Am I the only one bored as shit with the wii?

[help1]

I mean, I dont regret buying the Wii just yet, but right now its collecting dust. Which should be expected as the only good games that will come out will be first person, which is what I bought it for. Damn, mario party needs to come out.

This is def. a repost isn't it?

[jer7583]

I play my 360 more, but that will change over summer with not having broadband. I'll catch up on SPM and Godfather then.

[Dezuria]

I haven't played mine much lately. I've slowly played though Zelda, and I'm near the end. I play Super Paper Mario a few hours a week, but that's it.

If I could just get away from World of Warcraft.. :)

[Moses144]

Probably won't get a game for the Wii until Brawl, maybe RE 4, even though I own it for the GC, which is esentially the same system.

[mjgoldie]

I got mine, and then sold it about 4 months later. It just didn't do it for me.

[The Crotch]

My Wii is essentially a GameCube right now (unless my brothers are around, in which case Wii Sports is on all day). That's not a comment on the quality/number of Wii games - that's a combination of the high quality of a lot of GC games I had missed out on (Chibi-Robo, Two Thrones, FIRE EMBLEM), and the fact that I haven't been into the city to buy games since I first got the machine. That means no Wii Play, no Godfather, no Paper Mario... not even a second frigging remote. Just single-player Sports (still damn good), Zelda, and Trauma Center.

[asianxcore]

I've had mine since launch and as you said it's just collecting dust.

I actually haven't played anything new on the Wii since Warioware: Smooth Moves first came out.

I'm going to keep it around though for Mario Galaxy, Smash and other 1st party titles.

[captmurphy]

No, you aren't the only one; I sold my Wii about a week ago. It wasn't the "groundbreaking" experience the hype machine has made it out to be. I found that instead of pushing a button to do something, I was waving my arm around (with mixed results), and I don't particularly enjoy swinging my arm around for kicks. A PS3 and 360 will be more than enough for me unless Nintendo shows that the Wii is not a gimmick.

[Ikohn4ever]

ehh its just a dry spell come this fall, things will pick up

[Chacrana]

I'd go as far as to say that I definitely regret buying the Wii. The horizon is grim. Yeah, there's Nintendo's first party games hitting at the end of the year, but by this point, I'm convinced that the controls are a gimmick simply because nearly every game that uses the Wiimote's features ends up being more difficult to control than the game would be on a normal controller. You have to spend more time learning to play a game than you would normally and unfortunately, the "innovative" controls typically offer absolutely nothing immersing or any advantage over a regular controller. It's to the point where I'm disappointed when I hear about something like Nights 2 coming to the Wii because by this point, I feel I know what to expect -- crappy graphics and stupid controls. I hope the system proves me wrong when Nintendo's first party games finally do come out since right now, there's nothing on the system that interests me and my expectations for the system are near zero.

[rodeojones903]

Currently yes. The only thing I have used it for in a while is to download a VC game, play it once, and realize the the nostalgia wore off fast. I look at the games coming down the pipeline and I really dont see much Im interested in right now. I really hope that changes.

[Slayzz]

I Haven't touch my Wii since I beat SPM. I'm starting to hate Nintendo's focus on casual gamer. The Wii games are getting too easy and too short.

[2Fast]

I've had a Wii since launch and only have Wii Sports, Zelda, and Paper Mario.

With that said, I do not regret my purchase at all whatsoever; while I don't play it as often as I like, I'm looking forward to the future of the system (read: SSB Brawl).

[peteloaf]

Wii single player = pure crap, possably the worst console in history for this (at this point in it's life).
Wii multiplayer* = pure awesomeness, possably the best console in history for this. (* same console multiplayer)

Now this all could change, maybe developers will find thier sea legs and start making decent games, but as it stands if you game mostly alone the Wii isn't worth it.

[MrX]

As a previous poster had said this really has become my gc. I had a gc on launch and then dropped it after about a 1yr and never got another one so I have many great GC games to catch up on. Plus I stll have not beat Zelda. By the time I finally beat it RE4 will be out then I will get it and be hooked for a while on it. It really seems very GC to me so far. About 1-2 good games every 6 months which is fine because it keeps me busy and not broke :lol:

[Strell]

Yeah, I regret buying the 360. The graphics are just a little better, but all the games are just rehashes of what I've already played. And half of them don't even have the stuff the PS2 version has.

This is still 2006, right?

[integralsmatic]

never had a wii but my best friend has one. he likes his but after he finished zelda there is really nothing he wants to play.he is gonna pick SPM soon but he really wants MP 8. Im happy i spent for the 360 and not waited for a wii. I could see how easily bored i would be without anyone to play the games with. i think give the wii library some time and things should pick up for it.

edit:this doesnt mean i still dont want one. i still want one!

[rodeojones903]

I'm starting to hate Nintendo's focus on casual gamer. The Wii games are getting too easy and too short.

That is my biggest problem with the system. Miyamoto's recent comments have made it sound like that style of game is going to be their main focus. I am so sick and tired of mini games ala Mario Party. Give us something with some substance.

[onikage]

There was a time earlier this year when FFXII occupied all my gaming time, but I can't say I've been bored with the Wii yet. I've gotten a lot of mileage out of 2 launch games, Wii Sports and Red Steel. I still play Wii Sports quite often and play RS multi once in a while. Right now I'm in the middle of playing through Super Paper Mario and Zelda, so the Wii has most of my attention for the time being.

[botticus]

Hey guys, I heard there aren't any good games on the Wii. Is that true?

[seanr1221]

Yeah, I regret buying the 360. The graphics are just a little better, but all the games are just rehashes of what I've already played. And half of them don't even have the stuff the PS2 version has.

This is still 2006, right?

The difference is this time last year 360 owners were knee-deep in GRAW and Oblivion, with Dead Rising coming out in a couple months.

There is no doubting Nintendo is lacking in games right now, much like all systems when they first come out, however the problem most people have is that the best games for the Wii are essentially Cube games

However, IMO, Nintendo gets a pass here because the control is different and like the DS, I'm waiting for developers to take full advantage of it.

[dallow]

Gosh, things are so overwhelmingly negative in here.
No need for me to opine, you probably already know what I'd say.

[Strell]

The difference is this time last year 360 owners were knee-deep in GRAW and Oblivion, with Dead Rising coming out in a couple months.

There is no doubting Nintendo is lacking in games right now, much like all systems when they first come out, however the problem most people have is that the best games for the Wii are essentially Cube games

However, IMO, Nintendo gets a pass here because the control is different and like the DS, I'm waiting for developers to take full advantage of it.

The other difference is that no one wanted to support the Wii because all the developers thought it was going to be bullshit.

Hence why we've seen a rash of "omfg why didn't we support the Wii" comments.

Also, whereas one person might love those games, another might hate them. Personally none of those appeal, which is why the argument stands if I'm trying to be a smartass about it.

Which I of course am.

[io]

Hey guys, I heard there aren't any good games on the Wii. Is that true?

I've heard that as well on the Internets. Maybe I'll sell mine 'cause everyone tells me it sucks. I'll just play my black 747 all day long (well, my ears ring like they do after a cross-country flight after 3-4 hours of play on my Elite, anyway ;)).

Seriously, though, I have a backlog of Wii games, so I disagree entirely with the "nothing to play" meme... I am playing the 360 more this week, but that's simply because it is new and shiny. I expect it to be set aside and collect dust as more high-profile Wii games come out.

The system I haven't touched in a month, surprisingly, is my DS. I guess because I have lost interest in that I should make a poll about how crappy the games are and, as a result, ask if everyone is bored with it :lol:.

[secretvampire]

The other difference is that no one wanted to support the Wii because all the developers thought it was going to be bullshit.
QFT. There is going to be a FLOOD of third party stuff coming out in about six months as they all scramble to support the system that is going to vault into first place. Like the DS, you had a slow period at first and then once the third parties realized it was the real deal, the dam broke and stuff was developed like CRAZY.

It is seriously the DS all over again. Gimmick? -> OH SHIT. -> Selling like hotcakes

[PawnTakesKing]

Gosh, things are so overwhelmingly negative in here.
No need for me to opine, you probably already know what I'd say.

Actually, no. Please enlighten us. :D

I can honestly say I'm thankful for the Wii. It's the only console I can afford right now, other than my DS. Also, the temporary lack of games saves me money, but even if I get bored I can always download a VC title I've never played before (i.e. Beyond Oasis) and enjoy some retro nostalgia.

I'm still getting plenty of mileage out of Excite Truck and Super Paper Mario, but the real payoffs for me will be Metroid Prime 3 (which will truly make use of the Wii controls) and Resident Evil 4 (which I've never played before). SSBB and Mario Galaxy are just icing on the cake.

[dallow]

A backlog of Wii games?

C'mon IO, raise your standards a bit! :)
You do have young children though, so it may be a little different for ya.

Actually, no. Please enlighten us. :D
Oh, well, I never see you post, but others would know that it's negative as well.
It's my replacement GC, only keeping it for Nintendo gold.
Yadda yadda yadda. Nothing new.

[geko29]

Mine bricked 4 days after I got it, so I returned it. Not sure if I'm going to buy another if I can even manage to find one, just not sure it's worth $436 (console--$271.69, 1 complete set of controllers--$82.52, chargestation/component cable--$36.84, Zelda--$44.99), especially since I was already tiring of Wii Sports.

Unfortunately, I didn't get much of a chance to find out if I like Zelda (never made it past the beginning cutscenes), so I can't even use that as an extra datapoint, and the game's open so I can't return it either.

Bottom line is I just have no luck. My first 360 was DOA too (wouldn't boot with HDD attached), but at least I was able to get a same-day swap.

[PawnTakesKing]

Oh, well, I never see you post, but others would know that it's negative as well.
It's my replacement GC, only keeping it for Nintendo gold.
Yadda yadda yadda. Nothing new.

I usually just frequent the Nintendo forums, as like I said, the Wii and DS are the only systems I can afford. I still browse the other forums, but I usually have nothing useful to contribute, so I don't post.

Not that I have anything useful to contribute here either, but being amongst regulars like Strell, daroga, and botticus makes it feel like home.

Sorry to hear about your Wii disappointment. Give it a chance though. Lots of good stuff in the pipe.

[ItsTrueItsTrue92]

I bought mine basically on impulse at the end of February. I have only Zelda. I haven't beaten it yet but I almost wish I got a PS3 instead. I find myself wasting points on crap games that I played as a kid like TMNT when I could get a good PS1 game for the same price. Also, I feel the controller is holding me back from Zelda, especially during the water temple, which is where I'm at now.

[Old Rasputin]

You get what you paid for.

[dallow]

I usually just frequent the Nintendo forums, as like I said, the Wii and DS are the only systems I can afford. I still browse the other forums, but I usually have nothing useful to contribute, so I don't post.

Not that I have anything useful to contribute here either, but being amongst regulars like Strell, daroga, and botticus makes it feel like home.

Sorry to hear about your Wii disappointment. Give it a chance though. Lots of good stuff in the pipe.
Hey you should know me then. I spend a lot of time in the Wii forum.
I think I'm hated there though.
Sigh, hated for loving.

[seanr1221]

The other difference is that no one wanted to support the Wii because all the developers thought it was going to be bullshit.

Hence why we've seen a rash of "omfg why didn't we support the Wii" comments.

Also, whereas one person might love those games, another might hate them. Personally none of those appeal, which is why the argument stands if I'm trying to be a smartass about it.

Which I of course am.

You have no interest in bashing zombies with various weapons? As a fellow nerd, I must say for-shame!

But for Nintendo's sake, I hope there is a flood of third party support coming their way. It's about damn time 3rd parties stepped it up on a Nintendo machine.

[Strell]

You have no interest in bashing zombies with various weapons? As a fellow nerd, I must say for-shame!

But for Nintendo's sake, I hope there is a flood of third party support coming their way. It's about damn time 3rd parties stepped it up on a Nintendo machine.

Yeah yeah. :p

The funny thing about third party support is that I've found the argument - at least as it pertains to Nintendo systems - is that no one wants third party games. It's funny, really. People bitch there's no support, but when it arrives, no one gives the games a chance. Instead, they complain "omfg when does (FirstPartyNintendoGame) come out? I hate this drought."

Meanwhile, a good portion of games - some fairly worthwhile - tend to not sell very well. Developers of course turn this around and bitch that their games don't sell on a Nintendo system, and subsequently lower support. (Of course, the corollary to this argument is that they probably ported a POS game over with a POS team, so the game turned out to be a POS. When they step it up, they tend to have better results, which usually means better sells, but ehhh. This argument ends up eating itself and asking for seconds after you look at all the damn angles.)

The difference this time around is that it looks fairly certain that the Wii is going to have a lot more support. I'm honestly thinking a lot of developers will be "lazy" and move to sending projects to the Wii as opposed to big costly development on the 360/PS3, but I could be wrong. It's just that when you see the PS2 getting the amount of support it still has, I can see that transitioning over to the Wii.

At any rate, I'm trying to support the third parties. I know Mario/SSBB/Metroid will (most likely) all sell well, so I'm going to try and support the better third party attempts - No More Heroes being a good example.

[RelentlessRolento]

I'll be buying a Wii no matter what, but I see no reason to until No More Heroes comes out. Wario was the only other game on the Wii I wanted and until the "mini game" fad dies out on the Wii like it did on the DS, the Wii is snore city.

[Xevious]

The Wii needs a killer game. You can only go so long on Mario and Zelda.....

[jollydwarf]

I'm starting to hate Nintendo's focus on casual gamer.

And the more they sell, the longer The Great Shortage of 2007 lasts, the more said focus shifts to the Johnny-and-Minivan-Mommy-Come-Latelies. I said it before, much to the delight of many, but firmly believe that when it's all said and done, The Twilight Princess will be the best non-VC, non-Capcom cash-in rehash game released on the Wii. With the Wii being so successful right out of the shoot, this may be the last generation of the 'epic' game...or even the 10-hour one.

It's not just the Wii, mind you. It's some gamers getting older*, having less time, it's gamers getting their Faustian wish fulfilled of gaming becoming commonplace with the masses, it's kids with essentially non-existent attention spans, it's the DS setting the stage for this sort of thing, etc.

Oh, yeah, and..."Sliiiimmm Pickinnnnsss!" (http://media.1up.com/media?id=3245822&type=lg) No good reason, just contractually obligated to say it once a week.

*--No, really, we're at a unique point in gaming, where the bulk of people that grew up with the 2600-NES era are now well into their careers and/or family life. That hasn't really been a prominent issue until now, and one can only arrest their development for so long.

[Chris in Cali]

I bought my Wii at launch, and I'm totally unhappy with it. I hardly ever use it, the games just aren't there. The controll thus far has proven to be annoying, and gimmicky unlike the DS which was a good, refreshing change. I see no games on the horizon except Smash Bros Brawl, and Nintendo still has proven they completely do not care about the online features gamers want. I will not be selling my Wii however because I've invested quite a bit of money in VC games, and I still love playing Gamecube games, and do not want to re-buy the Gamecube.

[Supercake]

The only game I'm keeping the Wii for is No More Heroes. Anything else is just a bonus as far as I'm concerned. I'm unhappy with the Wii, since I've yet to play anything worthwhile on it. (Not a big Zelda fan, but am about to play Super Paper Mario.)

I still think it's another "supplement" console, as the Cube was to the PS2/Xbox. You can survive with just a Wii, but it's going to be a boring time.

The Wii will have better games later on, it's just wait and see for now. And I'm not ever selling it either.

[Apossum]

I sold mine a few months back. there weren't any games I was interested in and I felt like a sucker getting excited about re-buying retro games. Even worse, there was no way to save or transfer those games and there likely never will be. DEAR NINTENDO: EVERYONE ALREADY PIRATES ALL YOUR SYSTEMS. GIVE US A WAY TO BACK UP VC GAMES. THX.


anyway, my only regret is selling a bundle for too cheap to someone who didn't seem to appreciate the deal. ;)

[kainzero]

While I would love to agree with everyone's assessment that the Wii isn't really offering anything right now, my friend brought up a really good point.

Most systems need at least a year or two before their library really ramps up. The Wii is only 6, 7 months old? The PS2 didn't really have much until MGS2, FFX, GTA3, GT3. A system around launch only needs a few games to sustain itself, until the next big game cycle.

I don't know what lies in the future so yeah.

[Roufuss]

Am I the only one bored with all of these topics?

It boils down to the same people saying "I had a Wii and sold it" "Hey the only good game is Zelda" "I'll get one when Smash Brothers is out" "VC games suck" and "Hey the Wii has some good games I like it give these games a chance".

Yawn.

[rajchakrabarti]

the 360 didn't have any amazing games right away... but it did have online...(pdz online was fun) which helped its dry spell.

I'm just hoping the wii ramps up soon.. cuz its been quite a while and I haven't touched it since i beat zelda. Where the hell is mario when you need him ?

[LostRoad]

Sorry but if any one is bored or regrets buying a Wii so soon its your own fault. Nothing has changed with the types of games the big N is known for since the N64. On top of that the system hasnt even been out a year. For some reason did you think it would start to carry games that are more common on the PS or 360? Unless you are new to gaming you damn well knew how many games would be coming out how soon and which of those games types intrest you. Play something else in the mean time and stop bitching to people who really could care less if you are happy with your current gaming state.

[dallow]

Am I the only one bored with all of these topics?

It boils down to the same people saying "I had a Wii and sold it" "Hey the only good game is Zelda" "I'll get one when Smash Brothers is out" "VC games suck" and "Hey the Wii has some good games I like it give these games a chance".

Yawn.

The only reason I find this type of thread more interesting than similars ones for PS3, or last year for 360, is because the Wii is such a hot item in stores, even today.

It's a "Water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink" type thing.

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[Walt Jay]

Mine isn't even plugged in anymore. The only reason I still have it is to play GameCube games and Wii bowling with the Mrs.

I got a DS early on too, so I know it's a slow process getting a system up to speed game-wise, but the Wii is sure taking its time! With the Wii selling so well, I hope this doesn't translate to us waiting longer for good games. The thought might be "Well, we're selling out month after month with a piss poor library of games. Let's push back our AAA titles to holiday!!!"

[botticus]

The only reason I find this type of thread more interesting than similars ones for PS3, or last year for 360, is because the Wii is such a hot item in stores, even today.

It's a "Water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink" type thing.

.Nah, I think you just find it more interesting because you agree with it. ;) The fact that it's such a hot item just means people are either stupid when it comes to hype or there are a goodly amount more people happy with it than are bitching about it.

[jollydwarf]

I'm not trying to establish superiority, just being as objective as possible, but I'm pretty confident that by May of last year, the 360 had an overall more diverse and higher-quality line-up of full-length games available. Also, we had a much better idea of what to expect in the second half of '06.

What I'm saying is that yes, the Wii is going through the same post-launch dead period as everyone else, but even with that concession, it's still behind the curve of previous consoles' initial six months. Now if you want to compare it to the PS3....

[dallow]

Nah, I think you just find it more interesting because you agree with it. ;) The fact that it's such a hot item just means people are either stupid when it comes to hype or there are a goodly amount more people happy with it than are bitching about it.

Hehe, not really.
I was actually a bit sad to see all the negativity, which is why I didn't want to add fuel to the fire in my original post.

I really am surprised to see all the negative posts (i don't trust poll results as people can mess with them) but the only person defending the Wii was IO. Just one person.
All the other Nintendo regulars just made a "here we go again" type comment, or something sarcastic.
This even brought out people who I don't see post and write something negative about the Wii.

The games will come, I have no doubt. All the crappy shovelware coming out week after week will be forgotten and in clearance bins by next year. (and some already are)

[lokizz]

I'm starting to hate Nintendo's focus on casual gamer.

And the more they sell, the longer The Great Shortage of 2007 lasts, the more said focus shifts to the Johnny-and-Minivan-Mommy-Come-Latelies. I said it before, much to the delight of many, but firmly believe that when it's all said and done, The Twilight Princess will be the best non-VC, non-Capcom cash-in rehash game released on the Wii. With the Wii being so successful right out of the shoot, this may be the last generation of the 'epic' game...or even the 10-hour one.

It's not just the Wii, mind you. It's some gamers getting older*, having less time, it's gamers getting their Faustian wish fulfilled of gaming becoming commonplace with the masses, it's kids with essentially non-existent attention spans, it's the DS setting the stage for this sort of thing, etc.

Oh, yeah, and..."Sliiiimmm Pickinnnnsss!" (http://media.1up.com/media?id=3245822&type=lg) No good reason, just contractually obligated to say it once a week.

*--No, really, we're at a unique point in gaming, where the bulk of people that grew up with the 2600-NES era are now well into their careers and/or family life. That hasn't really been a prominent issue until now, and one can only arrest their development for so long.

yeah when gaming became the cool thing to do it started to get ugly in the gaming world. its never gonna stop most real , hardcore or old school gamers from playing but all this lame mini game poorly crafted franchise exploiting bullshit they keep tossing out can be so dissappointing. its good that there are 3 systems because if you own at least 2 you can ag out of some of the better titles and suprise titles while wading through the occasional crap title while avoind all the really shit games.


but if this wii phenomenon keeps up id be curious to see where gaming ( or more specifically nintendo gaming ) goes. i dont think epic gaming will dissappear on the other systems as long as they survive but each system has an agenda as far as who theyre targeting and what kinds of games they want to be known for. with certain games goign cross platform the diff is kind of fading but thankfully the systems have their go to games and are coming up with more but now that casual gaming is shown to be lucrative whose to say whats going to happen on the horizon.

[io]

Hey, dallow, don't count me in as a diehard Nintendo fan just because I'm the only one on here defending them. After all, I just bought one of those damn Elite's :rofl:. Plus I expect plenty of mileage out of my trusty old PS2 this year as well.

However, looking at the release schedule for the rest of the year, I see the Wii and 360 as having comparable amounts of titles that I want. The Wii is probably slightly ahead (IF, and it's a big IF, they actually deliver on their promise of SSBB, Mario Galaxy, and Metroid all this year - which is unlikely but you never know). That is, I anticipate getting 2-3 new release 360 games (probably Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, and whatever that other RPG was that I can't think of now) while waiting on the bargain bin for several others. For the Wii I am definitely getting Mario Party 8, Metroid, SSBB, and Mario Galaxy. I'm taking a wait and see attitude on NiGHTS, Strikers, DQ Swords, Batallion Wars 2 (if that gets released this year), and a few others (and I expect some sleeper titles to come out this Fall once third party devs play catchup with the Wii's success). And of course there's a host of games waiting for bargain-bin status there as well.

And, no, except for Metroid, I have no interest in any FPS games, so that is what evens the score for me on the 360 vs Wii. It is only because MS has made some effort to expand beyond shooters/sports/racing games that I even considered getting a 360. I do have one AAA title to pick up for the 360 - Oblivion. But in addition to the bargain-bin fodder I've already picked up that's the only game out so far that I really had to have. And at this point I'm waiting for a price drop/GotY edition to come out.

And Jollydwarf - there is another "epic", way-more-than-10 hour game out for the Wii recently - Super Paper Mario. While not epic in the cinematic sense, it is definitely not a short game (like many high-priced games on the 360 are, I might add).

[botticus]

Hehe, not really.
I was actually a bit sad to see all the negativity, which is why I didn't want to add fuel to the fire in my original post.

I really am surprised to see all the negative posts (i don't trust poll results as people can mess with them) but the only person defending the Wii was IO. Just one person.
All the other Nintendo regulars just made a "here we go again" type comment, or something sarcastic.
This even brought out people who I don't see post and write something negative about the Wii.

The games will come, I have no doubt. All the crappy shovelware coming out week after week will be forgotten and in clearance bins by next year. (and some already are)The only way to defend it is to say "but this game, this game, and this game are all really good," which is usually met with "yeah, I hate those games." So it all comes back to, if you paid no attention to what kind of games were coming down the pipeline, and expected all these games targeted directly at you to be announced out of nowhere (within the first six months), you're obviously set up for disappointment.

Not to mention the minigame argument can be disproven with concrete numbers, but that's always ignored in threads such as this.

[sarausagi]

I'm starting to hate Nintendo's focus on casual gamer.

And the more they sell, the longer The Great Shortage of 2007 lasts, the more said focus shifts to the Johnny-and-Minivan-Mommy-Come-Latelies. I said it before, much to the delight of many, but firmly believe that when it's all said and done, The Twilight Princess will be the best non-VC, non-Capcom cash-in rehash game released on the Wii. With the Wii being so successful right out of the shoot, this may be the last generation of the 'epic' game...or even the 10-hour one.

It's not just the Wii, mind you. It's some gamers getting older*, having less time, it's gamers getting their Faustian wish fulfilled of gaming becoming commonplace with the masses, it's kids with essentially non-existent attention spans, it's the DS setting the stage for this sort of thing, etc.

Oh, yeah, and..."Sliiiimmm Pickinnnnsss!" (http://media.1up.com/media?id=3245822&type=lg) No good reason, just contractually obligated to say it once a week.

*--No, really, we're at a unique point in gaming, where the bulk of people that grew up with the 2600-NES era are now well into their careers and/or family life. That hasn't really been a prominent issue until now, and one can only arrest their development for so long.

How very true, the fact that even the "epic" games these days only last about 20 hours, the decline of RPG's into NiS budget titles, and the death of the arcade are all proof of this. One thing is obvious, Nintendo has capitalized on this: 17 of the top 30 games in Japan are for Nintendo hardware, and it's obvious how things stand in the US at least in terms of hardware sales.

As for the 2600/NES era generation? I realize they're "well into their careers or family", but doesn't that just make it seem like gaming is not a true media? Somehow, married couples, parents, careermen, still find time to watch the hottest sitcom or prime time drama, still make it out to the movie theatre, all while manage to fit in work, daily life, and even sex. Yet from the way some people make it seem, people get married or pregnant and forget gaming as a whole?

Which brings it back over here, I think in fact, what really will definie gaming is the SNES/Genesis era. Simply said, I think it is pretty obvious the SNES/Genesis era is still playing games, and doesn't look like we will stop playing games. In other words, perhaps, gaming will be "media" and will be a mainstream industry, as long as we [SNES/Genesis era gamers and beyond] keep playing games.

2600/NES gamers grew up in a different world, and to be honest, their games are completely different: score based, twitch/reflex oriented, shorter lived games. On the other hand, we experienced full blown characters/mascots, complex story lines, better writing [look at the scripts for NES games] and more intricate gameplay. You can parallel 2600/NES games to Wii/DS games really...I can see lots of new "DS/Wii" gamers growing out of gaming just like the 2600/NES crowd

[dallow]

The only way to defend it is to say "but this game, this game, and this game are all really good," which is usually met with "yeah, I hate those games." So it all comes back to, if you paid no attention to what kind of games were coming down the pipeline, and expected all these games targeted directly at you to be announced out of nowhere (within the first six months), you're obviously set up for disappointment.

Not to mention the minigame argument can be disproven with concrete numbers, but that's always ignored in threads such as this.

I was just expecting a few more people to simply say, "Hey, I'm enjoying it very much."
And no one really did.
Save for early fun with Zelda and Mario.

I think what annoys me more is seeing all these crappy games for the Wii being released every week.
I always see something in the store I had no idea was coming out, and for good reason.


And IO, I agree, if we see all these titles released this year, then the Wii will see the most use and have a great ending to the year.

[omgu8myrice]

the poll results are interesting..most people who say they are getting bored are ppl with another system i.e a 360 or ps3. i guess the ppl that just have the wii have nothing else to play (or compare the wii to) and therefore say the wii is not boring.

[botticus]

I'm enjoying the Wii quite a bit. While it is now splitting time with my new PS2/RPG-machine, Super Paper Mario is a somewhat slow, but fun follow-up to Zelda. Trauma Center still awaits completion on my shelf, I'll get back to it eventually. In addition, Godfather was excellent when I rented it - I will be grabbing that, and rebuying Red Steel and Rayman in the bargain bin with Excite Truck, along with a few new purchases in the coming months.

How's that? ;)


And sarausagi, what you're missing is that movies are short, and generally a lot more sociable. And passive. You can do other things while watching a movie, more of your friends watch movies than play games (in the general sense). Which is why games are headed that way - mass market = more easily consumed and shared. You're never going to see the end of epic games, because people will still want to make epic games, and people will still want to buy epic games. Will they remain the multimillion sellers they are now? Maybe, maybe not. But as NIS and Atlus have shown, for example, they don't need to be. I still absolutely love RPGs, always have, always will. But it takes me a month minimum to finish a 40-hour RPG now. So while it's fun, it's not nearly as convenient.

[VanillaGorilla]

How long can the Nintendo fanboys say "Wait until Smash Brothers!"

But in all seriousness, I want one.

[judyjudyjudy]

I was just expecting a few more people to simply say, "Hey, I'm enjoying it very much."I think I'm very much in the same vein as botticus. The arguments/responses are always the same. For the record, I'm very much enjoying the Wii still (and after the recent EA releases, really excited about third parties), tho I really need a break from the damn thing because I really overdid it with Super Paper Mario over the weekend :P

the poll results are interesting..most people who say they are getting bored are ppl with another system i.e a 360 or ps3. i guess the ppl that just have the wii have nothing else to play (or compare the wii to) and therefore say the wii is not boring.I don't see how that's a fair assessment, since there's no separation of who has or doesn't have another next-gen console in the choice for people enjoying their Wiis.

[dallow]

It's too late now guys! ;)

[schuerm26]

Not dissapointed in the least. Zelda was great. Rayman was great. Trauma Center was great. The Godfather is great. The Bigs comes out in 1 month. Assuming they do the controls correctly that should take up my video game time for god knows how long. There really isn't any reason to expect messed up controls on The Bigs either as the Wii is ready made for Baseball.

All in all I am having much more fun with the Wii than I have had with any system since NFL 2k came out on the dreamcast

[gunm]

ehh its just a dry spell come this fall, things will pick up

Yeah, I agree. There's a bunch of stuff in the pipe that looks good and I'm gonna have to get.

For now, SPM is fun. I just have a crap load of other games to play on a number of different systems old and new. So in a way, I'm glad there's not much on Wii right now.

[dallow]

Not dissapointed in the least. Zelda was great. Rayman was great. Trauma Center was great. The Godfather is great. The Bigs comes out in 1 month. Assuming they do the controls correctly that should take up my video game time for god knows how long. There really isn't any reason to expect messed up controls on The Bigs either as the Wii is ready made for Baseball.

All in all I am having much more fun with the Wii than I have had with any system since NFL 2k came out on the dreamcast

You are very special then my friend. And a coveted Dreamcast comparison, damn. You must be in love.

Dreamcast is still my fave launch in terms of 'fun-ness'.
Wii and PS3 are at the bottom, but I expected that from the PS3, not the Wii.

[io]

Which brings it back over here, I think in fact, what really will definie gaming is the SNES/Genesis era. Simply said, I think it is pretty obvious the SNES/Genesis era is still playing games, and doesn't look like we will stop playing games. In other words, perhaps, gaming will be "media" and will be a mainstream industry, as long as we [SNES/Genesis era gamers and beyond] keep playing games.

2600/NES gamers grew up in a different world, and to be honest, their games are completely different: score based, twitch/reflex oriented, shorter lived games. On the other hand, we experienced full blown characters/mascots, complex story lines, better writing [look at the scripts for NES games] and more intricate gameplay. You can parallel 2600/NES games to Wii/DS games really...I can see lots of new "DS/Wii" gamers growing out of gaming just like the 2600/NES crowd

Speculation heaped on top of shaky premises, congrats. :applause:

Besides, don't lump the 2600 and NES gens together... I was a 2600 kid and grew out of gaming by the time the NES hit. I was tired of the twitch gaming and moved over to computers by that time (Note - not out of GAMING as you claim, just out of console gaming). I liked to be able to save progress ;). However, I just came back into the consoles with the last gen (mostly with the Gamecube, for which I still have a huge backlog - plenty of games there despite what you hear on CAG).

So here I am, an "older" gamer (at least by CAG standards) and I only got BACK into console gaming because it became more "epic" (however that is defined - I mean longer, story-driven games). It should be noted that most of what people think is the hotness on the 360 and PS3 I consider to be new fangled fancy-assed graphics versions of the same "twitch" gaming I grew out of (and that you claim the SNES/Genesis crowd is so much more sophisticated for not being part of that). I'm talking most fighting games, shooters, etc... Yeah, they added the ability to save, but basically it's the same type of thing.

So, anyway, point is we can argue circles around each other and come to completely different conclusions using the same base data. The only reason I jumped into this is I get sick of hearing people say there's nothing for the Wii to play out now and/or coming out this year (when both seem patently false to me). I'm also sick of the "minigame-fest" comments but Botticus nailed that one already.

[trq]

What I'd like to know is how many games you people have time for. Between Wii Sports, Zelda, Red Steel (yes, I know it was mediocre at best), Rayman, Sonic, and Super Paper Mario, I've gotten plenty of use out of my system. Yes, I've been also been playing Gears of War, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, and Oblivion on my 360, which I got at almost the exact same time, but seriously.

Then again, what do I know? I'm stupid enough to contribute to the nine millionth thread about the exact same topic, with all the exact same posters, making all the exact same arguments.

[io]

What I'd like to know is how many games you people have time for. Between Wii Sports, Zelda, Red Steel (yes, I know it was mediocre at best), Rayman, Sonic, and Super Paper Mario, I've gotten plenty of use out of my system. Yes, I've been also been playing Gears of War, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, and Oblivion on my 360, which I got at almost the exact same time, but seriously.

Then again, what do I know? I'm stupid enough to contribute to the nine millionth thread about the exact same topic, with all the exact same posters, making all the exact same arguments.

I hear you. This is why I have a Wii backlog - quite the opposite from nothing to play. Besides just getting a 360, I'm miles behind on my PS2 RPG and DS backlog. So, yeah, even if it were true that nothing was coming out on the Wii all this year, I'd be fine with that as I don't have time for them all. In fact, I have to say, I hope 1 or 2 of the big 3 Nintendo franchises DO get delayed into 2008 just so I have time to catch up. But then we'd never hear the end of it from the jollydwarf types :lol:.

[beeporama]

I've got a few friends who, almost every time they come over, we have a few beers and play Wii Sports. It's shallow but amazingly fun.

Other than that, it's mostly just a GameCube with component inputs. I'm playing Resident Evil now. Next on the system will be Super Paper Mario. Once I stopped expecting it to revolutionize the way I play games, I could relax and enjoy it.

I got a launch PS2 and it was little more than a combo PS1/DVD player for about a year. Now, after it's ostensibly obsolete, I'm still getting amazing games for it. I'm patient for the Wii games to start hitting later. So I guess I'm bored with it now, but I expect my interest to come back.

[SilverPaw750]

Nope, I play mine a whole lot. I beat Zelda, then got Warioware, and then got Super Paper Mario when I beat that. Now I'm working on Super Castlevania IV and the Bonk games, and I'll probably download Star Fox 64 and Zelda:LTTP and play those too.

But it is going through a dry spell...ALL the consoles are right now. I haven't bought a new game (besides SOTN) for my 360 since November.

[yukine]

Nope, I've actually only been playing the Wii lately.

[zman73]

Nope, I've actually only been playing the Wii lately.

Same here, my replacement PS3 came with a crapped out controller so Im waiting on that to be returned, and Ive played 360 sporadically... but most of my time in recent weeks has been spent at the gym

[PawnTakesKing]

I've noticed that the majority of people who post in this thread are the ones not enjoying the Wii, and yet the poll (at this moment) shows a majority of 35% who responded "No, I love my Wii." Makes me wonder why more of them didn't post. I know I'm one of the 35%, so where's everyone else?

[jlseal]

I've noticed that the majority of people who post in this thread are the ones not enjoying the Wii, and yet the poll (at this moment) shows a majority of 35% who responded "No, I love my Wii." Makes me wonder why more of them didn't post. I know I'm one of the 35%, so where's everyone else?

I love mine. I need to get it hooked up from where I moved back home, but Tiger Woods is going down, like a clown, when I do.

Like it or not, there is a drought. Add in that Nintendo's target market this round doesn't completely overlap with the 360/PS3's market and that can make the drought seem bigger/more severe.

[Rodimus]

I was bored for a while but then Super Paper Mario came out and now I'm a happy puppy. Plus playing Splatter house drunk is fun :beer:

Also I go on Youtube from the Internet Channel and watch some MST3K and old Captian N episodes from my TV. I scale the page down a bit and it's great! Almost like On Demand!!!

[drfunk85]

I don't really have enough time for the Wii as it is. I mean, it's not like I'm super busy, but gaming isn't a priority in life for me, it's just something I do when there's nothing else to do, or when I feel like a game with some friends.

I beat Trauma Center (basically over winter break), I almost beat Rayman, I've played a good amount of Wii Sports/Play, I'm about halfway through Red Steel and that's about it. I have Zelda but it's still in the original wrapping. I haven't had the desire to start something that big. I play some VC games
occasionally (mostly multiplayer stuff). I'm waiting for Mario Party and Strikers. Those will probably get the most use out of the systerm for me.

[cochesecochese]

I'm a touch bored with it but a lot of that is my own fault. I should have just sucked it up and bought a J unit at launch so I could be playing all the damn JPN games. I think I will trade within the year.

[VipFREAK]

First thing I thought of when I saw this thread is. What did you all break all your stuff already with your Wiimotes? lolz Oh man... I gotta go see wii (still) have a problem.com lmao

[daroga]

As someone who has responsibilites that don't allow for "sitting on the couch playing games for 8 hours a day" the Wii is great. I don't have time to play 25 games a month. Do you?

Zelda, Wii Sports, Sonic, and Super Paper Mario have netted me probably over 100 hours of gaming that I've whole-heartily enjoyed (to say nothing of the games I played but didn't dig as much--Wario Ware, Trauma Center, Elebits, etc.). I can't complain with that at all. It's a great system with a lot of potential and I'm anzious to see what will come of it once companies stop just doing the same crap with the Wii and make some new experiences to use the controls well.

Every comparison between the DS and the Wii is spot-on. A year or so of some quality titles, but most just being gimmicy touch-screen demos. I'm thinking sometime this summer or by Christmas, the floodgates of amazing games from Nintendo and others will be opened.

[DREDD2912]

I play my 360 more. My kids play the Wii a lot so I don't regret buying it.

[soonersfan60]

I've noticed that the majority of people who post in this thread are the ones not enjoying the Wii, and yet the poll (at this moment) shows a majority of 35% who responded "No, I love my Wii." Makes me wonder why more of them didn't post. I know I'm one of the 35%, so where's everyone else?

Not much time for gaming, even less time for posting, but clicking a survey radio button was fast and painless. ;)

Seriously, though, I love my Wii, but didn't see the need to defend my purchase to people who don't want to be convinced. And it's the usual suspects posting on both sides in this thread.

Wii is my favorite system right now (I just can't get into all the FPS that are out on 360). Wii is definitely a fun and unique experience. The controller is awesome for Madden and great for Zelda, plus I like that Nintendo did Super Paper Mario the traditional way (although I realize it was a GC crossover). The controls are a little annoying for a few games, but I'm sure it will be like the DS and eventually companies will learn to only use the "unique" controls when it enhances a game.

For Wii, I have Zelda, Excite Truck, Super Monkey Ball, Madden, Sonic, Paper Mario, Wii Play and Wii Sports. I have already pre-ordered Mario Party 8 and will definitely get the big three when they come out this year (Galaxy, Prime, and Brawl !). Most excited for Brawl, and will probably also get One Piece Unlimited, Guitar Hero, and a few other games when they come out; plus I still want Elebits and probably Metal Slug. For the VC, I have downloaded Kirby only so far, but will get Battle Lode Runner (probably this weekend), maybe Punch Out, and Solomon's Key definitely at some point. (I don't need too many VC games because I still have my N64 hooked up with tons of games for it, and I also have the Gameboy Player with many of those NES games on GBA carts--including Kid Icarus.) There is such a variety of games out for Wii--way more than PS3--people are just looking for reasons to complain. Sure, I'd love more games, but the variety and number of games available is quite impressive, even if you don't like all of the genres that are out.

[benjamouth]

Also I go on Youtube from the Internet Channel and watch some MST3K and old Captian N episodes from my TV. I scale the page down a bit and it's great! Almost like On Demand!!!

Good call, nothing like a bit of MST3K on the Wii browser, being able to watch YouTube videos on my telly was a big plus for me when buying a Wii.

It's true there's not as many good games out on Wii as there is for other consoles, but for me Ninty has always been a quality over quantity company and I can totally live with that.

[lordxixor101]

For those that aren't that thrilled with your Wii so far, I really wonder, what were you expecting (or did you not think 6 months ahead on your purchase).

For a long time here, it takes about a year to get your games flowing for a new system. Honestly, I think between Paper Mario now and some solid launch titles, you really have a decent amount out for this stage of the game). Not only this, but Nintendo has never been strong on the number of titles. Nintendo sells on their exclusives, but with the N64, Cube, and probably Wii also, if you are going to game often, you won't live on just a Wii.

If you get to this time next year and you aren't happy, then a poll is just fine. Still, I don't think it's even fair to judge how many games will be out on the Wiil until you start seeing what sort of fourth quarter releases there will be.

[schuerm26]

I've noticed that the majority of people who post in this thread are the ones not enjoying the Wii, and yet the poll (at this moment) shows a majority of 35% who responded "No, I love my Wii." Makes me wonder why more of them didn't post. I know I'm one of the 35%, so where's everyone else?

It's just like any news show, the people that are happy don't feel the need to post, so the complainers who do feel the need always get the headlines.

[Reality's Fringe]

I started Super Paper Mario last night and it's pretty awesome.

...Just thought I'd throw that in there.