Condemned 2: Bloodshot - Gen Discussion & Info [Mobile/Archive]

Weedy649

05-10-2007, 02:50 PM

Condemned 2 Bloodshot was officially announced today at Sega's Gamer Day.

Ive yet to beat the first one(actually just got it back from lending it to a friend). Its also coming to PS3 this time around. Hopefully they'll have a full 1000 set this time around :o

Edit: IGN says its coming in early 2008 and will have several online modes!!!

The follow up to the well received Condemned: Criminal Origins has finally been officially announced by SEGA. Condemned 2: Bloodshot continues the first-person, hand-to-hand combat horror experience in early 2008 for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 consoles. Once again, Monolith will be responsible for developing the title, ensuring that the same level of creepiness will make it into the sequel.

Condemned 2: Bloodshot puts players in the identity of Ethan Thomas, a former Serial Crimes Unit investigator. His former partner has gone missing, forcing him to be called back to duty. Ethan's disturbing past has left him a shell of his former self, described by SEGA as a "desperate burnout" who is forced to fight inner demons throughout his investigation.

The sequel will feature an new fighting system that adds defensive and offensive combos along with grapples and holds to the already present arsenal of firearms and blunt tools. New forensic tools are also being promised that allow murders to be solved in a number of different ways.

Perhaps the biggest surprise of the announcement is that Condemned 2: Bloodshot will include several online multiplayer modes, including a deathmatch variant. Get your arms ready to swing pipes online.

captmurphy

05-10-2007, 02:55 PM

Condemned was an excellent game... I hope the sequal can maintain its quality standard. Maybe they should grab the Darkness engine from Starbreeze; the games look like they share a lot of qualities as far as mood and lighting are concerned.

Wombat

05-10-2007, 02:57 PM

I so happy I could burst

Corvin

05-10-2007, 02:57 PM

I so happy I could burst

Amen to that. Now if only we could get a Second Sight sequel! Maybe something with Wii controls.

doubledown

05-10-2007, 03:02 PM

Excellent news....Had this game at launch, one of the best single player games I played in a while.

Tha Xecutioner

05-10-2007, 03:05 PM

Here's to hoping that this one is more than 5-6 hours long (although, I can't complain..the first one was most awesome)

shieryda

05-10-2007, 03:15 PM

I wonder if the sequel will have the same pants-pissing effects that the first one did. I soiled myself several times!

Mr. Anderson

05-10-2007, 03:16 PM

Sweet, glad to see a decent Sega game getting a sequel. I'll make it a point to play through the first one before this sucker drops.

Corvin

05-10-2007, 03:17 PM

big thumbs down to multiplayer. This game was the epitome of a single player experience. I'd hate to see the single player game suffer because time was spent on a half-assed MP experience.

Walt Jay

05-10-2007, 03:21 PM

Great news. I loved the first one and will definitely check this out. It's cool to see them continue the storyline of the original game.

Once again, Monolith will be responsible for developing the title, ensuring that the same level of creepiness will make it into the sequel.

Thank god for that! Playing Condemned several times through has numbed me to all other survival horror games. I wonder what they'll do to raise the bar.

nonggame

05-10-2007, 03:21 PM

Played and beat the first one. I was good but one thing that I don't get the ending. Could someone explain it to me. You know at the very end when the main char. looks at the mirror and you know what ^___^;

benjamouth

05-10-2007, 03:26 PM

Sweet, if it's as good as the first one I'll be all over this.

asianxcore

05-10-2007, 03:36 PM

Awesome news. Loved the first game.

AshesofWake

05-10-2007, 03:36 PM

i seriously just creamed myself. Condemned is one of my favorite games of all time, god damn i loved it.

LinkinPrime

05-10-2007, 03:45 PM

So whatever happened to the missing achievement points of the first one?

benjamouth

05-10-2007, 03:50 PM

So whatever happened to the missing achievement points of the first one?

Well are they missing, there's a few games that don't have 1000 points.

I think the Achievement points were pretty glitched when this first came out, maybe they thought there was 1000, then patched it and dropped it to 970.

05-10-2007, 03:54 PM

Cool, Loved the first one.

cgarb84

05-10-2007, 04:03 PM

This is sweet news. I loved the first one mostly because of the great feeling combat and the unbelievably creepy atmosphere. Hopefully this new one will meet and exceed the first one's quality.

VanillaGorilla

05-10-2007, 04:10 PM

seanr1221

05-10-2007, 04:26 PM

Great news!!

InuFaye

05-10-2007, 04:28 PM

I could not be more excited about this game, condemened was easily one of the creepiest and most atmospheric games i have ever played.

I do not think the single player will be compromised in terms of multiplayer, monolith will probably have more of the same(which is a good thing) in the single player expirence with some new features added to it.

Here is to a Great 2008 that is already shaping up for the 360.

anomynous

05-10-2007, 04:29 PM

1st day buy

Corvin

05-10-2007, 04:51 PM

I don't need to know anything about it, other than it exists, and I know I want it. Condemned was easily my favorite 360 launch game, and one of those games that, 5 years from now, is gonna be looked at as a classic.

Agreed on both counts.

Q-man(rumor page) in EGM mentioned this was in the works about a year ago. I wonder how far along the game is.

depascal22

05-10-2007, 05:24 PM

This is great. I'm all for more survival horror on the 360. Maybe Condemned will be the 360's Silent Hill. Hell, after the sequel, Condemned might be #2 only to Resident Evil.

Brak

05-10-2007, 06:46 PM

I'm Condemned's bitch.

tiredfornow

05-11-2007, 08:42 PM

man, I was playing this game thinking 'how awesome would it be to pop around a corner and wack your friend in the face with a crowbar or something on Live' and HERE WE ARE, MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED!

thamaster24

05-11-2007, 09:02 PM

Now if we could get a release date for Alan Wake, we'd be set for horror/suspense games.

Can't wait til this comes out.

Scorch

05-11-2007, 09:18 PM

The absolute first 360 game that I bought, and one of only two games that I bought at full price and kept (the other being NFS: Most Wanted). I will buy this day one.

Logg

05-11-2007, 10:15 PM

I played the game a little on PC and dug it. Now that I have a 360 and its went down in price, I am playing on picking this up and playing the first one soon.

Ebraum

05-11-2007, 10:22 PM

I still have to finish the first. I play this game in spurts. Didn't think it sold that well, so this is great news. One of the creepiest games ever.

rabbitt

05-12-2007, 07:21 PM

I still need the first.

deadite76

06-05-2007, 12:28 PM

Sega and Monolith Q&A from IGN:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/794/794101p1.html

RollingSkull

06-05-2007, 03:30 PM

Amen to that. Now if only we could get a Second Sight sequel! Maybe something with Wii controls.

Bah, everything SS did, MGS, 007:EoN, or Psi-Ops did better.

Corvin

06-05-2007, 04:47 PM

Bah, everything SS did, MGS, 007:EoN, or Psi-Ops did better.

Gameplay maybe. Story no. Especially comparing to Psi-Ops. Psi-Ops had better powers and was more fun to dick around with, but SS's story blew it out of the water and used the powers more to fit the story instead of just an arsenal of weapons.

Does that make sense?

Don't know how it compares to MGS, haven't played those.

RollingSkull

06-05-2007, 05:24 PM

SS had an alright story, but I pretty much figured the entire thing out since the first flashback.

The difference between SS's powers and Psi-Ops powers were pretty much "You become a master psychic dood." vs. "You are/were a master psychic dood." The story would have been pretty much the same without them.

I will grant you, though, that SS did provide a more interesting story than the average game (Beats MGS2's ;) ), and Free Radical, as usual, does Victorian architecture pretty well.

But, there's nothing in the gameplay there that is exemplary. Psi powers? Psi-Ops. Stealth and tranqing as an alternative to killing? MGS. Cover-based third-person shooting? EoN, though that sniper scope was pretty cool.

LinkinPrime

06-29-2007, 07:21 PM

Looks like Sam Fisher will play a part of Condemned 2:
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8595/condemned2bloodshot2007kv7.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8595/condemned2bloodshot2007kv7.jpg)
:lol:

crunchb3rry

10-03-2007, 03:45 PM

New shots up at IGN. I just hope it has cool levels like that apple orchard in the first one.

darthbudge

10-03-2007, 04:45 PM

Man I can't wait for this, I hope it is like 5x scarier then the original.

VipFREAK

10-03-2007, 04:58 PM

I tried the PC demo a long time ago and was disappointed so I might not play this one either. FEAR 2 on the other hand...

Requiem

10-03-2007, 05:30 PM

Multiplayer will get really interesting. Melees galore

crunchb3rry

10-03-2007, 10:08 PM

Multiplayer is a waste effort for a lot of these kind of games though. It's usually stuff people play the piss out of for about 2 hours and never go back. Games like Halo 3, Team Fortress 2, and Call of Duty 4 are going to make it an uphill battle for games to collect a persistent online crowd.

Sofa King Kool

01-14-2008, 05:53 PM

Apparently the trailer has been released. I had no idea it was out already, I just stumbled upon it on YouTube.

I cannot fucking wait to play this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5L6Dp1vndA&feature=user

wildnuts02

01-14-2008, 06:04 PM

looks awesome :)

trq

01-14-2008, 06:09 PM

Sofa King Kool

01-14-2008, 06:13 PM

Excellent ...

... kind of looks like they're stretching to tie it to the first, though -- not sure how one would get to this game after the ending(s) from the first game. And is that a new voice for Ethan?

Yeah, that's a new voice. Don't care for it much :/

Honestly, I don't care if the story is any good. As long as I get to explore more grungy, abandoned, urban areas filled with depraved crack addicts, I'll be all set.

pimpinc333

01-14-2008, 06:22 PM

Can't wait to play it. Condemned was one of the best launch titles ever for the 360.

Malik112099

01-14-2008, 08:31 PM

anomynous

01-14-2008, 08:56 PM

Well the guy who voiced Ethan in the 1st one is Matt Parkman on Heroes, so he's probably busy.

asianxcore

01-14-2008, 09:08 PM

Well the guy who voiced Ethan in the 1st one is Matt Parkman on Heroes, so he's probably busy.

Wow. Greg Grunberg was the voice of Ethan? That's awesome.

That trailer is pretty sweet. Did Ethan throw a baby in that trailer? :)

Sofa King Kool

01-14-2008, 09:50 PM

Wow. Greg Grunberg was the voice of Ethan? That's awesome.

That trailer is pretty sweet. Did Ethan throw a baby in that trailer? :)

Yes. I'm also pretty sure a baby exploded somewhere towards the end.

Sofa King Kool

01-14-2008, 10:10 PM

Ice2Dragon

01-14-2008, 10:54 PM

Hopefully itll be longer than the first one.. much longer..

Or give us a multiplayer option.. thatd be pretty fun

Monsta Mack

01-14-2008, 10:58 PM

My name is Ethan Thomas, no relation to Sam Fisher. But I to am a... EMO!

After watching that trailer twice the AI even reacted the same as the first one. My hopes aren't too high for this one, but hopefully the online death match is decent enough to extend the replay value a bit. Doubt I'll pick it up at full price considering It's releasing next to Vegas 2.

Rei no Otaku

01-14-2008, 11:02 PM

I don't want it to change much. I was content with the first game, and will be picking this up at release. Hopefully the plot keeps me just as interested.

Sofa King Kool

01-15-2008, 12:47 AM

Woah! Release date is March 14?! I had no idea it was so close! I've been so pre-occupied with CoD4 and Brawl updates that I haven't been keeping an eye on this game. Awesome!

Or give us a multiplayer option.. thatd be pretty fun
Multiplayer is confirmed, although there's no word yet if it will be anything more than a shallow bashfest.

I don't want it to change much. I was content with the first game, and will be picking this up at release.
Same. I thought the AI in the first game was just fine.

whoknows

01-15-2008, 12:49 AM

Box art has been released as well. You can also find a ton of screenshots here (http://www.insidegamer.nl/playstation3/condemned2bloodshot/screenshots/).

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd139/joeamir/condem1.jpg
Uh oh, the cover resembles the Manhunt 2 cover (and that game sucked ass), hope that's not a sign for this game :hot:

Ice2Dragon

01-15-2008, 02:19 AM

Uh oh, the cover resembles the Manhunt 2 cover (and that game sucked ass), hope that's not a sign for this game :hot:

yeah, yeah it did. Biggest waste of 40 bucks ever. I hope rockband issues me a refund.

VipFREAK

01-15-2008, 02:23 AM

lool, What did you expect especially since it was either PS2 or Wii? $40? wow...

trq

01-15-2008, 03:01 AM

Yeah, that's a new voice. Don't care for it much :/

Honestly, I don't care if the story is any good. As long as I get to explore more grungy, abandoned, urban areas filled with depraved crack addicts, I'll be all set.

Agreed. Which is why I'm a bit wary that they seem to be jumping right to the supernatural stuff. The first game didn't even really confirm the supernatural element until ... the last level? Seems a shame to put it out in the open so quickly here.

crunchb3rry

01-15-2008, 04:08 AM

That last level in Condemned was badass. Creeped my ass out more than any of the others. Especially when you went in the basement where enemies seemed to actually respawn.

Slate

01-15-2008, 03:52 PM

That last level in Condemned was badass. Creeped my ass out more than any of the others. Especially when you went in the basement where enemies seemed to actually respawn.

Wrap the spoiler tags around it.

h3llbring3r

01-15-2008, 04:01 PM

I so happy I could burst

In all seriousness I can't wait. As sloppy as some of those controls were that was a great game. I jumped several times, and my brother quit playing it after one late night marathon that resulted in a serious nightmare for him.

The multi-player element alone has got my mouth watering.

You take the 2x4 and I'll take my steam fitting and let's go at it, ahh stabbed with a bottle or whacked with a shop placard- fun, fun, fun! As long I get to taser newbs I am good to go.

h3llbring3r

01-15-2008, 04:10 PM

Agreed. Which is why I'm a bit wary that they seem to be jumping right to the supernatural stuff. The first game didn't even really confirm the supernatural element until ... the last level? Seems a shame to put it out in the open so quickly here.

I seem to disagree with your assessment of the trailer it seems to me that there is the question again about what is supernatural and what is Ethan's distorted perception of "reality" and what maybe a hallucination (either his alone or mass psycosis) or some other form of mental illness or dementia, that's why it was such an enthralling dark peek into this guys noggin. This is reinforced by his hallucination with the medication slurry and his pounding in the face of the demonic-zombie type who turn out just to be some normal guy/ random at the wrong place and the wrong time.

Rei no Otaku

01-15-2008, 04:51 PM

Also the developers have said that his alcoholism will play a part in the gameplay. So I'm guessing a lot of those supernatural things we saw in the trailer are probably due to that.

Corvin

01-15-2008, 04:57 PM

Box art has been released as well. You can also find a ton of screenshots here (http://www.insidegamer.nl/playstation3/condemned2bloodshot/screenshots/).

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd139/joeamir/condem1.jpg

My most anticipated game of this year. I can't wait... but I must ask, it's called Bloodshot, the character has a drinking problem and the giant eye on the cover isn't, you know, bloodshot?

h3llbring3r

01-15-2008, 04:58 PM

Also the developers have said that his alcoholism will play a part in the gameplay. So I'm guessing a lot of those supernatural things we saw in the trailer are probably due to that.

This is a great "adult" (in the non-pornographic sense) title. I wish more games had the depth and gravitas of this game. (Although I might be a bit premature in saying that.)

PyroGamer

01-18-2008, 04:08 PM

Is it just me, or does this game look like a set up to one big disappointment? Just the whole feel of the game I've gotten from the previews and trailers, and the fact that it's a sequel, make me pretty wary of this game.

Condemned: Criminal Origins was a fucking amazing game, but this game... I'm a bit worried about.

InuFaye

01-18-2008, 04:16 PM

I want to love you condemend 2.
Please let me love you.
Dont break my heart.
Neither my wallet also,
Please be on sale when you come out.

Mr Durand Pierre

01-18-2008, 07:48 PM

I'm on the fence about this one as the whole being able to punch thing sounds like it'll be more of a beat-'em-up than a survival horror title. The multiplayer aspect adds to this suspicion as well. I liked the first one for the most part, but I'm unconvinced that this will be any better and it could very well be worse.

Sofa King Kool

01-19-2008, 11:20 AM

IGN's multiplayer hands-on.
(http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/846/846361p1.html)

deadite76

02-28-2008, 12:35 PM

Demo coming soon....

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/02/28/condemned-2-bloodshot-demo-inbound/

02-28-2008, 12:47 PM

Day 1 purchase for me.

03-05-2008, 05:35 PM

Anyone hear anything on the demo? Not thats its going to change my mind or anything.

Snake2715

03-05-2008, 05:43 PM

I will sit this one out until I get some feedback from here. I need a good survival horror, not another beat em up FPS.

Mr Durand Pierre

03-05-2008, 07:34 PM

The 1up show preview of this game makes me curious and rather excited about it. I thought the first one was pretty good, but nothing special at all. It was short, linear, offered little variety whatsoever and almost no replay value, but was very good at the one thing that it did. In other words, it was a good game for $15. But I wouldn't have expected the sequal to be worth more than $50.

I was also a bit worried about the revamped combat as it sounded like it would be more of a beat-'em-up, but from what I gather Condemned 2 will have a lot more gameplay variety than the first, including stealth elements, on-rails shooting, and lots of optional puzzles with multiple solutions. It also sounds like it will be a lot longer with more variety to the environments. This may all be speculative, but if it lives up to what they're saying it will really improve upon its' predecessor in every way and could really be something great. Here's hoping anyway. Can't wait for some real reviews.

BigT

03-05-2008, 10:03 PM

As long it has the same dark and disturbing atmosphere as the first one, I'm in!

Sofa King Kool

03-06-2008, 09:59 AM

EGM gave it some good scores. I'll try to find a scan of the article.

h3llbring3r

03-06-2008, 01:57 PM

Here's the verdicts:

G. Ford: A-
Nick: B+
David: B

Good: Combat, Creeps, Collecting Evidence
Bad: Checkpoints, Multiplayer, Last Levels
The M-Rated Boost: Booze relaxes the trigger finger

Personally, I think the multiplayer sounds good.

pimpinc333

03-06-2008, 01:59 PM

MinDistortionz

03-06-2008, 04:19 PM

Wow, can't wait for this one to come out. I really do think that Condemned was a great game. The atmosphere really made me play on the edge of my seat, and sadly I must say I was even a bit jumpy at times. I'm surprised more people never picked this one up. Hell i picked this up well after a yr of it being out and was considered old for a 360 game. One of the best purchases since i only paid $20 at the time. Hope Bloodshot lives up to the original and surpasses the first in terms of on the edge of your seat fun!

GLOCKGLOCK

03-06-2008, 05:48 PM

Anyone hear anything on the demo? Not thats its going to change my mind or anything.

I just received an email from Xbox Flash that had the demo featured in it, but I don't think it has made it onto XBL yet. Anyone check today?

Rei no Otaku

03-06-2008, 05:56 PM

Only that baseball demo up last I checked...

03-06-2008, 07:20 PM

I just received an email from Xbox Flash that had the demo featured in it, but I don't think it has made it onto XBL yet. Anyone check today?

I'll check when I get home later. Thanks.

KwanzaaTimmy

03-09-2008, 07:00 PM

As far as I've seen--- the demo will not be up by the 12th. Apparently the game is getting pushed back for the EU as well.

anomynous

03-09-2008, 09:39 PM

They have a video up on Gamespot UK interviewing one of the developers, and he was playing it. You can kick & kill "influenced" babies, then use them as weapons:

http://www.gamespot.com/video/939452/6186083/on-the-spot--02-14-08

It's around 18:09

AshesofWake

03-09-2008, 09:41 PM

im so sad....i want to play this game SO badly, but so poor

*cries in corner*

bardockkun

03-09-2008, 09:43 PM

anomynous

03-09-2008, 09:56 PM

Alright, basically sold now...

Better hope Jack Thompson & all the news outlets don't hear about this

Rei no Otaku

03-09-2008, 10:18 PM

slickkill77

03-09-2008, 10:24 PM

This game was delayed until April right?

Rei no Otaku

03-09-2008, 10:26 PM

This game was delayed until April right?
No. Comes out Wednesday.

slickkill77

03-09-2008, 10:30 PM

Oh nvm the delay was only for Europe

Sofa King Kool

03-09-2008, 11:04 PM

Oh nvm the delay was only for Europe

I'm so happy to hear that. I was worried for a minute there. I'm so excited for this game. I can't believe there's another game cool enough to actually take me away from Brawl.

That head crushing sequence was fucking awesome. I love how everyone just started laughing/clapping once they realized what was about to happen. I lol'd when the achievement thing popped up. How the hell did this game get an "M" rating? That part alone was worse than anything I saw in Manhunt 2.

Monsta Mack

03-10-2008, 12:44 AM

Kill babies? That's a little risky. Fable was supposed to have children killing but it had to get pulled otherwise it would have been recalled. I might have to invest in getting this game earlier before it gets pulled.

Mr Durand Pierre

03-10-2008, 04:21 AM

Were those dead babies? I thought they were just dolls. Though my respect for the game would go up a hundred fold if you really could use dead babies as a weapon.

Rei no Otaku

03-10-2008, 04:30 AM

I also liked how he mentioned that Ethan's drinking with affect the game. Though I wonder how exactly they'll work that in. Are there bottles of alcohol lying around you can drink or something?

moojuice

03-10-2008, 10:58 AM

The multiplayer modes seem interesting, its just too bad that it'll probably only last a week until vegas.

Brak

03-10-2008, 03:39 PM

bardockkun

03-10-2008, 07:03 PM

They're dolls.
Be it babies or dolls, I DON'T CARE! Something is going to get kicked in the face then explode when I toss them at other babies/dolls/whatever.

Sofa King Kool

03-10-2008, 09:15 PM

Can someone post an article or something confirming that the April 4th delay was only for Europe? I'm still a bit worried, and I really don't want to go all the way to Best Buy tomorrow only to find out it's been delayed.

pimpinc333

03-10-2008, 09:31 PM

Rei no Otaku

03-10-2008, 09:32 PM

Just check any US retailer's site. They still have it listed as shipping tomorrow.

Also you won't find it at Best Buy tomorrow. You won't find it anywhere until Wednesday.

Sofa King Kool

03-10-2008, 11:34 PM

Also you won't find it at Best Buy tomorrow. You won't find it anywhere until Wednesday.

:-s

Doesn't stuff usually come out on Tuesdays? What would push it to Wednesday?

thrustbucket

03-10-2008, 11:39 PM

:-s

Doesn't stuff usually come out on Tuesdays? What would push it to Wednesday?

Stuff almost always gets SHIPPED on Tuesday's, to prevent stores from selling it early. The stuff you see hit shelves on Tuesday's was shipped the weekend before, usually.

So the only stores that have a chance to be selling it tomorrow are the ones that are within driving distance of a distributor.

Calamityuponthee

03-10-2008, 11:44 PM

:-s

Doesn't stuff usually come out on Tuesdays? What would push it to Wednesday?

Games usually ship on Tuesday. Meaning they will be at the store usually the day after.

The only time games come out on there release date is if they are street dated, meaning they ship the game to the store early and they can't sell it until the specified date.

Sofa King Kool

03-10-2008, 11:46 PM

Stuff almost always gets SHIPPED on Tuesday's, to prevent stores from selling it early. The stuff you see hit shelves on Tuesday's was shipped the weekend before, usually.

So the only stores that have a chance to be selling it tomorrow are the ones that are within driving distance of a distributor.

I think I'll still end up driving around looking for it. Some sites are listing it as being available in store on the 11th. I remember when Assassin's Creed came out, I called Toys R' Us and asked if they had it, and they told me 'not until tomorrow'. I called back about two minutes later and got a different guy, and he told me it was already on the shelf.

Worth a shot. I'm ready to beat up some babies.

thrustbucket

03-11-2008, 02:56 AM

Wish I could get to CC for the free game but with my schedule and supply, that's not a likely scenario.

Snake2715

03-11-2008, 10:01 AM

yeah you know they cant make it like movies and have them on the shelves Tuesday mornings consistently.

Sofa King Kool

03-11-2008, 03:28 PM

No luck finding it today. All the stores I went to told me tomorrow. Oh well, I just play Brawl some more.

h3llbring3r

03-11-2008, 04:18 PM

I checked the BB & CC in 2 towns neither have any.

Rei no Otaku

03-11-2008, 04:21 PM

Ship date is today...

pimpinc333

03-11-2008, 05:34 PM

Ship date is today...

:lol:

bardockkun

03-11-2008, 05:35 PM

Ship date is today, but CC ad doesn't say it'll be on sale until tomorrow.

gobz

03-11-2008, 06:20 PM

I ordered it from Amazon w/ prime 2 day shipping... Unfortunately I won't get it till next monday for some strange reason. Kinda a bummer but Smash Brothers should hold me till then

h3llbring3r

03-11-2008, 08:39 PM

Yea, well I preordered SSBB and still don't have it. CC gets me 2X.

Sofa King Kool

03-12-2008, 04:57 PM

Just bought it. Time to turn off the lights, cover the windows, and pop it in the 360.

pimpinc333

03-12-2008, 04:59 PM

Just bought it. Time to turn off the lights, cover the windows, and pop it in the 360.

:D I'm jealous :( I won't pick it up til Friday or Saturday. Damn Work!

OGHowie

03-12-2008, 06:36 PM

Just bought it. Time to turn off the lights, cover the windows, and pop it in the 360.

Let us know how it is.

I'm trying to trade Army of Two for it in the trading forums.

ReturnofBoltz

03-12-2008, 06:43 PM

Just got it myself, about to sit down and play for a bit. Just to let you guys know, Fry's has it for $49.99 in their weekly ad (got it in the Atlanta Journal Constitution--I'm staying in GA for awhile) anyways I PM'd at BB and got the $10 gift card as well. So on top of saving $10 (more with my reward certs) I got a GC too. Not too bad. I don't have a scanner or I'd scan the ad.

OGHowie

03-12-2008, 06:55 PM

Rei no Otaku

03-12-2008, 07:18 PM

Just picked up my copy. Stacked the GS $10 off coupon with my employee discount, and got it for $40!

Sofa King Kool

03-12-2008, 08:17 PM

Eh. I haven't even started playing it yet. As soon as I got home, I had a horrible (and completely understandable) urge to play Brawl. I've been playing it up until now. I'm currently eating my dinner, but as soon as I'm done, I'll load it up and post impressions.

Scorch

03-12-2008, 08:33 PM

The first level better not be any indication of the rest of the game.

The entire level is fucking dark filled with some "evil" that's growing around the city. You'll encounter lots of tar-covered silhouettes that make a gross squish sound when you hit them and they explode. Near the end of the level, everything is covered in the black shit, things come down at you from the ceiling and it's just generally what-the-fuck-is-going-on.

NOTE TO SEGA: PEOPLE COVERED IN BLACK TAR-LIKE SUBSTANCES IN ALREADY DARK VIDEO GAMES LEADS TO FRUSTRATION

The combat and mechanics are the same, the combo strings are really awesome, combat is there, and now you can basically bum-rush people (run, hit attack and he basically elbows/shoves them).

I'm about to start the second level and hope it gets better.. The first one was great with the creepiness factor, but the aforementioned stuff just made the first level extremely unrealistic.

//edit: The second level is much better. It goes back to the basics: dark hallways, ambient noises, screams and footsteps from somewhere in the distance and louder as they approach.. this is the Condemned I know and love. I jumped so hard at one moment that the controller almost flew out of my hands.. awesome!

Poor2More

03-12-2008, 08:38 PM

This game is AWESOME......looking while in the sealed Case, Im hesistant to opening it even though I got Condemned 1 for free with it

OGHowie

03-12-2008, 08:41 PM

Is it better to play part 1 in order to get the story?

pimpinc333

03-12-2008, 08:47 PM

The first level better not be any indication of the rest of the game.

The entire level is fucking dark filled with some "evil" that's growing around the city. You'll encounter lots of tar-covered silhouettes that make a gross squish sound when you hit them and they explode. Near the end of the level, everything is covered in the black shit, things come down at you from the ceiling and it's just generally what-the-fuck-is-going-on.

NOTE TO SEGA: PEOPLE COVERED IN BLACK TAR-LIKE SUBSTANCES IN ALREADY DARK VIDEO GAMES LEADS TO FRUSTRATION

The combat and mechanics are the same, the combo strings are really awesome, combat is there, and now you can basically bum-rush people (run, hit attack and he basically elbows/shoves them).

I'm about to start the second level and hope it gets better.. The first one was great with the creepiness factor, but the aforementioned stuff just made the first level extremely unrealistic.

From what I have been reading they really take this game to a whole new level on the sci fi shit. In Condemned I really liked the first 3/4 of the game when you are solving the murder plot and fighting random doped up thugs. Then when you start to fight the crazy shit with the metal jaws and teeth it really starts to go downhill for me. I hope 2 isn't all filled with that shit. But like I said from what I have been reading it seems so. :(

Scorch

03-12-2008, 08:53 PM

From what I have been reading they really take this game to a whole new level on the sci fi shit. In Condemned I really liked the first 3/4 of the game when you are solving the murder plot and fighting random doped up thugs. Then when you start to fight the crazy shit with the metal jaws and teeth it really starts to go downhill for me. I hope 2 isn't all filled with that shit. But like I said from what I have been reading it seems so. :(

If this is the case, I'll have no problem returning it. I want more of the stuff from Condemned, not insane sci-fi stuff

pimpinc333

03-12-2008, 08:57 PM

If this is the case, I'll have no problem returning it. I want more of the stuff from Condemned, not insane sci-fi stuff

If you check the screen shots from EGM thats basically what they posted. There is also a screen of a big Metal Boss?!!? WTF?!?! lol It seems Ethan is becomign a super hero or some shit.

I hope I like the game though :D

Rei no Otaku

03-12-2008, 09:07 PM

I'm in the middle of the second level, and it's standard Condemned action thankfully. I do agree that the first level was kind of disappointing. Shit was TOO dark. Hopefully there aren't many more areas that are covered in that black stuff.

Sofa King Kool

03-12-2008, 09:37 PM

Just finished the first level. I agree with all the posts above me. I can't see a fucking thing. I had to turn up the brightness on the game, and it was still to dark.

That's not to say I didn't enjoy the first level, however. New combat mechanics are great, everything is still completely fubar. I don't know what difficulty setting you guys are playing on, but I died five times in the first level, on normal. I played the first game on normal and didn't have too much trouble until the later levels, but so far, this game seems considerably harder than the first.

Also, I recommend adjusting the sound before you start playing. The music is fucking loud as hell, I could barely hear what anyone was saying.

I'm going to check out the multi-player now.

Sofa King Kool

03-12-2008, 10:12 PM

Alright, multi-player is pretty much worthless. Most people didn't even bother picking up weapons, they just ran around like idiots wildly throwing their fists in the air. According to most review sites, there's only one good multi-player mode, and nobody was playing it. The maps are tiny, and there's juuust enough lag to make your attacks inaccurate. If you're planning on buying this game, don't have high hopes for the multi-player.

I forgot to ask. Are the sound effects acting all wonkey for for anybody else? Some of the sound effects seem to be....missing. For instance, during single player, a bum was shattering a window, and there was no shattering noise. It just broke silently while a bum came rushing through. This might just be because my 360 was acting strange when I put the disk in (disk started spinning slowly, then fast, then slow, etc).

KwanzaaTimmy

03-12-2008, 10:19 PM

Also, I recommend adjusting the sound before you start playing. The music is fucking loud as hell, I could barely hear what anyone was saying.

I agree on this-- I'm not playing on a 5.1 setup at the moment, and the sound is messed up substantially. I had to turn the subbies on just so I could figure out what the fuck was going on.

Played some of the Fight Club training-- thats pretty awesome actually, the guns seem fine- but with the current sound set up, the gun sounds are WAYYY off-- shit the .38 doesn't even make a noise. Getting much better with the melee/fist bumrush combos, which is both a good and a bad thing. It makes the combat much more engaging, but at the same time I'm not as scared running into hobo hot zones-- knowing that I can throw a brick at their dome and then tackle them and break their arm without much effort.

Multiplayer is actually pretty fun- Deathmatch is a total cluster fuck, but crime scene and survival are really fun (don't let the SCU guys get Assault Rifles though, they're overpowered to the max).

Sofa King Kool

03-12-2008, 10:31 PM

Multiplayer is actually pretty fun- Deathmatch is a total cluster fuck, but crime scene and survival are really fun (don't let the SCU guys get Assault Rifles though, they're overpowered to the max).

I would love to play crime-scene. But the only games available were deathmatches :(

Rei no Otaku

03-12-2008, 10:35 PM

We should get a game together for crime scene. If we have enough people that is.

Scorch

03-12-2008, 10:41 PM

Are the sound effects acting all wonkey for for anybody else? Some of the sound effects seem to be....missing.

Not that I noticed, but there's an instance where there's a guy on a megaphone from a helicopter that sounded dialed in.. sounded horrible. I think it may be your 360.

pimpinc333

03-12-2008, 11:11 PM

//edit: The second level is much better. It goes back to the basics: dark hallways, ambient noises, screams and footsteps from somewhere in the distance and louder as they approach.. this is the Condemned I know and love. I jumped so hard at one moment that the controller almost flew out of my hands.. awesome!

Ok this sounds good. I may pick it up tomorrow after work and screw around with the MP. My nephew wants me to play this when he goes on Easter Vacation. Can't touch the SP til Sat but playing the MP and going after them achievements should be fun.

Thanks for the info guys :D

Sofa King Kool

03-12-2008, 11:48 PM

Not that I noticed, but there's an instance where there's a guy on a megaphone from a helicopter that sounded dialed in.. sounded horrible. I think it may be your 360.

That's not good. Half the fun of scary games are the sound effects. The ambient noises, whispering behind you, and especially the 'jump out' moments. Hopefully it won't be so fucked up next time I turn it on.

We should get a game together for crime scene. If we have enough people that is.

I'm all for it, although, so far at least, it looks like me, you, KwanzaaTimmy and Scorch are the only CAGs playing...

KwanzaaTimmy

03-12-2008, 11:52 PM

I'm down for it. Gonna have some magic hour time with the single player though now that its dark and I can crank up the sound a bit.

Calamityuponthee

03-13-2008, 12:00 AM

I'd most likely already be close to finishing this game if my 360 wasn't RROD.

Unfortunately, the earliest I'll pop this sucker in is late next week.

shnizzle66

03-13-2008, 12:03 AM

Should I pick it up for 360 or PS3? I absolutely loved the 1st

slickkill77

03-13-2008, 12:12 AM

Its 360 exclusive is it not?

pimpinc333

03-13-2008, 12:15 AM

Its 360 exclusive is it not?

No. Ps3 version got delayed a week due to disc pressing issue's.

Scorch

03-13-2008, 12:16 AM

Its 360 exclusive is it not?

err, no. The PS3 version comes out next week.

crunchb3rry

03-13-2008, 12:38 AM

I just hope Meijer has it tomorrow. Tried today with no luck. Although it was probably in a box in the back because that store doesn't give two shits about running an efficient entertainment department.

Mojimbo

03-13-2008, 01:29 AM

Team Xbox has a nice decoder for most of the achievements.

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/15870/Condemned-2-Bloodshot-Achievements-Revealed/#

Mr Durand Pierre

03-13-2008, 03:04 AM

How is the combat in this game? Just about every review I've read seems to say it's an improvement over the first, but I have my concerns. See, in the first game enemies only took about 3 hits or so each, so the game flowed really well. In this game you have to use your fists much of the time and build up combos, which makes it sound as if enemies take more hits. I'm all for a high difficulty, but the truth of the matter is that once you're engaged in a fight it no longer becomes scary. The scary part is between fights when you know an enemy will soon pop out but you don't know when or from where. It sounds like this could be a case of Prince of Persia 2 where the combat system has a lot more depth, but it also has a lot more combat overall, making it get old faster. I thought even the first Condemned had at least a wee bit too much fighting and this sounds like it could be worse. So for those who have played it, does it still flow as quickly and is it as scary as the first, or is it more action oriented and less about scares?

Rei no Otaku

03-13-2008, 03:09 AM

The fighting is definitely more involved, but I haven't noticed fights taking any longer than the first game. There's just a lot more variation in what you can do. In fact, fights are over more quickly a lot of the time since you have some devestating combos at your disposal.

Warlock TCK

03-13-2008, 03:15 AM

I'm not a big fan of the new combat system. I think it has taken a bit away from the overall game and honestly... clicking the left stick for cross punches = frustration on my part. Also, both triggers for blocking? I liked how in the first one, it was attack with one button, block with the other. It worked pretty well and honestly was the best part of that combat system.

All in all, it's not a horrible game-it's just not the best game, either.

ReturnofBoltz

03-13-2008, 04:07 AM

I played through the first few levels earlier tonight and I'm really enjoying the game. I didn't really have a problem with the first level being so dark, the first game was pretty dark in a lot of areas too. I didn't notice it to the point where it was a problem. Maybe it was my TV, not sure.

I really like the investigative stuff in this one. Not gonna spoil anything but the in-depth responses and evidence finding is fun (to me at least). The combat at certain times can be a little frustrating especially on the hard difficulty and having no weapon. I think the game is solid though, definitely glad I picked it up (so far).

Sofa King Kool

03-13-2008, 10:06 AM

Rei no Otaku

03-13-2008, 01:32 PM

I'm playing on normal, and the game is harder than the first. But once you get the combat system down, it's not that bad at all.

Scorch

03-13-2008, 02:10 PM

Hey, I'm starting to get those audio glitches too, but mostly with people when they're running towards me and yelling and whatnot. The sound cuts on a little too late.

I'm playing on normal and it's much harder (I'm not very far into it, I'm at the hotel.. just stepped outside the hotel and found a shotgun, actually).I couldn't understand why the combo system wasn't working until I figured out that even though the on-screen combo graphic shows the right trigger being clicked multiple times, you should only click it once. I've started off combos and it would then say hit either the right or left trigger, so I did multiple times, and they'd always block it. When I hit them just once, it works every time.

pimpinc333

03-13-2008, 05:38 PM

Any that has played. How is the Gunplay? I hope they didn't focus on adding more guns and more bullets to the mix.

ReturnofBoltz

03-13-2008, 06:12 PM

So, yeah, what difficulty level are you guys playing on? I'm playing on normal and I'm having a hard time. Do I just suck, or is the game actually a lot harder than the first? Like I said, I played the first on normal and didn't have any trouble until the later levels, but this one seems much more difficult.

I'm playing on hard and it's perfect for me. It's not too difficult where I'm dying every 10 seconds and not too easy where it's not much different than normal. I played through the first one twice and didn't really have much of a challenge so I started on hard this time. It's challenging enough to be fun but not frustrating.

Rei no Otaku

03-13-2008, 07:01 PM

Any that has played. How is the Gunplay? I hope they didn't focus on adding more guns and more bullets to the mix.
Not much gunplay at all. Just like the first game.

Razzuel

03-13-2008, 07:34 PM

I beat the first level last night and I am waiting for it to get dark again so I can play some more.

But yeah so far its awesome. I really like the new combat system and those slow motion beatdowns are insane.

Oh and the game is still fucking creepy. Black goo monsters are quite disturbing.

Mojimbo

03-13-2008, 07:35 PM

I'm on hard and I can't get past the part in the first level where there's a bunch of oil sack monsters on the roof and spawning from the oil clumps on the wall. Every time I try and kill the ones on top I get gangbanged from all sides from the ones on the ground.

Rei no Otaku

03-13-2008, 07:39 PM

For the guys on the ceiling, stand back and throw your weapon at them. In that room there's a pile of bricks that never runs out. Just use those.

Sofa King Kool

03-13-2008, 07:44 PM

I'm playing on normal, and the game is harder than the first. But once you get the combat system down, it's not that bad at all.

Well, I figured I'd get the hang of it eventually. I'm just thinking ahead to what the later levels are going to be like.

I was considering starting over on easy, but I guess I'll just continue on normal.

slickkill77

03-13-2008, 08:47 PM

I saw a review that said the last levels are really gun heavy

h3llbring3r

03-13-2008, 09:36 PM

I saw a review that said the last level are really gun heavy

The first game was like that. The very next to last level the field next to the farm house was gun heavy until the final boss fight.

I have also really enjoyed the multiplayer (color me suprised). It's not Halo or CoD4 but it's damn fun, and I have jumped a couple of times.

crunchb3rry

03-13-2008, 10:52 PM

The second to last level? The farmhouse? There wasn't a lot of gunplay there. Some enemies that come through the windows from outside have randomly chosen weapons, so maybe you just got a lot of guys with shotguns. For me it was fire axes on the last playthrough I remember.

EDIT: Oh, that field. I remember now. But it was just in the broken greenhouses. That one spot where you needed guns because a ninja and 3-4 fat guys rushed you at the same time.

Razzuel

03-13-2008, 10:52 PM

I just beat the second level and holy shit this game is very unsettling.

This game is awesome even though it scares the shit out of me.

Sofa King Kool

03-13-2008, 11:06 PM

I just beat the second level and holy shit this game is very unsettling.

I was just about to post that exact statement. Now that I've played the second level, I really, really don't want this game to descend back into the territory of the first level. I like fighting criminals, not spooky oil monsters.

I love the unnerving, crooked screeches you hear every time you bash somebody with a melee weapon. I get a little ping of fear every time I hear it. I never thought melee combat could any more badass than it was in the first Condemned, but Monolith found a way.

Darkside Hazuki

03-14-2008, 11:28 AM

Any that has played. How is the Gunplay? I hope they didn't focus on adding more guns and more bullets to the mix.

The pump shotgun has a lower damage rating than the pipe!

Rei no Otaku

03-14-2008, 12:56 PM

The pump shotgun has a lower damage rating than the pipe!
When it gives damage rating, I'm pretty sure they're comparing the melee damage. Not the bullet damage.

moojuice

03-14-2008, 02:02 PM

I can't find the last emmiter in the first level. I know what room its in, but I just can't find the thing. Help?

Rei no Otaku

03-14-2008, 02:33 PM

Sofa King Kool

03-14-2008, 04:28 PM

I can't find the last emmiter in the first level. I know what room its in, but I just can't find the thing. Help?

Check near the ceiling. They like to put them high up where you can only destroy them by throwing your weapon at it.

I had some trouble finding them as well, and since I'm not sure which one was last, I'll just list them so you can find it:

- There's the first one in the basement. That one's easy.
- There's one above a doorway to the right of where you see the oil monster things crowded around a dead body. You have to throw your weapon to hit it.
- There's one on a roof somewhere. It's the part where you throw a brick at the ladder hatch to climb up to the roof. Once you've fought off all the enemies, take a left from the ladder and it should be on the wall of the next building. You have to throw a brick at it.

Darkside Hazuki

03-14-2008, 06:23 PM

When it gives damage rating, I'm pretty sure they're comparing the melee damage. Not the bullet damage.

Ah, good point. I was too busy getting swarmed by little goo guys to think about that. Only played the first level, but I'm really enjoying this game.

Scorch

03-14-2008, 06:27 PM

This game is awesome even though it scares the shit out of me.

Same here. I play it in small doses :D

Sofa King Kool

03-14-2008, 06:33 PM

Is the third level as long as the second? I kinda want to play right now, but I don't want to be scared for too long today...

Razzuel

03-14-2008, 06:53 PM

Same here. I play it in small doses :D

Yeah I am playing it in small doses too, but since the weekend has arrived I might be playing in longer sessions as long as it doesn't ever get so scary that I have to turn it off for some time.

Is the third level as long as the second? I kinda want to play right now, but I don't want to be scared for too long today...

Um I have no idea, I just got home and I am waiting till it gets dark so I can shut the door and turn the sound up :D.

Also to that other guy, the guns are really powerful and when it says the pipe has better damage it means melee wise.

I wish I had a 5.1 system for this game. Once I get some money I need to get one, although I would have trouble deciding where to put the rear speakers.

Sofa King Kool

03-14-2008, 07:03 PM

Um I have no idea, I just got home and I am waiting till it gets dark so I can shut the door and turn the sound up :D.

Heh, I do that too :mrgreen:

I wish I had a 5.1 system for this game. Once I get some money I need to get one, although I would have trouble deciding where to put the rear speakers.

My solution was to just buy some really nice noise-canceling headphones. It's no substitution for surround sound, but not being able to hear anything but the game makes it a lot scarier.

Razzuel

03-14-2008, 07:16 PM

Heh, I do that too :mrgreen:
My solution was to just buy some really nice noise-canceling headphones. It's no substitution for surround sound, but not being able to hear anything but the game makes it a lot scarier.

Yeah I have some nice headphones for my PC since I am too cheap to buy a sound system for my PC when I have awesome headphones. Playing STALKER in the dark with the sound loud using the headphones really creeped me out.

There was this one area I was so creeped out that I played the CAGcast while I was playing so I wouldn't be so scared haha.

I should pick up a nice 5.1 system in May or something when I have been working full time for a couple weeks since this semester doesnt end till the middle of April.

Scorch

03-14-2008, 07:26 PM

Sofa King Kool

03-14-2008, 07:31 PM

oh fuck.. the mannequins are back on the train track level.. fuck.. i was like "hey that guy's not moving.. wtf.." so i walk up.. and hit him.. and turn around.. and they're everywhere!!

I'll have nightmares but this game is awesome

Yeah, that got ruined for me in the IGN review. I really wish I hadn't watched that, because the would've scared the shit out of me had I discovered it on my own.

DiscoDuck8k

03-14-2008, 07:31 PM

Sofa King Kool

03-14-2008, 07:42 PM

I probably won't get to play this for a while, but..

Is it scarier than the first game, or just kind of on-par? I remember Condemned being almost traumatizing in some locations (that department store was the very definition of pure evil).

I think this one is much scarier, personally. The second level was, as others have stated, unsettling. It's hard to explain. The first game induced a different brand of fear than the second game does. Even though there are more weapons available to you now, you somehow feel defenseless and vulnerable as you're playing.

The enemies are much more unpredictable than they were in the first. (I can't tell you how many times someone snuck up behind me in the second level). As a result, you feel...unsafe, when you're playing. It somehow gives you this impending fear that someone is right behind you, which causes you to keep turning around (in game) only to see a long, dark, empty hallway, which is somehow scarier than it would've been to see someone there.

It's awesome. You should buy it.

Scorch

03-14-2008, 07:56 PM

Is it scarier than the first game, or just kind of on-par?

Condemned 2 makes Condemned seem like Carnival Games.

DiscoDuck8k

03-14-2008, 08:14 PM

Oh really? Thanks for the info; sounds like a done deal then.

I'll have to pick it up as soon as I can.

Mr Durand Pierre

03-15-2008, 02:00 AM

Sofa King Kool

03-15-2008, 02:06 AM

I just played the first mission and was woefully disappointed. The combat seemed a lot less responsive than in the last game. There's too many moves and getting the timing down on all of them is really hard. Those oil guys are especially annoying. I liked how in the first one it was just attack and block, but now you need to throw in hook attacks and kicks and it just feels weird and wrong. It seems like too much of an action game and less about scares. Speaking of which, so far it is nowhere in the same league as the first one in terms of being scary. I'm only one mission in, so I hope it gets better.

Yeah, the second level destroys the first one. Just keep playing. It gets a lot scarier. And you will get the hang of the combat system. The first level was, obviously, mostly just a tutorial, so it requires you to pull off difficult combos. Once you're on the second level and you can fight at your own pace, you have a lot more fun.

mike.m

03-15-2008, 02:11 AM

I just played the first mission and was woefully disappointed. The combat seemed a lot less responsive than in the last game. There's too many moves and getting the timing down on all of them is really hard. Those oil guys are especially annoying. I liked how in the first one it was just attack and block, but now you need to throw in hook attacks and kicks and it just feels weird and wrong. It seems like too much of an action game and less about scares. Speaking of which, so far it is nowhere in the same league as the first one in terms of being scary. I'm only one mission in, so I hope it gets better.

Heh, I just saw your post on the gamefaqs board. Like I said there, you don't need to throw in hooks and kicks. There's different combos, once you get used to the timing of parries and attacks, it gets much better. The first level is some weird intro to it all too. I'm on the third level and its gotten pretty good.

Sofa King Kool

03-15-2008, 02:16 AM

I'll be starting the third level tomorrow. I was too tired today (going on about four hours of sleep), and I scare much easier when I'm tired, so I thought it best to wait. I'm going to sleep in tomorrow and probably spend the rest of the day playing this and Brawl.

Scorch

03-15-2008, 04:56 AM

I just played the first mission and was woefully disappointed. The combat seemed a lot less responsive than in the last game. There's too many moves and getting the timing down on all of them is really hard. Those oil guys are especially annoying. I liked how in the first one it was just attack and block, but now you need to throw in hook attacks and kicks and it just feels weird and wrong. It seems like too much of an action game and less about scares. Speaking of which, so far it is nowhere in the same league as the first one in terms of being scary. I'm only one mission in, so I hope it gets better.

I never throw in hook attacks and kicks. I play just like I did in the first, with the added bonus of the running elbow smash to stun the enemy.

Run, elbow smash, punch, punch, block, punch, punch, etc.

Sometimes I'll run up, to the elbow smash, follow with two punches, then hit punch again for a SMASH move or whatever it's called.

And the button timing isn't weird. For combos, what threw me off is that the icon shows that you need to mash the button over and over, but you don't. When it slows down and an icon appears, hit that button ONCE. If you hit it more than once, the enemy usually blocks it.

Ice2Dragon

03-15-2008, 06:58 AM

If it wasnt for the fact people dont know which team they're on..

How hard is it to notice if youre on the team with the clown faces.. or the non clown faces..?

Oh.. and the relentless usage of the fists.. good god.. I played five games. not one person ever used the damn weapons.. just fists..

Monsta Mack

03-15-2008, 09:57 AM

Condemned 2 makes Condemned seem like Carnival Games.

Shit! I loved the first one, but thanks to budget constraints I can't pick this up till It hits the $30's (the free copy at CC will only net me about $20 if im lucky on eBay) so I'm going to grab it then. Do you guys think the multiplayer is a complete throw away or redeeming? I'm hoping with $30 I can get some use out of the multiplayer.

Sofa King Kool

03-15-2008, 01:22 PM

Do you guys think the multiplayer is a complete throw away or redeeming? I'm hoping with $30 I can get some use out of the multiplayer.

If we can manage to get a 'crime scene' game going with just CAGs, it would probably be pretty fun.

h3llbring3r

03-15-2008, 01:27 PM

I probably won't get to play this for a while, but..

Is it scarier than the first game, or just kind of on-par? I remember Condemned being almost traumatizing in some locations (that department store was the very definition of pure evil).
Definitely a significant degree scarier.

If we can manage to get a 'crime scene' game going with just CAGs, it would probably be pretty fun.
That would be awesome. We could also work on some of the harder acheivements.

Mr Durand Pierre

03-15-2008, 02:04 PM

I got a little further into the game, beating the second mission, and it's gotten a little better, but not quite enough. There's still way too much obligatory combat for a horror game and so far I've been woefully underwhelmed by the investigation elements.

I was all excited when I heard that the game let you solve investigations yourself (the biggest missed opportunity in the original, I thought), but so far that's mostly included guessing highly subjective answers to completely arbitrary questions. Being scored on whether you say "There is a lot of blood," or "there's blood everywhere," is about the most rubbish idea of a "puzzle" I've come across in a game. Even worse, is that there are good ideas here, but they're executed so poorly that they would have been better left out completely. For example, there's that puzzle where you have to say what room number you're in, but the number has been scratched off the door. If the game let you enter the room number yourself whenever you wanted it would have been a well executed (albiet easy) puzzle. But instead you can only select the answer from a multiple choice selection that only pops up when you're looking at a specific important item. I could handle the multiple choice thing, but having the quizes so strictly structured that you have to find the hotspot where they pop up is just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why can't they just say "What's the cause of death?" and after you've looked at things yourself you could hit a button to go into answer mode? That's what I was hoping for, not the guesswork involved in this nonsense.

I'm not trying to flame the game as I really wanted to like it (I was on the verge of buying it day one), but I thought it was going to be like the first Condemned but with better combat and puzzles. And while it's added more depth to those, the new elements are all rather shoddy and take away a lot more than they add.

Mojimbo

03-15-2008, 02:37 PM

Scorch

03-15-2008, 02:40 PM

Are those oil monsters a big part of the game past the first level? I wonder if there's a finite amount of them because they seemed to be spawning infinitely towards the very end of the first level where there was a spout coming up the floor.

Not really. I'm on the fifth or sixth level and they're there again. But they haven't been a HUGE part of the game so far

Sofa King Kool

03-15-2008, 03:47 PM

Not really. I'm on the fifth or sixth level and they're there again. But they haven't been a HUGE part of the game so far

Good. Those things are a pain in the ass. They're not really scary, and not too much fun to fight either. Is everything still way too dark?

mike.m

03-15-2008, 07:36 PM

I'm on the doll factory. Stupid exploding dolls! :bomb:

Razzuel

03-15-2008, 09:41 PM

I'm on the doll factory. Stupid exploding dolls! :bomb:

Huh...I never had a problem with the dolls. If you run into one just kick it twice and it will fall apart.

Sofa King Kool

03-15-2008, 11:52 PM

I'm on the doll factory. Stupid exploding dolls! :bomb:

Also a pain in the ass. Not scary, just annoying.

Razzuel

03-16-2008, 03:47 PM

I just beat the game and I gotta say it was really awesome.

Sofa King Kool

03-16-2008, 03:49 PM

I just beat the game and I gotta say it was really awesome.

How many levels are there? I don't want to beat the game too quickly. I'm at the museum right now.

KwanzaaTimmy

03-16-2008, 04:24 PM

How many levels are there? I don't want to beat the game too quickly. I'm at the museum right now.

11, so you're a little more than halfway there.

Sofa King Kool

03-16-2008, 08:01 PM

Alright, I'm through a good portion of the game, and I have only one complaint:

Monolith, too grainy to see does not equal scary. Seriously, towards the end of the fifth level, I was running into walls. Before, it was hard to see because it was too dark. Now, it's too dark and the screen is all blurry and grainy. Can't see anything.

Razzuel

03-16-2008, 10:17 PM

Sofa King Kool

03-16-2008, 10:35 PM

What the SCU level?

....wat?

Razzuel

03-17-2008, 12:54 AM

....wat?

Huh haha? I meant are you talking about the level that takes place in the SCU building? Because the SCU level is really filter heavy. I thought the filters added a really cool effect to the game. Made it a lot more scarier for me and it was really freaking weird.

Sofa King Kool

03-17-2008, 08:25 AM

Huh haha? I meant are you talking about the level that takes place in the SCU building? Because the SCU level is really filter heavy. I thought the filters added a really cool effect to the game. Made it a lot more scarier for me and it was really freaking weird.

Oohhh, I thought you said "What's the SCU level." as if I could change a setting or something :lol:

Yeah, I meant the SCU level. Too many filters IMO. I couldn't see a damn thing. That, on top of shakey aiming, made hitting my target was pretty much nothing but luck.

PINKO

03-17-2008, 10:10 AM

ome on the 2nd or 3rd level i can't summit that im seeing a police hat is my game broken

03-17-2008, 02:08 PM

ome on the 2nd or 3rd level i can't summit that im seeing a police hat is my game broken

What??

Scorch

03-17-2008, 02:52 PM

11, so you're a little more than halfway there.

Wow, dude.

..that sucks! I didn't know it'd be this short

Razzuel

03-17-2008, 04:36 PM

Wow, dude.

..that sucks! I didn't know it'd be this short

??? I didn't think it was short at all. I thought the length was good.

anomynous

03-17-2008, 04:43 PM

I loved the 1st Condemned, but my friend rented this, I played it, and I don't like it as much

Don't know why, there's nothing wrong with the game

Sofa King Kool

03-17-2008, 04:50 PM

ome on the 2nd or 3rd level i can't summit that im seeing a police hat is my game broken

What??

Exactly what I was thinking...

Razzuel

03-17-2008, 07:14 PM

ome on the 2nd or 3rd level i can't summit that im seeing a police hat is my game broken

I think he is talking about the second level at Preston Hotel. After you follow the blood trail of the dead police officer you arrive at a door covered in blood with a hole from a gunshot. Next to the door is a police officers hat. You are supposed to describe the scene to Rosa but I guess this guy can't submit the evidence?

jkanownik

03-17-2008, 07:56 PM

I think he is talking about the second level at Preston Hotel. After you follow the blood trail of the dead police officer you arrive at a door covered in blood with a hole from a gunshot. Next to the door is a police officers hat. You are supposed to describe the scene to Rosa but I guess this guy can't submit the evidence?

From what I remember about the questions there, there is no reason to submit the police hat. Maybe its being nice and not letting you submit instead of letting you submit and then telling you that you did a poor job.

One thing that really isn't apparent in the game at first is that along with the choices of descriptions to submit with a specific evidence item, there are also choices in the evidence items to submit. Driver's licenses or badges are much better for making ID's than the sex of the victim or what kind of hat they are wearing. Make sure to move your curser over the entire crime scene area before you pick which pieces of evidence you want to submit.

Sofa King Kool

03-17-2008, 10:16 PM

Ragekod

03-17-2008, 11:09 PM

My girlfriend bought me this on Saturday, and I can't wait to begin playing it.

Razzuel

03-18-2008, 07:30 PM

Holy shit, getting the "Big Game Hunter" achievement was a pain in the ass. I was playing that level for a good two hours at least. Speaking of the snow level, the bear chase sequence was awesome. I saw the shadow of the bear on the wall, and said out loud "You have got to be fucking kidding me." I thought I was going to have to fight the thing, so the "RUN FOR YOUR LIFE" popping up on screen took me by surprise, and by the time I figured out where I was supposed to run, I was dead :(

I ended up getting the big game achievement in the Fight Club practice arena. Oh and yeah in the Black Lake Lodge level where you first encountered the bear I didn't know what to do either. It had more to do with me just thinking oh shit! and then getting eaten.

Sofa King Kool

03-18-2008, 08:35 PM

Awesome. I finally got me some nice noise canceling headphones to play with. So far, it's way scarier.

I ended up getting the big game achievement in the Fight Club practice arena.

Fuck! Are you serious?! If I had known I could do it there, I never would've spent so much time trying to get it at the lodge level! :bomb:

jkanownik

03-18-2008, 08:54 PM

You can get a lot of the achievements (Big Game, Flambe, EPA, Pipe and Chain) in the fight club. Headshots with the assault rifle make filling the chain meter much easier.

Sofa King Kool

03-18-2008, 10:39 PM

Holy shit. I assumed that since I had reached the level featuring all guns, I was nearing the end of the game, and it would be mostly gun fights from there on out.

I was wrong. Playing in complete darkness, with headphones, and sitting very close the screen is intense. I seriously thought I was going to have to stop playing once I got to SKX's torture chamber.

destinywaste

03-21-2008, 02:45 AM

Love the fact that you need to rely more on the environment for your weapons as opposed to usual run and gun type shooters. I haven't played the first nor can I remember playing any fps games of this kind. I usually dislike darkly lit games but the gloomy environment fits in perfectly for a game like Bloodshot.

Just passed the Doll House level. Wearing the gas mask actually gave a feeling of being suffocated. Hopefully the rest of the levels are as good if not better.

Scorch

03-21-2008, 03:08 AM

fuckin museum level..

03-21-2008, 03:09 AM

Just passed the Doll House level. Wearing the gas mask actually gave a feeling of being suffocated. Hopefully the rest of the levels are as good if not better.

I'm playing that level now and its freaky! Loving the game so far.

shnizzle66

03-21-2008, 03:37 AM

Doll House level is ridiculous, most of the levels are complicated as hell to figrue out where the fuck im going. Its super dark AND the buildings all look the same...Oh well, Ill play some more tomorow.

03-31-2008, 03:38 PM

I'm at the very end of level six. Damn its tough!

Bazz

04-01-2008, 07:10 PM

I like the game, but I liked the first better. The thing that is getting me mad is they F'ked with the Camera movement I don't remember getting motion sickness in the 1st one. Maybe it is the element of being a drunk though.

slickkill77

04-01-2008, 11:07 PM

I want to play/beat this game so badly before GTA 4. If anyone is done with it lmk and ill take it off your hands

crunchb3rry

04-01-2008, 11:59 PM

Bretters

04-02-2008, 12:26 AM

I wish they would have left out the multiplayer (multiplayer never survives more than a couple weeks if at all with these types of games) and spent that time and money improving the single player.

New combat system is nice, but the story and fear factor were extremely lacking.

MastaGamer

04-02-2008, 02:10 AM

If it were not for the Warrior Within treatment, I'd like this so much better. A solid game overall, but the first game was a bit better. No apple orchard farmhouse quality level here, revamped fighting system is a bit too sloppy, and the weapons are kinda corny (sawblade lollipop?). The first game was better because it was unconventional, while the second game is formulaic (again...Warrior Within treatment to appeal to a larger, albeit less intelligent, audience).

But I still like the game.

Yeah, I agree. The first one was more like the game was playing with you instead of vice-versa. And the Orchard level was just amazing. I still liked the different areas in 2, but it just doesn't feel as much as the psychological overload 1 was.

Scorch

04-02-2008, 02:45 PM

Whoever said the game gets to be an FPS in the later levels was dead on, but damn if I still didn't have a great time. Beat the game on Monday, loved every second of it. I'd trade it in, but I'm finally getting my HDTV in a few weeks, so it's going to be fun to play in HD with surround sound.

After you beat the game you unlock FPS mode.. it starts you with a gun at each level, and you have infinite ammo. If you pick up another gun, you'll have infinite ammo with that one as well.

Nelo Ice

04-02-2008, 05:53 PM

just picked this up at the gc sale :D

Mr Durand Pierre

04-02-2008, 06:06 PM

I beat this last night and was rather dissapointed. In most ways it was really a step back from its' predecessor. The first's game's story and script were nothing to write home about, but decent enough as it left a lot of the plot unexplained and mysterious. The story here gets really convoluted and turns into the worst kind of conspiracy theory sci-fi bullshit. And the voice-acting and characters are much stupider than they ever were before.

The game is also quite a bit less scary than the first and the later half of the game is a lot easier than the first half. Even the new elements don't work all that well. The combos give the combat extra depth, but that also means that there's more combat. This makes Condemned 2 a better action game than the first, but a worse horror game. Even the investigation elements a rather underwhelming as they generally fall into 2 camps: reitterating exactly what you're looking at, or making a random guess because the questions are too vague. There's little to no real puzzle solving here making you feel like they just as well could have not bothered.

The only thing that I liked better about Condemned 2 was the variety. The locales were a tad bit more varried than they were in the previous game, and even though the FPS stuff wasn't very scary, it did help the pacing a bit and thus it felt a little less monotonous than the first game. But that's about it. The first game wasn't great, but it felt like it was really onto something. This isn't it.

Nolimits

04-02-2008, 06:34 PM

I beat it this weekend, I liked it and I never played the 1st Condemned either. Ill probably play it again to try to Gold the missions. The little stuff they threw in there made it that much more fun, I always hung around the walkie talkies listening to all the police/guard talk, and on the museum level when the optional goal of taking pictures of the statues with the mouth pieces, I had no idea what that was for till the final mission.

By playing the game only at night and the volume turned up a bit, I was totally immersed in the game.

seanr1221

04-03-2008, 12:16 AM

I like it so far, but I'm getting pretty sick from the motion.

shnizzle66

04-03-2008, 12:43 AM

Am I insane or is there only 5 lines leaving the explosive lock to van horn's library or whatever it is? Im supposed to find 6 and theres only 5, wheres the 6th?

Scorch

04-03-2008, 01:13 AM

Am I insane or is there only 5 lines leaving the explosive lock to van horn's library or whatever it is? Im supposed to find 6 and theres only 5, wheres the 6th?

Use the UV light and go back to the door. The ones you've taken care of will be visible without the light. Turn on the light and follow the one that isn't visible without the light.

shnizzle66

04-04-2008, 12:37 AM

bingo, thanks.

Will hopefully finish it tomorow night. Im at the magicman place

Scorch

04-04-2008, 01:53 AM

bingo, thanks.

Will hopefully finish it tomorow night. Im at the magicman place

Yeah.. you're getting fairly close.

That level was disappointing.. it was short and easy..

Bazz

04-04-2008, 09:08 AM

I like it so far, but I'm getting pretty sick from the motion.Awesome I thought I was the only one with this issue. It seems they wanted the player to get the effect of being drunk.

destinywaste

04-04-2008, 02:00 PM

Got through this game a couple days ago. The game stales a bit in the last few missions. Wish Monolith realized that too dark isn't exactly scary or even eerie. There were numerous times when I was walking into walls...and the flashlight didn't help for sh!t. Overall, can't complain a great deal. The first half of the game was quite intense and loved every minute of it. Just wish it ended on a similar note. Will have to try out the first since a lot of posters have mentioned it being better in terms of the scare factor.

Nolimits

04-04-2008, 05:04 PM

Yeah.. you're getting fairly close.

That level was disappointing.. it was short and easy..

Yeah, I thought it was gonna be a cool level with that intro spinning fire thing when you step into the room, and was dissappointed over the whole level.

Got through this game a couple days ago. The game stales a bit in the last few missions. ... Overall, can't complain a great deal. The first half of the game was quite intense and loved every minute of it.

Your exactly right, especially the bosses too ?!? The 1st half bosses give me quite a thrill to play and beat The buildup of the walking to the Lodge where you keep hearing the rabid bear in the background then escaping it and the Museum level when the Knight almost kills you and you have to figure out what to do with him! compared to the latter half bosses were I was just like eh MagicMan sucked, killing the junkyard things was something out of Half Life, and final boss was way too easy like Bioshock

Thinking about it, they really built up the tension with the first two bosses, making you fear them, whilst the last ones, there was really no buildup at all

seanr1221

04-06-2008, 04:05 PM

I have to echo what everyone else is saying. It's a good game, it just fizzles out towards the end.

Great rental though.

04-06-2008, 06:47 PM

Finished this yesterday. Had fun with it. Probably going to give the FPS mode a go.

Calamityuponthee

04-10-2008, 08:21 PM

Anyone want to get some achievements online tonight or some other night? Add me.

Legit or boosting, doesn't matter to me.

Monsta Mack

04-19-2008, 01:51 AM

I like it so far, but I'm getting pretty sick from the motion.

I don't remember the motion being this bad in the first one, or maybe It's just me? I can play Vegas and Halo 3 for hours on end with no issues, but this game is making me stomach and head sick just like Oblivion did when I first got it. Game developers need to make it so you can take off "head bob" in options like some of the PC FPS's because I believe that's where my problems stems. Oh well, back to ginger root it seems.

I'm in the 5th chapter and I can say that this game is great but not quite up to the first games par, and that there are two things that are really bothering me right now

1) The voice acting. Why did they have to get all new voice actors? Emo Ethan is somewhat understandable but the first Ethan was so much better. Don't even get me started on Rosa who lost like 10 years on her life...

2) The Multiplayer is probably the worst I've seen in a FPS on the 360 so far, even more worst then Far Cry was with It's insane lag. Crime Scene seems ok, but this game needed another five months in development to make the multiplayer really work.

Still a really good game for $30, but It's heard to justify $60 on a single player FPS experience alone unless It's Half Life.

BTW Add me if you want to play some Multiplayer on Live and maybe you can change my opinion about my second pet peeve.

crunchb3rry

04-19-2008, 02:46 AM

Motion effect are intentional. Supposed to represent Ethan being kinda shitfaced the whole game. Plus, even the first game had exaggerated "movement" when you did stuff like crawl through holes in fences, climb stuff, etc.

I miss the old Ethan though. Both his voice and the fact that I think he was asian in the first game. The new one isn't terrible though, but I think the game kinda blew it by not having some sort of epilogue where he gets cleaned up.

I did miss the old Rosa, but I found myself caring more about the new Rosa. Old Rosa was more original but I just didn't feel that "bond" between Ethan and her like in the second game. I am at least glad the new Rosa is realistically "pretty" (reminds me of that Michael Michelle chick from ER). So her makeover is nowhere near as insulting as making Ethan into the Warrior Within Prince of Persia's asshole older brother.

BigT

04-19-2008, 04:49 AM

The Zero Punctuation review sums up the game pretty well, along with it's main flaw: Indigo Prophecy Syndrome... both are great games that turn weird in the end...

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/4742-Zero-Punctuation-Condemned-2-Bloodshot

Monsta Mack

04-20-2008, 01:45 AM

Yeah I wasn't all impressed with how the last level was laid out. I appreciated the first game more. The story was looking to be a 9 or so then hit a mid 7 towards the end. The combat has been greatly improved at least, and Emo Thomas was a lot easier to put up with then I thought he would be.

Crime Scene multi player is a blast even with the whopping four maps, but the other multi player seems to be a waste and completely thrown in. I'm just hoping they address some lag issues via patchs and perhaps even some more maps because Crime Scene is a big hit with me.

I'd give the first game a 8.5 and this a 8.4 with the saving throw being the combat system which was greatly improved, yet the story was not as good as the first

I'm just glad for one thing There is obviously going to be another sequel. Granted as long as Monoloth is content with this game selling under 250k copies in the US, at least the current trend looks to be that way on VGchartz. I'll gladly put my money down on Condemned 3.

Malik112099

05-04-2008, 08:26 PM

Sofa King Kool

05-04-2008, 08:30 PM

i just finished this game and thought it was pretty good considering the end....i was looking around the net and found this site :

http://offsettheevil.com/

it is a condemned 2 site but fucked up in a whole different way

Holy shit, that's awesome. Why haven't I seen this before?

*Edit*

LOL! Forest of fairy flowers is hilarious. Just a bunch of links to things that make you less evil. Whoever thought of this site is fucking awesome.