View Full Version : PS3 sales slump 83% in UK
benjamouth
04-03-2007, 02:08 PM
Ah well, looks like the PS3 honeymoon in the UK is over
http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23977
PINKO
04-03-2007, 02:11 PM
most likely because there is less ps3 avalable
RAMSTORIA
04-03-2007, 02:14 PM
my guess is they slumped because they werent available, big launch stock, small restockings here and there. that sounds about right.
benjamouth
04-03-2007, 02:15 PM
most likely because there is less ps3 avalable
Unfortunately not, they're very readily available, all over the UK.
http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/
dpatel
04-03-2007, 02:29 PM
Unfortunately not, they're very readily available, all over the UK.
http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/
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Well, that is the same site that claimed the PS3 Euro launch was 'dismal', when numbers show it was more successful than the Wii, 360 (granted there was more supply available too).
H.Cornerstone
04-03-2007, 02:31 PM
I have two words that will change this: SingStar
benjamouth
04-03-2007, 02:35 PM
I have two words that will change this: SingStar
:rofl: Nice.
captmurphy
04-03-2007, 03:34 PM
Lol, UkResistance cannot be used as a serious reference.
benjamouth
04-03-2007, 03:37 PM
Lol, UkResistance cannot be used as a serious reference.
:) Come on dude, you can read those Argos stock checkers as well as I can:lol:
ryanbph
04-03-2007, 03:48 PM
maybe all the hardcore fans bought it at launch...between the price tag in europe and the lack of games, I would find it tough to justify buying one
Vinny
04-03-2007, 03:54 PM
maybe all the hardcore fans bought it at launch...between the price tag in europe and the lack of games, I would find it tough to justify buying one
Wait until Cricket and Rugby 2008 come out... then they'll all be going nuts over how so and so's tea drinking skills are so amazing thanks to the Cell.
dallow
04-03-2007, 04:15 PM
Sales of just about everything drop right after initial launch.
This isn't news.
It's all about how steady sales start to come.
I have no doubt that the PS3 will continue to do pretty well.
Did they expect first day sales, every day?
benjamouth
04-03-2007, 04:20 PM
Wait until Cricket and Rugby 2008 come out... then they'll all be going nuts over how so and so's tea drinking skills are so amazing thanks to the Cell.
Hey, that sterotype is offensive. I'm British and I don't even like tea :)
camoor
04-03-2007, 04:40 PM
Hey, that sterotype is offensive. I'm British and I don't even like tea :)
Dang. Now we're going to have to think of something else to throw in the Boston harbor.
benjamouth
04-03-2007, 04:47 PM
Dang. Now we're going to have to think of something else to throw in the Boston harbor.
Well the favourite food in the UK now is Chicken Tikka Masala if that's any help.
daroga
04-03-2007, 04:50 PM
Sales of just about everything drop right after initial launch.
This isn't news.
It's all about how steady sales start to come.
I have no doubt that the PS3 will continue to do pretty well.
Did they expect first day sales, every day?No, but when stock is readily available as it appears to be, sales don't usually fall off that much. That's a pretty hefty fall, as if the vast majority of people who wanted one got it day 1 and no one else cares. They just need some games to hit that poor system.
David85
04-03-2007, 05:29 PM
I love bullshit spin from fanboys!
They sold a lot the first week because they had a lot ready. The problem is that even if they didn't ship anymore systems everyone who wanted a PS3 bought it at launch.
Now the system will just sit on the shelves with the people in the stores begging you to buy the system, just like America.
Pucker
04-03-2007, 05:29 PM
I don't think the PS3 is selling all that well anywhere, but anytime people use percentages it smells like a major slant. Who wouldn't expect the 2nd week to be a major drop off? There wasn't supply problems either. What will matter is how it's selling in 2 months when all the hype is dead.....and it's even more important how it sells in December. That's when numbers really matter. They don't have to kep opening numbers momentum forever, but they do have to keep up the momentum.
dallow
04-03-2007, 06:41 PM
I love bullshit spin from fanboys!
They sold a lot the first week because they had a lot ready. The problem is that even if they didn't ship anymore systems everyone who wanted a PS3 bought it at launch.
Now the system will just sit on the shelves with the people in the stores begging you to buy the system, just like America.
Umm, PS3 is selling pretty steadily now.
What are the latest figures?
Wii at 5 million, and PS3 at 3 million?
Both are selling better than the 360 did after it's launch.
Sorry if my figures are incorrect, the only thing I'm sure is my previous sentence.
I'm at work and can't check many sites.
CoffeeEdge
04-03-2007, 11:19 PM
Umm, PS3 is selling pretty steadily now.
What are the latest figures?
Wii at 5 million, and PS3 at 3 million?
Both are selling better than the 360 did after it's launch.
Sorry if my figures are incorrect, the only thing I'm sure is my previous sentence.
I'm at work and can't check many sites.
The Wii is just shy of 6 million, and the PS3 is a around 2.8 million.
Anyways, you're a damned idiot if you don't think that this is an ABSOLUTE DISASTER for Sony. There's plenty of stock in the UK, and it's not selling. This is one of the absolute biggest second-week dropoffs of all time, if not the biggest.
I, personally, think this is wonderful. I'll be dancing on the PS3's grave yet.
dpatel
04-03-2007, 11:30 PM
The Wii is just shy of 6 million, and the PS3 is a around 2.8 million.
Anyways, you're a damned idiot if you don't think that this is an ABSOLUTE DISASTER for Sony..
You're right. In fact, almost every console in history is an "ABSOLUTE DISASTER" if we are going to compare them to the Wii. Why is everyone so quick to turn a Nintendo positive, into a Sony negative?
dallow
04-04-2007, 12:13 AM
The Wii is just shy of 6 million, and the PS3 is a around 2.8 million.
Anyways, you're a damned idiot if you don't think that this is an ABSOLUTE DISASTER for Sony. There's plenty of stock in the UK, and it's not selling. This is one of the absolute biggest second-week dropoffs of all time, if not the biggest.
I, personally, think this is wonderful. I'll be dancing on the PS3's grave yet.
CoffeeEdge, we've been over this.
The opinions of a fanboy aren't valid, so don't comment here.
Or anywhere, except GameFAQS.
panasonic
04-04-2007, 12:19 AM
The Wii is just shy of 6 million, and the PS3 is a around 2.8 million.
Anyways, you're a damned idiot if you don't think that this is an ABSOLUTE DISASTER for Sony. There's plenty of stock in the UK, and it's not selling. This is one of the absolute biggest second-week dropoffs of all time, if not the biggest.
I, personally, think this is wonderful. I'll be dancing on the PS3's grave yet.
you are a $$$$$$ :D lmao it censors $$$$$$
hiccupleftovers
04-04-2007, 12:34 AM
Ouch. Now all the PS3 people will come out of the woodwork and start to rationalize this steep drop. This isn't an ordinary drop and as the article asserts, a sales slump.
whoknows
04-04-2007, 12:37 AM
The Wii is just shy of 6 million, and the PS3 is a around 2.8 million.
Anyways, you're a damned idiot if you don't think that this is an ABSOLUTE DISASTER for Sony. There's plenty of stock in the UK, and it's not selling. This is one of the absolute biggest second-week dropoffs of all time, if not the biggest.
I, personally, think this is wonderful. I'll be dancing on the PS3's grave yet.
Must have been a disaster for the 360 too then because more PS3's have been sold at this this time than 360's were sold when they were at this point.
And don't say "but, but, there weren't any 360's in stores!" because that argument fails.
MS didn't keep up with demand. Sony did. Questions?
Thomas96
04-04-2007, 12:38 AM
Lets see what happens by the end of the Month...
dpatel
04-04-2007, 12:43 AM
Ouch. Now all the PS3 people will come out of the woodwork and start to rationalize this steep drop. This isn't an ordinary drop and as the article asserts, a sales slump.
Well, consider they had ample supply, I don't see why sales wouldn't drop the second week. Anyone wanting one at this point, was able to pick it up at launch.
What consoles are they comparing it to when they say its 'not ordinary'?
CoffeeEdge
04-04-2007, 12:51 AM
Must have been a disaster for the 360 too then because more PS3's have been sold at this this time than 360's were sold when they were at this point.
And don't say "but, but, there weren't any 360's in stores!" because that argument fails.
MS didn't keep up with demand. Sony did. Questions?
No, fuck you, and fuck you bringing the 360 into this. What wer're talking about is this: In Europe, there are lots of PS3s on shelves. After just one week, they aren't even selling a fifth as many. That is bad. I don't understand how that can be denied.
dpatel
04-04-2007, 12:55 AM
No, fuck you, and fuck you bring the 360 into this. In Europe, there are lots of PS3s on shelves. After just one week, they aren't even selling a fifth as many. That is bad. I don't understand how that can be denied.
I guess, if all consoles supplied the same amount of hardware, the 'but there are so many PS3s on shelves' argument might be a bit more effective.
CoffeeEdge
04-04-2007, 01:02 AM
I guess, if all consoles supplied the same amount of hardware, the 'but there are so many PS3s on shelves' argument might be a bit more effective.
Jesus Christ, you really are buying Sony's excuse that they have some incredibly balanced supply-and-demand chain that has just enough units on shelves to appear readily available, aren't you?
dpatel
04-04-2007, 01:03 AM
Jesus Christ, you really are buying Sony's excuse that they have some incredibly balanced supply-and-demand chain that has just enough units on shelves to appear readily available, aren't you?
Did I say I was? I'm just saying that you are completely negating supply in your argument. If we were to do that, the Wii and 360 would be about even, with the PS3 way behind. That is not the case.
dallow
04-04-2007, 02:08 AM
Did I say I was? I'm just saying that you are completely negating supply in your argument. If we were to do that, the Wii and 360 would be about even, with the PS3 way behind. That is not the case.
Exactly, CoffeeEdge.
You can't make that argument unless there were the same amount of consoles available in the first place.
If Nintendo put out a few million Wii's onto store shelves tomorrow, the fact that there would still be Wii's on the shelf a week from now doesn't mean Wii is dying. They just have a lot of supply.
Sales come, and continue for everyone.
Buy yourself some consoles and support the industry.
snakelda
04-04-2007, 02:35 AM
Wait until Cricket and Rugby 2008 come out... then they'll all be going nuts over how so and so's tea drinking skills are so amazing thanks to the Cell.don't forget about FIFA 08
dallow
04-04-2007, 02:42 AM
don't forget about FIFA 08
FIFA? Yuck!
It's all about Winning Eleven for them.
RedvsBlue
04-04-2007, 03:11 AM
:lol: The predictability of the PS3 bored is hilarious.
dallow
04-04-2007, 03:15 AM
:lol: The predictability of the PS3 bored is hilarious.
Yeah, 360 trolls come in, and Sony guys defend.
Give us free!
Zoglog
04-04-2007, 05:04 AM
all of you die now please.
jer7583
04-04-2007, 05:48 AM
Where are the "analysts" putting out articles calling the PS3 an "impulse buy" and a "fad" because of the sales slump?
Oh, apparently only the Wii which continues to sell absurd amounts month by month fits those criteria. Good job with the analyzing. Keep it up.
benjamouth
04-04-2007, 08:53 AM
FIFA? Yuck!
It's all about Winning Eleven for them.
Actually I'd say that Fifa is still pretty popular, probably sells more than Pro Evolution in the UK.
Fifa 07 was pretty good actually and unlike Pro Evo it has proper team names and (if you don't get the 360 version) lower league clubs, which is good for the 1000's of people in the UK who support teams outside of the Premiership.
Back on topic I don't think this is a disaster for Sony, and I'm sure the PS3 will do fine in the UK. I was just making the point that Europe isn't all about the PS3 and this gen I think the gap between 360 and PS3 owners will be a lot smaller in terms of numbers.
daroga
04-04-2007, 09:10 AM
So wait... let me get this straight. People want to "dance on the PS3 grave" presumably because Sony completely dominated that last 2 generations and by all counts have a huge ego problem, telling the consumer what they want rather than listening and giving them what they want.
Ok, so if the PS3 dies, then we're far more likely to see a second Sony, be it in Microsoft or Nintendo. How does that fix anything?
Don't get me wrong, I'm really, really happy to see Sony struggle like this. It's a nice jolt of reality for them so maybe they will turn things around with the PS3 or at least with their next system. But wanting our nice, balanced competition between 3 companies is something I'm not really wanting to get rid of.
Puffa469
04-04-2007, 10:15 AM
Well, consider they had ample supply, I don't see why sales wouldn't drop the second week. Anyone wanting one at this point, was able to pick it up at launch.
I agree with this. Theres only so many early adopters in the UK. Most of the people who had to have a ps3 at launch got one in the first week.
I think if the first week sales hadnt been soo strong, we wouldnt have seen such a big dropoff in week two.
I dont think this 'news' means anything really, but its fun to see the zealots in all three camps try to spin this in different ways.
The Mana Knight
04-04-2007, 01:59 PM
PS2 dropped by a similar percentage before and look how it turned out. This is expected when you release a ton of consoles at launch. Most people who want one will buy on release, then people will buy it as games come along. PS3 is doing pretty well in Europe and it will definitely be the leading console there.
FriskyTanuki
04-05-2007, 01:53 AM
This "slump" is meaningless. (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5122&Itemid=2)
Bloch added, “In almost all console launch scenarios, there has been no stock in a second week on sale. Sony, for a number of reasons, had extra stock available. So there really aren’t many comparable precedents for week two sales. Judging a console based on nine days on sale is just crazy. It doesn’t make any sense.”
VipFREAK
04-05-2007, 02:07 AM
Well, they got so much bad press "across the pond" for so long, leave enough time for that to get around and then release it some where else, what did you expect to happen?? Seriously...
Zoglog
04-05-2007, 03:05 AM
This "slump" is meaningless. (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5122&Itemid=2)
that works too.........
Though I prefer my method
CoffeeEdge
04-05-2007, 09:58 AM
Okay, let's do the damned math here.
The initial UK shipment was 220,000 units. In the first week, they sold 165,000. Take 82% off that, and you should come up there being 29,700 units left on UK store shelves after the second week.
I still say that any console launch, especially one with so few units, having that much of the initial stock still on store shelves at any point during the first month, is a bad sign.
I can't wait to see how you guys will explain the next bit of bad PS3 news out of Europe, but I'm sure there'll be an excuse.
dallow
04-05-2007, 10:30 AM
Okay, let's do the damned math here.
The initial UK shipment was 220,000 units. In the first week, they sold 165,000. Take 82% off that, and you should come up there being 29,700 units left on UK store shelves after the second week.
I still say that any console launch, especially one with so few units, having that much of the initial stock still on store shelves at any point during the first month, is a bad sign.
First off, you're wrong.
Read the article before posting:
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5122&Itemid=2
They sold 165,000 in the first two days, NOT the first week.
And another 30,000 in the week following those two days, NOT the second week.
I bet you most of what's left is dwindling.
soonersfan60
04-05-2007, 10:31 AM
I wonder why this is...
"Unfortunately, Chart-Track said it would not release comparable figures for Xbox 360 or Wii sales"
dallow
04-05-2007, 10:32 AM
I wonder why this is...
"Unfortunately, Chart-Track said it would not release comparable figures for Xbox 360 or Wii sales"
There were less units, and quickly sold out.
So that means there was a slump in sales of 100% :roll:
benjamouth
04-05-2007, 10:54 AM
It's funny that Chart-Track have said te 83% drop off is "meaningless", well why the hell did you bother to calculate and publish it then :bomb: .
I suppose all these stupid percentages and numbers are pretty meaningless.
I apologise for posting meaningless news.
dpatel
04-05-2007, 02:31 PM
Okay, let's do the damned math here.
The initial UK shipment was 220,000 units. In the first week, they sold 165,000. Take 82% off that, and you should come up there being 29,700 units left on UK store shelves after the second week.
I still say that any console launch, especially one with so few units, having that much of the initial stock still on store shelves at any point during the first month, is a bad sign.
I can't wait to see how you guys will explain the next bit of bad PS3 news out of Europe, but I'm sure there'll be an excuse.
Yes, it is a bad sign. But why do only judge the success of the console based on 'how many units are sitting on shelves'? Do you think the 360 was about even with the Wii at the time of launch. I mean, it should've been, since we are just judging solely based on what is on shelves.