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Friend of Sonic
06-19-2007, 01:12 PM
I bought a Suikoden lot-- 1-4-- for 140 shipped. They never shipped and Paypal was only able to recover 38 dollars. Am I Shaq-FUed? Or is there something else I can do? How often does Paypal not recover funds fully?
Negative
06-19-2007, 01:20 PM
I think you're fucked
What he said.
Friend of Sonic
06-19-2007, 01:25 PM
Well, someone post a picture of a kitten to cheer me up
http://everyschool.org/u/hillbrook/paris/puppy.jpg
Friend of Sonic
06-19-2007, 01:31 PM
I said a kitten you monster.
http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/02/080206-cosplay.jpg
Friend of Sonic
06-19-2007, 01:37 PM
http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/02/080206-cosplay.jpg
You bastard
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137623
Friend of Sonic
06-19-2007, 01:51 PM
Connected?
Roufuss
06-19-2007, 01:51 PM
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137623
Ok?
That has nothing to do with this topic.
Conspiracy stories are always fun though!
PR Mega X
06-19-2007, 02:03 PM
http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/02/080206-cosplay.jpg
When did Ganon have access to Zelda's wardrobe?
shieryda
06-19-2007, 02:19 PM
How were you only able to get back $38? Was the shipment sent with delivery confirmation or insurance?
Roufuss
06-19-2007, 02:29 PM
How were you only able to get back $38? Was the shipment sent with delivery confirmation or insurance?
Dude probably unlinked all his cards and only had $38 in his Paypal balance.
IIRC, Paypal isn't allowed to go after bank accounts anymore to get back money.
unforeseen
06-19-2007, 02:51 PM
If you paid by credit card through PayPal, call your CC company and request a chargeback. I never pay for anything on eBay with my PayPal funds or checking/savings account -- only credit card.
If you paid by credit card through PayPal, call your CC company and request a chargeback. I never pay for anything on eBay with my PayPal funds or checking/savings account -- only credit card.
That's what I was going to suggest.
If you paid with existing funds from your PayPal account, I believe you are SOL unless the guy actually puts the money back into his account someday.
shieryda
06-19-2007, 03:28 PM
That's what I was going to suggest.
If you paid with existing funds from your PayPal account, I believe you are SOL unless the guy actually puts the money back into his account someday.
But by then, wouldn't Paypal have already closed the case?
I love how Paypal has both Buyer and Seller Protection plans, but in reality it is just a resolution service. IIRC when you read their protection policies it sounds like you are covered, insurance/warranty in a sense from Paypal. But in it seems like Paypal never compensates if there is an issue or if funds cannot be recovered.
Friend of Sonic
06-19-2007, 03:59 PM
Yeah, this has me angry. I paid through Paypal balance, so I probably am screwed.
There's NOTHING I can do?
What did Paypal say, that they could only recover $38? Did the transaction qualify for Buyer Protection?
integralsmatic
06-19-2007, 04:40 PM
cant you one of those call the police things and sick a claims lawyer on him?
Friend of Sonic
06-19-2007, 05:32 PM
What did Paypal say, that they could only recover $38? Did the transaction qualify for Buyer Protection?
Yeah, they said they'd keep working to try to get the rest of my funds replaced. But the status is "case closed." Should I be concerned about that.
And as far as your second question goes, no idea. You'd think it would.
Yeah, they said they'd keep working to try to get the rest of my funds replaced. But the status is "case closed." Should I be concerned about that.
And as far as your second question goes, no idea. You'd think it would.
If it has case closed I doubt they will do much else. Check the auction page and it should say if it is covered under their Buyer Protection.
Friend of Sonic
06-19-2007, 06:48 PM
If it has case closed I doubt they will do much else. Check the auction page and it should say if it is covered under their Buyer Protection.
OMG. According to their terms, I'm not eligible because the guy only had 34 feedback. You need the seller to have 50. So I'm definitely emailing them... but if I'm screwed I'm going to be pissed.
EDIT: Called 'em. The guy was really nice, and even struck up a conversation about Suikoden. He said he issued a claim request for the buyer protection and if that doesn't work, he's just gonna issue me a courtesy credit.
OMG. According to their terms, I'm not eligible because the guy only had 34 feedback. You need the seller to have 50. So I'm definitely emailing them... but if I'm screwed I'm going to be pissed.
EDIT: Called 'em. The guy was really nice, and even struck up a conversation about Suikoden. He said he issued a claim request for the buyer protection and if that doesn't work, he's just gonna issue me a courtesy credit.
Cool. Hope it works out for you.
Nice.
You could contact the BBB to file a complaint against PayPal, but I don't know how well that would work. Hopefully the guy you spoke with is true to his word.
You could also contact the police or file fraud charges directly against the seller. Check the trading FAQ for details on that. I wouldn't count on that to get any money back, but it might cause some pain for the seller.
Inf^Shini
06-20-2007, 12:27 PM
When did Ganon have access to Zelda's wardrobe?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
The more I stare at her, the more she looks like ganon o_O
Nice.
You could contact the BBB to file a complaint against PayPal, but I don't know how well that would work. Hopefully the guy you spoke with is true to his word.
You could also contact the police or file fraud charges directly against the seller. Check the trading FAQ for details on that. I wouldn't count on that to get any money back, but it might cause some pain for the seller.
It is nice to hear someone from paypal is helping him out.
I wonder how many complaints BBB has against Paypal, because they are just ridiculous. Paypal has so many loopholes and fradulent activity can easily take place.
daminion
06-20-2007, 12:27 PM
OMG. According to their terms, I'm not eligible because the guy only had 34 feedback. You need the seller to have 50.
Can you quote a source on this. I've NEVER seen this policy and I've been selling on Ebay since '97
Friend of Sonic
06-26-2007, 02:05 PM
They gave me the fucking refund. After I had to call them the third time after they told me two times before they would do it (without it ever actually showing up). I'm amazed they actually did it for me.
InvaderZim
06-26-2007, 02:14 PM
I love how Paypal has both Buyer and Seller Protection plans, but in reality it is just a resolution service. IIRC when you read their protection policies it sounds like you are covered, insurance/warranty in a sense from Paypal. But in it seems like Paypal never compensates if there is an issue or if funds cannot be recovered.
agree...
Vinny
06-26-2007, 02:25 PM
OMG. According to their terms, I'm not eligible because the guy only had 34 feedback. You need the seller to have 50. So I'm definitely emailing them... but if I'm screwed I'm going to be pissed.
EDIT: Called 'em. The guy was really nice, and even struck up a conversation about Suikoden. He said he issued a claim request for the buyer protection and if that doesn't work, he's just gonna issue me a courtesy credit.
Wha-wha-what!?!?!?:-O
PayPal has always had asshole CRs, this is rare. Hope things work out for you.
Friend of Sonic
06-26-2007, 02:30 PM
Wha-wha-what!?!?!?:-O
PayPal has always had asshole CRs, this is rare. Hope things work out for you.
Yeah, the guy was a gamer, which was cool. However, I was never eligible-- he was wrong. You lose your eligibility if you pay for an Ebay item through Paypal itself instead of directly through Ebay. The guy had "mistakenly" put his email wrong on Ebay so that I couldn't pay him. I contacted Ebay support and they told me if the invoice referenced the Ebay item number, I'd still have the Paypal protection. He invoiced me through Paypal with the item number and I sent him the money. Which is wrong according to Paypal apparently. It's a nice scam the guy came up with. Hope he gets fucked over himself one day.
Anyway. I never got the refund from the first guy. The second person I spoke with only agreed to give me the refund since I was told from someone else I'd receive it-- when the second person fell through, I called a third time. I only got them to agree to a refund from all the hassle I went through. It was frustrating and I was on the phone for about an hour for all of the calls combined.
help1
06-26-2007, 02:49 PM
How rich is PayPal, they should seriously pay us by now. You can't even transfer funds to people anymore with out like 2 or 3 dollars being eaten up.
yukine
06-27-2007, 08:41 PM
At least you got your money back, just remember to never pay for things using your Paypal balance (unless you're paying a trustworthy CAG or something.) I usually transfer any money I have in my PayPal to my Checking Account ASAP.
Friend of Sonic
06-28-2007, 12:55 AM
Maybe I should start paying in CC payments. I've heard it before...
shhximxhiding
06-28-2007, 01:45 AM
Next time file a criminal report. You can go to ic3.gov to file any internet related crimes, and also if seller claimed to have shipped usps, you can file through them also, both would have made this transaction a federal felony, and usually seller would refund money to keep from bbeiong arrested. Also, did you get contact information from ebay, because that is also available.
Friend of Sonic
06-28-2007, 03:19 AM
Next time file a criminal report. You can go to ic3.gov to file any internet related crimes, and also if seller claimed to have shipped usps, you can file through them also, both would have made this transaction a federal felony, and usually seller would refund money to keep from bbeiong arrested. Also, did you get contact information from ebay, because that is also available.
I did get his contact info. All of it was fake and no address was ever provided.
I am very lucky to have gotten my money back, though. Now this schmuck is Paypal's problem. Best of luck to them busting this guy.
Inf^Shini
06-28-2007, 03:27 AM
There has always been one HUGE problem I've always seen with paypal aside from all the obvious loop holes and fradulent activity.
When your account hits negative due to fraud or a bs claim, it automatically becomes limited and you CANT ACCEPT PAYMENTS. You have to transfer funds from a bank account just to cover the negative amount. This has pissed me off on two occassions (both times I was duped/victim of fraud).
daroga
06-28-2007, 08:34 AM
You know, you'd think since eBay bought PayPal, that it wouldn't matter which website you went through to pay for something. So stupid.
Friend of Sonic
06-28-2007, 01:14 PM
You know, you'd think since eBay bought PayPal, that it wouldn't matter which website you went through to pay for something. So stupid.
You'd think. Especially with Ebay telling me I'd still be under Paypal protection if I did the invoice thing.
The scam is good, though. Hopefully this will be a lesson for all of those who might get plauged with "Oh, I mistyped my Paypal address." Tell 'em, "Fuck you, relist the item correctly if you want me to buy it."