David Jaffe vs Joystiq: Round 1 - FIGHT!

[CheapyD]

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/05/jaffe_slams_joy.html

In response to this on Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/01/jaffe-un-promises-calling-all-cars-delayed/)
Like a little girl struggling to keep her favorite doll out of the garage sale bin, David Jaffe is returning to the world of Calling All Cars to make some fixes and revise some of the criticisms the title received via reviews, even after announcing that the title has gone gold, according to a post he left on the NeoGAF forums.
Jaffe writes this (http://criminalcrackdown.blogspot.com/2007/05/thats-it-for-nowsee-you-soon.html):
Fuck you, guys. Go fuck yourselves. What other developer makes a fucking change to a game when a review (IGN's in this case) has a good, valid point and is willing to open the fucking code up at the risk of more bugs to make the game better? Amazing.But hey, you guys are great, you guys rock. I hope Kotaku fucking puts your ass out of business, wanna be fucktards. And if you were actual journalists you would have read the motherfucking quote I posted on NEOGAF where I said because of the two bugs we needed to fix (not because I was afraid of the bargin bin) we had a window of opp. to fix the magnet problem. Assholes...total fucking assholes.
I think Jaffe completely misread the article on Joystiq.
Ross Miller at Joystiq wrote, "Like a little girl struggling to keep her favorite doll out of the garage sale bin". I think the meaning is Jaffe is unwilling/not ready to let go of his game. I don't see this statement being overally critical of Jaffe. Also, Jaffe misinterpreted "garage sale bin" for "bargin bin" [sic].
I can understand him taking offense at being compared to a "little girl", but I don't think it necessitated a response with 8 f-bombs.

[javeryh]

Finally. It's about time someone in the video game industry started acting insane. We've got crazy rock stars and crazy movie stars so why not?

[daroga]

Somehow, it's even funnier with the Shaq-Fus. ;)

[wubb]

Meh, to me the Joystiq bit is unnecessarily busting his balls.

I'd say he went over the top with his response, but his passion is probably a reason he makes great games.

[terribledeli]

I'd say he went over the top with his response, but his passion is probably a reason he makes great games.

Or the reason he's a douche. Either one works.

[lordwow]

David Jaffe needs to not let Joystiq get to him. I mean, it's Joystiq.

[wubb]

Or the reason he's a douche. Either one works.

Not mutually exclusive.

[Chacrana]

I Made A Mini Game. I Am God.

[jer7583]

Cripes, it's a downloadable game, if there hadn't been this stink about a few minor issues I'm sure it'd be up and being downloaded rather frequently. Jaffe is bizonkers and has cemented his image as a wishy washy, oversensitive developer.

Tell me why the game couldn't have been released and then patched?

[Apossum]

props to him for going back to fix bugs after a review. I don't think I've heard of that happening pre-release.


but damn, what a temper :lol:

[evilmax17]

Dear Gaming Community,

WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Sincerely,
David Jaffe

[RedvsBlue]

Wow, what a douche bag. First the guy posts on his own blog whining about the Gamespot review now he's going on a tirade against Joystiq?

This guy is WAY too full of himself. So he made Twisted Metal and God of War, who the fuck cares? They were decent games but it doesn't give him free-reign to be such a whiny bitch.

[zewone]

What a little bitch.

[trq]

Wow, what a douche bag. First the guy posts on his own blog whining about the Gamespot review now he's going on a tirade against Joystiq?

This guy is WAY too full of himself. So he made Twisted Metal and God of War, who the fuck cares? They were decent games but it doesn't give him free-reign to be such a whiny bitch.

I was going to say the same thing. Jaffe vs. Gamespot, Jaffe vs. Joystiq ... I look forward to waking up to Jaffe vs. Those Guys on The Cheapassgamer Forums tomorrow.

[Apossum]

I was going to say the same thing. Jaffe vs. Gamespot, Jaffe vs. Joystiq ... I look forward to waking up to Jaffe vs. Those Guys on The Cheapassgamer Forums tomorrow.

:lol:

[PyroGamer]

I completely agree with Jaffe's post. Joystiq's comment was fucking retarted.

Sure, Gaffe kind of made himself look like an idiot there, but honestly, at least someone "high-profile" spoke out against the shit that is Joystiq.


Honestly, releasing a fucking patch for a downloadable game? That's a fucking crime now? Joystiq is a bunch of immature wanna-be journalist fucktards. Congrats to Jaffe for pointing it out.

The guy is FIXING CRITICAL ISSUES, stuff like NETWORKING AND VOICE-CHAT BUGS, stuff that is NECESSARY for a decent game, and Joystiq says he "can't let go of it". Jesus Fucking Christ! Bravo to Jaffe for releasing a game when it's fucking READY, not when fucktards like Joystiq think he should "let go of it".

[PyroGamer]

Wow, what a douche bag. First the guy posts on his own blog whining about the Gamespot review now he's going on a tirade against Joystiq?

This guy is WAY too full of himself. So he made Twisted Metal and God of War, who the fuck cares? They were decent games but it doesn't give him free-reign to be such a whiny bitch.
Wow. Having a blog is a crime now? Jesus fucking christ, a blog is supposed to be about your fucking opinions! I'm sure you've never critisized a review before, and at least when Jaffe did it he did it on his OWN BLOG. If you don't wanna fucking read it, don't go to his fucking blog.

The fact that Joystiq and the other gaming blogs made this news shows exactly how pathetic they are.

Jesus H. Christ.

[daroga]

I was going to say the same thing. Jaffe vs. Gamespot, Jaffe vs. Joystiq ... I look forward to waking up to Jaffe vs. Those Guys on The Cheapassgamer Forums tomorrow.Cheapy might one to reduce the file size of the shaqfu graphic or the site's gonna go down in flames.

We need to construct a bunker now. And someone with a raspy voice needs to be in charge of yelling "Throwing Frag!"

[RedvsBlue]

I completely agree with Jaffe's post. Joystiq's comment was fucking retarted.

Sure, Gaffe kind of made himself look like an idiot there, but honestly, at least someone "high-profile" spoke out against the shit that is Joystiq.


Honestly, releasing a fucking patch for a downloadable game? That's a fucking crime now? Joystiq is a bunch of immature wanna-be journalist fucktards. Congrats to Jaffe for pointing it out.

You know, there's just certain things you don't do as a public person. One of them is going on a tirade like this. The reason you don't do it, isn't because its impolite or any of that garbage, its because it makes you look like a fucking idiot.

Just think if Kojima had gone on this kind of rant after the reception of Metal Gear Solid 2 or Miyamoto after Super Mario Sunshine? Remember how ridiculous Uwe Boll has looked lately after people were trashing his movies and he was trying desperately to fight back (eventually it became literally fighting back...)? That's the road Jaffe's headed down if he keeps this shit up.

Furthermore, Joystiq was right to call him out on his shit. The game was supposed to be out on the 3rd and now its delayed an unspecified amount of time so he can fix shit. Shouldn't this have come up in the beta testing and not AFTER he had announced it had gone gold?

[Chacrana]

Wow. Having a blog is a crime now? Jesus fucking christ, a blog is supposed to be about your fucking opinions! I'm sure you've never critisized a review before, and at least when Jaffe did it he did it on his OWN BLOG. If you don't wanna fucking read it, don't go to his fucking blog.

The fact that Joystiq and the other gaming blogs made this news shows exactly how pathetic they are.

Jesus H. Christ.

Perhaps you've heard of professionalism?

[PyroGamer]

Here's the complete truth out of the horse's mouth:

One day I will learn my lesson: that people don't read the whole post, hell people don't tend to read the post at all, but rather a truncated version of the post posted on another website with just the part of the post that is inflamitory enough to get the haters in a tizzy and get hits on the site(s) in question.

Perhaps you've heard of professionalism?
I'd rather my games be developed by a down-to-earth guy than some self-important fucktard like the folks at Joystiq.


Just think if Kojima had gone on this kind of rant after the reception of Metal Gear Solid 2 or Miyamoto after Super Mario Sunshine? Remember how ridiculous Uwe Boll has looked lately after people were trashing his movies and he was trying desperately to fight back (eventually it became literally fighting back...)? That's the road Jaffe's headed down if he keeps this shit up.I completely agree. But what do you mean "this kind of rant"??? This isn't about reception to Calling All Cars, this is about a fucktard post by a bunch of fucktard wanna-be journalist assholes at Joystiq.

And he certainly didn't go on a "tirade" over GameSpot's 7.5, he simply posted his opinion IN HIS OWN BLOG. How about you read the fucking post! It's anything but a "tirade".

[botticus]

I sort of like how the Shaq-Fu image makes it easier to count all the f-bombs in any given rant. PyroGamer was just short with only 7 in his first post.

[PyroGamer]

I sort of like how the Shaq-Fu image makes it easier to count all the f-bombs in any given rant. PyroGamer was just short with only 7 in his first post.lol, I was actually going for the eight as a tribute to Jaffe. Didn't count them, though.

I'm sure if you read ANY of my posts you can tell I'm quite fond of the little graphic.

[Apossum]

Here's the complete truth out of the horse's mouth:




I'd rather my games be developed by a down-to-earth guy than some self-important fucktard like the folks at Joystiq.


I completely agree. But what do you mean "this kind of rant"??? This isn't about reception to Calling All Cars, this is about a fucktard post by a bunch of fucktard wanna-be journalist assholes at Joystiq.

And he certainly didn't go on a "tirade" over GameSpot's 7.5, he simply posted his opinion IN HIS OWN BLOG. How about you read the fucking post! It's anything but a "tirade".



I thought it was a 6.7.

and Joystiq was just reporting that the game was going to be delayed again to have some stuff fixed, Jaffe flipped out about this because he doesn't know how to read.

[dallow]

Tell me why the game couldn't have been released and then patched?

Yeah, that's what we need more of.

[dallow]

I like that he's a down to earth gamer with over the top passion about certain things just like the rest of us.

We don't need all developers to be like this, but it's nice to see some that are somewhat closer to the gaming community.
He likes the F word. Big deal.

[abhinav]

I think jaffe is kind of out of line here. Sure what joystiq said was pretty stupid but the guy went kinda nuts and joystiq is allowed to have it's say just as he is.

[jer7583]

Yeah, that's what we need more of.

I'd take a patch over a delay anyday. The bugs were rather minor, and you'd be able to enjoy the game just as well for the next two weeks that these bugs are going to be fixed and integrated, except a good 20% of the people who were interested and ready to buy this week are going to lose interest, because thats how gaming works, it depends so heavily on that first week of release hype.

I see it as a loss both for fans and Jaffe.

I think Jaffe was just sour grapes over not getting 8s across the board, so he decided to "show them" by going back and retooling in an effort to make gamespot change their score. Who knows, maybe this bug fix will turn into a full blown "lets add more content" and we'll see it by september.. ugh.

[PyroGamer]

joystiq is allowed to have it's say just as he is.
But Jaffe isn't allowed to have his say in the comments box of Joystiq's post???

[jrutz]

I think both sides have the right to say what they did, but only Jaffe was the one who looked like an ass doing so. He might have carte blanche now because of his successes with Twisted Metal and God of War, but I'm sure looking like a prima donna to the public isn't something that's going to sit well with Sony.

[ryanbph]

jaffe is allowed to have say, it is just what he wrote that most people appear to have the problem with...Me personally, I with javerhy, I like having a crazy mother fucker in the game industry..

[dallow]

I think Jaffe was just sour grapes over not getting 8s across the board, so he decided to "show them" by going back and retooling in an effort to make gamespot change their score.

I think the majority of people here will take slight delays over patches. Especially since they had to do with the multiplayer aspect of the game.


Who knows, maybe this bug fix will turn into a full blown "lets add more content" and we'll see it by september.. ugh.

But you don't even have, nor want to own a PS3... ???

[RedvsBlue]

I completely agree. But what do you mean "this kind of rant"??? This isn't about reception to Calling All Cars, this is about a fucktard post by a bunch of fucktard wanna-be journalist assholes at Joystiq.

And he certainly didn't go on a "tirade" over GameSpot's 7.5, he simply posted his opinion IN HIS OWN BLOG. How about you read the fucking post! It's anything but a "tirade".

With both incidents coming within a couple days of each other, despite being somewhat seperate incidents, are going to look like they are indications of a man who's just plain pissed off at anyone and everyone who criticizes him in any way possible.

They called him out for being a whiny bitch about delaying the game so its "perfect" and they were justified in doing so. Then he escalated his reaction to one of his critics. The first response to his critics was a post in a blog, the second was a tirade, what will the 3rd one be? A challenge to a boxing match?

[Apossum]

I'd take a patch over a delay anyday. The bugs were rather minor, and you'd be able to enjoy the game just as well for the next two weeks that these bugs are going to be fixed and integrated, except a good 20% of the people who were interested and ready to buy this week are going to lose interest, because thats how gaming works, it depends so heavily on that first week of release hype.

I see it as a loss both for fans and Jaffe.

I think Jaffe was just sour grapes over not getting 8s across the board, so he decided to "show them" by going back and retooling in an effort to make gamespot change their score. Who knows, maybe this bug fix will turn into a full blown "lets add more content" and we'll see it by september.. ugh.


The bugs weren't minor-- it made so that the AI was perfect with the magnet move, which apparently is kind of a big deal. he was a cock in his responses and I think he's full of himself, but he does seem to give a shit. It's rare that games get this kind of treatment.

patches are crap. The fact that devs can now rush out games and patch them later is probably the least welcome development of this gen. I'm really looking forward to updating my games for an hour tonight when I unpack my 360. :roll:

When they're used to update a game, like for balancing and other issues, that's okay. but bugs should not be in there. and if a dev gets a game out first, it takes them even longer to get a patch out because they already have your money. iirc, a number of 360 games that needed patches had to wait a long time after release before they got them.

but anyway why do you give two shits? you openly hate the ps3 and seem to love reminding people that you'll never buy one :lol:

[dragonreborn23]

Or the reason he's a douche. Either one works.

Ha! Exactly. When did this guy become the unquestionable greatest game developer of all time, then??

[Apossum]

Ha! Exactly. When did this guy become the unquestionable greatest game developer of all time, then??



God of War!! It had boobs!!! :-P

[RedvsBlue]

Ha! Exactly. When did this guy become the unquestionable greatest game developer of all time, then??

God of War

Apparently he did ALL the work on the thing.

[SL4IN]

David Jaffe needs to not let Joystiq get to him. I mean, it's Joystiq.

joystiq IS run by AOL, which kinda makes them lose their credibility, but then again, david jaffe isn't that much better either.

[willardhaven]

God of what?

Who is this guy again?

[jollydwarf]

Is Jaffe drunk again?

http://a.abclocal.go.com/images/wpvi/cms_exf_2005/news/amusement/entertainment/030907-eddie-van-halen-152.jpg http://upload.moldova.org/muzica/2007/feb/britney%20shaved.jpg

"Dave, you might wanna think about rehab...take it from us!"

[mykevermin]

It's a catch-22 for developers. If they ignore pressing bugs, glitches, and other indications of an "incomplete" game, they're lazy assholes. Now, apparently, if they try to work to fix them, they're "little girls."

I don't know much about Calling All Cars (except that it isn't God of War), but I don't quite understand why anyone would criticize someone willing to go out of their way to fix a game. I can understand why Jaffe was upset, and don't see any issues with the way he went about making his aggression known. It only hurts Jaffe because his rant more or less proves Joystiq's point correct.

But I still can't figure out why anyone would criticize a developer for revisiting a game to fix it, *especially* when it is done as a labor of love, and not a Kojima-tastic double dip title. Maybe the old Acclaim would be in business if they released games that could be fucking played.

[wubb]

Ha! Exactly. When did this guy become the unquestionable greatest game developer of all time, then??

Who's saying that?

[jer7583]

Wow, guys. Way to generalize about me as a PS3 hater..

I don't have one, but then I don't have a 80Gig iPod or an HDTV either. They're both issues of money.

That said, Calling All Cars did become more and more interesting to me, especially hearing the description on the 1up show as an NBA Jam style game with some good back and forth multiplayer balance. This and Warhawk would probably be my two most anticipated games on PS3 if not for the $600 price and that I'm perfectly happy with (and barely able to keep up with software for) my 360 for the time being.

I don't see how getting to play the game earlier while a patch is worked on is a bad thing. It's already a downloadable title, so nobody who buys it has an excuse to be excluded from the update. Jaffe is being far too sensitive here. A simple "Gamespot has their opinion, but" or "Joystiq's comments were childish and here's why it's being delayed for your benefit" would have sufficed. However, Jaffe had to go his typical route of making absurd statements that get him discussed and get CaC attention on the internet. Do you think any of this is accidental? Nothing isn't advertising, nothing that these guys say isn't planned. Welcome to viral marketing.

And for the record, Jaffe has a long way to go before he's anywhere near important or credible in the industry. All he's really contributed is an ultra-violent devil may cry ripoff (plus added repetition of moves) with QTEs and Titties. Just my opinion, but he's far overrated.

[Apossum]

I don't see how getting to play the game earlier while a patch is worked on is a bad thing. It's already a downloadable title, so nobody who buys it has an excuse to be excluded from the update. Jaffe is being far too sensitive here.


because in a lot of cases, you have to wait forever for the patch and lose interest in the game in the meantime.

[DesertEagleXIX]

Fuck Fucking Jaffe, he's the bigest fucking idiot. He has to fucking swear to get his fucking point across all the fucking time. What a fucking idiot; killing the english fucking language, the clusterfuck.

[jollydwarf]

Actually, God of War reminded me more of Ninja Gaiden than Devil May Cry, but that's neither here nor there.

I maintain that the guy is either close to having a breakdown, or is trying to get Sony to let him go. (Is he bound by a contract?) His remarks have certainly been more than a little 'unhinged' recently (and more frequent than I can ever remember).

Also, I, too am wondering if when I get a PS3 I'll even have time for it. Having the other two 'new' consoles, a PS2, an Xbox, both handhelds and a PC, all with a massive backlog of titles (including PS2 RPGs and Oblivion...there's a calendar year right there!), I just don't know how I'll even be able to address yet another system. I really don't know (and don't want to know) how some of you do it.

[jer7583]

because in a lot of cases, you have to wait forever for the patch and lose interest in the game in the meantime.

Not like plenty haven't already lost interest with the repeated release dates and delays. And that's where Jaffe's asinine comments come in, to keep interest. It's no coincidence that these statements came out so closely following the delay. It's all a bid for attention in the media.

[mykevermin]

Not like plenty haven't already lost interest with the repeated release dates and delays. And that's where Jaffe's asinine comments come in, to keep interest. It's no coincidence that these statements came out so closely following the delay. It's all a bid for attention in the media.

That's a valid point; if it's done anything, it's generated more publicity for a title that, by its name alone, seems to command about as much hype as "Totemball."

Indeed, there must be no such thing as bad publicity.

[Serpentor]

Could it be that the guy was really pissed at the moment and wrote things he probably regret now? We all do this... say things we don't really meant to say and regret later? Of course, the "pride" in us won't take things back, but the "greater man/woman" in us says otherwise...

This is why you should save things like that in a draft... when you cool down, read it again...

I won't call the guy a genius, but i have to give him credit for God of War (oh, the boobs :)). Hell, i don't even know him until i finished GoW and browsing the unlocked extras. The guys does put alot of passion into his games and i admire that very much.

Like many of you said, the F words just make him look bad. As to the question patch vs. later release, it's always better to release the fixed version than patch (i'm a programmer, i know...) Companies release patches b/c the deadline can't be extended (contract) or the patches are very minor. Most of the times, QA (quality assurance) don't really catch everything in a program (depends how smart the robot program is). Of course, if you have bright people on the QA team, things will be different...

[evilmax17]

Joystiq didn't make their comment because the game was delayed, they made the comment because the game was delayed AFTER Jaffe went on a complaining spree about a negative review. This in turn makes it look as if Jaffe is delaying the game in order to boost review scores.

If Jaffe wasn't a vocal prick last week, rest assured he wouldn't have been lambasted this week.

[SL4IN]

personally, david jaffe's comment was uncalled for. If he has to use vulgarity to get the effect of his point across, then he shouldn't even be commenting on it at all.

[H.Cornerstone]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3159144


He's resigned from blog posting for now.

I think he is fine to post what he wants, it's his opinion, if you don't like him, don't read his posts.

[Halo05]

Or the reason he's a douche. Either one works.

He can be a douche all he wants as long as he keeps making great games. It's not like he lives in my neighborhood and races up and down the street all hours of the night.

Although if he did that in someone's neighborhood, they'd have a legitimate complaint.

[wubb]

He can be a douche all he wants as long as he keeps making great games. It's not like he lives in my neighborhood and races up and down the street all hours of the night.

Although if he did that in someone's neighborhood, they'd have a legitimate complaint.

For some reason that last sentence had me roflcoptering. :applause:

[Radioactive_Man]

What he needs to worry about is making a non button mashing action game.

fukin douche bag

[rodeojones903]

I'm with Jaffe on this one.

[spoo]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3159144


He's resigned from blog posting for now.

Good he should have learned his lesson a few days ago after making an ass of himself crying about the Gamespot review. Then todays entry it showed his true side....

'GO fuck YOUR MOTHER UP HER JIGGLY ASS TWAT'

Whoa, calling some gamers this would be way over crossing the line. This makes me sick, i'm I supposed to buy a game he makes after a stunt like that? He makes some great games but I am sure to pass up his next game. Sony should fire the man on that comment alone.

[trq]

God of War

Apparently he did ALL the work on the thing.

I hear they mo-capped him for Kratos. Especially the threesome part. He's such a rebel. God bless you and your non-conformist ways, David Jaffe! I bet CliffyB will have to snort some coke off a dead baby just to top him now.

[galvatron2k1]

fuck a patch. I have to agree with that. Not that it has happened to me, but I cringe when I read the 360 and PS3 update threads when people are stating that some update or patch bricked their console or screwed up their game saves. Make the game right the first time so we don't have to worry about it later.

Having said that, I can't see why Jaffe gives a shit about Joystiq calling him a girl. Fix it and move on, who cares what some ass at Joystiq says?

[Ikohn4ever]

joystiq was out of line, they def busted his chops unnecessarily. Jaffe's response was childish, but Joystiq def does not have the higher ground in this argument. They have to decide whether they are a news site or a bunch of gamers posting PR releases as news. They take themselves way too seriously.

Also lets not forget their megaton Wii fiasco and how they fired one guy to take the blame for their hype machine.

[Apossum]

Not like plenty haven't already lost interest with the repeated release dates and delays. And that's where Jaffe's asinine comments come in, to keep interest. It's no coincidence that these statements came out so closely following the delay. It's all a bid for attention in the media.


What else is there coming out for the system? it's the only game worth buying in the month of May. :lol:

maybe the Ninja Gaiden demo overshadowed it, but I don't see anyone saying "it's delayed, I'm not buying it any more."

[dallow]

Yeah, I severly doubt they're hurting sales of this $8-$10 game by delaying it to fix a couple things.

[Hoffgod]

And now Joystiq responds (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/02/jaffe-swears-off-blogging-was-it-something-we-said/).

I gotta say, I side with Joystiq on this one. I don't know if Jaffe just didn't read their whole post or failed at comprehending half of it, but he blew it on this one.
And after the disjointed and ultimately meaningless stream-of-consciousness meanderings he posted in response to the GameSpot review, I have to say, I have very little respect left for the guy.
Quittting blogging is probably the best thing for him right now. He needs to get his shit in order.

[SL4IN]

And now Joystiq responds (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/02/jaffe-swears-off-blogging-was-it-something-we-said/).

I gotta say, I side with Joystiq on this one. I don't know if Jaffe just didn't read their whole post or failed at comprehending half of it, but he blew it on this one.
And after the disjointed and ultimately meaningless stream-of-consciousness meanderings he posted in response to the GameSpot review, I have to say, I have very little respect left for the guy.
Quittting blogging is probably the best thing for him right now. He needs to get his shit in order.

well I applaud joystiq for not coming back with all the cussing and what not and are trying to help the situation and fix it.

[yukine]

David Jaffe is slowly but surely turning into a Jack Thompson among video game developers, at least as far as sheer absurdity goes.

[CheapyD]

Haha...joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/02/jaffe-swears-off-blogging-was-it-something-we-said/)linked to this thread because of the Shaq-fus!

[Rozz]

Wow, what an unprofessional response. He must have high blood pressure, but damn, that was totally unnecessary on Jaffe's part. I mean, I know how it feels to work hard on something only to seem like someone made a dumbass smart remark but... who really gives a shit about what some random site has to say? Geez.

[Rozz]

I thought it was a 6.7.

and Joystiq was just reporting that the game was going to be delayed again to have some stuff fixed, Jaffe flipped out about this because he doesn't know how to read.

For some reason this post reminded me of RegalSin, who would read a post and then type up a nonsense response that would go nowhere. I dont know why, but it just did ;)

[pimpinc333]

Fuck Joystiq and Fuck Jaffe. I have no idea who the fuck both of these fucks are. :)

[Apossum]

For some reason this post reminded me of RegalSin, who would read a post and then type up a nonsense response that would go nowhere. I dont know why, but it just did ;)


pyrogamer was saying joystiq was at fault and that jaffe was "down to earth." I was telling him that was not the case and he said the game got a 7....screw this


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[VanillaGorilla]

Since when are gamers supposed to give a crap about what one blogging nerd, and one overrated, wannabe-rockstar developer are fighting about? Honestly, why is this already 4 pages? I liked it better when developers weren't seen or heard, and all these bloggers, who are desperate for attention, kept their opinions confined to their basements and the counter of EB Games, clogging up the lines because they think the clerk want's to talk about how awesome KOTOR is.

[daphatty]

I'm glad someone finally did this. The big three (as Cheapy calls them) are a waste of bandwidth IMO. None of these sites are the least bit professional when it comes to reporting gaming news. They abuse the "casual" writing style that blogs afford, so much so that Jaffe's reaction shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone. It was only a matter of time.

I am sick and tired of the "Big Three's" pre-pubescent, Caca-Poopoo columns and editorials. Frankly, if Kotaku, Destructoid, and Joystiq were lost at sea, it's safe to say that they wouldn't be missed. At least, not by me anyway.

[abhinav]

Meh i love kotaku and joystiq and i honestly think this is just blown out or proportion.

[CoffeeEdge]

David Jaffe is a fucking idiot who makes shitty games.

Edit:
Also, both Kotaku and Joystiq (but ESPECIALLY Kotaku) suck dongs. Hard. And that's a bad thing.

[mykevermin]

I'm glad someone finally did this. The big three (as Cheapy calls them) are a waste of bandwidth IMO. None of these sites are the least bit professional when it comes to reporting gaming news. They abuse the "casual" writing style that blogs afford, so much so that Jaffe's reaction shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone. It was only a matter of time.

I am sick and tired of the "Big Three's" pre-pubescent, Caca-Poopoo columns and editorials. Frankly, if Kotaku, Destructoid, and Joystiq were lost at sea, it's safe to say that they wouldn't be missed. At least, not by me anyway.

I love that you made valid, mature, and real criticisms of those websites at the same time you used the phrase "caca-poopoo."

:applause:

[Roufuss]

Since when are gamers supposed to give a crap about what one blogging nerd, and one overrated, wannabe-rockstar developer are fighting about? Honestly, why is this already 4 pages? I liked it better when developers weren't seen or heard, and all these bloggers, who are desperate for attention, kept their opinions confined to their basements and the counter of EB Games, clogging up the lines because they think the clerk want's to talk about how awesome KOTOR is.

:rofl:

I don't get why these bloggers feel they are so important, or why the gaming community at large has elevated a bunch of nobodies to a position where their opinions actually count for something. Maybe I missed something, because I can see why IGN and Gamespot are important, but I don't quite see what Joystiq and Kotaku actually do that makes what they have to say worth something and relevant.

The only time I hear about them is when it's something negative, when they let their mouth run too much and cause shit with the game companies they are blogging about. I've never heard Kotaku or Joystiq breaking a big story or having an exclusive, well, anything, it's just about how they've pissed off another company or said something incredibly stupid.

[MadFlava]

are we sure that this is actually Jaffe responding or maybe someone using his name to make him look like a fool.

[CoffeeEdge]

are we sure that this is actually Jaffe responding or maybe someone using his name to make him look like a fool.
It's on his blog.


Edit:
Oh yeah, I forgot. Destructoid is the shittiest of all, even worse than Kotaku.

[spoo]

It's on his blog.


Edit:
Oh yeah, I forgot. Destructoid is the shittiest of all, even worse than Kotaku.

No wonder Robert Summa was fired for Joystiq, this is even worse then Jaffe's blog post. (http://www.destructoid.com/david-jaffe-aol-joystiq-are-total-fucking-assholes-update--31297.phtml)

I've professed my adoration and respect for David Jaffe many, many times. He's honest, outspoken, and usually dead on when it comes to his opinions on the gaming industry -- something he and Destructoid share in common. Such is the case with his latest rant that hits really close to home for a few of us that have been burned by the dickery caused by AOL Joystiq. Excuse me Trey Parker and Matt Stone, but you guys said this best:

See, there's three kinds of people: dicks, pussies, and assholes. Pussies (other video game sites) think everyone can get along, and dicks (Dtoid and Jaffe) just want to fuck all the time without thinking it through. But then you got your assholes (AOL Joystiq), Chuck. And all the assholes want us to shit all over everything! So, pussies may get mad at dicks once in a while, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes, Chuck. And if they didn't fuck the assholes, you know what you'd get? You'd get your dick and your pussy all covered in shit!

Now that I have you in the right frame of mind, take a look at Jaffe's wrath that was unleashed on the worst gaming site on the Internet in response to an unfair and unintelligent post by AOL Joystiq:

[StillFree]

No wonder Robert Summa was fired for Joystiq, this is even worse then Jaffe's blog post. (http://www.destructoid.com/david-jaffe-aol-joystiq-are-total-fucking-assholes-update--31297.phtml)

Destructoid should take Jaffe's cock out of their mouths and share it with the legions of nerds that think he is the second coming of christ for making God of War. :roll: :roll: :roll: As far as the Joystiq / Jaffe slap fight goes, I :applause: Joystiq for being the "Bigger Man" with their response. Jaffe needs to grow up a little, if not that grow some thicker skin.

[AshesofWake]

so cliche but: the internets is serious business

[KaneRobot]

Great, now the developers are acting like the people on message boards. What an insecure little bitch.

Oh, and fuck Robert Summa. How do you expect to get an unbiased opinion on Joystiq out of him? He got shitcanned because he abused his position. If he still worked for Joystiq he'd be sucking their ass right now.

[jer7583]

hey at least kotaku is staying out of this, can't disrespect them because of this.