Are you ready to give up 24+ hours of your life? You can because it's RPG THREAD #3!!

[Chacrana]

As might be made obvious by the title, this is the new RPG thread... right now I'm playing FFX International and I'm pretty close to the end. I already finished FFX way back, but I'm playing through this new version and I still love the game.

Okay, commence the discussion!

[Roufuss]

I just released the PSP has become an RPG powerhouse in its own right, and I'm talking this time about big name developed games, not shit like Legend of Heroes.

For the rest of this year, the PSP (in the US) will be seeing:

Tales of the World
Final Fantasy 1
Final Fantasy 2
Riviera
Disgaea (August, I think, but no release date on GS)
Final Fantasy Tactics (hopefully this year, no release date yet)
Jeanne D'Arc (no release date either)
Oblivion
Harvest Moon

Just announced:

Star Ocean 1
Star Ocean 2

That's a lot of RPG's... half of them are ports but I never played the originals so it's all new to me :D This is in addition to awesome RPG's we already have like Valkyrie Profile.

Now if only Konami would smarten up and release Suikoden 1 + 2 here... I heard it's because of abysmal sales in Japan they never ported it elsewhere, but if Harvest Moon is getting brought out here on the PSP after being out in Japan since 2005, there is still hope for Suikoden!

I like my DS, but other than Final Fantasy 3 there is really no RPG's whatsoever that appeal to me, so I'm glad my other portable can pick up the slack.

[Chacrana]

Oh that's right... forgot about Tales of the World and Jeanne D'Arc... hell, are we getting the 23478234982374 other Tales games that were announced for the PSP?

Anyway, I'm hoping for Crisis Core this year...

[Roufuss]

Oh that's right... forgot about Tales of the World and Jeanne D'Arc... hell, are we getting the 23478234982374 other Tales games that were announced for the PSP?

Anyway, I'm hoping for Crisis Core this year...

Yea, I forgot about Crisis Core... and I did forget about those other Tales games. Did they even come out in Japan yet? Hopefully we'll be seeing a release date soon, OR they are going to use Tales of the World is a measuring stick to see if it's even worth bringing out the rest over here.

Didn't they do that with Abyss? I remember they used sales of Legendia to determine whether or not to bring Abyss out here.

I'm still not giving up on Suikoden 1 / 2... wish Konami would just dump it over here.

[Supercake]

I'm just trying to bide my time till Odin Sphere comes out. Since I finished .hack GU 1 there's not much I feel like playing right now.

Chacrana, does FFX-2 International have full english until the tower? I know FFX has full english, but in menus/commands also? What about X-2?

[Chacrana]

I'm just trying to bide my time till Odin Sphere comes out. Since I finished .hack GU 1 there's not much I feel like playing right now.

Chacrana, does FFX-2 International have full english until the tower? I know FFX has full english, but in menus/commands also? What about X-2?

FFX-2 only has English voice overs. All text is in Japanese throughout the game. It's disappointing to say the least.

[Krymner]

I'm about halfway thru Fire Emblem: PoR for the Cube and still slowly chugging along in FF3 for the DS.

Fire Emblem is taking me alot longer than I anticipated, since I gotta keep resetting the damn thing everytime someone dies. I hate how some guys can be one-shotted, but overall I've been very impressed with the story. I didn't anticipate that the game would be as good as its turned out to be.

Any release date on Fire Emblem for Wii in the US?

[Rodimus]

I was gonna make the new thread and call it "Chrono Choom Choom Choom" I was trying to meet you half way JEKKI.

[botticus]

I'm about halfway thru Fire Emblem: PoR for the Cube and still slowly chugging along in FF3 for the DS.

Fire Emblem is taking me alot longer than I anticipated, since I gotta keep resetting the damn thing everytime someone dies. I hate how some guys can be one-shotted, but overall I've been very impressed with the story. I didn't anticipate that the game would be as good as its turned out to be.

Any release date on Fire Emblem for Wii in the US?PoR was excellent... took me some 40-50 of game time to get through it (which probably translates to 75 hours of actual playtime with all the restarting). I'm hoping the Wii game will be out by October, 6-8 months following the Japanese release like PoR. But no word yet.

To be honest, I'm more excited about the NEXT Wii Fire Emblem (they're already talking about it hypothetically), which will feature online battling and hopefully use the pointer. Goddess of Dawn is really yet another Cube -> Wii port, but they didn't bother tacking on any Wii features, just uses the classic controller.

[cletus]

I just recently finished putting 230 hours into Disgaea 2. I don't even remember what games I was playing before it. After that I took a break from RPGs and spent 20 glorious hours playing Godhand. Right now I just started Suikoden 5 but I play on going back to Godhand again eventually.

I've found the trick is to take a break from RPGs after each one. This way I don't get burned out on them like before. Maybe I'll finally get to Beyond Good and Evil after Suikoden 5.

[Roufuss]

Makes me glad somebody picked me up Fire Emblem: PoR for $2 from that Best Buy clearance then ;)

[botticus]

I just recently finished putting 230 hours into Disgaea 2. I don't even remember what games I was playing before it. After that I took a break from RPGs and spent 20 glorious hours playing Godhand. Right now I just started Suikoden 5 but I play on going back to Godhand again eventually.

I've found the trick is to take a break from RPGs after each one. This way I don't get burned out on them like before. Maybe I'll finally get to Beyond Good and Evil after Suikoden 5.Playing less than 230 hours might prevent you from burning out too. :lol:

[Rei no Otaku]

I'm playing the new .hack game. A nice extension of the last one.

I just want Mass Effect as soon as possible. I need that game...

[kainzero]

i beat dragon warrior 4 in 2 days thanks to the power of emulation speed up! playing RPGs without it feels so weird. it turns 40 hour rpgs into 8 hour ones.

man, i wish i kept my dragon warriors in mint condition... i just have the cartridges. i used to have the strategy guide for dw4 but i don't know where i put it.

let's talk about dumb things to happen in an RPG!

i played dragon warrior 3 when i was a kid, it's really long and ardurous... so i was all excited when i got to the last dungeon. i saved it off and planned to beat it the next day.
when i loaded it up, i found out that my brother had messed up all the games and replaced them with his. great. i didn't finish it until probably 11 years later when the gbc version came out.

think that's bad?
i played xenogears till the last dungeon, just messing around with the side quests that don't really do anything for you. and well, xenogears is one of those rpgs where the story has a lot of "oh sh**" moments, so it's kinda fun to go back and play through and see how it unfolded. i started up a new game just so i can check it out, then i accidentally saved over my final dungeon game.

yeah.
so i had to replay the entire game just to see the ending. i kept falling asleep too.

[LostRoad]

i played xenogears till the last dungeon, just messing around with the side quests that don't really do anything for you. and well, xenogears is one of those rpgs where the story has a lot of "oh sh**" moments, so it's kinda fun to go back and play through and see how it unfolded. i started up a new game just so i can check it out, then i accidentally saved over my final dungeon game.



Not tring to bust your balls here, but care to explain that? Getting the best weapons/items and expanding more on char's plot does nothing for you?

[fatbeer]

I'm playing the new .hack game. A nice extension of the last one.

I just want Mass Effect as soon as possible. I need that game...

So far I'm enjoying the game as well. They really add new stuff in the mix. They also fix some of problems found in part one such as much faster fighting pace, faster chi chi gathering with team kicking and pressing select to view the largest mini map keeps in place. The new additions I found so far is Crimson Vs (a card base style), finding tri-edge symbols from AIDA are sort like finding virus cores for special bosses in old version, bike parts, alchemy on armor or accesories and the revised gobblin tagged which now involves bikes instead of foot race.


I hope this episode will answer a bit more mysterious of "The World". Now Tri-Edge have some new goons that look like Orca and Balmuge, I wonder are they related to old user in past episode? Did Kite really subcome to data drain and become tri edge? What the hell is Aida? What is Sauki, Cc Corp and many other characters true intentions? I guess the only way to find it, is to beat the game.

[62t]

I just released the PSP has become an RPG powerhouse in its own right, and I'm talking this time about big name developed games, not shit like Legend of Heroes.

For the rest of this year, the PSP (in the US) will be seeing:

Tales of the World
Final Fantasy 1
Final Fantasy 2
Riviera
Disgaea (August, I think, but no release date on GS)
Final Fantasy Tactics (hopefully this year, no release date yet)
Jeanne D'Arc (no release date either)
Oblivion
Harvest Moon

Just announced:

Star Ocean 1
Star Ocean 2

That's a lot of RPG's... half of them are ports but I never played the originals so it's all new to me :D This is in addition to awesome RPG's we already have like Valkyrie Profile.

Now if only Konami would smarten up and release Suikoden 1 + 2 here... I heard it's because of abysmal sales in Japan they never ported it elsewhere, but if Harvest Moon is getting brought out here on the PSP after being out in Japan since 2005, there is still hope for Suikoden!

I like my DS, but other than Final Fantasy 3 there is really no RPG's whatsoever that appeal to me, so I'm glad my other portable can pick up the slack.
dont forget Brave Story: New Traveler and Dungeon Maker: Hunting Ground for PSP from XSeed.

[kainzero]

Not tring to bust your balls here, but care to explain that? Getting the best weapons/items and expanding more on char's plot does nothing for you?
Since the last dungeon is done while in Gears, it doesn't make too much sense to get each character's best weapon when they're on foot. I don't think Esmeralda's sidequest affects her performance in her Gear either, which was the only relevant plot-expanding sidequest... the desert sequence didn't really have any plot. Nor did Battling have any effect either. =P

I'm not trying to knock Xenogears or anything, it's a pretty good game. It was meant to illustrate the point that I wasted a bunch of time screwing around instead of finishing the game. =P

[2Fast]

I really have been meaning to start FFXII for a while now but can't get around to it. What am I missing out on?

[Rei no Otaku]

Just got the following email from Atlus:

Members of the gaming press,



Atlus USA is pleased to announce the official North American release of Growlanser: Heritage of War, a new entry in the acclaimed Growlanser series, for the PlayStation®2 computer entertainment system. Featuring an epic story, stellar art and music, and hardcore RPG gameplay, Growlanser: Heritage of War is a worthy addition to both the series and the genre. Please reference the official press release (attached) for additional details.
About Growlanser: Heritage of War

On an island continent shrouded in darkness and bounded on every shore by an impassable veil, war rages among desperate inhabitants fighting for survival. A mysterious famine has ravaged the land, leaving its denizens to struggle over what little fertile land remains. There is no safe haven; land that war has left untouched is still threatened by the Screapers, fierce and powerful monsters steadily encroaching on the cities of men. Hope is fading - who will rise to save this dying land?

Key Features

•Over 70 Hours of Gameplay! A sweeping story arc spanning 5 lengthy chapters, with additional chapters to
unlock.

•A Fantasy World Comes To Life! Story unfolds through gorgeous hand-drawn animation and character
portraits by artist Satoshi Urushihara.

•Strategic Party-based Combat! The action is faster and more exciting than ever as you use an advanced
troop command system to give orders to your allies – smart tactics are the key to victory.

•Manage Your Character’s Ability Tree! Change your character’s abilities based on the needs of the
situation. As your character levels, so too do your Ability Plates!

•Discover A Magical Fairy Companion! The more time you spend training your fairy partner, the richer your interactions will be with her, and the more she can assist you on your quest. You can even enter her in the great Fairy Contest – her performance as she competes with other fairies in a tournament of skills depends on how well you have prepared her!

•Cultivate Intimate Relationships With Your Allies! With the Friendship and Personality Rating System, your personality can either limit or enhance your interactions with others; the outcome of your encounters depends entirely on your behavior! Mold a protagonist as ill-tempered or good-natured as you desire. And if you're brave enough, reveal your true feelings to a companion; if they come to feel the same way about you, you'll be rewarded with a bonus hand-drawn character-specific ending animation that puts the icing on
the cake!

[fatbeer]

It's nice to know that Atlus is now publishing it instead of Working Design. I wonder will they release the older versions?

[Dead of Knight]

I just released the PSP has become an RPG powerhouse in its own right, and I'm talking this time about big name developed games, not shit like Legend of Heroes.

For the rest of this year, the PSP (in the US) will be seeing:

Tales of the World
Final Fantasy 1
Final Fantasy 2
Riviera
Disgaea (August, I think, but no release date on GS)
Final Fantasy Tactics (hopefully this year, no release date yet)
Jeanne D'Arc (no release date either)
Oblivion
Harvest Moon

Just announced:

Star Ocean 1
Star Ocean 2

That's a lot of RPG's... half of them are ports but I never played the originals so it's all new to me :D This is in addition to awesome RPG's we already have like Valkyrie Profile.

Now if only Konami would smarten up and release Suikoden 1 + 2 here... I heard it's because of abysmal sales in Japan they never ported it elsewhere, but if Harvest Moon is getting brought out here on the PSP after being out in Japan since 2005, there is still hope for Suikoden!

I like my DS, but other than Final Fantasy 3 there is really no RPG's whatsoever that appeal to me, so I'm glad my other portable can pick up the slack.

Except these are all ports except for Tales of the World and Jeanne D'Arc.

Playing Mother 3 again now. Good times.

[Callandor]

I've been very slowly working through FFVI advance since release (I've played it to death on the SNES when I was younger, so no rush), and I recently continued though Dragon Quest VIII. Finished Enchanted Arms a few weeks ago.

Can't wait for Blue Dragon...

[MightySlacker]

I like my DS, but other than Final Fantasy 3 there is really no RPG's whatsoever that appeal to me, so I'm glad my other portable can pick up the slack.

Thats what the GBA slot is for on your DS.

I'm currently playing Yggdra Union, and its fucking awesome. I'm only on battlefiled 20 or so and its already in my top 5 strat rpg list (and Ive played just about all of them). The game just does so many little things that make playing it enjoyable that other games don't.

I'm also currently playing through the GBA Final Fantasy series, currently doing the Soul of Rebirth in FF2

Dave

[62t]

If Harvest Moon is referring to Innocent Life: A Futuristic Harvest Moon, thats not a port. It is ported back to PS2 in Japan however

[JEKKI]

I'm currently playing Yggdra Union, and its fucking awesome. I'm only on battlefiled 20 or so and its already in my top 5 strat rpg list (and Ive played just about all of them). The game just does so many little things that make playing it enjoyable that other games don't.damn mang I still got dat game sealed sitting on my desk!!

but I also found Tactocs Ogre GBA at gamestop buring b2g1...

and I still got both Super Robot Wars, Summon Knight 2, both Boktais, and MMZ4 all on backlog (currently playing boktai 1 & MMZ4 btw)

mother freakin GBA man, best system ever

[Roufuss]

Except these are all ports except for Tales of the World and Jeanne D'Arc.

Playing Mother 3 again now. Good times.

I don't care that they are ports or not because I've never played most of them, besides Final Fantasy 1 + 2, so it really makes no difference to me.

And Star Ocean 1 is a port but I doubt anyone has played the properly translated Enix version unless they speak Japanese, and I really don't like slogging through RPG Rom's on the computer with a fan translation which is hit or miss.

And MS, I've played through all the GBA RPG's I care to play through, just waiting on someone to drop Yggdra Union to cheap before I buy it. Not terribly concerned over getting it, though. Was hoping it would one day go to $20 like Summon Night 1 + 2 and SRT 1 + 2 but no dice yet.

Maybe I'll go snatch up a cart only $20 used copy at EB though, one day. Might wait for another b2g1 free.

[62t]

And Star Ocean 1 is a port but I doubt anyone has played the properly translated Enix version unless they speak Japanese, and I really don't like slogging through RPG Rom's on the computer with a fan translation which is hit or miss.


You can play Star Ocean 1 with the dejap fan translated, which is fully in English.
http://www.fantasyanime.com/valhalla/starocean_shots.htm


However I would be very excited about a PSP version if the improvements are as good as the improvements from Tales of Phantasia SFC to ToP PSP.

[kainzero]

I really have been meaning to start FFXII for a while now but can't get around to it. What am I missing out on?
imo, nothing really.

the story is kinda cool but you slog through so many dungeons and miniquests that you kinda forget about it. i didn't really enjoy all the extra stuff either...

it's fun if you have a lot of time to set aside... some of the dungeons took me about 2-3 hours...

[eldergamer]

Currently playing SMT: Nocturne (finally finished all the kalpa's, now working my way to the end)
Atelier Iris (I surprisingly like it)
Shadow Hearts from the new world. (everyone's right. it's not as good as the first 2)
Dragon Quest 8. (sometimes feels like a chore, but has it's moments.

Finished phantom brave about a month ago and want another game similar to it.

[Roufuss]

You can play Star Ocean 1 with the dejap fan translated, which is fully in English.
http://www.fantasyanime.com/valhalla/starocean_shots.htm
.

While I appreciate the link, I already knew about it, which is why I mentioned I'd like an a) professionally translated SquareEnix version and b) I don't like playing through RPG rom's (or any sort of rom, really) on the computer.

:lol: you even quoted the post where I said both of those. In any case, I'm not going to really lament the fact Star Ocean is a "port" since it's the first time it's commercially available in the US, and I'd much rather have that over the alternative.

It would be nice now if SE put Secret of Mana 3 on the DS / PSP and we ended up getting a translated version of that too.

[Supercake]

Currently playing SMT: Nocturne (finally finished all the kalpa's, now working my way to the end)
Atelier Iris (I surprisingly like it)
Shadow Hearts from the new world. (everyone's right. it's not as good as the first 2)
Dragon Quest 8. (sometimes feels like a chore, but has it's moments.

Finished phantom brave about a month ago and want another game similar to it.

Ah, Shadow Hearts 3...that game was one of the biggest letdowns ever for me.

I popped in DQ8 this morning after putting it off for months. I totally forgot how good the game was. I just need to get back into all the gameplay details and I'll be playing it again. I still have Odin Sphere coming up, but I'm just a damn RPGholic.

I've tried to take breaks between RPGs. It doesn't always work.

[MadFlava]

Now I have to get GrimGrimoire after reading that import review and watch the trailer video in the old thread. It looks very unique to the PS2 library. I've usually keep away from Console RTS but this one actually looks like it will be good.

[62t]

While I appreciate the link, I already knew about it, which is why I mentioned I'd like an a) professionally translated SquareEnix version and b) I don't like playing through RPG rom's (or any sort of rom, really) on the computer.

:lol: you even quoted the post where I said both of those. In any case, I'm not going to really lament the fact Star Ocean is a "port" since it's the first time it's commercially available in the US, and I'd much rather have that over the alternative.

It would be nice now if SE put Secret of Mana 3 on the DS / PSP and we ended up getting a translated version of that too.
opps I somehow read that as using a translation guide. While Dejap quality is not the best, many fan translation are much better than professional translation. For one thing they usually have a chance to fix any mistake that are made. While Star Ocean doesnt run prefect, I usually play most of my rom on psp myself.

[depascal22]

Sorry I'm late to the party, guys. Never got the invite.

Other than Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, and Lost Oddyssey(sp), what RPGs are coming out for the 360? I'm loving the PSP and DS RPGs but I want some truly next-gen RPGs that aren't called Final Fantasy.

[botticus]

Sorry I'm late to the party, guys. Never got the invite.

Other than Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, and Lost Oddyssey(sp), what RPGs are coming out for the 360? I'm loving the PSP and DS RPGs but I want some truly next-gen RPGs that aren't called Final Fantasy.Eternal Sonata looks like it's out in September. EB's got a couple listings for other games I've never heard of.

http://www.ebgames.com/search.asp?N=133+106

[Chacrana]

Interesting to see Culdcept Saga is coming here. I'll have to pick that up.

Oh, and that Two Worlds game does seem to have some potential.

[RelentlessRolento]

sorry, couldn't find the old thread so I'll repeat myself:

wait wait wait... WTF? Vagrant Stoy is part of the FFT universe??????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivalice#Vagrant_Story_2

yay!





.... also, I'll be getting culdcept saga when it hits the states. The main game looks like poo but an online TCG is enough for me.

[RelentlessRolento]

Except these are all ports except for Tales of the World and Jeanne D'Arc.

Playing Mother 3 again now. Good times.


Still don't understand why people think ports are bad. Especially when it's ported to a hendheld. Since when could you play Disgaea while driving?

[depascal22]

I'm all for ports of games coming to the PSP. Valkyrie Profile was impossible to find normally but I got a chance to play it on the PSP. If we can get Suikoden II in English, I'll be happy. This will also be the first time Star Ocean 1 will have an English release. It'd be great to get some new original RPGs but I'm all for going back to play games I've never played before. I'm just wondering when Vagrant Story and Xenogears will come out on the PSP.

[Apossum]

I'm all for ports of games coming to the PSP. Valkyrie Profile was impossible to find normally but I got a chance to play it on the PSP. If we can get Suikoden II in English, I'll be happy. This will also be the first time Star Ocean 1 will have an English release. It'd be great to get some new original RPGs but I'm all for going back to play games I've never played before. I'm just wondering when Vagrant Story and Xenogears will come out on the PSP.


you can get Suikoden II in English, for free, with homebrew :)




I've come to the sad realization that I'll never be able to play a straight J-rpg again. After playing Oblivion, it's impossible to go back to them. I went back to FFXII, a game I loved before I started playing oblivion, and could not believe how generic it seemed. SMT: DS too, as well as Nocturne.

Odin Sphere looks different enough though...gotta support 2D :)

[martin8me]

Has anyone finished VP2: Silmeria? I'm can't fuckin' defeat angrim and purple lady face!!whatever her name is!! Damn them!

Great game though;)

[Chacrana]

A shit ton of Squeenix game screens (including the amazing looking Crisis Core) and info at Square's Jap-Party!

http://www.gamespot.com/events/squareenixfest/index.html?tag=topslot;title;2&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot

[botticus]

Got started into Rogue Galaxy for real (sort of dumb at this point since I'm going to lose track of what I'm doing after my upcoming vacation, but oh well). Great game so far after a few hours. Finally a game with some voice acting that isn't horrendous.

[Rei no Otaku]

Got started into Rogue Galaxy for real (sort of dumb at this point since I'm going to lose track of what I'm doing after my upcoming vacation, but oh well). Great game so far after a few hours. Finally a game with some voice acting that isn't horrendous.
Finally? Games like Metal Gear Solid, Snatcher, and Soul Reaver had excellent voice acting years before Rogue Galaxy.

Man I hope we get Ar Tonelico 2...

[botticus]

Finally? Games like Metal Gear Solid, Snatcher, and Soul Reaver had excellent voice acting years before Rogue Galaxy.

Man I hope we get Ar Tonelico 2...Let me rephrase: "Finally a recent game that I have enough interest in playing to care about the voice acting with some voice acting that isn't horrendous."

[Rei no Otaku]

Let me rephrase: "Finally a recent game that I have enough interest in playing to care about the voice acting with some voice acting that isn't horrendous."
Much better XD

[Purple Flames]

I just plowed through Lunar Knights in 2 1/2 days. For a 12-hour dungeon crawler, it wasn't bad.

Odin Sphere is looking great. That may be my first $50 game purchase since Twilight Princess.

[botticus]

I just plowed through Lunar Knights in 2 1/2 days. For a 12-hour dungeon crawler, it wasn't bad.

Odin Sphere is looking great. That may be my first $50 game purchase since Twilight Princess.I wouldn't be too sure. It's only $40. ;)

[Purple Flames]

I wouldn't be too sure. It's only $40. ;)

I stand happily corrected :D

[willardhaven]

I can't decide on an RPG to start up or finish... I still have barely played FF 12.

Odin Sphere seems tempting.

[Purple Flames]

I can't decide on an RPG to start up or finish... I still have barely played FF 12.

Odin Sphere seems tempting.

I say finish up the ones you're already playing. Nothing sucks more than quitting an RPG partway through and then going back months later and then forgetting your place.

[martin8me]

Shit, if I get Odin Sphere my backlog is gonna get HUGE. I hope I finish before Persona 3 comes out. Anyways here's my backlog:
*FFXII
*VP2
*MegaTen: DDS2
*SO: Till the End of Time
*Makai Kingdom
*FFX
Yep I'm set to give up 180+ hours of my life.:cry:

[RelentlessRolento]

Am I the only person here liking Sqaur Ala 1990s? Seems to me like Square has gone way into "super milking" mode lately... Capcom has an excuse since they've been doing it forever, but cmmon square!

[MadFlava]

Anyone excited about Grim Grimoire?
Gametrailers has a nice collection of trailers:
http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=4509

Since its by Vanillaware, the same developers of Odin Spere, it looks like its more 2-D goodness. The real time strategy gameplay should be very different. Someone reviewed the import:
http://www.gamebrink.com/playstation-2/2725-Grim_Grimoire-reviews.html

[kainzero]

Am I the only person here liking Sqaur Ala 1990s? Seems to me like Square has gone way into "super milking" mode lately... Capcom has an excuse since they've been doing it forever, but cmmon square!
yeah, the milking mode is pretty annoying, but i'm more annoyed at the fact that we're not getting some games.

i still like dq monsters... it's a shame we don't get the DS version. i like it more than pokemon because it's faster and there's more attacks =P at least we're getting dq9.

i want itadaki street special too. it has bianca from dq5 =P

[botticus]

<----------- :-(

I need more resurrection potions in Zerard.

[62t]

Saw this at another topic but Square has confirmed 4 RPG for US release this year

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/05-14-2007/0004587322&EDATE=

DRAGON QUEST MONSTERS - Joker
DRAGON QUEST SWORDS: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
FINAL FANTASY TACTICS: The War of the Lions
FINAL FANTASY XII REVENANT WINGS

[JEKKI]

ah man Xenosaga III strikes again,

I got sucked into it hella yesterday, then I left my room to get a snack and my mom saw me and was like "dont u gotta be somewhere else rite now" and I was like oh shi-!!!

anyway, segment files are completed, both optional bosses are defeated, all swimsuits acquired, and all but Ziggy's final weapon acquired as well!!

all I need is 100% database and more skill points now

[Supercake]

Rented Kingdom Hearts 2, hoping to blow through it before Odin Sphere. I'm a little clueless as to how the story is going, but I'll catch it sooner or later.

I never played Chain of Memories, so that explains why I'm in the dark right now. Currently on the 6th day with Roxas. (That's only like 3hrs in)

[fatbeer]

I just beat Hack Gu vol2 today. In my opinon this game offer several new things like tune up game mechanics along with several new game features. In the end, the game feels more like an expansion then a new game. There isn't enough new changes in this game, the really big change is storyline. Most of stuff feel tack on like useless Crimson Vs, Bike Racing and new completion quest. Combat does get a little too repetitive toward the end since you did the exact same thing in previous episode.

After beating this game I feel pretty sastify with my purchase, but i think it's cost too much money for an expansion game. Maybe if it cost $20-$25? Then things will be different. It's great game for people who love dungeon crawlers or anyone who enjoyed the last game.

The person who we thought is real "Tri-Edge"(otherwise known as Azure Kite), isn't Tri-Edge at all. The real Tri-Edge is Ovan!

Great not much rpgs breathing room for me. With Etrian Odyssey coming this week along with 3 rpgs of last week of may. I doubt I will play my other rpg backlog for this year like pokemon diamond/pearl, Obilvion, Vahalla Knights, Shining Force Exa and Ar Tornelico until mid or end of June.

[cletus]

I'm about 20 hours into Suikoden 5 and I'm loving all the political intrigue and machinations so far. I'm still trying to wrap my head around everything so I wouldn't mention any plot/spoilers. I will say one thing though. The enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend. I definitely recommend this game to anyone looking for a good JRPG.

BTW I hadn't planned on playing 200+ of Disgaea 2. The main story wasn't as funny as the first and I didn't like the characters very much. When I finished I figured I would take a glance at postgame content then put it away. Next thing I know I was perfecting items and hunting pirates. It was addictive just leveling characters.

[Swift900]

Hey guys. I'm new to the whole RPG scene here at CAG, but that is all about to change... I bought a shit load of PS2 rpgs earlier this month during the EB / GS B2G1 promotion, and have started playing through them.

I began with LOTR: The Third Age. I'm about 10 hours in, at almost 40% complete. Overall, I find the game to be very mediocre. The combat gameplay is turn-based, but I'm finding it to be pretty shallow. The story also leaves a lot to be desired, you're essentially a Gondorian warrior in a party which greatly resembles the fellowship, and you follow the fellowship helping in anyway possible. So since I already know how the story is going to play out, I'm quickly losing the desire to play this game... I'm really considering just putting the game down and starting up something else.

For those of you who may have played it, is it worth sticking it out? I think I've pretty much seen all this game has to offer.

[Rodimus]

I'm about 20 hours into Suikoden 5 and I'm loving all the political intrigue and machinations so far. I'm still trying to wrap my head around everything so I wouldn't mention any plot/spoilers. I will say one thing though. The enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend. I definitely recommend this game to anyone looking for a good JRPG.

Suikoden V was my favorite game of last year. Good to hear some people are still enjoying it. This was really made for the fans and I consider that a good thing. I like the fact that it's not about "saving the world" which has become a very boring plotline in J-RPGS or RPGs in general.

[fatbeer]

I began with LOTR: The Third Age. I'm about 10 hours in, at almost 40% complete. Overall, I find the game to be very mediocre. The combat gameplay is turn-based, but I'm finding it to be pretty shallow. The story also leaves a lot to be desired, you're essentially a Gondorian warrior in a party which greatly resembles the fellowship, and you follow the fellowship helping in anyway possible. So since I already know how the story is going to play out, I'm quickly losing the desire to play this game... I'm really considering just putting the game down and starting up something else.

For those of you who may have played it, is it worth sticking it out? I think I've pretty much seen all this game has to offer.

I thought it was a pretty mediocre game as well. You basicly follow the same plot line as movie, so there will be no surprises. The only difference is you play meanless 3rd characters that no care about. Maybe if you play arogon, gemli or legos, you might actually love the characters? I hate reusing the same skill time after time to level up my skill.


I'm about 20 hours into Suikoden 5 and I'm loving all the political intrigue and machinations so far. I'm still trying to wrap my head around everything so I wouldn't mention any plot/spoilers. I will say one thing though. The enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend. I definitely recommend this game to anyone looking for a good JRPG.

BTW I hadn't planned on playing 200+ of Disgaea 2. The main story wasn't as funny as the first and I didn't like the characters very much. When I finished I figured I would take a glance at postgame content then put it away. Next thing I know I was perfecting items and hunting pirates. It was addictive just leveling characters.

I love Suikoden 5 story as well. The way they balance the story around and still maintain a good character development for all those characters, which is very hard to do. My only grip with that game is the noticable slowdown in battle encounter. As well,slow pace story. A good 20 hour investment is need to view juicy parts of game.

You spent 200+ hours on Disgaea 2? I only spent half that amount of time to complete. Maybe,it's because I got the doublejump? Majority of that 600+ page guide is just for fluff with some rather useless number or stats, the only section you need is the math calcaulation on weapon improvement, high level monster caputuring, weapon/skills section and perfect weapons guide. I didn't like the characters in Disgaea 2 as well, they seem to take thing a bit more serious. I wish it kept Laharl as main protaigonist.

[Rodimus]

I love Suikoden 5 story as well. The way they balance the story around and still maintain a good character development for all those characters, which is very hard to do. My only grip with that game is the noticable slowdown in battle encounter. As well,slow pace story. A good 20 hour investment is need to view juicy parts of game.

Yeah, I remember alot of people complaining about the first 20 hours. Although it served it's purpose in devloping the characters, it was lagged out. I remember being pissed that I missed only 1 of the 108 stars in my first play through, which was Oboro. He can be extremly missable if you're not paying attention.:bomb:

[JEKKI]

whoooo~~~!!! beat Xenosaga III.

finally!!!

anyway that game was hella dope!!

at the end of the day it makes completely no sense whatsoever,

but that game was hella dope!!

also the ending is like longer than the game itself man.

Most of the ending also makes completely no sense whatsoever,

but it was hella dope!!

the only RPG I own now that I cant jus play on my PSP is SMT Devil Summoner

(and Breat of Fire Dragon Q, but I gotta beat the other ones on my PSP first)

but I tink I'ma hold off on it and play Odin Sphere instead.

in the meantime, my friend tells me God of War is one of the most awesome games ever, and wants to get a PSP again just for the new one,

I think I'ma play that next!!

[willardhaven]

I've been playing Onimusha 3 lately, not an RPG at all but I think it definitely shares some RPG qualities (levelling up weapons and such).

I'm going to try to finish FFXII, does anyone have any tips to make the story more, shall we say understandable? Plus how long can I blast through XII without doing many hunts or sidequests (I'm assuming sidequests are not missable)?

[JEKKI]

I went to Gamecrazy today 2 buy Odin Sphere (so that I wouldnt have to support ebstop business) and found two bargain gems!!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/210/514225636_6c23fa64fc.jpg

DDS for $15?!?!?! how can I not!!? lol

unfortunately for Wario, the dood didnt even look at the game he grabbed and ended up giving me Wario master of Disguise.

I tried it out anyway, and that game was PAINFUL!! now I'm even more eager to return it for the correct game!!

anyway, they also had used copy (complete and good lookin too) of Suikoden III and IV

$7.99 and $17.99 respectively, should I???

I've only played partway thru SII on my psp, I cant motivate myself to play it since I usually end up loading a UMD whenever I turn to my psp.

altho SII does indeed kick much azz so far

[Chacrana]

oh shiiiiiii JEKKI got the DDS. Fuckin' awesome. You played it before, Jek? I thought you had that DDS stick so you were a fan and have played through it, but who even knows anymore.

[62t]

you could always just turn off the option to load UMD when you turn on the system.

[Rei no Otaku]

Avoid Suikoden 4 like the plague. The game is one of the worst RPGs I've ever played.

[Roufuss]

Avoid Suikoden 4 like the plague. The game is one of the worst RPGs I've ever played.

Worse than Suikoden 3?

Does 4 even have a redeeming story? (Which, imo, was the *only* high point of Suikoden 3).

[JEKKI]

lolz.

Chacrama>> yeay I already own DDS1 complete, but how can u pass it up for $15?!?!?! I can use it as a gift or sell it/trade it elsewhere.

62t>> my UMD startup IS turned off. It's jus that usually the UMD inserted into my PSP is such an aweasome game like Tekken or DJ Max that I cannot resist not playing it.

good advice on suikoden btw!! thanks!

V was the one I heard the most good things about (in regards to PS2 versions), didnt kno about the other 2

[fatbeer]

Jekki that some amazing find. Congrats!


Avoid Suikoden 4 like the plague. The game is one of the worst RPGs I've ever played.

I didn't think it was that horrible. My expectation was extremely low and it turn out better then I expected. Many reviewers rated bad due to bad ship controls and boring seasurfing. That may be true, the other aspects of game is fine such as game mechanics with fairly reasonable storyline. I played alot of rpg and I seen much worst like magna carta, grandia xtreme and lunar dragon song.

[Rodimus]

^ True, while Suikoden IV was the worst in the series, it's not the worst RPG ever. The thing I hated about the story was it took place like 400 years in the past so there weren't alot of returning characters. I also disliked only having 4 characters per team. With over 50 playable characters it became difficult to manage all the ones I liked. And the villian wasn't impressive, Graham Cray was BORING!!! But from what I remembered the voice acting wasn't too bad, and Ted's side quest was intresting.

Suikoden IV is the only one in the series I've beaten only once, and that was enough for me.

[fatbeer]

Yeah, one playthrough was enough for me also. I mainly did for extra character in Suikoden tactics. I recall that Suikoden timeline went like this?

Suikoden iv>>>suikoden tactics>>suikoden 5>>suikoden 1>>suikoden II>>suikoden 3

[Rodimus]

Yeah, one playthrough was enough for me also. I mainly did for extra character in Suikoden tactics. I recall that Suikoden timeline went like this?

Suikoden iv>>>suikoden tactics>>suikoden 5>>suikoden 1>>suikoden II>>suikoden 3

Yeah that's pretty much correct. I know there are parts in Suikoden Tactics that take place before IV.

[Roufuss]

Got me some Jade Empire Special Edition for the PC for $10, so I think that'll be my next RPG.

Good times, there. Also got a Rogue Galaxy guide for $5 so I think I'll put RG on deck next.

[Rei no Otaku]

Of course it's not the worst RPG ever. There's some unplyable games out there. Like Lunar Dragon Song. But it is definitely one of the worst I've played though. Granted that could be due to my decent expectations for it. It is a Suikoden game after all. When it comes to that series, I expect the best of the best. And every part of the game sucked ass. The sailing, the characters, the crappy plot, the gameplay. It was all horrific.

And on the opposite end of the spectrum, Odin Sphere rocks!

[fatbeer]

Is anyone here psyche for Aterlier Iris 3? The last game, Iris 2 really suprised how good the game was, with it's simply alchemy system and fast pace combat system with some grandia feeling.

I doubt anyone here will talk about Dawn of Mana? The reviews for this game are horrible. One of mom and pop store was selling it for $42. It still pretty high for game that will end up cheaper in a few months.

There is couple of persona preorders.I might consider the amazon route instead since the game will come with a soft cover box, it will mostly likely get crushed or bented by buy.

46.99 amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Shin-Megami-Tensai-Persona-3/dp/B000FPM4WC/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-4395147-4012828?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1180228516&sr=8-1

38.99 at buy with google checkout
http://www.buy.com/prod/shin-megami-tensei-persona-3/q/loc/108/202713705.html

[Roufuss]

I'm thinking of getting Atelier Iris 3, if only for that artbook... I want to read some more in depth reviews on it, so I'm waiting for someone like RPGfan.com to review it.

So far it's getting shitty scores across the board, some of them even under 50%... Play Magazine usually loves 2-D and only gave it a 75%.

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=779604

RPG Fan gave it a 40%, I'm reading through it now to see why they scored it so low, since their other reviews seem to be pretty spot on (Odin Sphere got a 92, for example).

Reading that the game only has five dungeons that you have to do over and over again kind of seems blah. Apparently they took everything that made AI 1 and 2 good and replaced it with a dungeon crawler.

Now I just want to read a review that is mostly positive, and compare the negatives and positives to see if the game is worth playing for me and what is exaggarated, as some things are deal breakers.

[eldergamer]

I've really enjoyed altier iris (sp) much more than I expected. I find myself playing for a few hours at time just doing alchemy/ item creation stuff rather than advancing the story.
But it's just emberassing to be a grown man playing a game with a cat girl who ends every sentence with "meow".
we won meow! meow, mental strike!

[Chacrana]

Started Rogue Galaxy yesterday and 90 minutes in, it's really good. I'm running it on the PS3 upscaled to 720p and it looks really damn good.

[GuilewasNK]

I made a tribute vid for Tidus and Yuna if anyone wants to see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLUE93uQ6lg

It's took me awhile to rip the FMV from the FF X-2 DVD. It looks way better in the original wmv, but it still turned out good IMO. I used Alicia Keys' "Unbreakable".

[fatbeer]

Anyone preorder Eternal Sonata for xbox 360? It comes with 5 different asorted faceplates. I'm not sure I want to preorder all five to get all faceplates. I don't even have a xbox 360 to begin with

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=B200314A
Pre-order Eternal Sonata and upon purchase, receive one of five custom designed XB360 faceplates for your system! Valued at over $20, these faceplates are high quality and display rich, vibrant colors all covered with a protective coating for years of enjoyment. Be the envy of your friends with these limited edition faceplates! Limited Quantities available only while supplies last.

[Chacrana]

such a long ways off...

[Rei no Otaku]

Anyone preorder Eternal Sonata for xbox 360? It comes with 5 different asorted faceplates. I'm not sure I want to preorder all five to get all faceplates. I don't even have a xbox 360 to begin with

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=B200314A
Oh snap! Finally some faceplates I'd actually put on my 360! *preorders*

[fatbeer]

Hmmm.. it seem like monster hunter freedom 2 comes with preorder bonus as well.

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=B190468A

Order Monster Hunter Freedom 2 and recieve a Watermelon Pet Poogie Plush FREE! The plush pig will ship with your order and is available while supplies last. See stores for details.

[Roufuss]

Anyone preorder Eternal Sonata for xbox 360? It comes with 5 different asorted faceplates. I'm not sure I want to preorder all five to get all faceplates. I don't even have a xbox 360 to begin with

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=B200314A

Preordering just for the faceplate to put in the vault, then probably returning the game, cause I gots no 360. Either that, or sell it with the game.

But this one of those things that will probably be worth a mint if this is the only way to get them.

Thanks for the heads up.

[Rei no Otaku]

I really need to play Atelier Iris 3. I've had it since release but just haven't gotten around to it...

[EXStrike]

I really hate my huge backlog. It seems like I'll never finish it. -_-

I've been looking on getting AI3, but the reviews don't look that great, and AI2 for the few hours I've played of it was pretty mediocre.

After I finally beat Rogue Galaxy (which will probably happen within the next two weeks), I'm probably gonna start playing FFXII or Ar Tonelico again, or start Odin Sphere.

On portable side, finally gonna beat FFIII soon. In the Crystal Tower right now.

[fatbeer]

I will probably preorder the Eternal Sonata just for the faceplate,then end up returning the game.

I'm in the same boat for Atelier Iris 3. It still sealed in it's NisAmerica packaging. I doubt I will play anytime soon. My backlog of rpg's just grown quite a bit during the buy 2 get 1 free sale with Devil Summoner, Aedis eclipse, blade dancer, Valhalla knights, Pokemon diamond/pearl, legend of heroes series, dawn of mana, and etrian odessey. Right now, I'm too focus on trying to beat the Marvel Trading Card game for psp. God, that game is long, it take about 40-50 hours to beat minimum .

[kell]

Anybody have any thoughts on Star Wars KOTOR?

I am thinking of starting it this weekend, but I am a little hesitant to commit a lot of time to just one game since I don't get much time to play (a couple hours a week). But I am looking for something somewhat involving and if it is worth playing I won't mind the commitment (I hate not finishing games).

[Roufuss]

Anybody have any thoughts on Star Wars KOTOR?

I am thinking of starting it this weekend, but I am a little hesitant to commit a lot of time to just one game since I don't get much time to play (a couple hours a week). But I am looking for something somewhat involving and if it is worth playing I won't mind the commitment (I hate not finishing games).

Do you like US style RPG's (Bioware type stuff, not Oblivion)? Do you like Star Wars?

If you answer yes to those questions, then KOTOR is fucking awesome.

If you answer no to those questions, you probably won't like it.

As for me, I'm going to do a Baldur's Gate marathon, now that I got my 4 in 1 package in yesterday.

[kell]

Do you like US style RPG's (Bioware type stuff, not Oblivion)? Do you like Star Wars?

If you answer yes to those questions, then KOTOR is fucking awesome.

If you answer no to those questions, you probably won't like it.

As for me, I'm going to do a Baldur's Gate marathon, now that I got my 4 in 1 package in yesterday.

Not sure about liking US style RPG's. I don't play many RPGs due to their length, but I very much enjoyed FFVII and FFVIII. What I like about RPGs is the involvement they provide, the story, the characters. I also like the building of chracters, making them stronger, customizing them, etc.

How do US RPGs differ?

Yes, I like the Star Wars universe.

[Roufuss]

Not sure about liking US style RPG's. I don't play many RPGs due to their length, but I very much enjoyed FFVII and FFVIII. What I like about RPGs is the involvement they provide, the story, the characters. I also like the building of chracters, making them stronger, customizing them, etc.

How do US RPGs differ?

Yes, I like the Star Wars universe.

US RPG's focus more on the choices one would make, and generally have a lot more freedom than your typical Japanese RPG. Stories can branch many ways, you can choose to be good or evil, most of the time you're free to do what you want. It's not usually you're just tagging along with the main plotline, as generally the main character is whoever you make it to be.

KOTOR has awesome story and characters, and you will learn a ton about the characters as you go from talking to them... everyone has very detailed pasts, which is different from FF's where you only really learn key details, and not someone's entire history.

Carth in KOTOR comes to mind as someone who spills their guts.

I like US RPG's a bit more because they are more interactive and you feel more involved, whereas most JRPG's you just feel like you're simply watching a story.

[fatbeer]

How do US RPGs differ?

American rpg relies heavily on non-linear storyline with heavy emphasis towards character customization with very deep story. Most of them are action rpgs to gear toward Amercian gamers who dislike turn based rpgs like baldur's gate, x-men legends, marvel ultimate alliance, world of warcraft, obilvion, diablo, etc.

Japanese rpg relies more on linear storyline with most turn based style.

[kell]

...whereas most JRPG's you just feel like you're simply watching a story.

Yep, that's exactly how I felt.

Most of them are action rpgs to gear toward Amercian gamers who dislike turn based rpgs like baldur's gate, x-men legends, marvel ultimate alliance, obilvion, diablo, etc.

Japanese rpg relies more on linear storyline with most turn based style.

I did play X-Men Legends, but I guess I never classified it as an RPG since I have always been used to the turn based style of combat.

Thanks guys for your input. I think I will give it a try as I am now intrigued. At a few hours a week it should only take me 6 months to finish...

[Rodimus]

Japanese rpg relies more on linear storyline with most turn based style.

And the characters have big bubbly eyes.

[Roufuss]

Yep, that's exactly how I felt.



I did play X-Men Legends, but I guess I never classified it as an RPG since I have always been used to the turn based style of combat.

Thanks guys for your input. I think I will give it a try as I am now intrigued. At a few hours a week it should only take me 6 months to finish...

With KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, those kind of games, it's nowhere near Diablo 2 or X-Men Legends... that's a differnet type of RPG entirely.

With KOTOR, you pause the action, issue out your commands, and then watch them execute them in real time.

[kell]

With KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, those kind of games, it's nowhere near Diablo 2 or X-Men Legends... that's a differnet type of RPG entirely.

With KOTOR, you pause the action, issue out your commands, and then watch them execute them in real time.

So with KOTOR do you pause it multiple times during a conflict? So it's quicker than trun based I assume? Turn based always takes too long for me.

[Roufuss]

So with KOTOR do you pause it multiple times during a conflict? So it's quicker than trun based I assume? Turn based always takes too long for me.

If you want to, you can. It's been awhile since I played it, but I'm pretty sure you can queue up 5 commands to take place and just let it go.

But if you say attack, you just do it once, don't need to do it 1000 times, they'll keep attacking when they are dead. So you could go attack ---> power shot ---> something else ---> back to attack.

And then, if you need to refine, pause it again and put in some more commands. It's much faster than turn based.

[Rei no Otaku]

You don't have to pause KOTOR to issue commands. In fact I prefer not to, makes it more fun that way.

Btw, KOTOR is my favorite RPG of all time, and my #2 favorite game of all time. This coming from a hard core JRPGer. The game is amazing. Play it now.

[MillerTime2523]

I <3 ES3: Morrowind.

Just thought i'd throw that out there. :)

Also getting Rhapsody and FF7 soon.. can't wait for that.

Aside from morrowind & KOTOR, i'm not big on RPG's, but i'm excited to give these 2 a play test.

[MarkMan]

Got Persona 3, just started it and I'm gonna play through a good amount tonight(hopefully)... haven't played through an RPG in awhile(Dragon Quest VIII), so I hope this one is good... :)

I've been looking forward to it though... if anyone has any questions on the game please fire away... I'll try to answer and post my impressions soon.

[RelentlessRolento]

MM will officially be a both/emo during the extent of playing this. it's a good thing as long as its shin mugemi.

[vherub]

Got Persona 3, just started it and I'm gonna play through a good amount tonight(hopefully)

I, I don't understand

[Chacrana]

MM will officially be a both/emo during the extent of playing this. it's a good thing as long as its shin mugemi.

Shame on you.

[Rodimus]

Did you get a Japanese or some kinda Beta copy MM? And please post your impressions. I'm curious to see how a non-fanboy freak feels about it.

I just started playing Suikoden Tactics a few days ago. I'm surprised I didn't play this one sooner (considering I'm a Suikoden freak.) I never thought I liked strategy games but I'm getting into this one. I like it so much I'm thinking of getting Fire Emblem for GC, I always hear great things about that game.

[Apossum]

MM is hooked up.


So i'm playing DDS right now. I don't see why people think this game is harder than nocturne...maybe I just need to get to enemies that use Death and Expel spells X_X

the only difference I see is that they get the pre-emptive strike a lot.

also, anyone have any recommendations for which mantras to get early? seems like it doesn't really matter...

[EXStrike]

The one with the Iron Stomach ability. It prevents stomachaches.

[martin8me]

Got Persona 3, just started it and I'm gonna play through a good amount tonight(hopefully)... haven't played through an RPG in awhile(Dragon Quest VIII), so I hope this one is good... :)

I've been looking forward to it though... if anyone has any questions on the game please fire away... I'll try to answer and post my impressions soon.

Woah woah, that P3 is an import right?

[MillerTime2523]

Just got FF7 & Rhapsody in the mail yesterday.

Before then I havent been much of an RPGer.. I'm hooked :)

[Rodimus]

also, anyone have any recommendations for which mantras to get early? seems like it doesn't really matter...

Yes Iron Stomach is invaluable if you want to farm for AP, it nulls Stomach Ache. Also I got alot of use out of aliment inflicting skills like Tentrafoo (not sure if I spelled that right.) It helps when the ailment connects and you can wack away with criticals. And if I remember correctly not too many enimes are resistant to it.

But besides that it's hard to recomend a single skill since the enimies weekness are always changing. Some of the most powerful Mantras can't be unlocked until you're pretty much at the end. Just make sure you have a well balanced group.

[motorkill]

Did you get a Japanese or some kinda Beta copy MM? And please post your impressions. I'm curious to see how a non-fanboy freak feels about it.

I just started playing Suikoden Tactics a few days ago. I'm surprised I didn't play this one sooner (considering I'm a Suikoden freak.) I never thought I liked strategy games but I'm getting into this one. I like it so much I'm thinking of getting Fire Emblem for GC, I always hear great things about that game.

Im currently close to beating Suikoden Tactics and I beat Fire Emblem for GC a few months ago, and can honestly say that Fire Emblem is superior to Suikoden Tactics. Definitely pick up Fire Emblem as soon as you can.

[keithp]

Finally getting Rogue Galaxy, should be arriving this week I hope. I really should get back to FFXII before cracking it open, but I don't think I'll hold out.

DS has been taking up the majority of my gaming time lately.

[Roufuss]

I don't even think I've turned my DS on in the last 2 months... hopefully Hoshigmi Remix changes that.

I just put in Summon Night 2 into the micro... decent so far, but the story takes a long time to get going.

[Rei no Otaku]

I don't even think I've turned my DS on in the last 2 months... hopefully Hoshigmi Remix changes that.
Same here, and I don't plan to turn it on until the next Phoenix Wright comes out. Been playing the hell out of my PSP though.

[MarkMan]

Regarding Persona 3 (post from PS2 thread)

Okay after about an hour of play, I'm happy to say I'm enjoying it... again I really like the art direction/look and feel of this game... The English voice acting is better than I thought it would be and the cut scenes are really well done...

[willardhaven]

Does everyone here unanimously agree that Shadow Hearts games are good?

Everytime I try to start 1 or 2 I get bored...

[Rei no Otaku]

All of them except the 3rd one. That one was horrible.

[willardhaven]

Yeah I think I've just been too impatient with them.

I'm glad I didn't pick up the third though, if it's the worst of them.

[Rodimus]

Im currently close to beating Suikoden Tactics and I beat Fire Emblem for GC a few months ago, and can honestly say that Fire Emblem is superior to Suikoden Tactics. Definitely pick up Fire Emblem as soon as you can.

Suikoden Tactics has shown me I can enjoy the ocasional strategy game. I'll be picking up Fire Emblem soon. Question about Suikoden Tactics: Are their several endings or only one? I'm asking cause one of my characters died and I didn't save for a long time.

[fatbeer]

Suikoden Tactics has shown me I can enjoy the ocasional strategy game. I'll be picking up Fire Emblem soon. Question about Suikoden Tactics: Are their several endings or only one? I'm asking cause one of my characters died and I didn't save for a long time.

Nope, just one ending. I hope you got your suikoden iv save, the extra character you get is amazingly strong. By the way, did anyone get the Konami Allstar news? Their website is shutdown. Now all those one million point items are now redeemable by contest.

Right now, I'm playing between 4 games- Yoshi Island Ds, dawn of mana, final fantasy vi, and aelis eclipse generation of chaos. Dawn of mana camera angle is really pissing me off. Camera is constantly swinging in all directions, majority of my time is spent reseting the camera angle.

[Rodimus]

Nope, just one ending. I hope you got your suikoden iv save, the extra character you get is amazingly strong.

Yes, I got my save and loaded it. I painfully played through IV so I could enjoy Tactics. The secret character is the hero from IV, right?

[fatbeer]

Yes, I got my save and loaded it. I painfully played through IV so I could enjoy Tactics. The secret character is the hero from IV, right?

Yes, you get Lazlo, hero of suikdoen iv and snowe. It's not hard to figure out who the extra character are. Once you load your save, you get an extra stage and get use both character temporary when the game just started

[Apossum]

so glad I picked up DDS1 the other day.

great game so far. so great that I do not comprehend. can't wait to see the story unfold.

[Rodimus]

Yes, you get Lazlo, hero of suikdoen iv and snowe. It's not hard to figure out who the extra character are. Once you load your save, you get an extra stage and get use both character temporary when the game just started

Ohhhh, so that stage at the start was extra? Cool :)

[kainzero]

Just got FF7 & Rhapsody in the mail yesterday.

Before then I havent been much of an RPGer.. I'm hooked :)
FF7 I can understand... it's pretty critcally acclaimed, even if it also receives a large amount of criticism. Something I don't really wanna get into...

But Rhapsody is such an odd game to be hooked on... hahah =P

[Lorddraco07]

Picked up Monster Hunter Freedom the other day for psp since it is so hard to find and been wanting to play it since I bought my psp. 10 hours in and great game. I haven't even really done anything either aside from the 1* elder quests and mining ore for new weapons.

[DQT]

Nope, just one ending. I hope you got your suikoden iv save, the extra character you get is amazingly strong. By the way, did anyone get the Konami Allstar news? Their website is shutdown. Now all those one million point items are now redeemable by contest.

Right now, I'm playing between 4 games- Yoshi Island Ds, dawn of mana, final fantasy vi, and aelis eclipse generation of chaos. Dawn of mana camera angle is really pissing me off. Camera is constantly swinging in all directions, majority of my time is spent reseting the camera angle.

Dawn of Mana sounds like it uses the 3d Sonic camera system.

[62t]

I dont think the camera is a real problem for Dawn of Mana. I only some minor problems aiming flying enemies and just center the camera. It isnt much worst then most 3D games.

[jer7583]

Chrono Trigger is as good as I remember it. Been playing it on my PSP off and on. Anyone have any tips for ironing out the slowdown in battles, or any experience with SNES emulators on PSP?

I tried ripping the PSOne disc to play, but the awful loading times/general blurriness of the graphics made me choose the SNES version. I would have thought having it on the memory stick would help with loading, but it didn't at all.

(I do still own my original chrono trigger cart bought at retail back when, just so you know)

[jalu6]

Does everyone here unanimously agree that Shadow Hearts games are good?

Everytime I try to start 1 or 2 I get bored...

I tried to play 1 but couldnt get past the graphics. I skipped right to Convenant and blasted through that and New World. Both great games, and they tell you enough backstory in Covenant that you don't really need to play 1 to see what's going on. Give it more of a shot. Once you get past the fact that certain battles can take a loooong time, its extremely enjoyable.

[JEKKI]

Chrono Trigger is as good as I remember it. Been playing it on my PSP off and on. Anyone have any tips for ironing out the slowdown in battles, or any experience with SNES emulators on PSP?

I tried ripping the PSOne disc to play, but the awful loading times/general blurriness of the graphics made me choose the SNES version. I would have thought having it on the memory stick would help with loading, but it didn't at all.

(I do still own my original chrono trigger cart bought at retail back when, just so you know)try setting he frameskip option to AUTO.

that helped me a lot!

and I said it a number of times already, but Shadow Heart Covenant = my favorite PS2 game!!!!

[Apossum]

Is Monster Hunter on the PS2 as good as the PSP version? what are the differences?

[Rei no Otaku]

Is Monster Hunter on the PS2 as good as the PSP version? what are the differences?
I never played the PSP version, but I have over 200 hours on the PS2 one. The main difference would be online play. I don't know if people still play it online, but they were only a few months ago. I loved it, and it's a lot of fun online.

[whoknows]

I tried to play 1 but couldnt get past the graphics. I skipped right to Convenant and blasted through that and New World. Both great games, and they tell you enough backstory in Covenant that you don't really need to play 1 to see what's going on. Give it more of a shot. Once you get past the fact that certain battles can take a loooong time, its extremely enjoyable.
:lol:

Yeah, when I started one I was surprised by the graphics. I fought through it somehow though and it has turned out to be an enjoyable game. Another game I suddenly stopped playing and I don't know why :-P

[fatbeer]

Is Monster Hunter on the PS2 as good as the PSP version? what are the differences?

Well.. I never played both games, but judging by first impression(when I was testing these games during the gamestop buy 2 get 1 free sale) they both seem great. Even for psp standards. The graphics is almost up to par with ps2 version and loading time is pretty good.


I'm not sure is this correct? According to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_Hunter_Freedom



Changes

The game is different in quite a few ways from Monster Hunter, and Monster Hunter Freedom has some changes from Monster Hunter Portable.

Changes From Monster Hunter

Since this game is based on Monster Hunter G, a game never released outside of Japan, the game contains a much larger set of weapons and armor and more things to do:

* New weapon creation/improvement paths
* More splits in paths to mix with other, previously unrelated paths
* New sharpness levels: Blue and White, White is the new strongest sharpness level
* More armor sets
* Armor skill enhancements are modified for many existing pieces
* More armor skills and Felyne Whim skills
* New Wyverns (Yian Garuga) and color variations of the old ones
* Instead of having to go to the inn to get food, you can now hire different cats to works as chefs to make a wide variety of food.
* New items
* G-class quests are about the same if not weaker than + quest in MH
* The addition of the Kokoto Farm allows hunters to harvest herbs, catch bugs, fish and even mine ores that can be used to make armor. Usage of the farm can upgrade it after hunters accomplish a number of quests from the Village chief.
* Guild cards, which allow more in-depth information of friends to be viewed at anytime, as well as your own ( though this information is only updated when two or more people finish a quest together, and have already given their guild cards to their recipient ). This information includes about the owner: equipment, number of quests finished and rank of those quests, chosen title, personal phrase, friendship level, awards, the size of previously defeated monsters, and treasure hunt scores.

[Roufuss]

Ha, started Summon Night 2 yesterday afternoon, at the end of the game tonight :lol:

It was fun enough for me to plow through in a day... I've got a bit of free time so I managed to blow through all 14 or so hours of the main story in a day. On to the bonus dungeons!

[nyprimus4]

OK never played any game in the Mana series and I don't know what I have been missing. Do I play Children of Mana(DS) or Secret of Mana(SNES) first? How long is each?

[Rei no Otaku]

Don't play Children of Mana. That game is horrible.

[Rodimus]

Secret of Mana is one of the greatest RPGs ever. Honestly I can't recommend any other titles from the series since none of them lived up to the original (or 2nd of the series if you want to get technical.) You could beat it in about 30 - 40 hours. I think it takes me less since I've beat the game about 4 times. And it's 3-Players!!!

[Roufuss]

Woot, finished everything in Summon Night 2 including the bonus dungeons in under 2 days - counter had 17 hours on it. Guess I really plowed through that game.

Not going to start another RPG now, gonna wait for Final Fantasy for the PSP to play through it again for the 1,000th time! Still just as good as the first time, though ;)

[MarkMan]

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141766

Made a Persona 3 thread a few days ago... been posting in it a bit regularly... great game so far!

[Layd Dly]

Man i need to get through some of these games. i was doing good on FFXII and III then New games came out. I am about 48 hours into FFXII i really need to finish it and then play through my 35+ PS2 RPG backlog, i want to play them but i hate playing RPG's unless i have a good 2-4 hours to play a session and that just doesn't happen much anymore.

I also started Atelier Iris 1 when i was just testing it since i bought it used and i put around 10 hours into it because i liked it, so i guess its what ill finish next.

After that im thinking Ar Tonelico, or getting into SMT: DDS 1 & 2 then Nocturne.

[nyprimus4]

Secret of Mana is soooooo good. It's exactly what I've been looking for, a really well made action game with RPG elements.

[Dead of Knight]

Grievances with .hack//GU Part 1 and why it's worse than the last .hack series:
1. Super-repetitive battle system, even worse than before. Has even less depth than last game. You don't even get items from enemies anymore.

2. Only like 5 different enemies (with more powerful versions with different names/colors that do the same thing except have more power and HP)

3. The character designs are boring and uninteresting. None of them have any real personality and don't really interest me. No one is near the caliber of characters like Kite, BlackRose, Mistral, Balmung, Terajima Ryoko, Helba, etc from the first series.

4. The story sucks and isn't explained well, yet the cutscenes are ridiculously long and drawn out when they don't even explain anything. I find myself reading magazines instead of paying real attention during the cutscenes.

5. The Grunties were redesigned to look "cuter," yet they just come off as ugly and poorly designed.

6. The graphics are terrible for an end-PS2 title and perhaps even look worse than the previous series. They just look plain washed-out. Obviously, the cutscenes look good, but that doesn't mean anything.

7. Money doesn't mean shit in this game. I haven't even bought anything, and the shops have way inferior items. You can get anything you need in the dungeons or by trading.

8. I love how you can sell extra crap in the guild shop, but like I just said, you don't really need money in this game anyway. I have 200k GP just lying around because of this.

[Rei no Otaku]

I really like the new .hack games, and thought the first 4 were mediocre at best. I disagree with all your complaints except the money one. You're right in that by the middle of the game you'll have a sizeable sum of cash, and most of your items and equip you get from quests. But I hardly see that as a problem, especially seeing as how that's actually the case in most real MMOs.

But then again I'm used to disagreeing with you by now XD

[fatbeer]

I have to agree with rei on this. The previous hack games are mediocre at best. I enjoy the latest .dot hack series, they actually offer new stuff to table rather then same recycle stuff. Things like retool battle system, weapon customization, new ranking system, arena, more shortcuts, balance game mechanics, guild, don't have to hunt for virus core and each map have different objectives then the original.

Majority of your money is spent towards upgrading yourguild rank or bike shop for part 2

[Rodimus]

I'm debating either Fire Emblem for the Gamecube or Odin Sphere for PS2. Any recomendations?

[fatbeer]

I'm debating either Fire Emblem for the Gamecube or Odin Sphere for PS2. Any recomendations?

Both games are equally as good. So it's a coin flip. If you want some action rpg with alchemy customization get Odin Sphere. Or get Fire Emblem if you like srpg or the like previous fire emblem series. It's probably easier decision to get both.

[Apossum]

I'm debating either Fire Emblem for the Gamecube or Odin Sphere for PS2. Any recomendations?


Haven't played Fire Emblem, but Odin Sphere is really really good. especially if you like alchemy/inventory management.

[Rei no Otaku]

I'm debating either Fire Emblem for the Gamecube or Odin Sphere for PS2. Any recomendations?
Odin Sphere, no contest.

[62t]

I'm debating either Fire Emblem for the Gamecube or Odin Sphere for PS2. Any recomendations?
win-win situation

[Rodimus]

Good, at least I know I'm getting a good game. I really don't want to get both. If I buy both then I'll be tempted to play the other and I like sticking to just one game at a time. I think I'll get Odin Sphere. It's been a while since I played a JRPG, since I'm getting really sick of the crappy save the world storylines with the spikey haired 17 year-old.

[Dead of Knight]

I really like the new .hack games, and thought the first 4 were mediocre at best. I disagree with all your complaints except the money one. You're right in that by the middle of the game you'll have a sizeable sum of cash, and most of your items and equip you get from quests. But I hardly see that as a problem, especially seeing as how that's actually the case in most real MMOs.

But then again I'm used to disagreeing with you by now XD
How did I know that you'd like this shitty game? :wall: :lol:

I'll probably get the rest of the series, but only when they drop to $20 or less each. I'm almost done with Vol 1, just one more story dungeon.

[Roufuss]

Next week is going to be big for me for RPG's -

Hoshigami Remix for the DS
Final Fantasy for the PSP

Then in a few weeks Riviera for the PSP, followed by Tales. Sounds great!

[Rei no Otaku]

I'm looking forward to Grim Grimoire next week. After playing Odin Sphere I'm quite hyped for the next Vanillaware game.

[Roufuss]

I'm looking forward to Grim Grimoire next week. After playing Odin Sphere I'm quite hyped for the next Vanillaware game.

Yea, I was going to get that, but I don't even know when the next time my PS2 will be hooked up after next week so I'm gonna ride on the portable trains for a litlte bit. I'm pretty sure I won't be able to finish it before I leave.

So I figure I'll go with an old classic, can't really go wrong with Final Fantasy - Game Informer gave it a 7.5 but only because it's been done to death - they did say it was the best version of the game there has ever been, so I'm excited, because FF is one of my favorite games and I'd much rather play that over anything else.

Hoshigami I'm just praying is good because my DS could use some love. Hoping beyond hope it doesn't end up being garbage and all the changes they've made will make it something worth playing.

I was going to go with Etrian Oddysey because I want a game that is extremely hard after the easiness that was Summon Night 2 and 95% of modern RPG's out there (kind of why I want Hoshigami too) but we'll see - I just have a feeling it's going to get super cheap one day.

Most RPG's these days are cakewalks... I miss the brutal difficulty of the ones back in the NES era. You grind or you die!

[62t]

I'm looking forward to Grim Grimoire next week. After playing Odin Sphere I'm quite hyped for the next Vanillaware game.

I also like OS enough that I plan to get GG on release.

[Roufuss]

While not really RPG's -

Is there any reason at all to keep and play through Metal Gear Acid when I've got Metal Gear Acid 2? Should I just dump 1 and go straight into 2?

Just wanted to make sure there wasn't any storyline or anything I'd miss out - everything I've heard has pointed to MGA 2 being superior in every way.

[62t]

While not really RPG's -

Is there any reason at all to keep and play through Metal Gear Acid when I've got Metal Gear Acid 2? Should I just dump 1 and go straight into 2?

Just wanted to make sure there wasn't any storyline or anything I'd miss out - everything I've heard has pointed to MGA 2 being superior in every way.
For the story maybe? Otherwise just jump to Acid 2

[Roufuss]

For the story maybe? Otherwise just jump to Acid 2

Do the stories for Acid 1 and Acid 2 intertwine?

Everything I'm reading seems to put Acid 2 as it's own seperate story and being the better game altogether.

Ha, thanks for answering the questions, I'm doing a last minute purge of backlog crap before I move.

[Rei no Otaku]

I honestly wouldn't bother too much Acid 1. There's some connection, but 2 is made so you can play it without having played the first one. If you're a big Metal Gear fan, or a big card game fan than by all means go for it. Just make sure you play the first one first. They improved the second one quite a bit, so it will be hard to go back.

[Roufuss]

I honestly wouldn't bother too much Acid 1. There's some connection, but 2 is made so you can play it without having played the first one. If you're a big Metal Gear fan, or a big card game fan than by all means go for it. Just make sure you play the first one first. They improved the second one quite a bit, so it will be hard to go back.

I have such limited time that I'm just going to sell 1 and go straight into 2, but thanks for all the help.

[motorkill]

So, I beat PoPoLoCrois for the PSP the other day and Im pretty close to beating Suikoden Tactics, but I've lost intrest in Suikoden so Im just gonna take a break on that game. I started playing Stella Deus yesterday and so far I like it.

[martin8me]

Got Tales of the Abyss the other day, definitely one of the most best RPGs of
yesteryear. This and Valkyrie Profile 2, too.

...though TotA is REALLY glitchy its still fucking awesome.

[kainzero]

what does everyone think about the front mission series?

i played the 3rd one but never finished it because it took too long. now i'm considering getting the 4th one but... i dunnnnnnooooooo~

[eldergamer]

really enjoyed the front mission 3. played through both scenarios. started up front mission 4 and just couldnt get into it. story wasn't as interesting and it seemed just like frm3.
but fm3 was a ps1 game and fm4 was a ps2 game... sort of a letdown.

[nyprimus4]

I think I'm going to buy the xbox wireless receiver for the PC tomorrow. I have two 360 controllers, which I think are the most comfortable controllers ever for a video game system. I'm going to try it out with some emulators. LOL, Mario Kart 64 two player with an Xbox 360 controller. I'll see how it turns out.

[jalu6]

I think I'm going to buy the xbox wireless receiver for the PC tomorrow. I have two 360 controllers, which I think are the most comfortable controllers ever for a video game system. I'm going to try it out with some emulators. LOL, Mario Kart 64 two player with an Xbox 360 controller. I'll see how it turns out.

Sometimes, when I have a few too many Windows open, I end up posting in the completely wrong thread also. Tabbed browsing has its drawbacks too, I guess.

[Derrick1979]

what does everyone think about the front mission series?

i played the 3rd one but never finished it because it took too long. now i'm considering getting the 4th one but... i dunnnnnnooooooo~

Just get the 4th one its dirt cheap now and I don't think it's as long as the 3rd one..

[EXStrike]

After beating Rogue Galaxy, I started playing Xenosaga III, because I already got the disc 2 before I stopped playing it for a while.

But I don't remember one thing - for the best FS bonus possible, do I have to FS all enemies? I don't remember if I did that or not while I was playing before.

[magiic]

I just managed to grab Tales of the Abyss and Valkyrie Profile 2 for $15CAD each. Are those two worth a play thru?

[Rodimus]

I just managed to grab Tales of the Abyss and Valkyrie Profile 2 for $15CAD each. Are those two worth a play thru?

I'll vouche for VP2. The fighting system is very cool. I couldn't get into TotA but everyone else says it's awsome. I just never gave it a chance.

[nyprimus4]

Oops lol it was 2:30 in the morning and I had like 10 tabs open.

[Roufuss]

Wow, is it just me, or is Etrian Odyysey hard to find already?

Barely any stores around here have it in stock, except one store that has 4+, and they don't expect anymore in.

Kind of surprising.

EDIT: Guess it's just me, Long Island EB's all seem to have copies.

[Rei no Otaku]

I just the bought the game yesterday. Last copy at my store.

[Roufuss]

I just the bought the game yesterday. Last copy at my store.

Yea, I'm gonna take a drive on Wednesday down to a store the locator says has 4+ of Etrian Odyysey as well as 4+ of Yggdra Union and kill two birds with one stone, as well as trade in whatever doesn't sell on Ebay tomorrow.

Right now, Puzzle Quest has a vice grip on my DS :(

[nyprimus4]

Puzzle Quest is a form of crack-cocaine.

[Dead of Knight]

So I figure I'll go with an old classic, can't really go wrong with Final Fantasy - Game Informer gave it a 7.5 but only because it's been done to death - they did say it was the best version of the game there has ever been, so I'm excited, because FF is one of my favorite games and I'd much rather play that over anything else.

Hoshigami I'm just praying is good because my DS could use some love. Hoping beyond hope it doesn't end up being garbage and all the changes they've made will make it something worth playing.


FF1 on GBA was so dumbed down in difficulty it's not even worth playing. You don't have to level up at all, and even then it's still way easy.

Hoshigami is shit, and they didn't change it for the DS version.

Like I said in the OTT, I finished .hack//GU 1. I still think it's pretty shitty, and now I just don't think I'm going to waste any time or money on 2 and 3. I think one of the reasons why I thought it sucked so much, other than it obviously sucking on its own, is that I played Rogue Galaxy right before it. RG is like the fresh Maine lobster of story-driven action-RPGs, fresh and delicious, while .hack//GU is like the expired canned tuna of the genre, stale and rotten.

[Rei no Otaku]

Rogue Galaxy, story driven? That's just comical. I loved RG as much as the next guy, but the story was definitely the weakest aspect.

I'm waiting for Tales of the World. Now the Tales series, that's the creme of the crop when it comes to story driven action-RPGs.

[Dead of Knight]

Rogue Galaxy, story driven? That's just comical. I loved RG as much as the next guy, but the story was definitely the weakest aspect.

Read my post more carefully, noob. I meant the subgenre of action-RPGs of being more story-and-character-driven with multiple party members like a traditional RPG. I would say both Rogue Galaxy and .hack qualify for this category (as well as Tales like you mentioned). And yes, Rogue Galaxy's story sucked. But .hack's sucked even more.

[62t]

Rogue Galaxy, story driven? That's just comical. I loved RG as much as the next guy, but the story was definitely the weakest aspect.

I'm waiting for Tales of the World. Now the Tales series, that's the creme of the crop when it comes to story driven action-RPGs.
except this is not a main Tales game. You create your own main character instead of using existing character.

[Apossum]

FF1 on GBA was so dumbed down in difficulty it's not even worth playing. You don't have to level up at all, and even then it's still way easy.




the psp version is extremely easy too. I don't remember dying once...
the only way to make the game hard is to make it like the NES original--which was artificially difficult and almost totally based on luck (or ridiculous power-levelling.)

[Rei no Otaku]

Read my post more carefully, noob. I meant the subgenre of action-RPGs of being more story-and-character-driven with multiple party members like a traditional RPG. I would say both Rogue Galaxy and .hack qualify for this category (as well as Tales like you mentioned). And yes, Rogue Galaxy's story sucked. But .hack's sucked even more.
Sorry, didn't know "story-driven" was a sub-genre in a genre that's supposed to be about stories. Hence why I assumed it was an adjective describing RG as being about the story. No need for name calling T.T

[gunm]

Etrian Odyssey sounds interesting, but maybe too "hardcore" for me. Since it doesn't seem too hard to find, I'll just wait until there's a price drop.

What's the buzz on Grim Grimoire? Is it a straight up RPG? I really liked the art direction in Odin Sphere, so this one looks promising. I'd like to pick it up, but not sure if it's a "day one" kind of game for me.

And yeah, I have to question "story-driven" as being a sub-genre of RPGs. Story is whole point of an RPG, regardless of the execution...

[Rei no Otaku]

What's the buzz on Grim Grimoire? Is it a straight up RPG? I really liked the art direction in Odin Sphere, so this one looks promising. I'd like to pick it up, but not sure if it's a "day one" kind of game for me.
It's actually more of a RTS.

[Dead of Knight]

No need for name calling T.T
You've had it coming with your poor taste in games. ;)

I can't believe you live just miles away from me, either.

[gunm]

It's actually more of a RTS.

Hm, I don't like RTS, but console strategy a la Disgaea? That might be ok...I'll hold off for some CAG reviews first. Amazon has it, and they're notoriously slow on pre-orders anyway, so probably ok for me to wait. Thanks!

[Rei no Otaku]

I'll be picking it up Wednesday, and I'll post impressions. I'll have plenty of time to play it since my 360 died today-.-

[62t]

Hm, I don't like RTS, but console strategy a la Disgaea? That might be ok...I'll hold off for some CAG reviews first. Amazon has it, and they're notoriously slow on pre-orders anyway, so probably ok for me to wait. Thanks!
No, it is real time so more like Warcraft.

[fatbeer]

Wow, is it just me, or is Etrian Odyysey hard to find already?

Barely any stores around here have it in stock, except one store that has 4+, and they don't expect anymore in.

Kind of surprising.

EDIT: Guess it's just me, Long Island EB's all seem to have copies.

they're not hard to find here in nyc. Most video games stores have a tough time sell it.

FF1 on GBA was so dumbed down in difficulty it's not even worth playing. You don't have to level up at all, and even then it's still way easy.

So, the Final fantasy I gba version was dumb down in difficulty ? Maybe that'a why my characters are level 80 within 10 hours.


I finally finish beating Dawn of Mana. The game isn't not that bad and not that good either. I can't remember one part that i actually had fun with it. It pretty much doing the same thing over and over again each stage. Whip objects towards your enemy then monster becomes dazes then attack them for stat boost. It suck that those stat boost don't carry for the next level.

[62t]

how long did it took you to beat Dawn of Mana? I need to finish the game but I am too busy with Rogue Galaxy

[fatbeer]

Hm, I don't like RTS, but console strategy a la Disgaea? That might be ok...I'll hold off for some CAG reviews first. Amazon has it, and they're notoriously slow on pre-orders anyway, so probably ok for me to wait. Thanks!

Disgaea is turn based grid srpg. RTS(real time strategy) is game that have strategic movement of units that constantly moving in real time. These games are constantly found in pc war games like commander conquer, warcraft, starcraft, or rise of nations. You basically, have to be quick on your feet when playing rts. One flinch or wrong move can cost you the game when playing a skilled player. In this case, you play single player with fix ai system. No matter what you do the ai system will use the same move over and over again.

[fatbeer]

Dawn of mana is pretty short game, about 12-15 hours to beat or shorter if you run past the stage. It only consist of 8 levels

[gunm]

Yeah, I know what an RTS is. My bad on using Disgaea as an example as of course, it's turn-based. I was probably thinking of something else, though there really aren't many console RTSes, let alone good ones.

[gunm]

I guess IGN has a review of Grimoire already, and it's glowing for the most part, except for one major thing. Sadly, it's a sticking point that will stop me from getting it--no saving mid-battle. For a game with potentially 90 minute matches, there's no way to get out of it without starting over. Sad, because the 2D RTS concept is otherwise interesting to me. I guess I'll stick with Odin Sphere.

[MarkMan]

After spending the whole weekend at home while my daughter was sick, I also spent time with Persona 3 while she was asleep...

After about 20 hours or so logged in I definately reccommend it based on what I've played SO FAR...! ... Support ATLUS and get this game when it comes out next month!

[gunm]

So which is better, the high school dating sim part, or the other part? ;)

[botticus]

So which is better, the high school dating sim part, or the other part? ;):lol:

Summon Night 2 has turned out much better than the rough start led me to believe it would. No clue how far along I am, but about 8 hours in. Unfortunately there's a real lack of teleport spots in this one compared to the original (I think, anyway), so it lends itself to lots of backtracking and replaying if you screw up.

[BREVITY]

Started Rogue Galaxy a few hours ago, seems like a fun game. I have died like 6Xs already though, might be tough. I beat the first boss so far and have not got into much so it might even get better.

[Roufuss]

FF1 on GBA was so dumbed down in difficulty it's not even worth playing. You don't have to level up at all, and even then it's still way easy.

Hoshigami is shit, and they didn't change it for the DS version.

Like I said in the OTT, I finished .hack//GU 1. I still think it's pretty shitty, and now I just don't think I'm going to waste any time or money on 2 and 3. I think one of the reasons why I thought it sucked so much, other than it obviously sucking on its own, is that I played Rogue Galaxy right before it. RG is like the fresh Maine lobster of story-driven action-RPGs, fresh and delicious, while .hack//GU is like the expired canned tuna of the genre, stale and rotten.

Hoshigami isn't even out yet, so how do you know it's shit? I love how people are just comparing it right off the bat to the PS1 version - the only reviews I saw on Gamerankings are two reviews, one by Hardcore Gamer (I don't agree with their taste at all), and RPG Gamer, and I don't really agree with their reviews either. I'm willing to give it a chance and support a small publisher, worst comes to worst I lose $5 selling it on Ebay if I don't like it. But it seems to still be hard as hell so that's definitely 500 pluses for me.

I'm pretty content to just buy it myself and see how I like it, rather than read people's opinions whose taste are nowhere near mine. I only read reviews these days just to get an overview of a game, but I don't really care for the reviewer's opinion on a game unless it's some huge glaring error. Not being able to save mid battle in Grim Grimoire is one of the things that is like "whoa!", but I don't think it'll stop me from getting it, it just means I'll play it at night when I've got more time.

And gunm, I saw you said in another thread you weren't a fan of tough as nails games, at which point based on what people have said I would never recommend Etrian as it's supposed to be extremely hard.

Ha, Rei, another 360 bites the dust I see ;) I might be getting Grim Grimoire too depending on what I have left to trade in - I figure if I get close to $40 in credit I might as well just go for it. Did you play Etrian yet?

[Rei no Otaku]

And gunm, I saw you said in another thread you weren't a fan of tough as nails games, at which point based on what people have said I would never recommend Etrian as it's supposed to be extremely hard.

Ha, Rei, another 360 bites the dust I see I might be getting Grim Grimoire too depending on what I have left to trade in - I figure if I get close to $40 in credit I might as well just go for it. Did you play Etrian yet?
Normally I'd be angry about the 360, but the couple weeks it'll take for me to get it back will give me time to play some of my backlog. So I won't complain too much.

I've been playing Etrian, and it is fun. Though I don't think it's as hard as people make it out to be. My guess is that most of the people playing it are used to current RPGs that are easy as hell. As long as you make sure to plan ahead, and save often, you'll do fine. The only part that I'd say makes it tough is money. You'll probably have to spend some time farming for cash in the game.

I'm the same exact way with reviews. I couldn't care less about the score. I just read them for info on things like glitches or bad game design. Doesn't matter to me what some random guy on the internet thinks about a game. I'm a big boy, I can make my own decisions. I love Koei games, and I think Ar Tonelico was one of the best games this year. Obviously I can't go by other people's opinions XD

[Dead of Knight]

Hoshigami isn't even out yet, so how do you know it's shit? I love how people are just comparing it right off the bat to the PS1 version - the only reviews I saw on Gamerankings are two reviews, one by Hardcore Gamer (I don't agree with their taste at all), and RPG Gamer, and I don't really agree with their reviews either. I'm willing to give it a chance and support a small publisher, worst comes to worst I lose $5 selling it on Ebay if I don't like it. But it seems to still be hard as hell so that's definitely 500 pluses for me.

People who played the Japanese version said that almost nothing was changed and that it's still crappy.

[Roufuss]

Normally I'd be angry about the 360, but the couple weeks it'll take for me to get it back will give me time to play some of my backlog. So I won't complain too much.

I've been playing Etrian, and it is fun. Though I don't think it's as hard as people make it out to be. My guess is that most of the people playing it are used to current RPGs that are easy as hell. As long as you make sure to plan ahead, and save often, you'll do fine. The only part that I'd say makes it tough is money. You'll probably have to spend some time farming for cash in the game.

I'm the same exact way with reviews. I couldn't care less about the score. I just read them for info on things like glitches or bad game design. Doesn't matter to me what some random guy on the internet thinks about a game. I'm a big boy, I can make my own decisions. I love Koei games, and I think Ar Tonelico was one of the best games this year. Obviously I can't go by other people's opinions XD

I'm thinking I'll give Ar Tonelico a shot one of these days... how is it difficulty wise? I realized that's the thing that made stop playing RPG's altogether is that they are piss ass easy with stories that have been told 100's of times over. I don't mind a weak story if the gameplay is there (and challenging), but usually I can't get either. Farming for cash and the fact you can't just walk all over the game has me super excited to go pick up Etrian on Wednesday - Botticus tells me Yggdra Union is pretty tough as well.

I used to put stock in reviews but after reading some horrible reviews for games I liked, and some glowing reviews for games I thought were merely a little above average (Super Robot Taisen comes to mind), I just skim reviews - these days I don't really bother to check reviews, unless a game starts scoring 2 out of 10 for some reason.

I found people who read a review, notice it's flaws, and will go into a game actively looking for those flaws - how many people would have made a big deal about the slowdown in Odin Sphere if it wasn't such a focal point in the reviews? I probably would have never noticed the black wars on the side of the widescreen RE 4 Wii if I didn't already know to look for them.

Point is, especially with RPG's, reviewers are super critical of anything that's not a main stream big name game - I'm actually surprised Odin Sphere scored as high as it did. Shit, looking at Gamerankings, Etrian didn't do too hot on the reviews but the way it's been previewed and talked about means I'll like it, so as you said, who cares what one guy out of millions thought about the game?

Hey, I thought Godhand was an awesome game, and IGN gave it a 3/10, so yea, I can't go by reviews either ;) Since I don't backlog shit anymore, and it's easy to tell if a game sucks within the first 5 hours of playing it, if it's horrible I can usually have it up on Ebay that day or the next day, and I'll lose at most $5 - $10, which is the cost of a rental without actually doing the work of renting it.

Are you getting Hoshigami Remix, by chance? I'm actually kind of excited because one of the main complaints is that "it's too hard!!" which is awesome, at least for me. I don't know why Botticus if finding Summon Night 2 so hard... I finished everything in 17 hours and only died once due to carelessness, the second game was tons easier than the first.

I'm really sad that Square has decided to dumb down Final Fantasy over the years. I'll still buy it, because it's my first and favorite RPG, but damn Square, put back in the hard mode plz :(

[gunm]

Yeah, I knew Etrian was "hardcore", but if it's harder than virgins at the AVN awards, then I'll have to pass on that one, too. Thanks for the heads up.

[Rei no Otaku]

Ar Tonelico is wicked easy. What I loved about it were the characters, which is my main reason for playing RPGs. The characters and the story are what make me like the genre.

I haven't really looked into Hoshigami since I didn't like the PS1 version. If I ever find it used, or a good deal on it, I may pick it up.

[Apossum]

i asked this in the "what are you playing.." thread, but I thought i'd post it here too.

Just wondering how far I am in DDS1-- I just fought Jinana, the Maribel leader's demon form after infiltrating the yellow guy's base.

[Roufuss]

Geez, I'd say you're not even halfway through, or maybe close to half.

You've got a lot of shit left to do.

[Derrick1979]

Ar Tonelico is wicked easy. What I loved about it were the characters, which is my main reason for playing RPGs. The characters and the story are what make me like the genre.

I haven't really looked into Hoshigami since I didn't like the PS1 version. If I ever find it used, or a good deal on it, I may pick it up.


I felt the same way about the game the only con I would have to say is being inside the tower those area's should of had some variety to them and it made the game boring at times..

If your finsished with that you should go snag up Atelier Iris 3.. Game im having fun with right now is Shining Force EXA...

[Moxio]

Ha ha. So I started playing Chrono Cross, I'm about 7 hours in. :lol:

[whoknows]

Trying to decide if I should finish Rogue Galaxy, get further in Nocturne (only about 2 hours in) or start DDS.

[WhipSmartBanky]

I posted this in the FFXII thread, but:

I'm like 2 hours in to Final Fantasy XII and it feels so overwhelming already. I haven't played a Final Fantasy since VIII and I'm so out of touch. Played the demo for this and thought, "Wow, it's just like Knights of the Old Republic."

Heh...I was so wrong.

[Apossum]

picked up DDS2 today. looked at the back of the box and of course, the marquee is a huge spoiler :lol: :bomb: I got home and put it right in the collector's box without opening or looking at it :)

[Roufuss]

picked up DDS2 today. looked at the back of the box and of course, the marquee is a huge spoiler :lol: :bomb: I got home and put it right in the collector's box without opening or looking at it :)

I hate when companies do that.

Bought Season 5 of The Shield, looked at the back of the box while I was waiting to check out, and it was a huge fucking spoiler too (I'm only halfway through Season 2).

[botticus]

I've decided we need to hold someone accountable for Banpresto not releasing the rest of the Summon Night series over here. After loving the two GBA incarnations, I need more. Hopefully the new DS iteration, Twin Age, will get released in due time, but there's quite a back catalog that we're missing.

If nothing else, I wouldn't mind seeing Summon Night 3 and 4, and EX-Thesis on PS2, and Swordcraft Story 3 on GBA.

[keithp]

Finally got back to playing FFXII last night after several months of other games.

Got through the Stilshrine of Miriam but got bored after running around the dungeon hacking stuff, so tonight I fired up Rogue Galaxy which finally came in the mail today. Nice light-hearted change from the dark mood of FF. I'm only an hour or two in, but I think I'll stick with it and switch off when I get tired of it.

Also got Bully in the mail today after FINALLY finding it for $15, but it's going to wait.

[dallow]

http://www.aksysgl.com/hoshigami/

[Roufuss]

Bought 5 games today, it's a vertiable RPG lovefest -

Yggdra Union
Grim Grimoire (which was the last copy at TWO different Gamestop's I went to, so it's selling fast it seems)
Etrian Odyysey (last one at the store I got it from too)
Final Fantasy PSP
Hoshigami Remix

Yay!

I have to leave most of my games behind when I move so these should keep me busy for a few months until I can get the rest of my stuff shipped up :D

[gunm]

At some point, I know I will need to start FFXII, but I haven't even broken the shrink wrap on it yet. I should stop buying RPGs until I finish the ones I got. :P

[DQT]

I finished Megaman Legends 2, but I'm sure that doesn't count. I got that along with FFIX at gamecrazy a couple months ago.

In FFIX, I forgot to deliver the Mognet stuff for the the majority of the first disk. Would anybody happen to know if I'm screwed, or if I can go back and deliver the letters later in the game?

[cletus]

After 78 hours I've finally finished Suikoden 5. This game ranks up there in the top ten RPGs I've ever played. Great story, great main characters, even the combat system was pretty fun for a turn based RPG. I can only hope Suikoden 6 is as good (if it even gets made).

Now I can go back and finish Kingdom Hearts 2. I got to Atlantis and quit out of boredom. Maybe boredom is a bad word for it. Pointless seems like a better description. Everything I did in Kingdom Hearts was pointless because here I am revisiting the same worlds again. Once the novelty of Disney and Square together wears off this game doesn't feel like it has anything else going for it. Maybe it'll pick up later on.

[Rodimus]

After 78 hours I've finally finished Suikoden 5. This game ranks up there in the top ten RPGs I've ever played. Great story, great main characters, even the combat system was pretty fun for a turn based RPG. I can only hope Suikoden 6 is as good (if it even gets made).

Now I can go back and finish Kingdom Hearts 2. I got to Atlantis and quit out of boredom. Maybe boredom is a bad word for it. Pointless seems like a better description. Everything I did in Kingdom Hearts was pointless because here I am revisiting the same worlds again. Once the novelty of Disney and Square together wears off this game doesn't feel like it has anything else going for it. Maybe it'll pick up later on.

Glad you liked Suikoden V, It's by far my favorite PS2 RPG, and it ranks up in my top 5. Did you get the good ending?

The Atlantis level in KH2, is that the one where you sing and dance? I felt like I was 8 years old playing that crap.

[MarkMan]

Some Persona 3 footage at www.high-scoreonline.com !

[Mr. Beef]

In FFIX, I forgot to deliver the Mognet stuff for the the majority of the first disk. Would anybody happen to know if I'm screwed, or if I can go back and deliver the letters later in the game?Unless you missed delivering the letters to the moogles who were practically handed to you, you should be able to finish delivering the letters later. Although I missed some letters around disc 2, and now I'm boned on disc 3.

[suko_32]

I just hope Suikoden VI will take place after III, because I don't really want another prequel...unless it's about the Flame Champion. Though I did enjoy V.

[Rodimus]

I just hope Suikoden VI will take place after III, because I don't really want another prequel...unless it's about the Flame Champion. Though I did enjoy V.

Agreed, even though V was awsome I want a true sequel. I'd like to see some of the old cast like Flik, Victor, Clive, or Erin come back.

[Rei no Otaku]

I don't care when the next one takes place. It just better take place in Harmonia.

[suko_32]

I also thought till the end of V, that the hero would get the Sun Rune since all heroes in previous games had a true rune

[cletus]

I got both versions of the best ending and I watched the bad ending on Youtube. There's suppose to be another ending if you get between 61 - 107 stars but I haven't been able to find a video anywhere. I kinda wish the best ending had gone on longer but it was still satisfactory.

I just remembered one of my favorite events from earlier in the game. Spoilers about Ferid.
After Georg tells you both your parents are dead, I kept wondering what kind of badass was able to kill Ferid. I doubted that limp wristed, aristocratic Gizel could have done it. It turns out the Sun Rune killed him and it was all the Queen's fault. The revelation of what happened was probably my favorite scene in the game.

[Rodimus]

I don't care when the next one takes place. It just better take place in Harmonia.

I heard they wanted to end the series in Harmonia, but honestly I hope the series never ends. In the Suikogaiden games parts take place in Harmonia and Caleria in Suikoden III is a border village of Harmonia, but that's about the extent of what's been shown of Harmonia. It does sound like a intrestingplace to end the series.

But if I had to guess the next location I'd say Kanakan. From what I understand it's very warm and well known for liquer.

[suko_32]

I want it to end in Harmonia as well, but also don't want this series to end for a while. I mean, there's still 9 True Runes left so they could stretch it if they wanted to.

Also, I must know the truth behind Viki and Jeane.

[Rodimus]

Also, I must know the truth behind Viki and Jeane.

I also remember Konami confiming Jeane does not have a True Rune. Yuber and Pesmerga is another unexplained history I'd love to know. I always imagine all the heroes from previous games would join forces to take down Harmonia.

[suko_32]

Meeting the Sindar people would be nice too. If we do meet them, might as well see their True Rune...I wish.

[Rei no Otaku]

The official word on "Jeane" is that they're all members of the same family.

[Rodimus]

The official word on "Jeane" is that they're all members of the same family.

It is offical? I know it was speculated that they all might be diffrent people. None of the games never explained her history or why she never ages, and it's not like them to spoil something important like that for no reason. Out of curiosity where did you get this info from?

[suko_32]

This is a paragraph taken from Wikipedia:

"When the creators of Suikoden were interviewed, they mentioned that, "All of Jeane's family look alike," though this appears to have been said in a humorous light. Nonetheless, some believe that Jeane has family members all over the world with her exact appearance and personality traits (giggling frequently, answering questions evasively, and knowing a great deal about runes). Other players believe that Jeane is the same person in all the Suikodens. Many recurring characters, including Viki, Nash, and Futch, seem to believe she is the same person. Nash notes that she "never seems to change." In Suikoden V, Genoh perceives her to be of great age, but is confused by her youthful appearance."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeane_%28Suikoden%29

[62t]

Anyone else playing GrimGrimoire? I got through the first 5 days and it is pretty good so far. The control is better than I expected for a game pad and the music fits the game setting really well.

[Rodimus]

This is a paragraph taken from Wikipedia:

"When the creators of Suikoden were interviewed, they mentioned that, "All of Jeane's family look alike," though this appears to have been said in a humorous light. Nonetheless, some believe that Jeane has family members all over the world with her exact appearance and personality traits (giggling frequently, answering questions evasively, and knowing a great deal about runes). Other players believe that Jeane is the same person in all the Suikodens. Many recurring characters, including Viki, Nash, and Futch, seem to believe she is the same person. Nash notes that she "never seems to change." In Suikoden V, Genoh perceives her to be of great age, but is confused by her youthful appearance."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeane_%28Suikoden%29

Sounds like Konami doesn't even know what Jeane is yet. I have a feeling she's gonna start getting more involved in the main story as the series progresses. I remember her little side quest in Suikoden V where she retrived somthing important in the Sindar ruins.

Also I want to know why Edge has the Star Dragon Sword in Suikoden III. He seemed like a intresting character to develop on. And Mike also from Suikoden III seems to have some other identity, like Konami was setting up his character for something more important down the line.

[suko_32]

Wikipedia again lol:

"Edge is a 19 year old mercenary for hire found in Le Buque village. In the past, Edge's home village was attacked by vampires and his older sister was taken away. Shortly after that, Viktor and Flik arrived as they were investigating rumors they had heard of the vampires attacking the village. Edge asked if he could tag along as he wanted to become a great swordsman himself. Viktor agreed and lent him the Star Dragon Sword. Together they defeated the vampires and Edge personally killed the Head vampire, saving his sister. Upon hearing of the Harmonian Army invading Dunan, Viktor agreed to let Edge borrow the Star Dragon Sword for a bit longer and they both left.

Aside from the legendary Star Dragon Sword, Edge bears a Lightning Rune."

I never knew this guy had the Star Dragon Sword!!!! How was it it battle in III?

[Rodimus]

I never knew this guy had the Star Dragon Sword!!!! How was it it battle in III?

He's got Viktors stance and fighting style. And just like Viktor the Star Dragon Sword has a distatse for his new owner. Maybe they wanted to make Edge a combo of both Flik and Viktor, since he's actually not bad with Magic, but at the same time has very good STR. As far as I remember the sword doesn't talk much, but when it does it's to put Edge down.

[suko_32]

I still need to finish I & II someday. I also need better spelling/grammer at night.

[Rodimus]

I still need to finish I & II someday. I also need better spelling/grammer at night.

The grammer you can do without, but make beating Suikoden 1 & 2 your top priority. It's much more important. ;)

[suko_32]

The grammer you can do without, but make beating Suikoden 1 & 2 your top priority. It's much more important. ;)

True. In the 5 years of this epic quest to beat I & II, I'm 1hr 30min into the first game and as for the second, I have to wait till I finish the first.

Suikoden III was my introduction into the series, and so I've completed III, IV, V so far.

Edit: I guess I'll play Tactics one day too.

[option.iv]

True. In the 5 years of this epic quest to beat I & II, I'm 1hr 30min into the first game and as for the second, I have to wait till I finish the first.

Suikoden III was my introduction into the series, and so I've completed III, IV, V so far.

Edit: I guess I'll play Tactics one day too.
Suikoden II was addicting for some reason. I enjoyed the battle system, though it was as simple as could be for an RPG. I believe I was just interested in collecting all the stars/characters and the whole castle aspect. Unfortunately haven't played the rest, though I heard Suiko Tactics is ok. I'd go out on a limb and say that Suikoden is a good alternative to the FF series.

[pete5883]

I played in order: I, III, IV, II, V. Nothing has lived up to III IMO (which I ironically would've liked much less if I hadn't played I first,) and it bothers me that they have ignored good mysteries like Cindar/Syndar/Sindar and Harmonia since III. I probably won't buy another game in the series until they get to Harmonia.

[Rodimus]

You guys are gonna want to kick my booty but I'm replaying Suikoden IV. After playing Suikoden Tactics I found myself wanting to play SIV to refreash myself with the game. I'm not sure If I'll actually commit myself and beat the game, but playing a new game + helps in the fact I retain all my items that aren't equiped, potch (money) and the world map is complete. I hated filling in the dark areas of that stupid map.

So far It's not as bad as I remembered. Atleast the voice acting isn't so bad.