CAGcast #79: CheapyD and Wombat Show

[CheapyD]

If you were waiting for a long CAGcast, your prayers are answered! If not, fast forwarding is your new God. We cover everything in this episode. Yes, EVERYTHING! Want to know which big 3 game company has the best PR? ANSWERED! Has Cheapy ever seen Scarface on weed? ANSWERED!
CAGbag (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71382) questions? ANSWERED!
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Show Linkage/Notes (click the button below to expand):

Intro music: Tom and Jerry (NES)


CAG Foreplay Podcast #3: New Releases (6/12/07) (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../archives/cag-foreplay-podcast-3-new-releases-61207.php)

Hori Play Stand DS Lite - Video Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQF5KX6WyqY)
UK IGN Mario Strikers Charged Review (http://wii.ign.com/articles/790/790253p1.html)
Bringing Us Close Together: Rampant Japan-US Pokemon Trading (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/bringing-us-close-together/rampant-japan+us-pokemon-trading-268332.php)
Drink Up: Wii Tennis Tourney (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/drink-up/wii-tennis-tourney-268339.php)
Wii Makes Comic Appearance (http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2007/06/11/the-wii-makes-its-way-into-print-comics/http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2007/06/11/the-wii-makes-its-way-into-print-comics/)
My Wii is Full (http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_my_wii_is_full.php)

The Agency (http://www.destructoid.com/sony-online-entertainment-announces-the-agency-32805.phtml)
PS3 Tekken 5 going online via premium update in Japan (http://feeds.joystiq.com/%7Er/weblogsinc/joystiq/%7E3/124618156/)
Sony Blog (http://blog.us.playstation.com/)

Rockstar's L.A. Noire listed for PS3 only in T2 report (http://feeds.joystiq.com/%7Er/weblogsinc/joystiq/%7E3/124610110/)
Redesigned PSP's impact on the market. (new design details) (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140772)
Boy defends PS3 with samurai sword - wins badass of the day award (http://www.destructoid.com/boy-defends-ps3-with-samurai-sword-wins-badass-of-the-day-award-32871.phtml)

Rumor: Microsoft adding extra cooling to repaired 360s
(http://feeds.joystiq.com/%7Er/weblogsinc/joystiq/%7E3/124268444/)Gears of War Title Update Includes New Multiplayer Achievements
(http://gearsofwar.com/News/news_6-14-+title+update.htm)America's Army exclusive to Xbox 360 (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/06/12/americas-army-exclusive-to-xbox-360/)

Free Shipping on Select Games at GameFly (ends 6/18)
(http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../archives/free-shipping-on-select-games-at-gamefly-ends-618.php)Target / CC / BB Video Game Prices: 6/17/07 - 6/23/07 ** Uber Thread **
(http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140539)Best Buy slashes PS3 game prices, riot ensues (http://www.destructoid.com/best-buy-slashes-ps3-game-prices-riot-ensues-32895.phtml)

More Guitar Hero 80s Tracks Revealed (http://au.gamespot.com/news/6172368.html)
Shoot: First Hitman Movie Publicity Pic (http://kotaku.com/gaming/bang-bang/early-look-at-hitman-movie-261159.phphttp://www.kotaku.com/gaming/shoot/first-hitman-movie-publicity-pic-268303.php)

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Outro: Henry Thomas Intellivision Commercial (http://gameads.gamepressure.com/tv_game_commercial.asp?ID=5741)

[thespamofpower]

wow. Nearly 2 hours of CAGcast. Downloading now

[gunm]

awesome! tagged!

[AshesofWake]

"Has Cheapy ever seen Scarface on weed? ANSWERED!"

my god, i can't wait to find out

[JDUB X]

Awesome, Thanks CheapyD!

[yukine]

Hell yeah, CAGcast!

[HooHaa]

My aunts from planet Hulk.

[thorbahn3]

I'm so glad you told that story about my Mother... To be honest, I don't talk to her too much since she lives in New Jersey and she's always curious as to what I do. but yeah, your mom on CAG, creepy. Better to have a Mom who cares than not one at all I suppose.

[JDUB X]

Wombat, You really should send your 360 to MS because

A: Theres a chance that a malfunctioning Disc tray may scratch your discs.

and

B: MS says that people should not focus on the 360 failure rate and focus on their Customer support and Repair center. If more people dont hold them to that then MS gets away with selling a defective product.

[KingBroly]

Cheapy, I think you need to do a tad bit more hunting when it comes to Nintendo news, at least in the rumor department. It was a couple of weeks ago that rumors started flying about Nintendo's E3 plans, which included the announcement of Mario Kart for the Wii and a Hard Drive. It would've been a great follow-up to the maxing out the Wii story.

Other than that, a great show as always, keep up the good work.

[JDUB X]

CheapyD, If the PS3 riot story from Desrtuctoid was this one (http://www.destructoid.com/best-buy-slashes-ps3-game-prices-riot-ensues-32895.phtml)

Those Riots actually occured during the launch of the PS3 in November. Destructoid was just making a joke about how no one cares about the PS3 anymore and Best Buy has to now slash game prices to try and earn sales.

[CheapyD]

My bad on the riot story...
Or maybe Destructoid's bad...

[lspear76]

Funny episode, a lot more relaxed than the live shows. Good thing I was listening alone... if you know what I mean. I'm gonna be in trouble if someone else listens to the show. I did not expect you to read that question since I wrote it to be answered 2 weeks ago. Fucking Cheapy!

[Surferflames]

Shazbot! A next gen tribes has been on my wishlist for a while.

Tribes 1/2 were a great games, but the mod community is what really made it last so long. I miss lancing people from behind with the little shock gun. Vengeance on the other hand..not so much.

Good show this week guys.

[Bazz]

Can't wait to give this show a listen , but have to wait untill after work. Awesome Thanks Cheapy & Wombat!

Who ever thinks live shows aren't fun and exciting are crazy if you ask me. They're so fun to hear and gives a chance to be apart of the cag show as wells as gives a ton of chances of awesome spontaneous things to happen.

Wombat take it from me don't send in your 360 untill it's 100% dead , Xbox has the worst customer support ever I know you've had your system repaired before , but still it's just not worth it unless you go on a vacation it's the best time to send out your system. Being it takes a month at least for everything.

7 days for you to get box , 7 days untill they get your system then 7 days for them to return it. Of course this happens because they use the slowest shipping and always ends up somehow over the weekend and box never ends up in transit so always ends up wasting days. I don't care what they say weekend should be a buissness day they need to start shipping usps then.

[FoxHoundADAM]

Alright, this will make the work day go by faster.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

There is a massive NeoGAF thread about Mario Strikers by the actual UK owners and they rave about the online mode. Don't forget that even though Strikers uses friend codes to play against "friends," you can play against anyone else without friend codes. You only have to exchange friend codes to play with people you know, otherwise you just go online and play.

The VC games storage issue could be addressed by the rumored hard drive accessory that is coming. You also don't have to move VC games to SD cards to free up space, you could just delete them completely and re-download them later. That might not be too inconvenient for the larger games, but it wouldn't be too much of a hassle for NES, TG-16, and Genesis games.

[KingBroly]

While I agree that Overlord's demo was good, it was short (it felt like it was shorter than 30 minutes, especially given the size). I would actually say the demo was like Zelda and Pikmin, given the tutorial nature of it.

Although it makes me want to buy it, given that it has a worse than Shadowrun pricing plan ($60 on 360 while $40 on PC) makes me say no to a purchase early.

[gorgo]

Good cagcast! Wombat, you're on this week... I lol'd a few times to your jokes.

Cheapy, regarding your Code Veronica experience... I hit a similar wall on the Dreamcast version. Apparently I used too much ammo early in the game, so when I got to the fight on the airplane at the very end of disc 1, I didn't have enough left to kill the big bad dude. Didn't have a save with enough more ammo, so... no more game. No way I was going to start over. Even the Gameshark, which I bought JUST to be able to get past this, failed me. The only ammo cheat could only be enabled from the beginning of the game. Poor design, indeed.

[trip1eX]

VC games definitely have some DRM on them so you can't play them at a friends house. Remember you can (already) back them up to SD cards as it is and transfer them back to Flash memory as needed.

The talk about NeoGeo games and not enough room? NeoGames are (for the most part) a max of 330 MegaBITS not MegaBYTES. There are 8 bits in a byte folks. :)

[Blaine]

Neo Geo games aren't as big as it sounds. They're listed in megabits not bytes, divide by 8.

N64 games are larger than Neo Geo games.

[lordwow]

I love you guys and you're hillarious and all of that. Anyways, I have to say, this CAGCast had 3 of the most intellegent comments I've heard:

1) A new Tribes. Tribes 1 was badass, and I thought Tribes 2 was underrated. There was a new Tribes for PC, but it ended up retailing for like $30 (yikes). I know there are some legal issues becuase I believe Dynamix shut down, but I too would love a 360 version of Tribes... maybe even an XBLA version of Tribes 1. I mean, it can't be that expensive. There was no copy protection on 1 and that disk got passed around like hotcakes... or something... probably not hotcakes, I've never had them.

2) Wombat's comments on affiliates. Probably the smartest thing I've heard come out of his mouth. I checked out the site just on the basis that Cheapy made the post, and I too was disappointed.

3) Cheapy's comments on marriage. I'm not married, but my girlfriend and I spend most of our free time together. We really are best friends, and it's great to hear confirmation from both Cheapy and Wombat that they find the same to be true of their wives.

[Jackal888]

The length was perfect and it address lots of topics that were necessary and fresh. Hearing about the affiliates program was interesting.Listening to Wombat beg for Shadowrun was groan inducing. I really enjoy that Sony thinks they are upper crust and need not silly RSS Feeds that speak about games.

I am glad to say that this week besides the whole "riot" CheapyD did not spread misinformation.

The Live Cagcast will contiue I hope. I have heard the first cagcasts and they were painful. "CAGLive" will get better as you do more of them.

[Blaine]

With regards to the affiliate who sells mod stuff....

Walmart sells "modchips". I bought a Datel Game 'n Music DS card. It's pretty much just a 'homebrew kit' with a microSD card in it. You can download hombrew or just download ROMS.

They even have the balls to have Mario screenshots on the back (though it's from a homebrew Mario game).

Word is they'll be carrying the Datel Drive Doctor for the Wii (which is also just a Mod Chip).

I'm very ambivelant on mods. Personally I like to own games, have no bootlegs and probably never will. I do, however, love imports and homebrew.

There's good and bad.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5716126

[Bartex]

hey guys love the live show, don't let the negative comments stop you from contuning, cuz in no time you'll have it running like a hot knife through butter! and the reason for no voice acting in the forelore demo was to keep the file size down and you can't share your vc games with friends cuz when you download them, your wii 'signatures' the game, and it will only work on your console!

[itachiitachi]

You totally wussed out on pleasant1's question about emulation of older games. Sure some games you can buy some games on the VC but that’s not even 1% of them and some games like golden eye 64 we will never be able to buy, So is emulation wrong for games that we can't buy yet(and probably not any time soon) or will never be able to buy? Also many people want these old games on portable systems which is not offered to us at all, How many cags do you think want mother 3, chrono trigger ect... on there ds,gba,psp but they wont give us an opportunity to buy them.



Also Japan's suicide rate had been relatively low (I think close to or even lower than the US's) but has been on the rise especially in the past 10 years. It’s speculated to be due to the economic down turn(they still have a high unemployment rate) and the elderly (who more likely to commit suicide) becoming a larger proportion of the population.

[shidoshi]

You didn't need the fire extinguisher in Code Veronica, silly Cheapy. If you wanted to snag the Magnum, you needed it to put out the fire, but otherwise you could continue on with the game just fine. I know this for a fact, because I screwed myself on having it later in the game as well (I left it in the security check box), and had no problem beating the game.

[fullmetalfan720]

Great show this week. I think that every non-live show you should have a longer CAGbag to make up for what you missed on the live show.

[Royale]

If I remember right from my business law class, an advertisement is only an invitation for someone to come to your place of business and make an offer for some product or service. A business is not required to honor errors in their ads and I think that most have a disclaimer about it. But as you all say, it does make for good customer service.

Great show by the way. I don't mind at all when they're long because I can listen all day at work.

[moonknight25]

Great long show guys, I enjoyed it! As for the whole debate about that videogame site, heres my two cents.......Normally I wouldn't care if a site or b/m store sold bootleg crap, as long as their prices on their legit stuff was great, then so be it. But Oracle's site sucks pretty bad dude, I could go to the local FLEA MARKET in Jax and get better deals....which is not good lol. But, it all comes down to you Cheapy, I have a feeling from hearing you talk about this on the podcast that this is killing ya. I know its not all about the cash with you and that you just want to improve the cag community. I respect whatever decision you make! Btw, you guys should keep doing your live shows.....the level of community interaction makes them great!

[zewone]

The PSP came with Spiderman 2.

n00bs. ;) ;) ;)

[CheapyD]

The PSP came with Spiderman 2.

n00bs. ;) ;) ;)

See...didn't I say that?!?!? Silly Wombat.

[shipwreck]

See...didn't I say that?!?!? Silly Wombat.

Yes, you did.

But it's pronounced "Guyden", bitch.

And yes, you corrected yourself, but I corrected you first when I was driving in my car.

[zewone]

Hey, I live in Fresno where the riot was.

This is the second riot at that Bestbuy because of the PS3.

[cool8man]

Cheapy, Wombat... Xbox Live Arcade pricing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_Live_Arcade#Xbox_Live_Arcade_games_for_the_Xb ox_360) is pretty simple:

$5 (400 points) Games = Coin-op Classics + 1st Party Published originals
Examples: Joust, Dig Dug, Centipede, Double Dragon//Geometry Wars, Uno, Jetpac Refuelled

The only 2 exceptions to this rule are classic fighting games (Street Fighter II, Mortal Kombat 3) which are $10 instead of $5.

$10 (800 points) Games = PC Classics + Console Classics + 3rd Party Published originals
Examples: Doom, Prince of Persia//Castlevania//Pinball FX, Assault Heroes, Pac-Man C.E., Boom Boom Rocket

[JDUB X]

Hey, I live in Fresno where the riot was.

This is the second riot at that Bestbuy because of the PS3.

Actually, there was no second riot. The riot mentioned was the riot from launch night.

Destructoid was just making a joke about how people used to want a PS3

[cywulftl]

Hearing Wombats comments on his defective 360 has me worried. Mine failed about an hour and a half from taking it out of the box. It scratched a perfect circle on the disk, then it said the disk was not clean and stop often with every game i own. I sent it back for repairs once and recently i received the same error again. Do you guys know if buying a cooling system will help avoid the problem, cause i heard it has to do with it overheating.

[bigtymer]

"Dictionary a day calendar..."
-Wombat

That's a hell of a calendar!!!

[doctorfaustus]

I had to skip the Planet Hulk summary 'cause I've yet to read it...

Is the TPB out? Amazon says it comes out on the 27th.

[Mechafenris]

BTW.. Cheapy and Wombat are right... a price is an invitation to bargain... a store no more has to honor a price than it is required to sell something to people.

(So these "you must honor the advertised price" folks are full of crapola.)


Usually they'll honor the price just to shut people up... ;)

[aboulhosnc]

Under the Federal Trade Commission Act (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/15/41.html):

Advertising must be truthful and non-deceptive;
Advertisers must have evidence to back up their claims; and
Advertisements cannot be unfair.so yeah they have to honor their ads and no it is not an "invitation to bargain" I don't know about online ads, but for store ads the stores have to honor it there are laws for it or else everyone would lie about their products

[H.Cornerstone]

Did Cheapy say that he was excited for something that is coming out for the PS3? ;-) And is it just me, or did Cheapy's audio sound different? Seems like I had to turn my speakers up a lot louder than usual.

And everyone complains about the price of the PS3 and lack of price, but what people fail to relize is that my friend who's 360 broke, cost him $180 to fix and pretty much paid what it would have for a PS3. And What would you guys rather have? Hardware failures or software failures.

Did you guys record this before the Time Crisis 4 announcement?

And Wombat, were you not a Casino Royale fan?

I liked the answer to my question, nothing that I thought of and I agree with people only making rational criticisms.

[JDUB X]

BTW.. Cheapy and Wombat are right... a price is an invitation to bargain... a store no more has to honor a price than it is required to sell something to people.

(So these "you must honor the advertised price" folks are full of crapola.)


Usually they'll honor the price just to shut people up... ;)
If Best Buy makes a error in their Add they post a correction on their door.

[rogueweapon]

even though you are a BIG disappointment! Anyway, I just recently received back my 4th 360 and its the best one yet. After 2 red rings and a refurbished model that sounded like a helicopter in my living room, they finally sent me a newer system. I did bitch to customer service that they sent me a piece of shit and to please replace it with a new model. Also GUN Cheapy.. really? You should check out Red Dead Revolver, its a way better western game. It nailed the quick draw mechanic and the Spaghetti western style. GUN was a big disappointment in my book. I personally can't wait for the next gen Red Dead, we saw a glimpse of it a few E3s ago where Rockstar showed of some next gen teasers. good show guys.
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now thats a cag mug

[LiK]

i can't believe shipwreck never saw Godfather...do it now!

[thefalcon]

FYI, the update for the PS3 Tekken 5 will also include Practice Mode and Survival Mode. Don't know if that will be worth it to some, but just to let you know the upgrade is a little more than online capabilities.

[Roufuss]

Cheapy, drop VGC as an affiliate and contact Tony from LionGames - the guy posts here often enough, is extremely nice and helpful, has really low prices on some hot games, and the store seems to be very reputable.

He seems like the type that would definitely go for an affiliate slot, because it would be mutually beneficial to both groups.

VGC doesn't fit in with the other affiliates - Gamefly, Amazon, Play-Asia. All of them offer fantastic customer service, amazing prices, great deals. VGC offers none of this.

The guy is actually even slandering Play-Asia now in that thread, which, imo, is one of our best affiliates and is really close to the site - the whole Child's Play thing as well as the very awesome special coupon we got. Cheapy, it's not just about bad deals anymore, these guys are slimy to the core.

But shame on you for not checking them out :cry:

[G-Dog]

My 2 Cents about the comics

Planet Hulk was really good. It's very much like a Conan story.

Irredeemable Antman is really good. Some average Joe gets his hands on the new Ant Suit that lets him shrink to the size of an aunt and be super strong. So, naturally he uses his power to watch women in the shower. He’s a shmuck of a guy, hence the Irredeemable title.

[daroga]

Cheapy, I'm going to second Roufuss' request to drop VGC as an affliiate. The guy in the thread in the deals section is bad-mouthing your other, reputible affiliates (Play-Asia, etc.), and the inclusion of their potential-for-piracy tools in their store violates the ToS we have to abide bt in the trading forums.

I love CAG and try to support it via affiliate links even if I'm not buying game-related things (say on Amazon), but I don't feel I can continue to support the site through said links as long as that joke of site is part of our "network."

[botticus]

Cheapy, I'm going to second Roufuss' request to drop VGC as an affliiate. The guy in the thread in the deals section is bad-mouthing your other, reputible affiliates (Play-Asia, etc.), and the inclusion of their potential-for-piracy tools in their store violates the ToS we have to abide bt in the trading forums.

I love CAG and try to support it via affiliate links even if I'm not buying game-related things (say on Amazon), but I don't feel I can continue to support the site through said links as long as that joke of site is part of our "network."Thirded. I was actually okay with things (other than the hypocrisy of the mod stuff), because he seemed to be actively interacting with CAGs and taking their comments in the best way possible, and I didn't really have any interest in buying from a random independent retailer anyway. But now not only is he attacking other affiliates, he's doing so by just plain making stuff up. Lik-Sang folded and was reborn as Play-Asia? Really?

[meager]

After listening to the live shows and the return to normal shows between them, I'm now convinced the show is best recorded.

First of all, I listen to your show to hear you guys. I don't download the "Cheapy Fans Show." And the quality and awkwardness of the callers does not help. And I'm listening to the heavily edited version... I can just imagine the pain of being there live. Having produced live radio shows, I know you need to be more selective and quicker to dump callers.

Second of all, are you no longer going to include the rest of your listeners in you contests? Just the hundred that can be around at that time have a shot now? Hmm.

If you want to continue having listeners on the show, perhaps you could have them send you questions & comments via audio files which you can play during the show? Or just keep the chatroom live during the show, and you can read questions and helpful corrections off your screen.

Also, perhaps it is time to tweak your show format. You seem to be competing with the Shipwrecks' new show rather than working with them. You have a segment that goes over the same new releases coming out which you also haven't played. Perhaps you can just tell listeners to download CAG's "sister" podcast for that and just talk about games you have played. This will probably also help keep archived shows for having so much dated material.

I don't think the CAGcast necessarily needs to discuss deals that will be expired in a week. Your strength is the dynamic between the hosts. The semi-antagonistic relationship between Cheapy and Wombat is what gets me to go back and download older podcasts, even if I have to zone out during talk of what Circuit City had on sale last November. You two are a great foil for each other.

And if Cheapy & Wombat are an old bickering couple, The Shipwrecks are the playfully nagging newlyweds. The CAG Foreplay podcast has greatly improved since its recent inception and is a great addition to your website. Mrs. Shipwreck has especially improved; she's has gotten less shy and has become the prominent host... not bad for only three shows in. Will the CAG Foreplay podcast be getting a section of its own in the forums?

Wow, this is really long.

Anyhoo, I also enjoyed the cucumber pepsi video. But I do hope you're past the unboxing video stage by the time you hit Depends age. And I never had a problem with your head glare, but I have wondered... are your eyes black or is even more light needed in your room?

That's enough for me. Have a day!

[Scobie]

After well over 100 episodes of the CAGcast, I find myself to still be both surprised and delighted at how crescent fresh this continues to be. Cheapy, bless you. Wombat, bless you *and* thank you. You two make the internet zing with a crisp, flavorfulness that is nearly unparalleled. If these were ancient times, hot babes in togas would fan you and feed you grapes, and as well they should.

Don't ever stop, even if the feds are beating down the door to arrest you for your many crimes against state-sponsored boredom.

[MSUHitman]

Great show again guys. Wombat did you go to those stores I mentioned and also did you see F4 Rise of the Silver Surfer? What were your impressions? Cheapy, thanks for mentioning the CAGHL league. Too bad we reseeded or I would of had my chance at revenge against you in the semifinals (you beat me in our only game during the season.)

Also, don't forget if you want to try Marvel Trading Card Game again I can help you, maybe over XBox Live chat/Vision chat. Also here was the old demo site again if you needed it:

http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/marvel/en/demo.aspx

[zakk]

What the fuck is this crap about selling R4DS' being illegal? You can also write your own code and run it on the DS without paying ridiculous fees to nintendo. At GDC I think they even had some people who had done that in some indie area. With the swap discs and other mod chips you can also play games from outside your region. This is clearly not a cut and dry evil issue, please do not give in to strongly-worded internet statements that say otherwise. If you get a C&D, fold. But not for angry forum trolls. I'm not saying warez games, or download omg romz, but it is perfectly legitimate to play games from outside your region and other homebrew. Mod chips aren't the devil.

[daroga]

What the fuck is this crap about selling R4DS' being illegal? You can also write your own code and run it on the DS without paying ridiculous fees to nintendo. At GDC I think they even had some people who had done that in some indie area. With the swap discs and other mod chips you can also play games from outside your region. This is clearly not a cut and dry evil issue, please do not give in to strongly-worded internet statements that say otherwise. If you get a C&D, fold. But not for angry forum trolls. I'm not saying warez games, or download omg romz, but it is perfectly legitimate to play games from outside your region and other homebrew. Mod chips aren't the devil.They certainly can be used for good. But CAG has rules that we can't sell anything that could be used for piracy. Yet this joker of an affiliate sells that kinda stuff. It's a pretty harsh and obvious contradiction to the ToS on CAG.

[zakk]

They certainly can be used for good. But CAG has rules that we can't sell anything that could be used for piracy. Yet this joker of an affiliate sells that kinda stuff. It's a pretty harsh and obvious contradiction to the ToS on CAG.

Well it is cheapy's site, if he wants to play import games from the US on his .jp wii, and has no problem with that then there is a simple solution, he can change the ToS.

[daroga]

Well it is cheapy's site, if he wants to play import games from the US on his .jp wii, and has no problem with that then there is a simple solution, he can change the ToS.Of course he can, but he hasn't, and that's exactly the problem. Either the ToS for the site need to change or this affiliate has to go. Based on the owner's conduct on these boards, I'd vote for the latter.

[zakk]

Of course he can, but he hasn't, and that's exactly the problem. Either the ToS for the site need to change or this affiliate has to go. Based on the owner's conduct on these boards, I'd vote for the latter.

I admit I haven't seen this guy's actions. In any case, I hope Cheapy's morals don't bend with whatever way the wind blows, regardless of it offending me or any of the other users. I'm sure anyone could rip into me because I mostly lurk and listen, but I'm just disappointed that it ruins the show, and the site when people keep giving the hosts shit every week.

[SpacePenguinBot]

I like the long shows. I listen at work to pass the time, so the longer the show is, the faster the time goes by.

I don't really know the difference between the DS mod carts, but I want to get something to let me do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYDF313Ae7A (<-DS MIDI WiFi)

[Blaine]

What the fuck is this crap about selling R4DS' being illegal? You can also write your own code and run it on the DS without paying ridiculous fees to nintendo... but it is perfectly legitimate to play games from outside your region and other homebrew. Mod chips aren't the devil.

Not to beat the same drum, but the R4DS is almost identical to a product they sell at Wal-Mart, Target and who knows where else.

Really hard to call it illegal.

[daroga]

Not to beat the same drum, but the R4DS is almost identical to a product they sell at Wal-Mart, Target and who knows where else.

Really hard to call it illegal.No one called it illegal.

EDIT: Cheapy, thanks for closing that deals thread. I look forward to an update on this insanity on the next CAGCast. :)

[yukine]

Hell yes, Cheapy. I'd love to see a new Tribes, or even a remake of the first game.

[thakingrocka]

i don't know if that middle symbol is supposed to be accented in naruto and it's definitely not accented in tanuki. bring a list of game-related words to your teacher, cheapy, and see how long before the teacher rolls his/her eyes at the limited realm of japanese you're interested in.

i tried to check out that goozex site, but i typed in goosex because when you guys say it, it sounds like an s. i was thinking goose x. i'm not sure how i didn't realize it was goo sex.

those 5 dollar games are 5 bucks because they have so little added. double dragon had a filter and online co-op. tmnt had online co-op. this can't be that hard to do considering i found kaillera to be so incredibly reliable when i used it in 2004. PoP has a complete graphical and control system overhaul.

irredeemable ant-man? irredeemable indeed.

alright, so i checked out the foreplay podcast. there's a problem. while people used to make the joke about someone having a face for radio, i feel that wombat and the shipwrecks have voices for photos, so i sure hope they're pretty. congratulations, cheapy! your voice is like butter and it's the only reason i can listen to the podcast. while the info is always interesting, i couldn't listen to wombat alone and i'll have to skip out on the shipwrecks. sorry, guys.

[chrisswiss83]

You didn't need the fire extinguisher in Code Veronica, silly Cheapy. If you wanted to snag the Magnum, you needed it to put out the fire, but otherwise you could continue on with the game just fine. I know this for a fact, because I screwed myself on having it later in the game as well (I left it in the security check box), and had no problem beating the game.
Quoting for emphasis. Cheapy, the extinguisher was optional! I hope you still have your DreamCast and save file! If not, oh well, the end of the game isn't all that.

[Whacks]

I've been listening to the cagcast for couple of months and finally had to reply on the whole emulations question. I remembered reading a while back on slashdot about a rulling by the copyright office about emulating game. I found the link to if anyone would like to read it.

Short Answer
http://www.copyright.gov/1201/index.html

Full Copy
http://www.copyright.gov/1201/docs/1201_recommendation.pdf

It's very simple to read and I've come to these conclusions.

Emulation is legal of games where the equipment that runs it is no longer available. This includes SNES,Genesis....and so on. But since Sony is still making the Playstation 1 you can't emulate those games. I know that there DS devices that lets you load ds games and thats not allowed either.

Even though nintendo has the rights to their characters, (Mario, Donkey Kong....) You can legally play the ROMs as long as you don't profit off thier copyright of there character. So, you can sell hardware that emulates but you can't sell the ROMs. This is what peeves me about the Wii Virtual console, when you "buy" those games they're not selling you the game/ROM they are selling you emulator. This doesn't seem to be the case with most Xbox live arcade titles, as they buy the rights to games, port it /reprogram it over (XBLA) and make changes. (Street fighter/ninja turtles multiplayer)

So for all you Old School gamers out there, download an emulator and get to gaming and don't buy the Wii titles unless Nintendo is willing to give you something more then what you can get for FREE!!!

[Maddgief]

Great great great podcast. Nothing but great interactions between the two featured players. Wonderful.

Question for both: Do you ever feel like you're too into gaming? Do you ever feel like you should take a break and walk away from the hobby for a while?

Periodically, I feel like I should cease gaming for a while and invest my time elsewhere. It's different for you guys, obviously because of the show, but what about pre-cagcast?

MADDGIEF (pronounced like Madd chief, only with a G and no h!)

[DiceMan]

Hey guys, just wanted to comment on the live shows. I think they are great, and when a live show is done properly I think it will be even better than the CAGcast is now.

It would be nice if you had a call screener, like you would have if it was live on-the-air radio. That might help make sure the calls you take were at least on topic with the current discussion.

Also, a request. Could you remind us during the live show what day you are actually recording it? I would love to sit in on the chat during the live show - it really makes it more interactive and fun for the listener. I just haven't been able to catch it because I don't dwell in the forums or anything, and you never mention it during the show.

Thanks, keep up the good work.

P.S. More comics talk from Wombat please.

[yukine]

Hey guys, just wanted to comment on the live shows. I think they are great, and when a live show is done properly I think it will be even better than the CAGcast is now.

It would be nice if you had a call screener, like you would have if it was live on-the-air radio. That might help make sure the calls you take were at least on topic with the current discussion.

Also, a request. Could you remind us during the live show what day you are actually recording it? I would love to sit in on the chat during the live show - it really makes it more interactive and fun for the listener. I just haven't been able to catch it because I don't dwell in the forums or anything, and you never mention it during the show.

Thanks, keep up the good work.

P.S. More comics talk from Wombat please.

He mentions it on the CAGcast, and he did for this show. It'll be live on Wednesday at 8 PM EST.

[lanzarlaluna]

Not sure if this has been answered yet, but Resident Evil Outbreak is still online. Resident Evil Outbreak File #2, the sequel, is no longer online.

[terpkristin]

Well, I finally got around to listening to CAGCast 79 today, it's been such a nutso time at work.

I wanted to chime in on the live show thing. I enjoy the live shows tremendously, and I am glad it sounds like you'll be doing more of them. In general, I agree that the live callers seem to be wonking it out a little bit, mostly I think because of the technical glitches they bring, they throw the cadence off.

I think if Cheapy and Wombat paid a little more attention to the chat room as they're recording (I can't say how much they're paying attention, though I know they've commented on things that people have said as it goes on..), they could keep the spontinaeity going without the interruption of the technical mess. The people in the chat room will probably let them know if they miss something, or if there's a tangent to that point, and they can comment on it then, too...

I'm sure that doesn't make sense, but all in all, I love the live shows, and the live callers don't seem to add much, so....yeah. OK, work has totally fried my brain, I'm sure I'm incoherent.

/tk

[DiceMan]

He mentions it on the CAGcast, and he did for this show. It'll be live on Wednesday at 8 PM EST.

Oh, well I guess I didn't notice it. I usually listen to it while I work, so sometimes I miss a bit if I'm concentrating or someone comes by or something.

thanks

[mrx1]

Freeloader sold at PlayAsia.
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-28-49-en-70-1ssg.html
"FreeLoader uses proprietary technology to enable your GameCube™ to play import games from any other region. Using FreeLoader you can now, for example, easily play U.S. games on a European GameCube™ console, or play Japanese games on a U.S. console."-PlayAsia product description.

A Wii version of the freeloader is in the works
http://kotaku.com/gaming/wii/wii-freeloader-on-the-way-222054.php
Werent you looking for some type of device that would allow you to play America region Wii games on your Japanese regioned Wii?Mmmmm...?

[yukine]

Wii Freeloader, nice! Then I'll be able to import and play Eyeshield 21 for the Wii.