View Full Version : The "I haven't bought a Wii yet" Poll
daphatty
05-02-2007, 11:01 PM
Of those of you that have yet to buy a Wii, how many still plan on getting one?
As for myself, the past few CAGCast's have left me questioning whether or not I still want a Wii. Aside from the fact that it's extremely difficult to even find a Wii @ retail outlets, hearing Cheapy and Wombat say that they haven't used their Wii's due to lack of good games makes me even more weary. Am I the only one with this conundrum? Is it possible that Nintendo has convinced me to not buy the Wii?
lonestar
05-02-2007, 11:07 PM
I may buy one eventually in a few years, but at this time, I have no interest in the Wii.
daroga
05-02-2007, 11:11 PM
Like the PS3, right now it's mostly in the what's coming rather than the what's out. The VC is on fire, and Zelda, Sonic, and Super Paper Mario are fantastic, but I'd see no problem with waiting for some bigger titles to hit down the line.
Apossum
05-02-2007, 11:14 PM
no option for "bought one, played zelda, sold it"
Halo05
05-02-2007, 11:16 PM
1. There's nothing coming out for it that I want.
2. I still have a vast majority of my old games or ports of them (Final Fantasy Anthology on the PSX for example).
3. I have a massive backlog of other games. This backlog, as of a couple days ago has started to include 360 games. I couldn't possibly justify another system at this point in time.
Mattte
05-02-2007, 11:28 PM
I bought one just because it was there and I had the money...probably would've sold it but I'd end up getting one before 2007 is over so I just kept it, plus it probably would've been a pain to try and transfer my info over to the new system.
...and I completly ignored the topic and posted anyway...
YoshiFan1
05-02-2007, 11:34 PM
I'll get the system once it is less money. I don't think it's worth $249.99
torifile
05-02-2007, 11:36 PM
How about an option for: bought 4 sold 3? :lol: And they weren't profit making deals (I didn't lose money, either) just indecisiveness on my part. My wife really likes it so we're keeping this one. :)
whoknows
05-02-2007, 11:36 PM
I honestly have very little interest in the Wii. When I played Sonic for the first time on it I was instantly turned off my the controls.
Maybe I'll get one when Smash Bros comes out if you can use a normal controller for it.
Otherwise, probably in a few years when I can get one for maybe $50.
bobo2k4
05-02-2007, 11:41 PM
I'm plan on getting one soon but now I'm deciding between a Wii or a PS3.
Graystone
05-02-2007, 11:42 PM
I voted I want one, but I'm still on the fence. I have a good friend that owns one, and doesn't really play it. He has the money, and ability to go buy games for it. But nothing seems appealing . As for me I really only want to play 5 or 6 games.
Moving the controller around has lost its appeal I just want to play good games now.
Roufuss
05-02-2007, 11:43 PM
Of those of you that have yet to buy a Wii, how many still plan on getting one?
As for myself, the past few CAGCast's have left me questioning whether or not I still want a Wii. Aside from the fact that it's extremely difficult to even find a Wii @ retail outlets, hearing Cheapy and Wombat say that they haven't used their Wii's due to lack of good games makes me even more weary. Am I the only one with this conundrum? Is it possible that Nintendo has convinced me to not buy the Wii?
Lack of good games? I enjoyed Zelda, Wii Sports, and Trauma Center, and I'm having a blast with Godfather right now... on deck I have Super Paper Mario.
I've also got SSX Blur, Sonic and the Secret Rings, and Wii Play waiting to be played. Wii Play will mostly be a multiplayer game with my girlfriend, but that works fine.
The Virtual Console keeps me hooked to the console as well.
The Wii has been out about six months, and it has a good assortment of games out for it, imo. It's not just more of the same like anything else out there (well, I guess excluding the DS). It gives me an experience I really can't find anywhere else.
Everyone will be singing a different tune by the end of the year if Nintendo can push its big names out, like Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, Smash Brothers, Strikers Charged (with online play!), and more stuff I can't think of.
Nintendo consoles are known for getting off to a VERY slow start... everyone seems to forget the DS took almost a year to take off and now good games drop like crazy for it. Let's take a look at this thread in another six months.
One could easily say the same about the PS3, that there aren't enough good games for it, but the same thing applies, the system is only six months old, how many games do you really expect would be out for it? Didn't the 360 also have a pretty lackluster start? If we all based our judgments on the first six months of a system, well, I know I sure as hell wouldn't own a DS, would never have bought a 360, and probably written off the PS3. Systems need at least a year to really take off.
This thread is just going to erupt into retardedness when certain very vocal anti Wii people show up to let us all know why we are stupid for buying a Wii and to try and convince everyone in this thread to never own one.
I think Nintendo is doing an awesome job pumping out its big names... Gamecube was nowhere near having all of its major franchises up by the end of year 1, IIRC.
KingDox
05-02-2007, 11:58 PM
In before the Flame war
I too rarely play my Wii. But the time I bring it to work as a party box makes it worth every penny.
dragonreborn23
05-03-2007, 12:10 AM
After playing quite a few 360 games, it's hard to go back to a Super Paper Mario or Zelda for any length of time. After awhle it feels like I'm playing my Cube, but I get to move my hands a bit. I'll still probably get it to play the Nintendo games but not until it is as cheap as the Gamecube.
I was planning to buy a Wii at launch, but since then, I've picked up a Gamecube for about $50 (to replace the one I traded in in anticipation for the Wii) so I don't really need or want a Wii as much anymore. The two launch titles I wanted (Twilight Princess and Trauma Center) I already own for the GCN and DS, respectively. At this point, I'll probably pick one up when two games that I personally classify as "system sellers" are released (SSBB, RE4, SMG, Mario Tennis, and FE:GD among others).
On a somewhat unrelated note, my waning desire for a Wii has turned into a growing desire for a 360. Just waiting for the 65nm chips before I pick one up.
H.Cornerstone
05-03-2007, 04:16 AM
Wheres the "I am buying a Wii once Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Bros comes out?" option?
I don't use mine as much as I should, but the slow release of games isn't surprising.
Honestly, why do people wait to get a console later in its life if it is still the same price? I've never understood why some people wait to get the console 6-12 months after release if they are still paying the same price as I did on day one.
If you are waiting for a pricedrop, then I see why you are waiting. But those of you waiting for Smash/Galaxy/etc. might as well pick one up when you see one. There won't be a drop in price before those games are out, and you could be enjoying it much longer.
whoknows
05-03-2007, 04:24 AM
I don't use mine as much as I should, but the slow release of games isn't surprising.
Honestly, why do people wait to get a console later in its life if it is still the same price? I've never understood why some people wait to get the console 6-12 months after release if they are still paying the same price as I did on day one.
If you are waiting for a pricedrop, then I see why you are waiting. But those of you waiting for Smash/Galaxy/etc. might as well pick one up when you see one. There won't be a drop in price before those games are out, and you could be enjoying it much longer.
Because instead of using that money for a wii that will collect dust the person could use the money on something else (possibly something more important) and use money later for a Wii when the person will actually use it?
SL4IN
05-03-2007, 04:31 AM
I'll get one when I can walk into a store and say "hey guy, can you get me a wii out of one of the display cases?"
until that day, I can wait.
Because instead of using that money for a wii that will collect dust the person could use the money on something else (possibly something more important) and use money later for a Wii when the person will actually use it?
I can understand a wait if the money would go to something more important, but I still don't think waiting makes much sense.
My roommate recently bought a 360. (Before the Elite.) He waited because he "wanted good games." Now, after a month or so of GoW, he is playing Oblivion and other games that have been out for a long time now. Game he could've been playing and enjoying long before now. I see/hear that similar story quite often.
I really don't believe anyone when they say there's not a single game on any console out now that they wouldn't want to play. If there's somebody who can't find at least one worthwhile game on Wii/360/PS3, then they must have one crazy taste in games.
PyroGamer
05-03-2007, 09:27 AM
How about "I finally got a Wii", "I already bought a Wii" and "I've never wanted a Wii" options in that poll?
I can understand a wait if the money would go to something more important, but I still don't think waiting makes much sense.
I reasoned the exact same way. But then again, it's not really the same thing. The Wii does have some fun stuff, but it's not the same as what the 360 had at launch. The 360 had some amazing launch titles, and kept following them up with fantastic stuff. The Wii, on the other hand, just isn't AS worth having right now. Though Roufuss makes a compelling post.
PyroGamer
05-03-2007, 09:42 AM
Didn't the 360 also have a pretty lackluster start?
GRAW
Kameo
Call of Duty 2
Perfect Dark Zero
Burnout Revenge
PGR3
NFS:MW
Condemned
Tomb Raider: Legend
Dead or Alive 4
Top Spin 2
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
KaneRobot
05-03-2007, 09:44 AM
Maybe the 360 spoiled me since there were so many good games out in the first 6 months, but outside of the initial "oh, this is kind of cool" reaction, the Wii has been nothing but a disappointment to me so far. I actually loaned it to a friend two days ago, which is something I never do with consoles. I'm usually not motivated enough to go through the hassle of Ebay, but I have a feeling I'll be selling it one way or another.
GRAW
Kameo
Call of Duty 2
Perfect Dark Zero
Burnout Revenge
PGR3
NFS:MW
Condemned
Tomb Raider: Legend
Dead or Alive 4
Top Spin 2
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
+Fight Night 3
I don't think Tomb Raider or Top Spin were really launch/launch era games (correct me if I'm wrong), but the rest were all within the first 5 months of the console's life. I don't know if I'd include PDZ, Condemned, or NFS:MW in a "showoff" list, those are kind of the Trauma Centers of the 360 launch...they can be fun but they're not necessarily worth your $50. That's still 8 games though, which is about two times as many as the Wii has 6 months in.
CocheseUGA
05-03-2007, 10:01 AM
I'll get one when I sell my previous N consoles. Money is the factor.
Jury's still out. Not enough games for me to buy just for myself, although some friends + Wii Sports (+ the games it does have) might be enough for an impulse buy at some point if they become readily available. Now I wouldn't expect a system to have enough games for me to take the plunge until it's been out for at least a year so no real surprise there. I like to sit back and see which console is going to have the 3rd party support. If the Wii keeps selling like crazy it will obviously be there.
Right now there are only a handful of games I'd really want and one I can get for the GC (Zelda) and another is really short (Warioware.) Just not enough meat there yet.
Roufuss
05-03-2007, 11:33 AM
GRAW
Kameo
Call of Duty 2
Perfect Dark Zero
Burnout Revenge
PGR3
NFS:MW
Condemned
Tomb Raider: Legend
Dead or Alive 4
Top Spin 2
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
One can also that all of those games, barring 2, are refinements upon refinements of currently existing series, so yea, those developers had a lot of time to get things right.
One can argue that it didn't take a lot to utilize the 360 to just make the graphics look better, but on the Wii, the developers have the added challenge of customizing the controls to suit the Wii as well. It was a lot easier to port a good half of those games to the 360 without a lot of trouble, just clean the graphics up. Everything else can say the same (like controls).
If the Wii was just a super Gamecube, without the motion sensing and a regular controller, we would have seen plenty of straight up ports of decent games hit it as well. But because most developers can't just straight up port something, it takes longer to get a game to the Wii if they want to do it at all due to the controls.
I really liken the Wii to the DS... developers had no idea what to do with the DS that first year either, and I know I barely used mine because most games were gimmicky and developers had no clue how to utilize the system. But once a year or so went by, developers figured out how to use it, and now the DS has tons of quality software.
With the Wii, developers are catching on far quicker, but there is still going to be a much larger grace period that developers need to use to find out what works and what doesn't - the Wii is unlike anything any of us have seen before.
The Wii is doing a lot better than I thought it would by now, we're actually seeing some quality games come out. I think if Nintendo can stay on track with all of its big names, and some third parties like Capcom deliver on their games, the rest of the year is going to be very good indeed.
But like I said, it just needs time, these days I'd give all new systems about a year to really start picking up steam. It even took the 360 about a year to go from having a good library to one that many people call amazing, because we got games that take advantage of the 360.
While that launch list had some good games graphically, you can't tell me that any of them are as good as the things we see now, like Blue Dragon or Gears of War, after the developers have had time to learn the system... same thing with the Wii.
daroga
05-03-2007, 11:54 AM
I'm very confused why I hear how the Wii is just the next Gamecube, that theres no good games on it, that the pace is too slow, etc. And yet there's very little complaint about the PS3's trickle of games, or the 360's for that matter.
You don't get 4 AAA games a month for any system (well, maybe except the DS). The PS2 didn't get its massive library in one day. Since launch, 2 games have made waves for the PS3 market since its launch from my perception, Motostorm and the upcoming Ninja Gaiden: Sigma. I've got stuff to play on the 360 cause I only recently got one, but nothing really has me pumped on their release list till Halo 3 now. Nothing on that 360 eraly release list can even touch Zelda, Super Paper Mario, or Wii Sports (from my tastes, obviously). I think the Wii's first 6 months has blown away the 360's and the PS3's personally.
Quality games come out slowly, especially this time of year, and especially months after a system's release. I do, however, understand waiting. Buying a system because X game is going to be great is not a real great idea. Even a series that you love or concept that sounds great on paper may not work well in real life. If I had bought a Wii for just Elebits, or a 360 for Dead Rising and Gears of War (all examples of games that "sold" the system to me in concept) I'd have been sorely disappointed. Waiting until there are games out that you know you will enjoy is not such a stupid move.
Kayden
05-03-2007, 12:37 PM
I wiilly never had much interest in the Wii. The Gamecube was kinda a let down for me too. I had a lot of fun with it, but there were only a handful of titles that I really enjoyed. I may get a Wii when they get cheaper and have more good games I have interest in, but I think that'll be a while away. I'm more likely to pay $600 for a PS3. Historically, the Playstation brand has always had more games I like. I love my 360, but that has a lot to do with the ability to play media off my PC.
dallow
05-03-2007, 12:47 PM
Sorry Roufoss, I don't agree that Wii has that many games worth playing right now.
Zelda, definitely. (though it's really a GC game)
Trauma Center is very fun. (copy of DS game)
Super Paper Mario (that's what I'm talking about)
Everything else? Blah.
Sports is boring, and SSX Blur was a disapointment compared to the previous games.
VC? You have to be kidding.
I'm giving the system more time though. I don't plan to ever sell it.
I do like it, it sits pretty in my room.
daroga
05-03-2007, 12:55 PM
Sports is boring,Well I tend to agree a bit from a single-player point of view, I've never had anything but a riotly good time with Wii Sports and a friend or 3.
y2jedi
05-03-2007, 01:02 PM
No option for Holiday 2007 ? My kids wanted one last Christmas, I was foolish enough to think I'd be able to find one no problem.
So, without a doubt that will be the BIG gift this year.
moonknight25
05-03-2007, 01:06 PM
As soon as Metroid Prime 3 comes out, I'm buying one instantly, but prob not before
I don't use mine as much as I should, but the slow release of games isn't surprising.
Honestly, why do people wait to get a console later in its life if it is still the same price? I've never understood why some people wait to get the console 6-12 months after release if they are still paying the same price as I did on day one.
If you are waiting for a pricedrop, then I see why you are waiting. But those of you waiting for Smash/Galaxy/etc. might as well pick one up when you see one. There won't be a drop in price before those games are out, and you could be enjoying it much longer.
My reason for waiting is that I don't need a Wii nor a 360 right now. While both would be nice to have, they would be about as useful as paperweights for a while, as I'm still working through games that I passed over during the lifecycle of the PS2, GCN, and the PC (not to mention the two handhelds). Regardless of whether it costs me the same now as it would in a few months, I don't need to spend hundreds on something that would be nice to have, but I'm not really going to use it anytime soon.
Besides, even if the consoles don't get cheaper, the games certainly do (you could argue that 'Game A' won't be any cheaper, but that doesn't mean games 'B' and 'C' won't be). In general, early adopters get bragging rights, while later purchasers get more value for their money.
SaraAB
05-03-2007, 01:39 PM
I do believe I will own a Wii eventually, when the price goes down or the market gets flooded with used, barely played Wii's from those who bought it and didn't like it and just played it a little bit, then I can buy a package that contains controllers, VC games and other extras I would never pay the outrageous prices they are charging for. I chose undecided because I am going mainly for a single-player experience here, I have no one to play this thing with, my mom might try it out once or twice but I seriously doubt she will play it anymore than that, and she seems to be showing just as much interest in my NES as she is in the Wii.
I have so many games that its pretty pointless for me to fork over the 250$ for the wii plus the cost of extra controllers and the cost of VC games when I already have a huge collection of systems and original games and know how to keep them in working order.
Since I am going for mainly the single player here, and I don't have a very heavy interest in Zelda or Super paper mario (especially when I KNOW that i will be able to get zelda for the gamecube for 19.99 eventually and I already have paper mario for the gamecube and it hasn't even been played yet), I don't see the point in forking over 250$ for this console just because everyone hypes it up to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. The Wii sells on hype alone, people go out and they see it and they buy it because they heard it was hard to find.
I take a look at the game release list for the wii and see... movie game x for kids, game x for kids, game x that costs 50$ for a 2 hour experience... etc.. ok some nintendo stuff, but I already have that for the gamecube and the N64 and I most likely haven't even touched it yet since I have been busy with all the wonderful games on the DS and GBA.
I have a DS and that has been keeping me quite busy, I look at the DS games release list and can pick out at least 4-5 big, long games that I want to buy each year and probably even more than 5 per year, which is enough to keep me busy until the Wii becomes a more reasonable price.
When the Wii gets down to 100$ or 150$ I will happily purchase one, provided they have colors on the shelves other than white, I refuse to buy a console in white, this console is gonna be the new yellow SNES in a few years..
I am going to wait for a price drop. By then I can probably get Zelda, wario and paper mario at discount price.
dallow
05-03-2007, 02:19 PM
Well I tend to agree a bit from a single-player point of view, I've never had anything but a riotly good time with Wii Sports and a friend or 3.
I played with two friends, a guy and a girl.
We all stopped after 15 mins and played Smash Bros.
Dark Slayer120
05-03-2007, 02:30 PM
I'll pass on a Wii until I can get one for about $100. Nothing interests me for it that isn't a port. Zelda I have for the gamecube, and Sonic I can get for PS3. Those would be the only two games out for it that I still would rather get for another console. The only upcoming game that I have slight interest in is the new smash bros game but is that worth a console? I really don't think so. So the Wii has nothing I'm interested in, and honestly to me they aren't worth $250. I guess I must have "crazy taste" in games....
botticus
05-03-2007, 02:55 PM
I'll pass on a Wii until I can get one for about $100. Nothing interests me for it that isn't a port. Zelda I have for the gamecube, and Sonic I can get for PS3. Those would be the only two games out for it that I still would rather get for another console. The only upcoming game that I have slight interest in is the new smash bros game but is that worth a console? I really don't think so. So the Wii has nothing I'm interested in, and honestly to me they aren't worth $250. I guess I must have "crazy taste" in games....I don't think I'll end up buying Sonic for Wii, but it is a much different, and if reviews are to believed, much better game than the 360/PS3 games.
whoknows
05-03-2007, 02:58 PM
I don't think I'll end up buying Sonic for Wii, but it is a much different, and if reviews are to believed, much better game than the 360/PS3 games.
I didn't think so. The 360/PS3 one is more like the Adventure games while the Wii one reminded me of well...Sonic riders. Sounds kinda weird but that's what it reminded me of. I didn't really like the whole on rails thing.
Kayden
05-03-2007, 04:01 PM
Avoiding Rings of Death? Shitty onboard video? Fully functional dashboards/online components? There are numerous reasons to wait a year even if it stays the same price. And why pay 50-60 for new releases when I have games I paid <20 for and still haven't opened? By the time I get through my old games, the new ones now will be dirt cheap.
I can understand a wait if the money would go to something more important, but I still don't think waiting makes much sense.
My roommate recently bought a 360. (Before the Elite.) He waited because he "wanted good games." Now, after a month or so of GoW, he is playing Oblivion and other games that have been out for a long time now. Game he could've been playing and enjoying long before now. I see/hear that similar story quite often.
I really don't believe anyone when they say there's not a single game on any console out now that they wouldn't want to play. If there's somebody who can't find at least one worthwhile game on Wii/360/PS3, then they must have one crazy taste in games.
msdmoney
05-03-2007, 04:29 PM
I don't think Tomb Raider or Top Spin were really launch/launch era games (correct me if I'm wrong), but the rest were all within the first 5 months of the console's life. I don't know if I'd include PDZ, Condemned, or NFS:MW in a "showoff" list, those are kind of the Trauma Centers of the 360 launch...they can be fun but they're not necessarily worth your $50. That's still 8 games though, which is about two times as many as the Wii has 6 months in.
Actually Condemned was a great game, I wouldn't put it in the same league as Perfect Dark Zero, which is one of the most overrated games I have played.
I will probably ask for the Wii as a gift for my birthday or this Christmas. I have wanted one since I tried it at E3, and I am excited about the games I have seen. But I am not going to wait in line early in the morning for a Wii, plus not many of the games I want have dropped in price yet. I can wait.
daroga
05-03-2007, 04:33 PM
I'll pass on a Wii until I can get one for about $100. Nothing interests me for it that isn't a port. Zelda I have for the gamecube, and Sonic I can get for PS3. Those would be the only two games out for it that I still would rather get for another console. The only upcoming game that I have slight interest in is the new smash bros game but is that worth a console? I really don't think so. So the Wii has nothing I'm interested in, and honestly to me they aren't worth $250. I guess I must have "crazy taste" in games....Tell me you didn't compare the travesty of a game in the PS3/360 Sonic game with the not-perfect-but-very-fun Sonic & the Secret Rings. The on-rails design for Sonic is the closest we've come to playing a Sonic game like the Genesis ones on a TV since, um, the Genesis. :)
Not saying it's not reason enough to buy a whole system, but don't lump those two games together, please. ;)
whoknows
05-03-2007, 06:53 PM
Tell me you didn't compare the travesty of a game in the PS3/360 Sonic game with the not-perfect-but-very-fun Sonic & the Secret Rings. The on-rails design for Sonic is the closest we've come to playing a Sonic game like the Genesis ones on a TV since, um, the Genesis. :)
Not saying it's not reason enough to buy a whole system, but don't lump those two games together, please. ;)
I know we've argued about this before, but I still say the 360/PS3 game is better than the Wii one.
Then again I suppose it's all about personal taste. So you want to play a game like the Adventure games or do you want an on rails game.
That's pretty much what it comes down to.
(oh, and the homing attack in Secret Rings killed it for me :-P )
dallow
05-03-2007, 07:44 PM
Personally, I took the on rails game.
I couldn't stand Adventure.
daroga
05-03-2007, 10:14 PM
I know we've argued about this before, but I still say the 360/PS3 game is better than the Wii one.
Then again I suppose it's all about personal taste. So you want to play a game like the Adventure games or do you want an on rails game.
That's pretty much what it comes down to.
(oh, and the homing attack in Secret Rings killed it for me :-P )I could've sworn we already agreed that your opinion was wrong and mine was right, didn't we? ;)
But you're right, if you're looking for another Sonic Adventure-esque game, you won't find it in Secret Rings. If you're looking for a "3D Genesis Sonic" game, you've got a better option in Secret Rings, I think. Only you don't have to hold Right (Up) to go!
Rei no Otaku
05-04-2007, 12:41 AM
Nope, I have no desire to get a Wii right now. Call me crazy, but I was never a fan of Nintendo's first party stuff. I don't like Mario, Zelda, Metroid or Smash Brothers. I have a Cube, but I bought that for RE4 and Tales of Symphonia. So I'm in no rush to get a Wii. Maybe when the new Fire Emblem comes out. Even then I'm not going to rush to do it.
Also I don't like moving a lot. Guitar Hero is about as much movement you're going to get out of me while I'm playing a game.
jimbodan
05-04-2007, 12:42 AM
Needs a price cut and more games before I grab one.
willardhaven
05-04-2007, 01:23 AM
I voted that I'm no longer interested, I actually have the older Wii.
It's square and purple.
zionoverfire
05-04-2007, 01:30 AM
I actually saw a stack at Costco a week ago but after grabbing one and debating for 10 minutes I put it back. I think when a couple good games hit the budget title range I'll think about picking one up.
Kayden
05-04-2007, 08:57 AM
I actually saw a stack at Costco a week ago but after grabbing one and debating for 10 minutes I put it back. I think when a couple good games hit the budget title range I'll think about picking one up.
A whole stack? Woah, that must mean Nintendo is totally failing this gen! LOLOLOZ!
:roll:
munch
05-04-2007, 09:06 AM
I saw 3 at Wal-Mart on Wednesday. That was the first time I ever saw them in a store.
seanr1221
05-04-2007, 09:45 AM
I'm happy I have my Wii and I've gotten close to 100 hours out of it since Christmas which, for me at-least, is nothing to sneeze at.
Now, sometimes I wonder if I'd have the Wii if it wasn't a Christmas gift. To be honest I'm not really sure. It's a fun little system; sleek and "hip". However, I can't help but wonder what will happen to the casual crowd when they tire of Wii Sports/Play and Wario Ware.
Also, I'm expecting great things from developers to be shown in the coming months. I mean, a system can't sell this much and get no love from developers right?
Furthermore, I have a small concern that some people have mentioned; games headed in a simpler direction. Sure, its fun to swing the remote around sometimes, but I mostly like sitting back with traditional controls.
Also, I wish Nintendo would have gone the extra distance and had the Wii output in 720p/1080i and DD 5.1 sound. I mean, all the ads for the Wii show it hooked up to beautiful LCD tvs, so one would naturally think it was a HD console. But to the developers: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T RELEASE A GAME THAT'S NOT EVEN IN 480P AND 16x9! Sorry, that hit a soft spot with me. I hate seeing some Wii games with the max resolution of 480i.
Not to sound all negative, the system has some great stuff coming out. Mario looks orgasmic, Smash Brothers will rule my junior year of college and strikers even looks interesting if not only for online play. In addition, I'm glad Nintendo didn't go the "Gamecube 2" route and tried something unique. Just start releasing more games Nintendo, that's all :D I have faith they can pull their shit together this generation.
daroga
05-04-2007, 10:15 AM
Also, I wish Nintendo would have gone the extra distance and had the Wii output in 720p/1080i and DD 5.1 sound. I mean, all the ads for the Wii show it hooked up to beautiful LCD tvs, so one would naturally think it was a HD console. But to the developers: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T RELEASE A GAME THAT'S NOT EVEN IN 480P AND 16x9! Sorry, that hit a soft spot with me. I hate seeing some Wii games with the max resolution of 480i.I guess I'd disagree at least on the video output (I wouldn't mind some 5.1 action on the Wii, though I've been impressed with how well ProLogic does work). Having the 360, sure the HD stuff is pretty and interesting, but I'd just assume have the system be cheaper and give that up. It looks great on my LCD TV with component cables, so I've got no complaints. But, I guess if we could've had a $250 Wii that output in 720p, I'd have taken it... maybe. ;)
But, on the latter part of your comment, YES! I wish Nintendo had put minimum requiresments on all games at 480p and 16:9, there's no reason not to. Giving developers a lazy out, be it in "We have 50 GB of storage so just schlep a bunch of unoptimized crap onto that disc!" or "We don't have to do 16:9 or 480p, so lets not!" is never a good idea. That being said, I've been impressed with the number of titles that have supported it.
I'm very confused why I hear how the Wii is just the next Gamecube, that theres no good games on it, that the pace is too slow, etc. And yet there's very little complaint about the PS3's trickle of games, or the 360's for that matter.
That's why I haven't bought any of them. At this point the only reason I'd even consider a PS3 is if I wanted the Blu Ray disc playback badly enough, because the games definitely aren't there and with it lagging sales to the Wii I'm not sure the 3rd party game support will be behind it like it was behind the PS1 and PS2.
But for me the 360 is the most tempting. It outputs high def and true surround so it would make full use of my setup and there are quite a few decent games out now. Still it's not quite enough for me to jump on it.
It's only $50 but for some reason I'm pretty sure if the Wii launched at $200 I'd have one by now. Of course they are still selling like hotcakes so I certainly can't say Nintendo made a mistake by going with $250, in fact in hindsight it would have been a mistake for them to go with $200 - that would have left a lot of money on the table. Just saying for me it seems a little high.
vherub
05-04-2007, 10:47 AM
I'm happy with the wii. I wish there were a few more games that really grabbed the meat of what the controls are like.
But Zelda, paper mario, warioware, trauma center, elebits, godfather, rayman and blur are all solid games I have enjoyed a good deal. And I am intrigued by heatseeker. And if you never had a cube, there are several dozen great titles that still standup.
What bothers me is the graphics are often a stepback. If the wii has similar architecture to the cube, shouldn't companies know all the tricks by now. I am seeing these amazing late-era ps2 titles that graphically blow the wii out of the water and it doesn't make sense.
I don't need games to look as shiny as the 360/ps3, but if they all looked at least like god of war 2, I'd be set.
Mr. Beef
05-04-2007, 03:50 PM
Right now, I live with 2 roommates who own Wiis, and I don't play any Wii games on it (it's basically a GCube sub for when we play Smash Brothers). As for if I want to buy one, the answer is "not yet." Super Paper Mario is imo the best Wii game to come out since launch (Twilight Princess doesn't count, because it's not a Wii game, and you know it). Wario Ware was a disappointment, and don't get me started on Red Steel.
Brawl is my only reason to purchase a Wii at any point in time.
The Mana Knight
05-05-2007, 11:18 AM
No, I have not bought a Wii yet. If I saw one, I would not buy it. However, my mind might change eventually
Here's my reasons against a Wii:
1. I absolutely hate Zelda. The only Zelda I liked was Zelda II The Adventure's of Link. I've tried really hard to get into Zelda games over the years, but I end up getting bored with them and stop playing. I personally feel Zelda is the most overrated series along with GTA. There goes Legend of Zelda TP.
2. I use to love Mario platformers, but now I could careless about them. I love Super Mario on NES and SNES. Super Mario 64 was good, but just wasn't as fun as the originals. Super Mario Sunshine was the most disappointing game for me last generation. New Super Mario Bros. was hated almost as much by me, so I no longer have interests in a Mario. Therefore, I don't care about Super Mario Galaxy, even if it looks a little different.
3. I never liked Metroid, and I still don't like Metroid (there goes Metroid Prime 3). I never really liked the 2D ones and I dislike Metroid Prime even more (especially since its in first person view).
4. I think Super Smash Bros. is a little overrated. I enjoy them a little, but I much rather play a tradition fighter like Tekken, Guilty Gear, etc. I would get Super Smash Bros. Brawl, but not until it's a Player's Choice on sale (for $25 or less).
5. Just not into Nintendo's franchises overall. There's no denying I like Fire Emblem, F-Zero to an extent, Wave Race, and a few others, but the majority of Nintendo franchises, I just don't like. I only like around 15% of Nintendo first party games. I usually buy Nintendo platforms these days for third party games. Most first party stuff I like is Sony or Microsoft.
6. Wii is mostly for multi-player gaming, just like any other Nintendo console. How often do I have a friend come by and play video games with me?? Like 0.0000001% of the time. Most of my offline multi-player games have layers of dust since I don't have anyone to play them with.
7. VC prices = too much. There's no denying I want to play some of the old games, but I'm not willing to pay the price for many of them. There are some games I'd be willing to pay for, but I really don't see myself getting a lot of usage out of it.
8. No High definition. Originally, this wouldn't have bothered me, but since I got a nice new LCD flat panel HDTV at 720p/1080i, I just can't stand to play non high definition games on it. Getting my new TV has made me careless about playing anything on PS2, GC, or most any old console anymore since the graphics will look like crap on the TV. Also, when comparing them to HD graphics, it's just too difficult for me to go back. I've been getting rid of PS2 games a lot lately since I just can't go back (I strictly play PS3 and 360 way more now, with an HDTV).
9. The last time I really liked a Nintendo platform the most was with the SNES. I absolutely hated the N64 (except for a few games). I liked GC slightly more, but it was still disappointing and it was my last favorite console last generation. I didn't like GBC at all. I liked a few long running series on GBA (like Mega Man, Sonic, Final Fantasy, Castlevania, and Bomberman), but not much outside of it. It was my favorite Nintendo platform since SNES, but still not very big to me (mostly because of its sound capabilities, which showed how poor they were in SNES ports). DS is all right, but I rarely play mine, So, after not enjoying many Nintendo platforms over the years (Nintendo isn't bad, just not appealing to me), it's tough for me to want to take another chance with Nintendo.
10. I just don't like the overall direction of the Wii. Some like how the console is cheap and different. For me, I prefer to lay down in bed, to play video games. I also like many lengthy single player games. I just don't enjoy many of the types of games Wii is offering, like Wii Sports, Wii Play, etc. I really don't like the idea of devs putting motion controls into most games. I just want to play games on a regular controller. From what I hear, many say the Wii is a lot like playing a DS on a TV (to an extent). Since I'm not really into the DS type gameplay much, that isn't appealing to me.
Here's my reasons I'll get a Wii:
1. Nintendo now owns Monolith Soft. I'm not Baten Kaitos fan, but I absolutely love Xenosaga. Monolith Soft may push me to get a Wii.
2. DDR Hottest Party. I buy almost every DDR (except for Mario Mix and Disney Mix), so this may push me to get one.
3. If Guilty Gear X2 Accent Core comes stateside for Wii, and not for PS2, that may convince me more to buy a Wii, since I'm a big Guilty Gear fan.
4. The Wii is doing well in Japan, and I do like many Japanese games; therefore, I may see stuff I like.
5. I'll own all new consoles if I buy a Wii. :D
torifile
05-05-2007, 12:02 PM
Mana, the Wii is clearly not for you. If you hate all the current first party games AND hate the franchises, why would you even *consider* the Wii? That's a sign N's doing something right. :lol:
The Crotch
05-05-2007, 04:32 PM
A bunch of stuff.
You forgot: it's not in black.
Anyway, the poll is flawed. While you can get a sort-of good idea as to how many CAGs don't own a Wii, you have no idea what the ration of owners:non-owners is. You also should have had an option for "never wanted one".
Me? I do own a Wii. It mostly plays GameCube games now. No, it's not because there aren't enough good games out there. It's because I live eighty billion gajillion miles from anywhere, and very rarely buy games because of this. I've still gotta get Paper Mario, Elebits, Sonic (quiet, WhoKnows, or I'll sick Daroga - and all of gamerankings.com - on ya), Excite Truck, Wii Play, and (when it gets a bit cheaper - not paying full price for another CoD with no fucking splitscreen) Call of Duty. My location also means no going online for me, so no VC games, as much as I'd like 'em. Hell, I haven't even been able to get a second fucking controller!
argyle
05-05-2007, 04:49 PM
It doesn't appeal to me. It's personal preference, but I prefer the innovations that the increased horsepower of the other two systems can provide. Things such as increased AI, larger worlds, more interactivity, etc. The motion controls are nice, but I honestly prefer Sony's approach to that - it's optional for games that can benefit from it, but the whole system/controller is built around it.
Plus, the games just don't appeal to me. I'm not just talking out now, I'm talking upcoming as well. There are more PS3 games coming this year that I'm really interested in than I can possibly play, but I honestly haven't seen anything in the Wii's lineup that interests me at all.
The Mana Knight
05-05-2007, 05:35 PM
You forgot: it's not in black.I didn't think about that. My 360 is white, but I badly want an Elite since its black. ;)
Mana, the Wii is clearly not for you. If you hate all the current first party games AND hate the franchises, why would you even *consider* the Wii? That's a sign N's doing something right. :lol:I just can't live without access to 100% of the console games made. I know for sure there will be a few Wii games I want not on PS3 or 360. Also, if a game in a series I love gets announced for Wii, it would really hurt not to be able to play it, due to not owning a Wii.
sarausagi
05-05-2007, 05:51 PM
Post that mirrors my own opinionD
You make these threads easier, as I never have to post long winded replies when you do it for me..
I'm much the same way..Nintendo franchises I love
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Wave Race
F-Zero
Pilot Wings
And obviously, those are the Nintendo franchises that Nintendo completely ignores for the most part. I was so tempted to buy a Gamecube when it came out just for Blue Storm, thankfully resisted that temptation and now Blue Storm and a Gamecube cost me what the game cost new years ago.
So it's hard to get excited about a Nintendo console when the "heavy hitters", the big blockbusters, are all franchises I really could careless for. I mean, Zelda, isn't even really an RPG. Does it even have stats? Plus it's almost the same story every single time. I won't lie and say I didn't enjoy Zelda DX on GBC and Oracle of Seasons/Ages, probably because the story was very different to the average Zelda title..plus 2d..yay.
And as for Smash Brothers, I've seen enough and read enough to know it is indeed a legitimate fighting game, but here's the thing: if you HATE Marvel and loathe capcom, there's very little chance you'll love MVC2, there has to be some attachment there. I'm pretty sure I would love Smash Brothers if it was Ryu and Wolverine and Megaman, but I just don't like looking at Mario, it annoys me, kind of makes me feel sick..probably the nose in relation to the face or the specific set of movements that I have memorized. Maybe it thrills others when they see him do that little jump with his arm up or he does that thing where he kind of runs forward and stops..but it just makes me a little angry, a little sad.
I think the poll needs a "NEVER WANTED A WII". At times I've been tempted to get a Cube, for a while I had a N64, but having a Wii never really appealed to me: especially when I found out about the controls. The mere thought that the Wii is taking my beloved games [NiGHTS, Xenosaga, Dance Dance Revolution] depresses me: by this point there should be a PS3 DDR announced, but instead it is for the Wii. I want to stomp some arrows, and I'm honestly afraid that DDR will become a tilt and waggle obsessed magic wand party game. Then there was that rumor of a PS3 action game starring Kos-Mos, but with Monolith being bought by Nintendo, that's over too.
None the less, the minute they announce "Xenosaga 4" or "Xenogears remake" and they say "AND HEY, YOU CAN USE THE WAVEBIRD!", I buy a Wii that exact second. I truly don't understand why Nintendo wants a company that makes cut scene filled [yay!] Japanese RPG's...doesn't seem very Nintendo like at all...maybe they want to be like the Super NES days again? But I doubt it, the DS and Wii are making WAAAAAAAAAAY too much money with their casual/twitch setting and RPG's don't fit into that..remember the quote?
"People who play RPGs are depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games."
Yamauchi may be gone, but the fact that Nintendo has not produced a single story driven turn based RPG proves to me that mentality is still there.
Roufuss
05-05-2007, 06:00 PM
Yamauchi may be gone, but the fact that Nintendo has not produced a single story driven turn based RPG proves to me that mentality is still there.
Earthbound. Fire Emblem (an SPRG, but still turn based and very story driven). Paper Mario. Those Mario and Luigi games on the GBA / DS. Magical Starsign.
All of them are fantastic RPG's... Earthbound is a bit old, but it's still a classic.
And Nintendo publishes a good deal of RPG's... they published Tales of Phantasia, all the GBA FF's, probably some other RPG's I can't think of. We wouldn't have seen Tales of Phantasia in the US if it wasn't for Nintendo.
sarausagi
05-05-2007, 06:06 PM
Earthbound. Fire Emblem. Paper Mario. Those Mario and Luigi games on the GBA / DS. Magical Starsign.
All of them are fantastic RPG's... Earthbound is a bit old, but it's still a classic.
And Nintendo publishes a good deal of RPG's... they published Tales of Phantasia, all the GBA FF's, probably some other RPG's I can't think of. We wouldn't have seen Tales of Phantasia in the US if it wasn't for Nintendo.
I meant Nintendo first party. I know about the Tales series [bound to get it when I pick up a cheap cube] and I have Fire Emblem for Gameboy [which is a strategy RPG] as well as Tales and Magical Starsign on DS [trust me, I wouldn't have a DS if it wasn't for the number of great RPG's on it]
What I really meant is console...even Sony and Microsoft [which spend half their time trying to be cool] put their effort into RPG's: Sony did Legend of Dragoon in the PSOne days, pretty much funded Wild Arms and made Arc the Lad. Microsoft is pushing with Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, and Mass Effect. But on the main consoles, besides Paper Mario TYD [which I am also getting with a cube..even if it is Mario I've played half of it and it's very good] and maybe the GC Fire Emblem, Nintendo's never attempted a serious RPG [the kind Yamauchi said only depressed lonely gamers play]
Well Nintendo recently brought Monolith Soft, a company known for RPGs like Baten Kaitos and xenosaga so it is a step in the right direction. Nintendo also published Bateb Kaitos origins themselves.
Eternal Sonata is published by Namco Bandi.
The Mana Knight
05-05-2007, 07:19 PM
You make these threads easier, as I never have to post long winded replies when you do it for me..
I'm much the same way..Nintendo franchises I love
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Wave Race
F-Zero
Pilot Wings
And obviously, those are the Nintendo franchises that Nintendo completely ignores for the most part. I was so tempted to buy a Gamecube when it came out just for Blue Storm, thankfully resisted that temptation and now Blue Storm and a Gamecube cost me what the game cost new years ago.
So it's hard to get excited about a Nintendo console when the "heavy hitters", the big blockbusters, are all franchises I really could careless for. I mean, Zelda, isn't even really an RPG. Does it even have stats? Plus it's almost the same story every single time. I won't lie and say I didn't enjoy Zelda DX on GBC and Oracle of Seasons/Ages, probably because the story was very different to the average Zelda title..plus 2d..yay.
And as for Smash Brothers, I've seen enough and read enough to know it is indeed a legitimate fighting game, but here's the thing: if you HATE Marvel and loathe capcom, there's very little chance you'll love MVC2, there has to be some attachment there. I'm pretty sure I would love Smash Brothers if it was Ryu and Wolverine and Megaman, but I just don't like looking at Mario, it annoys me, kind of makes me feel sick..probably the nose in relation to the face or the specific set of movements that I have memorized. Maybe it thrills others when they see him do that little jump with his arm up or he does that thing where he kind of runs forward and stops..but it just makes me a little angry, a little sad.
I think the poll needs a "NEVER WANTED A WII". At times I've been tempted to get a Cube, for a while I had a N64, but having a Wii never really appealed to me: especially when I found out about the controls. The mere thought that the Wii is taking my beloved games [NiGHTS, Xenosaga, Dance Dance Revolution] depresses me: by this point there should be a PS3 DDR announced, but instead it is for the Wii. I want to stomp some arrows, and I'm honestly afraid that DDR will become a tilt and waggle obsessed magic wand party game. Then there was that rumor of a PS3 action game starring Kos-Mos, but with Monolith being bought by Nintendo, that's over too.
None the less, the minute they announce "Xenosaga 4" or "Xenogears remake" and they say "AND HEY, YOU CAN USE THE WAVEBIRD!", I buy a Wii that exact second. I truly don't understand why Nintendo wants a company that makes cut scene filled [yay!] Japanese RPG's...doesn't seem very Nintendo like at all...maybe they want to be like the Super NES days again? But I doubt it, the DS and Wii are making WAAAAAAAAAAY too much money with their casual/twitch setting and RPG's don't fit into that..remember the quote?
"People who play RPGs are depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games."
Yamauchi may be gone, but the fact that Nintendo has not produced a single story driven turn based RPG proves to me that mentality is still there.Your post mostly mirrors mine too, but I never really played much Pokemon in all seriousness. Despite being a huge fan of Wave Race on N64, Blue Storm was a little bit of a disappointment to me, but I still liked it (not as much as the original). First GC game I bought btw.
That's part of my problem with Zelda. I want an RPG with several stats. I want to gain level ups as I kill/defeat enemies. When I save my game, I want to save EXACTLY where I left off at some save point, not at the beginning of a dungeon or some town somewhere (which really irritates me personally about Zelda).
I agree about those franchises, since I love them too. I want to see DDR on PS3, taking FULL advantage of blu-ray disc storage with HD backgrounds and tons of music, but that's just me. I was a big fan of NiGHTs too on Saturn (one of the reasons I really liked the Saturn).
Yeah, story driven RPGs are what I love big time (which is why I own over 180 of them). The part of what
Well Nintendo recently brought Monolith Soft, a company known for RPGs like Baten Kaitos and xenosaga so it is a step in the right direction. .I disagree 100%. I want to see Xenosaga in HD with impressive graphics. I don't want to see a Xenosaga or some RPG by them look on par with a GC RPG (like Baten Kaitos).
dallow
05-05-2007, 07:24 PM
I wrote this exact same thing months ago:
I'd love to see how Zelda would look with PS3/360 horsepower behind it.
I loved Twilight Princess to death, reminded me of the good old days on SNES, but I want to see it as I see it in my dreams. Time for the next step.
Maybe in the console gen for Nintendo.
VAD3R or Fro
05-05-2007, 08:46 PM
My parents bought me a Wii as a birthday present. They didn't find any at the game stores, but Sears had 2 of them so they bought one their.
CocheseUGA
05-05-2007, 09:09 PM
I got the money, now I can't find any.
SaraAB
05-05-2007, 10:42 PM
Maybe I would enjoy music games if they allowed you to add your own music to them through an ipod or other MP3 player, with the popularity of ipods and MP3 these days that ability seems like something that should be a given. Not everyone listens to the mainstream music they put in the music games, some people have different tastes, if they were able to pull this off, then they could please everyone. This is what's really turning me off from music games, I just don't like the type of music they use in them.
Truthfully I am really on the fence about all 3 consoles, none of them have anything that will make me buy them, and all 3 of them are overpriced. Plus I just have so many games here... its hard to justify the purchase of another console, unless that console is in the 10-30$ price range at a yard sale.
I just have really specific tastes in games and I don't want to buy a console and then find out it has no games I even remotely want on it.
davidjinfla
05-06-2007, 07:48 AM
I have no interest. I like racing games, rpg, shooters, and sports. Not really to many of those for the wii. Maybe next year it will have more of these available but I have a 360, DS, and PSP and am content for now with the releases scheduled for this year.
DiscoDuck8k
05-06-2007, 01:29 PM
I love Nintendo and I do want to get one, so I eventually will.. just not anytime soon. There's a few games already out that I'd definitely pick up, I don't know.. I guess I'm just not in any rush.
Plus, I still have yet to see them sitting around at any store.. and I don't really feel like going on a grand adventure to find one. By the time I'm ready to buy, they should be readily available with more games to choose from as well.
RelentlessRolento
05-06-2007, 05:17 PM
I'll get one when my finances are good and I don't want a PS3 more.
The Mana Knight
05-06-2007, 06:19 PM
My other problem with Wii is that it has many games which are basically a collection of mini-games or something, and they are charged at full price. This is an example of one of them:
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=T000562
If this was on PSN, it would be $10 or less.
omegaweapon7
05-06-2007, 06:33 PM
Im planned to buy one because 1) zelda, dont have a cube, and 2) sisters and a little brother.
but 3 additional controllers bring the cost to $400, that and I have NO INTEREST whatsoever in Wii games besides zelda, I dont think i want one anymore.
AshesofWake
05-06-2007, 06:40 PM
where's the "i can't afford" option?
Spades22
05-06-2007, 07:31 PM
woah just voted... I picked undecided...and evened the poll to a three way tie at 38 for all 3, which is pretty cool xD I'm waiting to see how anxious I get when Smash comes out, and possibly new games as well.
botticus
05-06-2007, 07:59 PM
My other problem with Wii is that it has many games which are basically a collection of mini-games or something, and they are charged at full price. This is an example of one of them:
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=T000562
If this was on PSN, it would be $10 or less.I hope you know that's probably the table tennis game from Wii Play. ;) EB just listed a dozen games at $49.99 after E3 showings last year and they've been there since.
tehweezner
05-06-2007, 08:08 PM
i think nintendo was very smart in opening up the market to all kind of people, not just your typical male gamer. however, as a somewhat typical male gamer i don't really find it very interesting.
tried wii sports, got bored after about 2 minutes. zelda i can get on the gamecube and no other games interest me.
as of now, the 360 is the most attractive to me of the next gen consoles. it appeals to me by having GTA4, Halo 3, DMC4 and other similar games on the way
terribledeli
05-06-2007, 10:26 PM
I bought one waiting for WarioWare. After WarioWare, I sold it. I did keep my games (even bought Paper Mario) for when I rebuy at a MSRP under $100.
Even though it is $249.99 it is not a bargain at all, with outdated technology and all. If it had a great selection of games I could overlook this, but right now the library is absolutely lackluster. Once it builds a good library I will consider buying one.
Zen Davis
05-06-2007, 10:47 PM
Whoever doesn't buy a Wii is afraid of new technology. :)