Damn, doesn't it suck having to grow up?

[Grave_Addiction]

I remember when I was younger that all I wanted to do was grow up. Now that I am grown up, I wish I was a kid again.

When I was 16, all I had to worry about was paying $75 every two weeks to pay for my car insurance. After that, I had no responsibility whatsoever.

Now, I actually have people depending on me to live. Don't think I don't love being a husband and father, because I really do.

It's just that everything was so much easier when all you had to worry about is getting your homework done and trying to do your girlfriend in your room without your parents finding out.

It would be cool as hell to go back and live my life from 15 on. I would do a lot of things different, but probably I'd end up just drinking a helluva lot more and doing a lot of girls.

So, how many adults here would like to go back to their mid-teens and relieve their high-school years? What would you do different or would you just keep it all the same?

[The Successful Dropout]

id do almost everything differently....yet turn out the same....cuz im determined to head where im heading no matter what...but i definitely know what you mean

[bignick]

I would love to go back to high school and do it all over again.

[6669]

Every guy outta high school wants to go back, because they think they'll be able to score with all the high school chicks.

[Grave_Addiction]

Every guy outta high school wants to go back, because they think they'll be able to score with all the high school chicks.

Hahahaha, yeah you're right. But I had several great chances, but always pussed out. Damn, I was such a pussy.

Try having a girl break up with you because she said God was telling her to, then basically ask you on the phone if you are one of the guys who doesn't understand when girls are willing to give it up, then go out with a senior and then do him.

No, I'm not bitter.

[daphatty]

Amen brotha. I say that at least once a week. I hate being grown up. My ass needs to hit the lotto so I can live life the way I used to when I was 15 with the obvious exception of getting laid every night. Being married does have its privledges after all. :D

[daphatty]

Every guy outta high school wants to go back, because they think they'll be able to score with all the high school chicks.

Hahahaha, yeah you're right. But I had several great chances, but always pussed out. Damn, I was such a pussy.

Try having a girl break up with you because she said God was telling her to, then basically ask you on the phone if you are one of the guys who doesn't understand when girls are willing to give it up, then go out with a senior and then do him.

No, I'm not bitter.

Now that is an excuse! I can't sleep with you because God told me not to. :roll: You should have hooked up with her best friend and slept with her!

[The Successful Dropout]

forget the best friend....try her mom

[6669]

Every guy outta high school wants to go back, because they think they'll be able to score with all the high school chicks.

Hahahaha, yeah you're right. But I had several great chances, but always pussed out. Damn, I was such a pussy.

Try having a girl break up with you because she said God was telling her to, then basically ask you on the phone if you are one of the guys who doesn't understand when girls are willing to give it up, then go out with a senior and then do him.

No, I'm not bitter.

I lot of my boyfriends' friends say that too now, so your not alone. Don't worry about that girl, a lot of high school girls do have a thing for older guys though. :?:

[Jaket]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

[Mr Unoriginal]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

Yeah, use lots of rufees. That made my highschool experience pleasurable.

[Vampire Beatnik]

Every guy outta high school wants to go back, because they think they'll be able to score with all the high school chicks.

Hahahaha, yeah you're right. But I had several great chances, but always pussed out. Damn, I was such a pussy.

Try having a girl break up with you because she said God was telling her to, then basically ask you on the phone if you are one of the guys who doesn't understand when girls are willing to give it up, then go out with a senior and then do him.

No, I'm not bitter.

I must've dated this girl's clone in High School. Acted exactly the same....except she was a hateful bitch to top it off.

[The Successful Dropout]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

a girl can't say "no" if her mouth is taped shut

http://www.guys.nl/extra/Smiling%20Frog%20w%20teeth.gif

[daphatty]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

Wear a rubber.

[Tromack]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

If you aren't already drinking, start. And drink more than you think you should. And make girls you are with drink a lot more than you think you should. It's more legal than the rufies thing.

[6669]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

Yeah, use lots of rufees. That made my highschool experience pleasurable.

That's just wrong. I hope to God your kidding.

[Tromack]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

a girl can't say "no" if her mouth is taped shut


That is the greatest thing I have ever heard. You are my new lord and savior.

[The Successful Dropout]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

don't tell any girls that you're trying to bang that you belong to this site...unless of course shes that 1 in a million gamer chic

[daphatty]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

a girl can't say "no" if her mouth is taped shut

Oh Jesus! :shock:

[dtcarson]

Interesting topic.
I agree with you : )
I'd probably go back to beginning/middle of 11th grade, through my sophomore year in college. School was easy, jobs paid enough to buy what little I had to, good friends, and around 10th/11th grade I had a sudden confidence burst that really changed my personality [for the better].
I'd live a little riskier. Not doing stupid stuff like drugs, but more on the romance end of things [and again, not necessarily having lots of sex, but I was always somewhat of a one-girl guy, and I was with that girl for quite some time.] Not saying I'd cheat on anyone I was with, but there are some girls to whom I wish I had had the guts to make my feelings known. And some I wish I hadn't wasted the time with. And some I wish I had been a little riskier with.
One thing I'd do later on, in the first college years, is STAY THE HELL AWAY from those jerkasses hawking credit cards to the college kids on the quad. Credit cards haven't 'ruined' my life, but they sure have made it a lot more challenging [And yes, I know, 'your decision, your actions' which I wholeheartedly agree with, but the concept here is 'if you could go back, what would you change'.]

There is an EXCELLENT book on this subject called 'Replay' by Ken Grimwood. It's about a guy who has a heart attack at 50 or so, and wakes up in his college dorm room--with full knowledge of the ensuing 25 years. One of the few non-big-name books I've read multiple times.

[JamesM4321]

I would've came out of the closet a lot sooner....and just been "ME"!!!

[Machine]

Ya know, I don't have any regrets about high school. My regrets are all about college. I really should have drank less (a LOT less) and worried about my grades more.

[Grave_Addiction]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

Oh boy, you asked the wrong person on that one.

Rule #1) Always go the extra mile to try to do a girl. If you don't you'll always regret it for the rest of your life. Especially if she was really hot.

Rule #2) The cool crowd are really a bunch of losers. I was in the "cool crowd" at my school, and I have to say that pretty much all of them are losers today. Not one of them really give a damn about me or care about staying in contact with me.

The people I thought were my real friends aren't and the people who I was friends with who weren't "cool" are the ones who really care about being a true friend.

Rule #3) Do your damn homework and do good in school! This could be the last thing you'd think is important, but trust me and anyone who's graduated. You need to do good in school and make good grades.

Rule #4) Doing drugs is dumb No matter what people may tell you, nothing good comes from drugs and it will ultimately ruin you and your familie's life. Don't be stupid, just don't do it.

Rule #5) If you think there's a chance, always do the girl. I know I said this in Rule #1, but I felt it important enough to say it again. Do the girl!

Rule #6) When doing Rule #1 and #5, always make sure to wear a Jimmy Hat. Having kids while you're in high school is not easy. It puts extreme stress on everyone involved including your parents. Wait to do that until your out of school.

I can always give you more of Chris' Words of Wisdom if you'd like.

[Jaket]

lol.... more more!

[The Successful Dropout]

I would've came out of the closet a lot sooner....and just been "ME"!!!

hmm.....if i could change one thing, i would've locked every closet....

[daphatty]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

Oh boy, you asked the wrong person on that one.

Rule #1) Always go the extra mile to try to do a girl. If you don't you'll always regret it for the rest of your life. Especially if she was really hot.

Rule #2) The cool crowd are really a bunch of losers. I was in the "cool crowd" at my school, and I have to say that pretty much all of them are losers today. Not one of them really give a damn about me or care about staying in contact with me.

The people I thought were my real friends aren't and the people who I was friends with who weren't "cool" are the ones who really care about being a true friend.

Rule #3) Do your damn homework and do good in school! This could be the last thing you'd think is important, but trust me and anyone who's graduated. You need to do good in school and make good grades.

Rule #4) Doing drugs is dumb No matter what people may tell you, nothing good comes from drugs and it will ultimately ruin you and your familie's life. Don't be stupid, just don't do it.

Rule #5) If you think there's a chance, always do the girl. I know I said this in Rule #1, but I felt it important enough to say it again. Do the girl!

Rule #6) When doing Rule #1 and #5, always make sure to wear a Jimmy Hat. Having kids while you're in high school is not easy. It puts extreme stress on everyone involved including your parents. Wait to do that until your out of school.

I can always give you more of Chris' Words of Wisdom if you'd like.

:applause: Couldn't have said it better myself. Except for "No means no."

[JamesM4321]

I never wanted to be gay, and realizing it, and being affraid to stop hiding it made life much more difficult. I'm a straight-acting guy. As a matter of fact, I'm kind-of homophobic. But, I've realized from my fiance and time, that people don't care if you're gay if you just don't act ashamed or try to hide it.

So, I would've just been me. Maybe would've gotten to do some hot guy in the process.

But, I'm VERY happy with my fiance, so I guess it all worked out.

[Grave_Addiction]

You asked for it.

Rule #7) Don't stick to one girl in high school These relationships hardly ever work out, and if you spend three of the four years you're in high school with the same girl and you never end up doing her, you've basically wasted your time at high school completely.

High school is a time where girls are willing to start giving it up. Find the right girls, not so much the extreme hoes, but the ones who like to have some fun and do them.

Rule #8 If a girl you're dating gives it up, never dump them. TV has shown this time and time again, and frankly I don't see the point of it. You always see the boyfriend acting all nice until he gets in the girl's pants, then he leaves her and goes onto someone else.

When you have a willing girlfriend, your ass better stay with her for awhile. That is until she acts crazy and starts to tell you she loves you. That is a strong indicator of a needy girl. Most likely she didn't get the attention from her father and is latcing onto you for attention. These girls are also the psycho ones who will stalk you.

If she ever tells you she loves you, call the police immediately, put a restraining order on her ass and then date and do her girlfriend.

More to come if requested to do so.

[yeahokthenfu]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

If you aren't already drinking, start. And drink more than you think you should. And make girls you are with drink a lot more than you think you should. It's more legal than the rufies thing.
Agree with the drinking thing, disagree with the rufies thing, you have to be damn desperate to do that.

[Grave_Addiction]

I never wanted to be gay, and realizing it, and being affraid to stop hiding it made life much more difficult. I'm a straight-acting guy. As a matter of fact, I'm kind-of homophobic. But, I've realized from my fiance and time, that people don't care if you're gay if you just don't act ashamed or try to hide it.

So, I would've just been me. Maybe would've gotten to do some hot guy in the process.

But, I'm VERY happy with my fiance, so I guess it all worked out.

Okay, are you saying that you're gay, but you are engaged to be married (I'm just assuming that it's to a woman), but you now realize that you're gay, but you are happy to be with your fiance?

[snotknocker]

I may look all grown up. But I'm still a kid at heart. I have no regrets for the things that I did when I was young, only regrets for the things that I did'nt do. And now that I'm older I'm doing all those things I did'nt do then. I never wish I could do things over. I like the way I am and the life I have and all the hard lessons life dealt me have made me a better person. Seize the moment I say live for today and never fall into the shoulda, coulda, woulda trap, or the if I only knew then what I know now thing. The past is old news that's why they call it the past. The only thing you have to look forward to is the future and you can makes yours whatever you want it to be

[yeahokthenfu]

I never wanted to be gay, and realizing it, and being affraid to stop hiding it made life much more difficult. I'm a straight-acting guy. As a matter of fact, I'm kind-of homophobic. But, I've realized from my fiance and time, that people don't care if you're gay if you just don't act ashamed or try to hide it.

So, I would've just been me. Maybe would've gotten to do some hot guy in the process.

But, I'm VERY happy with my fiance, so I guess it all worked out.
Ok I think I figured out why you are having these thoughts, because your fiance is the one wearing the pants in the relationship and you feel inferior, or your fiance is actually a transexual and you havent figured it out and he/she is trying to convince you to be gay so that when you do figure it out you wont be all upset.

[JamesM4321]

My fiance's name is Jonathan...and he's also a very out, but straight-acting guy! And damn sexy! :-)

[Grave_Addiction]

I may look all grown up. But I'm still a kid at heart. I have no regrets for the things that I did when I was young, only regrets for the things that I did'nt do. And now that I'm older I'm doing all those things I did'nt do then. I never wish I could do things over. I like the way I am and the life I have and all the hard lessons life dealt me have made me a better person. Seize the moment I say live for today and never fall into the shoulda, coulda, woulda trap, or the if I only knew then what I know now thing. The past is old news that's why they call it the past. The only thing you have to look forward to is the future and you can makes yours whatever you want it to be

Yes, but we should always give our wisdom and experience to the young and try to help them to not make the same mistakes we made.

[Tromack]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

If you aren't already drinking, start. And drink more than you think you should. And make girls you are with drink a lot more than you think you should. It's more legal than the rufies thing.
Agree with the drinking thing, disagree with the rufies thing, you have to be damn desperate to do that.
I was the one saying not to do the rufies thing. Mr. Unoriginal said yes on rufies. I say no on rufies and yes on drinking.

[Mr Unoriginal]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

If you aren't already drinking, start. And drink more than you think you should. And make girls you are with drink a lot more than you think you should. It's more legal than the rufies thing.
Agree with the drinking thing, disagree with the rufies thing, you have to be damn desperate to do that.
I was the one saying not to do the rufies thing. Mr. Unoriginal said yes on rufies. I say no on rufies and yes on drinking.

On top of that, I was hoping it was fairly obvious I was kidding.

[Grave_Addiction]

I think alcohol is God's way of giving ugly people the chance to procreate.

[JamesM4321]

LOL

[6669]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

If you aren't already drinking, start. And drink more than you think you should. And make girls you are with drink a lot more than you think you should. It's more legal than the rufies thing.
Agree with the drinking thing, disagree with the rufies thing, you have to be damn desperate to do that.
I was the one saying not to do the rufies thing. Mr. Unoriginal said yes on rufies. I say no on rufies and yes on drinking.

On top of that, I was hoping it was fairly obvious I was kidding.

Its hard to show sarcasm on a message board, but that still wasn't funny. (I'm not kidding)

[dtcarson]

I guess I'm old fashioned. I drank a little in high school, a little more in college, but was never stupid [DUI, puking my guts out, etc].
Never did drugs, except for a little tobacco [and then I started smoking a pipe, and you get stares when you're a college kid hanging out at a college meat market/beer joint with a pipe].
Only had sex [ie, actual intercourse] with one girl, and that girl later became my wife, currently of almost 9 years. Certainly fooled around to various levels with various girls, but always where we both wanted it to happen.
I think kids are rushing things too much nowadays. The question about 'first dates' now is not, Did she kiss you, it's Did s/he put out? and to me, that's saddening. I'm not against sex, and I'm not inherently against premarital sex [I had it], but I am against rushing something, making something that should be meaningful, pointless. One of my fondest sexual memories, and I guess you high school studs out there will laugh, was when a girl I had been with for I guess close to a year, who was younger and quite religious and not very experienced [I was her first boyfriend], one night when we were out on a blanket in a field necking, took my hand, put it under her shirt, had me unhook her bra, then moved my hand around to her front. I had gone further with other girls before, but this time was special. Getting there is honestly at least half the fun. And like I said, I didn't even 'get there' but with one person. A relationship in which you don't 'do' the other person isn't a 'waste', in my opinion.
I agree in part with some of GraveAddictions rules.
Rule 1--To quote the wisdom of the Butthole Surfers, 'It's better to regret something you have done, than to regret something you haven't done.' While I don't think you should try to 'do' every girl, if there's a girl you like or have the hots for or whatever the term is nowadays, definitely try to let her know. The most she can do is say 'No.' [Funny side story: I had a girl say 'No' to me something like 104 times--yes, I counted. Once she said 'i have to sleep.' um, okay. Actually, she never said no, she just gave excuses. Finally once she said No, I said Why not, she said Because I don't like you like that. I said 'Thanks', which shocked her. I said 'Thank you for treating me with respect and telling me that. I'll leave you alone now.' We later become good friends in high school and college.]

Rule 2 about the cool crowd: Yes. If you have something to offer, whether it be personality, talent, humor, skills, intelligence, whatever, and you're confident, you will fit in anywhere you need to. I was the only one in AP English wearing torn up jeans and a King Diamond T-shirt, but I had excellent friends from all levels of the social strata who appreciated me, and many who weren't friends who respected me.

Rule 3: Absolutely. I would like to offer a corollary: Almost everything matters, and almost anything can be a learning experience. I know too many people who 'ruined their lives' based on one stupid, thoughtless act, or just a general tendency to operate at 90% instead of 100%.

[/Grandpa mode off]

edit to add:
snotknocker: You're absolutely right. I don't want people to think [if anyone's reading my loquacious posts] that I 'regret' things. I try not to regret things, because I feel regret and guilt are wastes of emotions. I do like to play the "What if" game, but I've made every decision up to this point, and don't regret them. Some were poor--I learned from them. But no matter what happened 'yesterday', you're in charge of tomorrow, based on what you do today.

[epobirs]

There is an EXCELLENT book on this subject called 'Replay' by Ken Grimwood. It's about a guy who has a heart attack at 50 or so, and wakes up in his college dorm room--with full knowledge of the ensuing 25 years. One of the few non-big-name books I've read multiple times.

One big mistake in that book. He has his character buy Atari stock almost a decade before it became a publicly owned company. Since the book was published before the Tramiels took it public this was something that had never existed so far as the author was concerned.

[Tromack]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

If you aren't already drinking, start. And drink more than you think you should. And make girls you are with drink a lot more than you think you should. It's more legal than the rufies thing.
Agree with the drinking thing, disagree with the rufies thing, you have to be damn desperate to do that.
I was the one saying not to do the rufies thing. Mr. Unoriginal said yes on rufies. I say no on rufies and yes on drinking.

On top of that, I was hoping it was fairly obvious I was kidding.

Its hard to show sarcasm on a message board, but that still wasn't funny. (I'm not kidding)

I knew you were kidding and I thought it was funny, Mr. Unoriginal. I just didn't want Mr. 6669 to call the cops on me thinking I was a rapist.

[epobirs]

I may be 40 on the 28th but growing up still remains for a future 'to do' list.

If I could go back to high school age the main thing I'd do is skip it. It wasn't until many years later that I realized how easily I could have walked through the GED and done something more useful. I did not got along well with my own age group ten so I wouldn't have missed anything socially. All of my firends when I was a teen-ager were a decade older. I'm a voracious reader but I don't care for acadamia. Moving on to college early would not have been a solution. Getting out into the private sector is what I really needed to do. I passed up a lot of chances for real world experience in fields that later spawned many fortunes.

[CTLesq]

And not drink scotch?

Screw that.

[dtcarson]

I have one more bit of advice:
if you make any income whatsoever, at any age, start saving some of it. 10%, 15%, 25% if possible. Something low-to-medium risk, although if you're young enough, putting maybe half of it in something riskier like the stock market [but diversify!] might not be bad. Compound interest is a wonderful thing, plus if someone can start a habit of consistently saving at age 18, 16, even 12, their later life will be much easier. A lot of youth think money is merely an evil tool of evil businessmen, but hey, money makes the world go around, and my life would have been a lot easier if I had started at age 16 or so.

Regarding school: School certainly isn't for everyone. nowadays, unless you get a degree in something specialized or technical, it doesn't really matter whatyour degree isin. And experience can count for a lot more. I still think there's value in at least a high school education, however, except in very extenuating circumstances.

[redgopher]

I think if I was the way I am now when I was 15 I probably would have been able to date more. But other than that I wouldn't want to go back at all. High school was really gay. All the chicks ignored me, I had maybe one or two friends.... yeah. Fuck that.

[6669]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

If you aren't already drinking, start. And drink more than you think you should. And make girls you are with drink a lot more than you think you should. It's more legal than the rufies thing.
Agree with the drinking thing, disagree with the rufies thing, you have to be damn desperate to do that.
I was the one saying not to do the rufies thing. Mr. Unoriginal said yes on rufies. I say no on rufies and yes on drinking.

On top of that, I was hoping it was fairly obvious I was kidding.

Its hard to show sarcasm on a message board, but that still wasn't funny. (I'm not kidding)

I knew you were kidding and I thought it was funny, Mr. Unoriginal. I just didn't want Mr. 6669 to call the cops on me thinking I was a rapist.

Its Mrs. 6669, and I didn't think it was funny when some dumbass high school boys slipped ruffies into my drink when it happened to me.

[SevereTireDamage]

You guys scare me a bit. I'm 23, and I've lived a fairly miserable life, and I don't see it getting any better. The thought that my "best" years are behind me are even more depressing. Hopefully despite the fact that I am not into drinking, drugs, or even going after girls, perhaps I just might find something worth living for.

Still, you gotta do what you gotta do right? The grass must be fed and grown indubitably.

[Graystone]

im in high school, any advice on living it up?

do everything go to every major sport game and dance as well as hang out with as many people as possible dont limit yourself to a group of friends talk to eveyone and do as much (women) as you can it is wrong but you sir will thank me later, try to do everything you can dont back down from anything as well sign up for the talent show and plays if you school still has them. this will give your more to remeber, as well as you will have none of those i wish I woulda,shoulda,coulda , this realy apllies to girls if you like her ask her you wil regret it later
Older CAG did I forget anything.

[Grave_Addiction]

You guys scare me a bit. I'm 23, and I've lived a fairly miserable life, and I don't see it getting any better. The thought that my "best" years are behind me are even more depressing. Hopefully despite the fact that I am not into drinking, drugs, or even going after girls, perhaps I just might find something worth living for.

Still, you gotta do what you gotta do right? The grass must be fed and grown indubitably.

I think a lot of this advice is coming from those of us who are married with kids.

[epobirs]

You guys scare me a bit. I'm 23, and I've lived a fairly miserable life, and I don't see it getting any better. The thought that my "best" years are behind me are even more depressing. Hopefully despite the fact that I am not into drinking, drugs, or even going after girls, perhaps I just might find something worth living for.

Still, you gotta do what you gotta do right? The grass must be fed and grown indubitably.

Just remind yourself that a lot of those pathetic seeming older people you meet whose most fond memories end with their teens are those who peaked in high school. Anybody who looks back on high school as a good time rather then a holding pen before real life probably had less to look forward to than you.

Some of the more important things in my life like getting paid for a published article or serious traveling didn't come until well into my thirties.

[JSweeney]

I guess none of you had that "pregnancy scare", or had one of you're good friends be pregnant the majority of the year (though not showing), and consistantly lie to you about it until the kid is actually born. I mean, I swear this girl only put on about 20 pounds over the entire course of her pregnancy.

[Grave_Addiction]

You guys scare me a bit. I'm 23, and I've lived a fairly miserable life, and I don't see it getting any better. The thought that my "best" years are behind me are even more depressing. Hopefully despite the fact that I am not into drinking, drugs, or even going after girls, perhaps I just might find something worth living for.

Still, you gotta do what you gotta do right? The grass must be fed and grown indubitably.

Just remind yourself that a lot of those pathetic seeming older people you meet whose most fond memories end with their teens are those who peaked in high school. Anybody who looks back on high school as a good time rather then a holding pen before real life probably had less to look forward to than you.

Some of the more important things in my life like getting paid for a published article or serious traveling didn't come until well into my thirties.

I know my life didn't peak in high school, it's just that it was a really fun and exciting time in my life, and I wish I did some more fun and more exciting things during that time.

[BakaHoushi]

Well, I'm 17, and I have a lot of self-esteem issues, but I have some guidelines.

1. Drugs. NO. Life is surreal enough as it is. You don't need drugs to escape. Play a video game. Read a fantasy novel. Watch a Sci-Fi Epic. You want constructive escapism, not something that will leave you paralyzed as you drive stoned. The same goes for alcohol. DON'T.

2. Cliques: The last thing the world needs is idiots. We have enough of them. Be yourself. Don't try to get with idiots who just do what everyone else does (or, just as bad, does the OPPOSITE). Do what you want. Associate with whomever you like. If someone doesn't approve, they're not the boss of your life. Let them be with who they want and keep YOUR friends.

3. Relationships: You don't NEED a girlfriend/boyfriend in high school. Seriously. You don't. I've lived 17 years without one or even wanting one. If you want some companionship and can be mature, sure, go for someone you TRULY like (not just anyone). But you don't NEED one.

4. Sex. Desipte what 99% of this board has said, YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAVE SEX IN HIGH SCHOOL. LIFE IS NOT ABOUT SEX (It STARTS a life, it's not its purpose). What will sleeping with that really hot girl across the hall give you? 15 minutes of satisfaction. You shouldn't regret not "doing it" with her. I know hormones get flowing. I've felt it, too (granted, I've yet to find a girl in person to be all that phsyically attractive). But really, use your head (And I'm talking about the one on your SHOULDERS, so, don't bother making that obvious joke).

Let the obvious inquieries of my sex life thus commence.

Edit: Oh, yes, and despite my last rule, I see the irony in me choosing Miroku to be my avatar.

[magilacudy]

I would love to go back to high school and do it all over again.

AGREED'D

[bignick]

I would have had my parents hold me back in 8th grade. I was only 17 when I graduated. I could have lifted a lot more, and borken 60 feet in the shot put then gotten a free ride to an awesome school.

[mer71]

I hated high school years. The only thing I would have changed is my career path. I would rather live my 20-30 years again. Being single or dating made for alot of free time. Also you had the liberty to f it and do whatever. No nagging about playing games, could play for a whole day before going out. Countless nights out with buddies and hanging with older women. Drinking Blanck and Tans and eating wings. Those were the days!!!

[SpookyD]

Well, I'm 17, and I have a lot of self-esteem issues, but I have some guidelines.

1. Drugs. NO. Life is surreal enough as it is. You don't need drugs to escape. Play a video game. Read a fantasy novel. Watch a Sci-Fi Epic. You want constructive escapism, not something that will leave you paralyzed as you drive stoned. The same goes for alcohol. DON'T.

2. Cliques: The last thing the world needs is idiots. We have enough of them. Be yourself. Don't try to get with idiots who just do what everyone else does (or, just as bad, does the OPPOSITE). Do what you want. Associate with whomever you like. If someone doesn't approve, they're not the boss of your life. Let them be with who they want and keep YOUR friends.

3. Relationships: You don't NEED a girlfriend/boyfriend in high school. Seriously. You don't. I've lived 17 years without one or even wanting one. If you want some companionship and can be mature, sure, go for someone you TRULY like (not just anyone). But you don't NEED one.

4. Sex. Desipte what 99% of this board has said, YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAVE SEX IN HIGH SCHOOL. LIFE IS NOT ABOUT SEX (It STARTS a life, it's not its purpose). What will sleeping with that really hot girl across the hall give you? 15 minutes of satisfaction. You shouldn't regret not "doing it" with her. I know hormones get flowing. I've felt it, too (granted, I've yet to find a girl in person to be all that phsyically attractive). But really, use your head (And I'm talking about the one on your SHOULDERS, so, don't bother making that obvious joke).

Let the obvious inquieries of my sex life thus commence.

Edit: Oh, yes, and despite my last rule, I see the irony in me choosing Miroku to be my avatar.

I'm suprised no ones flamed you yet, while I don't agree with your ideas, I also don't really agree with theres, but i'll keep my opinions to myself, at least your representing the other end of the spectrum.

[JamesM4321]

I like this alot!


Well, I'm 17, and I have a lot of self-esteem issues, but I have some guidelines.

1. Drugs. NO. Life is surreal enough as it is. You don't need drugs to escape. Play a video game. Read a fantasy novel. Watch a Sci-Fi Epic. You want constructive escapism, not something that will leave you paralyzed as you drive stoned. The same goes for alcohol. DON'T.

2. Cliques: The last thing the world needs is idiots. We have enough of them. Be yourself. Don't try to get with idiots who just do what everyone else does (or, just as bad, does the OPPOSITE). Do what you want. Associate with whomever you like. If someone doesn't approve, they're not the boss of your life. Let them be with who they want and keep YOUR friends.

3. Relationships: You don't NEED a girlfriend/boyfriend in high school. Seriously. You don't. I've lived 17 years without one or even wanting one. If you want some companionship and can be mature, sure, go for someone you TRULY like (not just anyone). But you don't NEED one.

4. Sex. Desipte what 99% of this board has said, YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAVE SEX IN HIGH SCHOOL. LIFE IS NOT ABOUT SEX (It STARTS a life, it's not its purpose). What will sleeping with that really hot girl across the hall give you? 15 minutes of satisfaction. You shouldn't regret not "doing it" with her. I know hormones get flowing. I've felt it, too (granted, I've yet to find a girl in person to be all that phsyically attractive). But really, use your head (And I'm talking about the one on your SHOULDERS, so, don't bother making that obvious joke).

Let the obvious inquieries of my sex life thus commence.

Edit: Oh, yes, and despite my last rule, I see the irony in me choosing Miroku to be my avatar.

[BakaHoushi]

I'm suprised no ones flamed you yet, while I don't agree with your ideas, I also don't really agree with theres, but i'll keep my opinions to myself, at least your representing the other end of the spectrum.

Well, I don't mean to shove my beliefs down other's throats. I just meant this is how I lived my life and I think it's a damn pretty good rules to live by. But I also know I'm very strict. I mean, that's WHY I have self-esteem issues.

[Grave_Addiction]

4. Sex. Desipte what 99% of this board has said, YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAVE SEX IN HIGH SCHOOL. LIFE IS NOT ABOUT SEX (It STARTS a life, it's not its purpose). What will sleeping with that really hot girl across the hall give you? 15 minutes of satisfaction. You shouldn't regret not "doing it" with her. I know hormones get flowing. I've felt it, too (granted, I've yet to find a girl in person to be all that phsyically attractive). But really, use your head (And I'm talking about the one on your SHOULDERS, so, don't bother making that obvious joke).

Let the obvious inquieries of my sex life thus commence.

Okay friend, come back and talk to me in 5 to 10 years. I'd honestly like to know if you have any regrets for not boning any chicks after that.

[BakaHoushi]

Okay friend, come back and talk to me in 5 to 10 years. I'd honestly like to know if you have any regrets for not boning any chicks after that.

Let's also just say, considering I'm 17, I should be at the point in my life where the hormones are flowing the most. Considering I haven't come to a point even considerably remotely close to needing sex, I think that says something. Plus, I have this thing called a code of honor/moral code, which I obey religiously. In it, it states that sex is not something one leaves to chance. A lot of people would tell me, "but it might be the greatest thing you ever feel in your life!" Well, then, first of all, why the rush? It's like seeing a movie a few weeks after everyone else: You get the same, raw, good feeling, just a little later. Second of all, at this age, there are PLENTY of risks to consider with sex. Why chance it, again, for that 15 minutes of satisfaction? I do live a cautious life, and if I do what I feel is correct, I do not have regrets.

[JSweeney]

Most that I would have had intrest in wouldn't have interest in me.

Believe it or not, I am and was the prototypical nice guy... and got (and still do) get walked all over for it.

Why not change? Because the good outweighs the bad.

[SpookyD]

Okay friend, come back and talk to me in 5 to 10 years. I'd honestly like to know if you have any regrets for not boning any chicks after that.

Let's also just say, considering I'm 17, I should be at the point in my life where the hormones are flowing the most. Considering I haven't come to a point even considerably remotely close to needing sex, I think that says something. Plus, I have this thing called a code of honor/moral code, which I obey religiously. In it, it states that sex is not something one leaves to chance. A lot of people would tell me, "but it might be the greatest thing you ever feel in your life!" Well, then, first of all, why the rush? It's like seeing a movie a few weeks after everyone else: You get the same, raw, good feeling, just a little later. Second of all, at this age, there are PLENTY of risks to consider with sex. Why chance it, again, for that 15 minutes of satisfaction? I do live a cautious life, and if I do what I feel is correct, I do not have regrets.

As long as your happy, thats whats important (besides not making other people to unhappy, thats not very nice).

[Moxio]

So far I'm alright with growing up. But I sure wish I was back in kindergarten or preschool. Naptime, dawg.

[coolcps]

I'm 17 right now, and hell I already wanna go back to being younger. I liked when I was in elementry school and like the smartest kid without trying. Now I am in highschool with my grade consistantly dropping every year, hopefully this year, senior year, I will do better (not that 2.67 isnt ok). Just remember, if you cant get any girls, you always got two hands.

[Storamin]

4. Sex. Desipte what 99% of this board has said, YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAVE SEX IN HIGH SCHOOL. LIFE IS NOT ABOUT SEX (It STARTS a life, it's not its purpose). What will sleeping with that really hot girl across the hall give you? 15 minutes of satisfaction. You shouldn't regret not "doing it" with her. I know hormones get flowing. I've felt it, too (granted, I've yet to find a girl in person to be all that phsyically attractive). But really, use your head (And I'm talking about the one on your SHOULDERS, so, don't bother making that obvious joke).


Spoken like a true virgin. Being 17 and graduated, I think I can comment on this. This is probaly the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life. Wait, it probaly ranks behind... nothing.
I'd bone even more chicks than I did this time, if I got another chance.

[BakaHoushi]

Spoken like a true virgin. Being 17 and graduated, I think I can comment on this. This is probaly the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life. Wait, it probaly ranks behind... nothing.
I'd bone even more chicks than I did this time, if I got another chance.

I love the way people use virgin as an insult. F.Y.I. It doesn't strengthen your arguement. I speak from a platform of risk, which is fact, and stated my opinion, which I stated I do not force on others. "Bone" all the girls you like. But do please accept this award of "most opinionated fool I've met today." With no offense intended, of course. It's not like I didn't expect someone to say all this anyway. I've heard it all before.

[Storamin]

Spoken like a true virgin. Being 17 and graduated, I think I can comment on this. This is probaly the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life. Wait, it probaly ranks behind... nothing.
I'd bone even more chicks than I did this time, if I got another chance.

I love the way people use virgin as an insult. F.Y.I. It doesn't strengthen your arguement. I speak from a platform of risk, which is fact, and stated my opinion, which I stated I do not force on others. "Bone" all the girls you like. But do please accept this award of "most opinionated fool I've met today." With no offense intended, of course. It's not like I didn't expect someone to say all this anyway. I've heard it all before.
Insult? Who insulted. I just said you spoke like a true virgin. Which is the truth. Guess you can't handle the truth. Go take you and your lack of self confidence somewhere else. <Read Insult>

[BakaHoushi]

"That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard." Yeah, saying that about my opinion is what I would define as an insult.

[coolcps]

My opinion: if you are a virgin and claim you want to be a virgin you are 1. really religious 2. homosexual 3. can't get any women. Just my opinion.

[JamesM4321]

I think BakaHoushi should be commended. Maybe if we had more people that cared about morals, etc...we wouldn't have had soldiers taking degrading pictures of prisoners overseas.

This country is seriously lacking in quite a lot of areas...mainly our characters and what is truly inportant in life. We should love and care about others and always be willing to take responsibility for our actions.

[Storamin]

"That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard." Yeah, saying that about my opinion is what I would define as an insult.
Quite frankly, you're opinion is an insult!

[BakaHoushi]

Quite frankly, you're opinion is an insult!

Well, aren't we the open-minded and grammar conscious individual. If the world had more people like you, I'd have problems with having too much self-esteem.

Now, let's settle this once and for all. I'm a cautious person. Perhaps sex will be the greatest joy in my life. But by the same token, maybe playing Russian Roullette would be the most exhilerating experience of my life. Do I want to take that risk? No, I don't. Some things I just don't feel are worth the risk and premarital sex is one of them. Disagree? Fine. I don't mind. I won't hold your opinion against you. You have the right to it. Bash my opinion? Hey, you're only bringing yourself down and you're not making any (intelligent and nice) friends. So, bash me all you want. You can't harm me. I have morals and that's something I'm proud of. Don't agree? Well, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN.

[Graystone]

we are flaming now I thought were discussing something so why are we flaming now no one comment or post is stupid okay we all have different opinons.

[daphatty]

Yea this topic seriously degraded.

[JSweeney]

Yep. It's about time for a lock if this goes any futher.

[ElwoodCuse]

The lesson here is: never have kids. I wish all the luck in the world to parents out there, lord knows some of them truly need it.

[redgopher]

"That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard." Yeah, saying that about my opinion is what I would define as an insult.
Quite frankly, you're opinion is an insult!

Haha! I think I'll chime in and say that you're a blubbering dumbass for what you just said.

"How can it be bullshit to state a preference?" -- Rob, High Fidelity

[janglypangly]

Ya im 17 and im soo scared of being an adult...like i'll think about my grandparents and how i'll be like that someday and it makes me cry every once in a while....

[dtcarson]

BakaHoushi: I'm with you.
First, if you decide to not have sex for whatever reason, that's your decision and should be respected.
Secondly, I agree that there's too much focus on sex especially for youth.
I find a world where 'virgin' is an insult, just sad.
Sex, imho, is an 'adult' thing. 'Adulthood' can vary, but it sure looks like a lot of people on this board haven't hit it yet. As a kid, there's only so much time to be 'innocent', you'll be forced to grow up all too quickly anyway, don't rush it. Sex should also be special, and I have no regrets about not 'boning' [real mature term there, where are we, in a locker room?'] more girls in high school. I was actually 20, I think, when I had sex for the first time. Does that make someone who had sex at 14 somehow 'cooler' than me? If so, if their judgement of what's 'cool' is how many girls they've 'boned', and at what age, rather than, say, how many people can count on them as friends or rely on them as good human beings, well, refer to the original numbered list of 'Forget the 'cool' people--they're not.''
Not to mention, of course, the physical, emotional, and physiological risks that come with sex. Sex isn't bad, I love sex. But I love my wife, and I love to have sex with her because we're important to each other and want to make each other happy.
And, yes, I think there is a relationship [remember those? that's what it used to be about, rather than just 'boning'] between the increasing lack of respect for morals, ethics, boundaries, and the increasing lack of respect for other humans, whether that be school shootings, naked prisoner photos, or just acting like a jerkass on a web message board.

ElwoodCuse: I don't know if I'd agree with 'never have kids'. Kids aren't for everybody, and I don't think *everybody* should have kids, but I tell you what, my little boy changed my life entirely, and he's the best thing in it right now. Then again, [this bit not directed at you], I'm old fashioned--I'm married, plan to stay that way, and want to try to provide for my family. I guess that's not 'cool' anymore, I should be out 'boning' everyone I can, drinking, taking drugs, and just living a wild life.

[dtcarson]

So far I'm alright with growing up. But I sure wish I was back in kindergarten or preschool. Naptime, dawg.

Are you in/did you go to college? The return of naptime : ) --depending on how you set up your class schedule. Many times I went back between classes to play volleyball or take a nap.

I had one quarter where my only class on Friday was a lab from 1300-1430. That was about the best quarter, my weekend generally started Thursday night at about 6 pm and ended Monday at 10 when my first class started [and no, my weekend didn't consist of getting blind drunk and hunting down 'meat' to score with.]

Don't forget, what comes around, goes around. Interesting tidbit: one time in college I met a girl and we had a pretty instant 'click', both emotional and physical. Started hanging around all the time, getting physical, [although not having sex], she virtually moved in with me in my dorm room. I go home one weekend, come back to find out--she had slept with [literally and figuratively] my across-the-hall neighbor, and alleged good friend, that weekend. He didn't know we were a 'couple' , which, apparently, neither did she. She came back onto me a couple days later, I was like, Um, no. If you drop it that easy, I don't want it. Not to mention, I can't/won't trust you anymore [many of my relationships had actual emotions involved]. And there was some fallout between my friend and I [we eventually settled up and became roommates when we moved to an apartment]. So, she was just trying to 'bone' as many guys as she could for whatever reason [she had some psychologial problems with acceptance and self-esteem], but to me, that made the time we spent together less special. Plus, for a few months after that, I was constantly worried I'd caught something. Neither she, nor the 'relationship', nor the brief periods of fun, were worth it.
Not to mention the dichotomy--for some reason, a guy who sleeps with a bunch of girls is a 'stud', but a girl is a 'slut', which is blatant sexism and hypocrisy in the worst way. And not true--in my opinion, that guy is a misogynistic, careless playboy wannabe.

[CTLesq]

You guys scare me a bit. I'm 23, and I've lived a fairly miserable life, and I don't see it getting any better. The thought that my "best" years are behind me are even more depressing. Hopefully despite the fact that I am not into drinking, drugs, or even going after girls, perhaps I just might find something worth living for.

Still, you gotta do what you gotta do right? The grass must be fed and grown indubitably.

You want to know something? When I turned 30 I thought I was screwed.

Life over the last 2 years could not have been better. I am established. I have money. I go on vacations. I have a great wife. I do whatever I want.

I am the Captain of my own ship.

It does get better.

CTL

[Indiana]

I would have had my parents hold me back in 8th grade. I was only 17 when I graduated. I could have lifted a lot more, and borken 60 feet in the shot put then gotten a free ride to an awesome school.

Nick are you from Indiana originally? Just curious because your story sounds like someone else I know.

[Slipknot9762]

im 15 and in high school now

[dtcarson]

I have a great wife. I do whatever I want.

I am the Captain of my own ship.

CTL

Speaking as another married man, aren't those two concepts mutually exclusive? ; )

And I agree, there's 'fun' to any age, and you can make your own fun/happiness to an extent. I think the original point of the thread [ie, having many fewer responsibilities when young] is still valid, but has been lost.

[Grave_Addiction]

I have a great wife. I do whatever I want.

I am the Captain of my own ship.

CTL

Speaking as another married man, aren't those two concepts mutually exclusive? ; )

And I agree, there's 'fun' to any age, and you can make your own fun/happiness to an extent. I think the original point of the thread [ie, having many fewer responsibilities when young] is still valid, but has been lost.

Yeah, I was meaning for people to think about the things they were able to do that they can't do now and how much simpler life was then.

Now most people have house payments, car loans, utilities and all that other crap that goes along with paying bills. When we were young, the stress of being an adult was the last thing we thought about.

We only thought about all the "cool" things adults get to do, but if I had it to do over again, I would have tried to grow up a bit slower than I did.

[bignick]

I would have had my parents hold me back in 8th grade. I was only 17 when I graduated. I could have lifted a lot more, and borken 60 feet in the shot put then gotten a free ride to an awesome school.

Nick are you from Indiana originally? Just curious because your story sounds like someone else I know.

Nope, from CT.

[alongx]

I hated middle school and high school. I'd rather be dead or never have existed than to relive those years.

[dtcarson]

I have a great wife. I do whatever I want.

I am the Captain of my own ship.

CTL

Speaking as another married man, aren't those two concepts mutually exclusive? ; )

And I agree, there's 'fun' to any age, and you can make your own fun/happiness to an extent. I think the original point of the thread [ie, having many fewer responsibilities when young] is still valid, but has been lost.

Yeah, I was meaning for people to think about the things they were able to do that they can't do now and how much simpler life was then.

Now most people have house payments, car loans, utilities and all that other crap that goes along with paying bills. When we were young, the stress of being an adult was the last thing we thought about.

We only thought about all the "cool" things adults get to do, but if I had it to do over again, I would have tried to grow up a bit slower than I did.

Not to mention--summer vacation. I remember leaving school in June with nothing but a part time job as my only responsibility to three months. Now summer just means higher electric bills and I have to wash my work clothes more often.
And that summer job--100 bucks a month went to car insurance, some for gas, the rest was generally spent on pizza, comics, and girls [not necessarily in that order].

alongx: If you don't mind the inquiry, why was high school so bad?
I wouldn't want to be a high schooler in today's schools, my school was very nice, quiet, peaceful--we had our troubles and troublemakers, but they were either patently obvious ['don't hang out near him'] or were 'behind the scenes' [the drugs and violence]. Nothing really disastrous happened during my four years, except for one car accident that killed 2 or 3 kids. I didn't know them, but my girlfriend at the time had been offered a ride by them that very night, so that part of it hit me close.

[snotknocker]

So far I'm alright with growing up. But I sure wish I was back in kindergarten or preschool. Naptime, dawg.

Are you in/did you go to college? The return of naptime : ) --depending on how you set up your class schedule. Many times I went back between classes to play volleyball or take a nap.

I had one quarter where my only class on Friday was a lab from 1300-1430. That was about the best quarter, my weekend generally started Thursday night at about 6 pm and ended Monday at 10 when my first class started [and no, my weekend didn't consist of getting blind drunk and hunting down 'meat' to score with.]

Don't forget, what comes around, goes around. Interesting tidbit: one time in college I met a girl and we had a pretty instant 'click', both emotional and physical. Started hanging around all the time, getting physical, [although not having sex], she virtually moved in with me in my dorm room. I go home one weekend, come back to find out--she had slept with [literally and figuratively] my across-the-hall neighbor, and alleged good friend, that weekend. He didn't know we were a 'couple' , which, apparently, neither did she. She came back onto me a couple days later, I was like, Um, no. If you drop it that easy, I don't want it. Not to mention, I can't/won't trust you anymore [many of my relationships had actual emotions involved]. And there was some fallout between my friend and I [we eventually settled up and became roommates when we moved to an apartment]. So, she was just trying to 'bone' as many guys as she could for whatever reason [she had some psychologial problems with acceptance and self-esteem], but to me, that made the time we spent together less special. Plus, for a few months after that, I was constantly worried I'd caught something. Neither she, nor the 'relationship', nor the brief periods of fun, were worth it.
Not to mention the dichotomy--for some reason, a guy who sleeps with a bunch of girls is a 'stud', but a girl is a 'slut', which is blatant sexism and hypocrisy in the worst way. And not true--in my opinion, that guy is a misogynistic, careless playboy wannabe.

I was a man slut back in the day. But I never really considered most of the girls that slept around sluts. I thought of them as an easy, fun to be with, no strings attached piece of ass for the night or weekend or whatever. And for most of them I did have some respect.

But I will concur on your blatent sexism statement.

As I have stated before this type of mentality is reinforced by the sexual degradation of women by mass media. MTV is the biggest culprit

[WildWop]

...

It's just that everything was so much easier when all you had to worry about is getting your homework done and trying to do your girlfriend in your room without your parents finding out.

...


So now you're the parent, and sneaking sex with your wife without your children finding out, right?

"What's that little Timmy? You want to have a sleepover at your friend's house? SCORE!"

[Grave_Addiction]

...

It's just that everything was so much easier when all you had to worry about is getting your homework done and trying to do your girlfriend in your room without your parents finding out.

...


So now you're the parent, and sneaking sex with your wife without your children finding out, right?

"What's that little Timmy? You want to have a sleepover at your friend's house? SCORE!"

Hah hah, I hear that! :D

[bluetoast]

What about the college years, what do you guys feel about them? More fun/better than HS? What do you reccomend for college?

[Grave_Addiction]

What about the college years, what do you guys feel about them? More fun/better than HS? What do you reccomend for college?

I'd imagine the rules for college are pretty close to the rules for high school only that the sex is much more important.

[x0thedeadzone0x]

BakaHoushi: I'm with you.
First, if you decide to not have sex for whatever reason, that's your decision and should be respected.
Secondly, I agree that there's too much focus on sex especially for youth.
I find a world where 'virgin' is an insult, just sad.
Sex, imho, is an 'adult' thing. 'Adulthood' can vary, but it sure looks like a lot of people on this board haven't hit it yet. As a kid, there's only so much time to be 'innocent', you'll be forced to grow up all too quickly anyway, don't rush it. Sex should also be special, and I have no regrets about not 'boning' [real mature term there, where are we, in a locker room?'] more girls in high school. I was actually 20, I think, when I had sex for the first time. Does that make someone who had sex at 14 somehow 'cooler' than me? If so, if their judgement of what's 'cool' is how many girls they've 'boned', and at what age, rather than, say, how many people can count on them as friends or rely on them as good human beings, well, refer to the original numbered list of 'Forget the 'cool' people--they're not.''
Not to mention, of course, the physical, emotional, and physiological risks that come with sex. Sex isn't bad, I love sex. But I love my wife, and I love to have sex with her because we're important to each other and want to make each other happy.
And, yes, I think there is a relationship [remember those? that's what it used to be about, rather than just 'boning'] between the increasing lack of respect for morals, ethics, boundaries, and the increasing lack of respect for other humans, whether that be school shootings, naked prisoner photos, or just acting like a jerkass on a web message board.

ElwoodCuse: I don't know if I'd agree with 'never have kids'. Kids aren't for everybody, and I don't think *everybody* should have kids, but I tell you what, my little boy changed my life entirely, and he's the best thing in it right now. Then again, [this bit not directed at you], I'm old fashioned--I'm married, plan to stay that way, and want to try to provide for my family. I guess that's not 'cool' anymore, I should be out 'boning' everyone I can, drinking, taking drugs, and just living a wild life.

You are the kind of husband that every girl wants or needs. I congratulate you on this. I'm not gonna say anything else either, because this thread is just too ridiculous for me to even bother.