ZACK & WIKI! 300k Sold! BUY!!! $29.99 Now! IGN: 9.0! 1UP: 9.0! NP: 9.0! GS: 8.5!

[Zen Davis]

Zack And Wiki Wallpapers! Except they're with the Treasure Island Z logo.

http://www.gpara.com/wp_arc/takarajimaz/takarajimaz_01_main.jpghttp://www.gpara.com/wp_arc/takarajimaz/takarajimaz_02_main.jpghttp://www.gpara.com/wp_arc/takarajimaz/takarajimaz_03_main.jpg

http://www.gpara.com/tobira/wp/takarajimaz/index.htm

[judyjudyjudy]

Gamespot review--8.5Gah, this makes me want this game even more now, but I don't know if I can get myself to buy something at retail. Damnit, TRU, why didn't you have your B2G1 this week? :(

[Zen Davis]

Gah, this makes me want this game even more now, but I don't know if I can get myself to buy something at retail. Damnit, TRU, why didn't you have your B2G1 this week? :(
Do it for the children and the evil yellow-eyed wolverined porcupines .

http://www.gpara.com/wp_arc/takarajimaz/takarajimaz_01_main.jpg

But mostly the evil yellow-eyed wolverined porcupines...

[The Crotch]

There won't be any yellow-eyed wolverined porcupines left if you don't pick up Fire Emblem (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3491920&postcount=62). Wolverined children are a distinct possibility, though like most mutants, they will probably be hostile.

[Troz1820]

Did anyone else that ordered through the Capcom store get a backordered notice? I don't mind the game coming late since I've got a few (more like a ton) to go through first, but I'll be pissed if the bonus lenticular puzzle doesn't come along with it.

[io]

Well, dammit, I was gonna skip this one. I figured it was all hype and would come out to 6's and 7's like Dewy and any number of other Wii games. So for once I didn't freaking preorder. Now I know my GC won't have any or if they do it will be for the one guy that preordered. Guess I'll give 'em a call tomorrow just to check.

[Zen Davis]

Well, dammit, I was gonna skip this one. I figured it was all hype and would come out to 6's and 7's like Dewy and any number of other Wii games. So for once I didn't freaking preorder. Now I know my GC won't have any or if they do it will be for the one guy that preordered. Guess I'll give 'em a call tomorrow just to check.

Heretic!!!!!!!

[botticus]

Gah, this makes me want this game even more now, but I don't know if I can get myself to buy something at retail. Damnit, TRU, why didn't you have your B2G1 this week? :(Just pretend it's a $50 game and you found a universal deal for $10 off.

[Snake2715]

So what does aeveryone predict the legs will be on this game? I have a feeling it could be somewhat long lived if even more reviews come in at these ratings.

[botticus]

So what does aeveryone predict the legs will be on this game? I have a feeling it could be somewhat long lived if even more reviews come in at these ratings.If it keeps up in the high-80s on GameRankings, and impressions aren't filled with disappointment when the game hits, I could see it having longer legs than most recent games. The price point will help initially, and positive word-of-mouth would help thereafter.

Unfortunately it has little chance of charting with 4 Guitar Hero SKUs filling October. Odds are those will be top 10, with Halo, maybe R&C, Wii Play, and three slots for DS/360 (Brain Age, Orange Box, etc) to fight over. Hopefully GAF puts it as one of their specific games to get NPD data for, I'll be very curious to see how it does over the next two weeks.

[Snake2715]

I hope sales are strong for it.

Best Buy doesnt show it online, Gamestop is still in "prerelease" mode.

Finally Capcom will be rewarded with persistent Nintendo support (beyond RE4 of course).

[utopianmachine]

I just went out to try to buy it, thinking it came out today. This little girl needs to remember shipping date and release date are two different things.

[Zen Davis]

I just went out to try to buy it, thinking it came out today. This little girl needs to remember shipping date and release date are two different things.

DOH!

[botticus]

Hmm... I just saw this on the overview page on IGN:

Prior to the start of a stage, the game shares with you the percentage of testers who were able to clear the stage on their own, so you can get a feel for the difficulty.

That's kind of a cool difficulty gauge. Hopefully it wasn't something that was only in early builds.

[SpikeSpiegel]

:cry: I can't spend more money! Damn you capcom!

[Zen Davis]

:cry: I can't spend more money! Damn you capcom!

Randy "Macho Man" Savage says BE A MAN!

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4145YX7GQ9L._SS500_.jpg

[cgarb84]

Wow I have been following this game a little bit thanks to the IGN guys but I wasn't expecting it to get this good of reviews. It looks like a lot of fun and I think I will have to pick it up. There are starting to be a few hidden gems show up on the Wii recently. Two weeks ago I bought MLB: Power Pros and that game turned out to be awesome. And now it sounds like this game is sweet too. OH HOW MY WALLET HURTS!!!

[fdu]

Anybody get this game yet? Really want to use my $20 CC gift card but will settle for just getting the game! 8-)

[Snake2715]

Anybody get this game yet? Really want to use my $20 CC gift card but will settle for just getting the game! 8-)

I forgot about my $24 cc gift card....

I just checked and at least CC's website shows the game, Best Buy doesn't even acknowledge it exists, and gamestops is still showing preorder...

[Zen Davis]

User Impressions From IGN:

If I didn't have a pile of work to do I'd be back at home playing this gem. Take it from me, if you liked Wind Waker, you will dig this game. The environments are so lively, and the animation and art style is superb. I haven't got past the opening quest yet, but I can already tell I'm going to love this game. The expressions and lively character designs (talking about aside from the main cast) remind a lot of LoZ:WW's characters.

So far the sound and music are a little bland, nothing too atmospheric or epic, but I guess they get the job done. The real show here is the beautifully imagined environments, and the motion implementation, which feels to me like it's finally part of the game, and not a sidethought like it was in Metroid Prime 3. You actually have to time your motions, and some tasks take a few tries to get the hang of. It really feels like a new dimension, which I haven't experienced since Mario 64 pioneered analog movement within 3D stages. I'm really amazed it sells for $40, when it would easily bring in $50.

[rodeojones903]

I ordered my copy from estarland.com today. :D

[sonderiaom]

It kinda bothers me, I've been watching Buy.com's page for Zack and Wiki the past couple days and it had the Google Checkout option for it, but you couldn't use it as it was a preorder.

So I check this morning and find out that they disabled the Google Checkout for it. Grrr.

[seanr1221]

Might pick this up myself.

[Zen Davis]

Although everyone keeps saying that Capcom used Wind Waker as their template, I will continue to insist that Megaman Legends was the basis of inspiration for Zack and Wiki. It even has the monkey!

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/e/e8/Megamanlegends1.jpg
http://eod.notart.org/images/megamanlegends2.jpg
http://eod.notart.org/images/lilroll.gif

http://youtube.com/watch?v=02mFLh0XuHk

[dmaul1114]

With the reviews this is getting, it's definitely now on my "check out sometime" list despite my never liking point and click adventure games.

With my backlog I probably won't get to it until well into 2008 though.

[MarioColbert]

Hmm... So no store will have this until when? Tomorrow? Next day? I was going to pick it up tonight.

And man, is it ever so refreshing to see a thread on CAG without everyone going "BOOO BOOOOO BOOOOOO FUCK THIS GAME FUCK IT IN THE NOSE!"

[dmaul1114]

Yeah, should be in most stores tomorrow or Thursday at the latest.

[Zen Davis]

Hmm... So no store will have this until when? Tomorrow? Next day? I was going to pick it up tonight.

And man, is it ever so refreshing to see a thread on CAG without everyone going "BOOO BOOOOO BOOOOOO FUCK THIS GAME FUCK IT IN THE NOSE!"
I wish I could fuck this game in the nose... I can only imagine the pleasures....

STORE LOCATOR:

Gamestop: http://web.sa.mapquest.com/gamestop/
Best Buy: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat12090&type=page&isCarFi=null
Circuit City: http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/genericContent.do?oid=154701&c=1
Target: http://sites.target.com/site/en/spot/page.jsp?title=store_locator_new

Call and ask if the game has come in.

[MarioColbert]

I already called the GameStops, there are two in the area (like, a mile apart, too!) and they both said tomorrow. The most hope I have is for Blockbuster, because I know that the guys there put shit up as soon as they get it for whatever reason...

[buttle]

Hmm... So no store will have this until when? Tomorrow? Next day? I was going to pick it up tonight.

And man, is it ever so refreshing to see a thread on CAG without everyone going "BOOO BOOOOO BOOOOOO FUCK THIS GAME FUCK IT IN THE NOSE!"

yea, i just assumed it would be available on tuesday caues most games are. i checked though after i didn't get my friendly call from gamestop telling me my preordered game is availble. i will simply have to wait 1 more day.

[botticus]

yea, i just assumed it would be available on tuesday caues most games are. i checked though after i didn't get my friendly call from gamestop telling me my preordered game is availble. i will simply have to wait 1 more day.Aeris usually calls in the evening nowadays, should be getting a call after dinner. Few stores will have the game in before tomorrow.

[rupan_sansei]

Although everyone keeps saying that Capcom used Wind Waker as their template, I will continue to insist that Megaman Legends was the basis of inspiration for Zack and Wiki. It even has the monkey!

http://eod.notart.org/images/lilroll.gif

I knew Wiki looked familiar! I just couldn't remember where I'd seen him before. That's definitely a better match than Wind Waker for the art style.

[botticus]

Uh oh, only an 8 from Play. The bubble is bursting! Granted, Play gets their review scores from a magic 8-ball, but still.

[Snake2715]

yea, i just assumed it would be available on tuesday caues most games are. i checked though after i didn't get my friendly call from gamestop telling me my preordered game is availble. i will simply have to wait 1 more day.

yeah well if victorious boxers is any indication all the big chains claimed it was coming on 10/23/07, Some smaller chains got it on release day (10/16/07) and Best Buy just got it yesterday... amazingly this morning Best Buy online changed the release date back to the correct date of 10/16/07... I figure at this point why did they change it back?

The smaller games are taking longer and longer to get there apparently. I bought Mario Party 5 a week early at TRU when it came out.

[MarioColbert]

Snake: Which adventure site are you running? There's been so many adventure games for DS announcements, it's like we're being bukkaked with puzzles. And Insecticide just got January 2008 Release date - but I couldn't find your old DS Adventures post (or maybe I didn't look)....

[gunm]

I've been going back and forth on this game, but I think I will lean back into "must get" mode. So since it's not out today, can I still "pre-order" at GS to guarantee myself a copy tomorrow/Thurs/Fri? Have some credits left over I can burn it on.

[Snake2715]

Snake: Which adventure site are you running? There's been so many adventure games for DS announcements, it's like we're being bukkaked with puzzles. And Insecticide just got January 2008 Release date - but I couldn't find your old DS Adventures post (or maybe I didn't look)....

I wish i was running a site, just a fan.

Heres the link to my thread. i need to update it apparently.


http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121071&highlight=adventure

[Zen Davis]

Uh oh, only an 8 from Play. The bubble is bursting! Granted, Play gets their review scores from a magic 8-ball, but still.
Hasn't Play given reviews before that have been completely off base?

Oh yeah. It was that Lair review where they gave the game a 9 out of 10 when the rest of the industry reviews ranged it from average to broken. Hence the, "you don't know to play it; let us teach you with these brochures and big expensive artbooks (please give our game a better review grade)" quest Factor 5 and Sony went on.

According to Wikipedia, doesn't Play only cover Playstation games?

[MarioColbert]

NOBODY has the damn game, and not a single Electronic Dept guy knew what the hell game I was talking about.

Best Buy Representative said that he can not find anything in the database for Zack, Wiki, or Treasure. Now, I would buy the first two - but TREASURE? Surely SOMETHING comes up in the Best Buy line under TREASURE. Unless, of course, he was running that search on his bong, in which case I stand corrected, though once again, I would imagine TREASURE would be well represented again.

[Zen Davis]

NOBODY has the damn game, and not a single Electronic Dept guy knew what the hell game I was talking about.

Best Buy Representative said that he can not find anything in the database for Zack, Wiki, or Treasure. Now, I would buy the first two - but TREASURE? Surely SOMETHING comes up in the Best Buy line under TREASURE. Unless, of course, he was running that search on his bong, in which case I stand corrected, though once again, I would imagine TREASURE would be well represented again.

Sorry buddy. You got hosed.

[MisterHand]

Amazon.com changed the release date from 10/23 to 10/26 earlier today.

[MarioColbert]

Sorry buddy. You got hosed.

If Blockbuster "I played Football Back in High School" manager is working today, there's hope... Fingers crossed, but the morale is down. Way down.

[Zen Davis]

Amazon.com changed the release date from 10/23 to 10/26 earlier today.

What a fucking cock tease!

[Legolas813]

Adventures on the PC always take a long time to show up on shelves after the street date (sometimes a week or two). I don't think it will be that long for Zack and Wiki, but I knew it wasn't going to be on shelves today either.

[MarioColbert]

Adventures on the PC always take a long time to show up on shelves after the street date (sometimes a week or two). I don't think it will be that long for Zack and Wiki, but I knew it wasn't going to be on shelves today either.
Week or two my ass. Broken Sword 4 is still nowhere to be seen States-side. And that's a shame.

I'm leaving work in 45 minutes. I guess I should call Hastings, and both Blockbusters just to see what up.

EDIT: This is up: Blockbuster's getting ONE copy, Release date marked as 26th. Hastings said that it's "in transit." Wal-Mart said that they "do not carry it."

EDIT2: holy shit is the woman operator @ Toys R Us creepy as hell... they don't have it, either... listing as 25th. It seems tomorrow I'll be all up on in here telling you what a misunderstood GENIUS this game is. Either that, or be all up in a proper CAG tradition - with spewing hate, and sub-clever rhetoric. Also, cocks.

[rupan_sansei]

Went by WalMart after work. They had an empty spot with a price tag marked for the game, but nothing there of course.

[botticus]

Got the call from Aeris a short while ago as expected. Looking forward to tomorrow afternoon!

[Zen Davis]

Got the call from Aeris a short while ago as expected. Looking forward to tomorrow afternoon!

You best leave us with impressions!

[botticus]

You best leave us with impressions!I won't be able to play it till 5pm, so I'm relying on the lazy jobless bastards here to start posting before I do.

[EXStrike]

I ordered through EB online... PW3 shipped, but not Zack & Wiki :(

Granted, I did place the order yesterday.

[Legendaryhedgehog06]

I'm still sorta on the fence about this one...I want to pick it up with Naruto tomorrow...I didn't preorder one but I'm sure they must have at least one store copy I can pick up.

If I do get it I'm gonna trade in Bleach Wii so I dont screw up my established credit that i gonna be my holiday games budget ie all the big games one a week every week for the next 5 weeks lol.

I've always had an interest in this since its ben in development so yeah I think I will. If I ever want Bleach back again that badly it will drop like a rock fairly soon.

[Plinko]

Just ordered it for $28.99 and free shipping with GCO at Buy.com.

[Legolas813]

Ordered my copy early this month from Amazon for $29.99 (thanks to those Amazon gift cards that GameTap gives away every so often for answering surveys). Unfortunately it looks like Amazon is not shipping out the game until late this week or next, but I'm busy anyway so I can wait.

[WiiGame]

it sounds like its an awesome game... i might have to get it.

[io]

I think it's pretty funny that most people on CAG claim reviews are meaningless and yet here's a game that seems to have hit critical mass with the reviews and now everyone is buying it (me included ;)). So, apparently, reviews DO make a difference. I bet if this was coming in with 6-7, or even 7-8 scores all around, there wouldn't be this avalanche of CAG purchases before the game even hits.

[botticus]

I think it's pretty funny that most people on CAG claim reviews are meaningless and yet here's a game that seems to have hit critical mass with the reviews and now everyone is buying it (me included ;)). So, apparently, reviews DO make a difference. I bet if this was coming in with 6-7, or even 7-8 scores all around, there wouldn't be this avalanche of CAG purchases before the game even hits.You're just mad that you have to buy it now.

[Friend of Sonic]

I have to agree with you a bit Ico. I'm positive if this was getting 6s across the board like you suggest, we all would go, "DAMN IT NINTENDO AND THIRD PARTIES WHERE ARE THE GAMES?!"
But now that this is getting excellent reviews, I'm going to have to buy it to support good games. And of course, to play it.

[botticus]

It's over.

1up - 9
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3163925

That makes a 8.8 across the big 3.

Thankfully, Zack & Wiki is far more than the sum of its pieces, and it absolutely succeeds despite any minor problems. It's a huge world of wonderful puzzles to solve, with creative approaches to even the most mundane solutions; it's also a big game, and it goes on far longer than even the story would imply (though some people may never beat the last couple stages without assistance). Its biggest hurdle will be finding its audience, as it's the kind of game you don't know you're dying for until you play it (and its youthful aesthetic doesn't do it any favors). But it's worth looking into for every Wii owner, and if it isn't the best game for the system, it's at least the most "must-play" Wii experience next to Wii Sports (http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=3150587). It's unmatched as a cognitively and creatively challenging experience, and just about anyone can pick it up and enjoy and appreciate it for what it does...even if they won't get very far.

[drfunk85]

I think it's pretty funny that most people on CAG claim reviews are meaningless and yet here's a game that seems to have hit critical mass with the reviews and now everyone is buying it (me included ;)). So, apparently, reviews DO make a difference. I bet if this was coming in with 6-7, or even 7-8 scores all around, there wouldn't be this avalanche of CAG purchases before the game even hits.

It's not that reviews are meaningless, you just need to know how to interpert them and weed out the bad reviews from the good ones. The explanations that go along with the score are actually a lot more important than the score itself.

[Zen Davis]

It's over.

1up - 9
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3163925

That makes a 8.8 across the big 3.
That's seriously holy shit and more shocking that than the Galaxy Famitsu score.

As others have said, this might be a game that Capcom only sends a set (30,000) amount to retailers expecting the game to bomb, only for it to sell out ala Phoenix Wright. Then we wait month after month for more copies to hit shelves.

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/6/6b/Neo_Whoa.jpg

[botticus]

8.4 from GameTrailers, but there's no way in hell I'm watching a video review.

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/4660.html

[Zen Davis]

8.4 from GameTrailers, but there's no way in hell I'm watching a video review.

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/4660.html

I'm just listening to it. No spoilers for me!

[The Crotch]

I think it's pretty funny that most people on CAG claim reviews are meaningless and yet here's a game that seems to have hit critical mass with the reviews and now everyone is buying it (me included ;)). So, apparently, reviews DO make a difference. I bet if this was coming in with 6-7, or even 7-8 scores all around, there wouldn't be this avalanche of CAG purchases before the game even hits.Depends a good deal on the game. Reviews of an obscure game from a developer that can be hit-or-miss? Important. Reviews of Halo 3? Not really that important. You know what you're getting with the latter, but the former is still an unknown.

[Zen Davis]

Depends a good deal on the game. Reviews of an obscure game from a developer that can be hit-or-miss? Important. Reviews of Halo 3? Not really that important. You know what you're getting with the latter, but the former is still an unknown.

Basically reviews are more important for new IPs.

[botticus]

When a game reviews such as this, it's worth noting. I look to them more for trends (hey, everyone is giving it a 9, looks like a winner!), and specific complaints if they're negative.

[The Crotch]

Basically reviews are more important for new IPs.Developer plays a factor, too. The importance of the review for "new Naughty Dog platformer" is minimal. Naughty Dog knows its shit, and the odds of the game not being worth buying is very lew. "New SEGA platformer", however...?

[Legolas813]

The GameTrailers review does have a small amount of new footage we haven't seen before, so if you are "going dark" you probably don't want to watch it.

[chakan]

Kotaku on the hypewagon:
http://kotaku.com/gaming/zack-%26-wiki/please-go-buy-zack--wiki-tomorrow-314305.php

We know, it's October, there are a ton of games vying for your time and money right now. But this goes beyond just you. See, Zack & Wiki is pretty awesome. But because it looks a little childish, because the concept's a little hard to explain concisely and because it's coming out at this time of year (tomorrow), there's a good chance it may be forgotten. Totally overlooked. Don't you dare let that happen. If you've got a Wii and will be up tomorrow, get off your ass and go buy a copy. We don't want to be writing about this game in 2-3 years time, listening to you all bitch about how much sealed copies cost and how bad you want to play it. Now's your chance.

[G33]

I'm glad this game is getting good reviews all around. I've had this preordered and I am going to pick it up tomorrow, but it is reassuring that reviewers really seem to like this game.

[supershammy]

So we shouldn't expect to see this in stores for another day or two, yeah? I am dying to get a new Wii game and this is exactly what I'm looking for - too bad I've got to hold out til then...

Please post when you get this game!! We gotta know what outlets are carrying it earliest.

[gunm]

Got in on a pre-order this afternoon @ Gamestop. Have credits to burn and this seems like a good way to go for this already reasonably priced game.

[botticus]

The comments on Kotaku make me sad for the future.

[Scrubking]

So what are the negatives being said about this game in the reviews? Especially the 8.x reviews?

[botticus]

So what are the negatives being said about this game in the reviews? Especially the 8.x reviews?
GameSpot summary:

Good:
Clever and unique puzzles that are challenging without being overly difficult
Plenty of different stages to play through, some with multiple solutions
Sharp graphics with excellent art style
Good use of the Wii Remote.

Bad:
Story and characters aren't especially interesting
Sometimes grating voice work.

The other sub-9s are Play and GI which aren't online, and GameTrailers which I won't watch.

[MarioColbert]

I'm just going to say that GameStop best have this today.

[MarioColbert]

So what are the negatives being said about this game in the reviews? Especially the 8.x reviews?

GI:

Concept: Hide serious puzzle challenges under a super cute veveer.

Graphics: Crisp cel-shaded characters and imaginative environments definitely impress

Sound: You'll want to strangle Wiki to silence his high-pitched baby voice.

Playability: Puzzles utilize a wide variety of motion controls, some of which work way better than others.

Entertainment: If you can get past the wacky vibe, these innovative puzzles will fry your mind.

Replay Value: Moderate

_____________________________


The review itself says nothing negative - it kind of summarizes the concept and then gives Capcom props for taking a risk, and whatever. In addition, there is a SECOND OPINION column below, rating the game at 7.75 (in contrast to the GI official score of 8.25):

"If you love that slightly odd, clasically Japanese sense of humor that Capcom brought to such titles as The Misadventures of Tron Bonne, I have a feeling that Zack & Wiki is going to be right up your alley. It's certainly charming, and its Wii remote controlled action/puzzle gameplay is nothing if not unique. At its best, it gives you a mix of intriguing puzzles and novel motion-based minigames that's like nothing else out there. However, this game is frustrating as often as it's fun, and at times the Wii control features seem to be doing little more than making the gameplay sloppier and less exact than it should be. It's an interesting concept that could have used a bit more polish. --MATT"

[botticus]

GamePro review is in (I know, "yay!")

http://gamepro.com/nintendo/wii/games/reviews/143028.shtml

Graphics - 4.5
Sound - 4.5
Control - 5
Fun Factor - 4.25


PROS: A refreshing adventure; inventive controls keep things fresh.
CONS: Difficult puzzles are sometimes overwhelming.

[Scrubking]

Thanks, though I don't understand that whole "needs more polish" bit. IGN said the game oozes polish. Anyway...

[Snake2715]

Thanks, though I don't understand that whole "needs more polish" bit. IGN said the game oozes polish. Anyway...


My thought was he meant in the control department.

[Zen Davis]

From GAF:

The instructions are a poster sized fold out map!!

The other sub-9s are Play and GI which aren't online, and GameTrailers which I won't watch.

The biggest knock Gametrailers had against Zack and Wiki was for its story category which gave the game a 7.5 but then again, you don't go into playing Zack and Wiki for the storyline.

[Zen Davis]

Has anyone bothered contacting Wal-Mart about this game?


GI:

Sound: You'll want to strangle Wiki to silence his high-pitched baby voice.
This monkey won't have anything of the king of annoying high-pitched baby voices - Baby Mario.

Other impressions... Now we're hitting spoilers and I hate ruining stuff for people so SPOILERS! SPOILERS! SPOILERS!

The monkey makes fun of you :\
THE HINT GOD.

BEST HINT SCREEN EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[Zen Davis]

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd17/izakq/gstopcouponma5.jpg

I have no idea on the validity of this coupon.

[botticus]

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd17/izakq/gstopcouponma5.jpg

I have no idea on the validity of this coupon.It's legit, been posted in the deals forum for a week.

[Zen Davis]

It's legit, been posted in the deals forum for a week.
Why does no one tell me these things?! :cry:

So that would be like what, 4$ off the game?

[trq]

I think it's pretty funny that most people on CAG claim reviews are meaningless and yet here's a game that seems to have hit critical mass with the reviews and now everyone is buying it (me included ;)). So, apparently, reviews DO make a difference. I bet if this was coming in with 6-7, or even 7-8 scores all around, there wouldn't be this avalanche of CAG purchases before the game even hits.

I don't happen to be one of those people -- I actually find reviews helpful -- but that's probably true. My take on this is pretty parallel to how I use movie reviews: if a movie I wasn't inclined to see gets good enough reviews, I'll suck up my preconceptions and give it a shot. If a movie I'm looking forward to gets poor reviews, though, they don't really matter -- I'm perfectly capable of getting my money's worth from stuff that isn't necessarily top shelf. Why people don't try to experience the full range of the things they supposedly enjoy ("Oh, you game?" "Yeah, but just first person shooters and sports games.") is beyond me.

[botticus]

Picked up my copy. No preorder bonus though. I'll check another store tomorrow, but I'm guessing stores didn't get them (yet?) unless someone tells me different.

Unfortunately the Japanese release is cooler as we do not have a fold-out map for an instruction manual. Can't play for 4 hours though.

[Snake2715]

Picked up my copy. No preorder bonus though. I'll check another store tomorrow, but I'm guessing stores didn't get them (yet?) unless someone tells me different.

Unfortunately the Japanese release is cooler as we do not have a fold-out map for an instruction manual. Can't play for 4 hours though.

I am guessing gamestop had it for you?

[remorhaz]

I just picked up a copy from gamestop b&m. They only got 3 copies in and didnt even know they had them. I had to argue with the guy for 10 minutes, he just kept telling me that they shipped today and that they would probably be out tomorrow. While we were arguing one of his co workers found a fed ex box with 3 copies in it. So it looks like b&m stores are not getting many, if any copies.

[Zen Davis]

Post Impressions!

[dmaul1114]

Why people don't try to experience the full range of the things they supposedly enjoy ("Oh, you game?" "Yeah, but just first person shooters and sports games.") is beyond me.

Perhaps most have tried other stuff and didn't like it? Game's aren't art (to me anyway--but to each their own). I'm not going to subject myself to crap I hate like RTS games, MMORPGs etc. just to "experience the full range."

I just play some games to unwind and relax a couple evenings a week, no need for me to step out of genre's I love to play games in those I've tried and didn't care for.

[botticus]

I am guessing gamestop had it for you?Yep, didn't actually expect them to have it before noon, must have had an early drop off.

[Scrubking]

Got the game. Just got to my hideout.

I have to say that this game is pretty awesome so far. I can't get the smile off my face. This game is like playing a cartoon it's so well crafted. The dialog is funny and the way you use the wiimote is cool. You get graded after each episode and there are lots of little secret stuff to uncover that ups your score.

The only slightly annoying things I've seen so far is the fact that whenever a character talks it's text, but they babble something along side it (mostly japanese accents. Zacku and such). This happens every time you scroll the text. In my view they just should have gone with full voice acting if they were going to be mumbling so much. The other thing is that the cutscene text disappears way too fast so I can barely read it.

Also there is more polish in the first 5 minutes of the game than in the whole of most other games so you can throw that "not polished" crap out the window.

[OMGpenguin]

Where have you guys seen it available?

I've called a couple Gamestops and they haven't gotten shipments yet... and Best Buy doesn't even have it listed on their site.

[Scrubking]

Oh yeah I forgot to say that when I got to my Gamestop the guy at the counter was apparently new and had no idea what Zack and Wiki was. He kept asking me what console it was for. Then the other guy (manager?), started laughing when he found out I was picking up Zack and Wiki. I don't know if he was laughing at the name or what, but whatever.

Also I think the Japanese version has a fold out map for the booklet while this one is just a regular manual.

[zerowing]

Just purchased through Buy.com with $10 GCO, here's hoping for awesome.

[Scrubking]

Where have you guys seen it available?

I've called a couple Gamestops and they haven't gotten shipments yet... and Best Buy doesn't even have it listed on their site.

People are reporting that stores are getting VERY LIMITED quantities of this game if they get it at all.

[flizmo007]

I asked about this game yesterday at Gamestop and got laughed at by the manager as well. He was laughing and saying. " You're kidding, right? Is this for you or your girlfriend?" What a dumbass.

[Zen Davis]

North American Packaging From GAF:

http://i22.tinypic.com/j17sk7.jpg
http://i22.tinypic.com/no7d5c.jpg

[Zen Davis]

I asked about this game yesterday at Gamestop and got laughed at by the manager as well. He was laughing and saying. " You're kidding, right? Is this for you or your girlfriend?" What a dumbass.
Should have said it was for his mom. I probably would have yelled at him or something for an inane remark like that.

[supershammy]

Just called my Gamestop, they said that they've definitely received the game, but that they haven't processed it into the system yet. I'm gonna go pick it up in an hour. Here's to my first video game purchase in three months!

[Zen Davis]

Just called my Gamestop, they said that they've definitely received the game, but that they haven't processed it into the system yet. I'm gonna go pick it up in an hour. Here's to my first video game purchase in three months!
I'd literally be waiting in the store right now based on the limited supplies in which they shipped this game out in. Between CAG, IGN, GAF, and Kotaku, I have a feeling this intial run might just sell out.

I mean Capcom really hasn't bothered to hype this game up and so it's apparent they're going to undership it. But since the internet folk, myself included, have hyped it up so much, I think that 97% of the copies that reach retailers are going to sell out. It'll be Phoenix Wright all over again.

[rupan_sansei]

Woohoo! Scored a copy at lunch from Gamestop. This was after trying Toys R Us and Circuit City. The clerk looked at me funny upon hearing the name, then turned and found it in the pile of new shipment stacked behind him. It looked like they got 1, possibly two copies in. This reminds me of the original release of Katamari. Very low initial shipment, sold out, and word of mouth spread. By then, there were none to be found for a good while.

[Zen Davis]

From GAF:

Best Buy store pc shows they will have it on thursday.

[micmac0720]

both circuit city and target have it on their sites, but say not available for pick up in store, delivery only. i hope my local gamestop has it. went to toys r us and bestbuy last night and they didn't have it.

[gunm]

Picked up my copy. No preorder bonus though. I'll check another store tomorrow, but I'm guessing stores didn't get them (yet?) unless someone tells me different.

Unfortunately the Japanese release is cooler as we do not have a fold-out map for an instruction manual. Can't play for 4 hours though.

Was the pre-order bonus exclusive to Capcom direct? I notice GameStop doesn't seem to be aware of any of the recent ones, like the PW plushie.

[Deefuzz]

I asked about this game yesterday at Gamestop and got laughed at by the manager as well. He was laughing and saying. " You're kidding, right? Is this for you or your girlfriend?" What a dumbass.

What a douchebag.

[OMGpenguin]

Well, I need a break from this homework, so I'll check a couple GS's and EBGames (maybe Best Buy, Target, and Circuit City, but I do have to get back eventually).

I'll let you guys know what I find (or don't find).

[Zen Davis]

Try Wal-Mart.

[Scrubking]

I already died at the 3rd level. It had a difficulty of 3/10

[MarioColbert]

The Quest for the HOLY Game:

Step 1: GameStop #1

Err, what was that again? Zack and what? Yes, I know you called yesterday, I was confused yesterday, too... No, we don't have it.

Step 2: Optometrist place, 'cuz my glasses needed fixing. This isn't part of the story, but it's very important all the same.

Step 3: Hastings. Imagine the sound of the western right before a showdown... That whoooooosh of the wind. That's their NINTENDO section.

Step 4: Circuit City. Best quote ever:

"No, sir, I checked in the back, and we don't have it yet. You might want to get Carnival Games, though, it's also for the Wii..."

Step 5: GameStop #2

"That'd be forty bucks... Swipe your card again, please. Thank you."


Woo! Longest lunch break ever! The manual is awesome... It's first page beares the following text:

A SPECIAL MESSAGE FROM CAPCOM(R)
Thank you for purchasing ZACK & WIKI(tm): QUEST FOR BARBAROS' TREASURE for your Nintendo Wii(tm) computer entertainment system. CAPCOM(R) is proud to bring you this new addition to your video game library.


Man, you guys might not get this, but with all the TM and R stuff, I feel like I'm back to Monkey Island(TM) all over again!

[Zen Davis]

The Quest for the HOLY Game:

Step 1: GameStop #1

Err, what was that again? Zack and what? Yes, I know you called yesterday, I was confused yesterday, too... No, we don't have it.

Step 2: Optometrist place, 'cuz my glasses needed fixing. This isn't part of the story, but it's very important all the same.

Step 3: Hastings. Imagine the sound of the western right before a showdown... That whoooooosh of the wind. That's their NINTENDO section.

Step 4: Circuit City. Best quote ever:

"No, sir, I checked in the back, and we don't have it yet. You might want to get Carnival Games, though, it's also for the Wii..."

Step 5: GameStop #2

"That'd be forty bucks... Swipe your card again, please. Thank you."


Woo! Longest lunch break ever! The manual is awesome... It's first page bares the following text:

A SPECIAL MESSAGE FROM CAPCOM(R)
Thank you for purchasing ZACK & WIKI(tm): QUEST FOR BARBAROS' TREASURE for your Nintendo Wii(tm) computer entertainment system. CAPCOM(R) is proud to bring you this new addition to your video game library.


Man, you guys might not get this, but with all the TM and R stuff, I feel like I'm back to Monkey Island(TM) all over again!

Zack and Wiki. It does exist!

[MarioColbert]

I like how I'm quite illustriously represented in your picturesque signature. I'm the fifth from the left - and that's awesome.

I'll appropriate that image as my avatar after you retire your signature.

And man, the manual is already awesome big time. Looks bad assssss.

[OMGpenguin]

Found it at the first GameStop (first store) I went to. Used the 10% off coupon with no hitch.

Although I'm not letting myself play it until I get my tax research project done (due tomorrow) :(

(Also, the clerk assured me that if I didn't reserve games like Mario Galaxy, I would not be able to find them this holiday season. Too bad really, I was really hoping to play Ace Combat, Mass Effect, Mario Galaxy, Call of Duty 4, and the like... guess I'll have to wait til January)

[botticus]

Woohoo! Scored a copy at lunch from Gamestop. This was after trying Toys R Us and Circuit City. The clerk looked at me funny upon hearing the name, then turned and found it in the pile of new shipment stacked behind him. It looked like they got 1, possibly two copies in. This reminds me of the original release of Katamari. Very low initial shipment, sold out, and word of mouth spread. By then, there were none to be found for a good while.For now I'm equating it more to the first Phoenix Wright. We'll see how many copies Best Buy gets on Thursday.

Amazon had one copy left as of a few minutes ago.

Edit: Out of stock till 10/27.

[MarioColbert]

(Also, the clerk assured me that if I didn't reserve games like Mario Galaxy, I would not be able to find them this holiday season.

OMINOUS! The guys at both GameStops have said that to me as well. I'm wondering if there's a GameStop memo that's all like "GET THE WII FANBOYS TO PREORDER SHITS."

I'm going to preorder SMG 11.01 - payday!

[OMGpenguin]

OMINOUS! The guys at both GameStops have said that to me as well. I'm wondering if there's a GameStop memo that's all like "GET THE WII FANBOYS TO PREORDER SHITS."

I'm going to preorder SMG 11.01 - payday!

I just find it hard to drop down any amount of money on something before it comes out. It's been a long time since I had any problem finding a game on or around its release day, and quite often, certain stores will have a sale on new release titles (most recently, $49 for Bioshock at CC on its release). Furthermore, I'm even more sketched-out about buying games at Gamestop, as I don't think they pricematch.

Hell, I decided I wanted to get a Wii the day it launched (in other words, I decided that morning), stood in line for 2 hours, and got one.

What does blow my mind, however, is how the Wii can end up in so many homes with the most limited software library. I think SMG will turn that tide, but as of now, I hardly play mine.

[supershammy]

I'm wondering if there's a GameStop memo that's all like "GET THE WII FANBOYS TO PREORDER SHITS."

You're partially right. The memo as of 10/24 reads as follows:

"GET EVERYBODY TO PREORDER EVERYTHING OR YOU WILL BE TERMINATED."

One time I got the schpiel from a dude at the register and I just looked him in the eye and said "You guys are all fucking robots." He laughed nervously and looked away to say "Yeah..."

[MarioColbert]

Having grown up with Sierra and LucasArts, the Wii's access to pre-GameCube software library has been keeping me plenty occupied. I'm also really, really busy, so for a while it was nothing but A Link To The Past and Metroid 3 (Super Metroid, if you want to be a dick about it) - since I never owned a SNES (though someone did give me their spare one).

[OMGpenguin]

Having grown up with Sierra and LucasArts, the Wii's access to pre-GameCube software library has been keeping me plenty occupied. I'm also really, really busy, so for a while it was nothing but A Link To The Past and Metroid 3 (Super Metroid, if you want to be a dick about it) - since I never owned a SNES (though someone did give me their spare one).

Yeah, the virtual console is cool as hell, although it seems they're releasing a lot of "meh" games lately... they're probably saving a good batch for winter though. If they keep releasing solid games like SMW, Zeldas, etc, they'll keep getting my money, a couple dollars at a time.

And if anybody would like to suggest that the ROMs are available on the internet, and I'm wasting money, I'd like to know how iTunes got so sucessful (since music is easier than ROMs to procure)...

[Snake2715]

Well someone had the 3D puzzle and it recently closed on ebay....:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ZACK-WIKI-3D-PUZZLE-WII-NINTENDO-LIMITED-EDITION-NIP_W0QQitemZ220158523842QQihZ012QQcategoryZ45101Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[MarioColbert]

And if anybody would like to suggest that the ROMs are available on the internet, and I'm wasting money, I'd like to know how iTunes got so sucessful (since music is easier than ROMs to procure)...

Well, the illegals should only fix what needs fixing... Mother 1 / EarthBound 0 is a good example.

There are certainly titles that I really need to play through. In particular, StarFox 64 will be my next one, since unlike my awesome wife, I never owned a Nintendo 64. She ASKED HER PARENTS for one...

If you think that's awesome, it's not always so. Night before last, I was rudely awakened from a blissful nap, since I was required to play Zelda for her amusement. I'm not sure what the fuck I was dreaming about, but I know there was a huge axe and an umlaut involved.

[schuerm26]

I fulfilled my duty and purchased it. I went to a couple gamestops and I think each got 3 copies in or so.

[Scrubking]

More awesomeness. It appears a lot of the extra, collectible stuff is fanservice from other Capcom games - like music, etc. I just played a minigame where the music was from Ghost and Goblins. There seems to be collectible characters from other games too.

[MarioColbert]

More awesomeness. It appears a lot of the extra, collectible stuff is fanservice from other Capcom games - like music, etc. I just played a minigame where the music was from Ghost and Goblins. There seems to be collectible characters from other games too.

D00D that's awesome news. (Not really a bad spoiler, either).

Can't wait to get home. My wife's excited, too! 30 more minutes...

[MisterHand]

Amazon had one copy left as of a few minutes ago.

Edit: Out of stock till 10/27.Well, this pisses me off. I pre-ordered at Amazon, but I have an "estimated ship date" of 10/29. If they had them in stock, they should have shipped them to pre-order customers.

[Scrubking]

Also, when you play the game make sure to exit to the main screen before you turn your Wii off or you might lose some items. The game just told me when I got to a certain area.

I just beat the fish stage and the way you drop the bomb in the water is so cool. This is what the Wiimote was made for. Awesome.

[schuerm26]

Also, when you play the game make sure to exit to the main screen before you turn your Wii off or you might lose some items. The game just told me when I got to a certain area.

I just beat the fish stage and the way you drop the bomb in the water is so cool. This is what the Wiimote was made for. Awesome.

Can you put stuff like that in spoilers please? Might not be an integral part but I prefer to see it rather than read about it. Maybe that isn't that big of a deal that you said that. If im wrong about the spoiler part tell me to shut up.

Also does this game autosave after puzzles, I had to run real quickly and I just turned the system off after the 1st part was cleared. I was back in the base

Brilliant start for an adventure game. It's weird because you don't normally associated adventure type games with the feeling of urgency to get things done.

[The Crotch]

Well, this pisses me off. I pre-ordered at Amazon, but I have an "estimated ship date" of 10/29. If they had them in stock, they should have shipped them to pre-order customers.Ignore that. Their "estimated ship dates" are as useful as Corruption's Phazon Grapple.

Now hurry the fuck up, eStarland.com!

[botticus]

Can you put stuff like that in spoilers please? Might not be an integral part but I prefer to see it rather than read about it. Maybe that isn't that big of a deal that you said that. If im wrong about the spoiler part tell me to shut up.

Also does this game autosave after puzzles, I had to run real quickly and I just turned the system off after the 1st part was cleared. I was back in the base

Brilliant start for an adventure game. It's weird because you don't normally associated adventure type games with the feeling of urgency to get things done.Yeah, I was they were a bit more clear on when it autosaved. But I approve of this game, scores are definitely accurate. Other than some jaggies during the cinematics, the graphics are fantastic; sound is decent; rest of the game is fantastic.

Made it through the third stage (difficulty 3/10). Died once right away there, but then I figured things out. It's all really quite brilliant. Pay close attention when they show you the overview of the level at the beginning, there might be important things there that are hard to see while you're playing.

The only motion I've had issues with so far is the grasping tool. I don't know if it's wanting me to use the IR or motion to move it around, but I've gotten it to work somehow.

There are also some amazing non-motion things they've come up with. Wait till near the end of the third stage.

[Scrubking]

Yeah, I was they were a bit more clear on when it autosaved. But I approve of this game.

Made it through the third stage (difficulty 3/10). Died once right away there, but then I figured things out. It's all really quite brilliant. Pay close attention when they show you the overview of the level at the beginning, there might be important things there that are hard to see while you're playing.

The only motion I've had issues with so far is the grasping tool. I don't know if it's wanting me to use the IR or motion to move it around, but I've gotten it to work somehow.

There are also some amazing non-motion things they've come up with. Wait till near the end of the third stage.

I think it saves every time the main load screen comes up - you know the one with the hands holding the Wiimotes.

[botticus]

I think it saves every time the main load screen comes up - you know the one with the hands holding the Wiimotes.Makes sense. That and when you go back to the title page (if they don't show the load screen there, don't recall).

[supershammy]

Just picked it up at my local GS. I had apparently called a different store when they told me that they received it but needed to process it. The store I just bought the game at had to dig through boxes until they came across this teeeny FedEx box with a couple of copies of Z&W along with some new Phoenix Wrights. Went ahead and picked up RE4 and Godfather:BE with the B1G1 50% off coupon while I was there =) Super stoked!

[schuerm26]

My 1 minor gripe (and I emphasize minor) is that I wish I could move with the analog stick.

[Scrubking]

My 1 minor gripe (and I emphasize minor) is that I wish I could move with the analog stick.

Then it wouldn't be a point-and-click adventure. ;)

[ihadFG]

Just got my shipping e-mail from estarland. I should have it sometime this week.

[Razzuel]

What the hell?!

I tried Best Buy first. Nope they said they wouldn't get it until tomorrow.

Ok then I tried Circuit City. I asked and the guy brought it up and said the computer lists it as in stock. He goes to check the back. Comes back and says nope, go try Game Stop.

I hate Gamestop and I was tired of driving everywhere so instead of wasting my gas I called. Lady said she would look for it and never came back to the phone (they don't deserve my money anyway).

I call Walmart and the person took so long to look for the damn game their phone hung up.

So thats all fucking stupid. I am going to have to check again tomorrow.

[chakan]

Got my preorder puzzle from Gamecrazy, and a promise of 10% off because it wasn't in today because of "internal shipping problems"

Wish I had it today, but $4 off tomorrow or Friday is nice.


Its too bad this game won't sell well; its obvious that retailers are understocking this title.

[soonersfan60]

Is Toys R Us getting this? The guy couldn't find it in the computer...

[supershammy]

To those who are playing this, did anyone else find the maestro bit in the third/fourth stage nigh impossible? I played it ten times and never did it right. If you beat it, what is the reward?

Other than that, solving the puzzles is really, really gratifying. I like holding the mote and thinking to myself "What is this supposed to be this time?"

[Zen Davis]

I like holding the mote and thinking to myself "What is this supposed to be this time?"
The answer to the fifth puzzle is 'a penis'. Stroke it hard!

[io]

Got my preorder puzzle from Gamecrazy, and a promise of 10% off because it wasn't in today because of "internal shipping problems"

Wish I had it today, but $4 off tomorrow or Friday is nice.


Its too bad this game won't sell well; its obvious that retailers are understocking this title.

Damn, I wish I had known about this preorder puzzle. I called GC and they didn't have it (the game) nor had any idea when they might have it... But I suppose this may be why ("internal shipping problems").

[botticus]

Got my preorder puzzle from Gamecrazy, and a promise of 10% off because it wasn't in today because of "internal shipping problems"

Wish I had it today, but $4 off tomorrow or Friday is nice.


Its too bad this game won't sell well; its obvious that retailers are understocking this title.Wel crap, now I'm gonna have to hope that the store I go to tomorrow has puzzles, or I'm going to feel the need to search it out or feel ripped off.

To those who are playing this, did anyone else find the maestro bit in the third/fourth stage nigh impossible? I played it ten times and never did it right. If you beat it, what is the reward?

Other than that, solving the puzzles is really, really gratifying. I like holding the mote and thinking to myself "What is this supposed to be this time?"You're supposed to flick the remote whenever the note lines up with the red marker. Then when the squiggly lines come through, you're supposed to keep shaking it. I never managed to hit the squiggly lines part (missed the note before), but I got most of the other ones. You don't need to be perfect, seeing as how I wasn't. He turned into a chest with a secret treasure map (#3). Might be different depending on how well you do.

Got stumped for real at the first boss stage. Taking a break for now, but I'll be giving it another try before using the hint system for the first time.

[Legolas813]

Then the other guy (manager?), started laughing when he found out I was picking up Zack and Wiki. I don't know if he was laughing at the name or what, but whatever.

I asked about this game yesterday at Gamestop and got laughed at by the manager as well. He was laughing and saying. " You're kidding, right? Is this for you or your girlfriend?" What a dumbass.

I don't know about the rest of you, but everytime I pick up an adventure game at GameStop (or certain other stores), the employees always either laugh at what I'm buying or they are like WTF is this piece of crap and try to sell me something else with more action and violence.

And twice I've been stopped while buying a PC game by a GameStop employee because they wanted to make sure I knew what I was getting into by buying a PC game (they explained that it wouldn't work in a "playstation"). Are people that dumb that they don't know what games work in what systems? And are people that biased against adventure games?

[Zen Davis]

I don't know about the rest of you, but everytime I pick up an adventure game at GameStop (or certain other stores), the employees always either laugh at what I'm buying or they are like WTF is this piece of crap and try to sell me something else with more action and violence.

And twice I've been stopped while buying a PC game by a GameStop employee because they wanted to make sure I knew what I was getting into by buying a PC game (they explained that it wouldn't work in a "playstation"). Are people that dumb that they don't know what games work in what systems? And are people that biased against adventure games?

Next time tell them that even though they may be trying to help you, they're only patronizing you instead.

[vgossain]

Got my preorder puzzle from Gamecrazy, and a promise of 10% off because it wasn't in today because of "internal shipping problems"

Wish I had it today, but $4 off tomorrow or Friday is nice.


Its too bad this game won't sell well; its obvious that retailers are understocking this title.

Wait, was it GameCrazy that had the puzzle or Gamestop? I have some credit at GameCrazy, so I'll buy it there if I can get the puzzle. Otherwise, I'll wait for that TRU 20% off coupon.

[botticus]

Preorder bonus from Capcom: "For a limited time receive a free Zack & Wiki™ limited edition 3D lenticular puzzle with purchase." (You do have to pay around $7 for shipping, so it's not really free.)

BUT, it seems to say you can also get the preorder deal from GameStop, though I don't know if it has to be instore, since I see no indication of the bonus on the GameStop website.

"This Zack & Wiki lenticular 3D puzzle is now available as a free gift with purchase of Zack & Wiki: Quest For Barbaos' Treasure . This is an exclusive offer through Gamestop and the official Capcom Store. There are very limited quantities, so pre-order immediately."

It was supposedly available through GameStop, not Game Crazy, so who knows what the deal is. The fact that there were so few games shipped and still not a puzzle with each one is sort of silly.

[Legendaryhedgehog06]

I had a hell of a tim getting this today. No I didn't pre order it but still I didnt think it would be so hard to find a stor copy. I went to 2 stores and a friend of mine at one of them said he would give me a call when it came in (It was stuck in transit in a box that also containd Phoenix Wright 3 and something else)

3 hours later I get the call and pick up Z + W for 36 after my 10% coup. They had no idea what the game was or what it was called which made me a little more confident abot my purchase.

[buttle]

man this game is hard. an obnoxious amount of text at the begining. i'm going to give myself some time with this one. right now i'm stuck at the fifth or sixth puzzle. i think i'm going to go back to mercury meltdown for the night.

i'm very impressed though. having a very good time. i hope i start to get better at some point.

[meerkatgamer]

I picked up my Zack and wiki from gamestop was gamestop getting the pre-order puzzles or is it gamecrazy and capcom's site only way to get it? I forgot to ask about that when I got it either way i'm glad I have the game.

I just started the game is pretty good so far.

[schuerm26]

man this game is hard. an obnoxious amount of text at the begining. i'm going to give myself some time with this one. right now i'm stuck at the fifth or sixth puzzle. i think i'm going to go back to mercury meltdown for the night.

i'm very impressed though. having a very good time. i hope i start to get better at some point.

Im with you on the hard part, not with you on the text part. As far as I recall (yes it is tough for me to recall 5 hours ago), I don't recall any overload of text.

Zack and Wiki, why I love adventure games and the exact reason I bought it day one. I want more point and click as the Wii is perfect for it.

The feeling of being stumped by a puzzle in an adventure game and then finally figuring it out is unmatched. I want a Broken Sword compilation for the Wii (also Monkey Island, Space Quest, Police Quest, any Sierra adv. game, plus some adventure game company games :))

Edit: Forgot Lucasarts old point and click games also (can't remember the name, but the one about the biker was great and so was The Dig)

[clockworkgreen]

Edit: Forgot Lucasarts old point and click games also (can't remember the name, but the one about the biker was great and so was The Dig)

Full Throttle, Loom, Sam and Max, Indiana Jones, Day of the Tentacle, Monkey Islands, etc.

Got me through high school. :)

[Zen Davis]

Im with you on the hard part, not with you on the text part. As far as I recall (yes it is tough for me to recall 5 hours ago), I don't recall any overload of text.

Zack and Wiki, why I love adventure games and the exact reason I bought it day one. I want more point and click as the Wii is perfect for it.

The feeling of being stumped by a puzzle in an adventure game and then finally figuring it out is unmatched. I want a Broken Sword compilation for the Wii (also Monkey Island, Space Quest, Police Quest, any Sierra adv. game, plus some adventure game company games :))

Edit: Forgot Lucasarts old point and click games also (can't remember the name, but the one about the biker was great and so was The Dig)

Lucasarts put out a pretty decent game in Thrillville for the Wii last week but it looks like its going to be horrible overlooked.

[Legolas813]

Lucasarts put out a pretty decent game in Thrillville for the Wii last week but it looks like its going to be horrible overlooked.

I'm hyped for the game, but I'm waiting for a significant price drop since I'll be spending too much money on Zack and Wiki and Super Mario Galaxy.

[The Crotch]

The feeling of being stumped by a puzzle in an adventure game and then finally figuring it out is unmatched. I want a Broken Sword compilation for the Wii (also Monkey Island, Space Quest, Police Quest, any Sierra adv. game, plus some adventure game company games :))

Edit: Forgot Lucasarts old point and click games also (can't remember the name, but the one about the biker was great and so was The Dig)The biker game was Full Throttle. Also, Lucasarts did Monkey Island, not Sierra - though the latter still had King's Quest (I can't get ye flask!).

Edit: Forgot Grim Fandango. You owe it to yourself to play that game. And to the children.

[MarioColbert]

NERDFEST!

Man, Zack & Wiki is proper adventure, they weren't lying.

The bad news is that my Wii got the gfx glitches - I saw them during Twilight Princess, but the game looked "odd" on other systems as well. Now that Zack & Wiki's cel-shading is in, it leaves no room for doubt - my Wii is one of the defective ones...

Sad that I'm going to lose my LoZ:aLttP Savegame :(

Z&W: THE SPOILER IS A BIG ONE - DO NOT READ UNLESS YOU ARE FINISHED WITH THE FIRST AREA IN THE GAME.
Okay, ringing the bell and hiding to confuse the monster is an excellent puzzle. Also, I'm amazed when puzzles that _could_ be painful are not, such as finding the Scale Vase in the boss level, despite the fact that it CLEARLY appears to be out of your reach. Man, this game rocks. I need to replay the fountain level, because stupid fishing made me have a rank less than Unpuzzleable or whatever.

[AdvOfJet]

I hope you guys are right about this game. First time I have went out and blind bought a game on release day based on someone else;s opinion.

I love adventures games like the afore mentioned Dig, Maniac Mansion, Sam and Max, Grim Fandango...so I have very hogh hopes for this game.

[trq]

Perhaps most have tried other stuff and didn't like it? Game's aren't art (to me anyway--but to each their own). I'm not going to subject myself to crap I hate like RTS games, MMORPGs etc. just to "experience the full range."

I just play some games to unwind and relax a couple evenings a week, no need for me to step out of genre's I love to play games in those I've tried and didn't care for.

Hey man, you're posting in a Zack & Wiki thread -- obviously you're not that limited in your genre preference. ;)

[Zen Davis]

Hey man, you're posting in a Zack & Wiki thread -- obviously you're not that limited in your genre preference. ;)

He justs like to be heard. Nothing to do with genre preference.

[MarioColbert]

If you found the opening "too easy" - please proceed to World 2. Have fun, don't bitch. Puzzles OWN for now., well, kinda...

[dmaul1114]

Hey man, you're posting in a Zack & Wiki thread -- obviously you're not that limited in your genre preference. ;)

I do have reasonably broad tastes, there's just certain genre's I don't like at all like RTS, MMRPG, most J-RPGs etc.

I'm not big on point and click adventure games (too slow paced for my taste) but this is getting such great reviews I'll definitely have to check it out at some point in time.

[Zen Davis]

I do have reasonably broad tastes, there's just certain genre's I don't like at all like RTS, MMRPG, most J-RPGs etc.

I'm not big on point and click adventure games (too slow paced for my taste) but this is getting such great reviews I'll definitely have to check it out at some point in time.

I wouldn't suggest it man. You'd end up gamefaqs'ing the entire thing and only end up getting half the playtime of everyone else.

[MarioColbert]

I wonder if you can... Buy a hint and restart your Wii, and keep doing that until you solved the whole thing. Now, that wouldn't quite change things - but it WOULD make you a little bit less of a cheater...

So far, the game is AWESOME. If any hardcore adventure fans really hate this one - I'd love to hear why. I promise that I won't argue.

[Zen Davis]

I promise that I won't argue.
Then why are you holding that knife behind your back?

[chakan]

Wait, was it GameCrazy that had the puzzle or Gamestop? I have some credit at GameCrazy, so I'll buy it there if I can get the puzzle. Otherwise, I'll wait for that TRU 20% off coupon.My Game Crazy had the puzzle. It was holographic and had a magnetic back. Its also flat enough to probably fit in the case, when I get it.

[MarioColbert]

I'm in the third area, but I've been going slow, getting everything everywhere... Still, the most I get our of a level is 70% - any info my way would be appreciated, just don't spoil puzzles!

If it wasn't for a few somewhat annoying control issues (making Zack run where he needs to - the game would be beautiful with the mouse, but if you press A one too many times, Zack's pathfinding gets "kkrazy!" or whenever Zack is in the water!) I'd say the game is pretty much perfect for now.

Puzzle Highlights of World 2:
1.The Crystal Key Level - beautifully done, despite the obvious simplicity of the mechanic. I've tried to also go woot about one particular touch of this level, but it is impossible to mention it without spoiling the solution, and this isn't this kind of spoiler...

2.The Boss Battle is a classic, although I died about 10 times in a row. Probably the most exciting way to implement that classic dumbass game mechanic.

3.Getting the frog in that Chandelier stage - you know you're going to need that damn frog pretty much from the first frame of the level. The solution to the puzzle is elegant, logical, and bad ass.

Least Favorite Puzzles So far:
1. What's the deal with the "push a button and you're now dead?" - that's Sierra's trademark, isn't it? Really annoying, since in some cases YOU CAN NOT TELL what's going to happen.

2.Bell-ing the dude that's running away from the bull. The dialog surrounding that puzzle is straight up misleading in a mean way.

3.I wasn't aware you could just walk the fuck up to the boss and ring your bell - that's not adventure enough for me. my way, you got to lead the meanie the wrong way, and then step on a loose plank, and then ricochet some shit off of some other shit, and then bam - done! Zack & Wiki is like: ring the bell elsewhere, and you'z fucked - ring it right next to the boss - that's the puzzle there! The puzzle was called "where iz ur testikkliez?"

[Mr Durand Pierre]

Can anyone actually play those rhythm mini-games where you have to shake the wiimote at just the right time? I'm finding them to be nigh on impossible as shaking a wiimote is so imprecise and you need to time it very well. I mean I'll usually get a green light followed by a red light or two, so Ill start moving it less and then it won't register at all. I just don't get it. And without giving too much away, can anyone tell me if you need to beat those to "complete" the game 100% or do they just effect stuff like your score?

It seems like a pretty great game so far, but I'm finding the Wii controls rather fidgety and awkward. I also hate the concept of having to buy more lives. I could sort of understand that in something like Devil May Cry, but in a puzzle solving adventure game it seems really out of place and adds to unnecessary tedium. Don't get me wrong, it's otherwise a great game, and I look forward to playing it more as the puzzles are fantastic.

[utopianmachine]

Just finished putting about an hour and a half into Zack & Wiki. Man, I'm diggin this game. I'm still in the first area, on the puzzle with the giant fish. I screwed it up somehow but yeah, I was grinning the whole while.

This is a really great game that shows some serious love. I'm taking a break with some Clubhouse Games Billiards now.

[buttle]

Can anyone actually play those rhythm mini-games where you have to shake the wiimote at just the right time? I'm finding them to be nigh on impossible as shaking a wiimote is so imprecise and you need to time it very well. I mean I'll usually get a green light followed by a red light or two, so Ill start moving it less and then it won't register at all. I just don't get it. And without giving too much away, can anyone tell me if you need to beat those to "complete" the game 100% or do they just effect stuff like your score?

i'm having the same trouble you're having. a rhythm game with motions needs to be a little more forgiving in my opinion. the whole thing seemed a little out of place.

[io]

You're just mad that you have to buy it now.

Indeed. And I went to another Gamecrazy Weds night and they have no idea when they are getting it, if they are getting preorder bonuses (no one preordered it there), or just about anything for that matter. Not only do I have to buy this game, but it isn't being made easy to do (at least somewhere I have credit - not forking over $40 in cash even if this got solid 10's).

I hadn't checked this thread in a day - amazing how far back I had to look to find your response!

[Scrubking]

Can anyone actually play those rhythm mini-games where you have to shake the wiimote at just the right time? I'm finding them to be nigh on impossible as shaking a wiimote is so imprecise and you need to time it very well. I mean I'll usually get a green light followed by a red light or two, so Ill start moving it less and then it won't register at all. I just don't get it. And without giving too much away, can anyone tell me if you need to beat those to "complete" the game 100% or do they just effect stuff like your score?

It seems like a pretty great game so far, but I'm finding the Wii controls rather fidgety and awkward. I also hate the concept of having to buy more lives. I could sort of understand that in something like Devil May Cry, but in a puzzle solving adventure game it seems really out of place and adds to unnecessary tedium. Don't get me wrong, it's otherwise a great game, and I look forward to playing it more as the puzzles are fantastic.

It's user error. Check your setup or something. I had no problems and finished the mini-game on my first try.

[botticus]

If you're talking about the first music mini-game, I had no issues outside of just bad timing on my part at certain points. When it was just a simple beat I had no problems.

[hlb96]

Played the first stage with my 3.5 year old son and he had a blast (I did also). I can't wait to play more. This game was off my radar untill the reviews were so high.

[mickeyp]

I am on my way to gamestop to get it at 10 am

[Wolfkin]

It looks like the price pretty much everywhere is $39.99. So i'm turning to my 10% coupons. I've seen one in somoene's sig for EB/GS and I have one for Target via BRP (http://www.bordersrewardsperks.com). I guess I'd really like to get it from BB and use my rewards card but I can't find a BB 10% coupon. Any other suggestions for I take the plunge at Target?

[Legendaryhedgehog06]

This game is one of th best gams I have played in a long time. This jumps up into my number 3 spot of best Wi games so far (Twilight princess and Sonic being 1 and 2)

It looks beautiful with such colourful environments and fluid animation. The game is just fun and the controls are very resposnive and intuitive.

If you don't own this yet get it now!!!

I almost feel bad I only paid 36 bucks of GS credit for this. I would've been happy paying full price for a game of this caliber.

[dmaul1114]

I wouldn't suggest it man. You'd end up gamefaqs'ing the entire thing and only end up getting half the playtime of everyone else.

Nah, I'm not much for gamefaqs or guides. It's more likely I'd get stuck or bored with it, as I have with other adventure games, but that's why it's a rental first for sure.

Unlike some genres like RTS, I don't feel like I've played enough adventure games (I think only 3 over the years--Myst, Full Throttle and Phoenix Wright) to totally write the genre off as something I just don't like at all yet. Especially with it being on the Wii and thus involving more than pointing with all the motion stuff which looks pretty cool.

[Zen Davis]

Nah, I'm not much for gamefaqs or guides. It's more likely I'd get stuck or bored with it, as I have with other adventure games, but that's why it's a rental first for sure.

Unlike some genres like RTS, I don't feel like I've played enough adventure games (I think only 3 over the years--Myst, Full Throttle and Phoenix Wright) to total write the genre off as something I just don't like at all yet. Especially with it being on the Wii and thus involving more than pointing with all the motion stuff which looks pretty cool.

I hated Myst. If there was ever a game that served no point than to be eye candy. Phoenix Wright on the other hand is love. :bow:

[dmaul1114]

I hated Myst. If there was ever a game that served no point than to be eye candy. Phoenix Wright on the other hand is love. :bow:

Yeah, I hated Myst as well. Phoenix Wright was just ok to me. I played all the way through it, but I was pretty sick of it about halfway through.

[Snake2715]

I hated Myst. If there was ever a game that served no point than to be eye candy. Phoenix Wright on the other hand is love. :bow:

You know I wouldnt even call Phoenix wright a true adventure... maybe I didnt get far enough yet in the first one but it reminds me of a mixed genre of game rather than a full blooded adventure.

Myst was nothing more than eye candy and the thing that annoyed me is it was not fluid from one scene to the next... maybe i just prefer 3rd person adventures over myst and its clones.

dmaul,

Then in my opinion you have yet to give the genre a fair shake (full throttle is a good one thougha nd it seems you had no problems with it). Even go to AGS and download the Kings quest 2 remake (its free) and see if you like the genre before you write it off. Zack and Wiki appears to be more in line with what I consider true adventure games, although i have yet to play it.

[Zen Davis]

According to Capcom:

"It's being carried by pretty much all of the majors nationwide and our day one numbers were not insignificant (though they could always be higher), but if you're having trouble finding it, Wal-mart took a large order and likely won't be swamped by first day pre-order customers. It may take them a couple extra days to get it on the shelf, but they should have plenty to go around when it starts trickling into their stores (I'd assume by Friday/Saturday in most cases)."

[utopianmachine]

Just finished the first area with a 70%. Would my percentage go up if I replayed previous areas better/faster?

[chakan]

I just beat the first puzzle!

...


...


My preorder bonus, that is. Time to call again and see if its in stock....sigh.

[Zen Davis]

You know I wouldnt even call Phoenix wright a true adventure... maybe I didnt get far enough yet in the first one but it reminds me of a mixed genre of game rather than a full blooded adventure.
Myst was nothing more than eye candy and the thing that annoyed me is it was not fluid from one scene to the next... maybe i just prefer 3rd person adventures over myst and its clones.

dmaul,

Then in my opinion you have yet to give the genre a fair shake (full throttle is a good one thougha nd it seems you had no problems with it). Even go to AGS and download the Kings quest 2 remake (its free) and see if you like the genre before you write it off. Zack and Wiki appears to be more in line with what I consider true adventure games, although i have yet to play it.

Phoenix Wright is what I would refer to as an interactive book than an adveture actually.

What I hated about Myst was the game felt to have no rhyme nor reason as to what the hell you were doing. It just served to look pretty (and contained nothing I would consider gameplay) and sold millions of copies.

I think Zack and Wiki will be almost like Megaman Legends meets Indiana Jones meets Oddworld (PSX)/Out of This World/Flashback. I'm getting my copy today so I haven't had a chance to play it, but what I can gather from impressions, reviews and trailers, you have to get through a series of challenges (ala Indiana Jones) to get the treasures (using the art design of Megaman Legends) and the guess and check puzzle aspects of Oddworld, Out of This World, and Flashback.

[4est]

Is there any more detail about the jigsaw preorder bonus?

My wife preordered it this week at our local Gamestop without me knowing and she didnt get anything when she picked it up.

[dmaul1114]

dmaul,

Then in my opinion you have yet to give the genre a fair shake (full throttle is a good one thougha nd it seems you had no problems with it). Even go to AGS and download the Kings quest 2 remake (its free) and see if you like the genre before you write it off. Zack and Wiki appears to be more in line with what I consider true adventure games, although i have yet to play it.

Full Throttle was ok. My main problem with adventure games is that they're too slow and passive for my short attention span. :D I prefer games were I have full control of the character and spend most of my time shooting, slashing or jumping on bad guys. :D

But I'll definitely have to check out that Kings Quest 2 remake sometime sense it's free. Thanks for the tip!

[eugaet]

I love all the old LucasArts games...still have all my original copies. And the Sierra ones, as well. Those are the games I grew up with.

I just got back w/ my copy of Z&W. Probably won't have a chance to play it until this weekend. though.

[botticus]

Just finished the first area with a 70%. Would my percentage go up if I replayed previous areas better/faster?Hard to say if that means more stages will pop up in that area later or if it means there are treasures and whatnot still hidden. I know I missed some already, but I need to beat the boss before I find out what percentage I finish with. But I have to work for 3 more hours until I can do that.

[MarioColbert]

I really hate the King's Quest series, despite the obvious awesomness of KQ6 and marginal "pioneering" value of KQ5. KQ4 is probably my favorite, actually, now that I think about it, though that game is a BITCH.

I was fine with MYST - as long as you've read every book in the library, the complete owner's manual, and four novels on the subject, you should have no confusion whatsoever as to where you are, why, and what the point is.

No, just kidding, MYST blew, and I loved it.


Zen: there is ONE way to explain Zack & Wiki. It's basically Goblins 3 (a.k.a. GoblinsQuest in the U.S.), except all the screens are cingular, and you only have one sidekick. Gobliiins, Gobliins2, and Goblins3 were all bad-ass, and some of my favorite games as a kid - developed by Frenchies Cocktel Vision... Also, I should mention that the last game they made makes Zack & Wiki look like the easiest shit in the world. It's called Woodruff and Shnibble of Azimuth, and it plays about the same as what it sounds like.

And if you want to get into Adventure games, all you really need to know whether or not you're a lost cause is to go down this list:

day of the tentacle
the secret of monkey island
space quest iv (though I'll always be The Pirates of Pestulon guy)
grim fandango
the longest journeyCall us in a month, dmaul, we're rooting for you.

[The Crotch]

Monkey Island II didn't do much for me, but I and III were both fantastic. Grim Fandango's still probably the best, though.

"What happened to you, Manny? So cold. So cynical. What happened to your love of life?"
"I died."

[MarioColbert]

Hard to say if that means more stages will pop up in that area later or if it means there are treasures and whatnot still hidden. I know I missed some already, but I need to beat the boss before I find out what percentage I finish with. But I have to work for 3 more hours until I can do that.

I beat two areas so far. One with each level getting an "Unpuzzleable" rating (highest possible). The other area, everything but one level has the "Unpuzzleable" rating. Both show up at 70%. I've replayed the levels, in hope of finding something new. Unless someone has the guide to explain how to get 100% on levels, I'll be replaying my shit as much as possible.

[MarioColbert]

Monkey Island II didn't do much for me


BLASHPHEMY! :)

MI2 is my favorite of the series, by far. I do love MI1 and I like MI3 allright. Enough to own it on 2xCD!!! :)

[Tybee]

Monkey Island II didn't do much for me

Get out.











EDIT: Now.

[Razzuel]

Am I the only person that is finding it impossible to find this game?

Today I checked these stores:

Best Buy = Nope

Circuit City = Nope

Gamestop = Nope

Gamestop #2 = Nope

Walmart = Nope

Target = Nope

This is rediculous!

[dmaul1114]

the longest journey[/LIST]Call us in a month, dmaul, we're rooting for you.


A month? I wouldn't even get to any of those games till probably mid spring 2008 at the earliest. :lol:

I'll only venture out of my favored genre's during droughts, and I've got two years of 360 games to catch up on plus upcoming releases on it and the Wii. :D

But I may check out one of those (or the free Kings adventure remake) before then, if nothing else I could play when I feel like gaming and my roommate is watching TV.

[Zen Davis]

Am I the only person that is finding it impossible to find this game?

Today I checked these stores:

Best Buy = Nope

Circuit City = Nope

Gamestop = Nope

Gamestop #2 = Nope

Walmart = Nope

Target = Nope

This is rediculous!

Wal-mart.com has it.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5996716

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Wal-mart.com has it.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5996716

Target has it online as well, but I don't think they are carrying it in store yet.

http://www.target.com/Zack-Wiki-Barbaros-Treasure-Nintendo/dp/B000P297ES/sr=1-1/qid=1193341655/ref=sr_1_1/602-8350870-0795050?ie=UTF8&index=target&rh=k%3Azack%20and%20wiki&page=1

[eugaet]

Monkey Island II didn't do much for me[Slaps The Crotch with a glove and throws it at his feet.]

Gobliiins, Gobliins2, and Goblins3Those games were great.

[soyverde]

Picked mine up at GameCrazy. Apparently nobody had preordered it at that location (not surprising to me, it wasn't even on my radar). I figure I'll give it a try, since I haven't played a game in this genre since Myst. :-#

[Razzuel]

I'm aware that I can purchase online, but I didn't want to wait for it to ship here.

I thought I would be able to pick it up day one but no one in my area has it.

I will try again tomorrow.

[schuerm26]

Did anyone play the Legend of Kyrandia series? The first one was the best of the bunch but I thought they were pretty good. Actually some of my favorite PC point and click games. I also liked Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis. Though that one was frickin tough.


Edit: Zack and F'n Wiki. Why I love adventure games and why I hate adventure games. I get frustrated easily though :)

[Snake2715]

Full Throttle was ok. My main problem with adventure games is that they're too slow and passive for my short attention span. :D I prefer games were I have full control of the character and spend most of my time shooting, slashing or jumping on bad guys. :D

But I'll definitely have to check out that Kings Quest 2 remake sometime sense it's free. Thanks for the tip!


I meant to write AGD... but heres the link. I would think the KQ2 remake is much better than KQ1 remake... partly due to the fact that KQ1 is arguably the first adventure game ever (non text based) and so the remake had a lot less to work with. KQ2 remake is really a great example in my opinion.

http://www.agdinteractive.com/

Hers a picture visually what they did to the game... keep in mind now your playing a literal antique at about 20 years old...

http://www.agdinteractive.com/images/feature-kq2-00.jpg

Ooh Kyrandia... Yeah have the collection and loaned out game 3... never even played it. Luckily I found the 3rd cd case and game at a thrift store a year or two ago, which completed my boxed collection again. I liked those games back in the day. Actually to this day Adventure games are by far my favorite genre... although there have been many other great moments in many other genres.

[schuerm26]

Someone help me? What is this thing? I tossed over a rock and a mechanical bird of sorts is just hanging aroud. I click on it but nothing happens and I can't find anything in the manual.

[MarioColbert]

Stand under the bird, and RING YO BELL. Ring it long, and keep running after it - it'll rain moneys on you. Barbaros' skull gives you the hint about that, btw...

MC Faith in Humanity Awards 2007 (a.k.a. Humanity MUST KNOW ITS ADVENTURE GAMES, so says MarioColbert, so it is written!):

eugaet (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=39164) wins hard for knowing the Gobliiins series. Thank you, I really did think I was the only one...

schuerm26 (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=38138) wins hard for Kyrandia reference. I thought the best game in the series was Malcolm's Revenge. However, Hand of Fate is what I discovered the series with, and I really love it to this day - the female protagonist that magically changes outfits is funny and wrong... And I really loved the spell-making aspect of the game. The first one, however, is hard-core. Grandpa turns to stone, you're on your own... SHIIIIIT!

Tybee (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=21700) said exactly what I wanted to say, but enough people think of me as a dickhead thanks to my wonderfully idiotic input to the Manhunt 2 discussion.


I really wanna get ahold of Discoworld NOIR - it's the only one in the series I have yet to play. And naturally, from what I hear it's the best...

[schuerm26]

Stand under the bird, and RING YO BELL. Ring it long, and keep running after it - it'll rain moneys on you. Barbaros' skull gives you the hint about that, btw...

MC Faith in Humanity Awards 2007 (a.k.a. Humanity MUST KNOW ITS ADVENTURE GAMES, so says MarioColbert, so it is written!):

eugaet (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=39164) wins hard for knowing the Gobliiins series. Thank you, I really did think I was the only one...

schuerm26 (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=38138) wins hard for Kyrandia reference. I thought the best game in the series was Malcolm's Revenge. However, Hand of Fate is what I discovered the series with, and I really love it to this day - the female protagonist that magically changes outfits is funny and wrong... And I really loved the spell-making aspect of the game. The first one, however, is hard-core. Grandpa turns to stone, you're on your own... SHIIIIIT!

Tybee (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=21700) said exactly what I wanted to say, but enough people think of me as a dickhead thanks to my wonderfully idiotic input to the Manhunt 2 discussion.


I really wanna get ahold of Discoworld NOIR - it's the only one in the series I have yet to play. And naturally, from what I hear it's the best...

Going back to Kyrandia, the 2nd and 3rd might have been better, Im really struggling to distinguish 2nd and 3rd, but the first got me with the box art. That box was bad ass when I was younger for some reason. I remember the first because of tossing different gems down a well or something of the sort and then having to go through some caves. Damn I loved that game though.

Box art coming in a minute. Not a great pic as it was much brighter in person.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/schuerm26/untitled.jpg

[MarioColbert]

Oh yeah! That is the best one - Kyrandia 2 and 3 cover art BLOWS...

Did anyone ever play a game called PRISONER OF ICE?

[eugaet]

eugaet (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=39164) wins hard for knowing the Gobliiins series. Thank you, I really did think I was the only one...You realize what you've done, right? Yeah, I'll have to replay all of them again now. And introduce my kids to the series...so when they're my (our?) age, they will be the only ones...

Ah, that cover art brings back memories. Westwood Studios, RIP.

EDIT: Here's (what I think is) an obscure point/click adventure game...Touché (http://www.quandaryland.com/jsp/dispArticle.jsp?index=204). Anyone played that one?

[schuerm26]

The 2 Tex Murphy games I have played I always thought were pretty decent also:

Mean Streets (never played)
Martian Memorandum (great one)
Under a killing Moon (never played)
Pandora Directive (good)
Tex Murphy: Overseer (never heard of. got off wikipedia)

[Zen Davis]

We should try to make an adventure game for Wii Ware.

[judyjudyjudy]

I loved the Kyrandia and Gobliiins games! The 2nd and 3rd Kyrandia games were definitely better than the first... I remember thinking the boxes don't really show the nature of the game (like their humor) or something.

I think I'm going to hit Gamestop for Zack & Wiki with the 10% coupon. (That was my lame attempt to get back on topic.)

[schuerm26]

1 last complaint I have (aside from the analog stick control I posted earlier), I went in expecting a graphic adventure type game like Monkey Island, NOT set stages.

This really makes no difference to me now since it is great, but I wasn't expecting a set area like it is, I was expecting a story with wandering around. No biggie. Great game.

[The Crotch]

First of all, you guys can take your monkey wrenches, wind-and-grog-assisted spitting, and fat-man-book-replacing and shove it.

Second, if you're willing to go online, eStarland.com has Z&W last I checked.

[eugaet]

The 2 Tex Murphy games I have played I always thought were pretty decent also:

Mean Streets (never played)
Martian Memorandum (great one)
Under a killing Moon (never played)
Pandora Directive (good)
Tex Murphy: Overseer (never heard of. got off wikipedia)I think I've played them all. Wait, no, I never started Overseer, I think. But I did have 15-20 sealed copies of Overseer in my closet. That was long before I joined CAG, though, when I thought I was going to go into the game reseller business.

We should try to make an adventure game for Wii Ware.Quick, where do I sign up?

First of all, you guys can take your monkey wrenches, wind-and-grog-assisted spitting, and fat-man-book-replacing and shove it.:lol: Hey, we're just giving you a hard time. To each their own. :D

Here's (what I think is) an obscure point/click adventure game...Touché (http://www.quandaryland.com/jsp/dispArticle.jsp?index=204). Anyone played that one?Anyone?

[The Crotch]

Too late. I'm sending Murray the Skull to come eat you. While he doesn't have limbs, sheer determination will allow him to reach you in approximately 5.9 months.

[schuerm26]

Since we are on the subject of old adventure games. What would I need to make this work on my computer (I have windows vista, horrible!)

http://free-game-downloads.mosw.com/abandonware/pc/adventure/games_b/beavis_and_butthead_in_virtual_stupidity.html

beavis and butthead virtual stupidity

If I download it I would need some program to make it work wouldn't I?

[eugaet]

I'm sending Murray the Skull to come eat you.Murray! I love Murray. I shall await his arrival. I think I still have his arm.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c4/Murray3.gif

[Zen Davis]

I love this thread! :)

[MarioColbert]

You realize what you've done, right? Yeah, I'll have to replay all of them again now. And introduce my kids to the series...so when they're my (our?) age, they will be the only ones...

Ah, that cover art brings back memories. Westwood Studios, RIP.

EDIT: Here's (what I think is) an obscure point/click adventure game...Touché (http://www.quandaryland.com/jsp/dispArticle.jsp?index=204). Anyone played that one?
Indeed, indeed. I'll have to replay them as well, and I actually have my DVDs of my half-assed attempt to collect ISOs of all Sierra oldies (ALL of them) which has both the floppy and the CD version of Goblins 3, because the CD version totally took away some awesome animations and replaced them with crappy ones.


Okay, here's a big one: RELENTLESS / Little Big Adventure and Little Big Adventure 2? Adeline Software's BEST... Not really "adventures" in a "puzzle" sense, but as far as proper adventuring all over the world, blew my mind.

Beavis & Butthead's Virtual Stupidity is extremely underrated - awesome adventure, though I really hated those guys when I played it. I'll try to find the website that lists compatibilities of old games.

Adventure Game for Wii Ware? We can make one for Windows at almost no cost... In fact, I'll pay for the engine licence and everything (Visionaire 2D would be easiest) if there are people interested in drawing me some bad ass backgrounds and doing png animations with transparecies.

Touche came out in 96, and I remember seeing SOMETHING about the game back in Russia. I came to the US in 96, so I never had the chance to play it, but it was hauntingly familiar sounding.


I love this thread, as well. Man, I hope to GOD Z&W outsells everyone so that puzzle-driven adventures will be like "the next FPS" in games... I kid, I kid...

[eugaet]

Okay, here's a big one: RELENTLESS / Little Big Adventure and Little Big Adventure 2? Adeline Software's BEST... Not really "adventures" in a "puzzle" sense, but as far as proper adventuring all over the world, blew my mind.Oh, hell yes. I've got both on my shelf, complete/mint. Bought the first on a whim after seeing it on the shelf many, many years ago. Awesome, awesome games.

Crotch, I just sent one of these in your general direction.

http://twinsunica.waxo.nl/images/7/75/Meca.gif

[MarioColbert]

http://twinsunica.waxo.nl/images/7/75/Meca.gif

RUN.

P.S. In the Temple of Bu, you can use these guys to trigger all the floor tiles, instead of going on those silly quests to get the statues.

[schuerm26]

Okay, here's a big one: RELENTLESS / Little Big Adventure and Little Big Adventure 2? Adeline Software's BEST... Not really "adventures" in a "puzzle" sense, but as far as proper adventuring all over the world, blew my mind.



I remember those. Wasn't it called something with Twinsen in the title (besides what you have listed)? I never got around to playing them but they did look good at the time.

There are so many damn good graphic adventure games. I remember when I was probably 7 or 8 playing a Laura Bow (I think that was her name) Sierra adventure when you were in a museum. It was an amazing game trying to figure out all the puzzles. The Wii seems like the perfect platform to bring these type of games back for relatively cheap.

If they can bring CSI, Broken Sword and Syberia to the XBOX, they can damn well bring more to the Wii and probably make more money.

As for the Wii being the perfect platform, where the hell are the RTS games. I can think of nothing easier than drawing a box with the wii remote to group people. Now Im off topic though! Back to the adventure games.

I think the Laura Bow game was called Dagger of Amon Ra, or something like that. (sadly I never even came close to finishing it)

Speaking of graphic adventures, why can I remember names of games I played when I was 7-10 but I can barely do long division or multiplication without a calculator?

[The Crotch]

Crotch, I just sent one of these in your general direction.

http://twinsunica.waxo.nl/images/7/75/Meca.gifVery well. But I'm going to send a meteor at you. It will be named "Attila". Try and stop it, and it will send you to another planet. Then your best friend will die. Then he'll come back to life. Somewhere along the way, you're going to have to assemble the skeleton of a turtle. It will all be very confusing.

[schuerm26]

Speaking of adventure games, does anyone remember the Hugo games? I remember one where you were in a hedge type maze and that's when I quit.

The only reason I remember those Hugo games is because I could play them on the grade school computers.

If anyone wants to shut up about old school adventure games, just post it and I'll stop :D

[Zen Davis]

If anyone wants to shut up about old school adventure games, just post it and I'll stop :D

It's cool. A little nostalgia never hurt anyone.

[io]

Just called 3 places:

1) Gamecrazy #1 (my favorite store) has 3 or 4 copies they got in today. But no preorder puzzles.

2) Other Gamecrazy (much less favorite due to asshat employees) has not gotten it in yet.

3) Gamestop SOLD OUT and did not have the puzzles at all either.

So, anyway, I don't want to spend any more time on this so I'm going to go snag a copy at GC #1. Oh well, no puzzle bonus, no biggie. At least I'm using up some of that load of GC credit I have ;). This game better be as good as you guys and all the reviewers are saying or there will be hell to pay!

[gunm]

I ran through the tutorial part last night, and yeah if you like puzzle games, this one will deliver. I'm not sure I'll feel as happy about the game once I start running into the "frustrating" puzzles, though. :)

[Redeema]

Those are better reviews than I expected. It's good to see a third party make a quality game, let's hope it doesn't go unnoticed.

[botticus]

I gave in and took a hint at the first boss level. Glad I did, as it was pretty basic, but just told me I'm not yet in the right mindset... easy to forget some of the mechanics you have available to you to solve puzzles. In this case I forgot I could flip stuff around, so I knew I had to use the umbrella to get down behind the boss, but I didn't think to flip it around and use the handle.

Back to a slightly easier difficulty in the first stage of the second area, got through that fairly easily after the built-in nudge. Some really creative shit going on in here, I want to meet the people who came up with this stuff.

[paz9x]

looks like i might be picking this up tomorrow.
i kinda dont want to as i still havent finished twilight princess or super paper mario. its either this or i wait for mario galaxy.

[Scrubking]

The way this game makes you use the wiimote is fucking incredible. Like when you have to rock the baby dragon in the fire boss level.

Also I'm glad Capcom decided to go with platinum tickets. I haven't used a lot of them, but once you get deep into a puzzle it just breaks your will to have to go all the way back. Imagine if they had stuck with their first decision and not included them?

[Strell]

FUCK YOU THE FOLLOWING:

GAMESTOP #1
GAMESTOP #2
GAMESTOP #3
WALMART
TARGET
BEST BUY
CIRCUIT CITY

FUCK ALL OF YOU.

[clockworkgreen]

1 word: ScummVM.

[Zen Davis]

FUCK YOU THE FOLLOWING:

GAMESTOP #1
GAMESTOP #2
GAMESTOP #3
WALMART
TARGET
BEST BUY
CIRCUIT CITY

FUCK ALL OF YOU.

wal-mart.com

[Strell]

I don't want to goddamn wait any more. I've wanted this game since the SECOND I heard about it. I specifically waited for that stupid buffer period, since all the stores here are retarded and usually don't even STOCK shit until Thursday, and NONE of them have it.

God fucking dammit.

If it weren't for the fact that I get PW3 tomorrow, you would know me by the trail of dead puppies.

[Zen Davis]

I don't want to goddamn wait any more. I've wanted this game since the SECOND I heard about it. I specifically waited for that stupid buffer period, since all the stores here are retarded and usually don't even STOCK shit until Thursday, and NONE of them have it.

God fucking dammit.

If it weren't for the fact that I get PW3 tomorrow, you would know me by the trail of dead puppies.

http://www.amazon.com/Zack-Wiki-Quest-Barbaros%252019-Treasure/dp/B000P297ES/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-6021560-6694242?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1193363554&sr=8-1

Amazon has stock as well... those poor puppies. Did you pick any specific breed or was it all good?

[Scrubking]

This is the last game I thought there would be shortages for. Even Amazon ran out at one point.

[botticus]

The way this game makes you use the wiimote is fucking incredible. Like when you have to rock the baby dragon in the fire boss level.

Also I'm glad Capcom decided to go with platinum tickets. I haven't used a lot of them, but once you get deep into a puzzle it just breaks your will to have to go all the way back. Imagine if they had stuck with their first decision and not included them?Platinum tickets are used when you pick the "revive" option, I assume?

[Scrubking]

Platinum tickets are used when you pick the "revive" option, I assume?

Yeah. I've used like four or five already.

[gunm]

I pre-ordered the day before it arrived @ my local Gamestop. No problems.

And I'm dreading having to use the revive, but I imagine I will go through quite a few of those. :p

[Legolas813]

While we're on the topic of adventure games, I thought I'd post my favorite FREEWARE PC adventures. These games were made by very small development teams for fun, not profit. But they are both excellent games, free of charge to download, and highly recommended.

Fate by Numbers (http://www.fatebynumbers.com/) - FMV futuristic detective game.
the white chamber (http://www.studiotrophis.com/site/projects/thewhitechamber) - Anime-style horror adventure.

[buttle]

i finally beat the first group of levels. i did have to use one hint. and i am very glad to have the option. i needed it for using the umbrella's handle to slide down the rope. i forgot that i could flip the umbrella. .

most of my complaints about the game are dissappearing since i've been figuring things out. before it was just hard and challenging but not fun. now it's getting pretty fun.

[buttle]

I gave in and took a hint at the first boss level.

ha, we both used the hint for the same thing. i absolutely love that they did nothing to remind you that you could do that. i'm going to go to more of an effort to remember my abilities from now on.

[drfunk85]

For those of you having trouble finding it, both buy.com and familyvideo.com have it in stock, and GCO and the $5 off would work, if you feel like waiting. I am thinking about ordering this from buy.com just because I'll want it over the holidays, but not now, and have a feeling it will be impossible to find.

[MrNEWZ]

I'm still on the fence about this one. With all the other stuff hanging around unopened until I have time in December or so I wonder... :-/

[io]

I don't want to goddamn wait any more. I've wanted this game since the SECOND I heard about it. I specifically waited for that stupid buffer period, since all the stores here are retarded and usually don't even STOCK shit until Thursday, and NONE of them have it.

God fucking dammit.

If it weren't for the fact that I get PW3 tomorrow, you would know me by the trail of dead puppies.

You got a Gamecrazy around there Strell? Mine actually had them up on the wall Thursday evening. At first he couldn't find them (after another guy told me on the phone they had 3 or 4) and I was right ready to get pissed. Then I saw them back on the regular game wall with all the other common Wii games. (The guy had gone into the back to look for it as, apparently, they usually keep new stuff back there).

Meanwhile the Gamestop 1/2 mile away had been sold out.

[Snake2715]

Best Buy had a few copies in an odd place yesterday evening after all.

[PhoenixT]

picked mine up at gamestop last night didnt have time to play it though. Thursdays are usually xbox live evenings with my buddies from back home.

[EXStrike]

w00t, EB finally shipped it! :D

[eugaet]

Very well. But I'm going to send a meteor at you. It will be named "Attila". Try and stop it, and it will send you to another planet. Then your best friend will die. Then he'll come back to life. Somewhere along the way, you're going to have to assemble the skeleton of a turtle. It will all be very confusing.Any further posts by you will require a Visa Code. The required Visa Code for your next post is: Section 4 (C 22).

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You didn't lose your Security System codebook, did you? Looks like you'll be spending the remainder of your days in the Katmandu jail.

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[Legolas813]

Has anyone's Amazon order shipped yet? I pre-ordered October 1 and my order has not even been touched yet. I imagine they have a huge backlog of pre-orders since they are telling people to buy from Target online now, and that new Amazon orders could have a 4-6 week wait.

[schuerm26]

what the hell am I doing wrong?


Im fishing at that water slide level but the fish just jumps up and goes back to it's cave? I used the hint system but it tells me to fish. :bomb: I can't tell if Im doing something wrong fishing motion control wise or if Im doing something in the wrong order. I can't think of anything I should be doing before I fish though. Yes I have the worm on the hook.


Im not even far in and Im frustrated.