New Goozex Thread v2.5 -- Promo Details Given Here

[Goozex]

Hey everyone,
It has been a really long time since I've been here -- not enough hours in the day and I've been out of town for a few days. Let me try to give a response to some questions that may have been unanswered by others on this thread since my last post. Thanks to everyone who stepped in with great responses!

If I missed anybody please send me a PM, which is tied to my email at Goozex, and I'll try to get back ASAP.

Grave_Addiction -- [edit] send us an email from your .mil and we'll boost your account accordingly...you can send email to help @ goozex.com

Everyone -- we cannot cancel trades in the matching process -- this is due to db restrictions and controls so that the system doesn't go out of whack

XBL Games -- these games are one time trades only. You can trade the XBL code. Some people actually mail out the cards, while others PM the code. In either case, once the code has been used it cannot be traded again.

Troz1820 -- The situation with yababyman is a priority for us right now -- will follow-up with you on this.

Magiic -- you're not out the points received if you get negative feedback -- b/c we understand stuff happens. Like Mr Unoriginal noted, if anybody gets a lot of negative feedback (especially in a row) then we remove the member from Goozex.

Remember too, that all negative feedbacks can be reversed.

Slidecage -- the new points payment method is as follows:
1) if your feedback score is below 10 then you will not get points up front -- designed to remove incentive for new users to signup and commit to false trades to earn points
2) If feedback score is between 10 and 100 you receive points immediately. If you receive a negative feedback in this range then you need to get positive again to start getting points immediately.
3) If feedback score is over 100 then the seller again gets points immediately. If the seller receives Two consecutive negative feedback options then it goes into a delayed point payment method.

The most important thing to remember is that in either case, you will always receive points for the trade. And as long as you get positive feedback then you will always get your points immediately.

The new point payment method is designed to simply remove the incentive for someone to scam the system. I very much understand that there is an issue of respect for our longest and most loyal members, and we work hard to create the best trading experience available.

[Goozex]

One note that I should have made is that the Goozex Team will never send you a PM via the Goozex system to leave positive feedback early and/or do other unusual activities.

If you are ever unsure, please email at feedback @ goozex.com

[Don Chubo]

I got a trade cancellation request - the person changed their mind about the damn game that I've been waiting to get matched on. Here's the email ;

"Hello XXXXXXXXX,

The user <XXXXXXXXXX> has requested the trade for the game "NCAA March Madness 07" (platform: Xbox 360) to be canceled. You can accept of reject this cancellation request.

If you wish to accept the request and cancel the trade, you can confirm your intention by going to your My Requests page and click on the button "confirm cancel" for this game. You have time till June XX, 2007 - XX:XX:XX to accept this request.

If you do not wish to cancel the trade, just ignore the message. It will expire on June XX, 2007 - XX:XX:XX."

So I go ahead and be a nice guy - even though I really want the game, and now I have to wait 6 turns again?

I've said it before, and I think whoever is running Goozex ought to tell everyone using their service, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TRADE YOUR DAMN GAME, THEN DON'T LIST YOUR DAMN GAME. It's that simple.

And Goozex, it really sucks to get bumped to the end of the line....again. Maybe you guys can address this.

[Goozex]

We installed the new cancellation requests upgrades yesterday -- thus this is the first time you're seeing this.

Remember, that as either a buyer or seller, you are under no obligation to accept a trade cancellation. If you receive one without prior PMs between you and the other side, we recommend you figure out why they want to cancel.

Regardless of what happens, you have no obligation to cancel a trade.

[macdude22]

While I try my best to be accommodating, you put your game up for trade you better be willing to trade it. Even if you just want to see if there is demand for a game there is trade statistics available. I likely wouldn't have accepted the trade cancelation, but then one of my pet peeves is people saying they are going to do something and then don't.

[indigo0086]

Goozex, I had recieved a game three weeks late so I put a negative for not receiving it before the transaction closed, then a day later I get the game, but it is in horrible condition, Do I return it to you or the seller, and can the feedback be changed to reflect that the game was in unplayable and unkeepable condition.

[slidecage]

i put up puzzle quest DS today but forgot that i wont be buy a post office till Next weds- Friday .... Taking my Pc up to the lake this weekend ..... so i deny the request and said put me back in 3 days (since it be sunday and i will be able to get it out 3 more days ( weds-friday

so if you got matched hopefully we get matched back on sunday or monday

[pcktlnt]

I recently started trading for PC games. I would like to know other people's opinions. When I select complete, I'm expecting a box, manuals/inserts, and the game. I know some games come as jewel case only, but should that be considered as complete? (Deciding on what type of feedback to leave, neutral or low positive.)

I consider it incomplete because there is no box. Just sending the manuals and the discs in a cd case really doesn't fit as complete in my opinion.

[macdude22]

It's my understanding that Goozex's policy is complete is how the game originally shipped, so if it originally shipped in a box that's the complete version. If it's later released as a jewel case game, then thats disk only. There's a few games (becoming more common) that ship right away without a box or manual but it's the general consensus that that's the exception and not the rule.

[magiic]

I think a good feature for goozex would be when you are matched and dont have enough credits or points you are given a 12 hour window to obtain those points or credits. That would allow people to see they got matched and be able to add the points to get the game. Im sure this would make you a lot of additional money in people just buying some points to get a game they have been matched for, or credits.

[slidecage]

I think a good feature for goozex would be when you are matched and dont have enough credits or points you are given a 12 hour window to obtain those points or credits. That would allow people to see they got matched and be able to add the points to get the game. Im sure this would make you a lot of additional money in people just buying some points to get a game they have been matched for, or credits.


I dont think this would work. Take a game where there are 30 people waiting on it.

If no1 buys pts or credits it would be 360 hours till the game would match. What would mean the seller would have to wait 15 days before they got confirmed

I doubt many people will wait 15 days to trade off a game. People complain now that it takes a few hours to match, make it longer and people will leave



Now one way to get threw this would be From the time someone post a game Till it matches Make it like 3 hours . A massive email will be sent to everyone who has requested the game saying the game is avaiable

I know many people dont check email every hour (and some emails just suck and they take hours to get )

But this could be a way to tell people to run out and buy pts without making the seller wait 15 days to match

[magiic]

Just for anybody that uses facebook...
I made a facebook group for Goozex so anyone with an account join up and help spread the word!

http://hs.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2456648856

[cheapfrag]

I got matched with a "buyer" for a PS2 game. The user has 0 games sent, 13 received, no positive, neutral or negative feedback, but has a feedback score of 50. How is that possible? If he was buying points - I could see the no feedback but why would he have a score? Maybe a goozex employee but he's only a member since May 2007...

[SmellsLikeRandyMossGuy]

I got matched with a "buyer" for a PS2 game. The user has 0 games sent, 13 received, no positive, neutral or negative feedback, but has a feedback score of 50. How is that possible? If he was buying points - I could see the no feedback but why would he have a score? Maybe a goozex employee but he's only a member since May 2007...

Maybe you get points for leaving feedback? no idea

[moo]

I just mailed out my first game yesterday to a requester. I hope it goes well. The guy had 20 sent, 17 received, and all positive feedback except for 3 neutrals.

My id is Meadow.

I also made a group but did it with Myspace so if you could, please sign up and help out.

http://groups.myspace.com/Goozex

[Blackout]

I sent Ape Escape out to a person who requested it over a week ago. granted I was late sending it out, but I had PM'd the person and we talked it out. I check my email and the user said he hasn't recieved the game yet, and now my account is disabled. Any way to fix this?

[forgrim]

i just laughed...some guy didn't send me a game in 15+ days and didn't respond to my message so i left him neg and he finally responds with:

"okay $$$$$$. obviously i don't give a shit about negative feedback on this website otherwise i would've sent you the game. catch a fuckin clue, you're not getting it."

I <3 the internet.

edit: mind you, this was supposed to be the first game i've ever received at all so it left a bad taste in my mouth, but another person i matched up with 3 days ago managed to send the game out to me and then offset the bad taste!"

[magiic]

Did you e-mail that to goozex, that guy needs to be banned.

[indigo0086]

I have been having a problem with goozex's support. I mailed them twice without any response, I tried pm'ing goozex here with no response Either. Either way I've had a great goozex experience as long as it's between me and a trader. Except for one case but the person isn't responding and neither is goozex so I wonder if they even care.

[magiic]

I would be ever so happy if someone put Earth Defense Force 2017 up on goozex :)

[TahoeMax]

I think a good feature for goozex would be when you are matched and dont have enough credits or points you are given a 12 hour window to obtain those points or credits. That would allow people to see they got matched and be able to add the points to get the game. Im sure this would make you a lot of additional money in people just buying some points to get a game they have been matched for, or credits.

I think this is a great idea. One day I decided to leave someone a 50-pt tip and then a couple hours later, lo and behold, i get an email saying i didn't get matched for Okami because I was 50 points short. It's been like 2 months since then and i haven't gotten another chance :( a chance to buy those points or add a game that was otherwise unavailable would've been great.

[magiic]

I had that today only I was just fifty points short on EDF2017 and boy was I choked :(

[kojubat]

Thanks for the match on GRAW2, magiic. ;)

[magiic]

you're welcome I should be mailing it tommorow.

[slidecage]

Wow got phone call from cousin saying i got a package in the mail

FUTURERAMA for the ps2 (or whatever its called)

hopefully it works hell the game goes for around 40 on ebay and only cost 100 pts Woo

been looking for it forawhile

[Caliburn]

Wow got phone call from cousin saying i got a package in the mail

FUTURERAMA for the ps2 (or whatever its called)

hopefully it works hell the game goes for around 40 on ebay and only cost 100 pts Woo

been looking for it forawhile

Futurama, yeah.

Worth a lot but the game's so-so. I have two copies - a complete mint copy I got in an irrefusable trade and a second I'm holding on that's mint disc + manual I found at FYE for $10.

Still, worth a whole lot. Complete PS2 copies run the gumut of $30 - $80 on eBay.

[slidecage]

i got to try it out later tonight. Just got home. I might AND big might toss it up on ebay. If i could get a pretty penny for it i would take that cash and go otu and buy some cheap games and toss them back on goozex. Again doubtful cause i would love to keep it in my collection. BUT if it went for 60 i could spare it LOL THen again i probally never find another copy Just like harvest moon Super nintendo,,, Im still kicking myself for selling that

[SmellsLikeRandyMossGuy]

EDIT: No longer important

[iazybandit]

So I got matched up for a game. Sender never responded to my PMs and its been over a week and still no game. Sender has 4 positives and 4 negatives. So how to I make a complaint and to where?

[Mr Unoriginal]

So I got matched up for a game. Sender never responded to my PMs and its been over a week and still no game. Sender has 4 positives and 4 negatives. So how to I make a complaint and to where?

You wait more than a week. If you don't get it after 3 weeks then you could leave negative feedback and get your points back.

[macdude22]

magiic: I matched with you for WarioWare. I'll be getting it in the mail in the morning. I'm going to toss in a couple of extras so as to assure you that not all of us Arrogant Americans are out to screw teh canadian traders. My first trade to Canada what an exciting time.

[Mr Unoriginal]

Magiic, you are getting a lot of stuff from CAGs lately. I got matched with you for Dragon Quest: Rocket Slime. I had a bad experience sending something to Canada, but because it's you, I'll give it another go.

[SmellsLikeRandyMossGuy]

I'm getting so pissed of with waiting weeks to get to #1 for Age of Empires III and then when the seller doesn't respond to the trade or says no, I get kicked to the bottom of the damn list and I have to wait again. I am so pissed of with that shit I almost am thinking of giving up using the service.

Why should I be moved to the bottom when it is the seller's decision. Why should I have to wait all that time again?

The damn system is broken. If the seller says no or doesn't respond, he should be moved to the bottom of the list and the next seller should be brought up. It shouldn't be that damn hard to get a match for the damn disk.

[macdude22]

First canadian trade is off and away. Had to go to the post and get some lil customs slips all I had were biggins ones. Enjoy my northern gaming brethren.

[magiic]

Got your message can't wait to get both those games :)

[magiic]

Hi,

Your games were sent and in perfect condition and protected. I was wanting to know if you would be kind enough to report the feedback on mario golf before you get it so I can sell another game. I fyou get the game and it is not good I will have goozex take the points from the game and give them to you. So in short can you finish the trade on your end and have my trust to do so, so I can send another game.


Please trust me and if the game is bad then I will have goozex give 250 points from mario golf from my profile to yours.

bmoreOs



I just got that from a user who has 3 games sent a 3 games recieved with a feedback score of 30. He mailed me Mario Golf for GCN but forgot to include the disk for it so I just have the case (which arrived today). Should I leave him feedback or wait until everything arrives in a week and a bit as he mailed out Super Smash Bros five or six days late.

[simpsonps121]

I'm getting so pissed of with waiting weeks to get to #1 for Age of Empires III and then when the seller doesn't respond to the trade or says no, I get kicked to the bottom of the damn list and I have to wait again. I am so pissed of with that shit I almost am thinking of giving up using the service.

Why should I be moved to the bottom when it is the seller's decision. Why should I have to wait all that time again?

The damn system is broken. If the seller says no or doesn't respond, he should be moved to the bottom of the list and the next seller should be brought up. It shouldn't be that damn hard to get a match for the damn disk.

I have an Age of Empires III that I would be happy to trade. I had not thought to list it though. If Goozex can give me the points, I am happy to send it. It may still be sealed... but I can't remember.

Username is: simpsonps121

thanks,
matthew

[SmellsLikeRandyMossGuy]

Well for some reason I moved to the bottom of the list for a day or so and then got moved to the top and finally got a trade accepted. Thanks anyways though.

I am curious on Goozex, why do xbox 360 live arcade code cards (which allow you to download the game) trade for more money than the games do on the arcade itself?

[lurknomore]

Well for some reason I moved to the bottom of the list for a day or so and then got moved to the top and finally got a trade accepted. Thanks anyways though.

I am curious on Goozex, why do xbox 360 live arcade code cards (which allow you to download the game) trade for more money than the games do on the arcade itself?

It is based on supply and demand...and even though it is easy to calculate "how much" Goozex points are valued at in the real world...to some people, spending more Goozex points is easier than spending real world dollars.

[magiic]

I got my goozex shirt today woohoo
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t56/blackmagiic/DSC08722.jpg

[kklems]

Same trader sent a nice copy of warioware to me with case and manual but not disc. He responded to my emails and sent the disc out so you might want to pm and see what is going in. I just need to find time to try the disc so I can leave feedback. Guess he left the discs in some kind of portable holder and didnt remember to pull them out
Hi,

Your games were sent and in perfect condition and protected. I was wanting to know if you would be kind enough to report the feedback on mario golf before you get it so I can sell another game. I fyou get the game and it is not good I will have goozex take the points from the game and give them to you. So in short can you finish the trade on your end and have my trust to do so, so I can send another game.


Please trust me and if the game is bad then I will have goozex give 250 points from mario golf from my profile to yours.

bmoreOs



I just got that from a user who has 3 games sent a 3 games recieved with a feedback score of 30. He mailed me Mario Golf for GCN but forgot to include the disk for it so I just have the case (which arrived today). Should I leave him feedback or wait until everything arrives in a week and a bit as he mailed out Super Smash Bros five or six days late.

[magiic]

Same trader sent a nice copy of warioware to me with case and manual but not disc. He responded to my emails and sent the disc out so you might want to pm and see what is going in. I just need to find time to try the disc so I can leave feedback. Guess he left the discs in some kind of portable holder and didnt remember to pull them out

Glad to hear you got the disk in the end. Seems like this guy needs to work on getting his shit together. Most people do not enjoy mistakes like that. Im pretty choked he not only mailed out one of my games late he also forgot the disk for the first one.

[lurknomore]

I got my goozex shirt today woohoo
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t56/blackmagiic/DSC08722.jpg

magiic...that isn't your man-purse on the counter, is it? If so, Canadians have a weird fashion sense, but I love the Maple-leafed Goozex monster.

[slidecage]

one thing i would like to see added is an ALL button

This way you can move all your items to hold instead of doing them one by one by one. when you have lot of items listed to sell its a pain in the butt to keep moving them from active to hold.

or some type of button that allows you to put your trades on hold but still allows you to get items (though guess hold would do this LOL)

just got matched today for 2 more games

burnout legends PSP (got to see if brother will give it back )
kingdom hearts 2 ps 2


after this i will have close to 15,000 pts OUCH

[wckddudeman]

wow slide... wish i had that many points.... it seems once a month someone wants one of my old comp games. so I finally got enough points to get 2 xbox 360 gams(PGR3 and Perfect Dark CE).

[indigo0086]

Here's a tip. DON'T SEND SCRATCHED GAMES. Either that or take care of them. I have received two scratched games for ps2, neither of which I can test for a large duration of time because I'm still playing their prequels (ratched and clank: Going commando and jak III). There really should be some standards set with what kind of games are sent. Either that or people need to look at the damned things before they send them out (let alone add them to their library list). I have quite a few xbox 1 games, none of which have scratches like the ones I'm getting. This is ridiculous.

[macdude22]

Well to be honest I take good care of my games but if I get them from wherever and they play I'm not one to complain. I usually keep a bottle of Wipe-Out around incase I get a funkadelic disk.

[slidecage]

Here's a tip. DON'T SEND SCRATCHED GAMES. Either that or take care of them. I have received two scratched games for ps2, neither of which I can test for a large duration of time because I'm still playing their prequels (ratched and clank: Going commando and jak III). There really should be some standards set with what kind of games are sent. Either that or people need to look at the damned things before they send them out (let alone add them to their library list). I have quite a few xbox 1 games, none of which have scratches like the ones I'm getting. This is ridiculous.


never happen cause one persons 1 scratch is another person "this game is junk and i dont want it game"

[indigo0086]

never happen cause one persons 1 scratch is another person &quot;this game is junk and i dont want it game&quot; I'm not talking about one scratch, I'm talking about a surface laced with scratches. No matter how much it supposedly plays, it's still a uncared for game that was sent to my house. People should be able to use judgement on these kinds of things. I've gotten some old games in better condition than the ones I have got recently.

[chargeup45]

Question for Goozex about Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventure (GCN): there's no listing for the game with or without the GBA cable. Is it assumed to have it or not? Perhaps you could add a clarification on the game's page:

http://www.goozex.com/trading/asp/itemdetail.asp?item=11622

I'll probably be putting my copy there soon (no cable), but I'll be sure to e-mail the matched member about it.

[sallyballs]

(username = squidget)

You're squidget on Goozex? We matched on sending me MUA: Gold Edition :applause:

[macdude22]

Question for Goozex about Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventure (GCN): there's no listing for the game with or without the GBA cable. Is it assumed to have it or not? Perhaps you could add a clarification on the game's page:

http://www.goozex.com/trading/asp/itemdetail.asp?item=11622

I'll probably be putting my copy there soon (no cable), but I'll be sure to e-mail the matched member about it.

If you select full package it's expected it will come with the cable. If you select disk+manual or lower there is no expectation it will come with the cable (but you're free to send the full package sans cable). This is what I did with FF Crystal Chronicles, I listed it at disk+manual. Though the user was all annoyed it didn't come with the cable I sent what I had listed.

[SmellsLikeRandyMossGuy]

I wish there was a bigger queue. I have mine packed all the time, it's hard to ever get anything if you're always 2 or 3 in the line and the game never trades because of whatever reason.

[magiic]

Thanks for the games guys. Dragon Quest & Wario Ware are great. And I appreciate the added goodies.

@lurknomore
lol I was in the kitchen, that's my moms purse :P

[encendido5]

dangit... that's another contest we old users can't sign up for.

[ryoga79]

Just had my first person request a cancel. Had already put the game in the package and forgot to take it to the post office when I came home and saw the request. I pm'd him earlier and this is what he said:

Subject:

The reason I want to cancel is....
Message:

.....because there are a dozen other games I'd rather have for 100 points than Spawn: The Eternal. Simple as that.

I'll agree to cancel...just think it sucks. ah well. need more games to get rid of and trade I guess. lol

[macdude22]

Just had my first person request a cancel. Had already put the game in the package and forgot to take it to the post office when I came home and saw the request. I pm'd him earlier and this is what he said:

Subject:

The reason I want to cancel is....
Message:

.....because there are a dozen other games I'd rather have for 100 points than Spawn: The Eternal. Simple as that.

I'll agree to cancel...just think it sucks. ah well. need more games to get rid of and trade I guess. lol

That's kind of a sassy reply, I probably would have still mailed it. I had someone request a cancel because they had bought the game and forgot to remove it from their request list.

[ryoga79]

That's kind of a sassy reply, I probably would have still mailed it. I had someone request a cancel because they had bought the game and forgot to remove it from their request list.


Yea, I read it and immediately thought "What a smart-ass......"

Ah well, maybe someone else will want my shitty games. lol

[simpsonps121]

I have LOVED trading in the month of July. I have added a ton of 100 pt games to my list, and have gotten a TON of games. :-)

Is there anyway we can add free trades to this site?

Here is a quick breakdown of what I see:

Problem: 100 pt games are not worth spending a $1 per trade for. (You can just buy them for $5 or so at EB.)

Problem: So there is a bunch of 100 pt games that no one is trading for.

Problem: We queu (sp?) up waiting for the bigger point games. Everyone waits, few trades are done.

Problem with free trades: It cuts goozex out of profit. I am all for profit. :-)

Solution: Make cheaper games free to trade?
Solution: Make trades free after a certain amount of pts? (That way your big senders get benefits..)

Who knows, just a thought. But thanks for the free trades in July. It has been FUN!!

Matt

[macdude22]

I bought trade credits in bulk so it was less than a dollar a trade. I don't really mind getting or sending 100 point games. I get to play games, they get to play games, maybe it's not the most efficient method for these cheep games but hey it works for me. Buck a trade for those games is still cheaper than going to lamestop and it will probably be in better condition.

[SmellsLikeRandyMossGuy]

Avoid cturner, that jerkass sent me a blockbuster case and the disk when I requested the full package. I didn't notice it at the time, but he has done this to other people. People like that shouldn't be allowed on Goozex, since they just waste people's time and points/money.

[slidecage]

I have LOVED trading in the month of July. I have added a ton of 100 pt games to my list, and have gotten a TON of games. :-)

Is there anyway we can add free trades to this site?

Here is a quick breakdown of what I see:

Problem: 100 pt games are not worth spending a $1 per trade for. (You can just buy them for $5 or so at EB.)

Problem: So there is a bunch of 100 pt games that no one is trading for.

Problem: We queu (sp?) up waiting for the bigger point games. Everyone waits, few trades are done.

Problem with free trades: It cuts goozex out of profit. I am all for profit. :-)

Solution: Make cheaper games free to trade?
Solution: Make trades free after a certain amount of pts? (That way your big senders get benefits..)

Who knows, just a thought. But thanks for the free trades in July. It has been FUN!!

Matt

Umm i like trading for 100 pt games

say i trade a game for 700 pts what i paid 10 bucks for . I can then BUY 7 100 pt games meaning i paid around 1.66 per game

I mean i just picked up

burnout legends DS and Prince of persia DS for 100 pts each and there are around 10 more im looking for hoping they fall to 100 (though they are 150 to 200 now that is how cheap i am LOL)

I think maybe have a 50 pt game range on some of the older PS2 games that are not moving for 100 pts . then again how many people would dump their games off for 50 pts . Im sort of shocked im getting games for 100 pts. I know myself around 200 to 300 is the cut off limit that i usually mail stuff out


I really need to stop sending stuff out or start requesting a lot more stuff after these next two things that match quickly after putting them up


right now have

17,200 pts

then after listing
DS web browser sealed (though might take to ebay ---- 700 pts
Pokemon pearl hopefully in week or two listing 700 pts
WW smooth moves probally sometime next week 800 pts

If i list all of those and they go quickly i would have over 19,000 pts

after those i probally put all of my games on hold until i get down to around 10,000.....

[vinhjdao]

Umm i like trading for 100 pt games

say i trade a game for 700 pts what i paid 10 bucks for . I can then BUY 7 100 pt games meaning i paid around 1.66 per game


Assuming you paid for shipping on your 700 point game and the $1 trading fee for each 100 point game, you're paying around $2.75 per game.

[magiic]

It kind of sucks I cant send 100 point games as it costs me $4 to ship them and kind of makes it not worth it :(

[macdude22]

*sigh* /startsortarant.

I just got feedback on a game today, Hotel Dusk. I think some people are just too darn picky. The plastic on the back of the case had a slice in it that was there when I bought it at Wal-mart (looked like they prolly nicked it with a box cutter). Other than that it was in excellent condition, better condition that a lot of games I get. Yea it's positive feedback still but it seems like a needless complaint. I mean the game works, the case is overall in excellent condition, I shipped it 2 days before the "ship" date. Maybe I'm just tired and in a bad mood, every user is entitled to their own opinion I suppose.
/endsortarant

Dear Alexander,

Congratulations! User <*****> reported positive feedback for the game "Hotel Dusk: Room 215" that you recently traded.


Feedback:
The game I received plays perfectly and the condition is as I requested, but the overall package quality is not as good as expected

Comment:
Cover was sliced along the spine, but otherwise great condition!

[Mr Unoriginal]

*sigh* /startsortarant.

I just got feedback on a game today, Hotel Dusk. I think some people are just too darn picky. The plastic on the back of the case had a slice in it that was there when I bought it at Wal-mart (looked like they prolly nicked it with a box cutter). Other than that it was in excellent condition, better condition that a lot of games I get. Yea it's positive feedback still but it seems like a needless complaint. I mean the game works, the case is overall in excellent condition, I shipped it 2 days before the "ship" date. Maybe I'm just tired and in a bad mood, every user is entitled to their own opinion I suppose.
/endsortarant

I would have left similar feedback. It shouldn't matter much to you since people don't look at your feedback before letting you send them a game though.

[macdude22]

I would have left similar feedback. It shouldn't matter much to you since people don't look at your feedback before letting you send them a game though.

Fair enough, I defer that ok feedback has been met.

[xtchuh]

Avoid cturner, that jerkass sent me a blockbuster case and the disk when I requested the full package. I didn't notice it at the time, but he has done this to other people. People like that shouldn't be allowed on Goozex, since they just waste people's time and points/money.


I remember having several games with Manual, Disk and Blockbuster cover and I just put it as Manual/Disk, or have just the Blockbuster Black Cover and Disk and have it listed as just Disk.

[SmellsLikeRandyMossGuy]

Avoid cturner, that jerkass sent me a blockbuster case and the disk when I requested the full package. I didn't notice it at the time, but he has done this to other people. People like that shouldn't be allowed on Goozex, since they just waste people's time and points/money.

I sent him a message telling him he sent me the wrong stuff and he said this...

Go cry to your mom you F'ing baby...

and

I got a good laugh!

Enjoy the game.

Can we get him kicked off the service or what?

[pcktlnt]

I'm curious, do you guys actually play all the games you guys request from Goozex? I traded two 360 games and picked up 7 pc games and 5 ps2 games, that I don't think I'll ever get the chance to play. (The games I requested were 100 points.) That's in addition to the backlog of other games I have purchased in store. I think I have enough video games to last me a few years at the rate I'm playing/completing them...

Cheers :)

[magiic]

I sent him a message telling him he sent me the wrong stuff and he said this...

Go cry to your mom you F'ing baby...

and

I got a good laugh!

Enjoy the game.

Can we get him kicked off the service or what?

Definitely forward that to goozex and get him banned, we dont want people like him on the service.

[slidecage]

I need help cause i dont know what to do i might be doing this wrong

Okay i listed a few games i think last night and was going to confirm today cause I knew they would match. Games matched

BUT

I know for a fact that i wont be able to get to the post office till Thursday or friday

What do i do

DO I HIT CONFIRM 3 DAYS = weds even though i know i wont be able to send until Friday 2 days later then confirm


Do i hit wait till tuesday (timing out twice then hit confirm though im tying up this persons spot for all of these days and might want something else instead

Or

Do i just say NO on the trade and put it on hold and relist it Monday


i just did the 3rd thing but i dont know if that was the right thing to do.... sure i just relist it now and hopefully the same person gets matched on it or what

[magiic]

I'm thinking do the 3 day option and PM the guy asking if he is ok with it being shipped late and if not you'll cancel the trade. Hows that sound?

[slidecage]

I'm thinking do the 3 day option and PM the guy asking if he is ok with it being shipped late and if not you'll cancel the trade. Hows that sound?


DOH!!! never thought about that.... i could of pm the dude saying i could confirm 3 days but it wouldnt ship till friday. I could pm them before accepting the trade. i probally just stick them back up later on and do that next time

thanks

[ManChowder]

I sent him a message telling him he sent me the wrong stuff and he said this...

Go cry to your mom you F'ing baby...

and

I got a good laugh!

Enjoy the game.

Can we get him kicked off the service or what?

This crap just plain sucks. His attitude shows that he probably sent you the wrong stuff intentionally.
Until Goozex comes up with a way to deal with people like that I would just report the game as not working & get your points back. The simple fact that a person can send something totally different than requested & only receive a neutral is retarded... and don't they get to keep the points?

Hell if I needed the points couldn't I just list a 1000 point game and send the person a copy of Madden 2001? If they followed the rules they would only be able to leave a neutral and be out 1000 points. I wouldn't have to worry about anything because obviously it takes a TON of infractions to get banned.

For example I'm receiving a DS game from a guy who (while he has a high feedback score) has 13 negative feedback for games not received. Even worse is his last 4 games sent out were all reported as NOT RECEIVED! Here's hoping that I actually receive something.

[slidecage]

What would you leave if you got a game from england ???

Got a ds game

its got the england and french flag on the back and its in a big thick plastic box (like the boxes they lock the games in at some stores)

its battles of prince of persia for the ds

what feedback should i leave cause i have no use for a forgin game (i dont even know if it will play on my ds)

[simpsonps121]

Grrr.. For the 2nd time in a week a sender has not paid all the postage. This one is off by $2.80... GRRRRR...

Matthew

[ManChowder]

What would you leave if you got a game from england ???

Got a ds game

its got the england and french flag on the back and its in a big thick plastic box (like the boxes they lock the games in at some stores)

its battles of prince of persia for the ds

what feedback should i leave cause i have no use for a forgin game (i dont even know if it will play on my ds)


The game should play regardless since I don't believe that the DS has region protection. I would assume it's all in english so you should be able to play it, however it's still not exactly what you requested.

I'm assuming you would have to leave him a Neutral for "received the wrong game", or Negative for the game not working if it does not work in your DS. It should work so you may just need to leave the neutral. The guy really should have checked with you before sending that.

[slidecage]

The game should play regardless since I don't believe that the DS has region protection. I would assume it's all in english so you should be able to play it, however it's still not exactly what you requested.

I'm assuming you would have to leave him a Neutral for "received the wrong game", or Negative for the game not working if it does not work in your DS. It should work so you may just need to leave the neutral. The guy really should have checked with you before sending that.

might be from germany what money has the little

werid looking f

says f 12.99 on the back of the game

[magiic]

it's not germany all of europe uses the same money now except england I believe they still use the pounds. My guess is it's 12.99 euro or 12.99 pounds. Have you tried the game? Im sure it will work just fine.

[slidecage]

it's not germany all of europe uses the same money now except england I believe they still use the pounds. My guess is it's 12.99 euro or 12.99 pounds. Have you tried the game? Im sure it will work just fine.

point is i cant retrade it since its not a game people think they are getting i know i have no use for it

[JTWise]

Just got matched with a guy with 1 prior trade with only neutral feedback as he didn't send the complete package, only the disc. I tried to be proactive and sent a PM saying to cancel if he wasn't going to ship the full package - we will see what I get. Only a 100 point game, so so biggie anyway.

I have been enjoying the service for around a month but there seem to be 3 types of members - the people that take care of games and ship them when they say they will in proper packaging, the people that ship scratched discs and generally ship late, and the scammers.

Any tips for boosting your points cheaply? I picked up a couple good games from CC clearance and traded them, but what is the secret for those of you with 10,000+ points?

[slidecage]

Just got matched with a guy with 1 prior trade with only neutral feedback as he didn't send the complete package, only the disc. I tried to be proactive and sent a PM saying to cancel if he wasn't going to ship the full package - we will see what I get. Only a 100 point game, so so biggie anyway.

I have been enjoying the service for around a month but there seem to be 3 types of members - the people that take care of games and ship them when they say they will in proper packaging, the people that ship scratched discs and generally ship late, and the scammers.

Any tips for boosting your points cheaply? I picked up a couple good games from CC clearance and traded them, but what is the secret for those of you with 10,000+ points?


really there are no secrets. the only way i got this many pts is buy trading 500-1000 pts games and mostly just requesting 100 pt games

send in 1000 pt game it nets you 10 -- 100 pt games

also i had around 500 games just lying around the house collecting dust on them so i might as well trade them

Also it didnt hurt to have older sports games fetch insane prices
College hoops 2k7 got like 700pts
ncaa 2006 got like 550 pts
ect


closing in at 18k. and really there is nothing listed that i want. Now when this xmas comes i will probally blow a lot of pts on gifts LOL FREE GIFTS

[magiic]

I think goozex should add a little timer thing next to titles that are "matched awaiting confirmation" to tell us how long until it times out so we know when the time out will happen so we can bail on it for whatever reason if we wish to.

[slidecage]

LOL I keep clicking on the wrong items, i need to put stuff in my wish list but i add them to my libary

[JTWise]

I think goozex should add a little timer thing next to titles that are "matched awaiting confirmation" to tell us how long until it times out so we know when the time out will happen so we can bail on it for whatever reason if we wish to.

Sounds like a good idea. In my case, I would be interested in knowing how long someone has left to accept a trade. I have been on and off in "matching awaiting confirmation" for Kingdom Hearts for almost a week. Not sure why I can't just get someone to commit to shipping it.

[slidecage]

Sounds like a good idea. In my case, I would be interested in knowing how long someone has left to accept a trade. I have been on and off in "matching awaiting confirmation" for Kingdom Hearts for almost a week. Not sure why I can't just get someone to commit to shipping it.

trade matches last 24 hours and you will be match 3 times to the same seller

so 3 days

[csidegamer]

I think goozex should add a little timer thing next to titles that are "matched awaiting confirmation" to tell us how long until it times out so we know when the time out will happen so we can bail on it for whatever reason if we wish to.

I've had one awaiting approval since Thursday of last week. Still no notice that the game shipped. Sent Goozex an email to check it out. If it timed out I want my points back.

[magiic]

trade matches last 24 hours and you will be match 3 times to the same seller

so 3 days

We want to know exactly when the 24 hour times out tough. Lately I've been wanting to cancel some games between the 24 hour periods because Im tired of the game tying up points while whoever I am matched with is out fucking the dog or something

[phear3d]

the most ive ever gotten on goozex was 2200 point, i thought that was alot. but man, 50k?

thats not impossible to achieve though. just looking through some "available now" stuff and noticed The Darkness for 360 is 1000 points. Enchanted Arms for Ps3 is 600 points ($20 new/$18 used at EB/GS), and many more titles with high point value.

[phear3d]

I have been having a problem with goozex's support. I mailed them twice without any response, I tried pm'ing goozex here with no response Either. Either way I've had a great goozex experience as long as it's between me and a trader. Except for one case but the person isn't responding and neither is goozex so I wonder if they even care.

they will NEVER respond to any emails. they do their jobs though, but for them to respond, thats like asking for a prophecy to come true. its probably because theres like 2 or 3 of them that answers all the emails.

[csidegamer]

trade matches last 24 hours and you will be match 3 times to the same seller

so 3 days

I think it should kick to a new seller, rather than 3 days on the same.

[csidegamer]

they will NEVER respond to any emails. they do their jobs though, but for them to respond, thats like asking for a prophecy to come true. its probably because theres like 2 or 3 of them that answers all the emails.

They just responded to my email from yesterday.
Clarifying the confirmation period for a seller.

[macdude22]

For whatever reason it seems spam filters can be overly aggressive with email from goozex. Eating some and leaving others, it may help to try emailing them from an alternate address.

[jmiller80]

they will NEVER respond to any emails. they do their jobs though, but for them to respond, thats like asking for a prophecy to come true. its probably because theres like 2 or 3 of them that answers all the emails.

AFAIK, there are only three people behind Goozex, and I think they may be overwhelmed between e-mail and the administrativa of running the business. Posting here or PMing Goozex on CAG are slightly more reliable methods to get a response.

You might also try posting on the forums on the Goozex site. I would guess they read those forums regularly -- and those have moderators whom the Goozex guys are in regular contact with.

[Goozex]

Hey everyone. Now is a good time to pop up here again...after a long time away.

A few quick points about email and our response.

1. We have our own help forums at Goozex...if it is a non-urgent request, we recommend you go there instead of here since I am much more involved over there now. You might recognize some of our moderators too...

2. PMing me via CAG is a good way to get a quick response

3. bad trades that need a refund almost always get processed within 24 hours.

3. Depending on the situation, emailing help @ goozex may take 2 - 4 days.

Please make sure your spam filters accept emails from Goozex. We have had a lot of emails bounce back b/c of this and we cannot get around this on our end.

Also, please give us as much detail as possible and anything else that would help us speed up the process. This includes Goozex PMs, who the other member is, what game, etc.

I hope that helps.

And in the end, we are sorry if we've been unreasonably long with our help responses.

[NWgamer666]

After reading through a few pages of this thread, Goozex sounds a lot more complicated and more of a hassle than Gametz.com

Waiting for confirmation? people being allowed to trade w/ negative feed back? One unresolved BTR on gametz and your done trading, no one would trade with you. Plus, I don't have to pay the website for trades if I don't want to, because it's add supported or subscription based.

Anyone use both sites and have a thoughtful comparison?

[Snake2715]

After reading through a few pages of this thread, Goozex sounds a lot more complicated and more of a hassle than Gametz.com

Waiting for confirmation? people being allowed to trade w/ negative feed back? One unresolved BTR on gametz and your done trading, no one would trade with you. Plus, I don't have to pay the website for trades if I don't want to, because it's add supported or subscription based.

Anyone use both sites and have a thoughtful comparison?

In short....

I dont use Gametz at all anymore.

Goozex is better for me.

I dont have to have an exact match of what I want and what a seller/trader wants to get a deal..

I get rid of what I need/want to and then I use that "credit" to get what I want...

This is a much more reliable option as far as I am concerned.

[genfuyung]

I was thinking of signing up for goozex. Is it safe? I keep hearing that its run by 3 guys. That makes me think it might not be so safe.

[genfuyung]

If i end up signing up for it does anyone have a resistance fall of amn complete with everything and original box (not blockbuster box)? Im looking to trade dead rising and then use those points for it. The only way Ill end up using this service is if I can trade with people from these forums that are reputable. Ive never had a problem with trading with people on other forums. But ive heard a lot of stories already about goozex members screwing people and reading back on this thread i can see it happens to people here too when they dont deal with each other.

[simpsonps121]

I use both gametz and goozex.

Basically, I only get 300pt games or higher from goozex. Rarely will I trade in 100 pt games.

Gametz gets everything else from me. :-)

They both work great. You can sort of use one to get deals with the other and vice-versa.

Matthew

[jmiller80]

I was thinking of signing up for goozex. Is it safe? I keep hearing that its run by 3 guys. That makes me think it might not be so safe.

I've found Goozex safe. I have sent 46+ games and received 11 games so far and have had no problems to speak of. There are bad eggs everywhere, but the Goozex system is setup pretty well to limit their damage.

There really isn't a need to worry because Goozex is still run by the founders. They do a good job of making things right when something goes wrong. Also, they are cool, reasonable guys. Their presence on CAG and in the CAG community is one part of this.

[Caliburn]

After reading through a few pages of this thread, Goozex sounds a lot more complicated and more of a hassle than Gametz.com

Waiting for confirmation? people being allowed to trade w/ negative feed back? One unresolved BTR on gametz and your done trading, no one would trade with you. Plus, I don't have to pay the website for trades if I don't want to, because it's add supported or subscription based.

Anyone use both sites and have a thoughtful comparison?

I like GameTZ because traders have nearly all control over what's involved in the trade. It's real easy to add games to your lists and designate what's not for trade (collection). You can make some real good deals on GameTZ.

Goozex is also great because it's fast, efficient, and the founders/aka tech support have always been fast to respond to issues. The value of games now are much more balanced than they were a year ago. I have mirrored trading lists on both sites.

[Logg]

I am going to make my first trade on Goozex this weekend.

[JTWise]

I finally got someone to commit to shipping Kingdom Hearts - 7 days after the match process started. I agree with what was said earlier, it sucks having points tied up for so long for a pending trade when the guys on the other side just won't commit. Still, I can't think of a better way of doing it.

Also, the guy with only one neutral trade did finally ship and it was in perfect shape. I guess you got to give people the benefit of the doubt once in a while.

[simpsonps121]

What do I do when I receive the wrong edition? I requested Movies - Premier Edition, and received the regular edition... I already have the regular edition...

Thanks,
Matthew

[SmellsLikeRandyMossGuy]

When will the site be fixed? I keep getting the message it's being worked on when I try to leave feedback.

[magiic]

What do I do when I receive the wrong edition? I requested Movies - Premier Edition, and received the regular edition... I already have the regular edition...

Thanks,
Matthew

I personally would leave negative because I am so tired of people thinking it's ok to do shit like that. HOWEVER, the accepted method is to leave neutral saying got the wrong game. Which sucks you because seller recieves no real penalty, and you get stuck with a game you dont need/want, and are also out the points.

[FrankTheFrowner]

When will the site be fixed? I keep getting the message it's being worked on when I try to leave feedback.

Me too. Is this a site-wide problem?

[DeskLaser]

To any of the other winners of Goozex promotions, such as the CAG DS Lite promos, etc, about how long did it take to get your item? I was told the PS3 I won should get to me soon, which was fine, but now that my Xbox 360 just died, it would be nice to get it soon.

[ManChowder]

I personally would leave negative because I am so tired of people thinking it's ok to do shit like that. HOWEVER, the accepted method is to leave neutral saying got the wrong game. Which sucks you because seller recieves no real penalty, and you get stuck with a game you dont need/want, and are also out the points.

I totally agree about leaving a negative, I plan on doing so for all future transactions where the trader (obviously intentionally) sends the wrong game or sends the game incomplete.
If they want to take advantage of the system to screw me then I'll gladly screw them back. Luckily for me 12 of my last 13 game trades have been with good people, so no problems whatsoever.

[JTWise]

Man that "turns to go" can really be deceiving sometimes. I was "48 turns" left to go on Shadowrun and I just matched. Definately the furthest out I have even been (usually I match at around 10-20 turns to go).

Time to try to stock up on points. I burnt through 2000 in about 5 days.

[msdmoney]

I'm thinking of trying goozex, are there any new promos, I missed the PS3 promo.

[DeskLaser]

It was about the same for me as it was with JTWise with Resistance for PS3. I requested it, was about 40 or so in line, and got matched almost right away. It also happened with some other PS3 games, but I didn't have credit for any of the others yet. I guess all the people in front of me either requested more of a package than me (I request disc only as default), or did not have enough points at the time of the match.

[JTWise]

More than likely everyone's mad trading pace drained accounts below the 1000 point level for a new 360/ps3 game. All of those people in the queue ahead of you probably didn't match because they didn't have enough points. I just wish I would have know that earlier since I burnt 1000 points on old ps2 games that I hadn't played before. If I knew that Shadowrun was going to trade so quick (relative to my place in line at least), I would have saved those points for Forza 2.

An a side note , I had to give my first NEUTRAL rating today. Some ass clown shipped my SOCOM II in a gamestop case when he agreed to send "Full Package." At least the game and manual were in good condition. Could have been worse, it was only a 200 point game. I would be pissed if it was a 1000 point game.

Finally, am I the only person that does USPS delivery confirmation? When I ship a game, I always PM the DC# right after shipping so that the person knows when it shipped and that I am a serious trader. In the 7 or so games I have receieved, I haven't even got a courtesy PM saying it was shipped, much less a DC. Maybe I am just anal. :booty:


It was about the same for me as it was with JTWise with Resistance for PS3. I requested it, was about 40 or so in line, and got matched almost right away. It also happened with some other PS3 games, but I didn't have credit for any of the others yet. I guess all the people in front of me either requested more of a package than me (I request disc only as default), or did not have enough points at the time of the match.

[csidegamer]

Finally, am I the only person that does USPS delivery confirmation? When I ship a game, I always PM the DC# right after shipping so that the person knows when it shipped and that I am a serious trader. In the 7 or so games I have receieved, I haven't even got a courtesy PM saying it was shipped, much less a DC. Maybe I am just anal. :booty:

I only contact the buyer if I am late to ship.
I alway get dc as it is cheap when printing the shipping label thru paypal (just to cover my ass tho). I don't typically send the info to the buyer unless the ask for it.

[suko_32]

So it's been 5 days since the item has been delivered, and I've yet to receive a feedback nor response from the guy who requested a game (Pikmin 2). Getting the feeling he's just going to take the game. Is the next step to ask once more or just ask Goozex to do something?

[kojubat]

So it's been 5 days since the item has been delivered, and I've yet to receive a feedback nor response from the guy who requested a game (Pikmin 2). Getting the feeling he's just going to take the game. Is the next step to ask once more or just ask Goozex to do something?
If they don't give you any feedback at all, it defaults to positive feedback after three weeks. From the FAQ (http://www.goozex.com/trading/asp/about_faq.asp):

What if a member that I have sent a game to provides zero feedback?

Goozex will allow 3 weeks for feedback. After that time has passed, Goozex will mark the trade as a good trade and provide the sender with positive feedback.

[magiic]

I hate when I get matched for a game and then the person just decides not to accept that trade. I got all excited because I finally matched for EDF2017

[oxidative]

I totally agree about leaving a negative, I plan on doing so for all future transactions where the trader (obviously intentionally) sends the wrong game or sends the game incomplete.
If they want to take advantage of the system to screw me then I'll gladly screw them back. Luckily for me 12 of my last 13 game trades have been with good people, so no problems whatsoever.


I'm running into a similar problem. I left a neutral, with explanation, and it got CHANGED to a positive when the sender balked. Pretty lame.

I wrote all about it here:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148078

[ManChowder]

I'm running into a similar problem. I left a neutral, with explanation, and it got CHANGED to a positive when the sender balked. Pretty lame.

I wrote all about it here:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148078

In all seriousness there isn't much point to sending the neutral anyways. Unless the guy gets A LOT of Neutrals he'll never receive any consequences.
I could totally clear a bunch of disc only/complete but with incomplete manual condition games from my library list if I felt like being dishonest, and there is about a 99% chance that nothing bad would happen to me.

The only option would be to list the feedback as Negative for being damaged or not working, and not give give an explanation. This would be the only way to make sure the guy got a negative and for you to get your points back.

I really want to do this to the nest person that screws me, but I consider myself an honest person and doing this would no doubt bug me with guilt forever.

I love Goozex but this loophole in the system REALLY needs to be addressed. The fact that someone can be totally dishonest about the games they send and it's totally cool with the rules is just plain craziness.
Perhaps the craziest loophole is the fact that I could list something, send something totally different, and only get a neutral. I'd even get to keep the points!

[lord_ebonstone]

I made this gargantuan post in the other, newer Goozex thread. Thing is, the more I think about it, the more I feel like cashing out on Goozex and never coming back. You hit a wall when you've gotten all the old stuff you could want... and then have to wait six months to get a new release. Here goes:

I don't think Goozex is worth the headache. I've been with the site for a few months now and done plenty of trades, but the people who run the place either have some of the worst judgement I've seen or are just too fucking lazy to iron out the bugs and user-unfriendly aspects of their system.

Examples:

Don't know the bugs? Too bad!

Goozex prevents users from adding future releases to their "wants" list, presumably with the notion that once it's released, everyone should have an equal chance to scramble and get the game on their want list, and then games are served in first-come, first-serve order.

With this in mind, check the "Top 10 Requested" list. You can do this by going to the homepage and clicking "Top Ten Lists" on the left navigation bar. Here are the top five games for your convienience:

1 John Woo Presents Stranglehold -- Comes out 8/27. 39 Requests.
2 Too Human -- Comes out "12/31/2008." 26 Requests.
3 Mario Strikers Charged -- Already out, should be the only one of these five that can be added to wants!
4 John Woo Presents Stranglehold: Collector's Edition -- Comes out 8/27. 19 Requests.
5 Two Worlds -- Comes out 8/21. 43 Requests.

Seems like a bug, right? Well, only partially. For a window of time after games get added to the system, they can be added to want lists, probably because the Goozex staff is slow in putting the actual release dates on the individual database entires.

So the right thing would be just to purge all the Requests and let everyone add it at the release date rollover, right? Not according to the Goozex staff! In their ignorance, they will allow these Requests to stand! Interested in Two Worlds for the 360? Well, once you're able to add it to your want list, the best postition you can get is #44! Which leads us to point #2:

Supply, meet Demand.

At 44th place (or worse!) in line, let's face it, it's going to be an eternity before you see that game. Hell, it already takes an eternity if you're 10th in line... unless you're looking for something from six months ago or more (http://www.goozex.com/trading/asp/top10list-showlist.asp?listtype=1). But we've all heard of Supply and Demand, right? Games with a ton of requests and no supply should be worth more, and games with a ton of supply and no requests should be worth less, right?

Wrong! Point values are set from on high by Goozex staff, (hint: they're generally retail prices converted to Goozex points, 100 points = $5), and the staff never adapts point values to accomidate for supply and demand. It's why GRAW 360 (http://www.goozex.com/trading/asp/itemdetail.asp?item=13115) is still worth 600 points ($30) despite there being 141 copies for trade and just 12 requests!

Of course it works in the opposite direction too. A brand spanking new game is worth its retail weight in Goozex points. But then, so is a game that's almost a year old now (http://www.goozex.com/trading/asp/itemdetail.asp?item=13286).

Anyone who's traded or sold a game before knows that new stuff is worth more. It's in higher demand. Let's say a Goozex user buys, I dunno, Two Worlds. He plays it for a day and figures out it's not for him. What are his options?

-Sell it on eBay for what he paid for it, give or take a couple dollars.
-Put it on a trade forum and get pretty much anything he wants within reason from an interested trader, as the other trader is willing to cough up more for a new release.
-Trade it in at a game trading store and get a pretty good credit return.
-Put it on Goozex, watch it get snapped up instantly, get 1000 points and go become #44 in line for a game he actually wants.

Unless you're a real noob, who in their right mind would add a new release to Goozex within, oh, a month since release? Goozex's "fair" (cough, communist) economy actively discourages the offering of new titles because the returns are so bad compared to practically every other alternative.

Goozex's staff could do quite a bit to remedy this problem. They could inflate new release point values. They could allow point "bidding" for games, allowing users to control their own position in line and granting suppliers more incentive to trade in new games. They could grant users who trade in new titles a one-use "fast pass" that would immediately ascend the user to number, oh, 5 in a queue.

Such methods would facilitate more trades and get the Goozex team more money. But none of this ever dawned to the Goozex staff. Or maybe it did and it got stonewalled by one of the project lead's sense of "fairness" (the same sense of "fairness" that ensures you're never close to the top in queues for new releases... unless you see the page before it gets updated, which is oh-so-vulnerable to insider stacking). Or maybe they were too concerned with making you a walking advertisement (http://www.goozex.com/community/forums/t/177.aspx). Who knows.

Eventually when using Goozex, you catch up to all those old games you wanted to try, and then... you have a bunch of points left over and nothing to spend them on. Unless you want to try your luck with #44. It's the ultimate failing of every communist system.

Go do some research on the story of the DDR and Trabis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trabi) if you don't believe me.

[ManChowder]

Sounds like you already made up your mind about Goozex, if you feel this strongly you should simply cash-out and be done with it. That seems the logical thing unless your intent is to scare others off or away from the site.

Personally I love using Goozex despite the fact that there are some problems here and there. I do wish they could keep up with the problems but IMHO the good waaaaayyy outweighs the bad.

I made this gargantuan post in the other, newer Goozex thread. Thing is, the more I think about it, the more I feel like cashing out on Goozex and never coming back. You hit a wall when you've gotten all the old stuff you could want... and then have to wait six months to get a new release. Here goes:

I don't think Goozex is worth the headache. I've been with the site for a few months now and done plenty of trades, but the people who run the place either have some of the worst judgement I've seen or are just too fucking lazy to iron out the bugs and user-unfriendly aspects of their system.

Examples:

Don't know the bugs? Too bad!

Goozex prevents users from adding future releases to their "wants" list, presumably with the notion that once it's released, everyone should have an equal chance to scramble and get the game on their want list, and then games are served in first-come, first-serve order.

With this in mind, check the "Top 10 Requested" list. You can do this by going to the homepage and clicking "Top Ten Lists" on the left navigation bar. Here are the top five games for your convienience:

1 John Woo Presents Stranglehold -- Comes out 8/27. 39 Requests.
2 Too Human -- Comes out "12/31/2008." 26 Requests.
3 Mario Strikers Charged -- Already out, should be the only one of these five that can be added to wants!
4 John Woo Presents Stranglehold: Collector's Edition -- Comes out 8/27. 19 Requests.
5 Two Worlds -- Comes out 8/21. 43 Requests.

Seems like a bug, right? Well, only partially. For a window of time after games get added to the system, they can be added to want lists, probably because the Goozex staff is slow in putting the actual release dates on the individual database entires.

So the right thing would be just to purge all the Requests and let everyone add it at the release date rollover, right? Not according to the Goozex staff! In their ignorance, they will allow these Requests to stand! Interested in Two Worlds for the 360? Well, once you're able to add it to your want list, the best postition you can get is #44! Which leads us to point #2:

Supply, meet Demand.

At 44th place (or worse!) in line, let's face it, it's going to be an eternity before you see that game. Hell, it already takes an eternity if you're 10th in line... unless you're looking for something from six months ago or more (http://www.goozex.com/trading/asp/top10list-showlist.asp?listtype=1). But we've all heard of Supply and Demand, right? Games with a ton of requests and no supply should be worth more, and games with a ton of supply and no requests should be worth less, right?

Wrong! Point values are set from on high by Goozex staff, (hint: they're generally retail prices converted to Goozex points, 100 points = $5), and the staff never adapts point values to accomidate for supply and demand. It's why GRAW 360 (http://www.goozex.com/trading/asp/itemdetail.asp?item=13115) is still worth 600 points ($30) despite there being 141 copies for trade and just 12 requests!

Of course it works in the opposite direction too. A brand spanking new game is worth its retail weight in Goozex points. But then, so is a game that's almost a year old now (http://www.goozex.com/trading/asp/itemdetail.asp?item=13286).

Anyone who's traded or sold a game before knows that new stuff is worth more. It's in higher demand. Let's say a Goozex user buys, I dunno, Two Worlds. He plays it for a day and figures out it's not for him. What are his options?

-Sell it on eBay for what he paid for it, give or take a couple dollars.
-Put it on a trade forum and get pretty much anything he wants within reason from an interested trader, as the other trader is willing to cough up more for a new release.
-Trade it in at a game trading store and get a pretty good credit return.
-Put it on Goozex, watch it get snapped up instantly, get 1000 points and go become #44 in line for a game he actually wants.

Unless you're a real noob, who in their right mind would add a new release to Goozex within, oh, a month since release? Goozex's "fair" (cough, communist) economy actively discourages the offering of new titles because the returns are so bad compared to practically every other alternative.

Goozex's staff could do quite a bit to remedy this problem. They could inflate new release point values. They could allow point "bidding" for games, allowing users to control their own position in line and granting suppliers more incentive to trade in new games. They could grant users who trade in new titles a one-use "fast pass" that would immediately ascend the user to number, oh, 5 in a queue.

Such methods would facilitate more trades and get the Goozex team more money. But none of this ever dawned to the Goozex staff. Or maybe it did and it got stonewalled by one of the project lead's sense of "fairness" (the same sense of "fairness" that ensures you're never close to the top in queues for new releases... unless you see the page before it gets updated, which is oh-so-vulnerable to insider stacking). Or maybe they were too concerned with making you a walking advertisement (http://www.goozex.com/community/forums/t/177.aspx). Who knows.

Eventually when using Goozex, you catch up to all those old games you wanted to try, and then... you have a bunch of points left over and nothing to spend them on. Unless you want to try your luck with #44. It's the ultimate failing of every communist system.

Go do some research on the story of the DDR and Trabis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trabi) if you don't believe me.

[Caliburn]

I'm just happy I have very few 'new' or 'hot' games. It pays to request classic title in my experience.

I was one of the first people to request Osu! ... Ouendan on Goozex over a year ago, and I finally received a copy over the weekend. A hell of a long wait, but worth it and I didn't need it asap - whenever was nice, which turned out to be a year. But again, supply finally met up with my demand and that $6 Rumble Roses XX paid for 80% of my Ouendan.

[slidecage]

I made this gargantuan post in the other, newer Goozex thread. Thing is, the more I think about it, the more I feel like cashing out on Goozex and never coming back. You hit a wall when you've gotten all the old stuff you could want... and then have to wait six months to get a new release. Here goes:

I don't think Goozex is worth the headache. I've been with the site for a few months now and done plenty of trades, but the people who run the place either have some of the worst judgement I've seen or are just too fucking lazy to iron out the bugs and user-unfriendly aspects of their system.

Examples:

Don't know the bugs? Too bad!

Goozex prevents users from adding future releases to their "wants" list, presumably with the notion that once it's released, everyone should have an equal chance to scramble and get the game on their want list, and then games are served in first-come, first-serve order.

With this in mind, check the "Top 10 Requested" list. You can do this by going to the homepage and clicking "Top Ten Lists" on the left navigation bar. Here are the top five games for your convienience:

1 John Woo Presents Stranglehold -- Comes out 8/27. 39 Requests.
2 Too Human -- Comes out "12/31/2008." 26 Requests.
3 Mario Strikers Charged -- Already out, should be the only one of these five that can be added to wants!
4 John Woo Presents Stranglehold: Collector's Edition -- Comes out 8/27. 19 Requests.
5 Two Worlds -- Comes out 8/21. 43 Requests.

Seems like a bug, right? Well, only partially. For a window of time after games get added to the system, they can be added to want lists, probably because the Goozex staff is slow in putting the actual release dates on the individual database entires.

So the right thing would be just to purge all the Requests and let everyone add it at the release date rollover, right? Not according to the Goozex staff! In their ignorance, they will allow these Requests to stand! Interested in Two Worlds for the 360? Well, once you're able to add it to your want list, the best postition you can get is #44! Which leads us to point #2:

Supply, meet Demand.

At 44th place (or worse!) in line, let's face it, it's going to be an eternity before you see that game. Hell, it already takes an eternity if you're 10th in line... unless you're looking for something from six months ago or more (http://www.goozex.com/trading/asp/top10list-showlist.asp?listtype=1). But we've all heard of Supply and Demand, right? Games with a ton of requests and no supply should be worth more, and games with a ton of supply and no requests should be worth less, right?

Wrong! Point values are set from on high by Goozex staff, (hint: they're generally retail prices converted to Goozex points, 100 points = $5), and the staff never adapts point values to accomidate for supply and demand. It's why GRAW 360 (http://www.goozex.com/trading/asp/itemdetail.asp?item=13115) is still worth 600 points ($30) despite there being 141 copies for trade and just 12 requests!

Of course it works in the opposite direction too. A brand spanking new game is worth its retail weight in Goozex points. But then, so is a game that's almost a year old now (http://www.goozex.com/trading/asp/itemdetail.asp?item=13286).

Anyone who's traded or sold a game before knows that new stuff is worth more. It's in higher demand. Let's say a Goozex user buys, I dunno, Two Worlds. He plays it for a day and figures out it's not for him. What are his options?

-Sell it on eBay for what he paid for it, give or take a couple dollars.
-Put it on a trade forum and get pretty much anything he wants within reason from an interested trader, as the other trader is willing to cough up more for a new release.
-Trade it in at a game trading store and get a pretty good credit return.
-Put it on Goozex, watch it get snapped up instantly, get 1000 points and go become #44 in line for a game he actually wants.

Unless you're a real noob, who in their right mind would add a new release to Goozex within, oh, a month since release? Goozex's "fair" (cough, communist) economy actively discourages the offering of new titles because the returns are so bad compared to practically every other alternative.

Goozex's staff could do quite a bit to remedy this problem. They could inflate new release point values. They could allow point "bidding" for games, allowing users to control their own position in line and granting suppliers more incentive to trade in new games. They could grant users who trade in new titles a one-use "fast pass" that would immediately ascend the user to number, oh, 5 in a queue.

Such methods would facilitate more trades and get the Goozex team more money. But none of this ever dawned to the Goozex staff. Or maybe it did and it got stonewalled by one of the project lead's sense of "fairness" (the same sense of "fairness" that ensures you're never close to the top in queues for new releases... unless you see the page before it gets updated, which is oh-so-vulnerable to insider stacking). Or maybe they were too concerned with making you a walking advertisement (http://www.goozex.com/community/forums/t/177.aspx). Who knows.

Eventually when using Goozex, you catch up to all those old games you wanted to try, and then... you have a bunch of points left over and nothing to spend them on. Unless you want to try your luck with #44. It's the ultimate failing of every communist system.

Go do some research on the story of the DDR and Trabis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trabi) if you don't believe me.


major flaw in your NO FAIR ON THE REQUEST bUG

if those people dont have pts or trade spots open they are not getting them so even if your 30th in line you still could be matched first

also even if they waited till the day the game out it still wouldnt be fair

Say

HEROES OF MANA came out AUG 15 and they put it on their site AUG 15 1201am est time

Well that is way past the bedtime of people on the east coast who work and its only 9pm for the west cost , so by the time the east coast people wake up at 5 to 6am there could be 50 request for this game by west coast people

and the east coast people would scream UNFAIR

simple point is if you dont like the company then dont use it. For me its the best company out there and there is NOTHING that compairs to goozex

what other sites are out there

Switch planet ---- yea right they want 100 bucks for a 10 buck game Hell i can get a game on goozex for around 200 goozex pts that would run me anywhere for 60 to 90 on switch

60 to 90 pts on switch is like 1000 pts on goozex

and they have what 40 ds games and compair to 100s on goozex


sayswap----- 5 bucks per swap compair to 1 at goozex and half the time


there is no other site that can compair to goozex who will be the best.

there was 5 -10 times in the last 6 months i was ranked 20th or worse and it still matched within 24 hours

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Goozex's staff could do quite a bit to remedy this problem. They could inflate new release point values. They could allow point "bidding" for games, allowing users to control their own position in line and granting suppliers more incentive to trade in new games. They could grant users who trade in new titles a one-use "fast pass" that would immediately ascend the user to number, oh, 5 in a queue.
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this will never work. Say you just traded a new game for 1000 pts and wanted a new game that fetches 1000 pts 3 months from now . Well goozex just put in the bidding system and now that game is now 2000 pts

what do you do ? do you give everyone double the pts cause its unfair cause it should been an even swap 3 months back but now it takes 2 games to get 1 game and their 1000 pts are now only worth half


if you want to see how fast bidding will kill off goozex go visit switchplanet.

goozex probally gets 100x more trades then switch

[mvp828]

Is there a way to gift points that I already have to someone??

[OnChkMnDS]

I don't think you can...

Man I wish someone would take my copy of super monkey ball 2 on Goozex

[JJSP]

I don't think you can...

Man I wish someone would take my copy of super monkey ball 2 on Goozex
I just signed up for the first one. If I like it, I'll let you know. :)