XBLA - SEGA Vintage Collection - SONIC and Golden Axe

[LinkinPrime]

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Update 7/10: Sonic and Golden Axe rumored to be the games of tomorrow:
We've got a double whammy of Xbox Live Arcade news today. First of all, the achievements (http://news.mygamercard.net/2007/07/10/chaos-cockatrices-deliver-sonic-and-golden-axe-achievements/) for both Sonic the Hedgehog (http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/tag/SonictheHedgehog/) and Golden Axe (http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/tag/GoldenAxe/) have been uncovered. This has in turn spurred the rumor (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31768) that Microsoft will unveil Golden Axe as tomorrow's XBLA release. Some are comparing this to last year's surprise release of DOOM during X06. Golden Axe is definitely a classic title, but we were hoping for something a little more exciting, like, say, Marathon. (http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/tag/Marathon/) At any rate, we at least have confirmation of one more Sega classic on XBLA. Take that for what it's worth.

Read (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31768) -- Golden Axe coming this week
Read (http://news.mygamercard.net/2007/07/10/chaos-cockatrices-deliver-sonic-and-golden-axe-achievements/) -- Sonic and Golden Axe achievements

Golden Axe - 12 Total Achievements worth 200 GamerScore
Cockatrice - 5 GS
Ride the cockatrice
Omni Character - 10 GS
Play as every character
Turtle Village - 10 GS
Choose any character and reach Turtle Village (Stage 3) without dying once
Amazon Magic - 10 GS
Perform the Level 6 magic attack with the Amazon
Dwarf Magic - 10 GS
Perform the Level 3 magic attack with the Dwarf
Barbarian Magic - 10 GS
Perform the Level 4 magic attack with the Barbarian
Potion - 15 GS
Collect three potions from a thief or party of thieves
Survivor - 20 GS
Choose any character and reach “Across the Sea” (Stage 5) without dying once
Co-op Win - 15 GS
Beat the game in local Co-op mode
Online Co-op - 10 GS
Complete an online co-op game
Win - 35 GS
Beat the game
Perfect Win - 50 GS
Beat the game without continuing Sonic the Hedgehog - 12 Total Achievements worth 200 GamerScore
Centurion - 10 GS
Get 100 or more rings
Clear Green - 5 GS
Clear the Green Hill Zone
Fast Green - 10 GS
Beat Green Hill Zone Act 1 in under 35 seconds
Fast Marble - 15 GS
Beat Marble Zone Act 1 in under 80 seconds
Star Light Zone - 5 GS
Get to the Star Light Zone
Spring Yard Zone - 7 GS
Get to the Spring Yard Zone
Labyrinth Zone - 8 GS
Get to the Labyrinth Zone
Chaos Emerald - 10 GS
Get one Chaos Emerald
Chaos Master - 35 GS
Get all the Chaos Emeralds
Win - 25 GS
Beat the game
Fast Win - 30 GS
Beat the game in under 40 minutes
Perfect Win - 40 GS
Beat the game without dying http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/07/10/sonic-golden-axe-achievements-ga-this-week/

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So its been a couple years since we heard that Sonic The Hedgehog was coming to XBLA and haven't heard anything since...till now:

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6118/sonic001hd3.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sonic001hd3.jpg)

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/3531/sonic002sq6.th.jpg (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sonic002sq6.jpg)

SMOOTHING ON:
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8140/sonic004fc6.th.jpg (http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sonic004fc6.jpg)

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/4103/sonic003eh1.th.jpg (http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sonic003eh1.jpg)

SMOOTHING OFF:
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2175/sonic006sn2.th.jpg (http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sonic006sn2.jpg)

http://www.segaonline.nl/news.php?news_id=489
http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/05/09/finally-some-sonic-and-sega-xbla-details/

Unfortunately there's no ETA, but the fact that they started a "Vintage Collection" means that we might get more than just Sonic.

[doubledown]

Sweet, vintage SEGA...that is good news. Although, lately my vintage games has not held up well to me...but, still GREAT news.

[BustaUppa]

Ohhhh at first I thought "collection" meant some sort of bundle. Still, this could yield some sweet results.

[terribledeli]

Interesting. I was just complaining about this the other day. Hopefully Gain Ground is on the list soon.

[captmurphy]

I could go for some Vectorman on XBLA...

[LinkinPrime]

I could go for some Vectorman on XBLA...

That's the one Genesis title that I always wanted to try but for some reason never purchased. I was young and stupid back then...

[Moose_Man]

Sweet!!!

[Weedy649]

Ohhhh at first I thought "collection" meant some sort of bundle. Still, this could yield some sweet results.

I thought the same thing! lol

For 400 points a piece id drop the points for any of these though. I think i see columns in our future :-p

This is a good sign for sure though, especially since M$ has been stepping their game up and releasing more than one title on some weeks.

Edit:

Does this game include "enhanced graphics"? I think so. If you look at the screen shots some say smoothing on and some say smoothing off. The ones with smoothing on look better than the other screen shots.

[Chacrana]

So this is... essentially going to be Sega Genesis Collection where we buy each game for $5? Pass.

[Weedy649]

I dunno chacrana, i think the $5 cost would justify some purchases.

$8 for a sega game port on the Wii. $5 for a port with leaderboards, achievements, enhanced graphics, and online play(for multiplayer games).

If they get some games like Streets of Rage on there, then ill be very very excited.

[Chacrana]

Eh, I suppose it would depend on whether or not you care about leaderboards... personally, I don't think that or graphical filters are all that appealing and definitely not enough to make me buy one of these when there's already multiple Sega compilations which have extras that are arguably more interesting than leaderboards.

[LinkinPrime]

Edit:

Does this game include "enhanced graphics"? I think so. If you look at the screen shots some say smoothing on and some say smoothing off. The ones with smoothing on look better than the other screen shots.

I just noticed that, thanks for mentioning it. They do look a little better. Added "smothing on/off" pics to the OP.

[CAG 79]

I already have Sonic Mega Collection so I could use some Streets of Rage instead.

[JJSP]

Please get rid of Sonic 1 and give us Sonic 2.

Followed by Streets Of Rage 2, Toe Jam & Earl, and Kid Chameleon.

[BelieveTheHype]

maybe this'll make up for that new sonic game that came out awhile back

[Brak]

Give me Kid Chameleon, dammit!

[doubledown]

So this is... essentially going to be Sega Genesis Collection where we buy each game for $5? Pass.

Yeah, I think some are worth an individual purchase....thus you can pick and choose what you want. Although, I see what you are saying...for $20 you get them all.

Although, maybe some people only want two games, so $10 would be ok. I recently played the EA Replay collection, and I only like a few games.

[mykevermin]

So this is... essentially going to be Sega Genesis Collection where we buy each game for $5? Pass.

It's almost like you no longer need a Wii to overpay for old games!

Achievement whores will eat this up like last night's cold, wet pizza.

[benjamouth]

Achievement whores will eat this up like last night's cold, wet pizza.

Only the rich ones, I'm a bit of an Achievemet Whore but I already have the Sega Genesis collection and have no intention of buying those games again seperately, achievements or not.

[AshesofWake]

VECTORMAN MAYBE???? *esplodes*

[seanr1221]

Unless Sega puts out some of its multiplayer games with live play, I'll stick with the genesis collection.

[Apossum]

Way to diversify the retro releases sega.

[MrBadExample]

Three words:

Online. Multiplayer. ToeJam&Earl.

[RAMSTORIA]

i dont care much for sonic on xbla since its a 1 player game, now if some streets of rage came out...

[Walt Jay]

Herzog Zwei online multiplayer. DO IT!!!

[willardhaven]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Genesis_Collection

[Mr. Anderson]

I'd be down for certain XBLA Genesis games. I'm an acheivement whore to the core, and leaderboards are sweet as well. If these come out at 400 points a pop, you can count me in. Well played, Sega. Well played.

[shrike4242]

Between the Sonic Mega Collection, the Sonic Gems collection and the Sega Genesis collection, I think I should have them all covered. :-s

[plastikpyro]

Shinobi 3, Shadow Dancer and Street of Rage 2 would make for an awesome collection.

[CaseyRyback]

How about Virtua Fighter 2 with online play? That is about the only title I can see myself paying for (maybe a good beat em up as well, but as a lot of people have said, most of the games have been covered several times over in different packages available on last gen consoles).

[sp00ge]

Meh... If I want to play Sonic, I'll turn on my Genesis 3. I have sonic 1-3, spinball and 3d blast currently.

[terribledeli]

I'm willing to bet we'll see more than just Genesis games. Sega could be tossing up all kinds of old crap. I'd be shocked, literally shocked if Fantasy Zone doesn't show up in some regard.

[Viva Las Vegas]

CHU CHU ROCKET!!! Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Callandor]

Shining Force 2 would be nice. Or, you know, maybe a translated Shining Force 3...

Hell, Phantasy Star IV would be killer.

[graf1k]

Streets of Rage 2 w/ Co-Op or bust, goddamn it!

[Kendro]

I hope by Vintage Collection they mean an actual collection of X amount of games rather than it just meaning a special "line" of games (like Greatest Hits, Player's Choice, Classic NES Series). For example, on GBA we had the Classic NES Series which wasn't a series of games on one cartridge, every classic game was simply a part of a special "line" of games.

[Thomas96]

ohhh I love it but where the HELL is Streets of Rage 1, 2, and 3!

[Chuplayer]

CHU CHU ROCKET!!! Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

XBLA needs this. Chu Chu Rocket is ny namesake. My first online game. One of the best online community interfaces ever.

[Graystone]

I'll buy sonic for $5 maybe.

[StayOnTarget]

CHU CHU ROCKET!!! Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with this. I hope Sega hasn't given up on Chu Chu Rocket; one of my favorite Dreamcast and GBA games.

[A Happy Panda]

Fake?

http://kotaku.com/gaming/phony/rumor-smash-sega-vintage-screens-259189.php

[lordxixor101]

2 games could come up that I'd jump at in a heartbeat.

Nights: I still dig out my Saturn to play this, but enhance the graphics a bit and charge 800 points, and I'm all over it (release it around Christmas, and add Christmas Nights to it for free).

Panzer Dragoon Saga: Dammit, I don't care if there some sort of contractual issue, this is a game that never got a full releas in the US. This is a game scraming for a rerelease. I imported this game (called Panzer Dragoon Azel in Japan), and tried getting through it. It was ruined just having to guess what everything was (try healing yourself when you have no idea what any of the items say). Name any reasonable price, I'll pay for this.

[Monsta Mack]

So much for looking for Sonic Gems. At this rate maybe we'll see another edition of Sonic CD,aka the only Sonic game I'll fully play right now.

[LinkinPrime]

Ecco and Sonic Show up on ESRB:

May 15, 2007 - The latest list of games which have been submitted for rating to the Entertainment Software Ratings Board (ESRB) includes both Ecco the Dolphin and Sonic the Hedgehog for the Xbox 360. This gives credence to recent evidence (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/787/787038p1.html) that SEGA is planning to release classic games from its catalog on the 360 as part of a "SEGA Vintage Collection," starting with Sonic the Hedgehog. Sonic was on display running on the 360 at E3 last year, but has since dropped off the radar.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/788/788423p1.html?RSSwhen2007-05-15_101000&RSSid=788423

[velvet396]

"all the rights move" just doesn't look legit...

[LinkinPrime]

More Hedgehog goodness...

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3994/sonic2esrbih6.th.jpg (http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/06/07/sonic-2-speeding-to-xbla-says-esrb/)

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/search.jsp?titleOrPublisher=sonic+2&searchType=title&rating=&ratingsCriteria=&platforms=&platformsCriteria=&javaScript=0&searchVersion=compact&content=&searchType=title&contentCriteria=&newSearch.x=31&newSearch.y=15

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/06/07/sonic-2-speeding-to-xbla-says-esrb/

[lilboo]

2 Player vs...?

Is that..new? :-s
I don't remember that.. I remember being able to be Sonic, or Tails, or Sonic and Player 2 being Tails ...

And BTW, Sonic 2 FTW

[Sarang01]

Ehhh give me Dragon Force 1 and 2.

[glockant]

give me BOOGERMAN!

[diaeresis]

2 Player vs...?

Is that..new? :-s
I don't remember that.. I remember being able to be Sonic, or Tails, or Sonic and Player 2 being Tails ...

And BTW, Sonic 2 FTW

No, it was in the original. I forgot about it too until I played through the Sega Genesis Collection with a friend. If you try it you'll probably remember it immediately.

Considering that Sonic 1 & 2 and Vectorman have been rereleased or hidden in a Sega collection about every two weeks for the past three years, it's kinda hard to get uppity over these ... Streets of Rage would justly have everyone pissing themselves. Games like Shining in the Darkness, Third World War, and Dark Wizard would be unreal, and releasing Eternal Champions: The Final Chapter would have me buy a 360 just for it - though I'd be tempted by Challenge from the Dark Side. The 16-bit era had great hits, but it was the mildly overlooked titles that made it so memorable.

[Maklershed]

Would this mean there's a possibility of Altered Beast?

[CocheseUGA]

"all the rights move" just doesn't look legit...

I'm glad someone else caught that.

I won't pay for it, no matter how cheap, if it doesn't let you save mid-level. That's where Wii really wins for me.

[velvet396]

2 Player vs...?

Is that..new? :-s
I don't remember that.. I remember being able to be Sonic, or Tails, or Sonic and Player 2 being Tails ...

And BTW, Sonic 2 FTW
I'm sorry, but man did you miss out on one awesome aspect of the game!!
Everyone in my family played Sonic 2 vs.! It was fun. You compete in four levels, split screen race to the end, scoring points for item boxes, rings total, rings you end with, and who finishes first - scoring one point for each category you win. So if the other person blazes past the finish before you do, use every last second of your time trying to get more item boxes and rings.

IF THIS EVEN EXISTS - I'll get it if it has live multiplayer.:bouncy:

I would kill for the vintage collection, but like I said before some elements of it don't seem right. Perhaps we'll just get a game or two every once in a while, nickel & dime us...

[lilboo]

I'm sorry, but man did you miss out on one awesome aspect of the game!!
Everyone in my family played Sonic 2 vs.! It was fun. You compete in four levels, split screen race to the end, scoring points for item boxes, rings total, rings you end with, and who finishes first - scoring one point for each category you win. So if the other person blazes past the finish before you do, use every last second of your time trying to get more item boxes and rings.

IF THIS EVEN EXISTS - I'll get it if it has live multiplayer.:bouncy:

I would kill for the vintage collection, but like I said before some elements of it don't seem right. Perhaps we'll just get a game or two every once in a while, nickel & dime us...


OOOOOH that!!!

Oh ok. I remember that now!!

[KaneRobot]

Suddenly the Genesis offerings on the VC look even MORE like a huge ripoff. Congrats to Microsoft for accomplishing the impossible.

I'll pick and choose a few titles, probably the Sonic games and SoR games. Castle of Illusion and Spider-Man vs. The Kingpin would be nice, but I don't know if they'd be able to do that because of the Disney/Marvel licenses.

*EDIT* - Also, remastered-for-high-def versions of Thunder Force III & IV would make me shit my pants...into oblivion. I know they aren't for Sega by Sega, but the fact that Technosoft no longer exists may make it possible....

[daroga]

How does this make the VC look to be more if a rip off? Do we know what they're gonna be priced at?

I'd gladly pay $3 more (assuming they're $5 on XBLA) just to use the CC controler with the games. That 360 dpad is pretty awful.

[velvet396]

How does this make the VC look to be more if a rip off? Do we know what they're gonna be priced at?

I'd gladly pay $3 more (assuming they're $5 on XBLA) just to use the CC controler with the games. That 360 dpad is pretty awful.

Exactly - these games aren't out yet, haven't even been confirmed or priced!

Also, what's the "CC controler"? The classic controller controller? ;)

[daroga]

Also, what's the "CC controler"? The classic controller controller? ;)Heck, yes! That dpad is so good it controls x2! ;)

[-Never4ever-]

2 games could come up that I'd jump at in a heartbeat.

Nights: I still dig out my Saturn to play this, but enhance the graphics a bit and charge 800 points, and I'm all over it (release it around Christmas, and add Christmas Nights to it for free).

Panzer Dragoon Saga: Dammit, I don't care if there some sort of contractual issue, this is a game that never got a full releas in the US. This is a game scraming for a rerelease. I imported this game (called Panzer Dragoon Azel in Japan), and tried getting through it. It was ruined just having to guess what everything was (try healing yourself when you have no idea what any of the items say). Name any reasonable price, I'll pay for this.

Honestly, I would easily pay 800 M$ points for both NiGHTS, all they would have to do is add Achievements and I'm sold. Same with Sonic. HELL, they could re-release every Sonic game and I would snatch them all up if they featured achievements.

[KaneRobot]

Not that the VC needs much help to look overpriced in the first place...

These games will be 400 points. No I don't have proof, other than I'm not an idiot and history shows that's what it will likely be. If they aren't, Microsoft is fucking retarded and I won't buy them. Oh well.

The VC prices are ghastly, especially considering what it costs Nintendo to put them on there. The d-pad on the 360 isn't that great, but it's not 3-dollars-per-title worse than the $20 Wii alternative.

You'd gladly pay more for a straight port with nothing extra and no achievements?

[LinkinPrime]

We've got a double whammy of Xbox Live Arcade news today. First of all, the achievements (http://news.mygamercard.net/2007/07/10/chaos-cockatrices-deliver-sonic-and-golden-axe-achievements/) for both Sonic the Hedgehog (http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/tag/SonictheHedgehog/) and Golden Axe (http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/tag/GoldenAxe/) have been uncovered. This has in turn spurred the rumor (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31768) that Microsoft will unveil Golden Axe as tomorrow's XBLA release. Some are comparing this to last year's surprise release of DOOM during X06. Golden Axe is definitely a classic title, but we were hoping for something a little more exciting, like, say, Marathon. (http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/tag/Marathon/) At any rate, we at least have confirmation of one more Sega classic on XBLA. Take that for what it's worth.

Read (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31768) -- Golden Axe coming this week
Read (http://news.mygamercard.net/2007/07/10/chaos-cockatrices-deliver-sonic-and-golden-axe-achievements/) -- Sonic and Golden Axe achievements

Golden Axe - 12 Total Achievements worth 200 GamerScore
Cockatrice - 5 GS
Ride the cockatrice
Omni Character - 10 GS
Play as every character
Turtle Village - 10 GS
Choose any character and reach Turtle Village (Stage 3) without dying once
Amazon Magic - 10 GS
Perform the Level 6 magic attack with the Amazon
Dwarf Magic - 10 GS
Perform the Level 3 magic attack with the Dwarf
Barbarian Magic - 10 GS
Perform the Level 4 magic attack with the Barbarian
Potion - 15 GS
Collect three potions from a thief or party of thieves
Survivor - 20 GS
Choose any character and reach “Across the Sea” (Stage 5) without dying once
Co-op Win - 15 GS
Beat the game in local Co-op mode
Online Co-op - 10 GS
Complete an online co-op game
Win - 35 GS
Beat the game
Perfect Win - 50 GS
Beat the game without continuing Sonic the Hedgehog - 12 Total Achievements worth 200 GamerScore
Centurion - 10 GS
Get 100 or more rings
Clear Green - 5 GS
Clear the Green Hill Zone
Fast Green - 10 GS
Beat Green Hill Zone Act 1 in under 35 seconds
Fast Marble - 15 GS
Beat Marble Zone Act 1 in under 80 seconds
Star Light Zone - 5 GS
Get to the Star Light Zone
Spring Yard Zone - 7 GS
Get to the Spring Yard Zone
Labyrinth Zone - 8 GS
Get to the Labyrinth Zone
Chaos Emerald - 10 GS
Get one Chaos Emerald
Chaos Master - 35 GS
Get all the Chaos Emeralds
Win - 25 GS
Beat the game
Fast Win - 30 GS
Beat the game in under 40 minutes
Perfect Win - 40 GS
Beat the game without dying http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/07/10/sonic-golden-axe-achievements-ga-this-week/

[porieux]

Not that the VC needs much help to look overpriced in the first place...

These games will be 400 points. No I don't have proof, other than I'm not an idiot and history shows that's what it will likely be. If they aren't, Microsoft is fucking retarded and I won't buy them. Oh well.

The VC prices are ghastly, especially considering what it costs Nintendo to put them on there. The d-pad on the 360 isn't that great, but it's not 3-dollars-per-title worse than the $20 Wii alternative.

You'd gladly pay more for a straight port with nothing extra and no achievements?


I'm not going to argue that VC games shouldn't be cheaper, but the horror of the xbox 360 d-pad cannot be overstated. It's pretty much unusable.

Hopefully that VF5 stick will be good but I fear it will not be wireless...

[Apossum]

BIG FAT "meh"

but of course, these games will be hailed as the best games evar for a couple days, as is par with XBL retro releases :-P

[Weedy649]

BIG FAT "meh"

but of course, these games will be hailed as the best games evar for a couple days, as is par with XBL retro releases :-P

I know i cant wait!....thats not sarcastic either im a huge sega gen fan

[Apossum]

I know i cant wait!....thats not sarcastic either im a huge sega gen fan


for any PS2, PS3, or PSP owner, those games are pretty much dead air. achievement whores notwithstanding

[Renegade_Zero]

I wouldn't mind sonic for 400...

[gamcreator]

I'm hoping Sonic gets released tomorrow too. Would be a definite pick up for me!

[GizmoGC]

for any PS2, PS3, or PSP owner, those games are pretty much dead air. achievement whores notwithstanding

Why? Golden Axe on a Sony system has online play?
You must be speaking of the Genesis collection, right?
I have all these games several times over but wil rebuy for online play and achievements.

[Apossum]

Why? Golden Axe on a Sony system has online play?
You must be speaking of the Genesis collection, right?
I have all these games several times over but wil rebuy for online play and achievements.


Thanks for sharing. I was really curious if you were going to rebuy this.

[Weedy649]

for any PS2, PS3, or PSP owner, those games are pretty much dead air. achievement whores notwithstanding

ive been into the psp homebrew scene since the start and its not dead air here. Im not exactly an achievement whore but it does bring a whole new challenge to a game i already like.

[-Never4ever-]

I'm not lying when I say that I can get all 200 pts for Sonic not only in one sitting, in my sleep.

I hope it's the XBLA title tommorow, as I would easily throw down $5 for it.

[akilshohen]

sonic 2 was better, and we should get streets of rage instead of golden axe

[KingBroly]

I'm not throwing down anything for either title if they come out. Me and my Sega Genesis Collection (along with 20+ other titles) will do just fine.

If this is the "BIG" announcement from XBLA, that's very disappointing.

Hoping for Battletoads (They made an Arcade Version)

[Staind204]

I want Bomberman Live, not this crap.

[GizmoGC]

Thanks for sharing. I was really curious if you were going to rebuy this.

Oh, not a problem! I just wanted to make sure you knew since you posed the question on why the Sony owners would have interest in these, and I told you why they would.

[strdr4]

Sonic and Golden axe are online right now.

[GizmoGC]

Sonic and Golden axe are online right now.

How much points?

[Sporadic]

How much points?

400 each

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Only one I am interested in is Golden Axe. I already have all of the Sonics on the Mega Collection.

[GizmoGC]

400 each

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Only one I am interested in is Golden Axe. I already have all of the Sonics on the Mega Collection.

NICE! Was planning on getting 1 now and 1 later...for the price of 1 game I will get both (I assumed they would be 800 points).

[vlv723]

Better than what Wii VC will charge...I will DL once I get off from work (especially the Blue Dragon Demo)

[velvet396]

I tripped over my controller and got four of the Sonic achievements. Their vintage collection menu is by far the best I've encountered on XBLA, slick.

[Logg]

So which is better Sonic or Golden Axe. yes I have played both just wondering which held up better.

[A Happy Panda]

I want Bomberman Live, not this crap.

I wouldn't say crap per se....I enjoyed Golden Axe back in the day, but I think Sonic is the most overrated franchise in videogame history....game absolutely stinks.

But yeah, I really REALLY wanted Bomberman Live today since my cousins and I have been playing Bomberman 93 on the VC a ton as of late.

[eastx]

Sonic stinks? Remind me not to ask for your opinions on 2D platformers any time soon. I'm really excited about both of these titles (supposedly Golden Axe is the arcade version!!).
Bomberman Live will be the next big XBLA hit, but I expect them to announce it at least 2 days in advance, not the night before it's released.

[benjamouth]

If Golden Axe is the Arcade version then I'd be interested, if it's just the Genesis version then not so much.

[Strider Turbulence]

If Golden Axe is the Arcade version then I'd be interested, if it's just the Genesis version then not so much.

It's the arcade version.

[lordwow]

I sure feel like a shmuck buying Sonic for the Wii a while back.

[KaneRobot]

I sure feel like a shmuck buying Sonic for the Wii a while back.
Buying anything outside of Nintendo-based and Turbografx (since I doubt MS would bother) games for the VC isn't worth the risk, to me.

Sonic doesn't suck. It's no Super Mario 3 but it has held up reasonably well. Golden Axe is a decent side-scroller but I'd prefer SoR/2/3. I'm sure we'll see them down the road, so no complaints.

Will probably grab Sonic if I ever get my 360 back.

[Logg]

I got sonic only played it for a few minutes. Good times though.

[LinkinPrime]

Played Sonic last night, that game is great, why can't new Sonic games be this good? I'll give Golden Axe a try tonight.

[seanr1221]

Played both and they're alright, but I think I'll save my money

[benjamouth]

It's the arcade version.

Cool, I'll probably pick it up then, I'm sure I've got the Rom on MAME somewhere so I should probably pay for a legit version.

[PenguinMaster]

Have you people heard of Sonic Mega Collection Plus? Why are you wasting money on Sonic on XBLA?

[velvet396]

Have you people heard of Sonic Mega Collection Plus? Why are you wasting money on Sonic on XBLA?
Achievement whores / impulse buys / nostalgia sufferers / etc., etc.

I have mega collection plus on GC but it's just not the same. The 360's dpad is better than the GC's... :-# omg never thought I'd say the 360's dpad was better than anything!

Oh and I got over 5,000 points free through gaming lagoon. That didn't hurt.

[Cyb3-rr]

I'm sure I'm not the only one, but barring the original games on XBLA, I don't think ANY of the classic games on Wii or XBLA are worth the money. I think the amount of money they get for simple port jobs is ludicris. If they were $2-3 I might bite, but games like golden axe and sonic have been released in countless collections that are probably cheaper than purchasing the games on these services. Aside from that, consider the vast amount of games available through emulation, but I won't talk about that here since people can be rather touchy.

[-Never4ever-]

Oh, not a problem! I just wanted to make sure you knew since you posed the question on why the Sony owners would have interest in these, and I told you why they would.

I'm a Sony owner, AND I have both Sonic Mega Collection+, as well as Sega Genesis Collection and I still ended up getting both. As someone else said, Online play & Achievements easy make it worth $5 a piece. Now if they were exact ports like the VC releases (that are $8, no less), I wouldn't have given it a second thought.

[Lonestar9]

I'm sure I'm not the only one, but barring the original games on XBLA, I don't think ANY of the classic games on Wii or XBLA are worth the money. I think the amount of money they get for simple port jobs is ludicris. If they were $2-3 I might bite, but games like golden axe and sonic have been released in countless collections that are probably cheaper than purchasing the games on these services. Aside from that, consider the vast amount of games available through emulation, but I won't talk about that here since people can be rather touchy.


Ehh...couldn't disagree more, not all classic games are worth it, but some are way worth the price, some are actually enhanced with better graphics, some have online play, and most have achievements that are worth getting.

Emulation is fun too, but I really don't mind paying $5 for a game here and there...

[RudyPants]

Bought Golden Axe last night - short but fun.

I'll throw in my two cents: I like having classic arcade games on XBLA because then I don't have to hook up any systems to play them. Nerd points help, but I'm just too lazy, so paying $5 is okay so I can continue my laziness.

Plus, online play is fun, and it's fun with a friend. Come on people, it's just $5. Don't buy it if you don't want it. No biggie.

[Decker]

I downloaded both demos. They're okay, but as I got that whole Genesis game for the PSP (containing these two and like 40 other titles) for $5 at Best Buy, this seems a little pricey for me. I liked them, but think I'll save my points for Bomberman and Tron games. If I'm feeling nostalgic, there's still Pac-Man CE to buy....

[Apossum]

Oh, not a problem! I just wanted to make sure you knew since you posed the question on why the Sony owners would have interest in these, and I told you why they would.


considering I mentioned "achievement whores" in my original post, I think I already knew, but don't worry, your 360 was a solid investment and no one can take that away from you baby :roll:



anywhoo...gonna check out that Golden Axe demo. I haven't seen the arcade version in years (I remember the genesis version not being quite as nice.)

[BustaUppa]

Did the original Golden Axe support 3 players? Or am just I remembering wrong because there were three different characters?

[shinryuu]

It's only two players, but you're right, three characters.

Just beat the game with a brother. Woohoo. Time for some Sonic..

[Sarang01]

Am I the only one here who would LOVE to get the second arcade "Golden Axe" on XBLA since I've heard NO workable MAME ROM has come about?
edit: Also "Dragon Force" with online play against others would be awesome and pure crack. I pick Junon! :D

[DT778]

Don't know if it's been posted yet but these 3 are expected to be released "shortly" and at 400 points.

Streets of Rage 2 -- Wander the angry streets and defend yourself from generic thugs using whatever means necessary. Pleasingly, the means usually comes in the form of a large pipe.
Ecco the Dolphin -- Explore the oceans and rescue your fishy friends in this completely enchanting and non-sinister game. Oh, and remember to go up for air occasionally... or you'll die an agonizing death.
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 -- The world's fastest and most relevant hedgehog heads off on one of his best adventures with Tails "Miles" Prower in tow. We still giggle about the "miles per hour" bit.link (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/12/sega-announces-vintage-game-collection-for-xbox-live-arcade/)

[eastx]

Golden Axe is terrific. The arcade version has slightly better graphics and dead characters don't disappear from the screen. The optional blurring filter is a cool touch for those who dislike pixels on HD displays. Finally, online play is just too cool! This is the only exact port of the arcade version ever released to a console, to my knowledge.

[benjamouth]

Don't know if it's been posted yet but these 3 are expected to be released "shortly" and at 400 points.

Streets of Rage 2 -- Wander the angry streets and defend yourself from generic thugs using whatever means necessary. Pleasingly, the means usually comes in the form of a large pipe.
Ecco the Dolphin -- Explore the oceans and rescue your fishy friends in this completely enchanting and non-sinister game. Oh, and remember to go up for air occasionally... or you'll die an agonizing death.
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 -- The world's fastest and most relevant hedgehog heads off on one of his best adventures with Tails "Miles" Prower in tow. We still giggle about the "miles per hour" bit. Sweet, glad I didn't bother with SOR2 on VC, will be cheaper on XBLA and have Achievements and hopefully online play.

[Khalid]

Don't know if it's been posted yet but these 3 are expected to be released "shortly" and at 400 points.

Streets of Rage 2 -- Wander the angry streets and defend yourself from generic thugs using whatever means necessary. Pleasingly, the means usually comes in the form of a large pipe.
Ecco the Dolphin -- Explore the oceans and rescue your fishy friends in this completely enchanting and non-sinister game. Oh, and remember to go up for air occasionally... or you'll die an agonizing death.
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 -- The world's fastest and most relevant hedgehog heads off on one of his best adventures with Tails "Miles" Prower in tow. We still giggle about the "miles per hour" bit.link (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/12/sega-announces-vintage-game-collection-for-xbox-live-arcade/)

Nice, good game with great memory.
Bought golden axe and sonic, golden axe only took a hour to finish everything except online achievement.

[akilshohen]

can't wait for SOR2. Does golden Axe have infinite continues? I might buy it based on that.

[RelentlessRolento]

I didn't want sonic since S2 was probably coming out, and now it's confirmed...


I'll get golden axe eventually and then sweeten it with BoR2

[Brak]

Give me SplatterHouse and Kid Chameleon... NOW!

[elwood731]

As much as I love my dear Nintendo, MS is really showing them how to do classic title releases. Can you imagine if all the VC titles had these bonus features? If Contra included both the arcade and home versions, both with online play? I think Nintendo really missed a grand opportunity. Of course, people still buy the games, so I doubt they care.

[smellhasreturned]

I got both due to the SmarterChild incident

Streets of Rage and Sonic 2 count me in.

[Staind204]

Damnit, I hope they release Bomberman Live before SOR2, Ecco, and Sonic 2!

[Damian]

I guess I'm alone in thinking the Golden Axe port is horrible. The controls feel sluggish and inaccurate, it's totally unplayable for me.

[Brak]

I guess I'm alone in thinking the Golden Axe port is horrible. The controls feel sluggish and inaccurate, it's totally unplayable for me.
A lot of people don't like Golden Axe.

I love it, as I have fond memories of playing it on the Genesis. As a fairly early beat-'em-up, I think it still holds up well.

The only set-back is that it could use more variation.

[Damian]

A lot of people don't like Golden Axe.
Oh I like Golden Axe, I played it on my C64 as a kid. I just don't like the port.

[rsigley]

stupid sonic impulse buy

i must of bought this game 10 times by now

[Maklershed]

Hopefully MS releases Altered Beast to the xbla .. put that in a bottle and it would be sweeter than Yoohoo

[Logg]

This was the first time I have ever bought a Sonic game of any kind.

[Strider Turbulence]

Hopefully MS releases Altered Beast to the xbla .. put that in a bottle and it would be sweeter than Yoohoo

I just hope it's arcade version instead of the Genesis one.

[GizmoGC]

I got both due to the SmarterChild incident

Streets of Rage and Sonic 2 count me in.

What incident? Im confused....

[Maklershed]

What incident? Im confused....

Apparently yesterday if you messaged on MSN (?) a bot named Smarterchild it would ask you a few survey questions. After that if you lagged it out by typing "no" over and over it would glitch and give you xbox live point codes. Unfortunately it never worked for me.

[LinkinPrime]

Apparently yesterday if you messaged on MSN (?) a bot named Smarterchild it would ask you a few survey questions. After that if you lagged it out by typing "no" over and over it would glitch and give you xbox live point codes. Unfortunately it never worked for me.

WTF! How come I didn't hear of this? So did it keep giving you points over and over and over or was it like a one time thing?

[Maklershed]

WTF! How come I didn't hear of this? So did it keep giving you points over and over and over or was it like a one time thing?

For the people it worked for it just kept happening over and over.

[Grave_Addiction]

Hopefully MS releases Altered Beast to the xbla .. put that in a bottle and it would be sweeter than Yoohoo

Dude, it's Sega. It has put Altered Beast on nearly every console it has the chance to.

I bought Golden Axe, and am pretty happy with it. It's extremely short since it's the arcade version, and it might be the easiest XBLA game to gain achievements on. I played through the game and beat it the first time and picked up like six achievements, giving me about 95 gamerpoints.

But because Golden Axe is such a simple game, it's difficult to put any real interesting achievements in there. So we're stuck with "Play a co-op game" or "Use lvl 3 magic with dwarf"style achievements.

[Monsta Mack]

Golden Axe is still a timeless classic, but unfortunately the game is still too damn short. But thanks to the smarterchild incident, I got this free and plan on paying for SOR2 when It's released.

[ZForce915]

Anyone else having this issue?

I bought Golden Axe and it sometime recongizes it as the demo version. I have to pretend to download it again to get it to work.

[porieux]

I just tried Sonic and Golden Axe, neither did much for me. Especially Sonic.
The audio in Sonic sounds like crap and the controls seem kind of glitchy, or maybe that's how it's supposed to be.

I guess this is intended for people around 10 years younger than me, cuz I don't have nostalgia for that generation of games to make it more interesting.

Now if Activision had brought out Kaboom! that would be a different story hehe.

[Halo05]

The Golden Axe port is a blast. I just wish I could plug in a Genesis controller to play it. It's harder than the Genesis version but still never too bad. I think I can get the "beat it without continuing" achievement if I cheat and crank up the lives/life bars.

[RAMSTORIA]

I was sad that it was the arcade version of golden axe, the genesis version had an extra level with a harder boss battle at the end. ah well, its still a blast to play, though the achievements were a little easy.

streets of rage 2 will own.

[integralsmatic]

in for SoR 2 also. ill have to check out these also. not interested in sonic because like others i have the mega collection..although Golden Axe would be fun...i really wish 3 was released..that one was killer.

[Strider Turbulence]

in for SoR 2 also. ill have to check out these also. not interested in sonic because like others i have the mega collection..although Golden Axe would be fun...i really wish 3 was released..that one was killer.


It's possible that GAIII will be on the arcade eventually. Sega released it in the Genesis Collection last year.

[Graystone]

I'm going to pass on all this Sega Vintage collection, and just pick up the Sega Mega Collection for PS2.

[Grave_Addiction]

I'm going to pass on all this Sega Vintage collection, and just pick up the Sega Mega Collection for PS2.

The prospect of playing some of my old favorites online with my buddies is enough for me to pick up a few.

[Dwapook]

Three words:

Online. Multiplayer. ToeJam&Earl.
yeah, makes me regret getting it for Wii virtual console!

[eastx]

I just hope it's arcade version instead of the Genesis one.

I'm with you... Since they gave us arcade Golden Axe, it's a strong possibility.

And Golden Axe's controls are fine.

[velvet396]

Linkinprime you started this thread yet my friends leaderboard shows me owning you in Sonic to the tune of about 10x your score.

Just teasing you, no really, did you play through Green Hill Zone Act 1 and nothing else?

[LinkinPrime]

Linkinprime you started this thread yet my friends leaderboard shows me owning you in Sonic to the tune of about 10x your score.

Just teasing you, no really, did you play through Green Hill Zone Act 1 and nothing else?
Yes.

Last night I completed Green Hill Zone Act 2 :D

BTW: I trully love the "SEGA Vingate Collection" layout for these games, its just looks simply stunning.

[gamcreator]

Sonic's achievements should be pretty easy since you can save the game in the middle of a level.

[rsigley]

Sonic's achievements should be pretty easy since you can save the game in the middle of a level.

oh really? damn wish i paid attention

kept failing one of the chaos emerald levels and ended up beating it the first time with only 5

had to play through a second time to get all 6

[Halo05]

It's possible that GAIII will be on the arcade eventually. Sega released it in the Genesis Collection last year.

Ugh, they can keep Golden Axe 3. I played it on my PSP a couple days ago and it was pretty much ass. The arcade version of Golden Axe II would be glorious, there's never been a home port and the game kicks all kinds of ass.

I've gotten very close to beating GA without continuing as the dwarf but I can't get close with the humans. Am I correct in assuming that the Dwarf is the most powerful guy? I realize his magic isn't as strong but his axe has good range.

[King]

I bought Sonic and have been playing the shit out of it, I only have the beating the game in under 40 min achievement left. Can't wait for Sonic 2.

[Halo05]

I just beat Golden Axe without continuing (although with 5 lives and 5 energy bars). Getting to Death Adder as the guy is harder than as the dwarf but holding onto that blue dragon makes burning through Death Adder's minions about a million times easier. It's not like the Genesis version where his skeletons are invincible, you can get the fight down to where it's just you vs. Death Adder. At that point I had only died once but then I got overconfident and he took me down a couple times. I think tomorrow I'll work on the woman more.

[eastx]

I think Golden Axe 3 (Mega Drive) is a perfectly good game, though a bit difficult. The Golden Axe arcade sequel is not numbered.

[Halo05]

Oh yeah, it was "Golden Axe - The Revenge of Death Adder". Such an awesome brawler. My complaints about Golden Axe III stem from the fact that it's such a radical departure from the first two Genesis titles and unlike GA - TRODA, it didn't have all kinds of awesome graphics, riding mounts and emplaced weapons to back it up.

[tsg2005]

ok im pissed. why cant i find any site in the world that has the locations of the chaos emeralds? im not asking much.

[CaseyRyback]

ok im pissed. why cant i find any site in the world that has the locations of the chaos emeralds? im not asking much.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You need to have at least 50 rings at the end of any non boss stage to bring up a huge gold ring that leads you to a special stage where you can find the Chaos Emeralds.

[tsg2005]

You need to have at least 50 rings at the end of any non boss stage to bring up a huge gold ring that leads you to a special stage where you can find the Chaos Emeralds.

and they expect people to just know that? seriously where in the game does it tell me that? thats ridiculous

i never played sonic back in the day, but still...

[Strider Turbulence]

and they expect people to just know that? seriously where in the game does it tell me that? thats ridiculous

i never played sonic back in the day, but still...


Well...yeah. It was probably in the instruction manuals but in any case, you'd eventually find out about it clearing stages with lots of ring in hand.

[daroga]

and they expect people to just know that? seriously where in the game does it tell me that? thats ridiculous

i never played sonic back in the day, but still...Is there no online manual for the game?

Remember, back in "the day" there were no tutorial levels. You just sorta played and tried to figure stuff out. This aspect of Sonic 1, though, is so engrained in my memory that it baffles me to think someone doesn't know it. ;)

But I know where you're coming from. I never played much Zelda 1 when I was growing up and some of my friends are just baffled that I just don't "know" where all the dungeons are.

[elwood731]

But I know where you're coming from. I never played much Zelda 1 when I was growing up and some of my friends are just baffled that I just don't "know" where all the dungeons are.
I played and beat Zelda growing up, but I can't remember where all the dungeons are. Old games were just kind of puzzles, meant to be figured out along the way.

[fieldkillah]

and they expect people to just know that? seriously where in the game does it tell me that? thats ridiculous

i never played sonic back in the day, but still...

I believe it is mentioned in the how to play section under help and options.

[tsg2005]

anybody know how many chaos emeralds there are?

[tsg2005]

anybody know how many chaos emeralds there are?

*bump*

maybe a dumb question, but i cant find ANY sites that has any type of help/walkthrough for this game

[Brak]

Eight or nine, or something like that.

[eastx]

There are 6 Chaos Emeralds in Sonic 1. Plus, if you were trying to get them, you really should have them all by now. It's dirty-easy thanks to the save anywhere feature.

[Ruined]

Golden Axe arcade port is incredible.

I just wish the XBLA DRM was more portable in terms of offline play (like switch master consoles once every 3mos or something)

[tsg2005]

There are 6 Chaos Emeralds in Sonic 1. Plus, if you were trying to get them, you really should have them all by now. It's dirty-easy thanks to the save anywhere feature.

ya i know. im playing it again since i didnt realize where the chaos emeralds were.

ive got 4 already and im the Labrinth Zone

are they in ALL the special stages at the end of each ACT 1/2? cuz if they are I think I missed one.

[akilshohen]

no, you get them whenever you got to a special stage. You basically have to go to the special stage and win 6 times to get them all. If you missed act 1-2, you can still get the 2nd one in act 2-1

[Tsukento]

*bump*

maybe a dumb question, but i cant find ANY sites that has any type of help/walkthrough for this game
...

Anyone else who grew up with a Sega Genesis feel like face palming right about now?

You run fast towards the exit while avoiding sharp objects, things that can crush you and trying not to drown in aquatic levels. What would need help with?

Sonic the Hedgehog's been ported over a hundred times before this, who the hell DOESN'T know how to get through the game?

[tsg2005]

ya there are 6 chaos emeralds. i got all the achievements for the game so im happy.