Left 4 Dead - Gen. Discussion & Info

[n4styn4t3]

Valve needs to add a four on four matchmaking system asap. I've been playing this since it came out and the survival pack is cool but me and my friends are getting really tired of waiting 15 minutes to find a game just to have the other team get pissed and quit 2-3 levels in. Finishing a complete versus game against four people random people is next to impossible.

[n4styn4t3]

^ ps. If anyone has similar problems (you have four but can find an opposing team) please add me on XBL. Me and three friends play just about every other night and would much rather play against some people that will finish a game.

[mtxbass1]

Does anyone have a problem loading textures in the game (my game won't load the woods floor in campaign 2)?

Nope.

Sounds like maybe the onset of E74?

[Anexanhume]

Does anyone have a problem loading textures in the game (my game won't load the woods floor in campaign 2)? You can't get wood?

[Magehart]

:whee: just got 980/1000

Any advice for getting Zombie Genocidest aside from massive amounts of gameplay (ie: good levels and game modes)?

Also; I did all expert levels as a duo without any issue. It's all about where to hold your position to maximize the AI's godly sniping abilities.

[Galego23]

i've been at 980 for the past couple of months... I just can't get back into it anymore.

[Kevlar281]

:whee: just got 980/1000

Any advice for getting Zombie Genocidest aside from massive amounts of gameplay (ie: good levels and game modes)?

Other then just playing the game you can always do this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMW9wEX8oas

[Anexanhume]

Survival is best for genocidist because it's nothing but hordes.

[Galego23]

that trick doesn't really work... I tested it out and I got more kills in 5 minutes of survivor than I did in 30 mins of the No Mercy "glitch."

[Anexanhume]

i've been at 980 for the past couple of months... I just can't get back into it anymore.

I wish you, geist, and ivan were still playing. It's rare that I find a decent versus team randomly. When I do, the people that friend me are either never seen again or already in a game when I go to play.

[Kevlar281]

that trick doesn't really work... I tested it out and I got more kills in 5 minutes of survivor than I did in 30 mins of the No Mercy "glitch."
It worked for me. I was getting 3,000+ kills every hour.

/edit: ughh stupid typo

[snookie_wookums]

This thread is about to get a Zombie Genocidist amount of views!

[soccerstud652]

Nope.

Sounds like maybe the onset of E74?

Could you expand upon that?

[IvanHood]

I wish you, geist, and ivan were still playing. It's rare that I find a decent versus team randomly. When I do, the people that friend me are either never seen again or already in a game when I go to play.

I'm having the same problem as cmart. With so much new stuff to play and L4D2 on the way in November, it's hard to get motivated to get back into this game. As soon as L4D2 drops, though, it's on.

[Magehart]

vs. games have been good for me as i've been able to play with 3 friends consistently. My biggest issue though is we always crush through on the first round and the other team drops out after that. I never understood why you'ld drop in a non-ranked game?

[Ink.So.Well.]

Ugh. Once again, I still play this game just on an irregular basis. All you guys have to do is send me a game invite if you want to play though to your defense I haven't been on much lately. Past couple of weeks have been a pain in the ass and since my FL won't respect my personal space I've had to sign in offline.

If you want play just hit up the thread, get at me here through PMs or send me a Live MSG. Well at least until the dust on my end settles and my FL can hop off my manhood long enough for me to breathe. ;\

[Anexanhume]

New DLC announcement by summer's end:

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/02/left-4-dead-dlc-announcement-by-end-of-summer/

[Magehart]

I'm torn if I want more cheesemints or not. I like the idea of keeping 1000 since they suck as is but the prospect of more is never a bad one. As long as they're in line with the PC ones currently it wouldn't be too bad.

I'm hoping for a 5th campaign. That would be tits. Gotta be rescued by reaching a military fort that has other humans and no zombies though. No more rescue vehicle. Lets just have a balls out gauntlet to the finish line.

[decrot]

New DLC announcement by summer's end:

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/02/left-4-dead-dlc-announcement-by-end-of-summer/
gotta love those announcements of announcements. now if you can get an announcements^3 we'd be set.

[Galego23]

gotta love those announcements of announcements. now if you can get an announcements^3 we'd be set.


to bad these are for PC and not for 360.

[Anexanhume]

to bad these are for PC and not for 360.

Eh? The sourced article says it will come out for both PC and 360.

[SumOG]

exciting...
anyone playin tonite?
i see natiria on already
i will be on till i get tired

[KingBroly]

I just wonder what they can add to the game from a DLC standpoint besides another Campaign that would cost money.

[SynGamer]

If anyone has Disc 99 (August 2009 issue), would you consider starting up a train for the Left 4 Dead premium theme (and gamer pics)? Similar to the Rock Band songs train...

[FluxDF]

I just got L4D back from a friend. It's been a while. I need the expert cheese. If anyone still needs those or wants to help out hit me up.

I'd like to get in on the OXM disc train for the LFD items if one gets started. :)

[HydroX]

Count me in on the L4D OXM disc train. Choo choo! :)

[ohboy10451]

they have one of those trains already. Just search...

[SynGamer]

they have one of those trains already. Just search...
I searched and didn't find anything...so my request stands; if anyone has the August issue/disk (99?) would you consider a train?

[menikmati]

Just got this last week from a CAGer, and boy do I feel embarrassed every time I get one of those friendly-fire warnings.

Send me a FR if you want to play any mode.

[ohboy10451]

I searched and didn't find anything...so my request stands; if anyone has the August issue/disk (99?) would you consider a train?


http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6018373#post6018373

[SumOG]

been trying to get safety first
once with natiria...was shooting at the tank and the tank fell and a bullet hit bill
again later on...shot a gas tank and bam!...bill and zoey gets hurt
anyone wana run thru campaign? easy and expert?

[wjhard63]

been trying to get safety first
once with natiria...was shooting at the tank and the tank fell and a bullet hit bill
again later on...shot a gas tank and bam!...bill and zoey gets hurt
anyone wana run thru campaign? easy and expert?

I'm not sure you'd want to run through campaign with me, as I've just started playing the game, but I'm up for going through for achievements. If you're interested, just send me an FR on XBL (tag: Shinobi Hanzo).

[SumOG]

basically im just running straight thru the game as fast as possible without getting hit by the special infected
just let me kno which level you are most familiar with
ty

[draven1089]

best way for safty first is on easy and and let the bots do all the shooting, and you just keep punching. Only fire if you have to adn make sure you firing ahead with with no body near you.

[Ryuukishi]

Does anyone know if getting incapped prevents the Man vs. Tank achievement from unlocking? The tank incapped me after I hit it with a few auto shotgun blasts, but I was able to finish it off with the pistol from the ground. There were no environmental hazards that could have harmed the tank, and on the next loading screen it even showed:

"Did the most damage to the tank"
Me - 2XXX
Other dude - 0
Other dude - 0
Other dude - 0

And yet I didn't get the achievement. :( Is it possible that someone meleed the tank or something, and it voided the achievement without actually causing any damage?

[Magehart]

Killed off 2 teammates in the safe room then me and my buddy spawned the tank. I unloaded to all hell on it and my friend did nothing but lure it around. My friend died and then the tank incapped me. I dropped it DURING THE RESTART with my pistol and got the achievement. So no; being incapped doesn't disable the achievement.

We did this before we were smart and realized molotovs make life easier.

[Sharp Katana]

basically im just running straight thru the game as fast as possible without getting hit by the special infected
just let me kno which level you are most familiar with
ty

Hey OG when are you available to do an expert run? I see you on sometimes but I'm not sure if you want to play L4D

[Matt Young]

I played a couple days ago. 'Twas my first time since February or March. I just played by myself on Normal... I never did play above Normal except once. I got the "Cr0wned" achievement, and the one for no players taking damage from the witch.

I got this game months after release, and then school was going on, so I haven't gotten to play nearly as much as I'd like. But I'd be down for a campaign on a higher difficulty, or to play Versus, or Survival which I've never done.

[Ryuukishi]

Got Man vs. Tank last night, just killing off the two AIs and playing the Death Toll finale with a friend until we both unlocked it. Then for the heck of it we decided to go for Untouchables on the dock, and we were a hair's breadth from having it-- at the last second my friend got hit by a piece of thrown concrete from a tank. :P

[SlimJim0725]

I will have this game again soon and if I am not playing something else I would be more than happy to help people with it. Untouchables is pretty easy on Dead Air's finale, there was a youtube video I watched that helped me get it on my first try with the AI.

[gsr]

is there a discussion thread for left 4 dead 2?

[Matt Young]

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226053&highlight=left+dead

[SumOG]

im down for some expert play
have yet to get the cheesements
there have been several instances where i was left behind when we get rescued =/
im not blaming anyone...just wat happens

[freshzen]

If you guys want Nothing Special, or any campaign achievement really, play through the campaign until you get to chapter 5, while you're still in the safe room vote to return to lobby, then just load the game back up again, no make sure you don't get hit by any special infected for the finale and you'll get Stomach Upset and Nothing Special. Also this works for expert (play first 4 chapters on easy then change to expert), safety first, anything. I recommend the Dead Air campaign and get on top of the plane you fly out on. You could try the Jesus room on No Mercy or the rock on Death Toll but getting on top of the plane on Dead Air is the easiest method.

To get on top of the plane you have to push some carts in between this truck and the plane so that you can jump up onto the truck and jump across to the top of the plane. The carts you need to push are a bit tricky and I'm not even 100% sure how to get them to move, I just kept throwing a propane tank into them and they were moving slowly.

[Anexanhume]

im down for some expert play
have yet to get the cheesements
there have been several instances where i was left behind when we get rescued =/
im not blaming anyone...just wat happens

Sorry I couldn't help you ;)

[SlimJim0725]

Just got the game back today, feel free to send me a message to play (GT same as username here). I will at least send you a message back letting you know if I am available to play or not.

[StickyWaffles]

Also this works for expert (play first 4 chapters on easy then change to expert)Didn't know this, thanks. I'll try it with some friends soon.

[Ronzilla]

Well I'm finally catching up on my BACKLOG of games and wanted to know CAG's opinion on Left 4 Dead.

I want to play the campaign through to the end but I'm not sure if it's better to play by myself or with another player?
Is it like GOW2 in that the Co-Op is SOOOO much funner to play through with a friend than by yourself or is it just as entertaining playing by yourself??

Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks!

[nnthomas]

The game is meant to be played with other people. There's only 4 campaigns and they are easily completed in a day if you play by yourself on something like Normal. Expert is meant for 4 people who co-ordinate well together.

Or, you could just cheat and do the Easy -> Expert glitch (?) and be done with it.

[gr8asianman]

I enjoy it more when I'm playing co-op, so if you have a friend(s) to play with I say go for it.

[Galego23]

the game is not meant for single-player whatsoever.

[jkanownik]

the game is not meant for single-player whatsoever.

The exception being if you're just in the mood to play something easy and kill some stuff. Similar to killing some bots in PDZ.

[Ronzilla]

The game is meant to be played with other people. There's only 4 campaigns and they are easily completed in a day if you play by yourself on something like Normal. Expert is meant for 4 people who co-ordinate well together.

Or, you could just cheat and do the Easy -> Expert glitch (?) and be done with it.

I enjoy it more when I'm playing co-op, so if you have a friend(s) to play with I say go for it.

the game is not meant for single-player whatsoever.

The exception being if you're just in the mood to play something easy and kill some stuff. Similar to killing some bots in PDZ.

Thanks guys. Seems like the consensus is co-op. I don't think I have 4 friends that have L4D so 2man co-op will have to do for now.

[Galego23]

The exception being if you're just in the mood to play something easy and kill some stuff. Similar to killing some bots in PDZ.

meh, the only time I played single-player was to get the red mist achievement other than that I'd rather watch paint dry than play single player.

[wingw]

Just got this game from another cager so I'm as green as you can get but I'm always up for any mode, feel free to send me a FR!

[SumOG]

someone from CAG is usually on playing this game

[KingBroly]

New DLC is coming out in September

Good news: It's a campaign

Bad news: 360 owners have to pay 560 points for it

[Ink.So.Well.]

Sweet. At least the price isn't that bad.

[Galego23]

it's so much more than a new campaign though, this is definitely a buy hey geist looks like we'll playing soon again LOL

Left 4 Dead (http://kotaku.com/tag/left-4-dead/) 2 doesn't mean the end of downloadable content for the original game, as Valve announces Crash Course (http://kotaku.com/tag/crash-course/), a new single-player, multiplayer, and versus mode campaign for the Xbox 360 (http://kotaku.com/tag/xbox-360/) and PC. Crash Course ties together the No Mercy and Death Toll campaigns from the original release, adding a little bit of continuity to the title and taking the piss out of the daring helicopter rescue at the end of No Mercy all at once. It just won't be as much of a relief once you know that the helicopter isn't going to stay airborne long enough to do your team any good.

While Crash Course should be an excellent addition to the Survival and Co-op modes, the core focus of the downloadable content is to deliver " a complete Versus mode experience in just 30 minutes." To that effect they've added a recharge timer for infected teammates, and tweaked item spawning for a more balanced experience.

Gabe Newell took the occasion of this announcement to assure players that support for the first Left 4 Dead (http://kotaku.com/tag/left-4-dead/) is still going full-steam, pun intended. " Since the release of Left 4 Dead last November, the design team has been excited about creating new experiences for this world and allowing players to do the same, by releasing much of our internal toolset, like the Survival Pack and Authoring Tools," said Gabe Newell. "We're working with the fans toward the ongoing entertainment value of the product."
Look for Crash Course to hit the Xbox 360 and PC this September for 560 Microsoft points.

[Anexanhume]

Definitely looking forward to this. I'm at 46.5k zombies, and that's my only remaining achievement. I wonder if they'll add more.

[CoffeeEdge]

All of the idiots boycotting L4D2 because they were convinced that it's existence meant that Valve was dropping support for L4D1 can all kill themselves now, please.

[A Happy Panda]

New DLC is coming out in September

Good news: It's a campaign

Bad news: 360 owners have to pay 560 points for it

$7 is not that bad.

[Sharp Katana]

Finally got nothing special today. Still looking for a few people to play expert or versus with.

[Kaijufan]

$7 is not that bad.
The $0 I'll be paying is much better though. ;)

[SumOG]

sup sharp
seems like when u sign on...i go to sleep
=/
im down for some expert or cheesements
versus is fun too...need good team tho...smoker gets one person...boomer gets the people trying to save the constricted person...and the hunters take cares of the rest

[Ink.So.Well.]

it's so much more than a new campaign though, this is definitely a buy hey geist looks like we'll playing soon again LOL

LOL Word. I'm definitely looking forward to teaming up with you, Ivan and Anexan again. We always do work.

[SynGamer]

$7 is not that bad.

It is when PC users are getting it for free. I'll pass, I have better things to put my $7 towards, like reserving MW2.

[A Happy Panda]

It is when PC users are getting it for free. I'll pass, I have better things to put my $7 towards, like reserving MW2.

? I'm really hoping you have never bought a piece of DLC for game that was both on PC and 360 then...

[yukafls]

Sounds cool, im always up for expanding the story on a good game

[Owen]

All of the idiots boycotting L4D2 because they were convinced that it's existence meant that Valve was dropping support for L4D1 can all kill themselves now, please.

Lets see if they actually release any original DLC for the game after L4D2 comes out before we praise Valve for its continued support of L4D. At last years E3 I remember one of the Devs I was talking to mention that they were hoping to have a new campaign released every few month but since it was Valve I always will believe it when I see it as everything they do is at a turtle's pace and they always talk big before a game is released.

[Jbently]

That $7 could be better spent on putting it towards getting the PC version of L4D as well since it's about 25% of the cost of the game, plus you'd get access to all the user created campaigns as well....for free.

I think that's what I'll be doing instead of getting it for the 360

[Galego23]

if you have a gaming PC, then yeah sure I advise the above, but I like many on here don't own a gaming PC and therefore these $7 are worth it, imo.

[sublime90]

i want to play the level but damn microsoft 560 points for one campaign??? not interested, you can fly through these levels with other people in your crew. id be willing if it was 300 points but i dont want to use my points for one campaign.

[Anexanhume]

i want to play the level but damn microsoft 560 points for one campaign??? not interested, you can fly through these levels with other people in your crew. id be willing if it was 300 points but i dont want to use my points for one campaign.

You don't play a campaign just once.

[Ryuukishi]

I'm definitely picking this up. 250 new achievement points would be awesome.

[sublime90]

You don't play a campaign just once.

really? ive only played through the campaigns like 3 times each at the most. i like left 4 dead but the levels are the same just different in the way the enemies come at you.

[reformed stoner]

i think it should be free on the xbox like valve said it would.

[draven1089]

it would be free but our love microsoft makes them charge, now for the people saying we get a new campaign, I'd call it more of a half campaign seeing as the versus will only take 30 minutes. As much as I love this game I don't think I can talk myself into spending 7 bucks (even tho that isn't bad) on a half baked add on. Valve what are you doing? They use to be so reliable well except for release dates.

[FluxDF]

I thought it was said that XBLA items could be free if they were available free elsewhere. This should qualify for that.

[007]

My guess is that charging simply isn't Valve's decision. That doesn't really explain why the first one snuck in for free and this one didn't, but I refuse to believe they sat around going '360? Yeah, charging for it! Money, bitches!'.

If anything, I'd assume that the fact that it's *only* 560 points *is* Valve's doing. That's a weird number, one that MS wouldn't have arbitrarily picked themselves. It's totally possible that MS wanted 800 for it, and Valve talked them down... they just couldn't get it down to free.

Honestly, of all companies, I refuse to believe that Valve is out to screw us over.

[Techsticles]

My guess is that charging simply isn't Valve's decision. That doesn't really explain why the first one snuck in for free and this one didn't, but I refuse to believe they sat around going '360? Yeah, charging for it! Money, bitches!'.
The first one wasn't more than a huge title update full of fixes. It didn't add a whole new campaign to play, mostly a lot of multiplayer enhancements...

[crzyjoeguy]

from what i understand, microsoft told valve that they could only release one free dlc, valve chose survival, so microsoft is making them charge for this. i would buy it, if it was 5 chapters long. but it is only going to be 2 chapters because valve wants you to be able to beat it in 15 minutes so that the multiplayer can be done in under a 1/2 hour (between the two teams each playing through once.)

[freshzen]

Damn 560 points doesn't seem worth it for just 2 chapters. I'll get it cause I'm an achievement whore but I won't be happy about it. Hopefully I can get a cheap copy of Left 4 Dead before it comes out since I already got rid of the one I was using.

[draven1089]

Damn 560 points doesn't seem worth it for just 2 chapters. I'll get it cause I'm an achievement whore but I won't be happy about it. Hopefully I can get a cheap copy of Left 4 Dead before it comes out since I already got rid of the one I was using.


sorry but no new achievements

[Ryuukishi]

Regarding Crash Course having only two chapters and no new achievements, are you guys just guessing or has this been said somewhere?

[draven1089]

it's been said, read the press release

[crzyjoeguy]

http://store.steampowered.com/news/2708/


dosnt say 2 chapters, i forget where i saw that. but this article does say

"While containing both Survival maps and a Co-operative Campaign, the primary goal of "Crash" is to deliver a complete Versus mode experience in just 30 minutes, resulting in a streamlined version of the game's existing Versus campaigns"

[strongpimphand]

Maybe they'll offer a 1st week discount of 33% a la Tiger Woods 10 charging only 400 points instead of 600 for a course they...had...last...game...

[A Happy Panda]

Maybe they'll offer a 1st week discount of 33% a la Tiger Woods 10 charging only 400 points instead of 600 for a course they...had...last...game...

<3 EA Sports.

[freshzen]

sorry but no new achievements

Actually that is good news for me, I can just ignore it all together. Who takes L4D versus seriously anyway? =P

[Kevlar281]

sorry but no new achievements

That's all I needed to know. I won't be buying it.

[sublime90]

im going back on my balls here. at first i was like hellll noooo im not paying for the new dlc but ive been playing online again vs, survival and campaigns.....im actually tempted to play this dlc when it drops now. survival mode is addicting

[Galego23]

there is no press release saying that there will NOT be new achievements what are you guys reading that I am not?

[Galego23]

http://kotaku.com/5337177/left-4-dead-2s-latest-campaign-takes-you-to-the-fairgrounds

videos from L4D 2 new campaign Fairgrounds and L4D1 New DLC

[draven1089]

OMG, a katana and a gernade luncher, that's all I need

[Azumangaman]

I have this game now, anybody want to get a group of 4 to go through the expert campaigns?

[soccerstud652]

I'm down, still need 2 and 3 to get the expert achievement.

[chimpster1313]

i would be up for it. i've only done no mercy on expert, so i still need the achievement, too.

[Screwhead281]

Is the replay value high on this game? It looks good I just don't want to buy it and play once and forget about it. And is it a long or short campaign?

[sublime90]

im down for a crown to. after watching that GTTV episode i realize how bad i want the DLC and L4D2 ......and i still need to play half life 2, i have it just never played it.

[SumOG]

wen u people plan on playing expert?

[Ryuukishi]

Is the replay value high on this game? It looks good I just don't want to buy it and play once and forget about it. And is it a long or short campaign?
It is all about replay. If you're thinking that you'll just go through each campaign once and then be done, you'll get less than 4 hours out of the game.

[draven1089]

any one hear or read any new news about the new DLC or L4D2??? I know they'er supose to be releasing info at PAX.

[Ryuukishi]

I'm surprised we don't know more about the Crash Course DLC given that it's supposed to come out this month. I'd still like to know if the game is getting new Achievements or not.

[Galego23]

ask and you shall receieve


Left 4 Dead fans have a lot to look forward to with the upcoming expansion pack, "Crash Course (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/08/new-left-4-dead-campaign-with-revamped-vs-in-september.ars)." Unfortunately, though, different platform versions are going to carry different prices: the download will be free for PC players, but it will cost Xbox 360 gamers 560 MS Points. While that might seem unfair, Valve has revealed that the Xbox Live price was something forced on them.
In an interview with Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/l4d1-dlc-pricing-not-valves-decision), Valve writer Chet Faliszek explained that the developer would prefer to make expansions and add-on content free for its customers. This is why the PC version of Crash Course won't cost gamers a thing; Microsoft, on the other hand, wouldn't let this happen.
According to Faliszek, "[Microsoft] helped us get the first one out for free. We had the one DLC out for free. And I think... they have to look and say, wow, we're kind of being unfair to everybody else if these guys can do that. It's not like [Valve is] looking at this as, 'Oh my god, we need some money, we're going to charge,' obviously, or we'd do it on the PC. So it's just kind of the way the system works right now."

[Halo05]

I'm happy about the new stuff for L4D. I'm finally getting around to owning a copy after a couple rentals and having some new stuff will ensure a decent number of players online.

[draven1089]

any news on the crash course dlc?

[chankk]

L4D is great... The way they have it set up for XBL is perfect. cant wait for l4d2

[HydroX]

If Crash Course isn't out Tuesday or during the usual Wednesday XBL updates, then it will probably be another week or more until it's released.

[DiscoDuck8k]

Well, since there's that Game With Fame thing featuring Paramore on the 23rd, it must be very soon. Right?

I'm still curious whether this is going to add new achievements or not too.

[KiLL3r]

Well, since there's that Game With Fame thing featuring Paramore on the 23rd, it must be very soon. Right?

I'm still curious whether this is going to add new achievements or not too.

They've said that there will be no new achievements for crash course.

[Ryuukishi]

They've said that there will be no new achievements for crash course.
Sorry, but do you have a link to where this info comes from Valve? A couple people have said it in the thread but I haven't seen any place where this is confirmed by Valve. Don't mean to call you out but I'd just like to see it from the horse's mouth. Thanks.

[HydroX]

There is an update/patch for left 4 dead today that, so far, I've seen an updated HUD and improved (see: different) spawns.

Also if you look at the achievements on your main menu screen, they are all marked as locked. I have 47 of 50 of them, but at the top it reads 60 achievements.

So I believe it's safe to assume there will be 10 new achivements with the Crash Course update. What they are, we will not know until it is released tomorrow (Wednesday!)

[draven1089]

There is an update/patch for left 4 dead today that, so far, I've seen an updated HUD and improved (see: different) spawns.

Also if you look at the achievements on your main menu screen, they are all marked as locked. I have 47 of 50 of them, but at the top it reads 60 achievements.

So I believe it's safe to assume there will be 10 new achivements with the Crash Course update. What they are, we will not know until it is released tomorrow (Wednesday!)



I see nothing about this, if there were 10 more achivements it'd be showing on xbox live as well. Not just an updated console

[Galego23]

There is an update/patch for left 4 dead today that, so far, I've seen an updated HUD and improved (see: different) spawns.

Also if you look at the achievements on your main menu screen, they are all marked as locked. I have 47 of 50 of them, but at the top it reads 60 achievements.

So I believe it's safe to assume there will be 10 new achivements with the Crash Course update. What they are, we will not know until it is released tomorrow (Wednesday!)

The patch is all the updates that came in the original PC patch such as the Tank being able to hit more than one person, numerous amounts of glitches and the twp things you stated above. I would assume it got rid of the power-shot glitch as well.

I kept telling people in this thread that new achievements were coming but no one would listen.

Edit: Draven the title update has been confirmed in the Valve Left 4 Dead forums, I don't see how you would even doubt this regardless if it has been updated on marketplace or not.

[Galego23]

glitches that have been fixed:
Powershot
ghost slap
joining as spectator in a full game

updates
Infected hud has been updated new white (vomit) decal behind temates health
bar
as infected can now see your teamates recharge attacks
item spawns are now identical in versus mode only

this list is being updated as i go through

current problem with new update is servers bad lagg connection been in 10 games all red bar connection

infected cant climb up some climb points that used to be avalible for example roof of dead air chapeter 1 second roof.

I'm on the 360 and the ingame achievement browser (the one in the menu, not the myriad of other ways to view achievements) does say 60 achievements.

The 'achieved' flag seems to have been reset for all of them even though the progression for the ones that need a certain amount of kills is still there. So for example I have all the kills needed for zombie genocide, yet the achievement still appears to be locked in the ingame achievement browser, but not in my normal achievement display. The confusion is that at the top it says 60
but the bottom says 50
Here are the pics:
http://i38.tinypic.com/23wphlx.jpg
http://i36.tinypic.com/2ujgtuw.jpg

So this pretty much confirms that we will be getting new achievements which I have been saying all along.

[draven1089]

didn't doubt the update doubted the achievements, but thanks to your pic I'm a believer

[Galego23]

http://kotaku.com/5365111/

kotaku has much more details.

[DiscoDuck8k]

Sounds good! I was looking forward to playing L4D again anyway, but achievements are a nice bonus.

[draven1089]

Thanks Galego23

[IvanHood]

Galego, Geist, anyone else want to go expert campaigning this weekend? I haven't played this game in months.

[Galego23]

yep I'm down, I sent you and geist a message over Live. I can play nights usually after 830 or 9 pm est

[draven1089]

I'll run some expert, hmmmm I wonder if one of the new ACH is beating crash course on expert. Damn I need to get back into l4d shape.

[Link127]

looking to finally get into this game. i haven't played through it yet even once, but if anyone wants a 4th person for campaign run-through send me an XBL message.

looking for all the achievements!

[draven1089]

crash course should be out today
http://www.l4d-news.de/gal_details.php?go=detail&cat_id=2480&id=131463

[Ink.So.Well.]

I'm down for this weekend (after work 11:30 - 12 PM-ish Eastern Standard) and later tonight. Just send me an invite when you guys are ready to squad up. With L4D2 so close to release we all could probably use some practice, haha.

[draven1089]

Ink.So.Well, where did you go from my friends list? We had a few runs on l4d, wanna try out the new DLC?

[Ink.So.Well.]

Ah... my bad. Just send me another FR if you don't mind. My list fills up often so sometimes I end up cutting people if I can't recall where I met them from or they don't respond to my ritual forewarning message.

As a matter of fact I now notice I'm 7 friends away from a full list so it's time to start cutting again. LOL... ugh.

[draven1089]

invite sent, Badkins1980 is my gamertag

[KiLL3r]

Sorry, but do you have a link to where this info comes from Valve? A couple people have said it in the thread but I haven't seen any place where this is confirmed by Valve. Don't mean to call you out but I'd just like to see it from the horse's mouth. Thanks.

I saw/heard it from L4D2 episode of Gametrailers TV. But now that they've added those achievement I will Download it when it arrive in the market place.

[draven1089]

DLC over here! Valve has announced that, next Tuesday, fans of Left 4 Dead (http://www.joystiq.com/tag/left-4-dead) will get a new campaign to play. "Crash Course (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/04/left-4-dead-crash-course-campaign-dlc-free-on-pc-7-on-360/)" will take place between the events of "No Mercy" and "Death Toll," providing a series of survival maps and a streamlined version of Versus mode on top of the new co-op campaign action. The DLC will be free for PC on September 29 ... and 560http://www.blogcdn.com/www.xbox360fanboy.com/media/2007/11/microsoftpointslogosmall.gif ($7) for the Xbox 360 version. Did you hear (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/01/left-4-dead-2-nov-17-on-xbox-360-pc/): a true sequel will be out just 7 weeks later?

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/09/23/left-4-deads-crash-course-landing-september-29/

[DiscoDuck8k]

Figured it wouldn't be this week.

Oh well, at least I've got other things to play until then.

[KrayzieKMF]

Hmm don't think I want to spend $7 on this when 2 is on its way. Damn I knew I should have bought the PC version. $20 cheaper and free dlc.

[yukafls]

HELL NO, I thought the dlc campaign was free. No way would i pay for one map that i would probably beat in 1 hour

[Halo05]

I'll buy it. I know I'll play it more than a couple times.

Oddly, my favorite thing about L4D is the little touches that the creators put in that make it seem like a fucking zombie apocalypse. The desperate scribblings on the walls, the wrecked and abandoned cars, the remnants of a world being cut down. It's all just so chilling, I'll happily pay to see more of that stuff. I've enjoyed pretty much every Resident Evil game but none of them captured the chaos of the end days nearly as well as L4D does.

[chankk]

pay for l4d dlc?? yeah right... i ll just wait for l4d 2

[1million]

Im interested to see what this campaign has to offer. It should have been free but hey $7 isn't nothing.

[draven1089]

Honestly if it was up to Valve it would have been free but our buddies at microsoft are forcing them to put a price on it. Heck they even wanted to charge for the survival pack. So blame good old microsoft for that.

[OnyxPrimal]

It does however make me wonder if they will pull a "Behemoth" and give away a ton of codes for DLC for free.

[draven1089]

It does however make me wonder if they will pull a "Behemoth" and give away a ton of codes for DLC for free.


you sir have brought up a good point and I will now wait a little while before picking up the DLC

[tenma]

HELL NO, I thought the dlc campaign was free. No way would i pay for one map that i would probably beat in 1 hour

You shouldn't judge L4D maps based on how long they take to beat, but how many times you'll replay them online.

I agree that it sucks that it costs money, but unfortunately that was Microsoft's call and not Valve's. I'll wait til I get L4D2 probably in case it's packed in with it.

[Ryuukishi]

The new achievements are on Xbox.com.

Crash-proof
Survive the Crash Course Campaign.

Quick Power
Restart the generator within 30 seconds of it shutting off in the Crash Course campaign.

The Littlest Genocide
Kill 5,359 Infected in the Crash Course campaign.

Smash Hit
Win a Versus campaign of Crash Course.

Truck Stop
Your team wipes all Survivors after the escape vehicle has opened in Crash Course.

20 Car Pile-up
As a Tank hit 20 Survivors with a car in the Crash Course campaign.

Jumpin' Jack Smash
Pounce a Survivor for 25 points of damage in the Crash Course campaign.

Slippery Pull
Smoker pull a bile-covered Survivor until you hold him during Crash Course.

Tank Stumble
Stun a Tank with an explosion in the Crash Course campaign.

Wipefest
Your team incapacitates three Survivors within five seconds in the Crash Course campaign.

[Galego23]

some of those achievements look tough, can't wait for this

[DiscoDuck8k]

Nice to see some varied achievements. Looking forward to playing it.

[draven1089]

Grrrrr so hard to not get this, The new ACH's sound like fun. Hmmm incaping 3 survivors in 5 seconds sounds a bit tough.

[Soodmeg]

Was it ever confirmed if L4D2 will be backwards compatible to allow you to play L4D1 without switching disks?

I want as much L4D content as possible but I dont know if I would buy this a month before the new game comes out.

[notoriousxbox]

Cant wait, easily one of my favorites games.

[Lions]

New L4D stuff comes out tomorrow, right? I have points waiting. Will keep me busy til november.
Well, probably not, but, I have a huge backlog anyway.

[Galego23]

wait wtf it's 800 points? what happened to 560?

edit: OK according to Major Nelson twitter it's a pricing error and he advises not to buy until price is fixed.

Also, on Xbox.com Marketplace it does show for 560 MSP but when you click to buy it still comes up as 800 MSP.

[HydroX]

fuck, too late. I already bought it. I demand a refund!

[Galego23]

fuck, too late. I already bought it. I demand a refund!

that sucks man lol I hope they give you a refund but the way Major Nelson was advising not to purchase it until MS fixed it I don't know if they will lol.

[HydroX]

that sucks man lol I hope they give you a refund but the way Major Nelson was advising not to purchase it until MS fixed it I don't know if they will lol.

lol well not everyone sees Major Nelson's twitter. I never looked at it until it was posted in this thread. I doubt they will refund it but I'll still be able to throw a bitchfit to MS, so that should be fun/irritating.

[joshthegreat69]

Is there any way to get small amounts of gamer points? I currently have 550 points and I need 10 more to get the DLC. MSFT really pisses me off with this point system and their random amounts. I'm glad that it is cheaper though.

[chimpster1313]

i dunno if this has been updated, but the pricing has officially changed as of about 20 minutes ago, because i bought crash course then and it was down to 560. so no need to worry about the wrong price anymore.

[Galego23]

I think the pricing has been fixed a good hour or to ago.. at least on xbox. com and as for getting a small amount of points I tihnk 1600 is the least you can get.

[Ryuukishi]

Any fix for the resets on the achievement progress screen?

[Superfro33]

Any fix for the resets on the achievement progress screen?

Ugh...this does not sound promising. :cry:

[Galego23]

Any fix for the resets on the achievement progress screen?

what fix? there is nothing wrong with achievements what so ever.. no one lost their gamerscore and/or Zombie Kills and the achievements only appeared unlock when you looked at the achievements from the in-game menu.,

[Ryuukishi]

Nothing wrong whatsoever? The progress screen was totally wiped. I'd say that's pretty clearly a bug in the latest patch even if it didn't actually prevent achievements from unlocking correctly.

[Galego23]

Nothing wrong whatsoever? The progress screen was totally wiped. I'd say that's pretty clearly a bug in the latest patch even if it didn't actually prevent achievements from unlocking correctly.

Re-read what I said, it didn't effect your gamerscore, any achievements you had already earned, and your kill total. What's so hard to understand?

Yes, so what it showed your achievements as being locked from the L4D menu if you go to your achievement list via the Xbox Guide they were/are still there.

[Ryuukishi]

Re-read what I said, it didn't effect your gamerscore, any achievements you had already earned, and your kill total. What's so hard to understand?

Yes, so what it showed your achievements as being locked from the L4D menu if you go to your achievement list via the Xbox Guide they were/are still there.
That's exactly what I said in the first place. :) "Resets on the achievement progress screen." Didn't say anything about gamerscore. Maybe you have me mixed up with someone else?

[Outinthedark]

So uh how about someone chime in on why this "Campaign" has only 2 chapters?

[chimpster1313]

So uh how about someone chime in on why this "Campaign" has only 2 chapters?

valve said they wanted to make a campaign you could complete in 30 minutes. thus...........2 chapters.

[Halo05]

Uh oh, urge to purchase, declining...

I'll still get it. I'm flush with points at the moment.

[Sharp Katana]

That's exactly what I said in the first place. :) "Resets on the achievement progress screen." Didn't say anything about gamerscore. Maybe you have me mixed up with someone else?

I think it's just a minor bug. Half of my in game achievements were wiped too. But after I played the campaign again I got all my progress back.

[Hydro2Oxide]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-KbxXIwvBg&fmt=22

I'm just going to leave this here.

[draven1089]

/\ /\ /\ /\ funny as hell


What the hell is going on with Valves servers? Not to mention the freaking new board is glitched all to hell

[sublime90]

1 question. is crash course worth it?

[Deadpool]

I think the pricing has been fixed a good hour or to ago.. at least on xbox. com and as for getting a small amount of points I tihnk 1600 is the least you can get.

Try 400 points if you are purchasing. You can sometimes find McDonalds Subway and other random retailers giving away points 100 at a time.

I love the new mini campaign. It's hard as hell to get all 4 people to survive in versus against a semi competent opposing team. Worth the $7 even with the few glitches i've encountered so far. :applause:

[doc_zaius]

I'm looking for some crash course action and playing with randoms is not doing it for me, add me if your interested!

[Galego23]

Try 400 points if you are purchasing. You can sometimes find McDonalds Subway and other random retailers giving away points 100 at a time.


I wouldn't exactly call buying a sandwich or a value meal as "giving away" points. You have to purchase a product to actually get the "free points."

[draven1089]

any one know if they're or when they're going to be fixing the ACH glitch for crash course

[Ryuukishi]

any one know if they're or when they're going to be fixing the ACH glitch for crash course
Someone on the xbox360achievements.com forums emailed Valve, and they said they were readying a patch, but it had to go through Microsoft's approval process first.

[Booyabobby]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-KbxXIwvBg&fmt=22

I'm just going to leave this here.


Hahaha love it. great find.

[Galego23]

For those of you, like myself, who find Expert to be not that hard at all

Valve (http://kotaku.com/tag/valve/) Left 4 Dead 2 Gets "Realism" Mode For Hardcore Zombie Killers (http://kotaku.com/5377453/left-4-dead-2-gets-realism-mode-for-hardcore-zombie-killers)

By Michael McWhertor (http://kotaku.com/people/Geek/posts/), 2:40 PM (http://kotaku.com/5377453/left-4-dead-2-gets-realism-mode-for-hardcore-zombie-killers) on Thu Oct 8 2009, 30,298 views (Edit (http://publish.kotaku.com/ged/5377453), to draft (http://kotaku.com/5377453/left-4-dead-2-gets-realism-mode-for-hardcore-zombie-killers#), Slurp (http://kotaku.com/5377453/left-4-dead-2-gets-realism-mode-for-hardcore-zombie-killers#)) Copy this whole post to another site
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http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/10/500x_500x_custom_1254977668875_Scavenge_01_01.jpg (http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/10/500x_custom_1254977668875_Scavenge_01_01.jpg)For players who find "expert" difficulty too easy in Left 4 Dead, it appears that Valve is upping the challenge for the sequel with "Realism" mode, a game modifier that made an unplanned appearance last night.
The folks at 1UP (http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3176408) spotted the Realism modifier nestled away in one of the game's options, then squeezed Valve for details. According to marketing VP Doug Lombardi, Realism is designed for the Left 4 Dead 2 (http://kotaku.com/tag/left-4-dead-2/) player more skilled, more masochistic than Valve's own testers.
How it's different, exactly, Lombardi wouldn't elaborate. But one might assume that Realism makes the infected in L4D2 act more like their real-world counterparts, requiring headshots to properly dispatch of the game's zombie hordes. That's just a guess, though.
Valve's other Left 4 Dead 2 reveal from last night's event, the "Scavenge" gameplay mode (http://kotaku.com/5376845/left-4-dead-2-scavenge-mode-preview-giving-multiplayer-the-gas), can be read in more detail. With the game due out November 17th, expect Realism and the rest of the game's well-kept secrets to be revealed soon.
Left 4 Dead 2 Preview (http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3176408) [1UP]


We've been heard.

[draven1089]

noticed last night that they've added the tanks in to crash course this might be a sign of the new updates for crash course.

[crunchewy]

I'm interested in this game, but not in paying full price for the sequel. My question, will you still be able to play the original online once the new version is out... and will there be anyone to play it with?

[doc_zaius]

I'm still looking to play more crash course. If any cags out there are still interested in playing send me an add!

[Galego23]

I'm interested in this game, but not in paying full price for the sequel. My question, will you still be able to play the original online once the new version is out... and will there be anyone to play it with?

According to Valve, they will NOT stop supporting left 4 dead.

Left 4 Dead will have it's own community and Left 4 Dead 2 will have theirs.

[freshzen]

Regarding the Crash Course achievements, the campaign achievements shouldn't be glitched at all. To obtain the versus achievements you need to disconnect from Xbox Live and create a lobby with system link. Currently system link is the only way to unlock Jumpin' Jack Flash and Smash Hit, possibly others as well. I got Wipefest in my first legit game of Crash Course versus and that was less than a week ago. The only achievement that might currently be unachievable is Slippery Pull because you can't do it in system link and I have tried split screen, as well as with a friend in private, public, and friends only matces and could never get it to unlock.

[HydroX]

Currently system link is the only way to unlock Jumpin' Jack Flash and Smash Hit.

Wrong. I have both and got them in online matches. It seems that they are glitched sometimes for some people .. and it seems totally random, but I got all of the ones I have by just playing online like I usually do.

[draven1089]

I got some on day one but after that I'm not able to get any and my zombie count keeps resetting, Grrrrrrrrr

[Galego23]

I think you all are more or less wrong.. the achievements aren't showing up because probably you are doing quick match and joining an "in-progress" match. Achievements will not unlock for a person joining an "in-progress" match a glitch they patched due to the "dashboard glitch."

[draven1089]

I think you all are more or less wrong.. the achievements aren't showing up because probably you are doing quick match and joining an "in-progress" match. Achievements will not unlock for a person joining an "in-progress" match a glitch they patched due to the "dashboard glitch."


you are wrong my friend, I've started matches (being loby leader) and have played from beggining to end and still can't get them. But lets say your right, explain why my body count keeps resetting????

[Galego23]

if you get disconnected from a game and/or leave early I think it resets

[draven1089]

Maybe but i don't drop out, so there's a huge hole in your theory.

[Galego23]

k, awesome.

[Ryuukishi]

There are definitely problems with the Crash Course achievements, including the Genocide count randomly resetting. It's all over sites like xbox360achievements.com. We just need to wait for a patch to fix this stuff.

[draven1089]

What did Galego do to get banned? Does anybody know any info about when a patch is coming?

[draven1089]

Achievements are now working, finally got slippery pull last night.

[Kevlar281]

Wow, I had no idea that there were new achievements for the Crash Course DLC. I'm really out of the loop because of school.

[soccerstud652]

Anyone down for some co-op on expert?

[soccerstud652]

I'm still looking to finish missions 2 and 3 on expert, does anyone want to give it a shot?

[evildeadjedi]

I will be getting this soon from Goozex hopefully and be game for co-op or vs.

[stratmancj]

More servers just added to fix lag problems:

"We have upgraded our network infrastructure to better accommodate the huge response to L4D2. 360 players will now have lag-free servers. We've also added more dedicated servers.

We will continue to monitor the situation and add resources as needed.

Thank you for your patience. Now quit reading this, get out there and kill some zombies!"

http://www.l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=3160

[evildeadjedi]

I got this coming from Goozex in a few days if anyone is still playing.

[evildeadjedi]

Just got it today and would like to play with some people.

[soccerstud652]

Send me a message I'm down.

[A Happy Panda]

blah.

[mcgavin27]

Lookin for folks to go through Dark Carnival, Hard Rain and the Parish. On now.
Not to be rude but you do know this is the left 4 dead 1 thread not left 4 dead 2?

[A Happy Panda]

Not to be rude but you do know this is the left 4 dead 1 thread not left 4 dead 2?

Oops, wasn't paying attention. I'm subscribed to both threads and didnt pay attention the title, just saw L4D and posted.

[evildeadjedi]

Send me a message I'm down.

Sent friend request

[wjhard63]

Just got it today and would like to play with some people.

If you need another, I'd love to play some co-op with some fellow CAG's.

[evildeadjedi]

If you need another, I'd love to play some co-op with some fellow CAG's.


Cool sent friend request.

[paz9x]

im in for this as well. i played a bit back when this came out and ill be geting lfd2 for xmas so id like to get back into this a bit before then.

[wjhard63]

Cool sent friend request.
Thanks, I accepted it earlier this afternoon. I should be on around midnight EST tonight if anyone wants to give it a go tonight.

[evildeadjedi]

I had one more assignment to complete for college so I never made it on yesterday.

[wjhard63]

I had one more assignment to complete for college so I never made it on yesterday.

No worries, been there and done that twice over (undergrad & MBA). I'll be on in a bit, but I might be boosting Dark Sector with another CAG before I jump to L4D. If we don't end up getting a party together for DS, I'll be on L4D asap.

[yester]

oops i am kind a late i guess.
Just got that game and have to say, its really fun. Lucky me, there are still people playing it. But sometimes i think there a bots.
GG

[chankk]

add me guys i need to beat all the missions on expert