Super CAG Fighter Thread XXIIII - The New Challengers Turbo [Mobile/Archive]

RelentlessRolento

03-07-2007, 09:48 PM

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7962/msuperstreetfighteriithtq1.jpg

Welcome to Cag Fighter Thread XXIIII, aka How I Learned to stop worrying and Love RelentlessRolento.

:lol: seems like I have people act like that towards me all the time :)

on the debate of VF vs. Tekken:

let's set it up like Tekken and VF are sports in the real world...

VF is like golf; strategic well placed shots with a ton of training needed. still good but obviously to a specific crowd.

Tekken is like basketball; everyone can pick it up in minutes but it takes time to get good at, has alot of flare, etc.

i doubt i'm clear, but who gives a bohemian rat cage about it.

also,for the EVO trip in may, I still don't know what's going on, but if I sell some games I designed this month at my school's art show I'll probably be good to go since some of my bills will be payed off.

lastly, we need to get back into playing gears of war or uno... I miss that social time where everyone decides to pick on me.

p.s. I need to change my avatar sometime back to bryan fury... post good pics of him sometime (mainly looking for headshots).

Apossum

03-07-2007, 10:00 PM

Good comparison. that makes perfect sense.

Chacrana

03-07-2007, 10:16 PM

Jimbo Slice

03-07-2007, 10:18 PM

Decent analogy, but I don't know. I feel like it's almost cliche to say "VF is more in depth, Tekken is easier to learn". I don't know that it's even necessarily true, I just feel like since it's less flashy, people think it's more technical. I understand and appreciate high-level VF play, but I also understand and appreciate all the hard work, training and intangibles that go into high level Tekken play.

To me, it's more like apples to oranges. They have enough similarities to be categorized together, but enough differences to appeal to entirely different crowds. Also, someone can be a fan of both apples and oranges, but they generally have a preference.

But yeah, 3 notes about DR PS3:

1) Does anyone else get a weird sort of haze on certain maps? I'm running it in 1080i and on certain stages, such as the 5.0 version of secret garden, or the 5.0 version of Moonlight Wilderness, it is a bit fuzzy. Dunno what's up with that.

2) I have experienced slowdown twice. Once while hitting Roger JR w/ J5's DF+2 on Poolside Paradise (5.0 version) and another time while fitting Panda (also w/ J5).

3) My J5 is finally Dark Lord. Final Record (I won't be playing Ghost battle w/ him anymore) is 260 and 11. Next up is Kaz I think., Maybe Heihachi.

Jimbo Slice

03-07-2007, 10:20 PM

What a segue from that last post in the other thread. Oh, and honestly, the legitimacy of the roman numerals "XXIIII" is greater than anything I've done so far. I salute you.
Hmm... these last couple of threads have flown by really, really quickly.

HAHAHA. I didn't even realize. I'm so damn tired but I have to wait for Lost to be on so I'm in a bit of daze. I'm certainly not going to change it at this point, although I feel kinda stupid haha :-#

Like I said though, to 1337 to change.

new tattoo tomorrow..... yay!

kainzero

03-07-2007, 11:33 PM

that tekken vs. vf article is so crappy. you can tell when you read that tekken has dial-a-combos comparable to killer instinct. lolz.

i don't like debating that either has more depth. they're both fun and they both have completely different elements about them. vf seems to exhaust my mind more, but tekken has a bigger emphasis on controlling space.

i think they're both easy to pick up too. i don't like it when people think vf is soooo hard to get into. the training mode is daunting, but if you just pick it up and play and experiment, you still learn a lot. the only thing that might seem more difficult is that it's easier to see frame advantage/disadvantage in tekken. i don't know why, but it is. maybe it's because in tekken, when you hit people sparks and blood come out and the animations are more distinct. that's my guess.

Rodimus

03-08-2007, 12:06 AM

Tekken is the superior game, Virtua Fighter has no style at all, nor any likable characters... however, let's continue that discussion here!

What do you consider is "style?"

Jimbo Slice

03-08-2007, 12:36 AM

What do you consider is "style?"

Style in this instance meaning character design... it's like the creators were like, let's have generic karate guy, generic american(spikey hair,flamboyant style), generic black dude(big, muscular, seemingly unintelligent), generic ninja, generic old man, generic wrestler, generic monk character, generic oriental girl... That's just my opinion though, you're welcome to disagree.

DomLando

03-08-2007, 12:40 AM

Tag

Darkside Hazuki

03-08-2007, 01:10 AM

Rodimus

03-08-2007, 01:11 AM

Jimbo Slice

03-08-2007, 01:28 AM

"Style" shouldn't be limited to character design. I think gameplay is a larger part.

I agree, but I don't really think that Virtua Fighter dominates that category either. Maybe because I haven't had the chance to actively participate in high level VF play.

Either way, IMO Tekken > VF, but feel free to differ. To each his own.

3s > Tekken + VF anyway

MarkMan

03-08-2007, 01:32 AM

Getting Heihachi to Dark Lord should be the easiest :)

d+1,2 all day...

That's too bad cause VF is a much better game.

Regarding this... I won't deny it. I feel 100% that VF has a better 3D fighting game system. But still. Who plays that shit? That's my major gripe.

I posted about something similar earlier this year.... It went something like this....

I'm a Tekken player and fan... probably one of the most hardcore Tekken nuts out there... I've played VF since VF2 and actually read up and tried to learn the game(mostly played with VF4 and VF4 EVO)... I even got a few of my friends to start playing here...

While I'm tried and true a die hard Tekken fan til' I die... I can tell the polish and shine put into VF... it's an amazing game and it does SO MUCH that I wish Tekken would have. I think one thing for sure... Tekken is much easier to get into... easier to teach, easier to learn... and for me, easier to enjoy. It's simple yes. Does it feel rewarding? Depends... I live in an area where competition for this game is ENDLESS... we have one of the biggest crews around and we're always willing to play.

But for VF... I don't have that luxury... but I LOVE watching/trying things out... I really hope VF5 blows up over here so that more and more people can experience the game and not nominate shit like Mortal Kombat Armageddon and Smackdown vs Raw for fighting games of the year.... T.T ...

I'll be going to Japan sometime this year and one of the main reasons I'm going is to watch/play Tekken and other games at arcades in Japan....

I'm sure the experience there will be much better than it is over here....

Here's to hoping that 2007 doesn't only bring the games... it' brings the players..

Rodimus

03-08-2007, 01:40 AM

I agree, but I don't really think that Virtua Fighter dominates that category either. Maybe because I haven't had the chance to actively participate in high level VF play.

Either way, IMO Tekken > VF, but feel free to differ. To each his own.

3s > Tekken + VF anyway

VF would be more fun if more people played it (or it was online). But I blame the learning curve. My opinion isn't to far from yours:

3s > VF > Tekken

However I didn't add KOF to that equation.

kristianator

03-08-2007, 01:44 AM

tmnt: tf > all

Jimbo Slice

03-08-2007, 01:46 AM

They weren't generic back in '93. It's all a matter of perspective.

Ehh, Tekken was released just a year later and certainly has had it's characters age much better. I think this due largely to the fact that the characters develop in looks as the series went on, whereas with Virtua Fighter the characters look pretty much the same with much more pretty costumes and graphics (w/ a few exceptions, such as Lau).

For example:

Jeffrey from VF1:
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/542/1068171536pf0.jpg
Jeffrey from VF4:
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6534/character1fx2.th.jpg

Kazuya from T1:
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7285/kazuyavskingmi5.th.jpg
Kazuya from T5:DR:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4517/kazuya5yy6.jpg

(Sorry couldn't find any good Akira pics, or a decent pic of Jeffrey from VF5. Hope it still articulates my point.)

edit: didn't realize the pics were so small. Oh well.

MarkMan

03-08-2007, 01:55 AM

I honestly think that the learning curve for VF compared to other games isn't that bad.

Sure the game is deep, but most games played nowadays at high competitive levels have enough depth/know how... I think VF5 is a lot easier to get into compared to 4/EVO/FT... It helps that throw breaking is easier now too and more user friendly with the throw clash system.

RelentlessRolento

03-08-2007, 01:58 AM

VF would be more fun if more people played it (or it was online). But I blame the learning curve. My opinion isn't to far from yours:

3s > VF > Tekken

However I didn't add KOF to that equation.

I still say 2d fighters should not be compared to 3d. that's treading dangerous waters.

one thing that may fix alot of VF problems is one thing: make the damn story important! People are attached to ryu, yes cuz his moves are neato, but he's a wandering warrior who has a millionare best friend and is battling an inner deamon tot take him over... kazuya has a fucked up family and has been possesed by the devil thus screwing his entire family and everyone in the figthing tournament... Kage has, um, Dural.

PatFortenbaugh

03-08-2007, 01:59 AM

that tekken vs. vf article is so crappy. you can tell when you read that tekken has dial-a-combos comparable to killer instinct. lolz.

hit people sparks and blood come out and the animations are more distinct. that's my guess.

this man is trippin

kristianator

03-08-2007, 02:04 AM

tekken needs some dude yelling ULLLLLLLTRAAAAAA ULTTRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA after long ass combos

asianxcore

03-08-2007, 02:15 AM

tmnt: tf > all

Long live Wingnut and Shredder. Is it bad that I owned that game for SNES?

RelentlessRolento

03-08-2007, 02:22 AM

Long live Wingnut and Shredder. Is it bad that I owned that game for SNES?

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/profiles/wingnut.gif

Rodimus

03-08-2007, 02:45 AM

I honestly think that the learning curve for VF compared to other games isn't that bad.

Seriously I could master 3 - 4 fighters in Tekken quicker than I could master 1 in VF. But that doesn't mean the game is better. I'm still training with Akira.

Akira's G+K (release G after one frame) is freaking mindblowing to prefrom. Anyone got tips one this.?

sblymnlcrymnl

03-08-2007, 03:34 AM

VF is superior.

MarkMan

03-08-2007, 04:27 AM

What would you say is 'mastering' a character? I mean, I don't think anyone can say they can 'master' any character in a fighting game... what you can do everyone's moves or something is that it?

The only way you can find out if you're GOOD with a character is by either stomping up some competition, even then, that won't help much unless you can compare it to everyone else.

Honestly I can do anything/everything with any character in VF/Tekken... all it takes is some practice, and that is it. Using them in gameplay is where it matters IMO. Just train... heck I can train with any character in Tekken, there is ALWAYS room for improvement.

As far as Akira's K+G knee... just hit them together and slide/let go of the buttons ASAP... It's just something you need to get used to... on a good day I can perform it in combos.

BustaUppa

03-08-2007, 11:05 AM

lastly, we need to get back into playing gears of war or uno... ...or maybe Worms? :D

What's up y'all, nice new thread you got here!

This weekend I was at The Break again, for the first time since last May. It was quite refreshing! And oh man, those cheese steaks... they haven't missed a beat. An MK compatriot of mine was telling me about some arcade spot in NYC... part bar, part arcade, apparently called "Barcade" or something like that. Anyone familiar with it?

oh and lol at the pic in the first post. It was funny how they always insisted on putting some hideous American artwork on Street Fighter stuff, up until the Alpha games.

Midnite

03-08-2007, 12:41 PM

So, I finally picked up DOA4 the other night, so if anyone is looking for some easy wins then look me up on Live.

Darkside Hazuki

03-08-2007, 12:41 PM

Ehh, Tekken was released just a year later and certainly has had it's characters age much better. I think this due largely to the fact that the characters develop in looks as the series went on, whereas with Virtua Fighter the characters look pretty much the same with much more pretty costumes and graphics (w/ a few exceptions, such as Lau).

Didn't all the Tekken characters age 30 years (or something) between games?
Of course they have to look diffferent. It's part of the STORY.

Beyond the character descriptions in the manual, you wont find ANY story in VF. It's all about the fighting. And Suzuki's attempts to make it a realistic experience (floaty jumps not withstanding) preclude the use of feathery wings, laser beams, giant robots, panda bears and animated practice dummies.

Kazuya shirtless and Kazuya in a suit seems like a "pretty costume" change to me. :D

(This is all in good fun JF, I'm a Tekken fan as well.)

Rodimus

03-08-2007, 01:09 PM

...or maybe Worms? :D

We do need more Worms, and none of that 3D crap. Anyways back on topic:

Anyone ever play a Sega CD game "Revengers of Venegance?" It was a Fighting/RPG. I'm surprised the genre did take off more in the late - mid 90's.

Markman - When I mean master I guess to the point where I just feel comfortable. Can't really explain the feeling. I can say I've mastered Billy Kane (KOF 98), at least at one point I did.

BustaUppa

03-08-2007, 01:20 PM

We do need more Worms, and none of that 3D crap. Anyways back on topic:

Anyone ever play a Sega CD game "Revengers of Venegance?" It was a Fighting/RPG. I'm surprised the genre did take off more in the late - mid 90's.Did "JoJo's Bizarre Adventure" fall into that category? Or was JJBA more of a straight-up action title? I came close to buying that for Dreamcast a couple of times, but I never really knew enough about it.

What about Tobal? That's like a story-based RPG-ish fighter, right? I picked that up on a whim a while ago for a couple of bucks. Haven't played it yet but I've always heard good things about it. My PS1 backlog is ridiculous.

Apossum

03-08-2007, 01:27 PM

evilmax17

03-08-2007, 02:40 PM

Did "JoJo's Bizarre Adventure" fall into that category? Or was JJBA more of a straight-up action title? I came close to buying that for Dreamcast a couple of times, but I never really knew enough about it.
JJBA was a straight-up 2D figher with some neat mechanics. It can probably be found pretty cheap, and it wouldn't hurt to pick it up for < $10. Some neat characters too.

kristianator

03-08-2007, 05:57 PM

co-sign with markman on mastering characters.. a real measure of skill is how well you play your characters against other players. in high-level play, where strat is your focus, execution should be assumed to be 100% anyway.

that's why it's kinda intimidating when i fuck up in marvel at some tourneys, you start hearing the crowd yelling and giving you shit.. it's funny when you see it happen to other people, but it really throws off your game when it happens to you.

Rodimus

03-08-2007, 06:19 PM

Did "JoJo's Bizarre Adventure" fall into that category? Or was JJBA more of a straight-up action title? I came close to buying that for Dreamcast a couple of times, but I never really knew enough about it.

What about Tobal? That's like a story-based RPG-ish fighter, right? I picked that up on a whim a while ago for a couple of bucks. Haven't played it yet but I've always heard good things about it. My PS1 backlog is ridiculous.

The JoJo for Dreamcast is a strait up fighter. No RPG elements at all. I'm not sure about the PS2 cell-shaded JoJo's. It's a great fighter, I liked it so much I got into collecting the Manga. Apparently JoJo's was one of the most succesful and influencial Mangas in Japan.

Chacrana

03-08-2007, 08:59 PM

Tobal was more dungeon crawler/fighting. I'm not sure if Tobal 2 had an actual story but no.1 didn't. I love quest mode in that game, I still play it every once in a while :)

wish I could play Worms with you guys...no more 360 for me for the time being. Decided to sell it for my new LCD (arriving in 4 hours...can't fucking wait!) but I'll be back on in a few months, since I'm finally employing my ass :)

Yeah, I got my new monitor today. It's fucking beautiful. Seriously. I cannot believe that this is what my computer was trying to show me all along. It's so... perfect.

Oh, and I'll be on XBL tonight for the folks who have it :lol:

Ahadi

03-08-2007, 09:20 PM

So what is all this "I just got (insert Tekken Guy here) to Dark Lord" mean? Is that like, going back and playing through arcade mode again with the same character and they rank up?

RelentlessRolento

03-08-2007, 11:22 PM

So what is all this "I just got (insert Tekken Guy here) to Dark Lord" mean? Is that like, going back and playing through arcade mode again with the same character and they rank up?

basically yes.

it's like hitting the peak of everest with a certain character.

JEKKI

03-08-2007, 11:24 PM

co-sign with markman on mastering characters.. a real measure of skill is how well you play your characters against other players. and speaking of that, I just found out FFA arcade in SoCal is doing T5 DR ranbats~!!

it's not too far from me, and the next one or March 17!!

now I can see how good I am and learn a few things as well.

I think xiaoyu is top 5 in popularity there tho...

B:L

03-08-2007, 11:56 PM

and speaking of that, I just found out FFA arcade in SoCal is doing T5 DR ranbats~!!

it's not too far from me, and the next one or March 17!!

now I can see how good I am and learn a few things as well.

I think xiaoyu is top 5 in popularity there tho...So you go to FFA huh? Maybe I should dust off my controller and meet you there... ;)

The good Xiaoyu player there is JMS. Everyone basically has their own character, though, so popularity doesn't really matter.

Current results:
1st: Kane (Devil Jin)
2nd: Rip (Law)
3rd: YMR (Bruce)
4th: JMS (Xiaoyu)

asianxcore

03-09-2007, 02:18 AM

that's why it's kinda intimidating when i fuck up in marvel at some tourneys, you start hearing the crowd yelling and giving you shit.. it's funny when you see it happen to other people, but it really throws off your game when it happens to you.

Agreed. Regardless of how many people are at a said tournament, I always feel the pressure.

I know I don't have to play 100% perfect, but with so many people watching you, a part of you wants to impress/do your best. I throw a fit when I make stupid mistakes in CVS2 against regular people in arcades. It multiplies times 100 when I am playing the game in a tournament. Usually involves stuff about me beating myself up for not being patient, playing into someone's trap, etc etc..

It is always nice to have people come and give you positive comments on your play though. Makes the pressure you put on yourself feel sort of worth it.

Damn all this talk about Tekken DR for PS3. Stop making me want one guys.

RelentlessRolento

03-09-2007, 02:26 AM

if tourney people distract you, maybe bring some music to listen to or something... find something that gets you in the zone.

oh, finally official US boxart for Cardfighters DS:

http://www.snkplaymoreusa.com/images/prod_nav_card_fighters.jpg

also random searches turn up good things... go check this out:

http://game.snkplaymore.co.jp/download/index.php

Chacrana

03-09-2007, 08:43 PM

Hay guys... I have some new imports... wunder wut they mite b?

SilverPaw750

03-09-2007, 10:38 PM

When's cardfighters coming out finally?

RelentlessRolento

03-09-2007, 11:03 PM

When's cardfighters coming out finally?

supposedly april, but release dates mean nothing to SNK Playmore USA anymore...

also, just got back from 300... go see it, but not with a girl... testosterone city. I was so pumped after watching it.

Chacrana

03-09-2007, 11:23 PM

supposedly april, but release dates mean nothing to SNK Playmore USA anymore...

also, just got back from 300... go see it, but not with a girl... testosterone city. I was so pumped after watching it.

Lawl, like you'd go with a girl. :lol:

Kidding, Rolento. I saw the movie too and it was fucking fantastic. And I typically hate movies. Like fighting games? Go see this.

RelentlessRolento

03-10-2007, 12:21 AM

Lawl, like you'd go with a girl. :lol:

Higher chances of me going with a hand sized crab than a girl... >_<

Apossum

03-10-2007, 03:37 AM

A pic I took of my TV for an ad:

http://i10.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/91/37/478b_1.JPG

Lili looks like she just huffed gas.

RelentlessRolento

03-10-2007, 03:43 AM

A pic I took of my TV for an ad:

http://i10.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/91/37/478b_1.JPG

Lili looks like she just huffed gas.

while Dragunov gropes your screen quietly and lonely...

Ahadi

03-10-2007, 04:18 AM

I totally agree that 300 ruled.

And I learned today that I can only play through arcade mode in Tekken one time per sitting. Anything beyond that will only lead to either a broken a hand or controller or something. But I did get the one guy I'm "good" with to 6th Kyu. I seriously need to learn these guys names...

RelentlessRolento

03-10-2007, 04:22 AM

Ahadi

03-10-2007, 04:27 AM

if you don't know names, just post pictures of them and we can tell you who they are ;)

That won't work at all! How can I find a picture of something I don't know the name of! :lol: Naw, I'll post his name tomorrow when I decide to get my blood pumping... I mean play Tekken.

But seriously, the biggest mistake made with Tekken was not keeping your fighter's name in the top left corner under your life bar. As far as I'm concerned, all my fighters are named "Dtrain".

Jimbo Slice

03-10-2007, 05:29 AM

My computer is broken *tear*

It seriously got owned by a power surge (even though it was on a surge protector) so it's probably just the power source, but waiting for Claim Papers from my electric company sucks.

Anyway, Chacrana and the rest of the PC heads please check out the thread I'm about to post in PC gaming, and help me out. I'd appreciate it.

PS: I went out to dinner at like 2 AM tonight and some crazy ass dude got beat down by the cops and threw over a table, before getting maced twice and handcuffed right in front of us. Shit was SO crazy.

PPS: His pants fell down about halfway through his tussle with the 5 cops. I saw his naked ass haha.

PPPS: It sounds pretty gay but his Spatch hair was like down to his knees. That shit seriously had to be a Guinness record.

OT: Tekken Rulez d00dz!

MarkMan

03-10-2007, 05:34 AM

If you wanna rank up fast just get to first dan then play your same rank and win 3 in a row and you'll rank up. :)

Beginner - 1st dan = doesn't matter what rank you fight against as long as you keep winning you'll rank up.

http://sdtekken.com/t5dr/rankings/

:)

And shameless plug #100003498932

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8YIlldvVfk

JEKKI

03-10-2007, 05:35 AM

PS: I went out to dinner at like 2 AM tonight and some crazy ass dude got beat down by the cops and threw over a table, before getting maced twice and handcuffed right in front of us. Shit was SO crazy.dinner that late better be sum muhfuggin mexican food

or jack n the box... I guess...

I mean, 2am aint that late yet...

kristianator

03-10-2007, 05:52 AM

okay.. i just got back home from seeing 300 after MUCH anticipation and after hearing MUCH praise from my friends..

and.. eh.

the action and visual effects were awesome, no doubt.. but jeez, it's just a 2 hour long fight scene. i feel like i want my 10 dollars back.

being a comic aficionado, i guess i was kind of hoping for the best, but i guess i gave it too much hype in my own mind. i guess i shouldn't be all that surprised.. sin city had a lot more source material to work with.

but i kept thinking how cool it would be if there was a fighting game with some of the different characters/soldiers.. and xerxes makes me think of urien for some reason..

GuilewasNK

03-10-2007, 09:34 AM

Style in this instance meaning character design... it's like the creators were like, let's have generic karate guy, generic american(spikey hair,flamboyant style), generic black dude(big, muscular, seemingly unintelligent), generic ninja, generic old man, generic wrestler, generic monk character, generic oriental girl... That's just my opinion though, you're welcome to disagree.

I've been saying that for years.

They finally started to realize the importance of aesthetics and design in VF4 though. I don't care how "great" a game is. If you have no style with that substance you'll be doomed to niche status. Vice-versa as well. There is a reason that there is a big difference in gameplay from DOA1 to DOA2. They knew bouncing boobs will only go so far. Same with character design from VF3 to VF4. There is a reason Sarah looks more like Nina now.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128790

Sarang01

03-10-2007, 10:37 AM

Anyone here know if "Fate Stay/Night" (Realta Nua) on the PS2 is going to be a Fighter?

Chacrana

03-10-2007, 11:59 AM

Anyone here know if "Fate Stay/Night" (Realta Nua) on the PS2 is going to be a Fighter?

It's not.

Sarang01

03-10-2007, 12:03 PM

Fuck. Just bloody well kill me. Have you seen the Anime?! It would be a great fighter. What a waste. I'm going to nag the Type Moon Project until they consider it.

Chacrana

03-10-2007, 12:07 PM

Fuck. Just bloody well kill me. Have you seen the Anime?! It would be a great fighter. What a waste. I'm going to nag the Type Moon Project until they consider it.

Waiting for more of the US DVDs to come out before I get started on that show. I think there's only 2 out, so there's a ways to go and I know I'll be annoyed by the wait between discs if I start too early.

Sarang01

03-10-2007, 12:10 PM

Ehhh I watched the whole thing streamed way back shortly after it came out in Japan.

Chacrana

03-10-2007, 12:24 PM

Okay, so my dad's trip to Japan didn't finish off my list of imports, but it did net me:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/JXYTheGreat/IMG_0910.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/JXYTheGreat/IMG_0911.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/JXYTheGreat/IMG_0912.jpg

Can you guess which one doesn't belong?

Sarang01

03-10-2007, 12:45 PM

I'm surprised you didn't have him bag any SMT stuff for you.

Rodimus

03-10-2007, 12:58 PM

I'll also be picking up Fatal Fury Achives 2 and SamShow in a couple weeks. Let me know how Ultimate Jump Superstars is. I never played the first one but was thinking about picking this one up.

Real Bout 2 Nuff said:

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/neogeo/a/rbff2andy-1.gif

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/neogeo/a/rbff2andy-2.gif

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/neogeo/a/rbff2andy-3.gif

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/neogeo/a/rbff2andy-4.gif

Chacrana

03-10-2007, 01:00 PM

I'm surprised you didn't have him bag any SMT stuff for you.

Well I've already got all the SMT games that I need. The only thing I'd want him to pick up from that would be Persona 3 Fes, but that's coming out here in June so it's pointless.

B:L

03-10-2007, 01:04 PM

depascal22

03-10-2007, 01:26 PM

Geez, you don't come into the threads for a couple days and there's a new fighter thread every time. It's good that this is the best thread in the world but bad that I've gotta go searching for it everytime I'm away for a few days.

asianxcore

03-10-2007, 02:10 PM

Awesome combo video MarkMan.

Question for any gumball stick owners.

I recently acquired a used Agetec Dreamcast stick ("The Green Goblin"). The top and bottom part of the metal stick are ok, but it has some weird dirt in-between. At first I thought it was rust, but it wasn't orange. More like brown/black and I can't seem to get it off.

Anyone know what it might be?

MarkMan

03-10-2007, 02:12 PM

Thanks for taking the time to check it out :) !

It's rust/wear on the metal panel.... it happens to Hori sticks too... specifically the old Real Arcade Line (TTT/SC II/T4/T3/T2 Namco stick)...

Apossum

03-10-2007, 02:24 PM

Jimfoley-- that takedown sounds pretty epic. I never get to see crazy shit like that :lol:

only thing like that I've seen was when I saw an undercover cop busting some guy at a gas station. It was fucking nuts-- he was this middle aged, balding guy in a velour suit pointing a gun and screaming at the guy, who was on the ground with his hands on his head. My friends and I thought he was a psychopath and were very freaked out, being 13 at the time. He finally pulled out his badge and explained what the hell was going on.

OT: ouch, the buttons on the Tekken stick worked with a USB adapter, but not the stick :(

asianxcore

03-10-2007, 02:39 PM

Thanks for taking the time to check it out :) !

It's rust/wear on the metal panel.... it happens to Hori sticks too... specifically the old Real Arcade Line (TTT/SC II/T4/T3/T2 Namco stick)...

It's a great video. If I have the money I might hit up the Tekken tourney going on @ Sunnyvale Golfland. You and Kristianator are going to be there right?

So the wear is normal? Is there anyway to get rid of it, or should I just let it be?

GuilewasNK

03-10-2007, 02:45 PM

JEKKI

03-10-2007, 02:51 PM

And shameless plug #100003498932

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8YIlldvVfkah~!!! how do u do that xiaoyu combo the second????

I don't kno how to do that backflip, and I dont even kno that the u/f+1+2 can leave u in RDS stance...

furthermore I cant see what move u did after the backflip.. it looks like a low kick...

Apossum

03-10-2007, 03:01 PM

Markman-- nice vid!

Jekki-- f,f+both kicks for the backflip. if you land flush with the other guy's head, she lands on their shoulder and punches their face...lots of damage on that one.

MarkMan

03-10-2007, 03:24 PM

ah~!!! how do u do that xiaoyu combo the second????

I don't kno how to do that backflip, and I dont even kno that the u/f+1+2 can leave u in RDS stance...

furthermore I cant see what move u did after the backflip.. it looks like a low kick...

JEKKI: u/f+1+2~B, RDS f,f+3+4, RDS d+3,2, RDS 2, RDS 2~(2),1 is the notation for that combo...

--

Apossum: thanks! So far there are only 2-3 convertors that work with arcade sticks for the PS3... and they only sell them in Japan. One of them is by Sanwa Supply and the other two are made by Elecom.

Just hang in there, in April Pelican will be releasing a lag free convertor that not only enables you to use PS2/PS1 controllers/sticks on the PS3, but also for your PS2/PS1 games. A friend of mine works for Pelican and he confirmed no lag.

The slight, SLIGHT, lag on the current adapters that work with arcade sticks make me sad. I mean 2-3 frames might not seem like much. But that's a shitload too much for me.

MarkMan

03-10-2007, 03:33 PM

Got these off someone on another forum...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/164/416403131_62b316c4ca.jpg
Hori Fighting Stick 3 casing...

Will use in conjunction with these...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/174/416402617_4bb92869a4.jpg
Misc Sanwa/Seimitsu parts...

:) :) :)

Hopefully I'll have some nice new pics in a few days...

And... hopefully I'll finally get my Virtua Stick High Grade...

Darkside Hazuki

03-10-2007, 07:47 PM

There is a reason Nina looked like Sarah to begin with.

Fixed.

Didn't anybody read my post about VF not including the fantasy and sci-fi elements you guys are mistaking for style?

JEKKI

03-10-2007, 08:05 PM

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/174/416402617_4bb92869a4.jpg
Misc Sanwa/Seimitsu parts...

deeyamn, oh no u didnt~!!!

I just did a real horrible thing this morning, I added my credit card to my paypal account.

now my spending power is that much more powerful, and I think I may be in the mood to soon waste me sum scrilla on sanwa parts and bathing apes

anyway thankx for the notation, but I can't do it on PSP :( I need a stick...

Sarang01

03-10-2007, 08:42 PM

This is not markman. (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=11456)

And that youtube video didn't work for me. Malformed ID? :hot:

As for Fate Stay Night...

http://www.akiba-bound.net/img/dru/020506dru_saberdojo.jpg

We could always hope for a doujin game like Melty Blood. :cry:

Wait, did you photoshop that or is it the real PS2 Fate coming? Too bad it won't be coming out on the 360. If it was then I could play against MarkMan and Chacrana.

Rodimus

03-10-2007, 09:03 PM

Fixed.

Didn't anybody read my post about VF not including the fantasy and sci-fi elements you guys are mistaking for style?

Why don't you consider "fantasy and sci-fi elements" as style.

I'm super addicted to VF4 evo. It's like crack, once I start playing I'm not leaving that T.V. for another hour or so.

Darkside Hazuki

03-10-2007, 10:23 PM

Why don't you consider "fantasy and sci-fi elements" as style.

On the contrary, I do. I'm simply saying that VF is no less stylized without those things, and should not be critqued as such.

Thusly. ;)

Rodimus

03-10-2007, 11:13 PM

On the contrary, I do. I'm simply saying that VF is no less stylized without those things, and should not be critqued as such.

Thusly. ;)

Gottcha and agreed.

BTW out of curiosity who does everyone use in VF? I'm training hard with Lei Fei, the monk. If anyone has any tips on using him I'd apperciate it. I was using Akira but some of his moves are a bit hard to pull off 100% of the time. Especially his Knee Bash, the one where you have to release G after 1 frame. I'm guessing it's probably easier to do with a stick, along with most of his moves.

Chacrana

03-10-2007, 11:18 PM

Hey guys, I like opinions. You know this. Hell, I don't even think for myself any more it seems. So I want yall's opinions on this:

Should I hook up the HT setup I'm getting to my PC with nice monitor, or my nice TV with the gaming stuff? I'm playing a shitload of games on both the PC and the consoles... but here's where it gets complex: I have my DVD player hooked up to the TV, so it'd be nice to watch stuff with surround sound, but my parents already have an HT setup for the big screen in our basement which we're replacing this summer... so it's not all that useful for that. So any opinions on what I should do?

Sarang01

03-11-2007, 12:47 AM

PC and play the shit out of "Queen Of Hearts".

Chacrana

03-11-2007, 12:51 AM

PC and play the shit out of "Queen Of Hearts".

No. :lol:

kainzero

03-11-2007, 01:26 AM

Gottcha and agreed.

BTW out of curiosity who does everyone use in VF? I'm training hard with Lei Fei, the monk. If anyone has any tips on using him I'd apperciate it. I was using Akira but some of his moves are a bit hard to pull off 100% of the time. Especially his Knee Bash, the one where you have to release G after 1 frame. I'm guessing it's probably easier to do with a stick, along with most of his moves.
I used Sarah. She seemed pretty easy to pick up... not too many execution problems with her =P I can actually watch videos and understand what she's doing.
A lot of the game is learning what to do against other characters... I never really learned other people's weight-classes, or their frames... or even how to block their super simple strings. -_-;

sblymnlcrymnl

03-11-2007, 01:43 AM

BTW out of curiosity who does everyone use in VF? I used mostly Jacky and Brad in VF4:Evo.

RelentlessRolento

03-11-2007, 03:24 AM

I used mostly Jacky and Brad in VF4:Evo.

same here... I want to be good at brad, but he's a bit too technical for me.

Apossum

03-11-2007, 03:35 AM

I use Aoi in VF4:evo and VF5. I used Kage from the first time I played VF1, up until Evo came out and I decided enough was enough.

Hey guys, I like opinions. You know this. Hell, I don't even think for myself any more it seems. So I want yall's opinions on this:

Should I hook up the HT setup I'm getting to my PC with nice monitor, or my nice TV with the gaming stuff? I'm playing a shitload of games on both the PC and the consoles... but here's where it gets complex: I have my DVD player hooked up to the TV, so it'd be nice to watch stuff with surround sound, but my parents already have an HT setup for the big screen in our basement which we're replacing this summer... so it's not all that useful for that. So any opinions on what I should do?

I don't know but there's a catfight outside my window. they're kinda fat though :-\

anyway, yeah, go for the blue one. er, the TV. pc games are for loose, promiscuous women.

RelentlessRolento

03-11-2007, 03:36 AM

I don't know but there's a catfight outside my window. they're kinda fat though :-\

send a picture... either that or fight them to the death!

Rodimus

03-11-2007, 12:17 PM

I use Aoi in VF4:evo and VF5. I used Kage from the first time I played VF1, up until Evo came out and I decided enough was enough.

I was in the same boat with Akira. Been using him since VF1, so I also decided to move onto some new blood, somebody a bit easier to use. Anyone know why Taka-Arashi (the Sumo) wasn't in VF5. And I'm not buying that this generation can't handle his blubber.

MarkMan

03-11-2007, 12:59 PM

I wish Taka was in VF5... he was so awesome in VF3...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwXMxAYfs0E

!

Apossum

03-11-2007, 12:59 PM

I read a while back that he was really unpopular in 3.

depascal22

03-11-2007, 01:20 PM

I've used Shun Di since he debuted in VF2. I've dabbled with everyone else but the Drunken Master will always be my main man.

Rodimus

03-11-2007, 01:33 PM

Thanks for the video Markman. Holy crap is he strong. That guy using Taka just wreacked everyone, 4-5 hits with him and you're dead. But his opponents didn't seem too good. I wish he was in VF4 evo, I'd use him. He seems simple enough.

MarkMan

03-11-2007, 02:30 PM

That's the crazy part, his opponents in those vids are among the top players(at the time)... one of which is known as the VF legend, Chibita... I was lucky enough to meet Chibita when he and other top VF players came for VF4 during EVO 2003...

They're fuckin robots...

sonicbooom

03-11-2007, 05:44 PM

CvS2 player here. Wish there were a way for me to play online against other people.

sblymnlcrymnl

03-11-2007, 05:47 PM

Now I feel like playing some VF4. :-k

Rodimus

03-11-2007, 06:17 PM

In VF4 evo besides Quest mode what are other ways to get items? Any effective method in getting items and money easy?

depascal22

03-11-2007, 07:49 PM

Somehow, I've misplaced my copy of VF4: Evo during my last move. I've literally torn the house apart and I still haven't tracked it down.

Chacrana

03-11-2007, 09:16 PM

As it turns out, everyone who had input on the "What HT shit should Chacranajxy do" question was wrong. I'm rearranging the room a bit so that I can obtain win for both the PC AND the TV/consoles. These new collection pics will be simply orgasmic... in June when I feel the need to post said pics.

kainzero

03-11-2007, 10:48 PM

so i was reading srk and i found this one thread about a guy whose compiling a program to list locations of all the ssbm players...

http://www.smashwiki.com/wiki/GSC

...man. that would be so awesome to use it to find other FG players in general.

MarkMan

03-11-2007, 11:15 PM

EVO South was the other day...

Tekken 5: DR winner is a Kuma player... !

Jimbo Slice

03-12-2007, 12:07 AM

Awesome news on the Kuma player taking Evo South. That's to cool.

Chacrana - I hate to annoy you, but I'm seriously getting annoyed of using the PS3's web browser so I'm going to :). Do you think that the Gateway Laptop that the dude Kendro posted in that thread I made in PC general is worth it? How will it run HL2 (that's the only PC game I really care about)? I'll order it tomorrow if you think it's worthwhile. I was thinking about getting one from iBuyPower but I've heard bad things. Any other site that lets you custom design a Laptop for a reasonable price? I think my budget will be about 1,500 now.

Sorry for cluttering the thread guys but 4 days of only having the PS3 as my web browser is freaking killing me. If any other PC heads can help answer the questions I left for Chacrana, I'd really appreciate the help.

Sorry again!

Chacrana

03-12-2007, 12:21 AM

Yo Jim -- sorry for not keeping up on the laptop thread. I can, however, tell you that the Gateway should be fine based on those specs. The 7600 is definitely enough for HL2 and its mods. The only thing that you need to change (and I mean need) on the configuration of that laptop is the amount of RAM. Opt for 2048mb (the 2 X 1024mb option since it's more effective and cheaper.) And yeah, Ibuypower is teh suck.

Anyway, I hope that helps and I hope everything works out for you.

RelentlessRolento

03-12-2007, 12:36 AM

In VF4 evo besides Quest mode what are other ways to get items? Any effective method in getting items and money easy?

I know there's a glowing wrist or armband if you finish all the training mode lessons or something... I got one for my Jacky, but it was a bitch.

Sarang01

03-12-2007, 12:41 AM

I read a while back that he was really unpopular in 3.

I've heard the character model took too much work.

Jimbo Slice

03-12-2007, 03:19 AM

thanks chac you the man. going to order it tomorrow.

Rodimus

03-12-2007, 04:03 AM

I know there's a glowing wrist or armband if you finish all the training mode lessons or something... I got one for my Jacky, but it was a bitch.

Yeah, I got that one. However everyone's item is diffrent (I think.) I just completed Jeffery's Trial Series and Combos, and he got some "Thor looking helmet" with wings. Some of Akira's trial combo's are too damn hard. Think I'll wait till I get my arcade stick.

The problem is Gamefaqs doesn't have a good faqs on the game and I don't remember a guide for it (I remember one for VF4 but not for evo.) It's a pain to figure out these little things. It's like I'm back in the 80's when we trusted only "Nintendo Power" for all our cheats.

JEKKI

03-12-2007, 02:10 PM

CvS2 player here. Wish there were a way for me to play online against other people.who u use yo???

I'm so scrubby at that game it's horrible~!!!

I can only play in practice mode, doing my CCs and stuff

but when I play arcade mode or an actual match, I dont kno what I'm doing~!!

I rock Hibiki Cammy n Terry on a-groove

Apossum

03-12-2007, 02:28 PM

I'm in love with Sakura/Chun-li, Hibiki, and Ryu in N-groove. I've considered repurchasing a regular xbox just to play this online..if I could find one for $50 or less, I'd do it.

I've heard the character model took too much work.

I could believe it-- he would crash the PS3 if he were in 5! Either that or the sweat affects would cause too much glare in the sunny stages :lol:

Chacrana

03-12-2007, 02:30 PM

Good morning, bitches and hoes. Today, I've come to inform you that NCSX has their preorder up for GGXX Accent Core for the PS2 (not the stupid Wii)... it's coming out 5/31. Also, KOF NESTS is coming out 4/19, but I think that was previously announced.

I'll prolly still grab the Best release for GGXX Slash just so I can play it sooner rather than later.

BustaUppa

03-12-2007, 02:56 PM

I'm assuming that Accent Core is another marginally tweaked / re-balanced version of XX? Sammy is really Capcomming it up with this one! I really gotta play some more GG. Even if it's just CPU matches on my #reload for Xbox... I've let that game sit for too long. Does Xbox #reload have anything to unlock?

speaking of unlockables... does SFA3 for Dreamcast have anything to unlock? I was a bit surprised when I first played it, because it looks like all the extra stuff from PS1 was already there from the start.

asianxcore

03-12-2007, 05:49 PM

I'll prolly still grab the Best release for GGXX Slash just so I can play it sooner rather than later.

I hate/love the fact that both XX Slash and Accent Core are coming out so close to each other.

I want to get Accent Core, but if the changes are nothing that I'll notice too much, I'll go ahead and get XX Slash this week for $29. GGX for DC is the only GG game that I have, so I'd like a game with a bigger character selection. Bums me out that I can't play as Testament.

Wish I could play CVS2 online as well, but after playing DOA4 online, I would lost my mind even more getting lag on CVS2. Lately I've stuck to my N-Groove team of Hibiki/Iori/Blanka. I've been experimenting with Morrigan because of her fun rushdown/guard break strings.

RelentlessRolento

03-12-2007, 07:21 PM

Rodimus

03-12-2007, 07:34 PM

you can unlock online by calling up Capcom and paying them a few million dollars.

Funniest thing I read all day :rofl:

MarkMan

03-12-2007, 08:17 PM

I woke up this morning with two missed calls on my phone...

It was some phone number from San Francisco I was unfamiliar with...

I looked up the number and then realized it was Sega Japan's offices at the SOA building in SF... lol.

Looks like I might be going to SF soon. :)

Jimbo Slice

03-13-2007, 01:47 AM

If you have an original Xbox you can play CVS2 online on Capcom vs SNK 2: EO. It's pretty decent but can be extremely frustrating if you don't have a perfect connection with someone.

Bought a laptop today, glad to be back on the internetz (and not on the PS3 browser)

Also, what's up with T5:DR PS3? It no longer loads up my character data right away (I can only access it by loading on the versus menu using L1 or whatever). This means that I can't use it in Ghost Battle, so unfortunately I can no longer level up my characters unless I use new data. LAME! Anyone know of a fix?

MarkMan

03-13-2007, 03:48 AM

Also, what's up with T5:DR PS3? It no longer loads up my character data right away (I can only access it by loading on the versus menu using L1 or whatever). This means that I can't use it in Ghost Battle, so unfortunately I can no longer level up my characters unless I use new data. LAME! Anyone know of a fix?

Ouch, I know how this happens, if you happen to quit the game/turn off console while it is loading or after hitting start+select for the soft reset it will corrupt the game data file but it will keep your customization data.

Unfortunately there is no fix for this that I know of. :(

Jimbo Slice

03-13-2007, 04:20 AM

Ouch, I know how this happens, if you happen to quit the game/turn off console while it is loading or after hitting start+select for the soft reset it will corrupt the game data file but it will keep your customization data.

Unfortunately there is no fix for this that I know of. :(

*tear*

Thanks anyway. Dag though. Oh well, life goes on.

Anyone want a copy of VF5 for 40 shipped? PM me if you do.

kainzero

03-13-2007, 05:41 AM

3 cvs2 hibiki players!

hahah, i'm one too! but i'm a tier whore, so i use a-groove hibiki/sakura/bison even though i can't really do the customs. hibiki's makes me mad too, i always miss the timing with the c.hp cancel into qcb+lp. sakura's, i'll be lucky to get 3 uppercuts in, and bison i barely even know how to start it... i just hope i get lucky with a random slide into scissors to the corner. i should learn blanka but i never had the game and learning those 3 without the game was hard enough.

i love customs though... i feel a lot safer doing customs than doing supers for some reason.

Apossum

03-13-2007, 11:18 AM

I always miss the extra qcf+hp after hitting them with qcb+hp. Can you pull of her 3rd super? I always forget the order to press the buttons in...I don't think I've ever done the whole thing.

asianxcore

03-13-2007, 04:09 PM

Guilty Gear XX Slash (PS2) is now available
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-40-49-en-70-1s29.html

and....Guilty Gear Accent Core cover:
http://image4.play-asia.com/350/4v/pa.87577.2.jpg

Decisions...decisions...

RelentlessRolento

03-13-2007, 04:21 PM

Rodimus

03-13-2007, 04:26 PM

is it just me or is everyone getting rid of their VF5 games??? why?

don't know what but the GG accent core cover rubs me the wrong way... especially with knowing that Sol is possibly into Kyo:

http://image4.play-asia.com/350/4v/pa.87577.2.jpg

Into Kyo or Ky? I remember disscusing wheather Sol was gay or not a couple threads back. I know his real named is Fredrick based on Freddy Mercury.

Jimbo Slice

03-13-2007, 04:28 PM

is it just me or is everyone getting rid of their VF5 games??? why?

don't know what but the GG accent core cover rubs me the wrong way... especially with knowing that Sol is possibly into Kyo:

http://image4.play-asia.com/350/4v/pa.87577.2.jpg

For me it was because DR came out, and I really don't have the time to take a new fighter seriously right now.

and yea, that GG cover is pretty weak. what's going on with their hands? i mean who does that?

RelentlessRolento

03-13-2007, 05:04 PM

Into Kyo or Ky? I remember disscusing wheather Sol was gay or not a couple threads back. I know his real named is Fredrick based on Freddy Mercury.

I haven't played GG in forever so it took me a few minutes to figure out his name and I still got it wrong...

was Ky ever based off anyone?

Ahadi

03-13-2007, 05:05 PM

is it just me or is everyone getting rid of their VF5 games???

Hell, if someone here has a copy they wanna get rid of, drop me a pm :-)

I'm heading back to Street Fighter after a few weeks of just pure Tekken. I'm wondering if I'm going to have some transition time mistakes...

GuilewasNK

03-13-2007, 05:15 PM

MarkMan

03-13-2007, 05:55 PM

Yea seriously... I haven't played VF5 for like 2 weeks... no one to play with... I TRIED getting ppl into it... this city is a Tekken city... :)

RelentlessRolento

03-13-2007, 06:50 PM

Yea seriously... I haven't played VF5 for like 2 weeks... no one to play with... I TRIED getting ppl into it... this city is a Tekken city... :)

sadly my city is a SSBM city >_<

it's annoying as hell.

Chacrana

03-13-2007, 07:15 PM

sadly my city is a SSBM city >_<

it's annoying as hell.

Mine is an N64 city. It's poor as hell. Either that, or people are just stupid as shit.

RelentlessRolento

03-13-2007, 07:26 PM

Mine is an N64 city. It's poor as hell. Either that, or people are just stupid as shit.

or both.

Chacrana

03-13-2007, 07:47 PM

or both.

It is true. I go to my school for the academics since that's literally all there is here... my class and their lousy taste in everything just reinforces my negativity.

RelentlessRolento

03-13-2007, 07:53 PM

It is true. I go to my school for the academics since that's literally all there is here... my class and their lousy taste in everything just reinforces my negativity.

I can relate. When I went to my local community college for cheaper academic classes most of it sucked.

Rodimus

03-13-2007, 08:15 PM

I haven't played GG in forever so it took me a few minutes to figure out his name and I still got it wrong...

was Ky ever based off anyone?

Here's what I got from wiki about Ky and his music references:

Ky Kiske is named after Kai Hansen and Michael Kiske from the power metal band Helloween. His Overdrive move, Ride the Lightning, is named after a Metallica album. His instant kill attack, Rising Force, shares its name with a Yngwie Malmsteen album and a song by Hammerfall. Ky's theme song, Holy Orders (Be Just or be Dead), is a reference to Iron Maiden song Be Quick or Be Dead.

kainzero

03-13-2007, 09:14 PM

I always miss the extra qcf+hp after hitting them with qcb+hp. Can you pull of her 3rd super? I always forget the order to press the buttons in...I don't think I've ever done the whole thing.

hahah, i don't even do qcb+hp -_-; i know she has that one combo starting with close s.hp but i just never did it... i just stick to my c.lk x2, c.lp, qcf+mp. except against people who can punish it, in which i don't even do the qcf+mp and i look like a noob who missed his combo.

supers? what are those? i only know customs! i actually had to look that one up... deadly rave supers aren't too hard to learn, since there's usually two chains of weak-mid-high and then some other weird chain, but i probably wouldn't be able to connect it in a match. -_-;

asianxcore

03-13-2007, 09:15 PM

I can relate. When I went to my local community college for cheaper academic classes most of it sucked.

The community college I go to has a 3 game arcade in the cafeteria.

Raiden
X-Men Vs. Street Fighter
Random pinball machine

Having X-Men Vs. Street Fighter to play in between my breaks in classes makes it easier to go to. Sometimes I do feel that my crew are pretty much it when it comes to fighting game fans in my area. In the handful of years I've here the only serious fighting game fans I see crowding the Tekken 5, KOF and so on machines at the local arcades are my friends.

It's funny. When I entered the tournament that fellow fighting game CAG'er Kristianator put together, their county's best were surprised that the county that my friends and I were from, played fighting games at all. Probably because it's littered with rich yuppies and celebrities like George Lucas.

P.S- Anyone planning on ordering Guilty Gear XX Slash? Is anyone going to wait for Accent Core?

Also lots of respect for all you A-Groove players. I've tried but I can't nail any custom combo worth a shit

JEKKI

03-13-2007, 11:49 PM

man too many Hibiki players!!

eff that!!

I'ma replace her with my MAIN MAN,

Benimaru.

or... I can jus do what I've always been doing,

and that's to not play CVS2!

ooooohh~~~~

RelentlessRolento

03-13-2007, 11:52 PM

Here's what I got from wiki about Ky and his music references:

with so many heavy metal references, I'm surprised we have yet to see a GG vs. Guitar Hero crossover.

Chacrana

03-13-2007, 11:58 PM

with so many heavy metal references, I'm surprised we have yet to see a GG vs. Guitar Hero crossover.

Guitar Hero turns you into some douchebag playing a plastic guitar. Guilty Gear is passionate battle action. They will never cross over unless Guitar Hero's music turns into 80's butt rock.

RelentlessRolento

03-14-2007, 12:05 AM

Guitar Hero turns you into some douchebag playing a plastic guitar. Guilty Gear is passionate battle action. They will never cross over unless Guitar Hero's music turns into 80's butt rock.

good point...

I'll be in my corner dreaming of a GG vs Darkstalkers (yeah right my ass).

Chacrana

03-14-2007, 12:12 AM

good point...

I'll be in my corner dreaming of a GG vs Darkstalkers (yeah right my ass).

As long as you can pop Morgan's tits in that game, I'd buy it.

trq

03-14-2007, 12:29 AM

Why in god's name did it take me so long to finally find my way into one of these Fighting threads? It's obviously where all the cool kids hang out.

Thanks for that link to all those wallpapers, RR -- I can practically put up a new one each week for the rest of the year.

kristianator

03-14-2007, 04:03 AM

depascal22

03-14-2007, 10:43 AM

I just picked up DOA4. Anyone need some easy wins so I can get a little competetion?

Chacrana

03-14-2007, 11:16 AM

I just picked up DOA4. Anyone need some easy wins so I can get a little competetion?

Yes. I'll be home on Thursday and I have spring break next week, so I've got time to learn you your place.

asianxcore

03-14-2007, 02:45 PM

Yes. I'll be home on Thursday and I have spring break next week, so I've got time to learn you your place.

Damn Kasumi..

Jimbo Slice

03-14-2007, 03:09 PM

Kinda OT, but who here is picking up TMNT on XBLA? If anyone is picking it up and wants to play it today before 6 PM EST, hit me up (AIM = KillJimFoley).

JEKKI

03-14-2007, 03:30 PM

Chacrana

03-14-2007, 03:33 PM

Havent read it yet, but only Mexicans like SNK.

JEKKI

03-14-2007, 03:45 PM

no... Taiwanese too.

they're actually the only dudes I see playing that shit.

anyway check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O8ajdNRapk

MVC2 tourney match w/ Soo Mighty using servbot!!

Apossum

03-14-2007, 03:47 PM

check it out, here's an article about fighting games,

mostly having to do with racial issues and Justin Wong:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/issue/88/16

the article is actually pretty bad, especially near the end.

the writer is obviously talking out of his ass

especially when he calls him "Justin Fong." He's trying to say that when Justin plays MVC2, he's Asian and when he plays 3rd Strike, he's American?

How about when he plays MvC2, he's that guy who doesn't lose ever so people cheer for the underdog and when he plays Japan's best at 3rd strike, he's still that bastard who wins at MvC2, but is now representing the U.S. at 3rd Strike. I'm sticking my neck out a bit since I've never been to Evo, but I can't imagine people are choosing who to cheer for based on race. Anyone care to comment on that? :lol:

I think the writer dug so deep that he missed the point of competition entirely. sure, there was some American nationalism involved in the crowd at 3rd Strike...just like we cheer for U.S. teams in the olympics :roll: he made some interesting observations about how players are described though.

MarkMan

03-14-2007, 03:55 PM

At EVO events... ppl usually cheer for Japan(in the past) lol... some ppl even boo'd Justin as he turtled versus Daigo... lately though, since the move to Vegas, the US pride train seems to be picking up steam...

*has been going to EVO before it was called EVO* :)

AMERICA fuck YEA

asianxcore

03-14-2007, 04:06 PM

How did I know the writer of that article was from UC Berkeley....

As an "Asian-American" fighting game player, I am offended by that article because of it's sheer ignorance and stupidity. My mind is blown that someone actually took the time to write that. The fact that the writer tries to sprinkle random bits of world history into the article, attempting to make some link, is fucking ridiculous.

This is the first time I've ever heard the race card in any form brought into fighting games, competitive or not. Yes, we all have grown up around arcades and the fighting games that used to fill them up. Yes, we were very well aware of our dominant and not so dominant usual players. Yes, we all remember putting up a quarter..."I got next". That entire part of my life, growing up around fighting games, arcades and competition still and always will feel like yesterday to me.

Every fighting game scene has Asian players in it. Are they good? Sure, but I know a whole lot that aren't. I know a lot of Asian gamers that hate fighting games or play them casually. Fighting game fans come in all different ethnicities, sizes, genders, ages and the like. Which is why I love the genre so much. Sure there are the "stereotypical" fighting game fans, but for the most part I constantly run into people playing CVS2 at the local arcade near my GF's place, that all look different. Novices, Pro's, Tournament players, a couple looking to play CVS2 for fun, the mix is there.

For him to try a draw a comparison about people hating JWong and booing him because of his race or his dominance over his "non-Asian" competitors, is just downright stupid and lame. If I knew I could get into UC Berkeley with random thesis' like that, I would've applied there first. The idea that he could pick out all the players locations depending on their race is even more silly. If you've ever been to Berkeley you know the school is littered with Asian students. The school offers the most variety in our area when it comes to majors and is one of the top schools in the Bay. Hell, I wanted to go there and get my Buddhist Art History degree there. I know white folks that lived in Oakland. I know asian kids that live outside Berkeley. I know black people that live in my county. For him to say that a certain race should ONLY live in a certain area in the Bay, implying that only poor blacks live in Oakland or that rich Asians live in Berkeley is so stupid it makes me want to throw up on myself.

Out of my fighting game crew most of the games are covered. But by this writer's theory I must be making up some sort of dream land group of friends I hang with.

The best Tekken player in my crew? A white guy
The best Guilty Gear player in my crew? A white guy
The best CVS/MVC2 player in my crew? Asian guy

etc..etc.. you get the point.

Why are people booing JWong? Simple. A lot of those people in the audience like to cheer for underdogs. They like to find faults in the players that CONSTANTLY are top tier in their game and always find some way to make it to the finals. We shouldn't boo them, we should encourage them. The fighting game scene (though a relationship with a ghost) is constantly evolving within it's strong communities, so it's always hard to stay on top. I give the best Tekken, DOA, CVS2, MVC2, GGX, and so on players much respect because once you are on top, everyone wants your head and you have to fight to stay there.

People hating on you isn't because of your race, it's because you are on top. I remember posting here about my 3rd place finish in a CVS2 tournament not too long ago (Thanks for the tourney Kris!!). The person I had worked with at the time would not stop talking shit about how he could beat me, that the whole thing was a fluke. Did he do it because I was Asian and as a White male he had to put me in my place? No. He did it because he was cocky and of course when some people hear you are on top, they have to smile and try to knock you down.

No shit players from Japan are so good, is it because they are Asian? How about the fact that arcades still run rampant in that country? How about the fact that fighting games are STILL coming out there in arcades and on consoles? How about the fact that the genre is still hot and is still highly competitive? How about they don't start their sentences with..."Oh..yea..I remember in 10th grade I played 3S". Huh? I just played it 2 days ago. Fighting games have become too nostalgic for the general public.

It's up to us fighting game fans to keep it alive, keep it strong, keep it dominant.

It's people exactly like the guy who wrote the article that do their own part to tear things down one brick at a time.

P.S- Sorry for the long post. I love my fightin' games :)

Chacrana

03-14-2007, 04:10 PM

I think the writer was really trying to sound smarter than he actually is? Race being a factor in how you play? I really fucking doubt it. At least, it has never once determined how I play against somebody... in the matches of DOA 4 I played against Apossum, it wasn't whether he was black or white, it was that he was a $$$ that made me hate him.

Chacrana

03-14-2007, 04:17 PM

That was a long as fuckin' hell post, Asian, but... actually a lot more worthwhile than the article. As for the historical bits -- he was throwing those around to sound smart. Bringing up the Yellow Peril for example... that was World War I rather than WWII and I hardly believe anyone sees Justin Wong as a threat to the West's prosperity. Unless they're a cunt.

kainzero

03-14-2007, 04:27 PM

yeah, that article sucked.

people generally don't like justin because he wins. there is no other reason. when you're on top, you're a target... it has nothing to do with the way he plays. it isn't just mvc2, but he's made a good name for himself in 3s and in cvs2.

ironically, he compares justin wong vs daigo to an "american vs. asian" battle, that asians are methodical and americans are snazzy risk takers. people liked daigo and still do because of the way he plays, lots of comebacks and psychic DPs and things that generally shouldn't work but do... a lot of his videos have his 3s ken doing random c.mk into shoryuken, but they almost always connect. so really, daigo is the aggressive risk-taker in that match.

and i don't want to hear about how daigo was really the american in this match because he played an american ken vs the asian chun. :roll:

this kinda intelligent-wanna be crap is why i hated taking some of my humanities in college. uuuugh.

asianxcore

03-14-2007, 05:35 PM

That was a long as fuckin' hell post, Asian, but... actually a lot more worthwhile than the article.

Sorry :)

I always get fired up when people play the race card, or throw it around randomly. Throw in fighting games (my fave genre) and you have one pissy individual.

Dude you whoop me in DOA4 now...does that mean you have put your foot in the ass of both Vietnam and Laos? WHITE DOMINATION

Kainzero....stuff like that is why I hate going to my college GE classes in general. Everyone thinks that just because it is college you can't be wrong. I run into most people like that who are just fresh out of high school, who think college is an oppurtunity to show off their untapped genius. It's sort of lame. Just because you can back a really BAD thesis with random unrelated facts and fallacies doesn't make the arguement intelligent nor correct.

Jimbo Slice

03-14-2007, 05:43 PM

True that, Asian. Take comfort in the fact taht chances are that you'll be somewhere in 5 years and they probably won't be.

Anyway - anyone need a 3s soundtrack? I got an extra when I bougth the Anniversary Collection off a fellow CAG for 5 dollars. Post up and if more than 1 person wants it, I'll host a mini-contest.

Chacrana

03-14-2007, 05:45 PM

I would accept such an awesome thing as the 3s soundtrack.

RelentlessRolento

03-14-2007, 05:49 PM

for all fighter people: whoever downloaded TMNT 1989 from the XBLA today we have to get a game going on today. I'll be home in about an hour or so so look for me.

Chacrana

03-14-2007, 05:50 PM

I'll probably get TMNT when I get home tomorrow... so if anyone's still playing tomorrow night... maybe.

Ahadi

03-14-2007, 05:57 PM

for all fighter people: whoever downloaded TMNT 1989 from the XBLA today we have to get a game going on today. I'll be home in about an hour or so so look for me.

I'm down. What time's this gonna go down?

RelentlessRolento

03-14-2007, 08:26 PM

I wont be home till after 8pm probably... >_<

played a quick one with Jim and it was nice... for some dumbass reason I wish the online had infinite continues.

Ahadi

03-14-2007, 08:34 PM

I wont be home till after 8pm probably... >_<

I can do around like 9:30/10ish.

If this goes down, shotgun Donatello! No blitz! :lol:

Chacrana

03-14-2007, 09:06 PM

I can do around like 9:30/10ish.

If this goes down, shotgun Donatello! No blitz! :lol:

wtf would you want Donatello for? Fighting game newb indeed :lol:

Ahadi

03-14-2007, 10:56 PM

wtf would you want Donatello for? Fighting game newb indeed :lol:

He's my favorite turtle :-D

So is this still going down, or did I miss the boat?

And why do you say Donatello ftl?

RelentlessRolento

03-14-2007, 11:12 PM

I'm up for it, but wait till 10:45 since I have to write a small paper for class.

Chacrana

03-14-2007, 11:12 PM

Donatello wears purple and has a giant stick that he clearly shoves up his ass.

RelentlessRolento

03-14-2007, 11:18 PM

Donatello wears purple and has a giant stick that he clearly shoves up his ass.

Jim and I noticed something else very strange about him once you save april in the game...???

Chacrana

03-14-2007, 11:18 PM

Jim and I noticed something else very strange about him once you save april in the game...???

If you liked it and Jim didn't, I can probably guess. :lol:

Ahadi

03-14-2007, 11:19 PM

Donatello wears purple and has a giant stick that he clearly shoves up his ass.

Point made.

But that can't undo the childhood innocence of not knowing what people make of the color purple. And I'm not talking about the book or that bad Whoopi Goldberg movie.

And Rolento, if you're still down for Turtles @ 10:45, send me an XBL message or something.

Sarang01

03-14-2007, 11:25 PM

I'm in love with Sakura/Chun-li, Hibiki, and Ryu in N-groove. I've considered repurchasing a regular xbox just to play this online..if I could find one for $50 or less, I'd do it.

I could believe it-- he would crash the PS3 if he were in 5! Either that or the sweat affects would cause too much glare in the sunny stages :lol:

I was referring to the physics of said body type compared to the others. Supposedly Sega uses the same body type for all the characters. With Ganryu they had to make an exception.

RelentlessRolento

03-14-2007, 11:25 PM

Point made.

But that can't undo the childhood innocence of not knowing what people make of the color purple. And I'm not talking about the book or that bad Whoopi Goldberg movie.

And Rolento, if you're still down for Turtles @ 10:45, send me an XBL message or something.

I'm down for it, but approve me as a friend in the mean time so I can actually send you something.

Ahadi

03-14-2007, 11:30 PM

I'm down for it, but approve me as a friend in the mean time so I can actually send you something.

Done and done. I'm gonna leave my xbox on, but I'll be away. I'm gonna head back to it at 10:40.

Anyone else want to get in on this? 2 more people, for 2 more turtles :D

Chacrana

03-14-2007, 11:45 PM

Done and done. I'm gonna leave my xbox on, but I'll be away. I'm gonna head back to it at 10:40.

Anyone else want to get in on this? 2 more people, for 2 more turtles :D

I sent you a friend request. There shall be turtle violence in mere days.

MarkMan

03-14-2007, 11:48 PM

I was referring to the physics of said body type compared to the others. Supposedly Sega uses the same body type for all the characters. With Ganryu they had to make an exception.

Ganryu?

lol.

I'm gonna get TMNT tomorrow when I'm not lazy...

:)

JEKKI

03-15-2007, 01:22 AM

damn Turtles make me wanna get an xbox...

but in spirit, here are sum match videos for SNES turtles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azKQMBs5Wi0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq53HnGTl3k

ValkyrieVF-1S

03-15-2007, 02:00 AM

They used the sf2 engine?

Shredder played kinda like bison in the video.

RelentlessRolento

03-15-2007, 02:55 AM

They used the sf2 engine?

Shredder played kinda like bison in the video.

armgon played like Dhalsim...

good game though. I forgot how fun it was even with the ridiculous characters.

I'm taking my dreamcast to school tommorow since i have a 5 hour gap between classes... I did the same thing last thursday but with my PS2... for some reason Urban reign is always a huge hit. And for some reason, I'm very proud of that.

Rodimus

03-15-2007, 03:53 AM

I got the highest score in my (Vero Beach Division) Blocbuster Tournament with TMNT Tournament Fighters and I remember I did damn good in Clay Fighter. But I wasn't good enough in NBA JAM.

I used War:
http://choujin.mpage.jp/superfamicom/others/Ninja_Turtles_07_War.gif

They should've made it like a real tournament, when you fight other people, not the computer.

kainzero

03-15-2007, 05:42 AM

Kainzero....stuff like that is why I hate going to my college GE classes in general. Everyone thinks that just because it is college you can't be wrong. I run into most people like that who are just fresh out of high school, who think college is an oppurtunity to show off their untapped genius. It's sort of lame. Just because you can back a really BAD thesis with random unrelated facts and fallacies doesn't make the arguement intelligent nor correct.
yeah. i had that whole thing going on in a GE class i hated the most, communications. we would have to read something, and then people in class would have these "bs" revelations about the text and make issues out of nothing and act like they were awesome because of it. they would also try to use big vocabulary to sound more intelligent. -_-; in fact, it's exactly like that article.

i want a dreamcast... again. my old one broke for some reason that i never figured out. i want to play some mvc2 again...

apokalipze2

03-15-2007, 06:04 AM

I think people boo Justin Wong because he turtles too much. Seeing him play 3s at Evo was extremely painful. The guy literally does not move one inch forward. And while some might have that mentality of win at any cost it doesn't win you much fanfare in the fg community. Also it doesn't help that he's from that gaming cult empire arcadia:lol::lol:

Apossum

03-15-2007, 11:10 AM

*HUGE ASS POST ABOUT FIGHTING GAMES

dude! Change all the 3rd person words into 2nd person and send that post to the writer. He needs to hear it. :)

asianxcore

03-15-2007, 12:52 PM

Kainzero,

Those kind of people are way too common in the JC, State and UC systems. I think teachers need to do their job in discouraging that type of thinking. I have had teachers that stretch to make students who voice random bits of genius sound correct, which reinforces that type of mentality. I have also had some teachers that just flat out say things like "Umm...yea I'm not buying that...where did you get that from?". We need more of that.

Apossum,

As lame as it sounds, I was actually thinking about it. I thought my post was ok at best, I could try to write something a lot better than that. I typed that gigantic post based on pure confusion after reading that article. The funny/disturbing thing is the guy actually has a blog dedicated to the "ongoing" discussion of race and video games. A part of me is wondering what nationality this guy is.

Playing to the fans seems like a double-edged sword. I'm curious to what everyone thinks about that. Playing to your audience is definitely something that casual and non-casual players think about while playing. You want to be able to entertain your fellow fighting game brethren or even random people walking by watching. At the same time what if playing to the fans mean you use a strategy that is terrible against your opponent? What if your desire to hit that flashy combo, cancel, or glitch costs you an entire match and maybe the tournament?

Apossum

03-15-2007, 02:31 PM

Jimbo Slice

03-15-2007, 03:13 PM

MarkMan

03-15-2007, 03:30 PM

I know if you do Raiden's Fatality on the SNES version on the fight before Goro, Goro comes out all silver/chrome like...

I was able to get corner infinites on Goro only too..

kainzero

03-15-2007, 04:42 PM

that's not lame, the guy needs to be told what's up. and I know what you guys mean about show offs in class...the worst is that if you talk to those people after class, they'll almost surely admit how insincere they are about what they said and how they don't care about what they were talking about (especially in literature/media based courses.) IRL, most people take pride in their ability to bullshit, and it does have its place, but it's obnoxious in class. On the other hand, profs often encourage it by dissecting things too much. i hate how people are proud of their BS. it's kinda sad. i've had papers i didn't like to write and papers that i've had a hard time writing or getting to a noticeable page limit, but i've never written an argument that i feel is stupid or that i disagree with personally.

asian: heh, actually i don't care if the professor thinks they're right or wrong, but i hate it when it's totally not relevant to the class and sucks up a ton of time, which is what they're mostly doing.

anyway...

as for "catering" to the crowd, i play to win, and because of that what entertains me is watching tactics unfold, not lots of attacking. and i watch videos with the intent of seeing how they play like that. everyone says chun is boring, i disagree. sure chun is defensive, but i like playing chun because i like shutting people down and making them feel helpless and desperate. chun vs. chun is really annoying though, i'll give you that, and more often than not i lose the match because i'm impatient and force things. but i hate 3s anyway. =P

i don't know what it means to show off in a fighting game anymore. it's all the same to me. -_-;

Apossum

03-15-2007, 05:37 PM

corner infinites? fatality glitches? please, elaborate!

in the arcade version--
http://youtube.com/watch?v=f532LUbu9Sw
The Cage one with the jump punches (which the vid maker screwed up) always worked the best and put me on the verge of getting my ass kicked a few times :lol:

fatality glitches...where to start?
depending on what revision you play--

there are a bunch of gltches with Cage's fatality. You can punch off 3 heads if you keep pressing f,f,f HP fast enough. In an earlier version, you could do the split-nut punch right after punching off someone's head (which would make their head appear on again.)

With sub-zero-- if you freeze them right after the last hit, you can rip their head off while they're frozen (which turns their body a glitchy green.)

Scorpion-- if you throw them during "finish him" and tap up a whole lot during the throw animation, you'll burn them while they're on the ground.

Liu Kang-- if you start the cartwheel too far away, you whiff it and can do whatever you want until the fatality time runs out.

there may be some I'm forgetting. There were some with MK2 as well (like killing the baby after a Babality in an early revision :lol: )

JEKKI

03-16-2007, 01:31 AM

hay does any1 remember when Tecmo was selling bikinis???

they were Dead or Alive bikinis, the the shopping page had pics of models in the bikinis,

like Lisa Gleave.

does any1 got those pics and can hook it up???

I got a small folder of pics, but it's all pics of pretty girls~!!!

in exchange, I'll give u all these:

http://danbooru.chiisai.net/data/f3/50/f3509a3ee164b3a410c160bf3de0db74.jpg
http://danbooru.chiisai.net/data/c8/95/c895b2973cf192e644a1d394a0563d6f.jpg
http://danbooru.imouto.org/data/1f/ff/1fff11efeba02857f3c635914626e787.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/sHaDoWKuBi/Cosplay/02-2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/sHaDoWKuBi/Cosplay/07.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/sHaDoWKuBi/Cosplay/773546.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/sHaDoWKuBi/Cosplay/773588.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/sHaDoWKuBi/Cosplay/02.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8092/1145917445666ky3.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/Deansta1/Elena.jpg

Apossum

03-16-2007, 01:34 AM

Here you go!

http://www.medeasin.com/journal/04/0410/amydoabikini.jpg

oh.... sorry. its a doa bikini..but..just...no. :lol:

JEKKI

03-16-2007, 01:42 AM

ahaha, u actually helped me more than u think.

I didnt kno Dead or Alive is also called DOA, if u google DOA u can find them!!

http://www.tecmogames.com/store/images/gear/bikini13.jpg
http://www.tecmogames.com/store/images/gear/bikini21.jpg
http://www.tecmogames.com/store/images/gear/bikini33.jpg
http://www.tecmogames.com/store/images/gear/bikini41.jpg

apparently they're still for sale,

http://www.tecmogames.com/store/bikinis.asp
http://www.tecmogames.com/merchandise.asp

edit: back view~!!!

http://www.3dnews.ru/documents/5593/doa_bikini11.jpg

RelentlessRolento

03-16-2007, 03:07 AM

hay does any1 remember when Tecmo was selling bikinis???

they were Dead or Alive bikinis, the the shopping page had pics of models in the bikinis,

like Lisa Gleave.

does any1 got those pics and can hook it up???

I got a small folder of pics, but it's all pics of pretty girls~!!!

in exchange, I'll give u all these:

* COSPLAY PICS *

for some reason all those scared me other than the Morrigan, Lilith and Mai pics...???

and after seeing the dizzy cosplay I was reminded of some very unsettling info I know... Dizzy is very popular among people who like BBW (ie. women with hefty chunks)

other than that I gotta go outside right now and take pics of coke machines in the dark... oh art school >_<

MarkMan

03-16-2007, 04:10 AM

For you arcade stick freaks out there...

www.sdtekken.com

Hori Real Arcade Pro 3.... SA!

RelentlessRolento

03-16-2007, 04:16 AM

Rodimus

03-16-2007, 04:48 AM

people be sure to check out the top 10 beat em ups here... while I don't totally agree, it's nice to see someone can separate beat-em-ups as a thing of their own.

http://www.gametrailers.com/screwattack.php

An almost solid list, but WTF!!! No Dungeons & Dragons or X-Men Arcade? Instead they put a SNES Batman game in the list?

JEKKI

03-16-2007, 02:53 PM

An almost solid list, but WTF!!! No Dungeons & Dragons or X-Men Arcade? Instead they put a SNES Batman game in the list?yeay, Alien vs Predator too.

at least the top 9 belong in there

RelentlessRolento

03-16-2007, 03:22 PM

An almost solid list, but WTF!!! No Dungeons & Dragons or X-Men Arcade? Instead they put a SNES Batman game in the list?

jim and i were playing TMNT on Wed and atalked about x-men... he was saying today that game dosn't hold up as good as it use to, though I have yet to check for myself.

my complaint was that The Punisher wasn't on there... solid 2 player beat-em-up.

Rodimus

03-16-2007, 04:06 PM

jim and i were playing TMNT on Wed and atalked about x-men... he was saying today that game dosn't hold up as good as it use to, though I have yet to check for myself.

my complaint was that The Punisher wasn't on there... solid 2 player beat-em-up.

I think it holds up fine, especially the 6-Player version. They have one in Boomers, Dania. But why put Dazzler in the game? Nobody wanted to use her? I remember there was always a fight to see who would use Wolverine. Good thing I was a Nightcrawler guy. NOTHING MOVES THE BLOB!!!

And I forgot about Aliens vs Predator. That's another great beat-em-up. Again everyone wanted to use the Predators, nobody wanted the humans.

RelentlessRolento

03-16-2007, 04:20 PM

I think it holds up fine, especially the 6-Player version. They have one in Boomers, Dania. But why put Dazzler in the game? Nobody wanted to use her? I remember there was always a fight to see who would use Wolverine. Good thing I was a Nightcrawler guy. NOTHING MOVES THE BLOB!!!

And I forgot about Aliens vs Predator. That's another great beat-em-up. Again everyone wanted to use the Predators, nobody wanted the humans.

yeah, back in the day the Dazzler always confused me... I always had wished they at least switched her out with Jubilee... but nowadays I just wish it was Deadpool :)

Apossum

03-16-2007, 06:48 PM

No Punisher in the beat em up top 10 kinda sucks. It's one of the last great arcade beat em ups.

New avatar. the difference could save your life.

Chacrana

03-16-2007, 07:23 PM

At first I didn't get the avatar... now... it's appreciated.

Anyway, the best beat em up of all time is Cadillacs and Dinosaurs. Unquestionable.

JEKKI

03-16-2007, 07:26 PM

omg~!!! I totally forgot I gotta Tekken tournament tomorrow!!!

any tips to prevent me from losing in the first round???

I think these are the guys I'll be going up against:

http://www.tekkenplayers.com/media <-- 3/3/07

the arcade is also holding 3S matches, but these are some of the best ppl in america~!!

I wouldnt stand a chance...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=146638744668597507&hl=en

oh no u didnt~!!

MarkMan

03-16-2007, 09:18 PM

Good luck at the FFA Ranbat...

Is this your first time playing against Tekken regulars?

I know most of the guys there, and I know most of them are pretty good... good luck!

kainzero

03-16-2007, 09:59 PM

yeah, i got some tips.

don't get frustrated or worry too much about whether you win or lose. i went to an ffa ranbat like a year ago. just play your best.

when i went, i lost my first round by a sliver of health and a big execution error. i lost so much confidence that i played like trash in the double elim round and got peaced out by someone who my friend (rickstah) called "the biggest scrub at ffa."

conversely, don't get too cocky either. one time when i was in SD, i used to practice with this guy and i used to beat him pretty easily, getting double digit win streaks on him. when a double elim tournament came up and i drew him in losers, i thought it was an easy win and i was up with only one round to go. then he came back and beat me to knock me out of the tourney.

strangely, in my first match of that tournament against someone i thought was better than me, i got perfected 4 times in a row to start off, but i was still able to take the second game and make at least something out of the third game.

maybe i'm just too random. or i have terrible defense. according to vf quest mode, i have a 10-20% success rate at blocking lows. =P

RelentlessRolento

03-16-2007, 10:08 PM

@Apossum: your avatar once again shows more reasons why I should move to Japan.

any updates on Fatal Fury Special coming to US XBLA?

Sarang01

03-16-2007, 10:12 PM

yeah, back in the day the Dazzler always confused me... I always had wished they at least switched her out with Jubilee... but nowadays I just wish it was Deadpool :)

You're kidding right? Dazzler wasn't that bad. The reason the game had that lineup is I assume the USA network version of "X-Men" was showing at that time on TV or shortly before. You'd remember it because they gave Wolverine an AWFUL Aussie accent.

Rodimus

03-16-2007, 10:33 PM

You're kidding right? Dazzler wasn't that bad. The reason the game had that lineup is I assume the USA network version of "X-Men" was showing at that time on TV or shortly before. You'd remember it because they gave Wolverine an AWFUL Aussie accent.

Yeah, that was a pilot episode. I'm pretty sure it was done by TOEI so it had alittle anime feel to it.

Appossum - I've seen your avatar on wiki. Nice one. :)

RelentlessRolento

03-17-2007, 02:56 AM

Some possible good news for XBLA as it ads another fighter possibly:

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/03/16/yie-ar-kung-fu-to-kick-in-the-us/

asianxcore

03-17-2007, 05:16 AM

Jimbo Slice

03-17-2007, 02:23 PM

I don't know how you big MK fans do it.

So I realized today I had never beat UMK3 on Xbox Live. Don't know if I ever will

Shao Kahn is so hard it's silly. My Xbox controller almost flew out the window.on'

Use Sub-Zero (non-ninja) and freeze him, walk up to him, uppercut him, and then immediately shoot the ice (d, f+lp) again. 90% of the time you'll either refreeze him as he is getting up, or he'll go for his Anti-Air shoulder charge move, in which case you simply HP him on his way down, shoot an ice to catch him in the air, and then uppercut. Rinse and repeat.

RelentlessRolento

03-17-2007, 02:58 PM

Use Sub-Zero (non-ninja) and freeze him, walk up to him, uppercut him, and then immediately shoot the ice (d, f+lp) again. 90% of the time you'll either refreeze him as he is getting up, or he'll go for his Anti-Air shoulder charge move, in which case you simply HP him on his way down, shoot an ice to catch him in the air, and then uppercut. Rinse and repeat.

that was the only way I could do it...

asianxcore

03-17-2007, 03:04 PM

Thanks JimFoley. I was able to beat him using that exact technique.

On an unrelated note, I almost got the "Perfect World Champion" achievement on SFII. In the end I didn't lose a round to anyone...but Dhalsim. I was messing around in the first round and he beat me.

Rolento, thanks for reminding us all that Fatal Fury is coming out for XBL. It's been so long since we heard anything I seriously forgot.

Chacrana

03-17-2007, 03:23 PM

If Fatal Fury Special has online play, I might get it... just because I need more opportunities to talk trash. However, it's still pretty useless to me now that I have the Real Bout collection. Real Bout 2 = win.

B:L

03-17-2007, 05:36 PM

omg~!!! I totally forgot I gotta Tekken tournament tomorrow!!!

any tips to prevent me from losing in the first round???Car issues...I can't make it :cry:

Good luck though. Best tip is to hope you don't get matched up against one of the really good players.

Second best tip is to not worry, and just do what you do. Don't ever let yourself freeze or let your mind blank out; always have a fall-back strategy no matter how cheesy it is.

Third best tip is to get paired with Rickstah, then tell him B:L says hi before proceeding to scrub him to death. 8-)

MarkMan

03-17-2007, 06:13 PM

EVO2007 World Finals location has been announced....

Green Valley Ranch Resort & Casino in Henderson, NV.

EVO2005 was held here... while it is not as beautiful as last year's Red Rock Hotel & Casino.... it is still an excellent venue with a bomb ass buffet.

Book with Southwest next week! While it's still cheap/available!

Rodimus

03-17-2007, 06:31 PM

Happy St. Patty's Day to all. Have one on me:

http://www.bottledbeer.co.uk/photos/youngschoc.jpg

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/6/61/200px-Blanka-capcomfix.jpg

^^ Victory for Blanka!!!, He never worry bout wearing green on St. Patty's Day

Apossum

03-17-2007, 06:56 PM

Happy st. patrick's day! I don't know why because I'm not irish, but fuck it, lets get drunk! the usual weekend iraq war protests and drum circles here in Madison are starting to give way to drunk people dressed in green. woo!

and if any of you guys are online with the PS3, send me an invite: mames. i've played resistance online once and it was amazingly lag free. I don't know what they did, but it's perfect, even on my shit connection.

JEKKI

03-17-2007, 07:14 PM

damn, tournament got postponed (or permanently rescheduled from the hereafter) 2 hours.

now I'm jus chillin w/ nothing to do~!

it's to noisy to read, and I'm too lazy to play games / practice.

anyway here are sum 3S japanese matches from january; featuring Daigo beasting comebacks, top tier Alex play, and another hilarious yet annoying announcer!!

http://www.godweapon.net/comboVids/gamePlayer.php?id=428

Alex useta be my guy!! but I cant do much with him and lose a lot...

now I jus use necro, I've gotten a lot more comfortable with him and he runs shit major~!!

B:L>> is your 3rd tip suppose to be some kinda intimidation method to psyche that guy out?? haha

edit: u kno what, I dont think I ever even entered a 3S tourney before either...

only GGXX and cvs2. I guess I'll throw away an extra $5 today jus to say I have

depascal22

03-17-2007, 07:43 PM

Just picked up Marvel vs Street Fighter for the Saturn. Got any tips? Wolverine is a beast in the game like he is in X-Men: COTA and XvSF.

JEKKI

03-18-2007, 03:15 PM

boooooooooooooooo~!!!!!

I'm comin at yall w/ my report of yesterday,

boooooooooooooooo~!!!!!

first of all, I wasnt even planning on entering 3S. But to waste my time I played a few matches, and won enough times to garner the confidence to burn a good $5 just for the sake of burning $5. But I hella messed up during the real matches! ugh I was playing rather predictably, I forgot to read my opponent, and I completely effed up my offensive wake-up game. In retrospect, I coulda had an extra $5 in my wallet rite now...

but Tekken tho... man Tekken is hella bizarre. I cant believe every dude there brought a controller with them, wtf!! Everybody is playing on a pad, and it's their own pad~!!! Everyone brought their own dual shock pad (except one guy who had a psx pad shaped like a saturn pad) It's hella creepy, not only the fact that everyone has a pad, but also the fact that it has to be their pad as if they couldnt just bring 2 and share. About 4 doodz had joysticks tho, as if the arcade machine didnt already have joysticks on it. I asked some guy and he said it was becoz his stick is more comfortable, whatever...

anyway it was my 1st time playing against a human ever. I got beat pretty hard coz I like to rush in, but Tekken seems to be a pokey game. All my attacks got frame-advantaged. I got quite used to moving around tho, but since I played only on psp my execution was hella off. Like, I would hit my opponent with a combo but I wouldnt finish it, I need to improve that.

but good experience~!! it's going down again a week from now (3/24) and I saw sum guy I kno while I was there too. I dont wanna drive so hopefully he can give me a ride coz he live in my hometown!

MarkMan

03-18-2007, 03:20 PM

There's nothing bizarre about that at all... wouldn't it be best to play what you're comfortable on? This has been going on since Tekken 5.0 came out in late 2005.

More often than not, the sticks/buttons on the machines are either broken or suck ass.... poor Japanese Sanwa parts aren't as sturdy as the mountain men of Happ parts that you usually find in American cabinets.

Down South a bit more in San Diego we have a good balance of both pad/stick players... I'd say about 60/40 stick... ratio wise...

asianxcore

03-18-2007, 03:33 PM

Just picked up Marvel vs Street Fighter for the Saturn. Got any tips? Wolverine is a beast in the game like he is in X-Men: COTA and XvSF.

Not really. Many of those characters play like their X-Men Vs. Street Fighter and Marvel Super Heroes versions. I really like playing as Shadow, since Charlie was one of my favorite characters from X-Men Vs. Street Fighter. Shadow has a little lag when using any super moves, but his speed with corner/air combos makes up for it.

Wolverine is still crazy in that game. It wasn't until Marvel Vs. Capcom 2, where they decided to finally slow him down.

If I remember right that game (MVSF) is still pretty broken, so most of the characters have infinites.

Thanks for the tourney report Jekki. I'm always interested in hearing others talk about their fighting game tournament experiences.

JEKKI

03-18-2007, 03:43 PM

There's nothing bizarre about that at all... wouldn't it be best to play what you're comfortable on? This has been going on since Tekken 5.0 came out in late 2005. the reason I find it weird is becoz when I go to an arcade, I want to play arcade games on arcade machines. You dont tell your friend "hey man let's go to the arcade" only to have him reply "ah cool jus drop by my pad first so I can pick up my psx controller"

if every1 is going to carry a pad, why hold a tournament at an arcade? bring the fire hazard into someone's garage instead.

but I aint trying to criticize the community or anything. In the end I'm really nothing more than a scrub ass noob in regards to Tekken. I say these things from the perspective as an outsider to the scene.

MarkMan

03-18-2007, 03:49 PM

Yeah, I get your perspective, you got it spot on... it probably does look odd to someone that isn't accustomed to it. But it's been that way for awhile now. :)

People can play at their best... And that's one of the reasons why the arcade scene for DR is staying strong(although no where near as strong as the old, old, olden days)...

Glad you got exposed to it...

Apossum

03-18-2007, 05:23 PM

Chacrana

03-18-2007, 05:28 PM

my modern korean film professor's grading scale:

S+
S
S-

people still ask him what "S" means and he still doesn't give a straight answer.

so my question-- what does the "S" in S-rank mean in games?

I think it stands for Super. Though really, it could also be representative of AZN's lack of command of the English language and alphabet.

RelentlessRolento

03-18-2007, 10:44 PM

most underrated capcom 2d fighter... educate yourself:

http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/darkstalkers/darkstalkerstv-4a.jpg

http://kotaku.com/gaming/darkstalkers/hardcore-gaming-101-takes-on-darkstalkers-245092.php

asianxcore

03-18-2007, 11:02 PM

most underrated capcom 2d fighter...

Word. Everyone needs to import the Darkstalkers collection. It's the reason I decided to flip-top my PS2.

I remember that Darkstalkers TV show. The first time I saw it I was in the hospital for over two weeks for Pneumonia. I woke up randomly in the middle of the night and it was on. It was an episode where Sasquatch was talking to a group of penguins out in the arctic. I remember everyone I tried talking to about it thought I was crazy.

Chacrana

03-18-2007, 11:03 PM

Word. Everyone needs to import the Darkstalkers collection. It's the reason I decided to flip-top my PS2.

I remember that Darkstalkers TV show. The first time I saw it I was in the hospital for over two weeks for Pneumonia. I woke up randomly in the middle of the night and it was on. It was an episode where Sasquatch was talking to a group of penguins out in the arctic. I remember everyone I tried talking to about it thought I was crazy.

Yeah, Darkstalkers the game is surprisingly good. Darkstalkres the animated series is surprisingly bad. I'd expect it to be horrible, but it surpassed my expectations 10-fold.

Rodimus

03-18-2007, 11:17 PM

I used to love the first Darkstalkers, and then as the series went on I fell less in love with it. The characters are too silly for me, especially when they're playing off all the old horror monsters. I would've liked it to be more dark and moody.

RelentlessRolento

03-18-2007, 11:51 PM

Yeah, Darkstalkers the game is surprisingly good. Darkstalkres the animated series is surprisingly bad. I'd expect it to be horrible, but it surpassed my expectations 10-fold.

the Anime version wasn't that bad IMHO... the American one um... :lol:

JEKKI

03-19-2007, 12:10 AM

vampire savior on the sega saturn with the ram cart was the shit.

and today I bought me some mdf ($25 for TOO MUCH of it) and constructed another joystick box~! Just the 4 walls tho, glued together and currently drying. My goal is to make this one really nice. Tomorrow I'll sand, putty, sand, putty it til I'm satisfied, then buy sum 'primer' and spray paint to finish it off!! All I'd need to do after that is make the top / bottom panels & buy some buttons / stick.

oh, and Markman or kainzero, how do u escape throws in Tekken?? I kno u push the punch button that corresponds to the throw your opponent (which I have absolutely no idea how the timing works), but I saw A LOT of ppl succeeding at throw escapes. during the tourney. I wonder if there's a trick to it, or if they are just extremely good and lucky at guessing

B:L

03-19-2007, 12:12 AM

There's nothing bizarre about that at all...
The only thing that would count as possibly bizarre is that it's an SBO Qualifier event, and SBO doesn't let you use your own stick. :cold:

But yeah, it's definately more prudent to bring your own controls if it's allowed, because you'd rather not rely on what they have at hand.

Apossum

03-19-2007, 01:25 AM

if god of war was a fighting game, it would be the most frustrating experience ever.

Chacrana

03-19-2007, 01:33 AM

Guys, do you realize that FOTNS comes out on the 29th? Does anyone have it preordered?

I, obviously, do... preordered this along with DJ Max Portable 2.

Rodimus

03-19-2007, 02:15 AM

Guys, do you realize that FOTNS comes out on the 29th? Does anyone have it preordered?

I, obviously, do... preordered this along with DJ Max Portable 2.

Is it any good? I didn't do any research on it. I'll be ariving in Japan the day it comes out.

Jimbo Slice

03-19-2007, 02:21 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHq_O5FFTec

I gotta see this show....

It's enough to make your blood run cold..

Chacrana

03-19-2007, 02:23 AM

Is it any good? I didn't do any research on it. I'll be ariving in Japan the day it comes out.

It's supposed to be fantastic. There's some minor balance issues with a couple characters, but there's still a ton of people putting up match videos for the game and there has been for well over a year now... so it must be something special regardless.

asianxcore

03-19-2007, 02:26 AM

Does anyone have it preordered?

I don't. I want to hear more hands-on reviews (aka this thread), before I make a purchase.

I read this review not too long ago:
http://insomnia.ac/reviews/atomiswave/hokutonoken/review.php

It made me want to hold off for a little bit it on it. Does anyone know where I could check out some gameplay videos?

Chacrana

03-19-2007, 02:29 AM

http://gfb.combovideos.com/

And I'm calling bullshit on that Insomniac review. That author has said a lot of stupid stuff in the past.

MarkMan

03-19-2007, 02:30 AM

YouTube is your friend :) !

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tougeki+hokuto&search=Search

And from what I've heard... this game is broken as fuck...

They should rename it to Toki Land 20XX...

But IMO it is very entertaining to watch... :)

Chacrana

03-19-2007, 02:33 AM

They should rename it to Toki Land 20XX...

WTF? Most random statement of the day. Respect.

Anyway, from what I've heard, the game isn't any more broken than NGBC at the absolute worst. So it's not really too bad at all. It won't be the next Guilty Gear in terms of competitive play, but it's still a damn good game.

MarkMan

03-19-2007, 02:37 AM

oh, and Markman or kainzero, how do u escape throws in Tekken?? I kno u push the punch button that corresponds to the throw your opponent (which I have absolutely no idea how the timing works), but I saw A LOT of ppl succeeding at throw escapes. during the tourney. I wonder if there's a trick to it, or if they are just extremely good and lucky at guessing

The general rule is... (although there are very few exceptions)

Left hand leading = 1 break
Right hand leading = 2 break
Both hands extending = 1+2 break

Of course 1+2 break throws are usually command throws not the basic 1+3 or 2+4 throws, but most of the time the animation is unique and easier to associate as a double break throw.

Example... Julia's mad axes throw.

The best way to practice it I guess is get accustomed to throws... go to command training and set the CPU controlled opponent to do 3 different throws, each with different breaks... I advise you to use Paul and these throws:

1+3
2+4
f,f+1+2

Now even if you don't break them every time, if you can at least tell what throw it was or know your mistakes, then that is half the battle. :)