Guitar Hero III - General Discussion: First Tracks Revealed/First Video Posted!!

[Javery]

Paint It Black (by The Rolling Stones)
Cherub Rock (by Smashing Pumpkins)
Sabotage (by Beastie Boys)
The Metal (by Tenacious D)
My Name is Jonas (by Weezer)
Knights of Cydonia (by Muse)
Rock And Roll All Nite (as made famous by Kiss)
School's Out (as made famous by Alice Cooper)
Slow Ride (as made famous by Fog Hat
Cult of Personality (by Living Colour)
Barracuda (as made famous by Heart)


Notice the lack of "as made famous by" for most of them. This is going to be sweet.

[tiredfornow]

Notice the lack of "as made famous by" for most of them. This is going to be sweet.

paint it black and my name is jonas FTW.

[Roufuss]

Sabotage = Day 1.

[Javery]

Sabotage = Day 1.

Agreed. Cult of Personality is going to be awesome too.

[mykevermin]

Living Colour is an amazing surprise, and Paint it Black is easily one of the best Stones songs to want to include in a GH game. So far, so good. I'm ready to sell my 360 version and play my PS2 versions instead using the GH3 controller (for PS3).

[Mex25]

Paint it black, cherub rock and school's out. Hells yes!

[FFMooglestar]

paint it black and my name is jonas FTW.

Yes. Those two songs make this an easy release day purchase for me!

[benjamouth]

Wireless controllers and online play, now I'm interested.

[KaneRobot]

There will be a "new button color design" as well. Fucking ASSHOLES. Can't just let people buy the game, you have to make sure everyone is forced to buy the guitar again as well.

Well forget that, I'll just deal with it. Don't need wireless and I'm sure not paying for it just because the orange button is now the second fret or whatever.

Not exactly a thrilling lineup so far but it's pretty diverse at least, and the amount of original tracks is encouraging. First person to try to tell us that Tenacious D rules gets pantsed and hung upside-down from the flagpole until your taste in music is corrected.

[Roufuss]

There will be a "new button color design" as well. Fucking ASSHOLES. Can't just let people buy the game, you have to make sure everyone is forced to buy the guitar again as well.
.

That fucking sucks.

I'm sure as hell not buying another guitar again just for GH 3, when the guitar I have now works for GH 1, 2, and the upcoming 80's expansion.

[guyver2077]

nothing that catches my attention yet...

[Supercake]

Surprised the Muse is in it, now it's defintely a must buy purchase for me. This is shaping up to be a damn good songlist. Now I just need to get a PS3...

Isn't this also coming out on PS2?

[Javery]

There will be a "new button color design" as well. Fucking ASSHOLES. Can't just let people buy the game, you have to make sure everyone is forced to buy the guitar again as well.

Are you fucking kidding me? Seriously? It take a long time to recognize the colors on the screen and where your fingers should be - you know, like learning an instrument - and they are screwing with it? I don't give a shit about spending $30 extra to get the wireless guitar but I do care about having to retrain my brain. Whose stupid ass idea was this? If they want to make sure everyone buys the guitar again just dont sell the game separately or add something to make it unique to GHIII but don't fuck with the core gameplay. Douchebags.

[Backlash]

That list is incredibly awesome for me. I love most of those songs. The only one I'm not familiar with is Knights of Cydonia.

I hope that they're able to keep a lid on the "surprise" songs this time. Freebird would have been an incredible surprise/bonus for the GH2 if it hadn't been leaked so early, which just led to people being disppointed that there wasn't a big surprise of Maiden or Metallica once it launched.

[Backlash]

Are you fucking kidding me? Seriously? It take a long time to recognize the colors on the screen and where your fingers should be - you know, like learning an instrument - and they are screwing with it? I don't give a shit about spending $30 extra to get the wireless guitar but I do care about having to retrain my brain. Whose stupid ass idea was this? If they want to make sure everyone buys the guitar again just dont sell the game separately or add something to make it unique to GHIII but don't fuck with the core gameplay. Douchebags.

Seems like they could easily give users the option of which fret button color scheme to use in the game, if they so choose (assuming this rumor is true).

[y2jedi]

First person to try to tell us that Tenacious D rules gets pantsed and hung upside-down from the flagpole until your taste in music is corrected.

This is not the greatest game in the world, this is just a Tribute.

:D


Loving the track list thus far. I hope the rest stays this strong.

[prmononoke]

This early on, and we've already got Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer?

Fuck yes.

[mykevermin]

Not exactly a thrilling lineup

Y'know, with songs like:

Paint It Black (by The Rolling Stones)
Cherub Rock (by Smashing Pumpkins)
Sabotage (by Beastie Boys)
The Metal (by Tenacious D)
My Name is Jonas (by Weezer)
Knights of Cydonia (by Muse)
Rock And Roll All Nite (as made famous by Kiss)
School's Out (as made famous by Alice Cooper)
Slow Ride (as made famous by Fog Hat
Cult of Personality (by Living Colour)
Barracuda (as made famous by Heart)

...only the Tenacious D song and the Muse song seem to fall into the "lame for Guitar Hero" category (and only the Muse song b/c I don't know it. I don't see how you get off trying to start some sort of "musical taste" banter (even if we agree that Tenacious D is like Spinal Tap without the good) when you dare claim that the Stones, Smashing Pumpkins, Beastie Boys, Kiss, Alice Fucking Cooper, Foghat (face it, you do wanna play Slow Ride), Living Colour, and Heart is "not exactly thrilling."

What in the world would be thrilling? Somea'them Peppermint Patty-haired motherfuckers singin' their drippy-eyeliner inspired "woe is me" contemporary wanker songs? More Fall Out Boy? Is that what you want?

Shit. By the way, let me officially declare that this game needs L7's "Pretend We're Dead." A *lot*.

[SolidSeminole]

Holy shitballs! I am there day 1!!

[Scorch]

Paint It Black (by The Rolling Stones)
Cherub Rock (by Smashing Pumpkins)
Sabotage (by Beastie Boys)
My Name is Jonas (by Weezer)
Knights of Cydonia (by Muse)
Rock And Roll All Nite (as made famous by Kiss)
School's Out (as made famous by Alice Cooper)
Slow Ride (as made famous by Fog Hat
Cult of Personality (by Living Colour)
Barracuda (as made famous by Heart)
I seriously need new pants

I am also lead to believe that the Rolling Stones, Smashing Pumpkins, Beastie Boys, Weezer and Muse song are by the original artists?

[Javery]

I am also lead to believe that the Rolling Stones, Smashing Pumpkins, Beastie Boys, Weezer and Muse song are by the original artists?

That's what it looks like to me. If they were covers you would think they would have the "as made famous by" language tagged to it.

I'm hoping by GH5 we don't have to endure any covers - I appreciate the talent the guys have in recording such accurate covers (for the most part) but getting your original song in the newest GH would seem like easy money for any band and record label.

[prmononoke]

By the way, let me officially declare that this game needs L7's "Pretend We're Dead." A *lot*.

I actually agree with you on this.

More metal is needed: Metallica, more Iron Maiden, and I know this is probably never going to happen, but how about some Dark Tranquillity and At the Gates? And Cradle of Filth. I would *kill* for some CoF.

Also, Faith No More. Those are the bands I would love to see on GH III.

[mykevermin]

Something else taken from the press release:

Gibson Guitar's Les Paul model will be the battle axe of choice, and an industry standard for all rock gods on the Xbox 360(TM), PLAYSTATION(R)3 system, and Wii(TM). After much anticipation, PlayStation(R)2 system fans will also be receiving a new exclusive shape as well, the classic Kramer guitar, also a Gibson brand, popularized by hard rockers and known for its body design, pickups, electronics, and construction for furious finger fretting.

So the Les Paul will be the next-gen guitars, and the Kramer will appear for the PS2. Dunno what a Kramer looks like, but I'll google image it.

[Mid Boss]

:drool: :drool: :drool:

I'm pretty much sold on the strength of that short list alone. I'm dying to see what else they've got lined up now

[mykevermin]

I'm dying to see what else they've got lined up now

http://www.undercover.com.au/pics/melissaetheridge2004.jpg

COOOME TO MAH WINDOOOOOOOOOW~

Just kidding, of course.

[Scorch]

Wait a tic

There's also a "new button color design" to confuse anyone thinking about sticking to their old axe.
We're going to be FORCED to buy the new bundles?!

...well, with that list of songs, I'll do it.

They usually reveal the worst songs first..

..i'm really hoping they got Metallica on board. "Seek And Destroy" F T M F'N W.

[Moose_Man]

It seems people need to download and listen to "Knights of Cydonia". Everyones task: Go download the song than come back here with your thoughts on why this song is going to be killer for this game.

Also that whole lineup is amazing so far.

[strummerbs]

OK, I need this RIGHT NOW. Holy crap, those are great song choices. If that's the teaser, I cannot wait to see what else they have coming down the pipeline. Makes up for what is, for me, a pretty lackluster 80's edition line-up.

[Javery]

So the Les Paul will be the next-gen guitars, and the Kramer will appear for the PS2. Dunno what a Kramer looks like, but I'll google image it.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/happo_no_giri/Kramer5150.jpg

[mykevermin]

Well, then, I *DEMAND* "Hot for Teacher."

After L7, of course.

[onetrackmind]

nice

[Mid Boss]

http://www.undercover.com.au/pics/melissaetheridge2004.jpg

COOOME TO MAH WINDOOOOOOOOOW~

Just kidding, of course.

God damn you, now I'm gonna have that fucking song stuck in my head all day!

[y2jedi]

Well, then, I *DEMAND* "Hot for Teacher."



Yes, Indeed. Hell, I'd settle for Panama.

[Scorch]

Knights of Cydonia (fantastic song):

http://youtube.com/watch?v=auXWpUAWiaE

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Man, I was just calling for Living Colour in the GH 80s Edition thread. As long as I can play it in a GH game, I'm happy.

For those of you that don't think Tenacious D is a good fit for GH, just listem to "The Metal" and you'll realize it will be kick ass to play.

Forcing us to buy a new Guitar is totally bullshit, though. I'll probably be picking up GH3 for the Wii or maybe 360 (if I buy one this summer) so it may not be an issue for me - but it's still shit.

[Mr. Anderson]

OMFG, Barracuda?! YES! I can't fucking wait for this game. But if they are really fucking with the gameplay.... I'll hold off.

[necrojustice]

the kramer looks like a big peppermint, heh
I don't really care how bad/good the guitar looks, i'm
looking at the screen anyway :)

[Javery]

The setlist needs more "Rocket Queen"

[brduvel]

It will never happen, but I would love to see me some Melvins in Guitar Hero.

[Skylander7]

There will be a "new button color design" as well. Fucking ASSHOLES. Can't just let people buy the game, you have to make sure everyone is forced to buy the guitar again as well.

Well forget that, I'll just deal with it. Don't need wireless and I'm sure not paying for it just because the orange button is now the second fret or whatever.

Not exactly a thrilling lineup so far but it's pretty diverse at least, and the amount of original tracks is encouraging. First person to try to tell us that Tenacious D rules gets pantsed and hung upside-down from the flagpole until your taste in music is corrected.

Jesus Christ.. Red Octane is getting as bad as EA in raping their customer base. First they let loose a bunch of buggy guitars and put out a patch that bricked consoles.. next they're going to tell them that the periphial is outdated. They're really milking this thing for all its worth... and they know people will pay for it.

At least the track list is getting better. Hopefully we'll see a Highway to Hell (Bon Scott version of course)... or even better, "Let There Be Rock" or "Whole Lotta Rosie." Anything with a good Angus solo would rule. And if there was ever a Stones song to have... they picked the right one.

Maybe by Guitar Hero XVIII they'll have made enough to talk Page/Plant into licensing a song (still doubtful it'll happen though :) ). They should also put any song from Beck's Sea Change on there to add to the depresive mood of having to fork over nearly $100 for each new version of the game.

[Mid Boss]

The setlist needs more "Rocket Queen"

I like the way you think. Though any more GNR would be pretty fucking awesome. Especially if they could get the original recordings.

The new controller thing kinda sucks, but I don't mind too much since I'll probably get this for 360 and I didn't bother picking up GH2 for the 360 since I already have it for PS2 and don't like the current 360 controller. Part of me is hoping they'll offer a full size controller too. The SG for the PS2 has just started to feel too small to me when playing for any extended period of time.

[Backlash]

the kramer looks like a big peppermint, heh
I don't really care how bad/good the guitar looks, i'm
looking at the screen anyway :)

That was just how Van Halen decorated his guitar. I don't think any other ones looked like that.

[Javery]

That was just how Van Halen decorated his guitar. I don't think any other ones looked like that.

Right. That was a custom paint job - note the "5150" on the end of it.

[jollydwarf]

Any buzz I had when I entered this thread was instantly killed upon learning about the 'new button color scheme' rumor. It is depressing to see how many people are ready to eagerly acquiesce on Day One if that ends up being true. Not surprising, mind you, but depressing.

If it's true, then I'm passing on this* and lighting a candle for Guitar Hero to 'jump the shark' and veer off into the realm of 'passing fad' as opposed to 'Madden-esque institution'.** I'm sure to hear about my righteousness, as probably every other person reading this is, as Shawn Elliott (as "Whiskey Nerd") put it, a "man-baby" who jumps at the chance to rebuy and rebuy DS Lites when new candy colors are offered.

*--Maybe in late '08 when GH IV is released and I can get at least two games out of the price of one guitar--if that'll even be possible anymore--I'll reconsider. Maybe.

**--Scoff all you want, but you have no idea how the zeitgeist will go on this game in the long term. To me, it seems like a franchise that's ripe for the fickle public to turn on it two or three years from now, as it'll become something "that was so '00s". Maybe Rock Band will kick its ass. NO ONE KNOWS. Yet.

[PR Mega X]

Wait a tic

We're going to be FORCED to buy the new bundles?!

No. Fuck you. I already own 2 guitars. I want to play GHIII, but they can lick my balls if they think I'm buying a 3rd guitar for it.

There had better be an option to use the old guitars. There's no reason for this change other than to bend the user base over and shove a Kramer up our collective ass. Fuckin class act.

[Javery]

No. Fuck you. I already own 2 guitars. I want to play GHIII, but they can lick my balls if they think I'm buying a 3rd guitar for it.

There had better be an option to use the old guitars. There's no reason for this change other than to bend the user base over and shove a Kramer up our collective ass. Fuckin class act.

I think the idea is that you don't HAVE to buy the new guitar but when the button on screen is purple and you are supposed to press yellow on your old controller things will get confusing fast.

[jollydwarf]

From the press release (courtesy Kotaku, at least for this post):

The exclusive Gibson guitars will include innovative features such as removable faceplates that will allow fans to later personalize their guitars and make it their own, and a new button color design that will be integrated for an even greater authentic feel and rock experience.

For me, that strongly implies that they've tweaked the core gameplay mechanic and control scheme just enough to mandate that you buy the new guitar if you want to play. I hate press releases, as corporatespeak always raises my blood pressure and gets the bile churning.

EDIT: jayeryh, please note it's "color design", not "color scheme". Kind of insidious wording, methinks. To me, it suggests that it's not just same buttons, cooler colors.

[seanr1221]

I said this in the 360 thread, but fuck YES to the Pumpkins being in this!

[kdunn77]

EDIT: jayeryh, please note it's "color design", not "color scheme". Kind of insidious wording, methinks. To me, it suggests that it's not just same buttons, cooler colors.

If I wanted you to buy a new guitar controller, I wouldn't just make the 1st fret purple (or whatever), I'd make it trigger a different button (X, A etc.).

I had not even been considering Rock Band before now because of the considerable investment I have already made in Guitar Hero (GH 1 bundle, GH 2 bundle - PS2, Red Octane wireless guitar, and GH 2 bundle - X360), but if I have to buy all new stuff just to play GH 3, it makes Rock Band much more appealing.

[Sir_Fragalot]

Eh this track list doesn't excite me one bit. Ok the stones selection was good, the Alice Cooper selection is allright, everything else I would rather not play, except for slow ride but the problem there is they will use the studio version and not give you the live version (and there is a huge difference) which they should.

Also where the fuck is the metal. Give me some Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Motorhead, Judas Priest, something. Also where the fuck is Blues. If you want to be a Guitar Hero you should be able to play guitar like the best Blues artists.

[guyver2077]

I said this in the 360 thread, but fuck YES to the Pumpkins being in this!

i would of been fucking happy if the track was "Zero".

[seanr1221]

i would of been fucking happy if the track was "Zero".

Or Everlasting Gaze, but beggars cant be choosers!

[benjamouth]

I'm glad I waited for a wireless 360 guitar, hopefully they'll re-release GHII on 360 at the same time III comes out.

[prmononoke]

The setlist needs more "Rocket Queen"

I could go for that or "My Michelle."

[Midnite]

Or Everlasting Gaze, but beggars cant be choosers!

Cherub Rock is probably one of my favorite Pumpkin songs, Zero or Everlasting Gaze are better choices, I would of even settled for I Am One, XYU or Thru the Eyes of Ruby.

[Kendro]

Living Colour is an awesome addition. Cult of Personality is the perfect song for GH.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ5SVDYBNrY

[evanft]

Eh this track list doesn't excite me one bit. Ok the stones selection was good, the Alice Cooper selection is allright, everything else I would rather not play, except for slow ride but the problem there is they will use the studio version and not give you the live version (and there is a huge difference) which they should.

Also where the fuck is the metal. Give me some Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Motorhead, Judas Priest, something. Also where the fuck is Blues. If you want to be a Guitar Hero you should be able to play guitar like the best Blues artists.
This is like the first dozen songs from a game that will have about 40-50 officially licensed tracks. Calm the fuck down.

This, combined with the 80's edition, equals massive win for me.

[Javery]

Cherub Rock is a perfect GH song. It's got great guitar all the way through.

[Kendro]

Ozzy's Perry Mason FTMFW.

[Gothic Walrus]

There will be a "new button color design" as well. Fucking ASSHOLES. Can't just let people buy the game, you have to make sure everyone is forced to buy the guitar again as well.

Well forget that, I'll just deal with it. Don't need wireless and I'm sure not paying for it just because the orange button is now the second fret or whatever.
You know, "new button color design" doesn't automatically mean "old guitars not compatible." I don't know about you guys, but I'm not exactly watching the guitar while I'm playing. If it's still five buttons in a row, then who the fuck cares what color the plastic is?

Really, I think you're all overreacting until we find out what those four words will mean in terms of the finished product. Just calm the fuck down and give them the benefit of the doubt - Red Octane has delivered twice before, and I think it's a bit early to swear to never buy the third game or to get Rock Band instead.

Besides, if they were going to make a change, now is the obvious time since this is the first time guitars will be made for either the PS3 or the Wii.

[jollydwarf]

Besides, if they were going to make a change, now is the obvious time since this is the first time guitars will be made for either the PS3 or the Wii.


Yeah, that's exactly what scares me.

For my first hopeful/positive post in this thread, on the subject of boss battles, it would be the ultimate if they could get Vai to agree to lend his likeness and the rights to recreate "Eugene's Bag of Tricks" from the end of Crossroads.

"Name is Jack Butler. Real good guitar playa. Cuts heads ev'ry Saturday night."

[jalu6]

If that is in fact the original recording, Paint it Black must have cost them a fortune.

Sadly, its also why you won't find any original Zepplin on here, and don't even think about Metallica.

[Darkside Hazuki]

What in the world would be thrilling? Somea'them Peppermint Patty-haired motherfuckers singin' their drippy-eyeliner inspired "woe is me" contemporary wanker songs? More Fall Out Boy? Is that what you want?

Sig!

You know, "new button color design" doesn't automatically mean "old guitars not compatible." I don't know about you guys, but I'm not exactly watching the guitar while I'm playing. If it's still five buttons in a row, then who cares what color the plastic is?

You beat me to it. All the buttons could be grey, as long as they're still left to right. I just want a guitar that doesn't trigger Star Power at it's own leisure, or cut off sustained notes of it's own free will. :bomb:

[tehweezner]

Cherub Rock.. YES!

[VAD3R or Fro]

Hope it is still on PS2. I Dont feel like buying 2 new controllers for a 360 or Wii yet.

[Richlough]

If that is in fact the original recording, Paint it Black must have cost them a fortune.

Sadly, its also why you won't find any original Zepplin on here, and don't even think about Metallica.

I don't know about that . I think they might be trying to peer pressure the big guns into joining in .

[H.Cornerstone]

They should have used Zero by Smashing Pumpkins...

[Richlough]

They should have used Zero by Smashing Pumpkins...

They should've gotten any song off of Gish .

[sadunclesnugglez]

I actually agree with you on this.

More metal is needed: Metallica, more Iron Maiden, and I know this is probably never going to happen, but how about some Dark Tranquillity and At the Gates? And Cradle of Filth. I would *kill* for some CoF.

Also, Faith No More. Those are the bands I would love to see on GH III.

I like the way you think! I'd like to see some In Flames in there as well. "Blinded by Fear" by At the Gates would rule! Or how about "Angel of Death" by Slayer. Jesus, my hand hurts just thinking about it....

[Grave_Addiction]

I'm glad to see The D up there.

[Mex25]

They should have used Zero by Smashing Pumpkins...
They should have gotten most songs from gish, siamese dream and melon collie and the infinite sadness.

[argyle]

They should have used Zero by Smashing Pumpkins...

Zero is overrated. It's a good song, but Cherub Rock is a MUCH better choice. It should be a blast to play.

They should've gotten any song off of Gish .

Why the fuck would they do that?

If I had my choice of Pumpkins songs for the game, I'd pick Quiet, with The Aeroplane Flies High coming in second. But Cherub Rock is a better-known song and is still a very good choice.

They sold me on this one with that one song.

[Javery]

One Pumpkin's song only? For me that would be "Hummer" but "Cherub Rock" is going to be great too.

[MillerTime2523]

Awesome!

Sabotage (by Beastie Boys)
Knights of Cydonia (by Muse)

Cheaa.. I'm gonna love that.

[Maynard]

FUCK EVERYTHING ELSE

MUSE!
NO ones going to take me allliiiiiiiivvvvveeeeeeeee.
Time has come to make thingggsss rrrriiigghhhhtttttttt.
You and I must fight to survive.
dun nuh nuh na dun nuh nuh na nan nana na

Personally would have picked Stockholme Syndrome by them though, but hey it is their choice. Knights of Cydonia is so different from their normal music but it does have a cool western vibe going for it. If you haven't listened to Muse yet you do not know what you're missing out on. Matt, the guitarist, is unbelievably talented and they put on the best live show I have ever been too. They also got voted best live show by spin for a few years in a row now IIRC. First song to download by them is Hysteria, Time is running out, Stockholme Syndrome, you will be hooked I promise.

[FriskyTanuki]

I can't wait to see that PS2-exclusive Kramer guitar controller.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

[-Never4ever-]

If that is in fact the original recording, Paint it Black must have cost them a fortune.

Sadly, its also why you won't find any original Zepplin on here, and don't even think about Metallica.

Enter Sandman would probably cost them more than what the the other two GHII games costed to make in their entiretly combined. I love Metallica and everything, but they're the greediest bastards you'll ever meet.

From the press release (courtesy Kotaku, at least for this post):

The exclusive Gibson guitars will include innovative features such as removable faceplates that will allow fans to later personalize their guitars and make it their own, and a new button color design that will be integrated for an even greater authentic feel and rock experience.

For me, that strongly implies that they've tweaked the core gameplay mechanic and control scheme just enough to mandate that you buy the new guitar if you want to play. I hate press releases, as corporatespeak always raises my blood pressure and gets the bile churning.

EDIT: jayeryh, please note it's "color design", not "color scheme". Kind of insidious wording, methinks. To me, it suggests that it's not just same buttons, cooler colors.

Well, D or no D, if I can't use the Guitar from the soon-to-be-mine GHII, then fuck activition. Speaking of whom, I'm almost certain that they'll pull an asshole menuver and has system-specific songs, or at least a system-specific speacial edition that with contain exclusive songs. Mark my words.

[Mr. Anderson]

I like the way you think! I'd like to see some In Flames in there as well. "Blinded by Fear" by At the Gates would rule! Or how about "Angel of Death" by Slayer. Jesus, my hand hurts just thinking about it....

You rock.

[xdl]

Weezer and Tenacious D? Those two definitely are guitar heros. Actually the only thing that will make my life complete is if Jack Black and his fat friend fall off the planet Earth.

Other than that, me like. They definitely need to get the ball rolling on Zeppelin and Metallica though.

[radjago]

For those of you that don't think Tenacious D is a good fit for GH, just listem to "The Metal" and you'll realize it will be kick ass to play.
The Metal isn't bad. Someone made a custom track for it on Guitar Hero II. Master Exploder would be so much better.

[mykevermin]

Enter Sandman would probably cost them more than what the the other two GHII games costed to make in their entiretly combined. I love Metallica and everything, but they're the greediest bastards you'll ever meet.

There's no disputing Metallica's greed, but from an outsider's perspective, the idea of "lotsa money in smaller increments" seems vastly better than "no money at all because Metallica is greedy." Right?

Of course, reality doesn't work that way; I recall some GHII developer interviews, where they would bristle at the inevitable "Metallica!" and "Led Zeppelin!" questions, because they obviously wanted to include them, but couldn't afford the licensing fees.

Cherub Rock is a perfect GH song. It's got great guitar all the way through.

That's the thing about Guitar Hero, and what the "perfect" Smashing Pumpkins song would be. They're more or less relegated to the "hit" songs, aren't they? In the case of Van Halen in GHII, they had to use a well-known song of theirs that was a cover (that pesky licensing again), but for the most part, we aren't going to see Danzig's "Her Black Wings" (much to my chagrin). When they were included, there was no doubt it would be "Mother." Can't the same be said for other bands?

That's why I insist upon L7, instead of "Rock n' Roll Motherfucker" by The Hookers. I'm just grounded in reality; that's all.

[Plinko]

Why is everybody so up on Muse? I saw them opening for Foo Fighters and the Red Hot Chili Peppers a few years ago and they blew big time. Have they gotten better?

[Javery]

That's the thing about Guitar Hero, and what the "perfect" Smashing Pumpkins song would be. They're more or less relegated to the "hit" songs, aren't they? In the case of Van Halen in GHII, they had to use a well-known song of theirs that was a cover (that pesky licensing again), but for the most part, we aren't going to see Danzig's "Her Black Wings" (much to my chagrin). When they were included, there was no doubt it would be "Mother." Can't the same be said for other bands?

Exactly. I don't mind getting the "hits" for a GH game because it's actually what I would expect and what would appeal to the broadest audience to sell more copies so we eventually get GH4, GH5, etc. Of course the elitist SP fan in me could name 50 songs I like better by them but none of them would be as well suited to the game as "Cherub Rock" will be. It's a great pick out of the 20 or so SP "hit" songs. Maybe one day we will get an iTunes-like service on the marketplace where any song you buy is instantly playable in GH so I could play "La Dolly Vita" or "Bury Me" but for now I'm quite content with "Cherub Rock."

[mykevermin]

http://www.destructoid.com/crisis-averted-third-guitar-hero-won-t-require-a-new-peripheral-31753.phtml

"We contacted Red Octane for clarification, and fortunately for them (money for a hit was seconds away from changing hands), they were able to ease our minds.

"The new color button design will definitely not affect the actual game play," Red Octane's Brian Lam told Destructoid. "Rather it is merely for a more authentic rock look and feel, and the SG and X-Plorer guitars will still work with their specific platform for the next Guitar Hero title."

Phew.

[evanft]

I'm thinking about making one unified "New Guitar Hero Games" thread. Should I? It would make keeping up to date easier.

[Friend of Sonic]

I don't play Guitar Hero, but it seems like I should with a tracklist like that. The Muse song fits perfectly.

[FriskyTanuki]

I'm thinking about making one unified "New Guitar Hero Games" thread. Should I? It would make keeping up to date easier.

You mean like this (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138756) one?

[Scorch]

You mean like this (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138756) one?

I think he means one for all GH games for ALL consoles, not just PS2.

[FriskyTanuki]

I think he means one for all GH games for ALL consoles, not just PS2.
Nobody's going to kill you for talking about Guitar Hero or Guitar Hero II in that thread, or GHIII on any other console.

Just having one thread isn't going to be enough, as your Linkin Primes (no offense) will create their own threads in their own forums and not worry about the other forums. I'm just updating that one with any news of new tracks or features for the two upcoming GH games when it comes out. I'd be up for moving my thread to this forum, but it just seems like it's not going to solve anything.

[KaneRobot]

we aren't going to see Danzig's "Her Black Wings" (much to my chagrin). When they were included, there was no doubt it would be "Mother." Can't the same be said for other bands?
Mother was the worst song in GHII...because that guy singing was a motherfucking abomination. I'm almost glad they used that song instead of something else because at least we got some comedic value out of it. Yes, Twist of Cain would have been an excellent low-level song, Am I Demon or Dirty Black Summer would have been a decent low/intermediate tunes...but hearing that guy they have singing them would have made me put a foot in my television.

[mykevermin]

Agreed. I think they hired Ian Astbury's alcoholic and mentally challenged brother for that track.

[Javery]

The Pearl Jam track is by far the worst cover in any Guitar Hero game, IMO. The guy they used sounds NOTHING like Eddie Vedder.

[red flare graf]

The Metal isn't bad. Someone made a custom track for it on Guitar Hero II. Master Exploder would be so much better.

That's pretty much the best song on The Pick of Destiny.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

The Pearl Jam track is by far the worst cover in any Guitar Hero game, IMO. The guy they used sounds NOTHING like Eddie Vedder. Which is funny because so many have tried to emulate him over the past decade. :lol:

[Javery]

Which is funny because so many have tried to emulate him over the past decade. :lol:

Seriously - it's not like Scott Stapp was busy. They could have easily afforded him too - what's a bottle of Grey Goose and a box of tissues go for these days?

[mr ryles]

tag this.

[Scorch]

No one posted updates?

The new guitar has been revealed..

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/792/792801/guitar-hero-iii-20070530022642261.jpg

First video that was posted then pulled by IGN:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=053XPMeHWeM

It looks like more of the same minus the HUD, but one thing really, really irks me. For stuff like Weezer, if you miss a note, it just muffles the Guitar noise.. so basically, it feels like you're lip synching (for the lack of a better word) on the guitar. Like you hear it on the radio and you're playing air guitar.. Versus GH1 and GH2 where I felt like I was actually playing the song. Lame.

[tiredfornow]

nice scorch

[Javery]

I like the look of the new guitar.

[Javery]

Do you guys think that they will eventually add an "open string" feature to the game? Like a black or white note that meant just strum and don't hold anything down. It would be a way to sort of squeeze an extra button out of the standard layout and up the difficulty (not that they need to). I've always been curious as to why they haven't done this since you can't play the guitar without playing open strings.

[SpecTrE3353]

Do you guys think that they will eventually add an "open string" feature to the game? Like a black or white note that meant just strum and don't hold anything down. It would be a way to sort of squeeze an extra button out of the standard layout and up the difficulty (not that they need to). I've always been curious as to why they haven't done this since you can't play the guitar without playing open strings.

Sounds like a pretty good idea actually. Maybe you should pitch it to them :)

[modium]

I also found this puppy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFmpRdqXKSI

I'm not impressed with the news thus far, save for the tracklist. The Les Paul mockup really lacks that instant recognition that the SG and the X-Plorer had. The characters look more like Tony Hawk create-a-skaters, not surprisingly. But, it's still early, and I'm sure these will be minor nitpicks and I'll become obsessed with the game once it hits. :lol:

IGN preview (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/792/792801p1.html) for the lazy. They have a look at the wireless controller too: http://gear.ign.com/articles/792/792876p1.html

[mykevermin]

I think the guitar is going to ship with a bland look (all-white) so they can sell you faceplates.

[evanft]

I just wanna know how different the PS2/Wii version will be from the 360/PS3 versions, beside the obvious. I can't imagine the differences being too big, though.

This quote from the IGN article makes me happy:

For those that worry Guitar Hero III will be too hard (and let's face it, Guitar Hero II was hard!), Neversoft has assured us that they're not aiming to make the game even harder. Instead, they're aiming for a difficulty level somewhere between the first and second Guitar Hero Games.

[flybrione]

What I don't like from the video previews in the games current build is when you miss a note it just seems the track gets quiet instead of actually sounding like you f'ed up the notes.

I do like the new guitar but not sure if I am going to buy it or not.

[modium]

What I don't like from the video previews in the games current build is when you miss a note it just seems the track gets quiet instead of actually sounding like you f'ed up the notes.After watching the Slowride video a few times, it actually does seem like the notes aren't played, rather than the track getting quieter. But, it's still hard to tell, so I could be wrong. Maybe we're just hearing the rhythm guitar playing in the background when a note is missed in the Weezer song? Just a thought.

[buttasuperb]

This quote from the IGN article makes me happy:

I hope they don't make the game easier.

GH2 has the difficulty just about right. There's a reason there's 4 difficulty levels. Something for all skill levels. If you aren't that good at the game, you aren't going to be able to beat expert. And that's how it should be.

[Javery]

I hope they don't make the game easier.

GH2 has the difficulty just about right. There's a reason there's 4 difficulty levels. Something for all skill levels. If you aren't that good at the game, you aren't going to be able to beat expert. And that's how it should be.

Even though I suck on Expert, I totally agree. Practice WILL make you better at GHII. If you don't want to put in the time then tough titties.

[Logain8955]

For those that worry Guitar Hero III will be too hard (and let's face it, Guitar Hero II was hard!), Neversoft has assured us that they're not aiming to make the game even harder. Instead, they're aiming for a difficulty level somewhere between the first and second Guitar Hero Games.


LAME! That sucks balls. Like was said, there are 4 different difficulties for a reason. Those of us who beat GH2 on Expert don't want anything easier. =\


Edit: That video was balls. The new UI just looks horrible. Why they had to go and fuck with it is beyond me. Also, why the hell did they change the combo level from 10 notes in a row to 5 notes?

I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this.

[buttasuperb]

I think it's still 10 notes for the combo multiplyer. There's 5 lights next to the display, but I think every 2 notes fills up one light.

And I wouldn't be too worried about the game just yet. This is a very early build and lots can be changed and tweaked.

[evanft]

I hope they don't make the game easier.

GH2 has the difficulty just about right. There's a reason there's 4 difficulty levels. Something for all skill levels. If you aren't that good at the game, you aren't going to be able to beat expert. And that's how it should be.

Dude, Guitar Hero 2 was clearly made for the people who were able to breeze through GH1 and now wanted something more challenging. The problem, though, is that the game's difficulty curve was awful and many of the hardest songs just weren't fun to play. They put difficulty ahead of fun, and that really soured the game for me.

[martin8me]

I hope in GIII characters/guitars/levels would have a more significant role in gameplay. In II/I there were just used as cosmetics, which was pretty lame.

A story for each character would nice, too.

[evanft]

I want the other band members to move around a lot more, especially the lead singer.

[tgk2044]

I want the other band members to move around a lot more, especially the lead singer.

and to be able to play as the hippie bassist when your playing solo.

[evanft]

MORE INFO!! (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/793/793262p1.html)

IGN had the opportunity to fly down to Neversoft's studios and give a few of these songs a test run. You can check out Slow Ride and My Name is Jonas for yourself in the video gallery below. We'll fill you in on a few others.

Paint it Black is a master track, brought into the game from the original four track recording. Playing along with the ghostly sitar riff laid down by Brian Jones over 40 years ago is simply awesome. Sabotage is also a master track and is pretty much designed around the co-op experience. The song is fairly repetitive and easy, which isn't too surprising given the song. Still, with the volume turned up, the classic is fun nonetheless.

The Living Colour song, Cult of Personality, is a track that people have been wanting in Guitar Hero for a long time. There was a slight hitch with it though. The master track was nowhere to be found. Instead of getting a cover, Living Colour came in and re-recorded the song just for the game. And they threw in a wicked solo that makes this song on expert just plain ridiculous.

Two new tracks are also being announced today, exclusively on IGN. They are:

Evenflow: Pearl Jam
Lay Down: Priestess

Evenflow is a much more fun song to play than the previous Pearl Jam song we've seen, Life Wasted, which was one of the 10 new tracks included on the Xbox 360 iteration of Guitar Hero II. It's also a master track, so you won't have to wonder how it will turn out other than note placement.

Lay Down is also a master track and it's one of those nice surprises that Guitar Hero games are known for. Priestess isn't a member of the rock pantheon so you might not have heard about them yet, but this metal song is a ton of fun to play. It's fairly fast and has a great riff to it. It isn't the toughest song to play, but the fast nature of it make it a nice choice for a Guitar Hero III battle.

2 new songs and the Living Colour song is rerecorded by the actual band to make it more awesome? YES!!!

[mykevermin]

javeryh will wake up and go right into a coma tomorrow morning after reading the Pearl Jam news.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

Best GH ever. :drool: :drool: :drool:

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Just wow on the Living Colour news. Although I don't really like the fact that there is going to be a new solo, it's extremely cool that they came in and recorded the song again.

[Javery]

javeryh will wake up and go right into a coma tomorrow morning after reading the Pearl Jam news.

HOLY SHIT!!!! Coma here I come! This is a dream come true. The MASTER TRACK?!?!?!? *passes out*

The only thing I need before I die is Guitar Hero: Pearl Jam Edition

[sblymnlcrymnl]

The only thing I need before I die is Guitar Hero: Pearl Jam Edition No mention of seeing your second child born, I see. :shame: ;)

[Javery]

No mention of seeing your second child born, I see. :shame: ;)

True, what I meant to say was "the only video game related thing I need before I die is Guitar Hero: Pearl Jam Edition." ;)

[evanft]

Battle Mode Info (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/793/793302p1.html)

June 1, 2007 - Much of the Guitar Hero franchise's success is due to its well known status as a natural party game. Grab a few friends, a case of your favorite beverage, and Guitar Hero I or II and you have one killer night. The first Guitar Hero game had a limited face-off mode, but that didn't stop the parties. GH II expanded the multiplayer fun with co-op play and pro face-off. Guitar Hero III adds more. A lot more.

The co-op play from Guitar Hero II is being extended into its own career mode. Online play is being added. And then there's the new battle mode. Inspired by the 1986 Ralph Macchio "classic" Crossroads, this mode is about facing off against a competitor and matching whatever they can throw at you. By the way, if you haven't seen Crossroads, you should. It ends with Ralph Macchio facing off against Steve Vai, who plays the devil's guitarist, in a guitar battle for eternal souls. Hell yeah.

While it isn't possible to trade off improvised licks in Guitar Hero like a real guitar duel, the new battle mode does keep you on your toes. Here's how it works. Star power doesn't exist in battle mode. Instead, matching every "star" note in a lick gives you a power-up to use against your opponent. These attacks only last a brief moment, but they do wonders towards throwing your adversary off his or her game. Up to three power-ups can be stored to use at the right moment and tilting your guitar vertically (just like activating star power) uses one of your attacks.

When we first heard had this mode explained to us, it sounded a bit cheesy. Then we gave it a shot and realized it's flat out fun. Sending over a few attacks at the right moment, whether it's when they're trying to snatch up an attack themselves or in the midst of a tricky solo, is so deviously satisfying that you can't help but grin.

Here's a rundown of the attacks we got a chance to try out. They may change in name or function before the game comes out and others may get tossed into the mix, too.

Broken String: When an opponent breaks one of your strings, that button on the guitar controller won't work until you fix it. To do so you'll have to rapidly tap that "string" until it is repaired.

Difficulty Up: This one won't appear if both players have the difficulty set to expert. If you're playing on hard or lower and this gets sent your way, then you'll find yourself playing up a difficulty level for a brief period of time.

Amp Overload: This attack causes the scrolling fret board on screen to shake and blur, making it extremely difficult to read which notes are approaching.

Whammy Bar: If you get attacked with this bad boy, you'll have to get your whammy bar moving and fast before you can play notes again.

Steal Power: This one is self-explanatory. Use it to steal an attack from your opponent before they can use it. If they don't have one to steal and you activate this power, you'll lose it.

Double Notes: Make your opponent double up on how many notes they have to play for a short period of time: Devastating in the midst of a crazy solo.

Lefty Flip: The attack to end all attacks. Putting lefty flip on your opponent forces them to either transcribe the music or actually flip their guitar over and play left handed. Used at the right moment, it can not be stopped.

The game continues until one person fails out. If both people make it to the end, a sudden death sequence will play out, though it hasn't been implemented in the build of the game we played. Right now, the team is working on balancing each song so that they have the right number of power-ups so that the game doesn't always end in a sudden death face-off, though with really good players that conclusion seems inevitable. Both players can choose their own difficulty, so choosing a difficulty below one's skill level seems like a cheap way to guarantee a sudden death ending. Neversoft assured us that it is doing a lot of play testing to balance everything out.

We played a bunch of different songs and found some to work in battle mode better than others. One thing was consistent though; the tension level is higher than any other multiplayer mode we've played for Guitar Hero. Perpetually being on the verge of failing out, and having somebody at your side to blame it on, is great fuel for trash talking and rematch challenges. So far, this looks like a very welcome addition to the Guitar Hero world.

WHY CAN'T THE WII VERSION HAVE ONLINE PLAY?!?!?!?!?! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

[sblymnlcrymnl]

True, what I meant to say was "the only video game related thing I need before I die is Guitar Hero: Pearl Jam Edition." ;) Riiiiiiight. ;)


I hope your wife doesn't see that. I don't think she'd buy that excuse. :lol:

[evanft]

Man, people on the Score Hero and official GH forums are bitching already. Apparently, the slight changes in the HUD and character design makes the game crap. Yeah, cause it really fucking matters what the characters look like or what color the star power meter is. Oh, and apparently the song list sucks, too. I guess everyone thinks Neversoft and Activision will ruin the game and turn it into a THPS situation, releasing one every year with marginal improvements.

Of course, the irony is that Rock Band is being published by EA. Now if that shit doesn't scare you, nothing will.

[buttasuperb]

Man, people on the Score Hero and official GH forums are bitching already. Apparently, the slight changes in the HUD and character design makes the game crap. Yeah, cause it really fucking matters what the characters look like or what color the star power meter is. Oh, and apparently the song list sucks, too. I guess everyone thinks Neversoft and Activision will ruin the game and turn it into a THPS situation, releasing one every year with marginal improvements.

Of course, the irony is that Rock Band is being published by EA. Now if that shit doesn't scare you, nothing will.

Yea noticed that over at scorehero. It's hilarious, but not surprising, people will complain about anything.

And they could release one every 3 months with no improvements and I'd be fine with it. The more songs the better.

[alongx]

There's some good songs on the list, but I do have doubts that Neversoft is up to the task.

[mr ryles]

Not sure if this has been brought up, but will my x-plorer work for GH3?

[mykevermin]

yep.

[mr ryles]

thats good.

[Javery]

OK, in addition to my idea to use an "open" string on the guitar I also think they should place 5 more buttons at the base of the neck. These buttons should be the same colors as the ones up top but smaller and a little closer together and used for solos in songs. I think it would add to the feel of playing a real guitar and they wouldn't have to reprogram any of the existing songs - they could make it optional to use the "solo" buttons but maybe worth a little more point-wise.

Thoughts?

[munch]

OK, in addition to my idea to use an "open" string on the guitar I also think they should place 5 more buttons at the base of the neck. These buttons should be the same colors as the ones up top but smaller and a little closer together and used for solos in songs. I think it would add to the feel of playing a real guitar and they wouldn't have to reprogram any of the existing songs - they could make it optional to use the "solo" buttons but maybe worth a little more point-wise.

Thoughts?

I thought an open string should have been in place the whole time. It just makes sense, especially with a lot of the metal songs.

[seanr1221]

Battle Mode Info (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/793/793302p1.html)



WHY CAN'T THE WII VERSION HAVE ONLINE PLAY?!?!?!?!?! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

? I thought it was going to.

[Backlash]

OK, in addition to my idea to use an "open" string on the guitar I also think they should place 5 more buttons at the base of the neck. These buttons should be the same colors as the ones up top but smaller and a little closer together and used for solos in songs. I think it would add to the feel of playing a real guitar and they wouldn't have to reprogram any of the existing songs - they could make it optional to use the "solo" buttons but maybe worth a little more point-wise.

Thoughts?

One of the third-party guitars has that exact feature. I forget which one, though.

[D_Icon]

Will the characters from GH/GH2 still be playable or are they retired?

Also, what would be really cool is if you not only picked your guitar player, but also if you could pick the singer, bassist, and the drummer.

Yes I know RockBand whatever its called is coming out, but like I said it would be cool to pick all the characters in the band.

[evanft]

? I thought it was going to.

None of the recent articles mention it having it.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

OK, in addition to my idea to use an "open" string on the guitar I also think they should place 5 more buttons at the base of the neck. These buttons should be the same colors as the ones up top but smaller and a little closer together and used for solos in songs. I think it would add to the feel of playing a real guitar and they wouldn't have to reprogram any of the existing songs - they could make it optional to use the "solo" buttons but maybe worth a little more point-wise.

Thoughts? More buttons = More expensive.

[evanft]

Yeah, more buttons=lame.

I just hope we get more Judas Priest.

[FriskyTanuki]

Will the characters from GH/GH2 still be playable or are they retired?

Also, what would be really cool is if you not only picked your guitar player, but also if you could pick the singer, bassist, and the drummer.

Yes I know RockBand whatever its called is coming out, but like I said it would be cool to pick all the characters in the band.
I doubt it, because it looks like they're not adding new models for the other band members. That son of Steven Tyler singer is still around.

As for the guitarists from the first two games, watch the video and you'll see that they're returning, but have been given a makeover.

[Logain8955]

I'm agreeing with the people over at scorehero right now, but not as fervently.

I don't like the new ui. Not because it's different, but because it just looks *bad*. I really don't like the design of it.

That Battle mode sounds lame too. GH multiplayer was all about which person played better. This one seems to add on Freq/Amp style attacks, which just don't fit the feel of the game.

I like the song list though. Tenacious D is win.

I hope they don't screw it up.

[gorgonzola238]

OK, in addition to my idea to use an "open" string on the guitar I also think they should place 5 more buttons at the base of the neck. These buttons should be the same colors as the ones up top but smaller and a little closer together and used for solos in songs. I think it would add to the feel of playing a real guitar and they wouldn't have to reprogram any of the existing songs - they could make it optional to use the "solo" buttons but maybe worth a little more point-wise.

Thoughts?

Already done http://www.theantcommandos.com/double_range_freedom.aspx

Well... The guitar part anyway.

[Flyersfan]

Two new videos, posted today :)


Tenacious D- The Metal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41TeYVNZ8B4


Living Colour - Cult of Personality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-AjmRnTYGg


They both show off the new vs. mode, I was confused at first with that whammy sign up, but then I remembered reading that IGN preview.


Also, I love the Hendrix dude in the vid. They revamped him up :)

[buttasuperb]

Better resolution vids

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/899/899096/vids_1.html

I can't wait for this game. Battle mode looks to be a nice change of pace.

[Javery]

Battle mode is playable over Live, right?

[evanft]

Battle mode looks fun as hell.