Metroid Prime 3 - Do Mother Brains' Have PMS? - 9.5 From IGN!

[daroga]

The scan is over at GoNintendo: http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/1010.JPG

[dmaul1114]

The scan linked to earlier was of the whole review page, rather than just the score/title.

But that is legit, as that matches with the earlier one (though the earlier one was less zoomed in and clearer).

[Zen Davis]

True, not worth arguing over. But it's hard to imagine grandparents who love brain age wanting to play a shooter.

At any rate, the Metroid series has never been some huge, system selling game series.


For instance, MP1 was the 10th best selling GC game at 1.49 million, and MP2 didn't break 1 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Nintendo_GameCube

So it's hard to see MP3 having much potential at bringing in non-gamers or casual gamers even if it was massively hyped.

You'll be surprised what two small Japanese men holding a Wii-mote and speaking ENGRISH can do.

[KingBroly]

(Take this with a mountain of salt)

Supposedly the NP review mentions WC24 support for this game.

EDIT:
Found something. I have no idea what it means. But, it's in the last paragraph
http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=revolution&message.id=3950983

[Doomed]

Interesting. My mirror:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c305/dabob51/mp3review.png

[j.elles]

I think those numbers were for just the States.

Metroid Prime
Japan 0.12
America 1.92
Others 0.73
Total 2.77
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Japan0.07
America 0.82
Others 0.37
Total 1.26

http://vgchartz.com/

Because Metroid Prime 1 sold almost 3 million according to these numbers.

Don't immediatly trust wikipedia.

And I think Metroid Prime will sell very well. Look at Mario Party 8 being the best selling game in the series.

Same With Zelda TP with Cube and Wii sales stacked. It outpaced Windwaker back in like February. And a million or so of Windwakers sales came in year 2 or 3 when it dropped to $20.

[daroga]

Dang it, I'm so torn. I really want to nab Bioshock next week, but I want Prime 3 terribly bad as well, and I'll be hard-pressed to complete one in a timely fashion, let alone 2, with school starting up on the 28th.

[Zen Davis]

Dang it, I'm so torn. I really want to nab Bioshock next week, but I want Prime 3 terribly bad as well, and I'll be hard-pressed to complete one in a timely fashion, let alone 2, with school starting up on the 28th.

It's hard to argue against either.

[j.elles]

Pretty easy for me. I play Bioshock on my sweet laptop before class's at college with a pair of headphones and Prime 3 at home when i'm done for the day for a little after I complete my assignments.

[cdietschrun]

Do we have any idea what will be the best deal to buy this game? I'm hoping for $40 from somewhere...

[Strell]

RE: WC24

That paragraph is saying this:

"Ignore the hubbub about lack of multiplayer, because who cares? We're getting a quality single player experience, which is what Metroid has always been about."

There's no multiplayer for this game. The sheer amount of hush-hush it would take to keep it under wraps a week before release would be astounding.

[Doomed]

The paragraph actually says this:
"There will be murmurs about the lack of multiplayer mode and a rather light implementation of WiiConnect24-ignore them. Metroid has always been about quality single-player adventuring. To that end, Corruption exemplifies the Metroid experience better than any game before it. Deeply enjoyable and satisfying, this is the title gamers have been waiting for."

And other places are saying it has something like achievements.
http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=revolution&message.id=3952192

[dmaul1114]

I think those numbers were for just the States.

Metroid Prime
Japan 0.12
America 1.92
Others 0.73
Total 2.77
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Japan0.07
America 0.82
Others 0.37
Total 1.26

http://vgchartz.com/

Because Metroid Prime 1 sold almost 3 million according to these numbers.

Don't immediatly trust wikipedia.

And I think Metroid Prime will sell very well. Look at Mario Party 8 being the best selling game in the series.

Same With Zelda TP with Cube and Wii sales stacked. It outpaced Windwaker back in like February. And a million or so of Windwakers sales came in year 2 or 3 when it dropped to $20.

I googled US numbers, as we were talking US marketing and potential sales impact I assumed (as we'd have no idea of level of marketing in other countries).

And I agree it will sell well. It's just not a huge system seller like Smash Bros which sold 6 million here etc.

[dmaul1114]

Dang it, I'm so torn. I really want to nab Bioshock next week, but I want Prime 3 terribly bad as well, and I'll be hard-pressed to complete one in a timely fashion, let alone 2, with school starting up on the 28th.

For what it's worth, if I had a 360 I'd go for Bioshock first. MP3 looks great, but I'm more interest in Bioshock as it just looks amazing both graphically and from a game design, atmosphere, story etc. perspective. And its something new, rather than a sequel.

But both are absolute must plays for fans of the genres, and both are single player games (so you don't have to worry about falling behind in online skills) so it really doesn't matter which to play first.

[KingBroly]

From what I've gathered, if anything is to be believed, here is how it goes:

- Prime 3 has achievements, but are called "Awards"
- You get 1 of 4 colored tokens (Gold was mentioned) for doing certain things and picking them up (that might be my own take on it)
- You can then show off your tokens from the game to a friend via WiiConnect 24.
- You configure WC24 settings for the game in the game's options menu

My Gamestop has a demo of Prime 3. I didn't check it, but I'll do so tomorrow.

[wjhard63]

Thanks to those who posted the NP review earlier - I was able to read Doomed's attachment of it without any problem.

I cannot wait for this game to come out - I hope I'm not overhyping this in my head, but if this game is as good as the first Prime (the second was great, just not quite as excellent as the first), then my faith in Nintendo still bringing games to Wii for the mainstream (Zelda: TP excluded for the port arguments) will not have been misplaced.

I am seriously more excited for this game than any other this fall, including Smash Bros, Mario Galaxy, Fire Emblem: GoD, and Halo 3. The 28th cannot come soon enough!

[dmaul1114]

Got my preorder in today. Traded in SPM with extra $10 coupon.

Can't wait untll the 28th!

[Zen Davis]

Thanks to those who posted the NP review earlier - I was able to read Doomed's attachment of it without any problem.

I cannot wait for this game to come out - I hope I'm not overhyping this in my head, but if this game is as good as the first Prime (the second was great, just not quite as excellent as the first), then my faith in Nintendo still bringing games to Wii for the mainstream (Zelda: TP excluded for the port arguments) will not have been misplaced.

I am seriously more excited for this game than any other this fall, including Smash Bros, Mario Galaxy, Fire Emblem: GoD, and Halo 3. The 28th cannot come soon enough!

The prospect of new bounty hunters has me extremely excited for this game. I just hope they all just aren't killed off.

[wjhard63]

The prospect of new bounty hunters has me extremely excited for this game. I just hope they all just aren't killed off.

Yeah - With the bounty hunters from prime hunters and the new ones from MP3, they're expanding the possibility for offshoots, but since this is the end of the Prime trilogy, they could close the book on the story & characters altogether.

On another note, I really hope the Wii Connect 24 functionality doesn't require 'Standby' - only that you have it WC 24 on. I'd like to post my achievements/goals, but I really don't want to leave it warmer than it usually is.

I found out my local game store I ordered this from won't have it in until the 29th! :( I guess it's worth the 10% savings though...

[Zen Davis]

Yeah - With the bounty hunters from prime hunters and the new ones from MP3, they're expanding the possibility for offshoots, but since this is the end of the Prime trilogy, they could close the book on the story & characters altogether.

I have a feeling the other bounty hunters will become corrupted and you'll have to kill them as bosses. A couple of them looked really neat and I think it would give Retro a lot of credit if they actually tried to develop characters in the metroid universe that weren't named 'Samus Aran'. The potential to expand the universe is there and that's honestly the most important thing for me with Corruption.

[Tybee]

I have a feeling the other bounty hunters will become corrupted and you'll have to kill them as bosses. A couple of them looked really neat and I think it would give Retro a lot of credit if they actually tried to develop characters in the metroid universe that weren't named 'Samus Aran'. The potential to expand the universe is there and that's honestly the most important thing for me with Corruption.

I love that moment in the trailer when the voiceover says, "To date, no marines have shown adverse effects from phazon," and you see that marine have the shakes a bit and then kind of pause and flex his arm as if to say, "Hmmm...that was weird," and then move on as if nothing happened. Very ominous and cool, even though it's a note-for-note copy of that scene in "The Abyss" where they're describing the symptoms of pressure sickness and the marine played by Michael Biehn notices his hand shaking and quickly hides it.

[dothog]

it's a note-for-note copy of that scene in "The Abyss" where they're describing the symptoms of pressure sickness and the marine played by Michael Biehn notices his hand shaking and quickly hides it.
Nice catch on that. It's one thing to say "it looks familiar," but it's another to pinpoint it. Haven't seen that in a while, either, so it's hitting the netflix.

[dmaul1114]

Yeah - With the bounty hunters from prime hunters and the new ones from MP3, they're expanding the possibility for offshoots, but since this is the end of the Prime trilogy, they could close the book on the story & characters altogether.


IMO, the design of the bounty hunters in the DS games was pretty uninspired, and what I've seen of the new ones for Prime 3 they are looking pretty bland as well.

I don't think I'd be very interested in a spinoff. They'd be well suited if they wanted to do a Wii deathmatch game in the vein of Hunters though I guess, though I'd skip that as well as I don't like deathmatch games and hated Hunters.

[Zen Davis]

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/801/801172/metroid-prime-3-corruption-20070702063400843.jpg (http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748547/image_frame.html?image_id=24&screenshot_id=4673199)
(http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748547/img_4673198.html)

[dmaul1114]

Like I said, lame (IMHO).

[Strell]

You're named after Darth Maul. You forfeit any legitimate complaint about character design.

:p

[j.elles]

I think the designs are alright. For me it's about the voice acting and charecter history.

That chick there I think is a friend of Samus's according to some sites so i'm really curious about the rivalry, friendships, and other story stuff thats going to be in the game related to these new hunters.

Plus all the talk about saving space marines as being optional has me interested. This game seems to be taking the open world nature of Metroid and raising it up even further. I'm really looking forward to this game.

I'll probably give Super Metroid a second chance after I beat this game. I don't have the time and didnt like the game to much back when I was a kid. I am curious though with all the praise people heaped on the game. That and I didnt like Metroid Prime 1 when I played it originally for about an hour and then went back because of praise and it's now my favorite console game of last gen. So I WILL play it eventually for all you Super Metroid fans.

[dmaul1114]

Super Metroid is still my all time favorite game. Definitely give it another go.

[A Happy Panda]

Super Metroid is still my all time favorite game. Definitely give it another go.

I might buy it today on the VC and borrow my cousin's Classic controller. I've actually never beat this game, and the first and last time I played it was on my PSP. I never played it on the SNES because my cousins and my brother and I would play games together all the time so we would never buy the same game if the other house had it. My cousins are the ones who got Metroid, and I just never got a chance to play it when I was like 9.

[Zen Davis]

IMO, the design of the bounty hunters in the DS games was pretty uninspired, and what I've seen of the new ones for Prime 3 they are looking pretty bland as well.

I don't think I'd be very interested in a spinoff. They'd be well suited if they wanted to do a Wii deathmatch game in the vein of Hunters though I guess, though I'd skip that as well as I don't like deathmatch games and hated Hunters.

You can't say that without getting to know the characters.

[dmaul1114]

You can't say that without getting to know the characters.

Appearance is a big part of it, regardless of story.

At any rate, I really just have no interest in playing as anyone but Samus when playing a Metroid game.

[Zen Davis]

Appearance is a big part of it, regardless of story.

At any rate, I really just have no interest in playing as anyone but Samus when playing a Metroid game.
That's just silly. You don't know what these characters are about or what happens to them and yet you're dismissing the Corruption universe and everyone who isn't Samus. It's like you don't like the game before you've even played it.

[dmaul1114]

That's just silly. You don't know what these characters are about or what happens to them and yet you're dismissing the Corruption universe and everyone who isn't Samus. It's like you don't like the game before you've even played it.

I don't like a lot of story in my shooters, and like that Metroid has always been thin on plot. I get tired of cut scenes, useless dialog etc. pretty quick in most games.

And again, I've played Metroid games for around 20 years, and I play them to play as Samus and kill Metroids and space pirates.

So I don't have much interest in seeing it expand the story and branch out into different playable characters in the future. Could it be good? Sure. Will I be looking forward to it in advance? No. Will I keep a semi-open mind and possibly be pleasantly surpised? Most definitely. I'm just not going to tremble in anticipation of any potential spinoffs.

[Zen Davis]

I don't like a lot of story in my shooters, and like that Metroid has always been thin on plot. I get tired of cut scenes, useless dialog etc. pretty quick in most games.

And again, I've played Metroid games for around 20 years, and I play them to play as Samus and kill Metroids and space pirates.

So I don't have much interest in seeing it expand the story and branch out into different playable characters in the future. Could it be good? Sure. Will I be looking forward to it in advance? No. Will I keep a semi-open mind and possibly be pleasantly surpised? Most definitely. I'm just not going to tremble in anticipation of any potential spinoffs.

It sounds like your mind is completely closed off.

[dmaul1114]

It sounds like your mind is completely closed off.

Not at all. Everyone goes into everything with a preconceived opinion of some kind. And this is especially true for me with games as I don't have a lot of free time and game are near the bottom of my hobby priority list these days so I try to only buy/play games I'm pretty sure I'll love.

Spinoffs with other hunters doesn't sound very appealing to me for a variety of reasons--hated hunters on the DS, not totally sold on the Prime series in general as I liked, not loved, the first and didn't care for the second much at all, etc.

But barring myself absolutely hating MP3, I'd give any spinoff a look--at least read reviews and probably give it a rental just because-- Hunters and MP2-- aside I've always loved the Metroid series.

That said, if I love MP3, I'd just prefer another sequel starring Samus as I'm attached to the character.

Not to mention I'd rather seen Nintendo create some totally new shooter franchise rather than make a Metroid Spinoff. They really needs some new IPs. I can't think of a single franchise they've introduced since the SNES days that I've thought was mind blowingly great. I mean I love Mario, Metroid, Zelda etc. etc., but the first party library could really use some new blood--and I'd prefer it be totally new rather than just new characters within an existing franchise.

[KingBroly]

Okay, the 2 new videos are up.

And, yes, a new confirmation. There are INDEED Metroids in this game. Can you believe it?

[A Happy Panda]

Wow. I watched a good chunk of the first boss fight. It actually just sold me on the game. Plus the controls seem to make it feel more like a FPS, which I appreciate.

Having played the two previous Primes and wholly disliking them, I'm actually very excited for MP3. Once I get back home from the gym I'll watch some more of the gameplay vids, hopefully they will peak my interest even more.

[j.elles]

I actually loved Metroid games for the story. The prime games subtle way of telling the story through the scans of log's from the space pirates and dead soldiers as well as where and what the enemy's you're fighting are doing I thought was something a lot of other companies, like ID and Epic, could learn from.

I mean I liked Doom 3, Gears of War, and Unreal but come on they should take some lessons from Metroid Prime 1 and 2 with the story. Those games had pathetic stories compared to Metroid Prime 1 and 2.

[dmaul1114]

I liked that about the Prime games as well, as you could just avoid scanning and not read all that crap if you didn't care.

[Mr Durand Pierre]

I hope I'm not behind the times on this, but EB/GS has a playable demo of Prime 3 up. I played it for over an hour (the store was mostly empty besides the girl working there) last night, and here are my impressions:

Before I begin I should mention that I thought Metroid Prime was one of the finest games of the last few years and I thought Prime 2 was even better. So I had awful high expectations going into Prime 3. So here goes...

The first thing that hits you is obviously the controls. And to be perfectly honest, I didn't like them as much as I was hoping to and felt like they may be a step back for the series. Previously, you could lock onto an enemy then just hammer the A button and shoot right at them, but now you have to lock on AND keep track of your aiming reticle (which was easy to lose track of in my opinion). So aiming is now harder as you have to multi-task, however it is very rewarding when a nice big charge shot hits an enemy point blank. I also thought that aiming with the wiimote is a bit hard because it's easy to go offscreen (or off sensor) and then you'll have to get yourself reset. By the end of the demo I found the controls to be a bit better, perhaps they just have a steeper learning curve than I had expected, but I don't think I could quite call them an advancement. More just different, but equal at best.

The other thing that you notice is that this is the first Metroid game to have NPCs and voice acting. You start out on a Federation ship and you can talk to people with uniforms that wouldn't look out of place at a Star Trek convention. Personally, I felt like this was an awful decision. One of the most endearing aspects of the Metroid franchise is its total sense of haunting isolation where you are a lone human on a hostile alien world. By bringing in other characters it feels a lot more generic, made doubly so by the uninspired design and dialogue of these talking characters. Hopefully this is only prevalent in the early parts of the game, but it's a big step in the wrong direction in my opinion.

I found the early game environments to be both bland and way too dark. It's easy to get lost running around. (luckily the map is still excellent.) Screenshots I've seen from later in the game indicate that the environments will become more creative later, but I didn't think it was a good intro.

But all nitpicking aside, did I think it was a fun game? The answer: hell yeah! Metroid is still Metroid and it's a tough thing to ruin. The two boss fights I played were excellent, the pacing was real fast (after the horrid talky intro), and the combat is still a lot of fun. I don't know how I feel about traveling to different world, but that's something that I'll only be able to determine upon playing the full version.

Ultimately, while I felt this was a step in the wrong direction and subpar for a Metroid game it still felt like a good game in its' own right. Think of it as being the Mario Sunshine of Metroid games. Now Mario Sunshine wasn't a bad game by any means; it just wasn't as good as Mario 64 from a few years before. I would have given Metroid Prime 1 & 2 a 9.5/10 and based on the demo Prime 3 seemed to be right around the 8.5/10 range. I'm still going to continue with my pre-order and still think it will be a lot of fun, but those were my initial impressions anyway. But maybe it's good that my expectations have been lowered a bit, so the full version will have a higher chance of exceeding them.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

I wonder if the MP demo you played was set to Advanced controls or the normal controls. I was under the impression that the lock-on function of the regular controls functioned as it did in the past MP games. I could be wrong about that though.

[A Happy Panda]

I wonder if the MP demo you played was set to Advanced controls or the normal controls. I was under the impression that the lock-on function of the regular controls functioned as it did in the past MP games. I could be wrong about that though.

Default setting is the one that lets you lock-on, but you have to specifically aim.

The other one is like the original Prime games (which sucks IMHO) where you lock-on and you just hammer the trigger button.

[Tybee]

Thanks for the impressions! I do think you may be in the minority loving MP2. It's a good game, but I think most people agreed that THAT was a step backward, so if MP3 addresses the faults of that title, it can only be a good thing, IMO.

Also, I'm kind of stoked for the NPCs, voicework, and real time events, all relatively new to the Metroid frachise, and frankly, almost completely absent in Nintendo games as a whole. Atmospheric loneliness is nice, but it kind of became a little unrealistic that Samus was the only non-Space Pirate humanoid character we ever saw.

[CombatCraig]

I'm hesitant

My first real experience with the Metroid series (actually buying and playing) has been Prime which I bought when I first got my Wii. I really enjoy it (amazed at how tough it can be - or I just suck which is more likely). I haven't played MP2 at all.

I really want to pick up MP3 because of all of the acclaim for being a great FPS. But I don't know if I should pick it up just for that (on release day at least, I'm sure I'll get it eventually).

So I've got a $50 gift card to Wally world. Anyone want to convince me to use it on MP3 or wait and use it something else?

[Zen Davis]

I'm hesitant

My first real experience with the Metroid series (actually buying and playing) has been Prime which I bought when I first got my Wii. I really enjoy it (amazed at how tough it can be - or I just suck which is more likely). I haven't played MP2 at all.

I really want to pick up MP3 because of all of the acclaim for being a great FPS. But I don't know if I should pick it up just for that (on release day at least, I'm sure I'll get it eventually).

So I've got a $50 gift card to Wally world. Anyone want to convince me to use it on MP3 or wait and use it something else?

The first hour of gameplay is like on page 24. Decide for yourself.

[lanzarlaluna]

Anyone want to convince me to use it on MP3 or wait and use it something else?Don't buy it. If you can't make an informed decision for yourself, you don't deserve to play it.

[A Happy Panda]

Don't buy it. If you can't make an informed decision for yourself, you don't deserve to play it.

Way to be a dick?

The guy asks for help on making a buying decision and you're a complete asshole to him.

You could've easily just said "Read some previews, watch some videos" etc. Seriously people.

Read some previews and watch some videos is what I'm going to suggest. Or hell, wait for the reviews to come in then decide if the game is for you.

"You don't deserve to play it" Lawlerz and a half.

[CombatCraig]

Way to be a dick?

The guy asks for help on making a buying decision and you're a complete asshole to him.

You could've easily just said "Read some previews, watch some videos" etc. Seriously people.

Read some previews and watch some videos is what I'm going to suggest. Or hell, wait for the reviews to come in then decide if the game is for you.

"You don't deserve to play it" Lawlerz and a half.

Thanks I was just about to say the same.

I'm sorry for coming to a video message discussion board to partake in a discussion. I had planned to read all the reviews, watch videos, etc. as a given (unfortunately I've been very busy getting a new job). I guess what I was really asking was if there was anything major that stands out in this game that would mean I should get it right away, etc. or wait and get something like SSBB first.

Basically looking for opinions since I haven't had time to watch and read everything yet.

[Zen Davis]

Thanks I was just about to say the same.

I'm sorry for coming to a video message discussion board to partake in a discussion. I had planned to read all the reviews, watch videos, etc. as a given (unfortunately I've been very busy getting a new job). I guess what I was really asking was if there was anything major that stands out in this game that would mean I should get it right away, etc. or wait and get something like SSBB first.

http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142432&page=24

You really have to decide for yourself since hardly anyone has had a chance to play the game and all the reviewers are under embargo. I personally think the game will be quite good.

[A Happy Panda]

http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142432&page=24

You really have to decide for yourself since hardly anyone has had a chance to play the game and all the reviewers are under embargo. I personally think the game will be quite good.

I watched 1 video and I was sold. And I HATE the Prime series. Auto-aim FTL.

[Zen Davis]

I watched 1 video and I was sold. And I HATE the Prime series. Auto-aim FTL.

I think for a lot of people, this will be a revolution in fps gameplay and they'll find it hard to go back to a dual stick configuration. Maybe not everyone, but a lot of people are going to be happy with it. Just my two cents.

[Mr Durand Pierre]

Default setting is the one that lets you lock-on, but you have to specifically aim.

The other one is like the original Prime games (which sucks IMHO) where you lock-on and you just hammer the trigger button.

Ahah. I didn't go into the controls options in the demo. I meant to, but then forgot. Plus I wanted to try out the default setting before making any alterations.

I think I'd like the old-fashioned lock-on more. But that might just be based on my experience with the previous two games. Like I kept forgetting for a split second that I ALSO had to aim. The different options will be nice to mess around with though.

[j.elles]

Metroid Prime 3 is going to be a fundementally different experience because of the fact it controls more like a shooter and according to all people who have played it for many hours the game is designed with that in mind.

It's still going to be Prime but it's more streamlined and less wander around and figure out where you need to go on you're own like Metroid Prime 1 and 2 were. This is especially due to the fact that theres now multiple planets and the game envirinment is 10X bigger them the first two games, maybe combined. Combine this with what we know about the hunters who aid and probably hinder you, the bombing runs with you're ship, piloting and other ship mechanic's you now get to play with, having soldiers you can help or ignore, etc.... and this game is a lot more then just Metroid Prime 1 and 2 remixed. Overall I think people who didnt like the first 2 games should definelty play this because of that.

That and Mother Brain is going to be in it. Thats should be enough right there.

[-Never4ever-]

Damn, thsi is coming in one weeks time and I still haven't put MP2 through it's paces. Guess I'll be playing through MP3 first and then going back to MP2. I wonder how that's going to fare?

[j.elles]

I noticed a lot of people didnt play Prime 2. The game was unfairly judged by many. It is a very solid game that people should play if they missed. Definetly not now since Prime 3 is coming so soon.

But the boss fights, fairly high difficulty, immersive level design and graphical touches, and the way the light and dark planet interact is great. Overall the dark world isnt as hard as people make it out to be. It's only hard initially because you have to get used to taking damage in the areas where there isnt beacons or light. I personally love Metroid Prime for the level design and boss fights. Things all FPS games could learn from. Metroid Prime is my favorite console First Person game. (Im a PC gamer)

[Puzznic]

I think for a lot of people, this will be a revolution in fps gameplay and they'll find it hard to go back to a dual stick configuration. Maybe not everyone, but a lot of people are going to be happy with it. Just my two cents.

Yep. I would kill to be able to play Halo 3 with the Wii controller, and thats just from my Resident Evil 4 experience.

[Radioactive_Man]

I was able to take home the free copy Nintendo set us today at work. If anyone has any question's about the game I will try my best to answer then, just don't expect to get a quick response from me as I will be playing the game.

[Zen Davis]

I was able to take home the free copy Nintendo set us today at work. If anyone has any question's about the game I will try my best to answer then, just don't expect to get a quick response from me as I will be playing the game.

Is it good?

[Radioactive_Man]

Is it good?

I just got to the second save point. I also just picked up the missiles. So far I'd say it's pretty good.

This game really makes me hate Nintendo for not doing full hd. It looks good so far but you know that it could have looked fuking amazing if it was in 720p or on the 360.

The control scheme get's some time to get use to. You could play without using lock-on if you like. I just don't like that you have to move samus arm all the way to the left or right for her to turn, like they did in Red Steel. I'd rather have her arm centered at all times like in Halo. Although I have a feeling it will grow on me, since the wiimote seems capable of handling it.

[lanzarlaluna]

I just don't like that you have to move samus arm all the way to the left or right for her to turn, like they did in Red Steel. I'd rather have her arm centered at all times like in Halo. Although I have a feeling it will grow on me, since the wiimote seems capable of handling it.Isn't there an advanced control scheme that really limits the distance to the point where she begins to turn.

[Radioactive_Man]

Isn't there an advanced control scheme that really limits the distance to the point where she begins to turn.

Not that I know of. All they have are 3 different sensitivity settings.

Basic - slow moving lock-on is off by default

Standard - medium moving lock-on is on by default

Advanced - fast moving lock-on is on by default

on a 1 to 10 scale with 1 being the slowest and 10 being the highest.

Basic - 1
Standard - 5
Advanced - 10

They really don't have anything between which sucks. Would have been better with a slider that would choose the sensitivity.

[Zen Davis]

A number of places mentioned that turning is a bit slow.

[A Happy Panda]

Why the hell would there only be 3 different speeds for turning? GG. Where's my slider deal that lets me choose exactly what difficulty.

[dmaul1114]

I noticed a lot of people didnt play Prime 2. The game was unfairly judged by many. It is a very solid game that people should play if they missed. Definetly not now since Prime 3 is coming so soon.

But the boss fights, fairly high difficulty, immersive level design and graphical touches, and the way the light and dark planet interact is great. Overall the dark world isnt as hard as people make it out to be. It's only hard initially because you have to get used to taking damage in the areas where there isnt beacons or light. I personally love Metroid Prime for the level design and boss fights. Things all FPS games could learn from. Metroid Prime is my favorite console First Person game. (Im a PC gamer)

Different strokes for different folks I guess. I put 16 hours into it before putting it on the shelf for good.

I hated most of the bosses, hated the high difficulty (little time for games, little patience for anything), and hated the dark world both because it nearly doubled the back tracking, and led you to spend to much time standing under lights slowly regaining health.

Probably my least favorite game in any of the main Nintendo series (not counting offshoot crap like Mario Party, Mario Sports games etc.).

But I'm looking forward to MP3 as from most accounts it's done away with the problems I had with MP2.

[j.elles]

So you're saying you don't like it because it's hard.
I actually didnt backtrack to much in Prime 1 or 2 at all, probably because I'm use to adventure games, so I do things in an area and don't have to go back usually. All in all I found there to be less backtracking in Prime 2.

I think that's the problem with Metroid Prime 1 and 2. Because it really doesnt tell you where to go very specifically you can miss things and be forced to go back and forth until you figure out what you need to do. It doesnt really hold you're hand. That and the boss fights from what i've heard were really difficult for some people. I personally loved that part of it. Meta Ridley is still the best boss fight ever IMO. Once you get the dark suit you don't take damage in the dark world. And 99% of the time theres a portal in the room or in a room next door that leads to the light or dark world. I think you might have gone off and used a portal that was to far away. I probably would have stopped playing if I did that too.

[dmaul1114]

Yeah, it was too hard for me as I hate difficult games, and I hated the dark world design with having to heal under the light, as well as doubling the area you had to explore/backtrack through.

I get that people like hard games, but they should just have variable difficulty so people can play it however they like. And from what I've read they did this with MP3, with a normal and hard setting available at the start.

That's the way to go as then gamers who like a stiff challenge can play on hard, and pussies like me that suck at games and have very little time to play can play on normal. :D

[Zen Davis]

Yeah, it was too hard for me as I hate difficult games, and I hated the dark world design with having to heal under the light, as well as doubling the area you had to explore/backtrack through.

I get that people like hard games, but they should just have variable difficulty so people can play it however they like. And from what I've read they did this with MP3, with a normal and hard setting available at the start.

That's the way to go as then gamers who like a stiff challenge can play on hard, and pussies like me that suck at games and have very little time to play can play on normal. :D

So you just don't like the hard part of hardcore caming?

[SteveDaWonder]

I've got this game paid for. I'm getting it regardless. It's going to be awesome. It's likely to be the best in the series. I am just curious on how it will stack up to Bioshock.

[maigoyume]

2 completely diff games, by 2 completely different companies, i say its gonna rock the Wii just like how bioshock is rocking the 360

[dmaul1114]

So you just don't like the hard part of hardcore caming?

I don't like any part of hardcore gaming. Very casual gamer. Don't like hard games, online gaming, multiplayer gaming in general etc.

Just like to waste a little time here or there on a game.

I used to be much more into games, but not nearly as much now due both to losing interest a bit and to having a lot less free time now that I'm pushing 30.

[Tybee]

I don't like any part of hardcore gaming. Very casual gamer. Don't like hard games, online gaming, multiplayer gaming in general etc.

Just like to waste a little time here or there on a game.

I used to be much more into games, but not nearly as much now due both to losing interest a bit and to having a lot less free time now that I'm pushing 30.

So get Wii Fit and STFU. ;)

[j.elles]

Same here a little. Im not to into online games because once you become the best it's very boring. I've played Elder Scrols 2 daggerfall. Counterstrike, Star Siege Tribes, Team Fortress, and Battlefield 1942. And I'm done with online shooters and certain other games unless it does something really new that's not just better graphics.

Part of the reason i'm very meh with huge parts of 360 and PS3's lineup. I'm more interested in Battalion Wars 2 for example because it will have a cool story of betrayal, murder, etc... like the first game in addition to online, unlike Warhawk.

[dmaul1114]

So get Wii Fit and STFU. ;)

I hate those type of games too. :D

I pretty much only like platformers, the ocassional JRPG, the occasional FPS, and Zelda style games. Oh and Guitar Hero. :D

I more or less like the same types of games I always have, just don't have the same level of interest or free time as I did when I was younger.

[BREVITY]

Reading 1up's impressions and IGNs I am really thinking this game will be great. Here is my fave quote from IGN.
Right off the bat, you're going to notice several major differences between Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and its predecessors. The most immediately obvious are the graphical enhancements. Not only does Corruption run in both 480p and 16:9 widescreen (another first for the series), but it dishes out larger, more detailed environments, crisper textures, dramatically improved particle effects, depth of field blur, screen shakes, and what is easily the best utilization of bloom lighting in any Wii game to date. It may seem like a trivial inclusion to some -- games like Ico, for example, have developed visual styles that revolve around bloom lighting -- but developer Retro Studios has taken it to the next level. Environments, objects and particle effects alike are illuminated with a neon-like hue that fits exceptionally well within the game's science-fiction setting. Other visual additions are more pronounced. When bringing up Aran's scan-visor (activated by pressing the minus button on the Wii remote), you will now see the bounty hunter's face clearly reflected -- not just for a split second, as in previous titles, but permanently. That face may even show signs of change as you advance through the game.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/814/814436p1.html
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3162168

[dmaul1114]

That graphical praise does sound promising! Though 1up was a bit less enthusiastic--though it was by Shane Bettenhausen.

Similarly, it's tough to stack Corruption's graphics against what you'll see in first-person games on other consoles. As expected, the same sublime artistry and cohesive aesthetic sensibility from the previous Prime titles return here, but at the same time, this looks awfully close to its GameCube forerunners. A few new blur effects and a rock-solid frame rate give it a negligible "next gen" sheen and crispness, but one look at the hyperdetailed, evocative visuals in BioShock will make the most ardent Wii-faithful envious. So, given the hardware's innate graphical limitations, Corruption generally makes the best of it and stays the course, delivering an eye-pleasing, imaginative quest through wild alien worlds. Likewise, the appropriately otherworldly soundtrack carries on the same moody Prime vibe we've all come to love, remixing classic themes and layering on the foreboding choruses.

[Zen Davis]

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[A Happy Panda]

Hacker!!!

[j.elles]

I wonder if Gamestop will get it Monday or Tuesday. I want to play now. I'll probably stop by Monday to see if they have my pre order.

[BREVITY]

They shouldnt have even let Shane touch the game.

[spiwak]

I dunno, I think the visuals look fucking sweet. Maybe its a little jaggier but big effin' deal. You can't knock a game that is forced to have less graphical power because it's on the less powerful console.

I'd rather see stellar artistic design than stellar horsepower. Bioshock just happens to have both through the roof.

[j.elles]

Shane plays up the sony fanboy thing for the show I think.

Remember he did play Twilight Princess and the Wii for like a month before even opening his PS3 once.

At least thats what they said on the show.

[dmaul1114]

I'd rather see stellar artistic design than stellar horsepower. Bioshock just happens to have both through the roof.

Your latter statement is why I always hate the former statement. Good art design and good technical graphics aren't mutually exclusive by nature.

We should all want the best of both worlds.

But I do agree that there's not much point in dwelling on it, as the Wii just doesn't have the horsepower. But it's hard not to think "damn I wish the Wii could make Metroid look as good as bioshock or Zelda as good as Oblivion etc."

But in the end of the day, the games are fun and that's most important. Just wish we could have had our cake and ate it too.

[j.elles]

Im a PC gamer and have had those sentiments for years. And with PC games a lot of them look great but have almost no art direction of any real merit. Same has been true so far with 99% of 360 and PS3 games.

So usually it is mutually exclusive. A certain developer usually is a source of good art direction. Dennis Dyack from System Shock and now Bio Shock is one that has a history of it. Valve and of course Retro is another that is known for it. Zelda is also known for it of course.

Good graphics usually come from companies like Epic and ID and there games are usually just very pretty with almost no varying level designs and cool artistic designs. Crytek gives me hopes though with Crysis as I thought Far Cry on PC was an amazing looking game if way to centered around tropical islands. Crysis has been hinted at having levels that havent been shown yet that look really different from what has been shown so far so I have hopes another developer will be added to the list.

[Zen Davis]

http://www.gamedaily.com/games/metroid-prime-3-corruption/15/game-videos/0/5361/7019?ncid=AOLGAM000500000000023

[A Happy Panda]

http://www.gamedaily.com/games/metroid-prime-3-corruption/15/game-videos/0/5361/7019?ncid=AOLGAM000500000000023

:rofl:

I love how pro those people are.

[Radioactive_Man]

I have played for about a little over 3 hours now. Playing on Veteran at 16% complete. So far I have picked up these weapon's/upgrades

First one is the grapple shot. To use it you lock onto your target which will be glowing yellow then flick the nunchuck forward, when it latches onto something you yank the nunchuck back. It came be used to take off shields from enemies and also works into puzzles.

Second one was the Ice missiles. They replace the regular missile by default. They pretty much work like they would, shot and it freezes.

Third being one upgrade for the hook which is the grappling which like the ice missiles works they way you would think.

The last one I got was an missile for the ship. You change the HUD and then point to where you would like the ship to shoot, the area you shoot is predetermined, or it was for the first time I used it.

--------------

The hyper mode is pretty bitchin'. You hold down the + to activate it. When you do the whole HUD turns blue and white, while in hyper mode you deal out massive damage but the down side is that when you use hyper mode it takes away energy from your life. Charging the shot lets you do a beam shot that reminds me of the wave beam from MP 1 although it comes out of your arm like a flame thrower.

The levels aren't tried together like in MP 1, you must travel to different parts of the planet using Samus ship. It kinda sucks but who knows it could be cool I guess.

So far I'd say it's going to be worth the purchase to anyone who liked MP. The controls take time but after awhile it's like butter.

I'll be posting more as I get farther.

[Tybee]

Further explanation of MP3's "achievement" system from IGN:

Metroid Prime 3 features a very welcomed rewards system that some have compared to achievements on Xbox Live. As you progress through the game, you earn Samus medals for accomplishing various goals, from 500 kills to beating certain enemies and scanning items. There are differently colored medals for your various successes, and you can use combos of these achievements to buy special unlockable extras -- concept art, music, storyboards, stickers and bobbleheads, and even a screenshot tool that enables you to (by pressing up on the D-Pad) snap in-game photos and send them to friends over WiiConnect24. The game also uses WiiConnect24 to let you trade friend vouchers with players you've already added to your Wii system address book. Friend vouchers can be converted into friend credits, which are also utilized -- in combination with the other medals -- to unlock the extras. Indeed, the best extras can only be purchased if you trade friend vouchers with your buddies. For the purposes of our hands-on update (and eventually our review), we traded vouchers with our friends at GameSpy, and then we converted those vouchers into friend credits to buy, for example, the screenshot tool.

Sounds cool indeed.

But bobbleheads? WTF?

[Callandor]

The last two videos are up on the preview channel.

[The Crotch]

Screenshots is a feature every game needs.

Every. Game.

[trq]

See, here's the problem.

... it's tough to stack Corruption's graphics against what you'll see in first-person games on other consoles.

No shit, Sherlock ... er ... Shane. That this still comes up tells me how little some in the "mainstream gaming press" get it. Christ, it's like hanging out with those people who feel obliged to tell you wrestling is fake. Really? Thanks for the newsflash, Einstein. That's not the point. Why isn't every handheld game review littered with the same kind of comment? "Gee, Untold Legends on the PSP doesn't really look so hot compared to Untold Legends on the PS3."

[Mr Durand Pierre]

I actually kinda liked Shane's 1up preview, not because he's a good writer (which he isn't especially), but because he had the same misgivings as I from the first hour and he claims that it gets a lot better.

IGN said the same thing, where at first all the editors but one liked the old-school automated lock-on, but after giving it more time, everyone decided the new control scheme was better. It just takes some getting used to. That's basically how I felt where I didn't care for the new controls at first, but I have to say that I got more and more used to them with every minute I played, and the fact that others have had the same problems initially as I means that I'll most likely adapt and learn to love the new controls too.

Both critics also mentioned that the game has a ton of puzzles and amazing new environments, and that the game doesn't really start proper until you reach the first planet. So while I was rather disappointed by my hour playthrough, I am now superhyped all over again as it sounds like the full game just keeps on getting better and better.

[Rocko]

You should really use your descriptions of where things are in the topic title as post numbers, not pages. Some people have different posts per page.

[ihadFG]

So does anyone know if this game will be available for pickup at Gamestop on Tuesday, or is that just the shipping date?

[maigoyume]

So does anyone know if this game will be available for pickup at Gamestop on Tuesday, or is that just the shipping date?available for pickup

[Apossum]

Guess I'll go the "buy at Circuit City, return liongames copy to circuit city" route like I did with Bioshock. :)

omfg:
--MP3
--Puzzle Fighter (360)
--Tekken online
--Warhawk

It's a good week to own all 3 systems! though I'll probably hold off on Warhawk.

[dmaul1114]

So does anyone know if this game will be available for pickup at Gamestop on Tuesday, or is that just the shipping date?

The shipping date is Monday, so they should have it by Tuesday.

[Kendal]

Guess I'll go the "buy at Circuit City, return liongames copy to circuit city" route like I did with Bioshock. :)

omfg:
--MP3
--Puzzle Fighter (360)
--Tekken online
--Warhawk

It's a good week to own all 3 systems! though I'll probably hold off on Warhawk.

Throw in Blue Dragon and possibly one or two more games and you have my week next week. I hope I can finish Bioshock tomorrow before I get all those games.

[Zen Davis]

It's leaked.

[KingBroly]

course it has been.
(person to the left of this post has it)

[ricoraney]

http://img168.imagevenue.com/loc470/th_83150_6bus6fa_122_470lo.jpg (http://img168.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=83150_6bus6fa_122_470lo.jpg)

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I'm going to wait for a lot of reviews on this one. They haven't done a good job translating Metroid into 3D (maybe it can't be).
You must be a total retard or something. How can you say that they didn't do a good job with translating the game to 3-D? What planet are you playing this on? Metroid Prime and Echoes were excellent translations.

[Zen Davis]

You must be a total retard or something. How can you say that they didn't do a good job with translating the game to 3-D? What planet are you playing this on? Metroid Prime and Echoes were excellent translations.

Don't insult people. Not cool.

[Mr Durand Pierre]

IGN gives it a 9.5. I don't always agree with Matt C, but his reasons why it's the best Prime (and Wii) game to date seem valid. Being able to warp between most save points via your ship sounds like a masterstroke, so the fact that it's the same length as the other Primes means that it's actually a bigger game, but better paced. Despite my disappointing first impression, I really can't wait for this game. Tues can't come soon enough.

[io]

Running a 95 average at Metacritic with just 4 reviews in. Hopefully it won't change much from there as more reviews come in.

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/metroidprime3corruption

Lowest is a 90, balanced out by the 100 from Nintendo Power ;). If this keeps up MP3 may challenge Bioshock (which pulled a 97 average over a whopping 42 reviews) for the best reviewed game of the year.

In any case, it looks like any lingering doubts should be dispelled (I didn't have any after reading the more recent previews but I know others did). I can't wait till Tuesday.

[daroga]

Wow, 9.5 from IGN, 9.0 from 1UP. And this game's not in HD, right??? ;)

I'm downloading IGN's and GT's video reviews right now. Gonna watch those and then play some Bioshock and forget that school starts tomorrow ;)

[SpazX]

This game will be so awesome. I really wish school started a month or so later...

[daroga]

Is there a decent video or text compilation of "Our story thus far" for the Prime games? I've never played them and wouldn't mind a mild bringing-up-to speed before playing Prime 3. The retrospective did a good job, just wondering if there was something else. Or if Samus = Phazon is about all you need.

[Cambot]

Is there a decent video or text compilation of "Our story thus far" for the Prime games? I've never played them and wouldn't mind a mild bringing-up-to speed before playing Prime 3. The retrospective did a good job, just wondering if there was something else. Or if Samus = Phazon is about all you need.

Just you play that there game, son. Make no fuss!

[SpazX]

Is there a decent video or text compilation of "Our story thus far" for the Prime games? I've never played them and wouldn't mind a mild bringing-up-to speed before playing Prime 3. The retrospective did a good job, just wondering if there was something else. Or if Samus = Phazon is about all you need.
Here's my simple understanding from playing the games (I'll put a spoiler for the hell of it):

First prime - Samus goes to the planet because of the space pirates going there for phazon or some shit. The space pirates of course are always doing their metroid experiments and somehow this huge metroid prime grows out of control and you fight it at the end of the game. As it dies it lands on samus and phazon pours out all over samus and she loses her phazon suit and runs off. As the game ends you see a samus clone of some sort (later becoming dark samus) emerging from the dead metroid prime/phazon pool.

Echoes - Space pirates have gone to planet Aether because of phazon (duh). Apparently a phazon meteorite hit the planet and in doing so split it into dark and light Aether and the dark creatures killed all of the luminoth. Samus goes there because of the federation, which had sent marines there who were all killed. Samus is told by the last remaining luminoth (and the holograms of dead ones) that she has to restore the energy of the planet to the light so that it becomes stable and dark Aether is sealed away. While doing this dark samus shows up and starts fucking with the space pirates, dark creatures, samus, whatever, so that she can get some phazon to stay alive. At the end you seal off dark Aether and as the game ends you see that the particles of dark samus remain in space and she isn't really dead.

I didn't read the retrospective so that could be repetition of it, and I could be wrong on some points, but that's a quick and dirty explanation by me.

[daroga]

Thanks Spaz, that helps :)

[spiwak]

Running a 95 average at Metacritic with just 4 reviews in. Hopefully it won't change much from there as more reviews come in.

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/metroidprime3corruption

Lowest is a 90, balanced out by the 100 from Nintendo Power ;). If this keeps up MP3 may challenge Bioshock (which pulled a 97 average over a whopping 42 reviews) for the best reviewed game of the year.

In any case, it looks like any lingering doubts should be dispelled (I didn't have any after reading the more recent previews but I know others did). I can't wait till Tuesday.
It could, but I doubt it will be challenging it in any Game of the Year competitions (I mean it will be, but I feel pretty certain Bioshock will be harvesting awards this year). The fact the Wii is less powerful will always set it back.

[Chacrana]

Wow. IGN's review makes me want this game right now. Unfortunately, I've gotta wait till the end of the week... sigh. Well anyway, as a person who really likes good music in games, I was happy about this:

The musical score by Kenji Yamamoto fits the atmosphere very well. It's more grandiose than it's been in previous Prime titles and yet there are some throwbacks that fans will like. For instance, when Samus enters a beautiful snow-filled scene, a remix of the song that originally played at the Phendrana Drifts chimes in the background.

Especially because Phendrana Drifts was my favorite part of the Metroid Prime serise.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Daroga, no early pick up from Wal-Mart? ;)

Can't wait to pick this up tomorrow from Best Buy.

[KingBroly]

I can't think of the last time a game released in August won GOTY. Usually, GOTY comes out in November or December.

Bioshock is overrated, mainly due to it's hype. It's not a 10, or even 9.5. In my eyes, it barely got a 9 because of some shakey controls and questionable graphical areas.

Back to Prime 3. If people say this is overrated due to its' hype, then those people are obviously deaf. Because this game has gotten no hype, and the review scores are probably a merit of that to some extent.

[Javery]

Grr... I have to wait until my birthday for this one - wife's orders.

[WiiGame]

This game will be so awesome. I really wish school started a month or so later...

me too...damn school!

Grr... I have to wait until my birthday for this one - wife's orders.
show her that commercial with all the different types of people playing metroid 3... she'll jump into it herself

[elwood731]

I can't think of the last time a game released in August won GOTY. Usually, GOTY comes out in November or December.

Bioshock is overrated, mainly due to it's hype. It's not a 10, or even 9.5. In my eyes, it barely got a 9 because of some shakey controls and questionable graphical areas.

Back to Prime 3. If people say this is overrated due to its' hype, then those people are obviously deaf. Because this game has gotten no hype, and the review scores are probably a merit of that to some extent.
Wha...? Prime 3 has gottne no hype? Compared to what, Barbie's Horse Adventures? This has been THE game getting hype for the Wii since it was announced--only eclipsed by Zelda. Heck, it gets more hype than Mario Galaxy has. MP3 is hardly flying under the radar.

[daroga]

Daroga, no early pick up from Wal-Mart? ;)

Can't wait to pick this up tomorrow from Best Buy.Yeah, I've got no time to play it tonight and I'll end up buying it at Best Buy anyway ($5 coupon from the whole Rock Band incident and I've got a gift card anyway), so I'll just wait on this one for a few hours ;)

And Bioshock is overrated? Really? The game's pretty awesome in my book.

[Zen Davis]

Guys. Played it for a bit. Do not expect Resident Evil 4 type aiming precision or you will be letdown.

[Strell]

I might pick up a few copies of this. Just to support it.

[daroga]

Guys. Played it for a bit. Do not expect Resident Evil 4 type aiming precision or you will be letdown.Did you put it on the advanced setting?

[dallow]

Pretty good reviews.

I guess I'll give it a rent.
I want some medals. (aka, achievements)

[KingBroly]

Now, it all depends on what Gamespot does.

[Zen Davis]

Did you put it on the advanced setting?

Yeah. I only played it on advanced. Haven't tried it on normal or basic. The graphics are much, much better than the Gamecube games. The bloom lighting is used very effectively.

If you've watched the preview videos for Prime 3 on the Wii, you'll notice that a lot of times people are usually just rapid firing instead of charging up shots. That seems to be since because the reticule is so small on advanced, its easier to nail the enemies with numerous shots instead of a charged one. If you are going to try for a charged shot, you'll need to have pinpoint precision with your wii mote or you will miss.

Also unless your hand is really steady, Samus will feel like she is drunk as hell and she will wobble down the hallways of the space station with the screen tilting to the left and right. I don't have any issues with turning but aiming has been a pain. I think I'll get used to it though.

[dmaul1114]

Reviews definitely have me even more stoked to pick it up tomorrow!

Moreso the 1up review, as Matt C. is such a fanboy and review quote whore that you have to take all his reviews with a grain of salt.

[pittpizza]

YAY its finally here! I have a bag log of games right now but really look forward to playing this eventually.

[maigoyume]

Now, it all depends on what Gamespot does. i usually wait for their reviews before making a decision, though i'll have the game in hand by tomorrow

[KwanzaaTimmy]

It's either this or Warhawk for me this week (Strange Choice to make I know), all the reviews look great, and I loved Prime (Didn't play Echoes)---Looking at the vids it really does look crisp and clean. I'll wait on the gamespot review for both of these titles, but is it in stores tomorrow or is it the Ship date?

2k's recent releases (Darkness, Bioshock) have got me spoiled that Tuesday is the day to get games, but as we all know thats not always the case.

[daroga]

2k's recent releases (Darkness, Bioshock) have got me spoiled that Tuesday is the day to get games, but as we all know thats not always the case.It's always Tuesday for Nintendo titles. They ship on Mondays.

[fdu]

Do 24 hr WalMarts get the Tuesday releases at midnight?

[daroga]

Do 24 hr WalMarts get the Tuesday releases at midnight?Many walmarts will have it in the evening tonight.

[Tybee]

YAY its finally here! I have a bag log of games right now but really look forward to playing this eventually.

A what now? :-s

[hohez]

I'm surprised by so many stand offish posts about this game. Seems like more people aren't getting it than are getting it. Am I missing something or is this franchise drastically less popular than i always thought?

Also...waiting on gamespot to make your choice? Why Gamespot? They've never exactly risen above the rest with review quality to me.

The second this game arrives i'm getting it and rubbing it in like lotion!

[maigoyume]

I'm surprised by so many stand offish posts about this game. Seems like more people aren't getting it than are getting it. Am I missing something or is this franchise drastically less popular than i always thought?

Also...waiting on gamespot to make your choice? Why Gamespot? They've never exactly risen above the rest with review quality to me.

The second this game arrives i'm getting it and rubbing it in like lotion!gamespots reviewers tend to have the same mindset as i do, which is why i value their reviews, of course i've bought games that they've given bad review scores to and that i enjoyed, eg. rub rabbits, but generally gamespot is consistent in terms of quality reviews IMHO

[jollydwarf]

Always remember to subtract 0.5 from the IGN score of a game (especially one they review early!), and add 0.5 to Gamespot's score.

I didn't read the entire IGN Matt Kissalottaassa review, but the "Ratings" section at the end reads like 100% undiluted, high-concentrate Gush. Rarely do you see any game get 9 and up in every category.

I would've preordered this game, but I am just so backlogged right now. It's the kind of game that one should save for rainier, colder days, anyway.

[Strell]

Jollydwarf gets no say in the matter, he still can't get over the shock of it coming out this year.

[jollydwarf]

Well, the Give 'n' Take Law just says that this means that Brawl slips!

I'm stickin' to that one! Even after I'm wrong!

[ArthurDigbySellers]

I didn't read the entire IGN Matt Kissalottaassa review

Ho, ho! Good one! You must really miss Luke Smith.

Always remember to subtract 0.5 from the IGN score of a game (especially one they review early!), and add 0.5 to Gamespot's score.

I do agree with this.

[jollydwarf]

Well, I try to listen to the Bungie official podcast...but it ain't the same. It's a fucking infomercial. (Shocking, I know.) My, how things have changed for Righteous Rantboy. Yeah, I do miss him, though. Can't wait to hear the 'reunion' "1up Yours".

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Well, I try to listen to the Bungie official podcast...but it ain't the same. It's a fucking infomercial. (Shocking, I know.) My, how things have changed for Righteous Rantboy. Yeah, I do miss him, though. Can't wait to hear the 'reunion' "1up Yours".

Oh yeah, the PAX one. That should be pretty good actually. Especially since it was live - the clusterfuck quotient should be pretty high.

[dmaul1114]

Also...waiting on gamespot to make your choice? Why Gamespot? They've never exactly risen above the rest with review quality to me.


I'm not as in to games as I used to be along with being extremely busy with work etc., and as such I'm very critical and picky of what I spend my limited gaming time on.

Gamespot and EGM are my most trusted reviewers as they are the harshest out there. Sites like IGN, mags like gamepro etc. are far to free with the 10's and 9's (or 5's and 4.5's etc.) for my tastes.

[trq]

Gamespot and EGM are my most trusted reviewers as they are the harshest out there. Sites like IGN, mags like gamepro etc. are far to free with the 10's and 9's (or 5's and 4.5's etc.) for my tastes.

Even if you feel they're a tad high, you've got to admit IGN is a far cry from Play or GamePro. The IGN archives are littered with low or modestly scored games (look at the recent Heavenly Sword review, for example), where as the others basically have the same gaming credibility as Maxim.

[dmaul1114]

Even if you feel they're a tad high, you've got to admit IGN is a far cry from Play or GamePro. The IGN archives are littered with low or modestly scored games (look at the recent Heavenly Sword review, for example), where as the others basically have the same gaming credibility as Maxim.

Of course they are better than those, just far below gamespot and EGM IMO. Especially with Matt C. He's such a Nintendo fanboy and loves to over praise games to ge this quote in the game ads that I generally won't even read his reviews.

[Zoglog]

I wonder if this installment will be better than the first one. I bought the first metroid prime because of the high scores and it ended up being a steaming pile of crap. But seeing as how the last game I played on my Wii was raving rabbids back in Feb and I havent touched my wii since then it gets me wondering....

Does this installment fix all the problems from the first one and is it more fun.... The first game was drab with boring textures and exploration and the useless scanning and autoaim. Oh well, I 'll wait till more reviews come out. From the 1up impressions they said it starts out like Halo.

[gkrykewy]

I wonder if this installment will be better than the first one. I bought the first metroid prime because of the high scores and it ended up being a steaming pile of crap. But seeing as how the last game I played on my Wii was raving rabbids back in Feb and I havent touched my wii since then it gets me wondering....

Does this installment fix all the problems from the first one and is it more fun.... The first game was drab with boring textures and exploration and the useless scanning and autoaim. Oh well, I 'll wait till more reviews come out. From the 1up impressions they said it starts out like Halo.

If you consider the first MP a "steaming pile of crap", then you should stay far away from this game. Also you have bad taste.

[Tybee]

I wonder if this installment will be better than the first one. I bought the first metroid prime because of the high scores and it ended up being a steaming pile of crap. But seeing as how the last game I played on my Wii was raving rabbids back in Feb and I havent touched my wii since then it gets me wondering....

Does this installment fix all the problems from the first one and is it more fun.... The first game was drab with boring textures and exploration and the useless scanning and autoaim. Oh well, I 'll wait till more reviews come out. From the 1up impressions they said it starts out like Halo.

Good ol' Zoglog....always good for a fork in the testicles. :roll:

[Callandor]

Good ol' Zoglog....always good for a fork in the testicles. :roll:
:applause:

[ihadFG]

I wonder if this installment will be better than the first one. I bought the first metroid prime because of the high scores and it ended up being a steaming pile of crap. But seeing as how the last game I played on my Wii was raving rabbids back in Feb and I havent touched my wii since then it gets me wondering....

Does this installment fix all the problems from the first one and is it more fun.... The first game was drab with boring textures and exploration and the useless scanning and autoaim. Oh well, I 'll wait till more reviews come out. From the 1up impressions they said it starts out like Halo.
Yeah, its not like the first one was the highest rated Gamecube game ever...meaning that most everyone loved it. ;)

(http://www.metacritic.com/search/ (http://www.metacritic.com/search/process?ty=3&ts=&tfs=game_all&sb=5&game_platform=CUBE&x=18&y=3&release_date_s=&release_date_e=&metascore_s=&metascore_e=http://www.metacritic.com/search/process?ty=3&ts=&tfs=game_all&sb=5&game_platform=CUBE&x=18&y=3&release_date_s=&release_date_e=&metascore_s=&metascore_e=))

[dmaul1114]

If you consider the first MP a "steaming pile of crap", then you should stay far away from this game.

Yep, just stay away. Reviews have noted that new controls and better pacing aside, it still feels very much like it's predecessors.

If you didn't like the first one, you're not going to like this (unless the auto aim was the only thing that made you hate it).

[A Happy Panda]

Yeah, its not like the first one was the highest rated Gamecube game ever...meaning that most everyone loved it. ;)

(http://www.metacritic.com/search/ (http://www.metacritic.com/search/process?ty=3&ts=&tfs=game_all&sb=5&game_platform=CUBE&x=18&y=3&release_date_s=&release_date_e=&metascore_s=&metascore_e=http://www.metacritic.com/search/process?ty=3&ts=&tfs=game_all&sb=5&game_platform=CUBE&x=18&y=3&release_date_s=&release_date_e=&metascore_s=&metascore_e=))

Listening to other people's opinions = teh lose.

He hates it. You like it. Whatever.

[shipwreck]

I picked this up at Best Buy today and will be putting some time in with it tonight so that I can give my thoughts on it during our next podcast. I know that I enjoyed the demo of it I played earlier today though.

[A Happy Panda]

I picked this up at Best Buy today and will be putting some time in with it tonight so that I can give my thoughts on it during our next podcast. I know that I enjoyed the demo of it I played earlier today though.

WTF? It's in-stores?!

[shipwreck]

WTF? It's in-stores?!

They had around 50 of them on the shelves at the Best Buy I went to (Fields-Ertel, Ohio).

[jer7583]

wow, out already.. Nintendo doesn't waste time.

And Zoglog hates all things good, don't mind him.

[A Happy Panda]

wow, out already.. Nintendo doesn't waste time.

And Zoglog hates all things good, don't mind him.

I'll have to call my EBX to see if they got my copy in then!

Also, no I'd agree with Zoglog. MP 1 was really a steaming pile of crap. Auto-aim first person FTL.

The controls are THE driving force for me getting this game. OH and the giant ass bosses.

[dmaul1114]

Yeah, it shipped today, so some places should have it today, most by tomorrow (though I think CC or one of the other big stores has it in the ad as available Wednesday so they might not put it out until then).

[jer7583]

I guess that's what I get for pre-ordering, getting the game a day later and at retail price. Shitty gaming stores.

[Rusty Ghia]

I'll have to call my EBX to see if they got my copy in then!

Also, no I'd agree with Zoglog. MP 1 was really a steaming pile of crap. Auto-aim first person FTL.

The controls are THE driving force for me getting this game. OH and the giant ass bosses.

I actually like auto-aim in my games. I just want to play and have fun, not struggle for each shot.

I really want to get Metroid Prime 3, but I need to get a Wii first. Besides this and Super Paper Mario, I'm not interested in any of the other games. And $250 + $50 +$50 (and tax) just to play two games is too rich for my blood.

[fdu]

Agh, why does it always take so long to ship to CA?! :bomb:

[Callandor]

I picked this up at Best Buy today
:shock: Ohio isn't THAT far from Minnesota... *runs to the store*

[Sofa King Kool]

I've never been a big Metroid fan, but I really want a new Wii game. There hasn't been anything to play for so long.

[nyprimus4]

I guess that's what I get for pre-ordering, getting the game a day later and at retail price. Shitty gaming stores.
Save games like Halo 3 this gen I'm not preordering anything. Something is bound to happen where you can get it cheaper, and on release day. For example I preordered Bioshock at GS, then I read all about the TRU shenanigans. So I canceled my preorder at Gamestop and ended up paying $84 total for Madden 08 and Bioshock, a week before Bioshock's release, and the day after Madden came out.

[rodeojones903]

I agree with Zog. I really didn't like the first two, but am craving a real game to play on the wii so I am tempted to pick it up.

[daroga]

I've never been a big Metroid fan, but I really want a new Wii game. There hasn't been anything to play for so long.It's sad that you've been Strikers deprived. :(

[crystalklear64]

I've never been a big Metroid fan, but I really want a new Wii game. There hasn't been anything to play for so long.
I'm in the same position. Nothing really awesome about the first 2 3D Metroid games, rather dull infact, but I have not touched my Wii (lol, -_-...) for many months. I feel like I should buy an actual game for it.

[dmaul1114]

Save games like Halo 3 this gen I'm not preordering anything. Something is bound to happen where you can get it cheaper, and on release day. For example I preordered Bioshock at GS, then I read all about the TRU shenanigans. So I canceled my preorder at Gamestop and ended up paying $84 total for Madden 08 and Bioshock, a week before Bioshock's release, and the day after Madden came out.

I only preorder when there's either some kind of decent freebie for doing so, or there was a decent trade in deal and I wanted to use credit.

It was the latter this time, with the extra $10 on any Wii game trade in coupon. I wouldn't have time to play until tomorrow night at the earliest anyway, so no skin off my nose having to wait.

[Sofa King Kool]

It's sad that you've been Strikers deprived. :(
I was going to get that, but it's a party game, and my friends are very, very picky about what games they play. I spent $30 dollars on Double Dash and we only played it once for a total of five minutes. I love it, but nobody else will play it. I don't want Strikers to be another Double Dash, so now I only buy party games that I know my friends will play.

[dmaul1114]

Strikers has online play, assuming you have broadband. I passed on it as I've never cared for the Mario Sports games.

[A Happy Panda]

Strikers has online play, assuming you have broadband. I passed on it as I've never cared for the Mario Sports games.

...lol @ Wii online.

[Zoglog]

wow thank you for all the useless answers. I'm looking for someone who did not enjoy the first game to review this third one to see if it's any good plain and simple. I don't want to make the same mistake I did when I purchased metroid prime for gamecube.

[A Happy Panda]

Just got shot down from my EBX. They won't sell til tomorrow. The guy pretty much dodged my question when I said "I figured I just ask since I heard some stores already got their copies in and are selling them" His response "Nope, not selling until tomorrow"

They're back there you bastard, I know they are!

[jer7583]

What makes you think it will be any different? It's the third in a series that doesn't change much at all. It still uses lock on, but in the same way the Godfather used lock on, as in it locks the camera to an enemy, but not your aim, your aim is with the pointer.

You won't like it, so spare us the whining later and avoid it.

I suppose I can't complain too bad because i'm using credit from the GameCrazy 50% bonus deal. I'll just play system shock 2 tonight.

[dmaul1114]

wow thank you for all the useless answers. I'm looking for someone who did not enjoy the first game to review this third one to see if it's any good plain and simple. I don't want to make the same mistake I did when I purchased metroid prime for gamecube.

From the 1up review.


"It's (as if) the best title from six years in the future fell through a time warp."

That was me, reviewing the original Metroid Prime on its release in the fall of 2002. The funny thing is, playing Metroid Prime 3: Corruption almost six years later, it often does feel like the same game.

From the IGN review.


If you were on board Samus Aran's Hunter-Class Gunship for the critically acclaimed first outing and its sequel, you will be ready for the third and final act in the trilogy because, at least from a design standpoint, there haven't been too many major changes. The heroine still explores exotic alien terrain and fights fearsome alien creatures, and the re-traversal backbone that has powered Metroid projects since the NES classic that started it all remains completely and thankfully intact. So if you've never liked these titles, Corruption probably isn't going to make you a believer, even with its enhanced graphics and spectacular new controls.


It's more of the same with new controls. So again, unless the ONLY reason you didn't like the first 2 was due to the lock on aiming, you're not going to like this one either as that's pretty much all they changed in the formula.

[A Happy Panda]

From the 1up review.



From the IGN review.




It's more of the same with new controls. So again, unless the ONLY reason you didn't like the first 2 was due to the lock on aiming, you're not going to like this one either as that's pretty much all they changed in the formula.

Welcome to me :)

[dmaul1114]

...lol @ Wii online.

The friend codes are a pain, but the games work and lag usually isn't bad, so it is a viable option for someone that wants to play Strikers multiplayer but doesn't have friends who are into it.

[dmaul1114]

Welcome to me :)

Yep, you should like it it seems.

But I doubt Zoglog will since he seemed to hate pretty much everything about the first.


The first game was drab with boring textures and exploration and the useless scanning and autoaim.

[Sofa King Kool]

Strikers has online play, assuming you have broadband. I passed on it as I've never cared for the Mario Sports games.

Yeah I guess so, but it's just not the same as playing with a group of friends. The only way I'd actually want the game is if I could play it with them.

[A Happy Panda]

Yeah I guess so, but it's just not the same as playing with a group of friends. The only way I'd actually want the game is if I could play it with them.

I'm the exact same way. For the most part, the only game I play online is Halo 2, with a spell of GoW in there for good measure. But if I get a game that is designed to be a party game, I want my friends to enjoy it. It sucks when they like it for like a week, then they're ready to move on. I'm always like...ok you fuckers get your own controllers and own console next time damnit!

[Zen Davis]

wow thank you for all the useless answers. I'm looking for someone who did not enjoy the first game to review this third one to see if it's any good plain and simple. I don't want to make the same mistake I did when I purchased metroid prime for gamecube.

That's like the most backwards thing I've ever heard. You just want someone to tell you the game sucks so you can conjure up a reason to not buy.

Well here's one: fuck off.

[jer7583]

I'm stunned by the "bland textures" arguement towards the first prime.

I recommend this gametrailers review for those on the fence.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24117.htm

"Controls so well that you will never want to go back to a dual stick setup again"

"The first metroid prime is one of the highest rated games in existance, but prime 3 is easily superior. Far less frustrating, and more action packed, while managing to redefine console shooting controls in the process."

Strong words from a site not so generous with their review scores. Zoglog is missing out. Shame.

[dmaul1114]

Yeah I guess so, but it's just not the same as playing with a group of friends. The only way I'd actually want the game is if I could play it with them.

Fair enough, I'm pretty much the same. Never been big into online gaming (other than coop with friends who've moved away.

[dmaul1114]

Just got the automated Gamestop call saying that it would be in tomorrow afternoon. Not sure I'll have time for it tomorrow night though. Hopefully will be able to give it a spin Wednesday night as I'll be out of town after that. :(

[Draccius]

Doubt it's too helpful now, but my Target (Lansing, MI) had them in this morning.

I've enjoyed it quite a bit. The controls take a little bit to get used to, but it is very natural once you get a comfortable position and realize you only need to make minor movements to get the job done.

Manipulating doors and using the grapple is pretty fun, methinks.

And the people speak! Speech! In a Nintendo game!

[A Happy Panda]

Doubt it's too helpful now, but my Target (Lansing, MI) had them in this morning.

I've enjoyed it quite a bit. The controls take a little bit to get used to, but it is very natural once you get a comfortable position and realize you only need to make minor movements to get the job done.

Manipulating doors and using the grapple is pretty fun, methinks.

And the people speak! Speech! In a Nintendo game!

I'm wondering how tedious it gets to use the grapple to rip off the doors. I hope it doesn't become just an excuse to use your nunchuck. The other thing that looks like throw-in for the controls, are the parts where you have to turn your Wiimote like a key. That's not compelling gameplay.

[shipwreck]

I'm wondering how tedious it gets to use the grapple to rip off the doors. I hope it doesn't become just an excuse to use your nunchuck. The other thing that looks like throw-in for the controls, are the parts where you have to turn your Wiimote like a key. That's not compelling gameplay.

It's not tedious at all. The grappling hook is pretty fun and intuitive. This is probably the best use of Wii controls in a standard-style, non-minigame so far. Not 100% perfect as there is some stuff that is awkward even when you get used to it, but after a very short learning curve, this game is very easy to control. Plus, the steadiness and accuracy of the aiming is refreshing to see.

As for the key and door handle stuff, I could personally care less, but I suppose it may be slightly more immersive than just pressing "A" for some people. It doesn't detract from the game having it in there though.

[Draccius]

I'm wondering how tedious it gets to use the grapple to rip off the doors. I hope it doesn't become just an excuse to use your nunchuck. The other thing that looks like throw-in for the controls, are the parts where you have to turn your Wiimote like a key. That's not compelling gameplay.

I don't know. I like those aspects of the game because it makes you a little more involved in the environment, which enhances gameplay, IMHO.

The only part that is a little cumbersome for me so far is scanning. Pulling up the scan visor is a bit of a pain, as you have to hit the "-" button, point at the visor, then do your scanning. It's fine when you're not fighting, but annoying when trying to scan a fast enemy.

[A Happy Panda]

I don't know. I like those aspects of the game because it makes you a little more involved in the environment, which enhances gameplay, IMHO.

The only part that is a little cumbersome for me so far is scanning. Pulling up the scan visor is a bit of a pain, as you have to hit the "-" button, point at the visor, then do your scanning. It's fine when you're not fighting, but annoying when trying to scan a fast enemy.

Shipwreck - I actually specifically meant the part where you grapple onto a door with debris on it, then fling the debris off. I'm sure the actual grappling parts are quite fun, but ripping doors apart could get boring...also ripping shields off of enemies could get tiresome too.

And yeah I agree. I can see how it's "cool" the first like 10x you do it...but when you go through this game, which is estimated to be around 20 hours...I can imagine that yeah, it stops being cool completely. Still, these are small nitpicks. I'm excited to pick up my copy tomorrow, but I'm not sure if I'll find the time to play it with Bioshock still on my plate.

Also, yeah I read about the scanning part of the game...that actually sounds really shitty =/

[J35U5]

The IGN review said something about MP3 having WiiConnect24 compatibility. anybody know what that means?

like sharing high scores or new levels or what?

[dmaul1114]

The IGN review said something about MP3 having WiiConnect24 compatibility. anybody know what that means?

like sharing high scores or new levels or what?


All I've heard so far is for posting your medals (achievements basically) and that you eventually can take screen shots and send them to friends.

[Zoglog]

From the 1up review.



From the IGN review.




It's more of the same with new controls. So again, unless the ONLY reason you didn't like the first 2 was due to the lock on aiming, you're not going to like this one either as that's pretty much all they changed in the formula.

Thanks, that helps quite a bit.

[Sofa King Kool]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24117.htm


That really helped. I might actually get this. I need a new Wii game, and I feel kind of guilty because I always play as Samus in Super Smash Brothers, yet I haven't played a single Metroid game for more than ten minutes...

[A Happy Panda]

That really helped. I might actually get this. I need a new Wii game, and I feel kind of guilty because I always play as Samus in Super Smash Brothers, yet I haven't played a single Metroid game for more than ten minutes...

Really? Even I've played through most of Super Metroid.

Psst. It's not the best game of all-time like people think it is. Not even the best SNES game. But it's still very good!

[dmaul1114]

Psst. It's not the best game of all-time like people think it is. Not even the best SNES game. But it's still very good!

I don't get into that elitist "best" crap, but it's definitely my favorite game of all time.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

My local Target has it in stock. Heading out now...

[KingBroly]

GameDaily gives it a 9, Gamespot an 8.5

Gamespot isn't surprising if you look at ratings for other Wii games. They're always down on Nintendo compared to other reviews.

[Sofa King Kool]

Really? Even I've played through most of Super Metroid.

Psst. It's not the best game of all-time like people think it is. Not even the best SNES game. But it's still very good!
Well, I'm thinking about getting Metroid on Virtual Console, but I feel like I'll be playing it just for the sake of being able to say I've played it. Which, from past experience, isn't the most fun way to play games.

I'll probably end up getting both though. I've got over $200 bucks just sitting around waiting to be spent.

[io]

Just got shot down from my EBX. They won't sell til tomorrow. The guy pretty much dodged my question when I said "I figured I just ask since I heard some stores already got their copies in and are selling them" His response "Nope, not selling until tomorrow"

They're back there you bastard, I know they are!

Funny, I got a similar response from mine (82nd Ave). I tried fishing for the "early shipment" thing and he said "NEVER". Bastard. They sure as hell DO get games early sometimes - and could sell them in this case today as it is the release date. Whatever... I'm sure they didn't have it, but the "NEVER" just pissed me off - almost enough to just get it elsewhere and then cancel on the bastard (to hurt his numbers). It's a pain for me to drive up there tomorrow anyway when I could just get it from a closer store (I preordered it there using one of the deals a few months back).

Thing is, I haven't even gotten the "Aeris" call yet, so they better, in fact, have it tomorrow!

And Zoglog, I don't know what the hell you are expecting, but if the first one was a steaming pile of crap to you, then I imagine this will be a steaming pile of crap with slightly better graphics and a few other minor improvements in the texture of the crap. I could see someone thinking the first one was OK, and then maybe this improves it enough to make a good game a great one. But in your case I think I wouldn't bother.

[jer7583]

Gamespot flamebait "no multiplayer" review is lol. Talk about not getting it.. Whatever. They've always gotta lowball things, and are becoming quite predictable in that way.

[fdu]

If anybody in Southern CA spotted a copy, let me know...!

[ihadFG]

Gamespot flamebait "no multiplayer" review is lol. Talk about not getting it.. Whatever. They've always gotta lowball things, and are becoming quite predictable in that way.
As long as they give Halo 3 an 8.5 also, then I would be alright with their 8.5 for MP3, but you know that won't happen. (there excuse for the 8.5 was that MP3 was too similar to the first two so let's see what they will say for Halo 3 - not that I'm not looking forward to Halo 3 though)

[lanzarlaluna]

Kevin VanOrd, who did the review for GameSpot, is a really solid editor. He is probably the least likely to be biased against the Wii, so I can feel safe in trusting his review. Unlike the hyperbole lacing Matt Cassimassina's reviews.

I'll still buy the game tomorrow. :)

[Wlogan31]

Wow - never played a Metroid, but after that trailer I'm sold (and I hate FPS)

[whoknows]

Looks pretty awesome from the GT video review.

When I get a Wii someday I'll be sure to grab it.

[UndyingForce]

I'm stunned by the "bland textures" arguement towards the first prime.

I recommend this gametrailers review for those on the fence.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24117.htm

"Controls so well that you will never want to go back to a dual stick setup again"

"The first metroid prime is one of the highest rated games in existance, but prime 3 is easily superior. Far less frustrating, and more action packed, while managing to redefine console shooting controls in the process."

Strong words from a site not so generous with their review scores. Zoglog is missing out. Shame.

Are there any spoilers in that review?
I havent watched IGN's video review because they say its spoiler filled

[KingBroly]

The spoilers in Gametrailers review was visual based. Like showing off boss battles. No warning whatsoever.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

I've played about 40 minutes so far and I am really enjoying it. If any of you have played a MP game recently, the control scheme is going to knock you for a loop initially. The lock on/free look option is pretty cool, but having played both MP1 and 2, I am expecting lock-on to mean shoot = hit. Since you have to actually aim even when you are locked on, it takes a little getting used to.

Oh, and you can use WiiConnect 24 to trade "Friend Vouchers" to other players to unlock content - and guess what? No friend codes. It uses your Wii friend list. It shows which friends have MP3 save data on their machine so you know who you can send the vouchers to. Pretty neat idea.

[trip1eX]

Eh GAmespot's review seemed glowing and yet an 8.5 which of course is good.

I'm pretty sure lack of hi-def graphics is an automatic 1 deduction on some sites.

[dmaul1114]

Eh GAmespot's review seemed glowing and yet an 8.5 which of course is good.

I'm pretty sure lack of hi-def graphics is an automatic 1 deduction on some sites.


I'd say this paragraph from the review explains the 8.5 rating.

Yet Corruption's focus on refined FPS mechanics and general sense of familiarity keep it from being as special as the other Prime titles. Just like Resident Evil 4 would have felt different--and arguably worse--had its controls been stripped down to a simple FPS scheme, Corruption loses some of its sense of wonder and strangeness on the Wii. Rather than being a true action adventure, it's hard to lose the sense that it's merely an FPS with trimmings. Its core control scheme is a revelation, but the resulting tempo adjustment and streamlining is missing some of the careful pacing that made Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2 so superb.

So nothing to do with lack of HD, multiplayer etc., but rather he felt that the game's shift more towards being a straight up FPS games rather than adventure, as well as pacing changes, hurt it somewhat compared to it's predecessors.

That does concern me a bit, as I was wary of the new controls making it too much like an FPS, but I still can't wait to play it.

[Dezuria]

GameSpot just has a thing against games that are similar to previous games. Even if they're sequels.

[dmaul1114]

GameSpot just has a thing against games that are similar to previous games. Even if they're sequels.

:dunce:

From the paragraph I pasted above, it seemed that it got a lower score from departing from the first two games too much.

EGM is the one with the knocks against similarity, with an official policy of scoring sequels a point or 2 lower if they don't offer enough innovation.

[maigoyume]

Eh GAmespot's review seemed glowing and yet an 8.5 which of course is good.

I'm pretty sure lack of hi-def graphics is an automatic 1 deduction on some sites.gamespot tends to be uber picky in terms of giving out EXCELLENT reviews, and theres the graphics issue, not a problem for MP3 but for most other wii games

[whoknows]

Eh GAmespot's review seemed glowing and yet an 8.5 which of course is good.

I'm pretty sure lack of hi-def graphics is an automatic 1 deduction on some sites.
Gamespot just likes to fight the power.

I quit caring for them long ago when the lowered the Devil May Cry 3 score because it was too hard for the guy reviewing it.

I do think their Twilight Princess score was right though.

[The Crotch]

From the paragraph I pasted above, it seemed that it got a lower score from departing from the first two games too much.
Yet Corruption's focus on refined FPS mechanics and general sense of familiarityEmphasis mine.

It looks to me like Gamespot complained about both. Not sure just how a game can both be too similar to its predecessors and stray too far from its roots at the same time. My meager human brain always considered those two things to be polar fucking opposites. Guess I'll need more reviews before I figure out which one of those is true, but I'm leaning towards "too similar to previous Primes".

What? Play the game myself and actually make my own decision?

Yeah, I'll get right on that as soon as they open up an EB in the middle of fucking nowhere.

[jkam]

Gamespot sucks donkey dick at this point. Their reviews are all biased pieces of bullshit. It's obvious that most of these reviews are from people who are burnt out on games all together and should stop playing them and get a new job. They just like to give the lowest score so they can say they did. As for the Wii's graphics even if the games aren't being grading on them I'm still sick of hearing how they don't stack up. It's as if they beat the dead horse went back and beat the bloody corpse and then beat the mangled skeleton and then picked the bones to shove through their noses. We all understand at this point that its not as capable in the graphics arena.

[dmaul1114]

Emphasis mine.

It looks to me like Gamespot complained about both. Not sure just how a game can both be too similar to its predecessors and stray too far from its roots at the same time. My meager human brain always considered those two things to be polar fucking opposites. Guess I'll need more reviews before I figure out which one of those is true, but I'm leaning towards "too similar to previous Primes".

What? Play the game myself and actually make my own decision?

Yeah, I'll get right on that as soon as they open up an EB in the middle of fucking nowhere.


Yeah, that is a bit odd I guess. And of course one should play games to make their own decisions. Reviews are just guidance for games one is on the fence about.

I tend to agree with Gamespot scores, and I have a feeling this will reflect my score since I'd give MP1 a 9.0 and MP2 a 7.5 and I see this one falling in between. :D

[maigoyume]

Yeah, that is a bit odd I guess. And of course one should play games to make their own decisions. Reviews are just guidance for games one is on the fence about.

I tend to agree with Gamespot scores, and I have a feeling this will reflect my score since I'd give MP1 a 9.0 and MP2 a 7.5 and I see this one falling in between. :Dgranted mp2 wasn't quite as good as mp1 but it still wasn't 7.5 level :cry:

[Theduck]

8.5 lols

[dmaul1114]

Gamespot sucks donkey dick at this point. Their reviews are all biased pieces of bullshit. It's obvious that most of these reviews are from people who are burnt out on games all together and should stop playing them and get a new job.

LOL

That totally describes me, I've lost a shitload of interest in gaming since the move to 3D and it's just grown lesser each generation since then.

As such I'm hyper critical of games and really only play 2 or 3a year that I really enjoy these days.

Guess that's why Gamespot and EGMs review scores tend to be closest to my own. :D

[lanzarlaluna]

8.5 lols Thanks for the uber witty and cerebral contribution to the discussion.

[dmaul1114]

granted mp2 wasn't quite as good as mp1 but it still wasn't 7.5 level :cry:

I hated it pretty much, and was damn tempted to give it lower. Hated the dark world concept (never played a game with 2 versions of a the same world that I liked aside from Link to the Past--as you spent most of your time in unique dungeons) which was made worse by losing health in the dark for most of the game.

And I'm a pussy and suck and games and it was way too fucking hard for me.

[maigoyume]

I hated it pretty much, and was damn tempted to give it lower. Hated the dark world concept (never played a game with 2 versions of a the same world that I liked aside from Link to the Past--as you spent most of your time in unique dugeons) which was made worse by losing health in the dark for most of the game.

And I'm a pussy and suck and games and it was way to fucking hard for me.the difficulty i can understand, damn near threw my controller after about the 20th loss against boost ball guardian, that would put some people off, i quite enjoyed the dark world though, it was an interesting addition and helped pad the game out a bit, not to mention the eerie feeling you got since the place was almost pitch black and purple puddles of death just get to you :cold:

[dmaul1114]

...I quite enjoyed the dark world though, it was an interesting addition and helped pad the game out a bit, not to mention the eerie feeling you got since the place was almost pitch black and purple puddles of death just get to you :cold:

Pad being the operative word here for me, it just nearly doubled the back tracking. I'd probably have not minded it as much if you weren't spending half yoru time there standing under a fucking light to heal. They should have gave you the suit that made you take no damage there much earlier in the game to avoid that tedious crap.

[Cao Cao]

Okay. Time to stop with the review-bashing. There's no need to continue this and turn the topic of another popular game that got a high score that's lower than the perceived "average" score into a 300-plus post bitch-and-moan-fest. I thought that it's been made perfectly clear in topics concerning Halo 2/Bioshock/LOZTP/*This spaced reserved any game with a number of fanatics* that there already is an appropriate place for this type of pointless conversation (http://$$$$$$$$$$$$/2sq). It's just madness to continue filling up this topic with mindless bashing.

[Zen Davis]

Dmaul - having played the game for a bit now, I'll be surprised if you don't like the new hunters. They're actually interesting. At least for what I've seen thus far. The only negative I've heard is that there is some kind of fetch quest towards the end of the game that drags the pacing down.

In another note - goddamn the first boss battle is awesome!

[dmaul1114]

Dmaul - having played the game for a bit now, I'll be surprised if you don't like the new hunters.

Oh, I'm sure they'll be fine as NPCs. I just wasn't big on the idea of playing as one of them in a future Metroid game rather than playing as Samus. More or less the same reason that playing as Raiden in MGS2 and as the Aribter in part of Halo 2 sucked--we play favorite series to play as the character we are used to.

[Zen Davis]

Oh, I'm sure they'll be fine as NPCs. I just wasn't big on the idea of playing as one of them in a future Metroid game rather than playing as Samus. More or less the same reason that playing as Raiden in MGS2 and as the Aribter in part of Halo 2 sucked--we play favorite series to play as the character we are used to.

The thing I like about them is that they're not worthless NPCs compared to the almighty Samus. They can hold their own in the Metroid universe from what I've seen thus far.

[jer7583]

Gamespot scores their games to keep their meager and ugly site in gamers' minds. I don't think they get linked to or break news anywhere near as much as the independent blogs and ign these days. They basically serve no purpose, as Gametrailers does much better video features, and the independent blogs provide much more timely and numerous updates.

[A Happy Panda]

Waahhh. GS gave my favorite game evar an 8.5. Oh sorry, I thought I was in the Bioshock thread. Fucking hell it's a goddamn number. If you like it, play it and fucking enjoy it.

I'm excited as hell to get it tomorrow, but am I going to let some number damper my spirits? hell no.

[daroga]

Should be ready to pickup after work today at Best Buy. Here's hoping for little to no homework on Day 1 of class! :D

[PyroGamer]

Whoa, Deja Vu. I feel like I'm in the BioShock thread all over again. Or a LoZ:TP thread.

Seriously guys, nobody gives a fuck about reviews.



I think I'm going to rent this game today with my half-price rentals. Anybody know how long it is?

[Monsta Mack]

Bishock > MP 3

;)

[PyroGamer]

Bishock > MP 3

;)
Hey, I'm up for some motion-control goodness about now.

[tayaf69]

Seriously, reviews mean nothing. In the end, it's the games sales that matter. I have a feeling MP3 will do very well.

[daroga]

I think I'm going to rent this game today with my half-price rentals. Anybody know how long it is?I think the GameTrailers review said ~20 hours, though I may just be making that up.

[botticus]

I think the GameTrailers review said ~20 hours, though I may just be making that up.I don't recall seeing a number, but apparently it's as long as the previous games (which I think are in the 20 hour range).

[fyffem]

I read that to daroga. It sounds to be about 20 hours of gameplay.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

I played MP3 for about an hour last night and I would say I easily spent 10 minutes of that scanning. I forgot how much of a scanning freak I am in those games. I'm pretty sure I missed some of the one-time scans as well. If you scan lore or creatures, you can get tokens for it. So if you are into scanning stuff, I think 20 hours is a pretty low estimate.

I was also surprised at the 360-like achivements that are in the game. I was battling a room full of little creatures and all of the sudden a message popped up saying that I had killed 100 creatures and it gave me a token for it.

[H-Town Info]

i can't wait to play this game today after class and work

[jer7583]

well of course I'm going to ignore the gamespot review and buy the game. I'm just pointing out that their shtick is wearing thin and making them extremely predictable on the low scores. It also turns me off to their site, although not as much as the design that hasn't much changed since 1999.

[Lan_Zer0]

I generally agree with IGN's Wii reviews. I find most Wii games very intuitive and fun to control. Gamespot reminds me more of a gamer that can't really get a handle on the motion controls.

This review in particular was pretty amusing because it sounded almost apologetic for the 8.5 score.

But in the end, we all know this is a great game, and I can't wait to get my hand on it. I've been supportive of FPS on Wii since day one (I even enjoyed Red Steel).

[Tybee]

The thing I like about them is that they're not worthless NPCs compared to the almighty Samus. They can hold their own in the Metroid universe from what I've seen thus far.
That's encouraging. I'm really curious about how the NPC bounty hunters (and the space marines) fit in in terms of the narrative and gameplay. One thing I'm really concerned about is that they'll use the old plot device of introducing all of these other bounty hunters only to have them get corrupted by Phazon or whatever and become bosses you eventually have to fight. It would be okay if they did that with some of them, but doing it with all would really be cliche.

[Zen Davis]

That's encouraging. I'm really curious about how the NPC bounty hunters (and the space marines) fit in in terms of the narrative and gameplay. One thing I'm really concerned about is that they'll use the old plot device of introducing all of these other bounty hunters only to have them get corrupted by Phazon or whatever and become bosses you eventually have to fight. It would be okay if they did that with some of them, but doing it with all would really be cliche.
.......

:roll:

[CoffeeEdge]

I think Gamespot just hates Wii games. I'm predicting that they'll give Mario Galaxy an 8.4. :(

[Zen Davis]

I think Gamespot just hates Wii games. I'm predicting that they'll give Mario Galaxy an 8.4. :(

I think it would get a 9.

[dmaul1114]

1up gave it a 9.0. No bitching. Gamespot gives it an 8.5, a whole, fucking 1/2 point lower and theres a rebellion.

LOL

Have to love the internet gamer nerds.

[daroga]

IGN gave it a 9.5

[Tybee]

IGN gave it a 9.0. No bitching. Gamespot gives it an 8.5, a whole, fucking 1/2 point lower and theres a rebellion.

LOL

Have to love the internet gamer nerds.

Actually, IGN gave it a 9.5.

As usual, somewhere between IGN's slathering enthusiasm and GameSpot's embittered venom lies truth.

[Strell]

I still say for Wii reviews that there needs to be a "How Much I Suck at this Game" score somewhere, because I'm willing to bet there's a correlation.

[Lan_Zer0]

I still say for Wii reviews that there needs to be a "How Much I Suck at this Game" score somewhere, because I'm willing to bet there's a correlation.

Yes, I cannot agree more. Just take a look at SSX Blur reviews. I'm not sure about other people, but I have almost no problem pulling off uber tricks.

[hhhdx4]

How long does the game run?

[Lan_Zer0]

From the reviews, it seems that a straight run through the game will be around 20 hours.