View Full Version : See Fallout 3 as it could have been if Black Isle didn't fold *UPDATE! DEMO!!!*
Reality's Fringe
05-01-2007, 11:17 AM
The build that this footage is from has been put up for download. http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/dload.php?action=file&file_id=892
I'm downloading it now....I'll post impressions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uuDKrY7eW0
It's like a knife twisting deep into my heart. Please Bethesda, do a good job!
A couple of points:
-The game was almost finished, sans dialogue, some images, cleaned up graphics etc.
-It's codename was "VanBuren"- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Buren_%28Fallout%29
-That song is by Mama Casss Elliot, if you didn't know.
-Bethesda threw this build away when it purchased the IP
-It looks fucking awesome =(
Sulik2
05-01-2007, 11:26 AM
This makes me sad, I loved the fallout games back in the day. Heck I use Sulik as my go to online name. I wish this would have come out, I'm sure it would have been great.
However, I can see why it wasn't released from the clip. It looks nearly identicle to Fallout 2. Just with 3d character models and a slightly changed interface. In the years from Fallout 2 to when this would have been released more needed to change in the interface and graphics department to make this a hit with non-Fallout fans. Hopefully, Bethesda nails the open ended gameplay of Fallout and its great world and story, but with more modern interface and gameplay conventions. Minus the constant loading of Oblivion anyway.
jer7583
05-01-2007, 11:52 AM
Fallout and Fallout 2 are my absolute favorite and most played games ever. Everyone should play these games.
That was really sad to see, to see that it came along so far but never was released. It did look nice, but yeah, like sulik said, a bit too close to Fallout 2. Not that I would have complained, it still felt like Fallout, which is surprising for a 3D game.
Hopefully the fact that F3 was nearly finished means that a top notch story and scenarios were all in place by black isle before Bethesda came along and some of that Black Isle influence will still exist in Bethesda's F3. I hope they didn't throw away ALL the work Black Isle did.
Roufuss
05-01-2007, 11:56 AM
Sure, it looks good, but for all we know the story and feel of the game were complete shit... did it even have the people behind Fallout 1 and 2 behind it?
I applaud Bethesda for tossing the build, as I'd rather have Fallout move into 2007 then be rooted back in 98 forever, as this game looks to have done. Sulik2 nailed everything I had to say about this.
Bethesda is going to do a kick ass job, no doubt.
Reality's Fringe
05-01-2007, 11:58 AM
Sure, it looks good, but for all we know the story and feel of the game were complete shit... did it even have the people behind Fallout 1 and 2 behind it?
I applaud Bethesda for tossing the build, as I'd rather have Fallout move into 2007 then be rooted back in 98 forever, as this game looks to have done.
I think it did. The story:
"he following is a description of the scrapped development of Fallout 3 by Black Isle Studios. There is no guarantee whatsoever that Fallout 3, as is currently being developed by Bethesda Softworks, will even follow this plotline.
Although all the details of the story were never fully revealed, many important details were divulged during the game's development.
The game was to take place far East of California (the setting for the first 2 Fallout games), in the American Southwest (Arizona, Colorado, Utah, and Nevada).
The character would start the game as a prisoner. Whether the character was wrongfully imprisoned or guilty was to be determined at character creation. The game would have started with the character in a strange prison being attacked. An explosion would knock him unconscious, and, when he awakened, the cell door would open. Taking the opportunity to leave, the player would escape into the wasteland while being pursued by strange assailants. After leaving, the character would have the power to shape the destiny of the Wasteland. His interactions with organizations such as the Brotherhood of Steel could bolster or destroy the organizations, influencing people associated with them, much as in the previous two Fallout games.
One of the most significant elements of Fallout 3's plot and backstory was to be an ongoing war between the Brotherhood of Steel and the New California Republic.
The game's ultimate plotline was planned so that the events in the beginning of the game would have been part of a scheme by a rogue NCR scientist, Dr. Victor Presper, to seize control of a U.S. orbital nuclear weapons platform and use it to initiate a second nuclear holocaust, cleansing the world of all but his chosen few. In the end, it was so that the player could not stop all missiles from launching, and his or her decisions would ultimately have decided the future of the world."
And you have to remember that this build is from like, 2000 or so.
Roufuss
05-01-2007, 12:02 PM
I think it did. The story:
"he following is a description of the scrapped development of Fallout 3 by Black Isle Studios. There is no guarantee whatsoever that Fallout 3, as is currently being developed by Bethesda Softworks, will even follow this plotline.
Although all the details of the story were never fully revealed, many important details were divulged during the game's development.
The game was to take place far East of California (the setting for the first 2 Fallout games), in the American Southwest (Arizona, Colorado, Utah, and Nevada).
The character would start the game as a prisoner. Whether the character was wrongfully imprisoned or guilty was to be determined at character creation. The game would have started with the character in a strange prison being attacked. An explosion would knock him unconscious, and, when he awakened, the cell door would open. Taking the opportunity to leave, the player would escape into the wasteland while being pursued by strange assailants. After leaving, the character would have the power to shape the destiny of the Wasteland. His interactions with organizations such as the Brotherhood of Steel could bolster or destroy the organizations, influencing people associated with them, much as in the previous two Fallout games.
One of the most significant elements of Fallout 3's plot and backstory was to be an ongoing war between the Brotherhood of Steel and the New California Republic.
The game's ultimate plotline was planned so that the events in the beginning of the game would have been part of a scheme by a rogue NCR scientist, Dr. Victor Presper, to seize control of a U.S. orbital nuclear weapons platform and use it to initiate a second nuclear holocaust, cleansing the world of all but his chosen few. In the end, it was so that the player could not stop all missiles from launching, and his or her decisions would ultimately have decided the future of the world."
And you have to remember that this build is from like, 2000 or so.
Yea, I know the build is old, but Bethesda could have easily have taken it whenever they got it, filled in the holds of it, and released and reaped some profits... something was obviously wrong with it that they decided to just toss it away.
Story seems to be ok, if not a little ambitious.
I just think that, for Bethesda to toss it the entire build out, there had to have been some problems or they felt that it wasn't worth their time finishing what was already done.
I have much much faith in them.
sblymnlcrymnl
05-01-2007, 01:51 PM
Fallout is one of the greatest games ever, but this looks too much like more of the same. Of course I'd have played it anyway.
Vegan
05-01-2007, 01:55 PM
That looks awesome. I wonder if there's a playable version leaked onto some of the shadier corners of the internet, or will be some day.
Xevious
05-01-2007, 02:13 PM
I never understood why Black Isle Studios folded. They were making one kick-ass game after another.
jer7583
05-01-2007, 09:24 PM
I never understood why Black Isle Studios folded. They were making one kick-ass game after another.
I believe the blame can be place nowhere else other than Interplay.
Those guys sure knew how to fuck up a good thing.
Reality's Fringe
05-02-2007, 10:57 PM
Demo, Bitches!!
jer7583
05-02-2007, 11:20 PM
wow, that's huge enough to make me wish I had a PC for a half hour or so.
Vegan
05-03-2007, 02:09 PM
Demo, Bitches!!
I totally called that!
SpecTrE3353
05-03-2007, 02:40 PM
This was posted in the PC Gaming forums as well:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135143
crystalklear64
05-03-2007, 02:49 PM
I haven't played either Fallout, but the graphics on this look like it could have been done with 3D looking sprites. Reminds me of the old Shadowrun (not the graphics, the gameplay)