Metroid Prime 3 - Do Mother Brains' Have PMS? - 9.5 From IGN!

[trq]

Gamespot just likes to fight the power.

I quit caring for them long ago when the lowered the Devil May Cry 3 score because it was too hard for the guy reviewing it.

Really? That's weak sauce. That game stands as the perfect example of how to do a "hard" game right, in my book.

I do think their Twilight Princess score was right though.

Clam up, you. *shakes fist threateningly* Don't you not have a Wii?

[Foo228]

Looks sweet but I've only played the 2D Metroids...

Sounds like a good rental for now though

[WiiGame]

I still say for Wii reviews that there needs to be a "How Much I Suck at this Game" score somewhere, because I'm willing to bet there's a correlation.

yeah... i think gamespot does that alot... when they can't seem to own they always lower ratings

[Zen Davis]

Fuck. And I'm stuck.

[jollydwarf]

IGN: 9.5. Gamespot: 8.5.

Like I said.... (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3285086#post3285086)

[Tybee]

IGN: 9.5. Gamespot: 8.5.

Like I said.... (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3285086#post3285086)

It's easy to say "I told you so" if you only pop your head in here when you're right. :roll:

You were pretty scarce round these parts when your prediction that either MP3, Brawl, or Galaxy would get a release date next year proved false, among others.

[maigoyume]

IGN: 9.5. Gamespot: 8.5.

Like I said.... (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3285086#post3285086)oh, thats a pretty efficient method, GS tends to be uber critical from what i've gathered, and i just don't like IGN for some reason, might be because of matt though

[dmaul1114]

Actually, IGN gave it a 9.5.

As usual, somewhere between IGN's slathering enthusiasm and GameSpot's embittered venom lies truth.


Sorry, I meant 1up. Edited above post. IGN I pay no attention to when it's Matt as he's too much of a Nintendo Fanboy to bother listening to. Just like Shane Bettenhausen with any big Sony releases.

[whoknows]

Clam up, you. *shakes fist threateningly* Don't you not have a Wii?
I do have a GC though, and TP

[Apossum]

8.5 lol I'm smashing my wii with a sledgehammer. by which I mean I'm picking up a copy of MP3 today or tomorrow.

[gunm]

Bah, I caved to the hype and ordered a copy through Deep Discount.

Was never a fan of the "Prime" series, but it looks like it won't be denied this time.

[Mr Durand Pierre]

Last night the girl at my EB didn't believe me when I told her it was the official release date. She said they didn't have it yet, but even if they did, she wouldn't be able to sell it to me until Tues. I'm not sure that I believed her with the "didn't have it yet" part.

But I finally picked it up today and I have the whole day set aside to play it. good times are a comin'!

[clockworkgreen]

Bah, I caved to the hype and ordered a copy through Deep Discount.

Was never a fan of the "Prime" series, but it looks like it won't be denied this time.

I ordered through them, too, but it's now backordered.

Thinking I'm going to go pick it up a Costco and send it back to DD when it gets here.

[trq]

I do have a GC though, and TP

Right-o then. I guess this would be where you get to say: "Check and mate, Mr. Torque."

8.5 lol I'm smashing my wii with a sledgehammer. by which I mean I'm picking up a copy of MP3 today or tomorrow.

This is why I'm a big believer in GameRankings. The averaged scores tend to be pretty accurate as far as putting a number to quality, in my experience -- it helps to even out the freak highs and lows.

[whoknows]

Right-o then. I guess this would be where you get to say: "Check and mate, Mr. Torque."
As long as you know I don't need to say it ;)

TP is a great game...just not a game that deserves a perfect or near perfect score since well...no game is perfect IMO.

[dmaul1114]

This is why I'm a big believer in GameRankings. The averaged scores tend to be pretty accurate as far as putting a number to quality, in my experience -- it helps to even out the freak highs and lows.

Yep. I always use them for games and Rotten Tomatoes or other meta critic sites for movies.

One person's opinion is pretty useless to me, but I'll put some stock in across the aboard averages or percentages of thumbs up/thumbs down when on the fence as my tastes don't deviate from the majority too often--at least aside from whole genres of games/films I have no interest in.

[FriskyTanuki]

Wow. MP3 gets great scores and people are bitching that they're not great enough?

"GameSpot gave it an 8.5, so they must be wrong and/or craving attention. It couldn't possibly be the reviewer's opinion."

[Swingman]

Wow. MP3 gets great scores and people are bitching that they're not great enough?

"GameSpot gave it an 8.5, so they must be wrong and/or craving attention. It couldn't possibly be the reviewer's opinion."

I think the complaints about the review are more about how the reviewer is flip flopping on why that game isn't great. He says it's familiarity is a negative and then goes on to say how much it has strayed from things that made the Metroids good.

So which is it? Is it too much like the old metroids or is it too different? You can't use both as negatives IMO without contradicting yourself and losing all credibility..

I just got it today and I have to say it's a great game. It's the first 3D metroid I've played so I can't compare it to the others but it's fun.

[jollydwarf]

The Gamerankings and the Rotten Tomatoes of the web tend to minimize the impact of the grudge-having and the, ahem, 'well-greased', as well as people just having anomalous tastes and/or a bad day.

[FriskyTanuki]

I think the complaints about the review are more about how the reviewer is flip flopping on why that game isn't great. He says it's familiarity is a negative and then goes on to say how much it has strayed from things that made the Metroids good.

So which is it? Is it too much like the old metroids or is it too different? You can't use both as negatives IMO without contradicting yourself and losing all credibility..

I just got it today and I have to say it's a great game. It's the first 3D metroid I've played so I can't compare it to the others but it's fun.
I haven't seen much of anybody actually discussing the content of the review, just the assumption that it's because GameSpot's trying to be tough on games.

[evilmax17]

I haven't seen much of anybody actually discussing the content of the review, just the assumption that it's because GameSpot's trying to be tough on games.
To be fair, this stereotype didn't come out of nowhere. They usually rate games at or below the critical average, and now it's come to be expected. It does begin to look odd when Gamespot is consistently on the lower end of the spectrum.

[A Happy Panda]

I think the complaints about the review are more about how the reviewer is flip flopping on why that game isn't great. He says it's familiarity is a negative and then goes on to say how much it has strayed from things that made the Metroids good.

So which is it? Is it too much like the old metroids or is it too different? You can't use both as negatives IMO without contradicting yourself and losing all credibility..

I just got it today and I have to say it's a great game. It's the first 3D metroid I've played so I can't compare it to the others but it's fun.

Where is that in the text review? I only watched the video review, and he never seemed to contradict himself. I'm just curious.

[Swingman]

I haven't seen much of anybody actually discussing the content of the review, just the assumption that it's because GameSpot's trying to be tough on games.

Maybe so but it would be nice to know what the reviewer's actual opinion is given his flip flopping. Like many of the reviewers out there for the different sites, I think he just had diarrhea of the mouth (typing a lot without really saying much) and knew he had to come up with some negatives to justify the score. I don't really care in the long run because I got the game and am enjoying it thoroughly so far.

I think a game that got the opposite treatment is Madden 08 for the DS. They gave it a 8.0 when the game is obviously broken (ie franchise mode is unplayable). The game obviously shows lack of beta testing by EA and shows that the reviewers failed to test every feature the game claims to have included. For a broken game like Madden 08 on DS to get only 5 points lower than a great game like Metriod Prime 3 is a joke. Sure they're separate systems but being broken should worth at least 30% drop in the score.

WIth all the fanboys of systems out there, it makes you wonder if some of them actually get jobs reviewing games. With the some of the wacky scores I've seen during my time gaming, I'd have to think that some of the reviews are being written by people biased against the system.

[Zen Davis]

So for the people who picked up the game? What do you think?

[FriskyTanuki]

To be fair, this stereotype didn't come out of nowhere. They usually rate games at or below the critical average, and now it's come to be expected. It does begin to look odd when Gamespot is consistently on the lower end of the spectrum.
Strange, I usually hear of 1up and EGM when I hear of that kind of thing, but then again, the crappy community of GS/GameFAQs will go nuts about anything and think they are allowed to dictate the scores that GS gives.

[io]

It's easy to say "I told you so" if you only pop your head in here when you're right. :roll:

You were pretty scarce round these parts when your prediction that either MP3, Brawl, or Galaxy would get a release date next year proved false, among others.

:applause:

Yeah, JD was mysteriously absent around E3, wasn't he?

Anyway, I want to get the game now but should work for a bit. Hopefully I can head out this evening and get it. I did finally get my call from Aeris.

[Sir_Fragalot]

Hmm I am not trusting that 8.5 gamespot review, not that I am a Nintendo fanboy, but more so I never read any of this guy's reviews or seen him on any of the gamespot live programs so I don't know, plus most of the games he reviewed were crappy games or ports. If Gerstmann or someone like Alex Navarro or someone did the review and gave it a 8.5 I would accept and understand it but I don't trust him. Anyway I am still excited for the game and should get it hopefully this weekend, can't wait to play it.

[dmaul1114]

To be fair, this stereotype didn't come out of nowhere. They usually rate games at or below the critical average, and now it's come to be expected. It does begin to look odd when Gamespot is consistently on the lower end of the spectrum.


I don't find it odd, I just assume there reviewers are a bit tougher on handing out 9's and 10's. Which they should be as games in those score ranges should rank among the all time best games. And there are really only 1 or 2 games year (if that) worthy of consideration in all time top 10, 20 etc. lists.

That, or their just jaded gamers constantly questioning why they are still playing games like myself. ;)

[bluesyncopate]

The problem with Gamespot isn't their scores. I wish more sites had a more reasonable rating system, rather than handing out 9.5+ scores like candy. 8.5 is a perfectly respectable score... for Gamespot. Why is anyone surprised? If we're grading on a curve, that's certainly an "A" by their standards.

The real problem with Gamespot is their review style. They like to think of themselves as "defenders of true objective game criticism", but I think that in trying hard to be "objective", their reviewers lack a sense of fun or enthusiasm for the games they review.

Honestly, a game could get a 9.5 and the summary would read: "A worthy title, worth at least few hours of your time." Honestly, guys, put a little more HEART into it! While sites like IGN tend to a gush a bit, and inflate scores, if a game is top-tier I WANT to hear the "gushing".

They're aware that other sites will gush with certain games, so they try too hard to keep their enthusiasm in check for the sake of "critical objectivity". It makes their reviews not-so-fun to read, even when they're "right".


That said, while I thought Gerstmann's actual text review of Zelda: TP was pretty lifeless and dull, I thought his 8.8 score was right on the money.

[A Happy Panda]

Hmm I am not trusting that 8.5 gamespot review, not that I am a Nintendo fanboy, but more so I never read any of this guy's reviews or seen him on any of the gamespot live programs so I don't know, plus most of the games he reviewed were crappy games or ports. If Gerstmann or someone like Alex Navarro or someone did the review and gave it a 8.5 I would accept and understand it but I don't trust him. Anyway I am still excited for the game and should get it hopefully this weekend, can't wait to play it.

You must not visit Gamespot a lot. He's on The Hot Spot and On the Spot on a semi-regular basis, and is one of the main hosts for Tournament TV.

Also, not "trusting" reviews. WTF does that mean. Is his review simply full of lies or something?

Everyone's acting like the review is hating on the game with an 8.5 score. Have you guys even read the review? Or at least watched the video? He gives the game a ton of praise where it's due.

But I agree with the bluesyncopate. GS editors never try to gush, which I appreciate, they're very cut and dry, but if you watch their live segments, or listen to the podcast, I think they're one of the funnier sites out there. Other sites write as though they work for the various developers marketing departments.

Also again, can someone show me the contradition in the review? I just read the text one. There's only like one line that could possibly be interpreted as contradiction, and that's the part where Kevin VanOrd says its more the of the same, with new controls, only easier.

[Tybee]

oh, thats a pretty efficient method, GS tends to be uber critical from what i've gathered, and i just don't like IGN for some reason, might be because of matt though

True, but I do have to give him props for bringing much-needed attention to Zack & Wiki (and, arguably, to MP3).

[jollydwarf]

Yeah, JD was mysteriously absent around E3, wasn't he?

I was--no lie--staying off message boards in July to avoid the assholes that would, using ambush tactics, spoil a certain novel being released that month. Turns out I made the right call. Had I been around after the announcement of Wii Fit, however...

I was also detoxing a bit from this site. Now I'm a 'social poster'.*

*--In the 'social drinker' sense, not in the "I want to be your friend" sense. Of course.

[Legendaryhedgehog06]

Put in a few hours so far and HOLY CRAP is this game awesome. Seriously, the graphics, just the scope of everything is just phenomenal. Zelda I think has lost its place as killer app for Wii.

[Strell]

[i]not in the "I want to be your friend" sense. Of course.

Of course.

[lanzarlaluna]

Hmm I am not trusting that 8.5 gamespot review, not that I am a Nintendo fanboy, but more so I never read any of this guy's reviews or seen him on any of the gamespot live programs so I don't know, plus most of the games he reviewed were crappy games or ports.Lots of ports, yes. Mostly crappy games, no.

http://www.gamespot.com/users/Kevin-V/contributions

[Dr Mario Kart]

Being here less DOES reduce the number of times you are wrong.

[jollydwarf]

Wrong. Disagreed with. Disputed. Offended by.

Syntax. Same difference, I guess.

EDIT: vvvvv...Where am I trying to be "funny", especially as of late? You see it like you wanna see, I guess.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure my presence will be virtually nonexistent here in September, as it's pennant race crunchtime, and I'm pretty confident that the same dickweeds that tried to ruin Deathly Hallows for everyone will be spilling the Halo 3 narrative beans just as soon as they can. Anywhere and everywhere. So, yeah, you're welcome.

Never seen so many people get so bent out of shape about a guy who's an infrequent poster that only says something truly incendiary about 20% of the time.

[Tybee]

You must not visit Gamespot a lot. He's on The Hot Spot and On the Spot on a semi-regular basis, and is one of the main hosts for Tournament TV.

Also, not "trusting" reviews. WTF does that mean. Is his review simply full of lies or something?
My fundamental problem was not the score. In general, I agree that there is far too much score inflation in video game reviews. I think in the reviewers' minds (and in the minds of the people who read them), the ratings correspond with the grades of high school term papers. There, an 85, or a solid B, WOULD be a bit of a slight if you were hoping for an A. But I don't think games can be reviewed like papers or tests can be graded. For reviews, they shouldn't be afraid to make use of more of that 10-point scale.

My problem with the GameSpot review was the complaints about lack of multiplayer. Anyone who reviews a Metroid game and docks it for failing to include multiplayer demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of the franchise. Period. It's like faulting Tiger Woods golf for not letting you drive the cart.

[munch]

Wrong. Disagreed with. Disputed. Offended by.

Syntax. Same difference, I guess.

Seriously, jollydwarf, please go away. You're like Regalsin except he wasn't trying to be funny and was, while you try to be funny and aren't. No one, and I mean NO ONE, wants you here. You are a narcissistic, back pedaling, jerk-off that comes off as smug rather than witty. Go back to your cave, if, for nothing else, the sake of CAG.

[Swingman]

So for the people who picked up the game? What do you think?

Pretty good so far. Took me a couple tries to get past the first couple boss battles.

I probably made Samus look drunk when I started out because I wasn't quite used to the controls. I couldn't walk a straight line if I wanted to. I'm getting better though. I'm having a few issues with lock-on staying on the target. It might just be the free aiming thing and lock-on breaks up if you aim too far away from target. Still getting to use to the controls.

Overall I am enjoying the game.

[Sir_Fragalot]

Lots of ports, yes. Mostly crappy games, no.

http://www.gamespot.com/users/Kevin-V/contributionsFirst off I never heard of this guy and after looking at that list again (first time a breif skim through) yeah it is mostly rpg games that are good, and some other games like c&c 3 but not a lot of fps's. Anyway the last couple of times I read s reviews from a GS reviewer that I never heard of the game tended to be way better imo than what the reviewer made it look to be so I am kinda fishy of those reviewers I never heard of. Also I never did notice him on the GS live programs unless I am that much of a fucking dumbass to realize it, lol.

[The Crotch]

People, please. Look at Jollydwarf's custom user title. "Bane of Fanboys". Can't you just see him sitting at his keyboard now? Freshly washed red cape draped over his chair, fingers furiously pounding away at his keyboard trying to defend inoccent forums from fanboys (anyone who disagrees with him) while still maintaining an air of cool detachment. Pointing out the flaws in his posts just reinforces his humanity's-last-line-of-defence mindset. No use getting angry at him for this - as soon as he believes he has struck a mortal blow for truth and justice, our own littlest hobo abandons the thread. When and where will he appear again? Nobody knows. The only we can say for sure is that it will be fucking retarded.

I haven't seen much of anybody actually discussing the content of the review, just the assumption that it's because GameSpot's trying to be tough on games.Check the early-700-post discussions for that sort of thing. We got a little sidetracked after that.

[A Happy Panda]

My fundamental problem was not the score. In general, I agree that there is far too much score inflation in video game reviews. I think in the reviewers' minds (and in the minds of the people who read them), the ratings correspond with the grades of high school term papers. There, an 85, or a solid B, WOULD be a bit of a slight if you were hoping for an A. But I don't think games can be reviewed like papers or tests can be graded. For reviews, they shouldn't be afraid to make use of more of that 10-point scale.

My problem with the GameSpot review was the complaints about lack of multiplayer. Anyone who reviews a Metroid game and docks it for failing to include multiplayer demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of the franchise. Period. It's like faulting Tiger Woods golf for not letting you drive the cart.

=/

While the lack of multiplayer is disappointing, the single-player campaign won't leave you wanting. In the end, you may not be able to shake the feeling that you've done all this before, but it will still make you grateful for how great it is at its core.

Literally the very last sentence of the very last paragraph at the very end of the review bothered you? I also think it's a complaint worth mentioning, since MP2 had a multiplayer mode, but obviously it wasn't a complaint worth going into. It's the last sentence of the review!

Also, can you clarify what you mean by making more use of that 10 point scale?
And I do agree with you about the letter grade mentality, I'm guilty of it as well. However, it's pretty hard to differentiate the two, if not impossible.

[zerowing]

Just bought it, but now I'm stuck in an argument over multiplayer in Metroid so I haven't played yet.

This wasn't one of my top games but I decided to bite and get it anyway.

[Zen Davis]

Holy crap. Get over the goddamn Gamespot review and play the goddamn game.

[jer7583]

why do people assume that complaining about the gamespot review=thinking the gamespot review has any credibility/effect on enjoyment/ability to play the game?

Gamespot sucks, Metroid rules.

[Swingman]

anyone else stuck on the 2nd planet?

I think i spent 15 minutes trying to get the missile upgrade and I still don't know how to get it.

[magnification]

Am I the only one who is stuck at the first switch where you have to pull it back and twist it counter-clockwise. I've twised the fucking wii mote every way possible and it still isn't working

[buffdrew84]

very sweet game. Makes me wonder why other games look so shitty when the wii is capable of graphics this good.

[SpazX]

Nice game, finished the first mission and just got the PED suit . Pretty great so far, getting used to the controls will take a little time, but I'm pretty good at it already. Not used to having to aim at enemies :-P.

[ecmazza]

what a great game so far...I too am just starting out...but whoa-mamma!!

also, since this is the first real Wii game I have played (skipped Zelda, and otherwise played Trauma Center, but only for short bursts, one level here, one level there) for long sessions, I am starting to get a little sore. Lame I know, but just in my forearm, not used to holding a controller like this for so long, etc.

And yes, I realize I have left myself open to lots of jokes about sore forearms, holding a controller, etc....that was not my point, but I realize I left the barn door open...

[LinkinPrime]

Wow, I came in here to check out impressions and all I see is bitching...tempted to delete a few posts but turns out it ends up being a page or so. :roll:

I skipped on Metroid 2, part one was great...I'll have to check this one out when I get a chance.

[Purple Flames]

very sweet game. Makes me wonder why other games look so shitty when the wii is capable of graphics this good.

You can chalk that up to lazy developers. They can make a game that looks just as good if not better than MP3, but they prefer to just slap a minigame together to make a quick buck.

You guys have me wanting to run out and buy this asap, but I think I'll be patient and wait until I beat the first two games before I tackle Corruption.

[whoknows]

Badass game.

The Battle where you're falling and fighting Ridley was so awesome

[Zen Davis]

anyone else stuck on the 2nd planet?

I think i spent 15 minutes trying to get the missile upgrade and I still don't know how to get it.

Which one is it?

[Zen Davis]

Am I the only one who is stuck at the first switch where you have to pull it back and twist it counter-clockwise. I've twised the fucking wii mote every way possible and it still isn't working

Pull back. Turn Counter-clockwise. Push back in.

[FriskyTanuki]

Hmm I am not trusting that 8.5 gamespot review, not that I am a Nintendo fanboy, but more so I never read any of this guy's reviews or seen him on any of the gamespot live programs so I don't know, plus most of the games he reviewed were crappy games or ports. If Gerstmann or someone like Alex Navarro or someone did the review and gave it a 8.5 I would accept and understand it but I don't trust him. Anyway I am still excited for the game and should get it hopefully this weekend, can't wait to play it.
I've worked with KTVO and he's good at his job. Everybody gets crappy reviews at first when they start working at a new site, he's no different. He's been there for awhile now, so he's getting the better reviews now along with more exposure on On the Spot along with being pretty much one of the main hosts of Tourney TV.

Swingman, I don't see these flip-flops you're going on about. He basically says that MP3's more of a great FPS than a great Metroid game. And that, overall, it's easier than the previous Prime games, but it's still a lot of fun. Why are you comparing Metroid and Madden DS? They're completely different games. There's no comparison to be made.

[Zen Davis]

There is a spot on Bryyo after you fight the two lizard creatures for the first time.

Bomb everything in the very next section old school Metroid style.

[Brak]

People don't have jollydwarf on their ignore lists?

[daroga]

Well, I just got the chance to play through the first boss. One word sums up my impressions thus far: wow. I was almost out of my seat fighting the first boss. Bravo, Retro, bravo. I can imagine I've got one helluva game ahead of me.

I was worried about playing BioShock and MP3 together, but they're about as different as can be and still be in the FPS category.

Anyone switch the jump/shoot buttons? I'm wondering if that would feel better, but part of me wonders if there isn't a good reason why they opted to have A be the default shoot button.

[The Crotch]

I dislike using my ignore list. I did put someone on the other day for giving away the ending to God of War 2 (strike that one off my WTTF list...), but it feels unnecessary for someone who posts so sporadically.

Now I've gotta find the cheapest source for Metroid online. Does Liongames ship to Canada?

[whoknows]

Well, I just got the chance to play through the first boss. One word sums up my impressions thus far: wow. I was almost out of my seat fighting the first boss. Bravo, Retro, bravo. I can imagine I've got one helluva game ahead of me.

I was worried about playing BioShock and MP3 together, but they're about as different as can be and still be in the FPS category.

Anyone switch the jump/shoot buttons? I'm wondering if that would feel better, but part of me wonders if there isn't a good reason why they opted to have A be the default shoot button.
I switched them when I was playing today. Felt better that way to me.

[evilmax17]

Is anybody not using Advanced sensitivity? Just got the missiles, and so far it's pretty good. I find that aiming is a bit easier with Standard sensitivity, but turning is easier on Advanced, so I think I'll stick with that.

[Swingman]

I've worked with KTVO and he's good at his job. Everybody gets crappy reviews at first when they start working at a new site, he's no different. He's been there for awhile now, so he's getting the better reviews now along with more exposure on On the Spot along with being pretty much one of the main hosts of Tourney TV.

Swingman, I don't see these flip-flops you're going on about. He basically says that MP3's more of a great FPS than a great Metroid game. And that, overall, it's easier than the previous Prime games, but it's still a lot of fun. Why are you comparing Metroid and Madden DS? They're completely different games. There's no comparison to be made.

Read the review again if you didn't see any flip flops. Under the Bad it says "Doesn't do much different than the previous two Metroid Prime games." and he said in the last paragraph in the review that it is exactly what Metroid fans would expect (meaning more of the same). Contradicting that, he states this game has turned Metroid into a FPS with trimmings and how the game is easier and more streamline. So, is it the same or is it watered down metroid? Can he use both as a negative?

I didn't compare metroid to madden DS. I was using it as an example to illustrate bad review scoring. I thought that was kinda obvious. If was trying to compare the games, then I would have said "man, shooting enemies on metroid is very similar to passing the ball in madden" lol

[hack]

Just picked up my copy. I'm so psyched to play it. Just the opening screen alone gives me goosebumps.

Also, odd, but I thought that my Wii was already completely up to date, yet MP3 updated my system again. Oh well.

[Swingman]

Just picked up my copy. I'm so psyched to play it. Just the opening screen alone gives me goosebumps.

Also, odd, but I thought that my Wii was already completely up to date, yet MP3 updated my system again. Oh well.

my wii got updated too but I haven't turned it on in a few days so didn't know if it was connected to putting in the metroid disc or not.

[bill123]

Quick question for you seasoned metroid gamers. I really want to give this game a go and it looks fantastic but I haven't played the other two on the gamecube. So do I need to play the first two before this to understand the story or does it really matter? I mean I plan on playing them at some point but if jumping into corruption now will just leave me confused then I'll probably wait.

thanks,
bill123

[whoknows]

Quick question for you seasoned metroid gamers. I really want to give this game a go and it looks fantastic but I haven't played the other two on the gamecube. So do I need to play the first two before this to understand the story or does it really matter? I mean I plan on playing them at some point but if jumping into corruption now will just leave me confused then I'll probably wait.

thanks,
bill123
The Prime games aren't very story driven so...you'll be fine. Just read wiki or something on the first two. MP3 is all crazy since it has voice acting and actual cutscenes, so it will be giving you the most story.

[FriskyTanuki]

Read the review again if you didn't see any flip flops. Under the Bad it says "Doesn't do much different than the previous two Metroid Prime games." and he said in the last paragraph in the review that it is exactly what Metroid fans would expect (meaning more of the same). Contradicting that, he states this game has turned Metroid into a FPS with trimmings and how the game is easier and more streamline. So, is it the same or is it watered down metroid? Can he use both as a negative?
I don't need to read it to know that that's not a flip-flop. "Doesn't do much different than the previous two Metroid Prime games." means that it's more of the same, as far as the Metroid Prime games go. They're largely interchangeable, so if I've played just Metroid Prime, I'll definitely be able to jump into the third game and not have too much trouble adapting. That "more of the same" feeling, however, is what Metroid fans want, so he's suggesting that if that's what you want, you'll be happy, but he probably expected a little more than that when he played it.

The FPS statement's easy. Metroid Prime wasn't far from being an FPS, but it had enough of a focus on adventure and exploration that kept it from feeling like an FPS in Metroid's clothing. MP3 leans more closely to the FPS side, but not enough that it's an FPS in Metroid's clothing. Here's the whole paragraph explaining that:

Suffice it to say, Metroid Prime 3 takes on characteristics more akin to a standard first-person shooter than its predecessors did. The good news is that moving about is less frustrating and plodding than before. Your enemies fall faster, boss encounters require less controller fumbling, and there is an overall ease to travel and movement that the series lacked before. It's a double-edged sword, however, because while most Metroid Prime hallmarks--object scanning, careful exploration, complex puzzle-solving--remain, Corruption feels less like a probing adventure than a regular shooter.

He said it's more of an FPS than the other two Prime games in the controls/gameplay department, but it's still fun enough that it's not a big deal. The ease is noticeable, but the game's fun enough that it doesn't hurt the enjoyment of the game.

I didn't compare metroid to madden DS. I was using it as an example to illustrate bad review scoring. I thought that was kinda obvious. If was trying to compare the games, then I would have said "man, shooting enemies on metroid is very similar to passing the ball in madden" lol
You didn't compare them? You sure had me fooled:

I think a game that got the opposite treatment is Madden 08 for the DS. They gave it a 8.0 when the game is obviously broken (ie franchise mode is unplayable). The game obviously shows lack of beta testing by EA and shows that the reviewers failed to test every feature the game claims to have included. For a broken game like Madden 08 on DS to get only 5 points lower than a great game like Metriod Prime 3 is a joke. Sure they're separate systems but being broken should worth at least 30% drop in the score.
You said that there's no way Madden for the DS should have been scored .5 points less than Metroid Prime 3, which is comparing the two games directly.

lol

But seriously, we need to get down the real injustice. Why is Metroid Prime 3 only 1 point higher than Rune Factory?! That's just impossible to comprehend how they could do that.

[The Crotch]

Metroid Prime 1 sets up the story very well (and has a suprisingly large amount of it for us scanners). Metroid Prime 2 has no story whatsoever.

[Callandor]

Holy crap. Get over the goddamn Gamespot review and play the goddamn game.

QFT. Play it and come to your own opinions.

And for those reviewers complaining it was too easy, put it on Veteran to start. I haven't been this challenged in a Prime game since the last THREE (dur, forgot that damn Phazon Elite...) boss fights of the first game and the final boss of Echoes. Very strategic boss fights that require quick thinking and good aim.

The first boss fight against a corrupted hunter pwned me twice before I figured out what to do (hint, notice the graphical change in the boss when he gets very low on health, and take a good guess what you need). And I barely beat Meta Ridley with less than 500 meters left! 8-)

Damn impressive so far. The advanced controls work beautifully, but I can see where the minor motion control failure complaints came from, and I'd like if if the sensitivity were just a little lower. Oh, and trying to lock on to an enemy can be a pain sometimes, especially in close quarters against bosses, but works well for the most part. I just need more practice. 5 hours today isn't enough to master this. :D

[jer7583]

I only played about 15 min today (waiting to get an adapter to run headphones through the big TV in the house) but I'm very impressed by the graphics, controls, and high action feel of the game.

Additionally, there are a ton of things to scan, but I don't feel too bad about skipping most of it. Maybe someday I'll scan everything.

[Zen Davis]

I love the look of Bryyno. The notion of planets chained to one another is breathtaking.

[evilmax17]

Tip for those who are having trouble with the gesture interactions:

It doesn't seem to be based on the Wii Remote's accelerometers at all, but solely on the IR pointer.

I kept having trouble pushing and pulling the various switches, but it was because I was treating it as if the game was looking for the actual motion. If you keep the remote pointed at the sensor bar while you push/pull, it should work much better.

[SpazX]

Anybody want some friend vouchers? I dunno if it'll give me the credit if I send to somebody without the game....how exactly do those work?

[Swingman]

Here's the excerpt from IGN about friend vouchers

"Metroid Prime 3 features a very welcomed rewards system that some have compared to achievements on Xbox Live. As you progress through the game, you earn Samus medals for accomplishing various goals, from 500 kills to beating certain enemies and scanning items. There are differently colored medals for your various successes, and you can use combos of these achievements to buy special unlockable extras -- concept art, music, storyboards, stickers and bobbleheads, and even a screenshot tool that enables you to (by pressing up on the D-Pad) snap in-game photos and send them to friends over WiiConnect24. The game also uses WiiConnect24 to let you trade friend vouchers with players you've already added to your Wii system address book. Friend vouchers can be converted into friend credits, which are also utilized -- in combination with the other medals -- to unlock the extras. Indeed, the best extras can only be purchased if you trade friend vouchers with your buddies. For the purposes of our hands-on update (and eventually our review), we traded vouchers with our friends at GameSpy, and then we converted those vouchers into friend credits to buy, for example, the screenshot tool." - IGN - http://wii.ign.com/articles/814/814436p2.html

guess people will have to start adding either other to their wii address book.

[Sofa King Kool]

I need to know!

In order to play Corruption, would I have had to play Prime and Echoes? Does the story build off of those two games? I might be picking this up tomorrow, but I probably shouldn't until I know for sure.

[evilmax17]

Haha! Iwata makes a guest appearance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTSLDsRE2Os

[SpazX]

no clue how the friend vouchers work. In options, you have to turn it on in wiiconnect24 for some reason (guessing so friends can see you have metriod???)

Yeah I'm guessing that's so that it shows up black in the friend voucher section.

I just sent one to botticus, I'll see how it goes.

[whoknows]

I need to know!

In order to play Corruption, would I have had to play Prime and Echoes? Does the story build off of those two games? I might be picking this up tomorrow, but I probably shouldn't until I know for sure.
Just read wiki on the first 2 games. Not much story on them. The main thing that connects them is Dark Samus aka Metroid Prime AFAIK

[maigoyume]

Anybody want some friend vouchers? I dunno if it'll give me the credit if I send to somebody without the game....how exactly do those work?i'll take one tm when i get the game 8-)

[Swingman]

I'm selling friend vouchers for $5 :)

[clockworkgreen]

Very fun so far. Just got through the first boss and halfway through level 2.

This is my first Wii active game, aside from Sports. TP is in the mail and the other game i have is SPM. Having these types of controls is awesome, really. And so far, aside from a sore thumb, it's been very exciting.

I don't have any friend's with Wiis, so if anyone wants to add my console, I'll do the same for some voucher action.

[FriskyTanuki]

I'm selling friend vouchers for $5 :)
When does the friend voucher trading begin? And I mean the kind that involves one person's vouchers being worth more than the other's vouchers.

[dmaul1114]

Played for 2 1/2 hours, saved right after getting the PED suit.

Pretty Awesome so far would be my summary, but I'll post some early pros and cons below.

Pros:

-Aiming works well most of the time
-Graphics are very good, nice to finally have a Wii game that looks better than a GC or PS2 game
-Great art design
-Voice acting adds a lot, as does the NPC interaction. Feels more like an epic Halo type of game
-The motion controls (doors, the lasso etc.) are very good and add to the immersion for me. Possibly the best use of motion controls yet IMO.

Cons:

-aspect ratio isn't true 16x9, so we get small black bars on all 4 sides on widescreen TVs
-Awkward button layout for missles (pretty much useless in the heat of battle being mapped to down)
- The -/+ buttons small and hard to use, but luckily don't have to use them in a hurry
-Aming is a bit shaky (or I am) makes it hard to hit enemies with charged up shots or missles

[Swingman]

i don't have much trouble hitting down since it's right above A. It's the plus, minus, 1 and 2 buttons that are awkward to me. But as you said, those buttons aren't needed when you're fighting.

frisky,
I was kidding about selling my vouchers. I'm guessing the trading begins when 2 people add each other and then go into the game and go into options to trade vouchers with friends.

[Zen Davis]

Cons:

-aspect ratio isn't true 16x9, so we get small black bars on all 4 sides on widescreen TVs
-Awkward button layout for missles (pretty much useless in the heat of battle being mapped to down)
-Aming is a bit shaky (or I am) makes it hard to hit enemies with charged up shots or missles

For the former, I don't have any black bars. For the latter two, you'll get better used to both as you play more.

[monkeydeew]

helllllllllllllllllllla dark just like 1 & 2. gotta up the brightness on the tv

[The Crotch]

I need to know!

In order to play Corruption, would I have had to play Prime and Echoes? Does the story build off of those two games? I might be picking this up tomorrow, but I probably shouldn't until I know for sure.I thought I responded to this, but I do not see my post.

Prime has a surprisingly large amount of story for us scan-lovers, and sets up the next two games quite well. You can skip Echoes. Nothing happens in it. At all.

[dmaul1114]

For the former, I don't have any black bars. For the latter two, you'll get better used to both as you play more.

Your TV probably has some overscan, it wouldn't take much as the black bars are very small--so it's a minor issue. But It was noted in one of the reviews and in post elsewhere, so they are there on many TVs.

We'll see on the others, I was getting a bit better with the charged shot, at least on enemies that weren't moving rapidly. I doubt I'll get used to the missles being on down though as my thumb doesn't reach it from the natural postion on the A button (either I have smaller hands than I thought or I hold the controller farther down the Remote than some do.

[dmaul1114]

I thought I responded to this, but I do not see my post.

Prime has a surprisingly large amount of story for us scan-lovers, and sets up the next two games quite well. You can skip Echoes. Nothing happens in it. At all.


Though I'd say the story overall is pretty shallow and generic, so one shouldn't feel compelled to even play the first.

I believe someone mention that there is a wikipedia page with a plot summary if someone feels the needs to catch up.

[dmaul1114]

helllllllllllllllllllla dark just like 1 & 2. gotta up the brightness on the tv


Didn't seem dark at all on my set (calibrated with Digital Video Essentials).

[FriskyTanuki]

frisky,
I was kidding about selling my vouchers. I'm guessing the trading begins when 2 people add each other and then go into the game and go into options to trade vouchers with friends.
I know.

[The Crotch]

Though I'd say the story overall is pretty shallow and generic, so one shouldn't feel compelled to even play the first.Bolshevism. How much did you scan? Because I can see disliking it if you don't want to take the extra 4.5 seconds to scan a computer...

[dmaul1114]

Bolshevism. How much did you scan? Because I can see disliking it if you don't want to take the extra 4.5 seconds to scan a computer...


I scanned most everything I could find, and read all the stuff.

The story wasn't terrible by any means, but this isn't an RPG. No one should be playing the Prime games FOR the story.

It's a servicable story, but I'd never tell someone they had to play the first 1 or 2 before playing MP3 just to know what's going on--the story just isn't' that involved or important IMO.

[The Crotch]

I'd never tell anyone to play anything just for the story. But it's a damn good game. The story's icing.

The reason I liked the story, by the way, was that it showed the origins of Samus better than any other game, Zero Mission included.

[dmaul1114]

Fair enough, I'd still encourage people to just jump in to MP3.

But then again, one might think MP1 and 2 suck if they get used to the controls in this and have to go back to the autoaim control of the first 2...so maybe best to check out the MP1 first.....

[Puzznic]

Your TV probably has some overscan, it wouldn't take much as the black bars are very small--so it's a minor issue. But It was noted in one of the reviews and in post elsewhere, so they are there on many TVs.

We'll see on the others, I was getting a bit better with the charged shot, at least on enemies that weren't moving rapidly. I doubt I'll get used to the missles being on down though as my thumb doesn't reach it from the natural postion on the A button (either I have smaller hands than I thought or I hold the controller farther down the Remote than some do.


I hold the remote the same way as you and I have the same problem with the down button.

They really should have designed the Wiimote with 2 big face buttons or 2 smaller buttons to the left and right of the A button.

[j.elles]

Really. I have no problem hitting the down dpad button. I have problems hitting left, right, and up naturally though. I can reach down very easily though. I think you need bigger hands, or hold the controller a little differently or soemthing.

Either way I played this morning before work. Immiedetly set it to advanced and put it on Veteran difficulty. My god the Berserker Lord, first boss, was challenging. He killed me like 7 times before I got him. Metroid Prime 1 and 2 had hard boss's but never that early. Very awesome. I pitty anyone playing this game on baby mode. I think some reviewers even did that as there reviews sounded like they did as I have no idea what there talking about and I logged 3.5 hours.

[Swingman]

baby mode? there's normal and hard from what I saw.

Personally, I just want to play through the game without have to fight each boss 7-10 times. After I get done, I might try the hard setting. For the most part, I wonder how different the settings could be given that most of the maps are about figuring out how to get from point A to point b.

[The Crotch]

You know, I'm a pretty small guy. Unfortunate genes, I guess, but that's not the point. The point is that you guys have got to have some sort of hand-shrinking disease not to be able to comfortably hit both down and "A" at the same time. My thumb rests on both when holding the remote.

[rickonker]

No one should be surprised when this game doesn't sell much better than MP or MP2. Those soccer moms still playing Wii Sports aren't going to buy this.

[A Happy Panda]

baby mode? there's normal and hard from what I saw.

Personally, I just want to play through the game without have to fight each boss 7-10 times. After I get done, I might try the hard setting. For the most part, I wonder how different the settings could be given that most of the maps are about figuring out how to get from point A to point b.

He's a self-proclaimed "gaming god" duh. His idea of fun is to die 7x at the first boss.

I just saved after the first boss as well. The controls take some getting used to still methinks. But my initial reaction? I want twin sticks. Hopefully this changes as I play more.

[j.elles]

A lot of odd people on here. Anyway if you play on easy mode for the controls and the difficulty the game will be way to easy since it autolocks on the enemy and there easy to kill.

All in all if you don't like the game and play it on that setting then I think you have that as you're reason. I played the game on advanced and on veteran from the outset. Turning is faster then on dual stick, especially strafe turning, and accuracy is much much higher. I also can hit the missle button easy personally and I got the scan visor switching instantly. Just hit minus and point up for scan and shoot to switch back to combat. I don't get why thats hard for some people.

Anyway thats my 2 cents. Some more reasons for why you initially don't like the controls would be nice A Happy Panda.

I personally think normal is easy and they left out normal. Easy is to easy. So thats where my comment on baby mode came from. That mode was built for the casuals who don't play games very much and the soccer moms. And I saw like 20 people at gamestop at noon today picking up Metroid Prime 3 and 4 of them were actually women so maybe they will pick it up...

Also Metroid Prime 1 and 2 sold about 2 million each so thats nothing to scoff at.

[KingBroly]

Wait until after the 2nd hour. You will be amazed.
This = Wii's Best Game

[Mr Durand Pierre]

I just beat the first boss on Byrra, and as I expected, the game really picks up after that army base level that starts with an N. I still say the beginning feels too much like Halo or something decidedly not Metroid, but once you reach the first planet and the game starts proper, it seems to be a worthy addition to the Prime cannon.

If the game continues at the rate it's going, I'm sure I'll have forgotten all about the lame opening hour by the time the end credits roll. I mean Twilight Princess might be my favorite game of all time and that game had a pretty poor opening with all it's talking and fishing and spending an hour and a half before you even get your sword. But it's still an amazing game and worth the slow opening. Prime 3 seems rather similar.

[io]

What, people don't like the first hour? I just played the first hour (well, actually, I watched as my son insisted on playing - guess I'll have to start my own game later ;)). I thought it looked pretty good. He had some trouble aiming but I started playing in the middle of a fight for the first time and I LOVE the way it controls. I'll have to spend more than 5 minutes with it, but looks pretty damn good to me so far.

Also the graphics - amazing. At first glance you could tell me this is a 360 game. They seem to have solved the issue of jaggies to a certain extent (they are still there but are not all I see like in Mario Party 8 and other games - the busier backgrounds may help too). Maybe the Wii is actually capable of anti-aliasing? Who knew?

[KingBroly]

The second hour is the major highlight for me. The cinematics are awesome. The smoothness is there. The controls are awesome, except for the pain in my right hand. And, the graphics are top notch for a Wii title. There are jaggies in 480p io, so don't get your hopes too high.

But still, this game puts Twilight Princess to SHAME. It put the entire Zelda team to SHAME.

[j.elles]

Game does look good. Up close not so much, but I mean really up close like standing an inch away from a door.. And a couple cut scenes look strange. The one with the ship entering the atmosphere for instance looked odd.

Other then that i'm really looking forward to later parts of the game. The videos i've seen of some of the particle effects, and organic looking levels look really interesting from the grainy tiny videos on gametrailers and such.

Also if you've actually played Metroid Prime 1 and 2 and not just seen videos of it you will notice the graphics immediatly despite what people have been saying. The detail and fluid animation due to the 60 FPS is really noticable. I also personally love the ship. Turning on the blast shields, weapons, manual thrusters, medical scanner, comm device, and such are fun. Overall what impress's me the most is that they havent reused anything so far to the extent other First Person games do. Every area looks and feels different.

This game kinda makes me hope for Call of Duty with that 32 player online. If it has this control scheme I might just have to pick it up on launch. Better yet would be a Metroid Prime Hunters for Wii that's akin to Battlefield or Team Fortress with the Jobs that can be different hunters intead. I'll keep dreaming I know but it IS possible.

[kmartbum001]

The phazon release is too cheap, it makes the game too easy. It is too tempting to use. I guess this is what drug addicts go through...if you got some drugs right in front of you, it is hard to resist.

[A Happy Panda]

A lot of odd people on here. Anyway if you play on easy mode for the controls and the difficulty the game will be way to easy since it autolocks on the enemy and there easy to kill.

All in all if you don't like the game and play it on that setting then I think you have that as you're reason. I played the game on advanced and on veteran from the outset. Turning is faster then on dual stick, especially strafe turning, and accuracy is much much higher. I also can hit the missle button easy personally and I got the scan visor switching instantly. Just hit minus and point up for scan and shoot to switch back to combat. I don't get why thats hard for some people.

Anyway thats my 2 cents. Some more reasons for why you initially don't like the controls would be nice A Happy Panda.

I personally think normal is easy and they left out normal. Easy is to easy. So thats where my comment on baby mode came from. That mode was built for the casuals who don't play games very much and the soccer moms. And I saw like 20 people at gamestop at noon today picking up Metroid Prime 3 and 4 of them were actually women so maybe they will pick it up...

Also Metroid Prime 1 and 2 sold about 2 million each so thats nothing to scoff at.

Well firstly I'd like to know where you got that information about normal mode. I've never ever heard that before, or are you just assuming? If it's true, that's news to me.

The placement of the buttons is completely fine. I have no issues reaching the down button. It's the actual aiming and moving that I'm having some hesitation about before fully praising the game.

Whenever I try looking up, the game seems to always want to force the screen down despite the fact that I'm holding my Wiimote in the same upward position. Kind of annoying when I'm looking up near the ceiling for stuff to scan.

When I'm walking, it seems like I'm looking diagonally but walking forward. This may have something to do with how my TV and Wii are calibrated, so IDK. But the center is not fixed (no duh) like a regular FPS like I'm used to.

When turning 180, it seems like I have to stay still because all of the turning is done with strictly the Wiimote, not in conjunction with the analog stick, like how other console FPSes use the twin sticks in conjunction with each other. This gives me a sense of vulnerability and lack of control because I feel that I have to stand still as I make this 180-turn around. Kind of annoying if you're in the middle of a fight and enemies are all around you.

Also when turning left and right and moving the cursor back in the center of the screen, I feel like the game really whips back into the center with an increased sensitivity. This is a little disorientating because I feel like the speed in which I'm turning left and right is a lot slower than this "whipping" speed when re-centering myself. This particularly reminds me of Hunters, the controls of which I found almost unplayable.

Lastly, I'm using completely default controls. So whenever I hit the Z button to center an enemy, my cursor is sometimes in a completely different location.

I really do hope that these issues I'm having are just apart of me getting used to the controls.

Also I hope no one asks if I play shooters a lot...it's my favorite genre.

[Robobandit]

Panda,

You may want to give the advanced sensitivity a whirl.. imho it is worlds more responsive than the default setup. Your view starts moving almost immediately when you move the remote.

Complete 180s still take a while, but with the advanced controls, it is possible to strafe around your opponents and shoot them with relative ease.

[A Happy Panda]

Panda,

You may want to give the advanced sensitivity a whirl.. imho it is worlds more responsive than the default setup. Your view starts moving almost immediately when you move the remote.

Complete 180s still take a while, but with the advanced controls, it is possible to strafe around your opponents and shoot them with relative ease.

I'll give that a shot tomorrow. That's actually awesome that you said that particular part too BTW, thanks. That was another issue I felt I was encountering but forgot to mention it.

[Robobandit]

yeah, advanced shrinks the bounding box to almost nothing.. the response can be disorienting if you are prone to motion sickness, but thankfully I am not :)

[SpazX]

I played standard for about half an hour and it didn't seem that terrible, but advanced is definitely faster (and therefore better). It is weird to have the lock move the screen and then you're pointing the reticle in a completely different spot than where you were before, but I'm getting used to it.

To j.elles, normal mode doesn't have an autolock btw. If you're talking about the lock-on like in MP1 and 2 you can turn that on or off in either difficulty. I'd have to fight more bosses to see if normal is really any easier than the normal difficulty on MP1 and 2 (Could you even pick a mode at the beginning of those? I don't remember if it just went to normal and you got hard after beating it once or if that was super hard that was unlocked or something). In the original Prime I remember dying a couple times on a few bosses (definitely two or three times on metroid prime) and in Echoes I think the only times I died were twice on the spider guardian, three or four times on the final boss and once or twice on the final dark samus battle. So far I don't know if it's easier than that.

Personally I wouldn't want to play a difficulty where it takes 5-10 tries to beat the first boss. Not only would that be annoying rather than fun I don't think I have the time for that on every boss, it's already going to take me 15-20 hours trying to scan everything :-P. Hell it took me 18:30 to beat echoes 100% using a walkthrough to locate shit. I don't plan on using a walkthrough on this one so it's probably going to take me a while.

I also don't have a problem hitting down for the missiles or the - and + buttons. I can even hit the 1 button without much difficulty by just slipping up the remote in my hand. It just takes some practice I guess, I'm sure people having a problem now will get used to it. I kept the fire and jump on default after switching it once and confusing myself. I think I can move my thumb a lot faster than my index finger though so it's better to fire with it. It'll take some getting used to though, for some reason I find myself holding the B button down after jumping sometimes. It's a lot different from MP1 and 2 where you'd just kind of keep tapping A to fire with half your thumb and just kind of roll it over to B to jump.

In any case, I just typed a lot of shit so I'm done.

[Strell]

No one should be surprised when this game doesn't sell much better than MP or MP2. Those soccer moms still playing Wii Sports aren't going to buy this.

I'm sorry, I thought only Nintendo fanboys have bought the Wii, and they clearly have every reason to pick up Metroid. That's what people like you originally said about the sales, right? I mean you're scrambling for some shit to say, might as well say something retarded and hope it makes you sleep better at night.

Come back with another one of your bullshit theories later when we get some kind of sales data on the game, instead of being a fanboy dick in here.

[tiredfornow]

:applause: @Strellypants.


I'm picking up a Wii friday and picking up Metroid as well. Heres to hoping it blows my mind. :]

[clockworkgreen]

Thankfully, I got through the first boss without losing a life (though, admittedly, not Veteran).

It's definitely a tough gig, jumping trying to miss his floor attacks, shooting the blue orbs back at him, all the while trying to run around and aim at weak points. I'm not exactly certain how it happened, but it did. :)

And, it was actually after that battle where I had originally put the gun on B and jump on A, that I switched them back to default settings. Now I can shoot much, much, much quicker with A.

[usickenme]

I have to say the Wii controls outside of shooting work very well, feel natural and are pretty cool.

(pulling levers, controlling her hand, activating items)

[ArthurDigbySellers]

For those of you who are having problems hitting the down arrow, maybe try swapping the A and B buttons. It might be easier to shoot with the B button and leave your thumb near the down arrow. Since you don't need to jump a whole lot (at least yet), it might work better.

Also, I haven't had any issues with my arm getting sore because I rest my hand on my leg when I play. I have noticed that my wrist was a little sore after playing an hour, but I think that was because I have to slightly angle the wiimote up towards the sensor bar. I may want to move the bar below the TV for this game.

[clockworkgreen]

And if you guys are bitter about the Gamespot score of 8.5, you're certainly going to get bitter with the Yahoo! Games score of 80.

http://videogames.yahoo.com/wii/metroid-prime-3-corruption/reviews/

[Cambot]

And if you guys are bitter about the Gamespot score of 8.5, you're certainly going to get bitter with the Yahoo! Games score of 80.

http://videogames.yahoo.com/wii/metroid-prime-3-corruption/reviews/

That's it! I'm cancelling all of my e-mail accounts, changing my home page and finding something new to say whenever I'm overjoyed!

[Strell]

That's it! I'm cancelling all of my e-mail accounts, changing my home page and finding something new to say whenever I'm overjoyed!

Might I suggest a hearty HUZZAH! ?

[clockworkgreen]

Yeah, screaming GOOGLE! instead might catch some crooked looks. Though screaming Yahoo! in the first place would do the same. :)

[dmaul1114]

I personally think normal is easy and they left out normal. Easy is to easy. So thats where my comment on baby mode came from. That mode was built for the casuals who don't play games very much and the soccer moms.

I'm playing on Advanced and Normal, and that's the way I like it. I don't like hard games. I play games to relax in my spare time.

But I'm not a "gamer god" who's life revolves around playing games and bragging about my skills on the internet.

[dmaul1114]

You know, I'm a pretty small guy. Unfortunate genes, I guess, but that's not the point. The point is that you guys have got to have some sort of hand-shrinking disease not to be able to comfortably hit both down and "A" at the same time. My thumb rests on both when holding the remote.

The end of my thumb reaches the down button in the normal position, but it's not in a spot where it's comfortable to hammer away on it to launch missiles at a boss or something. But it's so hard to hit non-stationary enemies with the missles or charged up shots with the lack of lock on anyway that they're just not going to get a lot of use it combat.....probably part of the reason they have hypermode to give you more powerful normal shots.

[munch]

I've tried so hard to like Metriod games, but for some reason I can't get into them. i want to give this one a shot. Maybe a rental?

[dmaul1114]

Also, I haven't had any issues with my arm getting sore because I rest my hand on my leg when I play. I have noticed that my wrist was a little sore after playing an hour, but I think that was because I have to slightly angle the wiimote up towards the sensor bar. I may want to move the bar below the TV for this game.

Same here, no arm problems as I rest my elbow on my leg or the couch while playing, both so I don't' have to hold it up and because I can aim steadier that way.

Only pain problem I had was my thumb was fried after the second boss battle as I had to do it twice as I died the first time and you have to shoot the fucker like I thousand times. :D

[Zen Davis]

Your TV probably has some overscan, it wouldn't take much as the black bars are very small--so it's a minor issue. But It was noted in one of the reviews and in post elsewhere, so they are there on many TVs.

We'll see on the others, I was getting a bit better with the charged shot, at least on enemies that weren't moving rapidly. I doubt I'll get used to the missles being on down though as my thumb doesn't reach it from the natural postion on the A button (either I have smaller hands than I thought or I hold the controller farther down the Remote than some do.

Oh wait. Did you change you buttons? I just reach up from the jump button quickly and attack. Thinking back, since I just woke up, it does still seem a little awkward but I can manage it without any difficulty.

[dmaul1114]

Oh wait. Did you change you buttons? I just reach up from the jump button quickly and attack. Thinking back, since I just woke up, it does still seem a little awkward but I can manage it without any difficulty.

No, I leave it on default of A to shoot and B to jump.

I tried switching, but I jerk the remote around to much when shooting with B, and I can't press it as fast as I can A.

I can reach up and hit it, but it's awkward if you want to fire missle rapidly, and I have a hard time keeping my aim steady when using it.

They should have must made down toggle missles on and off (like with select in Super Metroid) where you could just it down to switch to them and A to shoot them, then down again to switch back to normal shots.

[Zen Davis]

I've tried so hard to like Metriod games, but for some reason I can't get into them. i want to give this one a shot. Maybe a rental?
It's worth a rental. At the very least, with the new controls, you've never played anything quite like it. Play it until you get to Bryyo at which point the art design kicks into high gear.

Regarding the talk about sales, I think this will sell roughly twice as much as Resident Evil 4. I don't think it will come close to Zelda because the name brand value isn't there but since it is a Nintendo release on a system that has been starved for great games, it should move a decent amount of units. However, if the game shifts anything less than 100k in its first week, it can be considered a bomb.

[trip1eX]

The 2nd Metroid Prime bombed and sold well under 1 million copies here in the US.

The first maybe did 2 mil worldwide. Maybe. I know it did just over a mil here.

The way the game pulls your view back down when you look up is deliberate. It was there in the GC MP games. It's supposed to represent the difficulty that Samus has looking up in that suit of armor.

I like normal sensitivity as much as expert. I guess I like it because I often feel lazy when playing and I don't have to keep my cursor centered so much in order to avoid turning.

I think the art picks up once you hit ground on the first exotic planet. The space station can look good, but also a bit old school/cheesy parts. Some of the movement of the soldiers falling etc look just so-so.

To me the aiming works better than even aiming in the Wii menu. Some of the little annoyances I'd get once in awhile like jumping/skipping/flickering seem to have disappeared in this game.

The dpad to shoot missles doesn't feel good. It works. I can reach it. But the wiimote would have been better with a small red button next to the big 'A' like on the Wavebird. Ah well.

The pushing in/pulling out of the wiimote for activating equipment doesn't work great when you're kicking back on the couch. Maybe if you're standing up and have room to do that stuff.

[Swingman]

I just beat the first boss on Byrra, and as I expected, the game really picks up after that army base level that starts with an N. I still say the beginning feels too much like Halo or something decidedly not Metroid, but once you reach the first planet and the game starts proper, it seems to be a worthy addition to the Prime cannon.

If the game continues at the rate it's going, I'm sure I'll have forgotten all about the lame opening hour by the time the end credits roll. I mean Twilight Princess might be my favorite game of all time and that game had a pretty poor opening with all it's talking and fishing and spending an hour and a half before you even get your sword. But it's still an amazing game and worth the slow opening. Prime 3 seems rather similar.

I actually liked the first area better than I'm liking the 2nd area so far. To each their own I guess.

[Zen Davis]

The 2nd Metroid Prime bombed and sold well under 1 million copies here in the US.

The first maybe did 2 mil worldwide. Maybe. I know it did just over a mil here.

The way the game pulls your view back down when you look up is deliberate. It was there in the GC MP games. It's supposed to represent the difficulty that Samus has looking up in that suit of armor.

I like normal sensitivity as much as expert. I guess I like it because I often feel lazy when playing and I don't have to keep my cursor centered so much in order to avoid turning.

I think the art picks up once you hit ground on the first exotic planet. The space station can look good, but also a bit old school/cheesy parts. Some of the movement of the soldiers falling etc look just so-so.

To me the aiming works better than even aiming in the Wii menu. Some of the little annoyances I'd get once in awhile like jumping/skipping/flickering seem to have disappeared in this game.

The dpad to shoot missles doesn't feel good. It works. I can reach it. But the wiimote would have been better with a small red button next to the big 'A' like on the Wavebird. Ah well.

The pushing in/pulling out of the wiimote for activating equipment doesn't work great when you're kicking back on the couch. Maybe if you're standing up and have room to do that stuff.

The first one was a pack-in with the Gamecube for a number of months. That's how I got it.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

The end of my thumb reaches the down button in the normal position, but it's not in a spot where it's comfortable to hammer away on it to launch missiles at a boss or something. But it's so hard to hit non-stationary enemies with the missles or charged up shots with the lack of lock on anyway that they're just not going to get a lot of use it combat.....probably part of the reason they have hypermode to give you more powerful normal shots.

The missles are homing missles so as long as you have a lock-on on your target, they will hit. You HAVE to lock-on to hit an enemy with a missle for the most part, unless you are extremely close.

Charged shots are another matter...I'm getting better at hitting with them, but I typically charge, strafe out, fire, hide to avoid getting hammered when I whiff.

[A Happy Panda]

So no one is else is having the issues I'm having? Hmm.

[trunks982]

I just started playing a bit this late morning. I dont want to dig through this thread for this. Anyway, what does the friend voucher do? what does it mean?

[Zen Davis]

I just started playing a bit this late morning. I dont want to dig through this thread for this. Anyway, what does the friend voucher do? what does it mean?
It gives Samus extra powers later in the game since the entire Metroid solitude thing starts to get to her and the Phazon use starts to make her go crazy. It reminds her that beyond being a bounty hunter she still has friends for her in the universe that care for her. The amount of friend vouchers you can get directly affect how much she will damage the final boss.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

It gives Samus extra powers later in the game since the entire Metroid solitude thing starts to get to her and the Phazon use starts to make her go crazy. It reminds her that beyond being a bounty hunter she still has friends for her in the universe that care for her. The amount of friend vouchers you can get directly affect how much she will damage the final boss.

LOL. Maybe CAG should have "bullshit" tags.

[Zen Davis]

LOL. Maybe CAG should have "bullshit" tags.

Sir I know not what you talk about.

[Mookyjooky]

I heard in this one, they're going to be a little crazy, and make it where Samus loses all her abilities and you have to spend the game collecting them all one by one. Daaaaaaamn!

[A Happy Panda]

I heard in this one, they're going to be a little crazy, and make it where Samus loses all her abilities and you have to spend the game collecting them all one by one. Daaaaaaamn!

I also heard rumors of a countdown when you beat the game, and when you fly off in your ship, there's a planetary explosion behind you, with a possible spoiler!

/sarcasm

On a more serious note, scanning is a complete bitch. Terrible game design choice.

[Zen Davis]

I heard in this one, they're going to be a little crazy, and make it where Samus loses all her abilities and you have to spend the game collecting them all one by one. Daaaaaaamn!
No. Not really. That didn't happen in the build I'm playing.

[whoknows]

I heard in this one, they're going to be a little crazy, and make it where Samus loses all her abilities and you have to spend the game collecting them all one by one. Daaaaaaamn!
It doesn't happen in this game.

Hell froze over

[evilmax17]

Just playing around with all of the switches in the ship, and it really makes me yearn for a mech sim. They could pull that off so well.

[j.elles]

When I talk about the games difficulty im not talking to some of you guys who responded. I'm talking to the guys who called the game to easy. Because on Veteran the game is most certainly not to easy. Thats all im trying to say.

Also im sitting down with the controller around my lap playing the game not extended or leaning any to one side. I think being centered with the television, and having you're hands in a comfortable position is very important due to the nature of the controls.

And i thought I said Normal mode in conjunction with the auto lock on control sceme, sorry. That mode is most definetly made for casuals.

All I know is four direct hits killed you in that first boss fight. Very surprising to me even on veteran since some people called this game pretty easy in reviews. I'm thinking they must have all played on normal.

[dmaul1114]

The missles are homing missles so as long as you have a lock-on on your target, they will hit. You HAVE to lock-on to hit an enemy with a missle for the most part, unless you are extremely close.


Ah, I hadn't noticed that, and the tri-lingual manual for the game is shit.

I seem to have a hard time locking on to enemies in Advanced mode. A lot of times it seems to just lock on to nothing. Probably just need some more practice.

[Zen Davis]

Ah, I hadn't noticed that, and the tri-lingual manual for the game is shit.

I seem to have a hard time locking on to enemies in Advanced mode. A lot of times it seems to just lock on to nothing. Probably just need some more practice.

If the enemy moves to far off, the lock-on comes off. At least it does for me.

[dmaul1114]

If the enemy moves to far off, the lock-on comes off. At least it does for me.

Yep, that, and sometimes I'll hit it and it just won't lock on the enemies (maybe there just too far away).

I use it a lot just to walk around without the screen shaking, as it will just lock in the center if there are no enemies around.

[dmaul1114]

Your TV probably has some overscan, it wouldn't take much as the black bars are very small--so it's a minor issue. But It was noted in one of the reviews and in post elsewhere, so they are there on many TVs.


Found it, was in the IGN review.


The game also runs in progressive-scan and, for the first time, in 16:9 widescreen mode. The widescreen resolution is not exactly 854x480, but something closer to 825x470, which means that it may show some thin black borders on your screen.

But it is minor and doesn't really take away from the game, just a slight annoyance.

[clockworkgreen]

Yeah, I get the small bars, at least on the side, of my 37" Aquos LCD.

[A Happy Panda]

No bars on my 36" Sony Widescreen XBR.

Also, does REALLY no one else have the same issues I have with the controls I wrote about on page 44? I must be retarded.

[Strell]

Nothing interfering with the Wiimote, Panda? I.e., lights that would hurt the IR reception?

[dmaul1114]

Not really, I get the issue with looking up....as someone else posted that's deliberate as it's supposed to be hard for Samus to look up in the suit.

As far as looking diagonal, just aim the cursor in the middle of the screen all the time...and try advanced mode if you haven't yet.

[clockworkgreen]

I'll go one step further and say I'm playing with component cables, set to 16:9 and 480p.

And no, no problems with control. I'd do the calibration, make sure you only see the 2 dots, etc.

[dmaul1114]

Yeah, I get the small bars, at least on the side, of my 37" Aquos LCD.

Component cable, set to 16x9 480p here as well.

I have them on all sides, with it being slight wider on the right and bottom than on the top and left.

But even the widest one is probably less than a 1/4 inch...so again a minor annoyance.

Those that aren't getting them just have overscan on the tv that's wider than the bars--blessing in this case, but other times your not seeing a little of the picture that you should be seeing.

[A Happy Panda]

Nothing interfering with the Wiimote, Panda? I.e., lights that would hurt the IR reception?

I don't believe so. I was playing upstairs where the lights are pretty dim...

And the only issue that I feel would have a concern with the lights is my issue of having the feeling of walking straight, but looking slightly diagonally. Disorientating. The others seem like control problems to me, but again, I may have just to get used to them, though I feel like I should've already by now, I just beat the first boss.

I'll try the advanced controls when I get home tonight.

[clockworkgreen]

Component cable, set to 16x9 480p here as well.

I have them on all sides, with it being slight wider on the right and bottom than on the top and left.

But even the widest one is probably less than a 1/4 inch...so again a minor annoyance.

Those that aren't getting them just have overscan on the tv that's wider than the bars--blessing in this case, but other times your not seeing a little of the picture that you should be seeing.

Then these people should go into their screen size setting within the wii configuration and view the game at its true resolution. :)

[dmaul1114]

Then these people should go into their screen size setting within the wii configuration and view the game at its true resolution. :)

That won't help with overscan...it's not a setting on the console but just the way some TVs are designed.

Some sets have adjustment for it in the service menu, but it's usually not worth bothering with as it's usually minor.

[hack]

No bars on my 50" Samsung. Playing with component, 16x9, 480p.

This game is so awesome. :D

[daroga]

Anyone who wants to do the online stuff with the game, please remembe that at the end of May my #'s changed for my Wii code. Please delete me and readd me if you will. :)

[maigoyume]

just got my copy, gonna pop it in after class today :applause:

[clockworkgreen]

That won't help with overscan...it's not a setting on the console but just the way some TVs are designed.

Some sets have adjustment for it in the service menu, but it's usually not worth bothering with as it's usually minor.

Gotcha.

[Tybee]

It gives Samus extra powers later in the game since the entire Metroid solitude thing starts to get to her and the Phazon use starts to make her go crazy. It reminds her that beyond being a bounty hunter she still has friends for her in the universe that care for her. The amount of friend vouchers you can get directly affect how much she will damage the final boss.

And if you clap your hands :applause: and repeat "I do believe in Hunters" with all your might :pray:, Samus can fly!!! ;)

Anyhoo, logged a little over three hours with the game last night playing with the advanced controls on normal difficulty. Landed on Bryyo and called it a night. Really enjoying it so far. The controls are so tight it took my breath away at first. Someone said they had trouble with the "pull, turn, push" door locks, but I found them to be astonishingly smooth and natural feeling. I also love the realtime events, such as when you walk into the scanning room and one of the other Hunters is going through before you and griping at the marines. Just provides a very different, very neat feel to the game.

I also like the unlockable stuff using the pseudo-achievements.

To whomever was complaining about the brightness: There's a brightness setting in the game. Don't screw up the calibration of your TV just for this. ;)

lebowsky: I sent you my only friend voucher last night since you were the only person on my friends list showing as having the game. Let me know if you get it and what it does.

[Zen Davis]

And if you clap your hands :applause: and repeat "I do believe in Hunters" with all your might :pray:, Samus can fly!!! ;)

Actually she can... keep an eye on the cutscene after the Bryyo boss.

[WiiGame]

metroid isn't in all stores... it's not in blockbuster... i went 2 days after it came out on purpose so theyd have it ... and they didn't! arrghh! i soo wanted to play metroid tonight while chomping on some cheesy Hot Pockets!

[dmaul1114]

The thing I like about them is that they're not worthless NPCs compared to the almighty Samus. They can hold their own in the Metroid universe from what I've seen thus far.

To get back to this now that I've played and encountered them.

I agree with the above, they fit in pretty well. But I definitely don't like the design of them much. The big cyborg guy is kind of cool, but the other two are just X-men ripoffs--of Iceman and Mystique.

Again, fine as NPCs, but I definitely wouldn't be stoked for playing as any of them in a spin off game.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

lebowsky: I sent you my only friend voucher last night since you were the only person on my friends list showing as having the game. Let me know if you get it and what it does.

Thanks Tybee! I did get the friend voucher. When I logged into my game this afternoon it told me that I had received a friend voucher. I don't believe it told me who sent it though which is strange. It asked me if I wanted to convert it to a friend token. I chose yes and now I have one green friend token.

Some of the bonus content can only be unlocked if you have green tokens. These must be received by friends or you can't ever unlock them. The ability to take a screenshot and send it to a friend is one of those options. I think it only requires 1 green token, but I didn't have enough blue (lore) tokens to buy it.

I'll send you a friend voucher the next time I log in.

[dmaul1114]

Here's an example of what the black bars are like for those getting them.

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/814/814436/metroid-prime-3-corruption-20070822001113108.jpg


More pics here. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25869605

[Tybee]

Thanks Tybee! I did get the friend voucher. When I logged into my game this afternoon it told me that I had received a friend voucher. I don't believe it told me who sent it though which is strange. It asked me if I wanted to convert it to a friend token. I chose yes and now I have one green friend token.

Some of the bonus content can only be unlocked if you have green tokens. These must be received by friends or you can't ever unlock them. The ability to take a screenshot and send it to a friend is one of those options. I think it only requires 1 green token, but I didn't have enough blue (lore) tokens to buy it.

I'll send you a friend voucher the next time I log in.
Ah, so THAT's how you get green tokens. I thought it might have been that you have to play on Veteran to get them, but this makes more sense. Okay, let the trading begin. I want that Mii bobblehead! ;)

At last, a compelling reason to enter Wii codes.

[SpazX]

I do have the black bars, but you can't really tell since the TV is black anyway :-P.

Somebody send me some vouchers! I've got one left so I'll trade.

[daroga]

while chomping on some cheesy Hot Pockets!OT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFFTwnYXI20

[Rodimus]

Just picked up my copy. I have a few CAG on my friends list already but I may more of you guys. I anyone wants to send me a voucher I'd really appercaiate it. I have a few as well.

[Chacrana]

OT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFFTwnYXI20

I think of the same thing every time Hot Pockets comes up. I absolutely love this stand up special.

[Starky27]

I do have the black bars, but you can't really tell since the TV is black anyway :-P.

Somebody send me some vouchers! I've got one left so I'll trade.
Just sent one to you Spaz.

Just picked up my copy. I have a few CAG on my friends list already but I may more of you guys. I anyone wants to send me a voucher I'd really appercaiate it. I have a few as well.
I still have you on my list Rodimus, but you're gray right now. I'll send you one as soon as your MP3 data uploads.

[Rodimus]

I still have you on my list Rodimus, but you're gray right now. I'll send you one as soon as your MP3 data uploads.

Thanks bro, I sent the last one I had, but I soon as I get another one I'll fire it over to you.

[CouRageouS]

I just picked this up today. Haven't played it yet but I hope to get an hour or 2 in later.

I see theres some sort of friend code hoopla going on. So anyone who adds me, just PM me and I'll do the same.

[Sofa King Kool]

Just picked up a copy. I hope I like it. If not, it's off to my tradelist.

(I'll probably like it though).

[Swingman]

PM me if you want to trade vouchers

[daroga]

I think of the same thing every time Hot Pockets comes up. I absolutely love this stand up special.I'm pretty sure I'm gonna front the $10 and get it from Amazon. I love it, ranks right up there with some of my favorite stand-up specials ever.

I just played to the end of the second level. The fight with Mech Riddley was SOOOO awesome!

This game is great. If only it had come out a motnh ago when I had some time to play.

[CouRageouS]

Anyone who wants to do the online stuff with the game, please remembe that at the end of May my #'s changed for my Wii code. Please delete me and readd me if you will. :)
I added you awhile back but I think you're still gray on my Friend list. Add me!

[monkeydeew]

Just picked up a copy. I hope I like it. If not, it's off to my tradelist.

(I'll probably like it though).

thats exactly what i thought. an hour into the game i just had flashbacks to why i quite the first 2. i hate scanning everything and looking for the one door thats been unlocked now.

[cdietschrun]

I don't have this yet, but: My Wii has issues getting online at school, the best I can do is use the USB Wi-Fi connector and pray it catches the signal. Its hit or miss. What kind of things get unlocked with friend codes, or should I say, what will I miss if I don't get the chance to have my Wii online while playing through this game? I read a page back about screenshot ability with friend tokens?

[Doomed]

Are friend vouchors abundant like the missle upgrades in Prime 1 or more like the energy tanks, not as much? (At least I thought there were more missle upgrades than energy tanks)

[Callandor]

Actually she can... keep an eye on the cutscene after the Bryyo boss.

That was really more like floating. Still, with all the phazon coursing out of her at that point, I was picking up a lot of Dark Samus vibes; DS did the exact same hovering stuff in Echoes. Make me wonder what's gonna happen as the Phazon corruption gets stronger and stronger.

Finished Bryyo eariler today, started on the next planet. Holy fuck, it's cool. Even cooler that the Sancuary Fortress from Ecohes, and that was bomb.

[Starky27]

Are friend vouchors abundant like the missle upgrades in Prime 1 or more like the energy tanks, not as much? (At least I thought there were more missle upgrades than energy tanks)
You can earn them through some random 'difficult' tasks, but you'll earn a voucher for every 100 enemies you kill...

[tcrash247]

Ok, so I'm stuck already and need some guidance.

I'm on the second level where I have to activate the 3 power cores (or whatever they call them). I just beat the platform where I summoned my ship and met up with the one bounty hunter and I need to activate the first core. I'm in a cylinderish room with little robots flying around and panels on the walls that can be scanned. The place I need to get to is being protected by a little blue wall/shield thing. I cannot make the jump and keep falling into the ground.

What am I supposed to do?

[SpazX]

Anybody else died of a phazon overload? I got hit by a space pirate grenade and it killed me that way before I knew it, but anyway, what happens is pretty badass (if it hasn't already been mentioned).

Btw, I'll get you a friend voucher next time I start it up starky.

[Zen Davis]

Ok, so I'm stuck already and need some guidance.

I'm on the second level where I have to activate the 3 power cores (or whatever they call them). I just beat the platform where I summoned my ship and met up with the one bounty hunter and I need to activate the first core. I'm in a cylinderish room with little robots flying around and panels on the walls that can be scanned. The place I need to get to is being protected by a little blue wall/shield thing. I cannot make the jump and keep falling into the ground.

What am I supposed to do?

Be more specific. Norion? or Bryyo? Which hunter are you talking about?

[SpazX]

Ok, so I'm stuck already and need some guidance.

I'm on the second level where I have to activate the 3 power cores (or whatever they call them). I just beat the platform where I summoned my ship and met up with the one bounty hunter and I need to activate the first core. I'm in a cylinderish room with little robots flying around and panels on the walls that can be scanned. The place I need to get to is being protected by a little blue wall/shield thing. I cannot make the jump and keep falling into the ground.

What am I supposed to do?

I think I just figured out what you're saying. The reactors on Norion right? Is it the blue thing with cracks in it and you're trying to figure out how to break it? I remember getting confused there. There's a morphball hole in one of the crevices around and you go under all the blue glass.

I think that's what you're talking about, let me know if I'm wrong.

[tcrash247]

The hunter is the guy with that travels like Iceman and has a long head with no face. Hes blueish. And now that you mention it, yes, its's Norion.

It might be a blue thing, but I'm just trying to get over to it. The panel above it is broken. I blew up some debris that was right in front of it by jumping and shooting. It doesn't seem like theres much room for a crevice to get into except by the door I came in, but I'll look again.

Thanks for the help!

[clockworkgreen]

Ok, so I'm stuck already and need some guidance.

I'm on the second level where I have to activate the 3 power cores (or whatever they call them). I just beat the platform where I summoned my ship and met up with the one bounty hunter and I need to activate the first core. I'm in a cylinderish room with little robots flying around and panels on the walls that can be scanned. The place I need to get to is being protected by a little blue wall/shield thing. I cannot make the jump and keep falling into the ground.

What am I supposed to do?

I think I know what you're talking about, I just played that level.

The little robots flying around will keep flying around. You have to blast a bunch of them, maybe 3-4 waves, and then one of the blue shields will drop far enough for you to jump on it.

EDIT: Maybe your past this part. Really, I just played it, and I'm having a hard time placing your last description.

[007]

I just picked up Metroid. It's like hot, buttered sex. My Wii just started making the annoying buzzing sound. This is a problem.

Hot, buttered sex vs. fixing the Wii

Decisions.

[SpazX]

Hey Starky, your voucher didn't show up when I started the game up, but I sent you one.

I got one from hack and I sent one back.

And I added you clockwork and I'll send a voucher once it does its thing and you show up.

[ricoraney]

What in the hell is this post trying to prove?

Metroid Prime was received incredibly well by lots of various groups, and the fact that Nintendo gamers accepted a 3D incarnation of one of their holy franchises is immense in a way not seen much in the gaming industry anymore. (That is, until an honest-to-god good 3D Castelvania appears on the scene, but I have little faith that will happen.) Reviewers championed MP's more "first person adventure" focus, especially given the hotly debated and controversial shift to that sort of game.

As for changing Metroid, I imagine this is a lesser of two evils "we're-going-to-get-bitched-at-anyway" sort of decision, because if they'd left everything as is without anything new, I could see you writing "well f*ck the Retro guys they can't do anything new for the series." They changed it because it was in 3D, because it was the first new Metroid in a while on a console, and because if they'd kept it without anything different, people would hate on it for being nothing but a sequel.
I totally agree with you. That person is a dumbass! He knows nothing about games and/or evolution of gaming for that matter. Pay him no mind.

[dmaul1114]

Put in another 2 1/2 hours or so, saved after beating the 3rd boss Iceman and flying to the other side of Bryyo.

Definitely digging the game and getting more and more used to the controls.

Third boss gave me more problems than the first 2, but still beat him pretty easy on the 3rd try.

[bardiya27]

This is my GOTY so far. The controls are excellent, the action is on point, the puzzles are just genius. Everything is just perfect.

[dmaul1114]

This is my GOTY so far. The controls are excellent, the action is on point, the puzzles are just genius. Everything is just perfect.

Mine too, but my vote is worthless as the only 2007 releases I've picked up were Planet Puzzle League on the DS and Super Paper Mario.

Other than that just been playing some VC games and catching up on some PS2 and PC backlog.

[Cambot]

Question about Norion:

I activated two of the three cores, and then the 04:00 minute countdown began. I didn't get to explore the third wing and activate the core. I guess one of the other hunters said he'd activate it or something, but the map was still blue for all those rooms in the third wing of the complex (which annoyed me), and I had to rush to the controll room to fire the canon. Was I too slow? Is it a new objective in Veteran mode?

Also, an easy way to get kills/friend vouchers:

Find an area where there are snatchers or any endless flow of pillbugs or whatever crawling out of the rocks and blast away. I went from 500 to 1100 kills in about four minutes.

[Callandor]

Question about Norion:

I activated two of the three cores, and then the 04:00 minute countdown began. I didn't get to explore the third wing and activate the core. I guess one of the other hunters said he'd activate it or something, but the map was still blue for all those rooms in the third wing of the complex (which annoyed me), and I had to rush to the controll room to fire the canon. Was I too slow? Is it a new objective in Veteran mode?

Also, an easy way to get kills/friend vouchers:

You can go back to Norion and access that area once you have a couple certain upgrades. I just went there myself, and I won't spoil what happens...

[CouRageouS]

I just figured out how these voucher things work. I added a bunch of people and PM'ed all of you. Hurry up guys and so I can get the Mii Bobblehead!

[seanr1221]

Only played for a little bit last night, but so far I'm impressed :D

[SpazX]

I just figured out how these voucher things work. I added a bunch of people and PM'ed all of you. Hurry up guys and so I can get the Mii Bobblehead!

I'll PM you back once I add you, it'll be this evening some time. Yay for CAG, I'll have plenty of friend credits for everything (now I just need more yellow credits....).

[clockworkgreen]

Vouchers sent to Courageous, Donut and Swingman last night. Hope they showed up.

[io]

I've sent out a few and would like to get some back. And I need a lot, I guess, because my son also wants to unlock stuff in his game. You share the reception of credits for all save slots but the advantage is we can send out twice as many (with the 2 saved games). I've sent a few to different people on my list. If there's anyone on my list that wants one and I haven't sent it yet, let me know. And Botticus, what's up with you? I don't see you active with a save yet.

And if anyone else wants to add, let me know.

How many friend credits do you need to unlock everything?

[botticus]

I've sent out a few and would like to get some back. And I need a lot, I guess, because my son also wants to unlock stuff in his game. You share the reception of credits for all save slots but the advantage is we can send out twice as many (with the 2 saved games). I've sent a few to different people on my list. If there's anyone on my list that wants one and I haven't sent it yet, let me know. And Botticus, what's up with you? I don't see you active with a save yet.

And if anyone else wants to add, let me know.

How many friend credits do you need to unlock everything?My $30 Target order shipped yesterday, I'll have it in a few days. Not sure I'll be booting it up anytime soon, though. Haven't decided yet.

[Chibi_Kaji]

So I need friend vouchers to get some of the unlockables... That may take a while since i know only one other person with the game.

[Zen Davis]

Impromptu poll. Best game on the Nintendo Wii?

[psunami]

I'll take some of those friend vouchers if people are sending them. Just let me know when you've added me to your friends list and I'll add you.

[Rodimus]

I found an easy way to unlock a few Friend Vouchers in 10-15 minutes. Nothing to do with the story, but I put it in spoilers just in case:

Their are some places when you morph into a ball (I know theirs one on Norrin & Bryyo) and these little insects swarm you (The one in Norrin is close to where you get the grapple beam). Once enough are on you they carry you up to a big mouth. Just keep bombing those little insects and in about 10-15 minutes you should have up to 1000 kills (1 voucher for each 100 kills), trust me it's freaking easy. I have about 7 friend vouchers right now. I think after 1000 kills the bar is set higher, possibly 1500 kills, not sure?

EDIT - clockworkgreen, starky27 & io, I sent you all one friend voucher. ENJOY :D

[ananag112]

Here is a guide to easily gain Friend Vouchers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

:)

[dmaul1114]

Impromptu poll. Best game on the Nintendo Wii?

Too early to really make that vote....would have to finish this first.

I doubt it will pass Zelda for me though, even though I am loving the shit out of it so far. But I've got over 48 hours into Zelda, and still have a lot I haven't done and pick it up a couple times a month to mess around with sidequests, fishing, still need to do cave of ordeals etc.

Metroid will just be an amazing 20-25 hour experience that I'll play through once and never touch again just like the original, so it probably won't surpass Twilight Princess for me.

[tcrash247]

I think I know what you're talking about, I just played that level.

The little robots flying around will keep flying around. You have to blast a bunch of them, maybe 3-4 waves, and then one of the blue shields will drop far enough for you to jump on it.

EDIT: Maybe your past this part. Really, I just played it, and I'm having a hard time placing your last description.

I believe that is the part, I just figured there was a path I wasn't seeing. I'll try this tonight, thanks!

[fshaia]

Here is a guide to easily gain Friend Vouchers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

:)

AAAHHHHH Disco AAAAAHHHHH ! That was funny, did people actually buy that stuff ?

[maigoyume]

Here is a guide to easily gain Friend Vouchers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

:)again?! man, i gotta stop falling for those

[Swingman]

anyone want to trade vouchers? PM me

[Callandor]

I will! :D

[SpazX]

Here is a guide to easily gain Friend Vouchers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

:)

That's the first I've fallen for in a long time (second total I think...). Be proud.

[Oozer]

I'm loving the game so far, but I've gotten myself stuck.

I'm on Bryyo and I've gotten to the landing pad where it guides you to after killing Rundas. I've opened up the doors on the roof, but I don't know where to go from there. Do I need to do something else before I can call my ship to it or do I have to go back and get my ship and take it there?

P.S. Anyone wanna trade friend vouchers?

[Draccius]

I'm up for trading friend vouchers, too. Please drop me a PM if interested. :)

[SpazX]

I'm loving the game so far, but I've gotten myself stuck.

I'm on Bryyo and I've gotten to the landing pad where it guides you to after killing Rundas. I've opened up the doors on the roof, but I don't know where to go from there. Do I need to do something else before I can call my ship to it or do I have to go back and get my ship and take it there?

P.S. Anyone wanna trade friend vouchers?

I remember that, this is what you do: opening the roof means you've gone through and raised the missile rack thing and jumped over to the other side of the room and activated that panel right? After that all you have to do is go down and hit the panel to drop the upgrade thing down again and call in your ship. If it says there's something in the way that's the missile rack and you have to lower it.

I think I'm remembering that right, I got stuck for a few minutes in that room because I didn't know to raise the missile rack to use it to get around, but after that it was pretty straightforward so unless there's some glitch or I'm not remembering it right what I said should be it.

[ananag112]

I hate this.

Metroid Prime 3 and Smash Bros. Brawl are the only games I want on the Wii in the near future (I also have a 360). I called all around asking if they have a Wii in stock, but no store in 200 miles have the Wii. I swore to myself to not get the Wii until there are more quality games for $20, but I don't think I can resist. Damn you Nintendo.

[Strell]

That's ok. I'm going to kick your kirby loving ass in Brawl when it comes out.

All will be fine at that point.

[whoknows]

That's ok. I'm going to kick your kirby loving ass in Brawl when it comes out.

All will be fine at that point.
Are you going to play as SONIC??

No, I don't think you will since I will.

[Strell]

Are you going to play as SONIC??

No, I don't think you will since I will.

I don't think either of us will, I hope, because he won't be in there.

Bitch can't beat Mario in the hundred meter dash?

Don't gots no time, don't gots no time.

[ananag112]

That's ok. I'm going to kick your kirby loving ass in Brawl when it comes out.

All will be fine at that point.

I don't use Kirby in Smash Bros. I use Ganondorf or Young Link mostly. I only like Kirby because of Kirby Super Star on the SNES.

On topic though, would you say Metroid Prime 3 is the best looking Wii game we have seen thus far?

[botticus]

I hate this.

Metroid Prime 3 and Smash Bros. Brawl are the only games I want on the Wii in the near future (I also have a 360). I called all around asking if they have a Wii in stock, but no store in 200 miles have the Wii. I swore to myself to not get the Wii until there are more quality games for $20, but I don't think I can resist. Damn you Nintendo.Are you quite certain, sir?

gamestop.com/productavail.asp?miles=100&sku=020070&zip=07666&product_name=Nintendo+Wii&platforms=Nintendo+wii&sbox=020070a%2Ejpg&status=A&BN=False

I count 8 within 10 miles.

[whoknows]

I don't think either of us will, I hope, because he won't be in there.

Bitch can't beat Mario in the hundred meter dash?

Don't gots no time, don't gots no time.
Oh, he will be in there, and he'll be awesome.

And he let Mario win, that's the only reasonable conclusion.

[ananag112]

Are you quite certain, sir?

gamestop.com/productavail.asp?miles=100&sku=020070&zip=07666&product_name=Nintendo+Wii&platforms=Nintendo+wii&sbox=020070a%2Ejpg&status=A&BN=False

I count 8 within 10 miles.

That is what they say there. I called the ones near my house, and they don't have it. Maybe they are too lazy to check?

[botticus]

That is what they say there. I called the ones near my house, and they don't have it. Maybe they are too lazy to check?Perhaps that area just loves the Wii... could be that the store with 4+ just got them in last night and they all sold out this morning. Strange to see almost every EB near me shows it in stock, I may have to call around just to check its accuracy.

[Scrubking]

I need friends to trade vouchers. Anyone want to be my friend?

2918-7439-5801-1454

[Cambot]

Sweet Bethany, I can't stop scanning.

Any other scan junkies out there?

[SpazX]

Sweet Bethany, I can't stop scanning.

Any other scan junkies out there?
Hell yeah, ever since the first prime I've scanned damn near everything. In fact whenever I walk into a room for the first time I always have my scan visor on.

[Rodimus]

I'm also guilty of being a scan whore.

[A Happy Panda]

The scanning interface is really annoying =/ Oh well.

[Doomed]

So MP3 uses Wii codes? I guess I should update my gamertag and add friends now. So when my Target order comes, I'll be ready. Anyone wanna be my friend?

[Scrubking]

Scanning stuff is one of the easiest things to do in the game. I have no idea where these complaints come from. You hit (-) then point up then walk around and scan whatever you want. It takes me 1 second to enter scan mode.

Anway, I do find myself scanning a lot of things.

[A Happy Panda]

Scanning stuff is one of the easiest things to do in the game. I have no idea where these complaints come from. You hit (-) then point up then walk around and scan whatever you want. It takes me 1 second to enter scan mode.

Anway, I do find myself scanning a lot of things.

Scanning enemies is pretty annoying.

[Callandor]

Scrubking: I'll add you next time I get on. Please do the same. :)

The extraneous scanning can be a bit much, but the interface isn't all that bad.

[Tybee]

BTW, regarding the Wii update that happens when you put in the disc: It's not getting it off the Internet. The update is on the disc itself.

I had heard about an update, so I tried manually updating my Wii from the options menu before putting the disc in, and it said I was up to date. But when I first put the disc in, it didn't recognize it like it has games in the past, showing the title in the little channel window. So I clicked on the Disc Channel and it launched the (quick) update.

[Callandor]

As a side note, I have humbly added the following people to my friend list:
Swingman, Scrubking, Oozer, Draccius, CouRageouS, Spaz-X, io, and Psunami.

[jer7583]

I added the following to my friend list, also will PM you guys later when I have time

Gunm, Scrubking, SpazX, Rodimus Donut, Happy Panda, Callandor, Tybee, Strell, Botticus, Courageous, psunami, and Seanr.

My code:

0507 9683 7937 5236

I'd be happy to send you all vouchers and recieve some. Loving this game. I'll keep adding people too, just didnt' have time to get through the whole thread. PM me if you add!

[A Happy Panda]

I added the following to my friend list, also will PM you guys later when I have time

Gunm, Scrubking, SpazX, Rodimus Donut, Happy Panda, Callandor, Tybee, Strell, Botticus, Courageous, psunami, and Seanr.

My code:

0507 9683 7937 5236

I'd be happy to send you all vouchers and recieve some. Loving this game. I'll keep adding people too, just didnt' have time to get through the whole thread. PM me if you add!

I'll try to add the couple of people who have told me they added my code. But yeah. No promises =/ Sorry. I just hardly turn my Wii on, and even now I'm actually playing on my parents (yes they have one).

[KingBroly]

I scan EVERYTHING. It's not even fair. Oh well. I've got to get 100%. I even restarted an area so I could scan something.

This game is really sweet. I mean, REALLY sweet. After getting through a couple of troubling boss fights, I am getting to the true meat of any Metroid game. And it feels very rewarding to do so (I died like 11 times on Veteran, but I did it!).

Also, take some time to notice VERY SUBTLE things visually. I think you'll be surprised. I'm not going any farther than that.

[Doomed]

I hate scanning, I feel to obligated to scan everything. At least that's how it was on Prime 1. Updated my sig, now with 10% more wii code. Anyone wanna be friends?

[Zen Davis]

I fucking love the steampunk inspired planet. If this were on a HD system, Bioshock would have nothing on Corruption.

[SpazX]

I've sent vouchers to everybody who has sent me one and some who haven't yet, so total I've sent to: Tybee, io, botticus, hack (that's what it is under my address book anyway), Starky, and clockwork.

I'll add the people who aren't on my address book tonight.

[CouRageouS]

Sweet Bethany, I can't stop scanning.

Any other scan junkies out there?
In the first MP, I was never one for scanning, but with the voucher thing in place I just can't stop. Quick question.

I forgot to scan Ridley. Am I screwed or what!?

[Chacrana]

So being the one person who isn't playing this yet (not by choice, mind you), what's the veteran difficulty setting most comparable to? Is it like the default difficulty of Metroid Prime 2? I played through MP2 this summer and didn't find it all that difficult, so if that's what Veteran's like, then it seems ideal.

[io]

BTW, regarding the Wii update that happens when you put in the disc: It's not getting it off the Internet. The update is on the disc itself.

I had heard about an update, so I tried manually updating my Wii from the options menu before putting the disc in, and it said I was up to date. But when I first put the disc in, it didn't recognize it like it has games in the past, showing the title in the little channel window. So I clicked on the Disc Channel and it launched the (quick) update.

I had the same thing happen - it was wierd, but it makes sense now that it was on the disc. What did the update do. I think I noticed a new feature - now when I have a new message the little mailbox thing at the lower right pulses and makes noise when in the channel interface.

On a completely different topic, it seems people universally bag on the MP2 multiplayer mode. Well, my two boys happen to be playing that right now and from the sound of it (2 rooms away) they are having a blast. (2-player splitscreen, just going after each other). My older son remembered that we played that briefly when MP2 first came out (and I never played the single-player game on that one). When we played MP3 last night he asked about it again and, I guess, got his mother to load it up today ;).