait on buying


Can't resist though so I'll just get it. I'll beat it and then do my paper

Take that!

[Inf^Shini]

Well you know, It's probably good

but

only 6 hours long for $60 is going to hurt

Then again

Maybe I'll play it a few times if I can get into the combat system.

because

I played DMC3 I don't know how many times because the combat is amazing in it

And the spoilers suck

because

I couldn't stop myself from reading a few of them

So I'll just suck it up and buy the damn game.

It'll probably be worth it

If not I'll Kill everyone who made me want to buy it but I just remembered I have a paper due tomorrow so I should wait on buying


Can't resist though so I'll just get it. I'll beat it and then do my paper

Take that!

Read em' all, I figured you wouldn't spoil anything ;)

Attempt FAILED!:booty:

[whoknows]

Read em' all, I figured you wouldn't spoil anything ;)

Attempt FAILED!:booty:
You just Got lucky that I didn't spoil anything because Aeris dies now I win!!!

[Dark Slayer120]

Well you know, It's probably good

but

only 6 hours long for $60 is going to hurt

Then again

Maybe I'll play it a few times if I can get into the combat system.

because

I played DMC3 I don't know how many times because the combat is amazing in it

And the spoilers suck

because

I couldn't stop myself from reading a few of them

So I'll just suck it up and buy the damn game.

It'll probably be worth it

If not I'll Kill everyone who made me want to buy it but I just remembered I have a paper due tomorrow so I should wait on buying


Can't resist though so I'll just get it. I'll beat it and then do my paper

Take that!

Lol the game is worth the $60 man. Trust me on this, everything in the game is a fucking blast. From the graphics, to the sound, to the game play, to the story. Only thing it lacks is replay value since there isn't much innovative to have you re play it again. Other then a new difficulty called Hell mode. I'll be replaying it though to try and get all the tokens and just to enjoy the master piece story and cut scenes again. IMO this is the best game the PS3 has right now followed by Resistance and then Warhawk. I'm glad I bought it instead of renting it, but knowing yourself maybe you should wait for a price drop.

[whoknows]

Lol the game is worth the $60 man. Trust me on this, everything in the game is a fucking blast. From the graphics, to the sound, to the game play, to the story. Only thing it lacks is replay value since there isn't much innovative to have you re play it again. Other then a new difficulty called Hell mode. I'll be replaying it though to try and get all the tokens and just to enjoy the master piece story and cut scenes again. IMO this is the best game the PS3 has right now followed by Resistance and then Warhawk. I'm glad I bought it instead of renting it, but knowing yourself maybe you should wait for a price drop.
Well I plan on buying it tonight then trading in stuff to swap adn getting it from there. When I get it I'll just return it to wherever I got it from. I'm impatient :-P

And I still think The Darkness is the best game on the PS3 since it is still my favorite game so far this year :D

[Inf^Shini]

You just Got lucky that I didn't spoil anything because Aeris dies now I win!!!
Aeris lives b/c I have her on disk 3 ;)
and
The Darkness suffers from a poor aiming system!

:booty:2nd Attempt FAILED!!:booty:

[Dark Slayer120]

Well I plan on buying it tonight then trading in stuff to swap adn getting it from there. When I get it I'll just return it to wherever I got it from. I'm impatient :-P

And I still think The Darkness is the best game on the PS3 since it is still my favorite game so far this year :D

Ah so you're going to trade in some shit for it then? Noice. That would be the best way to do it, I really think you'll like it since IMO it's better then GOW but not as good as NG/DMC since it really isn't all that hard. I died maybe 5 times in the whole game. Plus I think you'll really love the motion controls in the game as well. Anyway you'll have to let me know your impressions and what not, and let me know if you do end up ordering it from there. ;) I got my brothers copy from there, but make sure you get a brand new a sealed copy from there, since the last PS3 game I got from there used was in shit condition. :bomb:

[whoknows]

Aeris lives b/c I have her on disk 3 ;)
and
The Darkness suffers from a poor aiming system!

:booty:2nd Attempt FAILED!!:booty:
HAX!!

and

The Darkness has aim assist or whatever it's called for a reason :-P

[Inf^Shini]

HAX!!

and

The Darkness has aim assist or whatever it's called for a reason :-P It's legit b/c I said so ;)

btw, Aim assist is like riding a bicycle with training wheels down the street :cold:, the only real driving force for me was the story :hot:

Take That!

Oh, and also, I was planning on trading in The Darkness towards Heavenly Sword ;), that and Oblivion :-k, unless someone here wouldn't mind trading with me for HS?:D

[Dark Slayer120]

It's legit b/c I said so ;)

btw, Aim assist is like riding a bicycle with training wheels down the street :cold:, the only real driving force for me was the story :hot:

Take That!

Oh, and also, I was planning on trading in The Darkness towards Heavenly Sword ;), that and Oblivion :-k, unless someone here wouldn't mind trading with me for HS?:D

Better be quick for Oblivion since I can see the value dropping with the GOTY version coming.

[whoknows]

It's legit b/c I said so ;)

btw, Aim assist is like riding a bicycle with training wheels down the street :cold:, the only real driving force for me was the story :hot:

Take That!

Oh, and also, I was planning on trading in The Darkness towards Heavenly Sword ;), that and Oblivion :-k, unless someone here wouldn't mind trading with me for HS?:D
It's just the way the gameplay was done in The Darkness. You'd be screwed without it ;)
Better be quick for Oblivion since I can see the value dropping with the GOTY version coming.
I'm trading it away on Swap :-P

[Inf^Shini]

Better be quick for Oblivion since I can see the value dropping with the GOTY version coming.
I know O_O

Gah, I wish that EB/Gamestop 50% extra deal was here in Cali :/

It's just the way the gameplay was done in The Darkness. You'd be screwed without it ;)

I'm trading it away on Swap :-P
Hopefully Darkness 2 will feature a different targeting system :p

[Dark Slayer120]

It's just the way the gameplay was done in The Darkness. You'd be screwed without it ;)

I'm trading it away on Swap :-P

Ha ha I just sent mine in the other day too! ;) I got bored of it pretty fast, I'll take the $40 in credit they game me for it. :D

[Corvin]

just adding to the torment.

[Dark Slayer120]

Corvin you should add me on Psn. ;)

[Vanigan]

Actual spoiler about endgame and future sequels.

I wouldn't mind either way if Nariko returned or stayed dead. Remember she was a goddess at one point.

But it'd be more interesting if a much more mature Kai took up the sword.

So we know the Heavensly Sword isn't so heavenly, obviously it's a bad bloodthirsty weapon that takes souls. So no matter what they do, they've left themselves a lot of room for sequels. Including dealing with the sword, and dealing with whatever that Raven Lord thing was.

Nariko could come back in the form of a spirit guide for Kai when she takes up the sword. Remember, when Nariko died the first time, she was inside the sword for a time before it sent her back, only to kill her again.

I also want to see what they do with Bohan now that's he's completely defeated. Could be that he turns into a powerful ally in the next game. But it is good to know that Andy Serkis will be back for any sequels.

[whoknows]

Went to go get the game at the only place open after 9pm Wal-Mart

However They didn't have it

Now I gotta Wait and get it tomorrow.

This makes me feel like Eating a cookie

[Inf^Shini]

I got some Famous Amos cookies

Oblivion is definitely on the trade towards HS, still considering Darkness, I still wanna unlock everything and read the comics :p

Ha ha I just sent mine in the other day too! ;) I got bored of it pretty fast, I'll take the $40 in credit they game me for it. :D

Where did you go to trade it in?

[orko60]

I assume you only did the Canon level then. I'd turn them back on and give it another shot, especially for the Kai levels.

Also when you are knocked into the air you can shake the controller to latch on to your attacker and recover without hitting the ground. Very handy move. Not sure if they mapped it to a button if motion is set to 'off'.

And arguing over 9.3 and 9.5? :lol: You are the guys all the podcasters talk about with disdain. :)

If you turn the aftertouch off for the quick recovery (when knocked down), it maps to the X button.

I was super-frustrated with the aftertouch during the first kai level (the nighttime one), but after doing her next level, I was in love.

Am I weird for thinking that Kai is really hot?

[Dark Slayer120]

Actual spoiler about endgame and future sequels.

I wouldn't mind either way if Nariko returned or stayed dead. Remember she was a goddess at one point.

But it'd be more interesting if a much more mature Kai took up the sword.

So we know the Heavenly Sword isn't so heavenly, obviously it's a bad bloodthirsty weapon that takes souls. So no matter what they do, they've left themselves a lot of room for sequels. Including dealing with the sword, and dealing with whatever that Raven Lord thing was.

Nariko could come back in the form of a spirit guide for Kai when she takes up the sword. Remember, when Nariko died the first time, she was inside the sword for a time before it sent her back, only to kill her again.

I also want to see what they do with Bohan now that's he's completely defeated. Could be that he turns into a powerful ally in the next game. But it is good to know that Andy Serkis will be back for any sequels.

I agree 100%, after beating it again last night I understood more of the plot. Since last time I had to watch for buttons to press I missed some of it.:bomb: I completely agree with you I can really see Kai being the new main character, and having Narkio come back as a spirit aid or w/e. They could possibly bring her back to since the sword brought her back once it could do it again, although I'd rather have her stay dead. Yeah the Heavenly sword isn't so Heavenly now is it?;) Fact is that it isn't and Nariko figured that out and tried to stop it from killing any more of her clan members. It brought nothing but death, to those wielding it, and those trying to obtain it. Yes Andy Serkis is a fucking genius, I loved him as Bohan. I loved all the voice overs/acting in this game. Everyone did a great job, and Bohan became one of my new favorite villains. Also we know now that Kai is "healed" and doesn't act childish anymore. Whether that be because she killed Flying Fox and that put her at piece with seeing her mother killed by him, or because Nariko used the last of her Heavenly powers to save her. Also it could be a combination of both of those things. Should be quiet interesting though to see what they do if/when they make a HS2.

Where did you go to trade it in?
My game crazy, although they dropped the trade in value of it now. It's around $27 now I think.

[whoknows]

Grabbed the game. Won't get to play it until later tonight.

A good 9-10 hours away.

Ah well.

[Thomas96]

Grabbed the game. Won't get to play it until later tonight.

A good 9-10 hours away.

Ah well.


enjoy it!

[Dark Slayer120]

While it lasts....

[whoknows]

While it lasts....
Heh.

I haven't even opened it yet. I've been playing Sly 2 :-P

[Dark Slayer120]

Heh.

I haven't even opened it yet. I've been playing Sly 2 :-P

Lol you play it and you do it nao! I beat it in about 6 1/2 hours. That was with exploring and fucking around as well. I probably could of did it in 6 but I like to have fun in my games and not rush right through it. ;) I am getting ready to replay it tonight on hell mode. :D

[Inf^Shini]

Lol you play it and you do it nao! I beat it in about 6 1/2 hours. That was with exploring and fucking around as well. I probably could of did it in 6 but I like to have fun in my games and not rush right through it. ;) I am getting ready to replay it tonight on hell mode. :D

Does it share any kind replayability like Streets Of Rage 2? i.e. Kinda short but hella fun beat em' up that you'll find yourself coming back to time and time again?

[Dark Slayer120]

Does it share any kind replayability like Streets Of Rage 2? i.e. Kinda short but hella fun beat em' up that you'll find yourself coming back to time and time again?

Well I think it does. The story is superb so I know I'll want to go through it again and again, same for the cut scenes and acting. Also the game play is fun, smooth and fluid. Also you have tokens you can get on each stage, I think total is 126? So replaying the levels to try and get all of them adds a little to the replay value. Also you can get them on both normal and hell difficulty. It really just depends on if you liked the game enough to want to replay it over and over. Also to me the last boss battle was reason enough for the $60. A classic you just can't forget, this baby will sit nicely along with the other classic story games (SOTC, ICO, MGS3).

[whoknows]

Well I opened it and put it in my PS3.

It's installing, and at this rate I'll be able to go sleep, go to work, come back and it should be 50% of the way done :lol:

[Inf^Shini]

Well I think it does. The story is superb so I know I'll want to go through it again and again, same for the cut scenes and acting. Also the game play is fun, smooth and fluid. Also you have tokens you can get on each stage, I think total is 126? So replaying the levels to try and get all of them adds a little to the replay value. Also you can get them on both normal and hell difficulty. It really just depends on if you liked the game enough to want to replay it over and over. Also to me the last boss battle was reason enough for the $60. A classic you just can't forget, this baby will sit nicely along with the other classic story games (SOTC, ICO, MGS3).
Sounds like reason enough ;)

I've been listening to Trivium's cover of Metallica's "Master Of Puppets", and I kepy imagining some epic fight between Nariko and Bohan. You should listen to that song, I love how it starts.

Engrossing stories are always a big plus for me, so this sounds like it's right up my alley :D

Well I opened it and put it in my PS3.

It's installing, and at this rate I'll be able to go sleep, go to work, come back and it should be 50% of the way done :lol:

Haha, I'll be looking forward to that as well. Lookin' to pick this up this weekend! Come on trade-in values! Don't let me down!

[Dark Slayer120]

Well I opened it and put it in my PS3.

It's installing, and at this rate I'll be able to go sleep, go to work, come back and it should be 50% of the way done :lol:

It only took 5 minutes for mine to install....?

[Dark Slayer120]

Sounds like reason enough ;)

I've been listening to Trivium's cover of Metallica's "Master Of Puppets", and I kepy imagining some epic fight between Nariko and Bohan. You should listen to that song, I love how it starts.

Engrossing stories are always a big plus for me, so this sounds like it's right up my alley

I really think you'll like it. Anyone that loves action games has to play this game. Let me rephrase that anyone that loves awesome stories, with amazing graphics, with amazing cut scenes, with amazing game play, with amazing voice overs, with amazing acting in action games should play this game. Yeah the final battle between those two is fucking awesome. Very few games have had that great of a final battle. Only a few games come to mind.


Also it's play time bitchies!!!


http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Onwr6evKts

[whoknows]

It only took 5 minutes for mine to install....?
Well when I'm sitting watching and waiting it seems like it's taking forever :-P

[whoknows]

I'm on the final chapter now. I think I'll hold off on beating it for today.

I enjoyed the game for the most part, but there were a few things I didn't like.

As for the length of the game, I think it's better that it's a shorter game, I could definitely see it getting repetitive if it was too much longer. About another 2 hours would have been good, but I'm ok with how it is I suppose.

[Cyb3-rr]

It took me a little while to get used to the motion controls, but I pulled off the most awesome trick shot yesterday when playing as Kai. I shot an arrow at a guy on the bridge (trying to save daddy) and at the last second he stopped. The arrow flew through his legs, just barely missing his crotch, and then I was able to tilt the arrow up to spear a guy in the head who was a couple feet behind him. I couldn't stop laughing at how cool that was. Collision detection has come a long way since Doom. ;)

I just wish the game had a replay function.

[Inf^Shini]

I really think you'll like it. Anyone that loves action games has to play this game. Let me rephrase that anyone that loves awesome stories, with amazing graphics, with amazing cut scenes, with amazing game play, with amazing voice overs, with amazing acting in action games should play this game. Yeah the final battle between those two is fucking awesome. Very few games have had that great of a final battle. Only a few games come to mind.


Also it's play time bitchies!!!


http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Onwr6evKts

Word. Looks like I'll be playing this on the weekend. That gameplay vid of Kai is perty tite :D

It took me a little while to get used to the motion controls, but I pulled off the most awesome trick shot yesterday when playing as Kai. I shot an arrow at a guy on the bridge (trying to save daddy) and at the last second he stopped. The arrow flew through his legs, just barely missing his crotch, and then I was able to tilt the arrow up to spear a guy in the head who was a couple feet behind him. I couldn't stop laughing at how cool that was. Collision detection has come a long way since Doom. ;)

I just wish the game had a replay function.
To record those treasured moments eh? Haha

[Dark Slayer120]

I'm on the final chapter now. I think I'll hold off on beating it for today.

I enjoyed the game for the most part, but there were a few things I didn't like.

As for the length of the game, I think it's better that it's a shorter game, I could definitely see it getting repetitive if it was too much longer. About another 2 hours would have been good, but I'm ok with how it is I suppose.

What didn't you like? I got to hear this.

[whoknows]

What didn't you like? I got to hear this.
I actually didn't like aftertouch very much. It's a good concept, but it was kind of annoying to control, especially with the Sixaxis controls on.

Also some of those "puzzles" were annoying as well, mainly the ones where you have to ricochet a shield or whatever off walls, especially the ones where you have like...2 seconds to do it.

Also one thing they should have done, was during the QTE's, space out the timing like God of War 2 so that you push the button, you get to watch what it does, and then see what you have to push next. With this you were pretty much watching for what button to push and didn't really get to see all the cool things Nariko was doing in the background.

I still enjoyed the game and don't regret buying it. I enjoy the combat system even though it is a little too reliant on countering. Should keep me busy until DMC4 if I need my action game fix.

[cdeener]

I beat this last night and have to say thanks for those that described the Final Battle so I could finish it. One of the better games that I've played in recent history. Now, it is on its way back to Blockbuster.

[CaseyRyback]

I actually didn't like aftertouch very much. It's a good concept, but it was kind of annoying to control, especially with the Sixaxis controls on.

Also some of those "puzzles" were annoying as well, mainly the ones where you have to ricochet a shield or whatever off walls, especially the ones where you have like...2 seconds to do it.

Also one thing they should have done, was during the QTE's, space out the timing like God of War 2 so that you push the button, you get to watch what it does, and then see what you have to push next. With this you were pretty much watching for what button to push and didn't really get to see all the cool things Nariko was doing in the background.

I still enjoyed the game and don't regret buying it. I enjoy the combat system even though it is a little too reliant on countering. Should keep me busy until DMC4 if I need my action game fix.

I am about to finish chapter 2, and I agree with all your gripes. That said, I can't wait to see what they do with the second one. There are not all that many faults with the game and with more know how of the platform and the engine I bet they can do some really cool shit.

[whoknows]

Beat the game.

I don't like that they Killed off Nariko, I hope they fine some decent way to bring her back for the other games if they do make it a trilogy. I'd be against the idea of a more mature Kai because I like her the way she is, wouldn't be as much fun if she was serious.

[Dark Slayer120]

I actually didn't like aftertouch very much. It's a good concept, but it was kind of annoying to control, especially with the Sixaxis controls on.

Also some of those "puzzles" were annoying as well, mainly the ones where you have to ricochet a shield or whatever off walls, especially the ones where you have like...2 seconds to do it.

Wow really? I thought the motion controls and the after touch was put in rather nicely myself. I had fun with the puzzles as well involving the motion controls. I didn't have a problem with any of them except maybe the one where you raised a boulder up or w/e and you only have two tries to hit the button to get it right. Other wise you had to keep on raising it and trying it again. That one was a little annoying but it didn't really bother me at all.

Also one thing they should have done, was during the QTE's, space out the timing like God of War 2 so that you push the button, you get to watch what it does, and then see what you have to push next. With this you were pretty much watching for what button to push and didn't really get to see all the cool things Nariko was doing in the background.

I do agree with this, but it isn't a huge gripe IMO since I basically memorized everything and now I can watch sexi Nariko. ;)

I still enjoyed the game and don't regret buying it. I enjoy the combat system even though it is a little too reliant on countering. Should keep me busy until DMC4 if I need my action game fix.

Cool.


Beat the game.

I don't like that they Killed off Nariko, I hope they fine some decent way to bring her back for the other games if they do make it a trilogy. I'd be against the idea of a more mature Kai because I like her the way she is, wouldn't be as much fun if she was serious.

I really think they will have Kai as the main charachter at least in HS2 that is. As you could tell from the end when Nariko saved her, her "childishness" had worn away. She was a more serious Kai, a Kai we haven't seen the entire game. I think this is because of two reasons:

#1: Once she killed flying fox she was finally at peace with herself, and her mom.

#2: Having Nariko use the last of her remaining Heavenly power to save her from dying cured her. Also seeing Nariko die really made her put everything in perspective.

Thats just really my opinion on it, but I really see Kai as being the new main character, and being the more serious Kai we saw at the end. Nariko could be brought back, since the sword brought her back once it could do it again. Although if they do bring her back it better not be a dumb fucking way like surprise it was all a dream or surprise we are time traveling...:roll: I still think it would be better if they let her stay dead, but maybe have her as a spirit guide for Kai or w/e.

[SteveMcQ]

I'm really tempted to go back and pick this up at TRU. I like what I saw of the Kai levels in movies, though I wasn't too fond of the demo itself with Nariko fighting. I liked GoW enough (only played through the first), but there seems to be far more platforming in that than in this. The story also sounds awesome and I really need something that will get me to keep playing my PS3. All I fire it up for is the occasional Warhawk and BR movies. Suggestions?

[Pootie Thang]

This game is amazing. I beat it tonight after purchasing it on Tuesday for the B2G1. Although it was short, I believe it was one of the best action games I've played. I've already gone back and played some of the older levels already.

[Vanigan]

Endgame discussion continued:

I still think Nariko could make an appearance as some sort of spirit guide to Kai. After all, Nariko is likely trapped inside the sword still, or at least part of her is. When Kai finally takes up the sword.

If not, then we'll probably still get a mention of Nariko, as Kai, or whoever is the next protagonist, needs to learn to master the sword.

One thing we'll probably see in the next game is more fights with monsters, or at least more varied troops types. It's obvious that Nariko and Bohan were just the first moves in a much larger power struggle between powerful forces. And those forces are going to want the not so heavenly sword.

[Corvin]

Well if Nariko is just trapped in the sword then she could presumably be released at any time. I don't see them abandoning that character. It's probably a safe bet that Kai will play a larger role, but I definitely see Nariko returning.

[Rei no Otaku]

Well if Nariko is just trapped in the sword then she could presumably be released at any time. I don't see them abandoning that character. It's probably a safe bet that Kai will play a larger role, but I definitely see Nariko returning.
Boo! I'm seriously thinking of starting a "Let Dead Characters Stay Dead" group. It seriously pisses me off. If they didn't want her to die, then don't kill her off! Don't cheapen the sacrifice because some people can't accept the fact she's gone. There's so many ways they could continue the story without bringing her back to life.

[Corvin]

Boo! I'm seriously thinking of starting a "Let Dead Characters Stay Dead" group. It seriously pisses me off. If they didn't want her to die, then don't kill her off! Don't cheapen the sacrifice because some people can't accept the fact she's gone. There's so many ways they could continue the story without bringing her back to life.

Normally I'd agree, but Nariko has to be my favorite Heroine in a game, period. I hope we haven't seen the last of her. Also, Ninja Theory could have already planned out how to bring her back for a sequel when writing the first game.

[Cyb3-rr]

After playing the game for a while, I would definately give it a 9 out of 10. It has pretty much everything going for it. Excellent cutscenes (probably the best acting I've seen in a cutscene, and the facial modeling is outstanding, really close to what I saw in the Mafia 2 trailer), variety in gameplay, and, for the most part, beautiful graphics. I have an absolute blast with the Kai chapters and they are a nice change of pace from Narikos sword fighting. It also feels like a game that I wouldn't mind playing through again after completion, which isn't a surprise considering the amount of times I played through the demo.

I watched the demonstration they showed at TGS for Ninja Gaiden 2, and it actually looked fairly repetitive and dull compared to this game. That won't be released for a while, though, so I'll reserve my judgement.

I certainly hope that development has begun on the sequel.

[ReaperZER0]

Played through it in one day. Only had trouble with Flying Fox (the second time), and the last boss (especially the last form) until I figured out how to be cheaper than he was being.

[Dark Slayer120]

Normally I'd agree, but Nariko has to be my favorite Heroine in a game, period. I hope we haven't seen the last of her. Also, Ninja Theory could have already planned out how to bring her back for a sequel when writing the first game.

She is my favorite heroine of all time as well, but I have to agree with Rei. If they do bring her back, and they pull it off well then I might change my opinion on it. I just have a feeling if they do bring her back it's going to be in a dumb ass way.


Played through it in one day. Only had trouble with Flying Fox (the second time), and the last boss (especially the last form) until I figured out how to be cheaper than he was being.
What did you have trouble with against flying fox 2nd time? I keep hearing of people having trouble with this battle and I don't understand why. I never had to do any boss fights more then once, as they all seemed pretty easy to me.

[Inf^Shini]

Has anyone played through it on Hell Mode? Is it exceptionally harder? Any different enemies?

Gah, I remembered I get paid today, woo hoo! Can't wait to pick it up and pop it in my PS3

[Dark Slayer120]

Has anyone played through it on Hell Mode? Is it exceptionally harder? Any different enemies?

Gah, I remembered I get paid today, woo hoo! Can't wait to pick it up and pop it in my PS3

I will tonight, I heard it wasn't that much different then Normal though. Will confirm later tonight for sure.

[whoknows]

She is my favorite heroine of all time as well, but I have to agree with Rei. If they do bring her back, and they pull it off well then I might change my opinion on it. I just have a feeling if they do bring her back it's going to be in a dumb ass way.



What did you have trouble with against flying fox 2nd time? I keep hearing of people having trouble with this battle and I don't understand why. I never had to do any boss fights more then once, as they all seemed pretty easy to me.
I had to do the final boss more than once. I think it's nearly impossible to hti back the blue things he shoots at you. I can do the orange just fine, but I kept trying for the blue and only got it about half the time.

[Dark Slayer120]

I had to do the final boss more than once. I think it's nearly impossible to hti back the blue things he shoots at you. I can do the orange just fine, but I kept trying for the blue and only got it about half the time.

You couldn't get the blue ones? :-s It's no different then the orange ones man. Just match up the stance with them and counter simple. I didn't have any trouble with Bohan, as I thought all his projectiles were pretty easy to counter and attack him with. I loved the final battle with Bohan though, easily one of the best battles of all time. Hell I thought the last battle with him warranted the $60 alone. I just hope in HS2 they make it harder, especially the boss battles since the game felt really easy to me. Maybe hell mode will change that though, I am hoping so.

[CaseyRyback]

I loved when Kai said "Maybe I will hit your weakpoint for massive damage."

[Inf^Shini]

Woo hoo, bought the game for $20 after trading some games collecting dust

I'll let the game install now and play it later, since I have to go to work :(

Edit: Hmm, it installed in about a minute, guess I'll play some HS now :D

[lurknomore]

I haven't gone through this entire thread...but I'm presuming that this is yet another 720p only game. So we 1080i gamers are screwed to play 420p, right? Can anyone confirm this either way?

[Rei no Otaku]

It's 720p only.

[Dark Slayer120]

It's 720p only.
This is correct.


I loved when Kai said "Maybe I will hit your weakpoint for massive damage."

Yeah that was great, so many great lines in this game. :D

[Inf^Shini]

I'm up to the part where you find Nariko's father and you fight that lady, don't remember her name :-k

I love the cutscenes, so far my two favs are both with King Bohan, first when Nariko is surrounded, Bohan's expressions and actions I found to be very ammusing, and the second when he's speaking to his three subordinates and the one dude Nariko just fought is trippin' out Bohan. I found that scene real funny.

So far the game is pretty awesome and the only problem I'm having is controlling things with aftertouch, especially Kai's arrows, I seem to be really good at missing BARELY, I mean, through the legs, right by the arms, buzzing the head, etc.. :/

[Dark Slayer120]

I'm up to the part where you find Nariko's father and you fight that lady, don't remember her name :-k

I love the cutscenes, so far my two favs are both with King Bohan, first when Nariko is surrounded, Bohan's expressions and actions I found to be very ammusing, and the second when he's speaking to his three subordinates and the one dude Nariko just fought is trippin' out Bohan. I found that scene real funny.

So far the game is pretty awesome and the only problem I'm having is controlling things with aftertouch, especially Kai's arrows, I seem to be really good at missing BARELY, I mean, through the legs, right by the arms, buzzing the head, etc.. :/
It just takes time to get used to it, you will get the hang of it eventually. Once you do, it will become rather easy to hit them targets. I started out aiming for their chests since that is the biggest area to hit and once I could pull them off easy worked my way from there.

[Vanigan]

Also, try turning off motion control for aftertouch, works a lot better to me.

[Dark Slayer120]

Also, try turning off motion control for aftertouch, works a lot better to me.

I'll have to try that myself as well and see if it makes a big difference or not for me. Thanks for the tip Van, although I really don't have that much difficulty with it. Usually if I do it's the cannon's that get me and I JUST miss the targets.

[Psykodelik]

I'm up to the part where you find Nariko's father and you fight that lady, don't remember her name :-k

I love that part. I play that at least once when I play HS.

[Inf^Shini]

I love that part. I play that at least once when I play HS.


The slit-faced psycho :p
Oooh, it's so much better when you're angry! Raawwrrr <3

[Dark Slayer120]

How are you liking it so far Shini?

[Inf^Shini]

How are you liking it so far Shini?
Dude, just passed the game. It's friggin' awesome and I loved watching the cutscenes. I was trippin' out when Kai starts getting a flashback and then Fox shows up. When she started screaming I was like, daaaammmnn, I hope he doesn't skewer her or somethin'. I was all into that part.
I felt that all the levels were very well designed, just one gripe is that some parts were just WAY too short. The integration and transitioning of the melee/shooter levels were really well done.
As for the actual combat, I never found it to be repetitive nor simple, and it wasn't all that easy to get through. I had to try three times against whiptail, fox (second time fighting), and had to retry two parts of the fight with Bohan, the first and third parts to be exact. Returning his blasts was reminiscent of Ocarina of Time vs. Ganondorf, and the whole three-part fight was really cool. One crazy thing happened at the very last part of the fight. We were trading blows, and I chucked him into the catapult ship and into the building, reflecting shots, he kinda kept kicking my ass when it was straight up melee fighting. I got all his health down, and I was barely hanging in, then I messed up on reflecting a blue blast and I died. The whole atmosphere and the fact that it went down to the line made me actually love the fact that I died, since I got even more into it. Thus on my next attempt, I pretty much whooped his ass ;D

Something I found coincidental was that I was at work earlier and ended up watching this Korean series called "Yeon gae so mun", and the one general left for one nation made a speech similar to that of Shen near the end of the game, when he's rallying the clan.

Now I can't wait for a second installment >_< I really hope they bring Nariko back, and I can't see Kai wielding the sword, seeing as how it would just kill her in the end and obviously that sorta thing would make a second HS more redundant. If anything, I'd see Nariko "inside" Kai and more involvement of the goddess/Raven King, as well as a new protaganist to kick some ass assisting Kai ;D
I honestly can see this like a Star Wars thing in the fact that there is a power struggle/attempt to acquire dominance with the sacrifice of some Key Characters, gone in physical form but not in spirit.

[Vanigan]

I've got to say that the Kai segment where you protect Master Shen on the bridge was one of the best sniper sequences in a game I've ever encountered.

I see this as just the opening moves in a much larger struggle. It's clear that in the Heavenly Sword story, there's more going on than just people looking for a magical sword. The raven lord is one faction at play, as is whoever made the heavenly sword. There'll likely be other factions. All in all they really made a good script here, one of the few cases where they managed to both have a self contained story with a satisfying end, and leave a lot of room open for sequels.


Anyone have sales data on this? I rented it, so the devs still got some of my money. I just couldn't buy it due to the length, but I hope it sold well enough for there to be more content made.

[Inf^Shini]

I've got to say that the Kai segment where you protect Master Shen on the bridge was one of the best sniper sequences in a game I've ever encountered.

I see this as just the opening moves in a much larger struggle. It's clear that in the Heavenly Sword story, there's more going on than just people looking for a magical sword. The raven lord is one faction at play, as is whoever made the heavenly sword. There'll likely be other factions. All in all they really made a good script here, one of the few cases where they managed to both have a self contained story with a satisfying end, and leave a lot of room open for sequels.


Anyone have sales data on this? I rented it, so the devs still got some of my money. I just couldn't buy it due to the length, but I hope it sold well enough for there to be more content made.

Well that's the reason I bought it, they put a lot of effort into it, and I'm pretty sure they were aware of the length but didn't want to try the please the crowd if they couldn't do it effectively or w/out making the game more repetitive.

[Dark Slayer120]

Dude, just passed the game. It's friggin' awesome and I loved watching the cutscenes. I was trippin' out when Kai starts getting a flashback and then Fox shows up. When she started screaming I was like, daaaammmnn, I hope he doesn't skewer her or somethin'. I was all into that part.
I felt that all the levels were very well designed, just one gripe is that some parts were just WAY too short. The integration and transitioning of the melee/shooter levels were really well done.
As for the actual combat, I never found it to be repetitive nor simple, and it wasn't all that easy to get through. I had to try three times against whiptail, fox (second time fighting), and had to retry two parts of the fight with Bohan, the first and third parts to be exact. Returning his blasts was reminiscent of Ocarina of Time vs. Ganondorf, and the whole three-part fight was really cool. One crazy thing happened at the very last part of the fight. We were trading blows, and I chucked him into the catapult ship and into the building, reflecting shots, he kinda kept kicking my ass when it was straight up melee fighting. I got all his health down, and I was barely hanging in, then I messed up on reflecting a blue blast and I died. The whole atmosphere and the fact that it went down to the line made me actually love the fact that I died, since I got even more into it. Thus on my next attempt, I pretty much whooped his ass ;D


Now I can't wait for a second installment >_< I really hope they bring Nariko back, and I can't see Kai wielding the sword, seeing as how it would just kill her in the end and obviously that sorta thing would make a second HS more redundant. If anything, I'd see Nariko "inside" Kai and more involvement of the goddess/Raven King, as well as a new protaganist to kick some ass assisting Kai ;D
I honestly can see this like a Star Wars thing in the fact that there is a power struggle/attempt to acquire dominance with the sacrifice of some Key Characters, gone in physical form but not in spirit.


Damn... you died at whip tail? 3 times... :shock: Lol wow she is the easiest boss of them all. Can you explain to me what you had trouble against fox the 2nd time. I have heard of a few people having to re try this battle and I really don't understand why. I thought the game was rather easy myself, I died 3 times in the entire game. Two was at the start of the game getting used to the motion controls with the cannons because I ran out of time. The other was because I shot Shen with Kai, when I was suppose to be protecting him lol. That was it I never had to do a boss battle more then once, which is why I am asking about flying fox 2nd battle. I never found the game play repettive either, which is a good thing. I agree with you on the levels/cut scenes being great and also about some of the levels being way to short as well. Yeah the Kai and fox thing was one of the best parts of the game. I was really into that as well. I was pissed off like a mother fucker when I thought he hung Kai. Watching him toss her over like that with the noose around her neck and hearing that snap my heart sank. I literally yelled YOU MOTHER FUCKER YOU KILLED KAI!!! thankfully my girl was alive with the quote "peek a boo ass hole" :applause: I really thought I wasn't going to like Kai, I thought she was going to be like the side kick on Blood will tell which if you never played it she is annoying as hell.

Ha ha yeah returning Bohans projectiles really reminded me of that battle in OOT. Which it found a special place in my heart as well. I actually had Bohan move once while returning the fury of projectiles I stopped and was like wtf you Ganondorf now eh? :lol: I heard of people having difficulty with this battle as well, but really you just take everything you learned through out the game and use it here. For this gen it is definitely my favorite boss battle thus far, and it's in my top 10 of all time boss battles as well. I think why I never had any trouble during the game play is because I love to counter, and that is what this game focuses on is counter and attacking. Especially for the bosses, you can spam button presses through the whole game but some bosses you need to counter and attack. The integration and transitioning of the melee/shooter levels were really well done. I definitely agree with that man, it really helped keep the game play fresh by doing this. They probably will bring Nariko back somehow, since the sword brought her back once it can do it again, however as long as they do it in a good way I am okay with. Snce Nariko is my favorite video game heroine of all time. I would like to see her sexi ass back in HS2.

"So it was your master who turned you into a slit faced psycho? Ohhh it's so much better when you're angry! ;)


http://youtube.com/watch?v=g8moLnPIvs4

[w1r3d]

just finished it. i'm glad i bought this game, not selling it either. it's just too good. i loved all the characters - bohan has to be one of the coolest bad guys in any game/movie. totally fell in love with nariko/kai <3

[mykevermin]

Played through chapter 2 and early chapter 3 tonight. There is very little more satisfying than a perfect headshot with Kai's arrows. The "save Shen" level was incredible fun. The character reaction to being hit in different body parts (such as the inadvertent shot in the calf/ankle or, praise jebus, an arrow right in the groin) was a welcome surprise as well.

On the other hand, the whiptail fight had very good narrative, but the battle itself was not so good - her defenses were weaker than the typical grunts with shields!

I'm *really* digging this game, and have a slightly different perspective on it from the "it's too short" crowd. It is too short, but I think that where it suffers is not in overall hours playable, but that the "levels" or chapter segments are too brief overall. It's forgiving if you like short play sessions and frequent checkpoints, but just when a level gets exciting, it's over.

The inevitable sequel short have:
longer levels/distance between checkpoints
a longer overall game
less linear level design (not entirely, but somewhat)
more difficult boss battles (somewhere b/w what exists now and the Ninja Gaiden difficulty)
decrease the spam-ability of enemies and bosses

This is absolutely a game I'll find myself playing again down the line.

[SteveMcQ]

I totally sucked at the first Kai level. I think I got a grand total of 8 enemies. I wish they had the same option as Warhawk of adjusting the motion control settings as it seems the game registers motion based on the controller being level with the ground.

[Vanigan]

You can turn off the motion controls for aftertouch in the options menu, allows you to use the analog stick.

[Dark Slayer120]

You can turn off the motion controls for aftertouch in the options menu, allows you to use the analog stick.

The motion controls work better IMO. Also I didn't like this mission either. At least the shooting part with Kai, I still can't do it very well.

[SteveMcQ]

You can turn off the motion controls for aftertouch in the options menu, allows you to use the analog stick.I know that, I just haven't gotten used to it. It just feels very akward tilting the controller in this game. Feels ok with Warhawk, though.

[Inf^Shini]

The main Reason I died against whiptail was b/c I didn't figure out that you had to use a specific range attack to nullify each of her wave attacks, so that caused a lot of damage :/.
Fox was a bigger pain in the ass when he started making copies of himself, but once I got used to the game, I was able to take the clones down a lot more easily and remembered to save the pots for when I actually needed them.
The first Kai mission annoyed the heck outta me the first go-around, but now I can safely say it's a fun level since I'm used to the motion controls now.
I got at least 10 HS in a row ;o
Oh btw, nobody has seemed to mention it, but shooting the enemy in the ass is hella fun too, the way they jump up and down is hilarious. "I'mma get that gun and I'mma get that money Jake...*BAM!*...sonuvabitch! Shot me in the ass!"

[Dark Slayer120]

The main Reason I died against whiptail was b/c I didn't figure out that you had to use a specific range attack to nullify each of her wave attacks, so that caused a lot of damage :/.
Fox was a bigger pain in the ass when he started making copies of himself, but once I got used to the game, I was able to take the clones down a lot more easily and remembered to save the pots for when I actually needed them.
The first Kai mission annoyed the heck outta me the first go-around, but now I can safely say it's a fun level since I'm used to the motion controls now.
I got at least 10 HS in a row ;o
Oh btw, nobody has seemed to mention it, but shooting the enemy in the ass is hella fun too, the way they jump up and down is hilarious. "I'mma get that gun and I'mma get that money Jake...*BAM!*...sonuvabitch! Shot me in the ass!"

Yeah my friend told me that is why he had trouble with fox was because of all the copies. I said oh shit when he started making copies but ironically only two at a time attacked, the others just stood their while I killed the other copies lol. So it was really easy for me to counter their ass and kill them off quickly. I still don't like that first Kai mission, I can already tell it's going to be a pain for me to get all three glyphs on that level. I'll save it for last.

[crunchb3rry]

I totally sucked at the first Kai level. I think I got a grand total of 8 enemies.
Lol, same here. The aim speed is too slow. You can't lead your shots well when you can't even keep a bead on an enemy because he runs faster than your crosshair moves. I think the game is designed for Kai to aim like shit...to force you to use SUXASSIS controls or the analog to manually tweak the bolt's flight path.

[Inf^Shini]

Lol, same here. The aim speed is decent, but slow if zooming in. You can't lead your shots well when you can't even keep a bead on an enemy because he runs faster than your crosshair moves. I think the game is designed for Kai to aim like this...to force you to use SIXAXIS controls or the analog to manually tweak the bolt's flight path.
Fixed for typos.
It obviously encourages the use of Aftertouch, but I have been able to nail enemies without having to use that, it's just a lot more accurate and having the satisfation that you just hit your target.

[Dark Slayer120]

:applause:

A much better read.

[Thomas96]

HALO3 9 hours, Stranglehold 6 hours... is HS really so short and not worth it... [when you put it in perspective]

[furyk]

HALO3 9 hours, Stranglehold 6 hours... is HS really so short and not worth it... [when you put it in perspective]

The thing about Halo 3 though is that the multiplayer aspect of the game is huge.

I beat the game about a week ago and I was pretty disappointed by it. Beyond the length, the battle system just felt wonky. While I did enjoy the Sixaxis parts quite a bit, the whole sit and wait system is incredibly unsatisfying especially when you've got a game like Ninja Gaiden Sigma sitting next door. Coupled with the really lame hat puzzles and mediocre boss fights, I just was really let down with the majority of the game.

I really don't know what HS 2 could do to make me like it more. Perhaps giving us a bit more variety to the standard battles and alternative paths so it gives me a bit more of a reason to head back rather then unlocking sketches.

[SteveMcQ]

Then again Halo has an endless MP aspect. But I'm gonna guess HS has the far superior story sequences and storyline (from what I can tell of it so far). I like shorter games anyway. I don't have time to put into long games anymore.

[Thomas96]

Halo gets a plus due to MP, but you do pay extra for that aspect.. story mode... IS the game... essentially.

[Corvin]

Halo gets a plus due to MP, but you do pay extra for that aspect.. story mode... IS the game... essentially.

How exactly do you pay extra for MP? I pay $60 for Halo 3 I get a 10 hour campaign and a 100+ hour MP mode included.

I pay $60 for Heavenly Sword and get a 7 hour game with little replay value.

Don't get me wrong, HS is the best game I've played on the PS3, but not worth sixty bones.

[Thomas96]

How exactly do you pay extra for MP? I pay $60 for Halo 3 I get a 10 hour campaign and a 100+ hour MP mode included.

I pay $60 for Heavenly Sword and get a 7 hour game with little replay value.

Don't get me wrong, HS is the best game I've played on the PS3, but not worth sixty bones.


you have to pay to go online dont you... that's where most of the MP is experienced..

[Dark Slayer120]

HALO3 9 hours, Stranglehold 6 hours... is HS really so short and not worth it... [when you put it in perspective]

Dude just stop while your ahead seriously.

[Thomas96]

Dude just stop while your ahead seriously.


why because you say so.. or because I should be affraid of others not agreeing with me... BEGONE!

[edit] since we in a HS threat... LEAVE ME! lol

[Dark Slayer120]

why because you say so.. or because I should be affraid of others not agreeing with me... BEGONE!
No because You flail on your keyboard like there's bugs on it you are trying to squash.


:rofl:

[Thomas96]

No because You flail on your keyboard like there's bugs on it you are trying to squash.


:rofl:


reduced to a strell fanboy... I thought better of you.. I really did. oh well... that's that.

[Inf^Shini]

reduced to a strell fanboy... I thought better of you.. I really did. oh well... that's that. We're just trying to "calm things down" you could say, before this turns into a big ole' debaccle that pretty much goes nowhere with everyone flinging chairs to boogers :P
Besides, he said it with humor, not trying to put you down harshly or anything, at least, I don't think so ;)

I really don't think Halo 3 and Heavenly Sword are a good match for compare/contrast, lets just replace Halo 3 with Ninja Gaiden and we can have a healthy debate :D

[The Mana Knight]

I don't have time to put into long games anymore.Agreed.
you have to pay to go online dont you... that's where most of the MP is experienced..You have a point.
We're just trying to "calm things down" you could say, before this turns into a big ole' debaccle that pretty much goes nowhere with everyone flinging chairs to boogers :P

I really don't think Halo 3 and Heavenly Sword are a good match for compare/contrast, lets just replace Halo 3 with Ninja Gaiden and we can have a healthy debate :DAgreed.

I still need HS, but I'm waiting to see how things look after I pay off my slim PSP and a PS2 game this week.

[Thomas96]

We're just trying to "calm things down" you could say, before this turns into a big ole' debaccle that pretty much goes nowhere with everyone flinging chairs to boogers :P
Besides, he said it with humor, not trying to put you down harshly or anything, at least, I don't think so ;)

I really don't think Halo 3 and Heavenly Sword are a good match for compare/contrast, lets just replace Halo 3 with Ninja Gaiden and we can have a healthy debate :D

my bad.. I'm calm.. cause when I start speaking my mind..then the damn board gets shut down. I don't want people to say HS, isn't worth a dime because its shorter than HALO 3 which is only about 9 hours long plus online features you basically have to pay for to unlock. But... I digress. HS is a good game, not as long as everything else, but when put in perspective... its right there with other games. once again... I digress.

[w1r3d]

HS's story is almost like an epic movie. I would replay it just to "see the movie" again.

I agree, it is short. But seriously, lots of games get boring when they try to stretch the story for no reason.


A sequel to HS would be awesome but I guess risky. If they did something with Kai.... would be too good =)

[Corvin]

you have to pay to go online dont you... that's where most of the MP is experienced..

Fair enough, but SRP equal about $4 a month(cheaper if you are a CAG) and that is to play EVERY game online, not just Halo.

[mykevermin]

:shock:

What an ending! Best game ending since FFX, IMO.

I hate losing all these characters since it suggests we won't see them in sequels, although who knows how writers might bring them back. I demand more Bohan, Kai, Nariko, and Roach (necessary for the strange interaction between he and Bohan).

[Dark Slayer120]

Lol strell fanboy....

[Dark Slayer120]

:shock:

What an ending! Best game ending since FFX, IMO.

I hate losing all these characters since it suggests we won't see them in sequels, although who knows how writers might bring them back. I demand more Bohan, Kai, Nariko, and Roach (necessary for the strange interaction between he and Bohan).
A great game indeed, the best on PS3 thus far.

[SteveMcQ]

The cut-scenes are ridiculously awesome. Please tell me there's a cinema-mode to watch them at my leisure:

Very early on in the game, I love the part where Bohan has Nariko cornered by the broken bridge with the Heavenly Sword, she yells in contempt and he mockingly yells back, stops abruptly, and gives the order to kill her. The facial animations were so great.

[mykevermin]

A great game indeed, the best on PS3 thus far.

The characters are amazingly well developed. Roach asking to take the newly-blinded Bohan back home, so meekly, was so sickening (how could he revere such an asshole, even IF it is his father?) and touching (face it, Roach is a character you empathized with and really felt more pangs of regret fighting than the stage where you fought your clan members) at the same time. Just incredible stuff.

It has promise. It's great in some spots, repetitive in others, a touch short (not enough to spurn the outrage it gets and, say, Stranglehold strangely avoided). Much like the Tony Hawk series matured over time into a strong series (well, up until 4, at any rate), I see this as a great foundation on which to build future platformers. It ain't perfect, but it does many things so well that I'm glad to see that this is what comes out in the console's first year.

I loved the sixaxis' use in the game so much (and I *hated* it so far otherwise, save for fl0w) that I'm looking forward to getting Lair from Gamefly this week. Laugh if you want (and I may join you once I get a chance to play it), but HS made me anticipate using the sixaxis to play Lair. Time will tell, of course.

[furyk]

I think that Stranglehold avoided most of the short game outrage simply because HS was supposed to be the PS3's highest profile game of the year. While never touted as a Halo killer, I'm certain that many people hoped it was.

Without going back into my HS bashing too much, I think the sixaxis parts (on rails or stationary, fuck the whole run around and hide bullshit) were the most entertaining parts of the game. While it took some time to get used to, it's a pretty easy system to get into. My only complaint with it is that it makes no sense why when you're shooting something far away (especially during the catapult levels) it becomes easier, not harder to hit something. I'd really like to see that reversed or at very least rebalanced in the sequel.

[Inf^Shini]

I felt that they should have extended the arena part more for Nariko's side.

I'm up to the bridge part in Hell mode, so far the noticeable changes are: faster enemy attacks, you take more damage, enemies require more hits to take down, timer is a lot shorter for the first cannon level.

[mykevermin]

I think that Stranglehold avoided most of the short game outrage simply because this was supposed to be the PS3's highest profile game of the year. While never touted as a Halo killer, I'm certain that many people hoped it was.

Without going back into my HS bashing too much, I think the sixaxis parts (on rails or stationary, fuck the whole run around and hide bullshit) were the most entertaining parts of the game. While it took some time to get used to, it's a pretty easy system to get into. My only complaint with it is that it makes no sense why when you're shooting something far away (especially during the catapult levels) it becomes easier, not harder to hit something. I'd really like to see that reversed or at very least rebalanced in the sequel.

Yes. The aftertouch idea is nice, but including a bit of gravity into the equation should make it a little less forgiving. I liked those parts a great deal, but it felt a bit cheap to be able to make a cannonball rise in midair. If you merged the sixaxis with a constant slow gravitational pull, it would make those elements more difficult.

[Dark Slayer120]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vWjyfqp_ZBk&mode=related&search=

[Psykodelik]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vWjyfqp_ZBk&mode=related&search=

Haha I love that video. It's funny to see the player not know where to shoot and then misses twice in a row to hit the fireworks. PEACHES!

[w1r3d]

^Haha, I love Kai. I loved the expression(s) on her face when she was talking to Nariko and had that bird + worm in her hands, just eager for Nariko to shut up so she could eat, hahaha

[imascrub]

hmmm...after reading some of your comments about the game...i wonder if i should get the game after all :-k

I have a little bit of credit left at FYE...not sure if I should use it for Heavenly Sword, or wait for one of either.... Folklore, Assassin's Creed, Uncharted...or even hold out till next year's games hit (DMC4, Soul Calibur 4, Lil Big Planet, or MGS4)...

[Vanigan]

Just to reiterate. The only major downside to Heavenly Sword is the length, that's pretty much it.

Gameplay, story, characters, graphics, etc... all are very good.

[Corvin]

Just to reiterate. The only major downside to Heavenly Sword is the length, that's pretty much it.

Gameplay, story, characters, graphics, etc... all are very good.

What he said.

[Rei no Otaku]

:shock:

What an ending! Best game ending since FFX, IMO.

I wouldn't say that. Metal Gear Solid 3's ending pretty much destroys every video game ending out there.

[Inf^Shini]

I wouldn't say that. Metal Gear Solid 3's ending pretty much destroys every video game ending out there.

Yea, when it comes to storyline and the impact of the ending, MGS3 comes out on top, and I mean waaayyy top. I think that was the one and only time I felt depressed after passing a game, haha.

[Dark Slayer120]

Yea, when it comes to storyline and the impact of the ending, MGS3 comes out on top, and I mean waaayyy top. I think that was the one and only time I felt depressed after passing a game, haha.

MGS3 ending was good, but there are a few games that hold up well to it IMO. SOTC, ICO, and HS are very close to being better if not just as good as MGS3 IMO.



Haha I love that video. It's funny to see the player not know where to shoot and then misses twice in a row to hit the fireworks. PEACHES!

Lol Massive damage FTW. As for the player I found it funny to he goes to high at first then to low I was thinking c'mon buddy you can do it lol... MONKEY


^Haha, I love Kai. I loved the expression(s) on her face when she was talking to Nariko and had that bird + worm in her hands, just eager for Nariko to shut up so she could eat, hahaha


Same here man, Kai is fucking awesome, she is probably my favorite side kick ever, next to Argo from SOTC of course. ;)

hmmm...after reading some of your comments about the game...i wonder if i should get the game after all :-k

I have a little bit of credit left at FYE...not sure if I should use it for Heavenly Sword, or wait for one of either.... Folklore, Assassin's Creed, Uncharted...or even hold out till next year's games hit (DMC4, Soul Calibur 4, Lil Big Planet, or MGS4)...

You really should get it now. It is seriously the best game on the PS3 right now IMO. If you love action games with a great story and humor you'll love this game.


Just to reiterate. The only major downside to Heavenly Sword is the length, that's pretty much it.

Gameplay, story, characters, graphics, etc... all are very good.

QFT!

[Draekon]

Finished the game yesterday and I have to say it was great, especially the facial expressions and the voice acting with it. Just wish it wasn't so short. >_<

[Rei no Otaku]

MGS3 ending was good, but there are a few games that hold up well to it IMO. SOTC, ICO, and HS are very close to being better if not just as good as MGS3 IMO.

Don't get me wrong, the endings to those 3 games were great. But I have yet to see any game ending that has had the emotional impact of MGS3's. Just The Boss and her motives alone made that ending amazing.

[Dark Slayer120]

Don't get me wrong, the endings to those 3 games were great. But I have yet to see any game ending that has had the emotional impact of MGS3's. Just The Boss and her motives alone made that ending amazing.

I don't know I thought SOTC and HS were both up there emotional wise as well as MGS3.

I mean wandering dying like that after all the shit he went through hit me really hard. It was a really sad ending IMO. Hell even when Argo fell and "died" made me misty eyed as well. I was glad to see him return though at the end. It's really funny how a game with virtually no voice overs can get you so attached to the characters. Heavenly Sword with Nariko dying and then being reborn and then dying again made me very sad as well. In any case all three games I felt a strong bond with the characters and actually wanted everything to turn out okay for them, which in this case none of them did. I guess we can all agree those three games are all three AAA games and are must haves.

[furyk]

Heavenly Sword having a good ending? Really? Maybe it's just because the final boss battle was so bad, but the ending did nothing for me at all.

[whoknows]

I think that Stranglehold avoided most of the short game outrage simply because this was supposed to be the PS3's highest profile game of the year.
Stranglehold, really?

I'd think Ratchet, Uncharted, Unreal, Haze, or others would be called the PS3's high profile game of the year way before Stranglehold would.

[postaboy]

my blockbuster is whack! They don't have HS in stock. I have been visiting BB every day to check if they have it. Do I need to tell them to get it?

[furyk]

Stranglehold, really?

I'd think Ratchet, Uncharted, Unreal, Haze, or others would be called the PS3's high profile game of the year way before Stranglehold would.

Did I write that? I meant Heavenly Sword was supposed to be high profile game while Stranglehold was a somewhat anticipated multiplatform title without the same amount of pressure. Consider it edited.

Edit: "This" was supposed to refer to HS.

[Dark Slayer120]

Heavenly Sword having a good ending? Really? Maybe it's just because the final boss battle was so bad, but the ending did nothing for me at all.


To each their own then. I loved the ending and the final boss battle with Bohan.

[mykevermin]

Edit: "This" was supposed to refer to HS.

Oh. I misread it also. Now it makes much more sense.

[whoknows]

Did I write that? I meant Heavenly Sword was supposed to be high profile game while Stranglehold was a somewhat anticipated multiplatform title without the same amount of pressure. Consider it edited.

Edit: "This" was supposed to refer to HS.
Now it makes more sense :-P

[coolz481]

Just beat it on normal difficulty. I loved the Bohan battle, now that I finally beat him and timed those bolt attacks just right! Definitely worth the price - it's amazing that we got an action/adventure game of this quality only 10 months into the lifespan of the PS3 and we've got Folklore, Ratchet & Clank Future, and Uncharted all in the next two months.

[Inf^Shini]

FYI, there are some Limited Edition HS skins for the PS3:
http://www.gamergraffix.com/promo.html?l=27


Anyone know anything about a release on the Heavenly Sword soundtrack or somethin?

Edit: Well I found a page that has some of the music ---> http://www.heavenly-sword.nl/?page_id=28

I REALLY hope they make an official release soundtrack, b/c the music IMO was well orchestrated

My Favorite track is the song played at the Title Screen of the Game, but I also enjoyed the ending credits music

[Rei no Otaku]

Oooo Gamer Grafix. They're from my hometown!

[dserafin1986]

This game's one of the best next gen games I've played yet...Great storytelling, fun gameplay...And I'm actually excited to be able to finish a game finally...I think developers need to realize that not every gamer has 40-50 hours to spend on a game...This is a must buy for those getting a PS3 in the next month, imo.

[w1r3d]

I think developers need to realize that not every gamer has 40-50 hours to spend on a game...

^agreed :applause:

[Thomas96]

good point.. this game could have been longer, if they would have included backtracking, and silly go fetch puzzles... get key, then go here, go back there and go in one room to get one key, then back to area 3. I like the fact that it was like a movie, it has heavy action.

[Inf^Shini]

I still think they could have extended the arena section of the game :/

It would've been fun with more fights against Bohan's subordinates/underlings :D

*Thinks of Gladiator* "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!!"

[SteveMcQ]

Hopefully the next game has more interactive platforming elements like GoW. It gets pretty dull rolling through empty hallways and corridors. It looks pretty, for sure, but it's very anemic game design. The brief QTE moments when you scale certain pieces don't count either. Nice distraction, but they need to add more depth to the arena combat.

[Vanigan]

The QTE segment inputs need just a tiny bit more time to push the button though.

Also, I could do without the platforming. If I wanted a platformer I'd play Ratchet and Clank. I mean, think of God of War, one of the things people hated the most were all the insta-death platforming elements. It just seemed so wrong, not to mention frustrating, that a guy (or in this case a girl) with the power of a god has trouble walking along a narrow beam or jumping from one place to another.

I do, however, agree that there could be another game mechanic in there. Perhaps some other puzzle mechanic to break up the fights that doesn't involve throwing shields. Or some other combat type.

[SteveMcQ]

The QTE segment inputs need just a tiny bit more time to push the button though.

Also, I could do without the platforming. If I wanted a platformer I'd play Ratchet and Clank. I mean, think of God of War, one of the things people hated the most were all the insta-death platforming elements. It just seemed so wrong, not to mention frustrating, that a guy (or in this case a girl) with the power of a god has trouble walking along a narrow beam or jumping from one place to another.

I do, however, agree that there could be another game mechanic in there. Perhaps some other puzzle mechanic to break up the fights that doesn't involve throwing shields. Or some other combat type.Now that you mention it, I did hate the insta-death platforming parts of GoW. The puzzle solving elements need to be beefed up. And by that I don't mean having to ricochet a helmet discuss off of three or four gongs. They've got such an intricately detailed world and characters that it's a bit jarring to have really dull puzzles.

And more Kai shooting. The part where she has to save Shen on the bridge was hella fun. A very enjoyable fish in the barrel situation.

[Vanigan]

And I suppose that's the problem. The QTE segments don't work for long stretches of gameplay.

Especially if the button press timings are so short. If you have to focus on the button press area that intensely to make sure you don't miss a button press, you actually miss out on the cool animations and fight scenes.

For QTE segments, I'd actually prefer a rythmic series of button presses as opposed to single presses. These rythms appear well ahead of the actual action that'll be performed, you just press the buttons through the segment, and how well you do determines the outcome of the animation. This way, a player can both feel like he's participating in these QTE segments, but still be able to watch the fight unfold.

[Corvin]

I think developers need to realize that not every gamer has 40-50 hours to spend on a game...This is a must buy for those getting a PS3 in the next month, imo.

I can't argue with that, but I can argue that a 6 hour game is a joke, which is on the opposite side of your 50 hour exaggeration. That's $10 an hour.

The game is a must own title, but not at $10 an hour.

[Dark Slayer120]

If HS was 10hrs that would of been the perfect length IMO.

[Corvin]

I'd agree. 10 hours or about $40 as is.

[w1r3d]

the quality of this game ALONE is worth the money.

i mean seriously, this game is a LOT better than a lot of the crap that gets put out there for the same price. if it was longer ppl would still complain about something. ppl would be like "oh 10 hours is too short" etc etc. -_-

[Serpentor]

I got the game for $46 so i can't complaint, it's a great game for that price, period! I mean, i got GoW2 for $40... so $6 more is pretty good.

I agree with the button pressing thing missing out the movie... There were a number of time i "game overed" on purpose just to watch the movie.

Just beat the first boss flying fox), oh boy, he's gay... , love the game so far... i'm taking my time enjoy it rather than focusing on beating it. The artwork is gorgeous, can't wait to unlock all of the pictures!