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BostonCollegeFan
03-03-2009, 03:49 PM
Honestly, IMHO, squad leaders are pretty useless if you have a good tactition.

Thomas96
03-03-2009, 03:50 PM
do you get ribbons for taking out turrets? Becuase I've taken some out, and never got a ribbon for it.

BostonCollegeFan
03-03-2009, 03:53 PM
Nope

Coper3000
03-03-2009, 03:58 PM
Whats up with the Assault badge? The first time I unlocked this I was able to choose from 3 different rocket launchers, 2 actual rocket launchers, and one gun that shoots these bombs that bounce all over the place, and after that first game I can only choose the gun that spurts bombs out. The rocket launchers are no longer there for me to switch to. Anyone else unlocked this yet?

Thomas96
03-03-2009, 04:07 PM
Good game last night. Oh yeah, zew you got some more KZ tips.. the one you gave earlier worked good last night. Improved my score (a bit). This game isn't coming natural to me like COD does, I'm still on that learning curve.

Maklershed
03-03-2009, 04:12 PM
Killzone.com seems to be down atm. Also, Sev continues to get shorter the more I play through the Campaign.


That's so funny you say that cause I noticed the same thing. I think it was on the bridge of the ship after you slam your fists on Garza's coffin.. I was standing there next to the other squad members and they were so much taller than me and I was thinking WTF. So I started pressing the crouch button cause I thought it was stuck or something. :lol:




Even as a medic I'm crazy. I'll be knee deep in the enemy just to revive or health pack friendlies. Just don't force me to be squad leader.



I'm the same way. I'll run straight out into the Saluman Market square to revive someone and then quick run back into the building. And if I'm not mistaken, you can zap people with that charger if you want to be a real medic warrior.

NamPaehc
03-03-2009, 04:13 PM
Honestly, IMHO, squad leaders are pretty useless if you have a good tactition.

Yeah, I'm surprised that anyone can throw the spawn points and not just a SL.

I like to cloak and hide in a corner and let my team members spawn on me too. Works well since that doesn't fade with time.

tenchi
03-03-2009, 04:17 PM
I saw your turrets all over the damn place last night. I know once it was on the enemy team and I'd toss a grenade and shoot it once or twice with the gun and it'd die. Of course, I was always getting taken out by someone attending it or walking by, but it was a suicide mission I was glad to take on. :D Then I think you were on my team and I saw them constantly as well. I was always checking if they were yours or the permanently placed ones.

I like using them liberally around where the action is or put the where I expect enemy to be coming from. In smaller maps, I tend to hang around them. They're like the eyes in the back of my head. When I hear them going off, I know an attack is coming from that direction and either move to flank to take them out since my turret weakened them or get into a better position in the room to take on whoever is coming. They also knock out drones with rockets so on open maps if I see drones, I drop a turret nearby. On that one vasari hammer map I think my turrets probably took out a good 10-15 drones during an open field fire fight.

zenprime
03-03-2009, 04:22 PM
I'm the same way. I'll run straight out into the Saluman Market square to revive someone and then quick run back into the building. And if I'm not mistaken, you can zap people with that charger if you want to be a real medic warrior.

LOL. I've at least killed 5 people by meleeing them with the medic zapper since I was too busy to switch to the gun.

mguiddy
03-03-2009, 04:24 PM
They want aim assist back.

:lol:
I've never been a fan of the CoD series, but I just recently played CoD2 on :360: and aim assist was just annoying. Half the time it didn't work right. Maybe it was improved in later versions though.

Um does anyone experience small bits of freezing during the single player campaign while loading? Every time it begins to load, everything freezes for a few seconds and then it's fine. It's actually gotten me killed at least twice.

Yes. It's not long and not in the middle of anything, but it's annoying.

whoknows
03-03-2009, 04:31 PM
That's so funny you say that cause I noticed the same thing. I think it was on the bridge of the ship after you slam your fists on Garza's coffin.. I was standing there next to the other squad members and they were so much taller than me and I was thinking WTF. So I started pressing the crouch button cause I thought it was stuck or something. :lol:

I thought that too, then I thought it was a glitch or something so I restarted the game :lol:

Thomas96
03-03-2009, 04:32 PM
You guys know of any PS3 headset deals.

John Hyperion
03-03-2009, 04:37 PM
Yes. It's not long and not in the middle of anything, but it's annoying.

Maybe I play too many PC games, but I thought all games were like that while loading?

help1
03-03-2009, 04:39 PM
I heard something about a patch to change the aiming or the control configuration... or both? Any truth to this?




Guerrilla Games said they are looking into it.

http://playstation.joystiq.com/2009/03/02/guerrilla-fixing-killzone-2-bugs-looking-into-control-complaint/

help1
03-03-2009, 04:42 PM
You guys know of any PS3 headset deals.

Any run of the mill cellphone bluetooth headphone will work.

tenchi
03-03-2009, 05:18 PM
Guerrilla Games said they are looking into it.

http://playstation.joystiq.com/2009/03/02/guerrilla-fixing-killzone-2-bugs-looking-into-control-complaint/

here's the thread on the official playstation forum about what the devs are working on for the patch. This info is straight from the devs so not rumor or random guesses.

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=killzone2&thread.id=217956

jughead
03-03-2009, 05:28 PM
You guys know of any PS3 headset deals.

Be careful. Especially if you have a surround sound system. Some bluetooths can be super quiet. I am in the process of picking up a super loud one so I can actually communicate with people on PSN.

Thomas96
03-03-2009, 05:59 PM
Any run of the mill cellphone bluetooth headphone will work.

yeah, I have a run of the mill Headset, and I also have the warhawk jabra set. I was thinking about upgrading to the PS3 one though. Or maybe I should just wait..

mguiddy
03-03-2009, 06:10 PM
Maybe I play too many PC games, but I thought all games were like that while loading?
Loading, yeah, but I've played plenty of games where it would either load the entire level or did intermittent loading smoothly enough I didn't notice.

Thomas96
03-03-2009, 06:19 PM
Be careful. Especially if you have a surround sound system. Some bluetooths can be super quiet. I am in the process of picking up a super loud one so I can actually communicate with people on PSN.

my issue is that I don't feel like I'm getting the messages, I don't hear people talking that much, its not clear, and I don't think I'm getting the entire message when people talk... its like its getting cut off. I was thinking that it might be an router issue, but I figured I'd try to upgrade the headset first and see if thre's an improvement.

KingBroly
03-03-2009, 06:30 PM
Another thing on the whole 'hero is short' rant from earlier. In the opening cutscene, Sev is taller than Rico.

dallow
03-03-2009, 06:33 PM
my issue is that I don't feel like I'm getting the messages, I don't hear people talking that much, its not clear, and I don't think I'm getting the entire message when people talk... its like its getting cut off. I was thinking that it might be an router issue, but I figured I'd try to upgrade the headset first and see if thre's an improvement.
A lot of that is the fact that they are using cheap headsets.
You can tell when someone is using either a quality BT headset, or a wired USB one. Sound quality is pretty clear for the most part.

help1
03-03-2009, 07:18 PM
They updated the forum topic, especially in regards to the control issues:

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=killzone2&thread.id=217956&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

Controller Issues
We have not stopped looking into the complaints and will see what we can do about it. Any possible changes will have to be carefully implemented and tested before being deployed though.
We will have an update on this later this week.



Most likely this will be a long process until we get what we want, but it looks like they will further address it, and not patch it, in a week.

KingBroly
03-03-2009, 10:42 PM
Game froze as I got the final hit on the final boss

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

mguiddy
03-03-2009, 10:45 PM
About the short hero... I think Broly's right... I think we're not looking through his eyes, but through his chest. In a few scenes where the camera "flys into his head" you see it actually flys to near his shoulder... And I don't know why I'm so concerned about this. :lol:

And... it may not come to a surprise to those who I play Warhawk with, but when I checked my stats after beating the game I found that I had the most kills with... you ready... the knife. :rofl: Freaking priceless.

DarkNessBear
03-03-2009, 10:46 PM
Game froze as I got the final hit on the final boss

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

Ah balls! Don't worry I believe it saves at the part where you do 1 on 1.

That boss fight was really friggen hard. The part with all the guys with Rocket Launchers was a PAIN in the ass.
I froze a few times during the game aswell. Also I freeze a lot playing LBP. I don't know what's going on with the PS3.

John Hyperion
03-03-2009, 10:54 PM
Dear Players Killzone 2 world,

Nothing you are doing is more important than arming/disarming the bombs. Sort it out.

KingBroly
03-03-2009, 10:58 PM
Well, I did manage to turn it back on and beat it. Thankfully it did save right before the final part of that fight. Just...seriously, that fight is pretty ridiculous. I need to go back and get pretty much every piece of intel and Helghast signs. I think I destroyed...6 signs and got 8 pieces of Intel. At least this campaign's longer than Halo 3's...although not by much maybe 30 minutes.

JMEPO
03-03-2009, 11:03 PM
The rocket launcher electricity boss ship thingy is fucking hard. Anyone have any tips? I'd like to try and finish the campaign so I gotta get this over with.

mguiddy
03-03-2009, 11:05 PM
Well, I did manage to turn it back on and beat it. Thankfully it did save right before the final part of that fight. Just...seriously, that fight is pretty ridiculous. I need to go back and get pretty much every piece of intel and Helghast signs. I think I destroyed...6 signs and got 8 pieces of Intel. At least this campaign's longer than Halo 3's...although not by much maybe 30 minutes.
I was going to say I spent more time playing Halo 3, but I did it on... Mythic... or whatever the highest difficulty was, the first time through, so I tooook my time.:lol:

I noticed hanging back and taking out enemies don't work well in this game. At least in some areas they'll keep coming.

The rocket launcher electricity boss ship thingy is fucking hard. Anyone have any tips? I'd like to try and finish the campaign so I gotta get this over with.
I just played the entire SP campaign... and I don't know what you're talking about... :lol: You mean the ATAC thing? The thing that looks like a sentry bot?
Shoot the blue electricity things on whatever side of the building it's on. That stuns it, then shoot it with the rockets.

KingBroly
03-03-2009, 11:08 PM
The rocket launcher electricity boss ship thingy is fucking hard. Anyone have any tips? I'd like to try and finish the campaign so I gotta get this over with.

You have to shoot the Tesla Coils on either side and hope it goes over them, then send a rocket its' way.

whoknows
03-03-2009, 11:11 PM
The rocket launcher electricity boss ship thingy is fucking hard. Anyone have any tips? I'd like to try and finish the campaign so I gotta get this over with.

You should.........

Grab the rocket launcher, jump down on either side. There's a little tunnel where it can't get you. It'll come over though, shoot the blue things with your handgun, hit it with the rocket launcher when its stuck, after two shots hit the blue things again and then 2 more rocket launcher shots to finish it.

JMEPO
03-03-2009, 11:14 PM
Thanks guys, I'll have to give it a few more shots. Originally I thought you were supposed to shoot the ship itself :wall:

enufs8d
03-03-2009, 11:37 PM
i just wish if kz2 has a party system. arent you guys tired of not finding your friends? having them on the same team? or even squading up every match?

M_A_C
03-03-2009, 11:44 PM
i just wish if kz2 has a party system. arent you guys tired of not finding your friends? having them on the same team? or even squading up every match?

Yeah, I can't believe a top tier game like this didn't come with this feature.

Thomas96
03-03-2009, 11:44 PM
A lot of that is the fact that they are using cheap headsets.
You can tell when someone is using either a quality BT headset, or a wired USB one. Sound quality is pretty clear for the most part.

thanks ( I can hear mana really well.) - I might go wired to save money

wowzors
03-04-2009, 12:20 AM
whats every ones highest point value in 1 game? my max right now is 53.

genfuyung
03-04-2009, 12:21 AM
I just unlocked a badge but for some reason it wont let me assign it. Do you have to unlock the ability to use badges too?

Amerijapoxicano
03-04-2009, 04:27 AM
Great, I found out my Killzone 2 Home outfit code! But,...still not game. Thanks a lot, Amazon. It should be here today or tomorrow, though. Until then, I think I'll run around in Home looking like a large percent of other people.

Maklershed
03-04-2009, 08:31 AM
Unlocked the tactitoner thing last night. I can create spawn points now. :whee:

And I still haven't gotten 1 single turret ribbon yet. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I've used the engineer class for the past 30 games or so now and I just can't get 5 kills in a game with the stupid things. Either they're just worthless or people blow them up instantly. :(

Mr_Hoppy88
03-04-2009, 09:26 AM
i like the fact that hey almost force you to tweak the controls to what works best fo you.

someone should start a cag clan, id be up for joining and pwning in the name of cag! i would but im not a sergeant yet.

RelentlessRolento
03-04-2009, 10:31 AM
well, I'm halfway to unlocking the C4... I want a engineer that can toss around some C4... from there I'm set...

also about less than 200pts away from general.

Unlocked the tactitoner thing last night. I can create spawn points now. :whee:

And I still haven't gotten 1 single turret ribbon yet. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I've used the engineer class for the past 30 games or so now and I just can't get 5 kills in a game with the stupid things. Either they're just worthless or people blow them up instantly. :(

get ready to start fucking with the game as a tactitian... it's fun because you basically decide when you want chaos to start. not my type but it's fun.

for turret kills if you have a hard time just play longer game types (ie. rooms with all TDM, capture, assntn, etc.) and set your turrets on elevated surfaces and areas with open fences since turrets can shoot rigt through them.

I got 10 head shots with one well place turret. it was silly since all the kills were on snipers.

Maklershed
03-04-2009, 11:05 AM
for turret kills if you have a hard time just play longer game types (ie. rooms with all TDM, capture, assntn, etc.) and set your turrets on elevated surfaces and areas with open fences since turrets can shoot rigt through them.

I got 10 head shots with one well place turret. it was silly since all the kills were on snipers.


Ah you know what .. I didn't even think about that. I've solely been playing body count. Maybe it would help if I played something with more chaos like those mixed game types. And like you said .. find a room with longer games.

Thomas96
03-04-2009, 12:13 PM
well, I'm halfway to unlocking the C4... I want a engineer that can toss around some C4... from there I'm set...

also about less than 200pts away from general.



get ready to start fucking with the game as a tactitian... it's fun because you basically decide when you want chaos to start. not my type but it's fun.

for turret kills if you have a hard time just play longer game types (ie. rooms with all TDM, capture, assntn, etc.) and set your turrets on elevated surfaces and areas with open fences since turrets can shoot rigt through them.

I got 10 head shots with one well place turret. it was silly since all the kills were on snipers.

I hate your damn turrets! lol

dallow
03-04-2009, 12:21 PM
Everybody else get their Home costumes from Amazon today? :)

mykevermin
03-04-2009, 12:31 PM
Yeah, so I went into Home today. I spent $6 on digital Diesel Jeans and flower pots from the other store.

Aleman
03-04-2009, 01:06 PM
So I picked this up yesterday and played a lot of multiplayer... it's awesome. I just have some minor complaints about the controls:

I usually play on 360 and I'm having a hard time getting used to FPS on the PS3. I get hand cramps after about an hour with the DS3 and I have a really annoying issue where I accidentally activate R3 all the time when I'm aiming, especially in close quarters. The controls in general are a little frustrating but I'll adapt. I've tried both Standard 1 and Alt 2, neither of which is very good. I like having L1 for iron sights but with Alt 2 you have to hold L2 to crouch so it's hard to crouch and use iron sights. I wish I could just configure it to copy Call of Duty controls. Also, sprinting isn't as fluid as CoD... it's a little frustrating because it won't stop sprinting as easily as you'd expect it to.

Graphics and gameplay are top notch. I'll "echo" what other people have said about voice chat on PSN though, it sucks. Too many people have cheap BT headsets and I hear a lot of feedback, especially in the 32 player rooms. I picked up a $15 USB headset from PS2 SOCOM on eBay and it works perfectly.

Maklershed
03-04-2009, 01:24 PM
I was reading this chart (http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/118856-killzone-2-3-s-cod4-s-perk-system-decided-to-have-one-too/killzoneperks-noscale.jpg) that someone posted earlier in the thread and I realized something. I had the turret immediately and I never had to repair anything. As a matter of fact, I dont know if I even have the ability to repair something.

RelentlessRolento
03-04-2009, 01:40 PM
any charts with weapon stats or info?

Bavgate
03-04-2009, 02:31 PM
I was reading this chart (http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/118856-killzone-2-3-s-cod4-s-perk-system-decided-to-have-one-too/killzoneperks-noscale.jpg) that someone posted earlier in the thread and I realized something. I had the turret immediately and I never had to repair anything. As a matter of fact, I dont know if I even have the ability to repair something.

Chart is wrong. Turret is available from the beginning with an Engineer. Repair is the unlockable second ability.

Inf^Shini
03-04-2009, 03:22 PM
Wow, I had pre-ordered the game at Amazon but it was canceled because I didn't have the funds and today I get the Pre-order bonus code for home, thanking me for my pre-order.

I didn't expect that :o

VipFREAK
03-04-2009, 03:35 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about this game...

LinkinPrime
03-04-2009, 03:48 PM
Anyone know of a good (cheap) 3rd party controller that's similar to the mold of the X360's controller?

I'm digging the game but the controller is killing me, it just wasn't designed with FPS in mind.

glockant
03-04-2009, 04:16 PM
just bought a PS3 and KZ2. reading a lot of people complaining about the PS3 controller itself. has anyone tried this? http://www.amazon.com/XCM-Cross-Battle-adapter-Playstation-3/dp/B001O89YTU

thinking about picking one of these up..

edit: and here is a review - http://www.loadingreality.com/Multiple-Consoles/Review-XCM-Cross-Battle-Adapter-360-Controller-on-PS3.html

Inf^Shini
03-04-2009, 04:21 PM
How about this?
http://www.amazon.com/Playstation-3-fragFX-Controller/dp/B000S14FNO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1236198001&sr=1-1

zewone
03-04-2009, 04:28 PM
just bought a PS3 and KZ2. reading a lot of people complaining about the PS3 controller itself. has anyone tried this? http://www.amazon.com/XCM-Cross-Battle-adapter-Playstation-3/dp/B001O89YTU

thinking about picking one of these up..

edit: and here is a review - http://www.loadingreality.com/Multiple-Consoles/Review-XCM-Cross-Battle-Adapter-360-Controller-on-PS3.html

I have it. It works excellent.

Only problem is that sometimes you'll lose connection to the PS3 in the middle of a firefight online and die. It's pretty damn annoying. It doesn't happen too often (about once an hour), but enough to where I just decided to learn the DS3.

flatliner718
03-04-2009, 04:32 PM
I'd totally join a CAG Clan. I'm working through the grind. I'll have medic soon enough. I do want Engineer badly though.

CODEWERKX
03-04-2009, 04:37 PM
has anyone noticed the vague similiarity between Killzone 2 and Gears of War 2...?

Zoglog
03-04-2009, 04:43 PM
How about this?
http://www.amazon.com/Playstation-3-fragFX-Controller/dp/B000S14FNO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1236198001&sr=1-1

don't bother, I bought the frag fx when it first came out and it was a piece of crap. That's what happens when you adapt mouse movement to a stick movement. It adds lag and is actually more inaccurate (and on top of KZ2 lag.. that's baaaaad).
I returned it promptly.......

that converter is probably a better bet
though you need sixaxis for the single player campaign.

Inf^Shini
03-04-2009, 04:58 PM
don't bother, I bought the frag fx when it first came out and it was a piece of crap. That's what happens when you adapt mouse movement to a stick movement. It adds lag and is actually more inaccurate (and on top of KZ2 lag.. that's baaaaad).
I returned it promptly.......

that converter is probably a better bet
though you need sixaxis for the single player campaign.
It seemed like a good idea to make up for games with no KB/Mouse support, but the setup for some reason still seemed odd to me.

Zoglog
03-04-2009, 05:52 PM
It seemed like a good idea to make up for games with no KB/Mouse support, but the setup for some reason still seemed odd to me.

seemed like a good idea to me, which is why I bought it ;). Trust me, u'll want to skip this one.

RelentlessRolento
03-04-2009, 06:22 PM
the controls get better actually once you adjust the sensitivity down one on X and Y from the default...

I started getting more kills on it ever since then.

VipFREAK
03-04-2009, 06:32 PM
I tried both high and low sensitivity... they both suck. If it's too high I can't aim and die, if it's too low I can't move fast enough and i die. :roll:

LinkinPrime
03-04-2009, 06:34 PM
just bought a PS3 and KZ2. reading a lot of people complaining about the PS3 controller itself. has anyone tried this? http://www.amazon.com/XCM-Cross-Battle-adapter-Playstation-3/dp/B001O89YTU

thinking about picking one of these up..

edit: and here is a review - http://www.loadingreality.com/Multiple-Consoles/Review-XCM-Cross-Battle-Adapter-360-Controller-on-PS3.html

That one seems nice, specially cause it supports rumble. If only it was cheaper :lol:...maybe when I get my tax return.

whoknows
03-04-2009, 06:38 PM
has anyone noticed the vague similiarity between Killzone 2 and Gears of War 2...?

That they're both really gray and brown?

RelentlessRolento
03-04-2009, 06:40 PM
has anyone noticed the vague similiarity between Killzone 2 and Gears of War 2...?


the entire time playing I noticed that tooo..

4 tough guys...

space marines...

go underground...

ride train...

one on one with boss...



it shared alot of same stuff but it didn't ruin it for me.

VipFREAK
03-04-2009, 06:41 PM
has anyone noticed the vague similiarity between Killzone 2 and Gears of War 2...?

You mean that both games have some pretty ghey vehicles? Who the hell takes a flying platform into battle? Who the hell takes a big slow POS platform across a battle field? Who the fuck thinks up this shit?

Aleman
03-04-2009, 06:49 PM
I think the best way to describe the single player is a mash-up between Gears and Call of Duty. Lots of visual and character similarity to Gears: similar color palate, destruction everywhere, "macho" space marine characters, wonky vehicles. And pretty much a carbon copy of Call of Duty game design: linear progression, cool scripted events, engaging atmosphere, chaos everywhere, occasional infinitely respawning enemies, useless friendly AI (all progression depends on you only), etc.

I'm not very far yet though so things could change.

BostonCollegeFan
03-04-2009, 06:53 PM
I'm on that bridge level still. I tried it like three times and said f it and stopped playing it. Can't wait until the next CAG day for multiplayer though as MLB 09 is stealing most of my time, heh.

Deadpool
03-04-2009, 08:59 PM
I'm on that bridge level still. I tried it like three times and said f it and stopped playing it. Can't wait until the next CAG day for multiplayer though as MLB 09 is stealing most of my time, heh.

I had a problem too. Thing is, they will keep spawning till you get to the other side. I just sprinted halfway with the Grenade Launcher, shot the guys i passed real quick then sprinted to the far end and CROUCHED and did the same thing. Only took 2 tries after i realized they stopped spawning when you reach the far side. The first time i didn't notice the extra enemy in the barracks i had grenaded.

Darknyss
03-04-2009, 09:01 PM
Finished the campaign on Veteran. I had hoped to play again on Elite but after seeing how much trouble Veteran was, I won't even bother.

There were quite a few 'controller throwing' sections. I literally died 50+ times on some parts. I hated the infinite spawns! The last level sucked ass.

Anyway, I'm just happy it's over so I can focus on MP. It's a shame because I think the frustrating and annoying parts really subtracted from my enjoyment of the game.

KingBroly
03-04-2009, 10:09 PM
I don't know...I MIGHT try and play through it on Elite, but as with the Collectibles, it's not something I'm going to actively pursue. I mean, maybe if I got the 1% Trophy, I'd try it, but it's just...that last part is just so damn hard.

The Train part is really frustrating, too, but there is sort of a way to cheese it. I'm trying to get my Least Deaths count to 0 on everything first, though. I'm not too far away, but I still have the final area to deal with.

shinryuu
03-04-2009, 10:21 PM
Is it me, or multiplayer has been either really GOOD for one day, and then really BAD the next day? For me, that's what it feels like. =p

Finished the campaign on Veteran. I had hoped to play again on Elite but after seeing how much trouble Veteran was, I won't even bother.

There were quite a few 'controller throwing' sections. I literally died 50+ times on some parts. I hated the infinite spawns! The last level sucked ass.

Anyway, I'm just happy it's over so I can focus on MP. It's a shame because I think the frustrating and annoying parts really subtracted from my enjoyment of the game.

Yeah, I'm only on the third level, but Veteran is annoying me. I normally choose the hardest difficulty in any game just cause.

sotc1988
03-04-2009, 11:04 PM
Fuck it. I'm buying it. Heading out the door, doubts be DAMNED!

Coper3000
03-04-2009, 11:10 PM
Mines been freezing on me every couple of games. Kinda weird how people I'm playing with also get froze at the same time. Anyone else getting freeze probs?

Aleman
03-05-2009, 12:11 AM
Mines been freezing on me every couple of games. Kinda weird how people I'm playing with also get froze at the same time. Anyone else getting freeze probs?

They seem to be pretty common from what I've read, although I didn't get any freezing in about three hours of multiplayer yesterday. If it's hardware related, my PS3 is only a month old...

Bavgate
03-05-2009, 12:15 AM
Mines been freezing on me every couple of games. Kinda weird how people I'm playing with also get froze at the same time. Anyone else getting freeze probs?

Happened to me once on Sunday. Was first overall in a game and my console froze up right when I killed someone. Lost all that exp. :cry:

Luckily, I was only 21 points away from getting the Scout anyway, so it wasn't a big hit.

KingBroly
03-05-2009, 12:42 AM
Ranked up again tonight after 2 matches. I earned about 36 points per match, so it's not a lot of points. I guess it'll be easier to earn points once I unlock a better class or something. It is really fun, although the matches I ran into tonight had almost no one talking on my side.

Can someone tell me what a Squad Invite is? I got one, but I didn't know how to access it. Didn't matter though, my team won that :)

BostonCollegeFan
03-05-2009, 12:46 AM
Press select once you see the message and you can accept. IMHO, they're worthless in non clan matches, but all they provide are a dedicated chat channel (of which I don't know how to access), and that you can spawn on the leader granted he's alive, which imho, is usually better serviced by a tactician.

NamPaehc
03-05-2009, 01:14 AM
Yeah it has frozen up on me 2 times. Both times I could hear other people complaining about it. And once I heard someone tell his friend he'd back because the system locked up on him. Only for the rest of us it was fine oddly.

RelentlessRolento, let me know if you are disappointed with the C4 mines or not. I hate that you have to cluster them together. I once put them in a line and watch a guy walk through one after the other until the last one FINALLY took him down lol. Might have had armor on but I was stunned at how weak they charges were.

sotc1988
03-05-2009, 01:33 AM
I know some people liked the demo but I HATED it. It was just a very lackluster portion of an otherwise stellar game. I am on the second level and this shit is HOT. (the only reason I stopped is because lost is on so I'm shitting bricks to revelations on Lost and then I can go back to shitting bricks over the graphics of Killzone)

shinryuu
03-05-2009, 01:40 AM
When my game freezes, it's usually in the beginning of the game. It just doesn't load so I reset it.

Solid-Snake-08
03-05-2009, 02:24 AM
I hate when the game freezes, its really annoying. The patch kinda fixed it for me.

RelentlessRolento
03-05-2009, 02:39 AM
hit top rank today as well as unlocked C4... next up is to unlock class secondary options for each class so I can mix and match not only with my engineer.

Aleman
03-05-2009, 03:24 AM
Holy crap, be careful when you quit a game... I just scored 200 points in my best match ever, ranked up, got my ribbons, etc. then quit the lobby. My points didn't stick :(

Another complaint is that I wish every server had auto faction balance on. If it's off the teams usually become lopsided but no one wants to do anything about it because it makes for easy points.

Anyways, I'm doing way better now. Settled on Alt 2 controls + hold for iron sights + toggle crouch. I also bumped the default sensitivities down (x by 2 and y by 1) and that made it way way easier to aim. Also learned to use fast single shot bursts from the assault rifle instead of three shot bursts or spray and pray. Only use iron sights for long distance and crouch as much as possible.

sotc1988
03-05-2009, 04:13 AM
Yeah, what's up with stats? I joined my first online game, kicked ass, took names, you know, the usual, and it didn't save my stats. The game finished it gave me my thirty points and I ranked up to corp. So I see that the game is counting down to the next round and I don't want to play anymore so I quit and checked my stats and they weren't there. Anybody explain this?

KingBroly
03-05-2009, 04:24 AM
I just got Untouchable. Fuck the final fight. It needs to burn, because it took me over 2 hours to perfect that thing.

Thomas96
03-05-2009, 04:51 AM
I just made it to captain... FOr the single player campaign what level are you guys playing on?

mguiddy
03-05-2009, 05:12 AM
I just made it to captain... FOr the single player campaign what level are you guys playing on?
I ran through the first time on Trooper, but I'll go through again on Elite (I think that's the highest) for that one trophy and use Easy to mop up the other single player trophies I didn't pick up the first time through.

KingBroly
03-05-2009, 05:17 AM
Yeah, I went through it on Trooper, replayed some sections on Recruit for Untouchable, and might do so again for the Symbols/Intel. I probably won't try Elite, or if I do, I'll do it sparingly.

Mr_Hoppy88
03-05-2009, 06:03 AM
Oh yeah Ill be seeing you fellow cag hardcore clan guys on saturday night for some mega pwnage!!!

The ps3 controller is exactly the same as the ps1 and ps2 controllers (except the sixaxis and pressure sensitive l2 + r2) ive been using that controller for 14 years and have no problem with cramp etc and i use my 360 controller just as much as my ps3 one now...the kz2 default controls are crap, however being forced to map them to what suits you is an awesome idea!!!

ShadowEX
03-05-2009, 07:34 AM
I just got Untouchable. Fuck the final fight. It needs to burn, because it took me over 2 hours to perfect that thing.

Man, I started the Campaign on Veteran, I breeze through it fairly easy until the damn last part. Was a pain in the ass, almost unbearable but I managed to finished it. Imagine me trying to beat it on Elite *cries*. Some reason I found Elite to be pretty easy as well when I play some of the levels but I know, when I get to the last part, I'll probably be pulling my hair out. I got so frustrated because at certain times I'd just tell myself "If only this game can use a keyboard and mouse!"

For the Intel, I only need 4 more so not bad for first run. For The Symbols, I dunno, I missed about half of them and that means it'll get annoying searching around.

Multiplayer seem fine for me, no lags and such and the usual annoying kids. I haven't played it much, it's pretty decent but I don't feel satisfied from it though.

erectiontown
03-05-2009, 11:56 AM
Yeah, what's up with stats? I joined my first online game, kicked ass, took names, you know, the usual, and it didn't save my stats. The game finished it gave me my thirty points and I ranked up to corp. So I see that the game is counting down to the next round and I don't want to play anymore so I quit and checked my stats and they weren't there. Anybody explain this?
i find that stats are usually a game behind. i thought i missed out on points, but my stats always end up showing up later

sotc1988
03-05-2009, 02:11 PM
Thanks for the stats answer. I'm having a bit of trouble with the game right now because sometimes I'll be in cover and it seems a bit glitchy. Like if I'm reloading sometimes I can't more around in cover from one side to the other or I'll be in cover and an enemy will be on the other side and I'll still be taking damage from him. I've cursed quite a few times but I am still liking the game and have gotten used to the controls. It's very psychological because the "heavy" controls make the weapons seem really slow moving and in turn it makes my thumb feel "tired" after an hour or so. It's odd.

mykee98
03-05-2009, 04:18 PM
killzone.com is back up so now i can see how bad i suck.

cgarb84
03-05-2009, 05:52 PM
I just finished the SP campaign. I was only playing on the second difficulty (trooper I think?) but holy shit was I close to quitting at the end. That has to be one of the hardest ending levels to a game that I've played in years. The part with the rocket launcher guys in the huge palace room almost made me cry.

Overall I would rate the campaign a solid 8/10. The campaign was very chaotic and fast paced, felt a lot like CoD. I HATED the dialogue, was my biggest problem with the campaign. The story and voice acting were just ok to me, neither great nor terrible.

So far the multiplayer gets a very good 9/10 from me. I'm not a big console MP guy (usually leave MP to my PC) but I really like this game's MP overall.

KingBroly
03-05-2009, 06:20 PM
I don't get why people hate the dialogue so much. They're soldiers for crying out loud. Do you want them to be all upper class snobs?

Eugene: "Oh Reginald, I do say, that ruffian is shooting for the middle of our craniums. What shall we do?"
Reginald: "Eugene, old chap, I believe we shall fire back at them with the best of them!"
Eugene: "Good show old bean!"

OatmealMu
03-05-2009, 06:25 PM
Discussing the possibility and repercussions of love blooming on the battlefield would be a good start.

Thongsy
03-05-2009, 06:29 PM
I don't get why people hate the dialogue so much. They're soldiers for crying out loud. Do you want them to be all upper class snobs?

Eugene: "Oh Reginald, I do say, that ruffian is shooting for the middle of our craniums. What shall we do?"
Reginald: "Eugene, old chap, I believe we shall fire back at them with the best of them!"
Eugene: "Good show old bean!"

Damn, now I do want them to talk like that. That would great. Yea I agree with you, it's part of the realism, it's a T rated game so it shouldn't matter.

Paco
03-05-2009, 06:33 PM
Damn, now I do want them to talk like that. That would great. Yea I agree with you, it's part of the realism, it's a T rated game so it shouldn't matter.

They talk like that if you set the language to the UK version ;)

cgarb84
03-05-2009, 07:16 PM
The dialogue in this game is actually quite indefensible. Every single thing that comes spewing out of Rico's mouth in this game is utter trash.

Rico: "Hey ______ does yo momma pack you a lunch in the mornings?"

Anyone else: "STFU Rico"

Rico: "She hands me mine when I leave in the morning LOL."


This is an example of an average conversation in this game.

happy
03-06-2009, 09:21 AM
Are other people still waiting to get their amazon pre-orders, apparently it shipped a few days ago, (about a week after release) and it still isn't here... Are they going slowly to try and get people to sign up for prime?

xDARKx Knight
03-06-2009, 10:43 AM
They talk like that if you set the language to the UK version ;)

The Helghast already speak like that, without changing anything :-P

Wait...why am i taking the piss out of myself lol!

Maklershed
03-06-2009, 11:10 AM
'ello Guvnah!

John Hyperion
03-06-2009, 12:23 PM
The dialogue in this game is actually quite indefensible. Every single thing that comes spewing out of Rico's mouth in this game is utter trash.

Rico: "Hey ______ does yo momma pack you a lunch in the mornings?"

Anyone else: "STFU Rico"

Rico: "She hands me mine when I leave in the morning LOL."


This is an example of an average conversation in this game.

That's a pretty fair representation of actual soldiers, or generally males in any sort of competitive team situation.

cgarb84
03-06-2009, 02:33 PM
That's a pretty fair representation of actual soldiers, or generally males in any sort of competitive team situation.

I couldn't disagree more. Maybe soldiers soldiers give each other shit like that sometimes when they have some downtime but not in the middle of warzones, not the way its done Killzone.

dallow
03-06-2009, 03:30 PM
KZ2 patch up in EU. Not US yet.

I hear it definitely feels different. :/
Hope I get used to it.

* Stability issue regarding randomly named games resolved.
* Stability fix when rapidly tapping (X) can cause crash on spawn-select.
* Stability issue regarding Saboteur’s disguise ability resolved.
* Stability fix on ‘Creating game’ with a blank name.
* Stability fix for repeatedly entering exiting game.
* The Ignore list functionality corrected.
* Unlock of “Frontrunner” Medal now functioning correctly.
* Fix for incorrect award of win to clan not showing for game resolved.
* Battle Replay for Corinth Crossing not appearing correctly on www.killzone.com (http://www.killzone.com/).
* Issue with not being able to defuse the Search and Destroy objective resolved.
* HUD issue correction during Assassination mode when playing as a Medic.
* Controller input tweaks and modifications.
* Fix for auto-lock on of shotgun exploit.
* Fix for D-Charge issues in Campaign mode

help1
03-06-2009, 04:38 PM
Control input tweaks...

Interesting.

UnderHero5
03-06-2009, 06:25 PM
Control input tweaks...

Interesting.
I'm calling it right now... placebo.

They already said they weren't changing the control "problems"... so I'm willing to bet they are saying they changed something, and being vague... and waiting to see how many people fall for it, to calm the complaining.

The only thing I'd like changed is the slight input lag. I beat the game today, and it was awesome, but I never did feel like I was fully in control, because of that slight input lag.

dallow
03-06-2009, 06:46 PM
Nah, people do say it's slightly changed. Nothing drastic, but the feel is slightly different for MP.
And they wouldn't just lie, would they?

BostonCollegeFan
03-06-2009, 07:04 PM
Bah, I liked how MP felt :/.

Maklershed
03-06-2009, 07:24 PM
* Controller input tweaks and modifications.

:-k

QiG
03-06-2009, 07:36 PM
I don't mind the way the game plays, but please bring back button mapping.. L3 for run just does not work for me as I find myself running instead of shooting like I intend to sometimes.

Aleman
03-06-2009, 08:51 PM
I'm really, really liking the multiplayer. The learning curve was very steep but I've finally got the hang of it and can't put it down. I finally realized that if you are in a squad you can spawn on the squad leader and that takes a lot of the trucking across the map out of the game. Also I really like playing as a medic, it reminds me of Return to Castle Wolfenstein.

I don't mind the way the game plays, but please bring back button mapping.. L3 for run just does not work for me as I find myself running instead of shooting like I intend to sometimes.

I have the same problem but with both the left and the right sticks. I think it's just too easy to accidentally activate L3 and R3 on the Dual Shock 3 and I'd like to be able to un-map both buttons.

Zoglog
03-06-2009, 08:59 PM
hmmm interesting, I have high hopes. i'll try it when I get home.

KingBroly
03-06-2009, 09:16 PM
How do you heal people while using the Medic? I cannot figure it out. Reviving people is simple. Healing...not so much.

BostonCollegeFan
03-06-2009, 09:30 PM
Healing people can only be done with the second Medic badge - Health packs. Otherwise you can't heal.

Thongsy
03-06-2009, 09:51 PM
You just throw health packs on the ground and hope people run over them.

zewone
03-06-2009, 10:08 PM
Healing people is simple.

Is it simple for King Broly? Not so much.

TheRock88
03-06-2009, 10:30 PM
New patch is out

VipFREAK
03-06-2009, 10:34 PM
What's in the patch?

BTW, you like that Pea size hail we had in the beginning of the week?

RelentlessRolento
03-06-2009, 11:19 PM
yay! I knew something was wrong with the boost medals.

Thongsy
03-07-2009, 12:28 AM
Did they get rid of the shotgun? I'm playing on ENG repairing stuff but now I have no main weapon, and it's gone from the soldier class also.

RelentlessRolento
03-07-2009, 12:30 AM
weird

Coper3000
03-07-2009, 12:50 AM
^^^I know some games the person who created the game can disable certain weapons and such. Kinda like pistol only matches- the only gun you have/can choose is the pistol.

help1
03-07-2009, 12:51 AM
About the controller tweak:

It has been changed, but not much. If you were on the fence about this game and were hoping that this would change your mind about the game, you are mistaken. What I will say is that if you do find the controls difficult, try sitting down with the game for an hour or two, and really the controls will feel good to you.

Additionally, I can now kill people using the scopes, which was impossible before the controls update patch.

shinryuu
03-07-2009, 12:54 AM
I joined a random server and ended up playing a few games with Inf_Shini until I got disconnected.

I'm really starting to think its the bluetooth headset. I get the same network error whenever I use it.

Also, I don't notice the controller tweaks pre/post patch.

Thongsy
03-07-2009, 01:05 AM
^^^I know some games the person who created the game can disable certain weapons and such. Kinda like pistol only matches- the only gun you have/can choose is the pistol.

Oh, that makes sense, though it kills the ENG class since they only have one main weapon and you could easily be killed before finding another weapon to pick up. I wish this game was kinda like MGO where the creator of the game can list what kind of things they have disable in the game or if it's a certain rank only. I can't count how many times I click a game to be told I'm too high or too low. Would help also if certain weapons are disabled.

Also within the last 24 hours the game has been crashing and freezing on me a lot. And random disconnects. Prior to this I had no problems at all. Hopefully it gets fixed soon.

DarkNessBear
03-07-2009, 01:15 AM
I don't know if they updated the game at all, but I am really dang good with the controls now. I'm having no problems anymore. Guess I just got really used to it.

And I'm amazed how great this game is, I'm away for one day and all I want to do is play KZ2!!

NamPaehc
03-07-2009, 01:18 AM
I'm having a hard time with the aerial bot still, will be last one I bet. The anti-air rockets from the ground bots are brutal.

And the boost run one should be easy now if they fixed it. Just got to use it 80 times... lol.

Thongsy
03-07-2009, 01:23 AM
I don't really think anybody can ever get five kills in a match with the aerial bots without just doing it against a friend willing to die for you. That thing has such horrible accuracy, any kills it gets is pure luck. It also gets taken down within ten seconds of going up by the turrets and other people just shooting at it.

thedarklordxenu
03-07-2009, 01:47 AM
About the controller tweak:

It has been changed, but not much. If you were on the fence about this game and were hoping that this would change your mind about the game, you are mistaken. What I will say is that if you do find the controls difficult, try sitting down with the game for an hour or two, and really the controls will feel good to you.

Additionally, I can now kill people using the scopes, which was impossible before the controls update patch.

I disagree; I find the controls to be a BIG difference. I had completely written off this game as unplayable tripe, but with the new tweaks it's now not only playable, but fun.

Sure, it doesn't feel as buttery smooth as COD or Resistance or Unreal, but now it actually feels like a game with a slightly different (but not bad) style as opposed to one that is just completely broken.

UnderHero5
03-07-2009, 02:24 AM
I disagree; I find the controls to be a BIG difference. I had completely written off this game as unplayable tripe, but with the new tweaks it's now not only playable, but fun.

Sure, it doesn't feel as buttery smooth as COD or Resistance or Unreal, but now it actually feels like a game with a slightly different (but not bad) style as opposed to one that is just completely broken.
I tried the game tonight after work, since the patch came out. Having just played it for hours before work, I can safely say that they did little to nothing to the controls. In single player it seemed like the iron sights came up faster. In multiplayer you can also now turn faster (from what I noticed).

Other than that, there weren't any changes that I could tell.
I'm not saying there are control issues... but if you had them before, they are still there, unless you wanted to turn faster while sprinting (which is nice).

Even if there were more changes than that, they certainly weren't drastic enough to say it went from completely broken to great. That's just silly, and proves that most of the control problems are in people's heads, and because of the crap they read online (which has completely overblown the small control issues there are).

The input lag is still there... which is the main problem, imo.

shinryuu
03-07-2009, 02:27 AM
After a few games, they didn't really tweak the controls. It feels more like auto-aim, or some form of aim assist, that's all. They may have fixed SOME (very little) lag input, but c'mon, it doesn't take that much to learn that all they did was turn on aim assist.

DarkNessBear
03-07-2009, 04:19 AM
Eh, controls are fine. I'm so used to them now, I was kicking a lot of ass today.

xDARKx Knight
03-07-2009, 07:50 AM
I don't know if they updated the game at all, but I am really dang good with the controls now. I'm having no problems anymore. Guess I just got really used to it.

And I'm amazed how great this game is, I'm away for one day and all I want to do is play KZ2!!

Hehe...the last bit rhymed :-P :)

'ello Guvnah!

Lol exactly :lol:. Well...maybe not, their not really cockney to be honest. Close enough though :-P

KingBroly
03-07-2009, 09:27 AM
I got the Intel/Symbol Trophies this morning. Not so tough, but a little confusing at times. I'm still not going to like and try to beat it on Elite, though.

Looking forward to playing some more MP this afternoon with CAG's. I honestly still have no clue about what you guys are talking about when it comes to Boost Ribbons/Medals, and the problems of obtaining them/it.

As far as the Bot accuracy goes, if they were more accurate, they'd be broken. The point of Bots and to an even more extreme extent, the the Tactician's Spawning capability is to cause chaos. And for some reason, it makes the game extremely fun.

Thomas96
03-07-2009, 10:06 AM
im, playing on hard and now im stuck on this stage. Its like the difficulty just ramped up.

KingBroly
03-07-2009, 10:16 AM
im, playing on hard and now im stuck on this stage. Its like the difficulty just ramped up.

I've played the "This" stage on many games before. They haunt me so.

RelentlessRolento
03-07-2009, 11:52 AM
I'm having a hard time with the aerial bot still, will be last one I bet. The anti-air rockets from the ground bots are brutal.

And the boost run one should be easy now if they fixed it. Just got to use it 80 times... lol.


yeah, the ariel bot thing is prob the hardest medal to get... personally I think they need to up either their rate of fire or damage up.

i'm glad the run works since I've been wanting to combine my assult with other stuff.

The Mana Knight
03-07-2009, 01:38 PM
I disagree; I find the controls to be a BIG difference. I had completely written off this game as unplayable tripe, but with the new tweaks it's now not only playable, but fun..I'd say the updated controls make a pretty good difference. The main thing changed was the control sensitivity adjustments feel much smoother not compared to a big jump. Aiming is a bit easier too now. They don't feel as heavy now.

KingBroly
03-07-2009, 01:48 PM
I tried a bit of Elite Campaign. Man...your allies die so much more now, it's not really productive.

Aleman
03-07-2009, 02:10 PM
The controls feel a little different to me, can't put a finger on it, but it's a little more responsive now. I'm having an easier time with close quarters aiming.

Also I wish they would just take the engineer class out of the game. The turrets are nothing but an annoyance and I don't find them fun to use at all.

KingBroly
03-07-2009, 02:14 PM
Oh, one thing I noticed about Elite Campaign that I don't know if it was like that before the patch, but there's not crosshair if you're not zooming in.

RelentlessRolento
03-07-2009, 02:28 PM
The controls feel a little different to me, can't put a finger on it, but it's a little more responsive now. I'm having an easier time with close quarters aiming.

Also I wish they would just take the engineer class out of the game. The turrets are nothing but an annoyance and I don't find them fun to use at all.


ur not doing it right then. I get alot of kills via turrets most of the time.

Aleman
03-07-2009, 02:40 PM
ur not doing it right then. I get alot of kills via turrets most of the time.

That's not the point, I don't think they add any fun to the game and are mostly just annoying.

RelentlessRolento
03-07-2009, 02:42 PM
That's not the point, I don't think they add any fun to the game and are mostly just annoying.


I'm having fun as well as alot of others I've talked to.

KingBroly
03-07-2009, 02:57 PM
In TF2, my favorite class is the Engineer because once you get your bot built up ((I'm assuming you can't in this game) it becomes pretty much unstoppable. I'll have fun with it.

RelentlessRolento
03-07-2009, 02:59 PM
In TF2, my favorite class is the Engineer because once you get your bot built up ((I'm assuming you can't in this game) it becomes pretty much unstoppable. I'll have fun with it.


the lifebar for engineer bots in KZ is pretty small and they don't do too much damage, but well placed bots are beasts. High ground near heavy traffic accounts for some crazy ass headshots.

Thongsy
03-07-2009, 03:26 PM
I like the ENG class, the bots are great for when you need to slow the enemy down, such as in Search and Destroy. The classes are all pretty balanced, so there is no need to change or take anything out. Once you play more and unlock certain medals you can mix and match some class abilities so it adds more variety.

RelentlessRolento
03-07-2009, 03:29 PM
agreed. every class can be outdone if played smart. engineer initially felt like crap when i was against them and when I started as them, but as you learn what they do well then you kick ass.

my 1 bot that got 10 head shots in one round is a good testament of that.



something small I'm super happy about with this game is that it dosn't split games up from "Ranked" or "Player"... I never liked seperating online play into "pretend play" and "for real"... it keeps stats more honest and it's also easier to find games. that is probably my biggest gripe with XBL.

NamPaehc
03-07-2009, 03:43 PM
The deadzone is a lot smaller. I only tried it with my recon... All I have to say is be afraid! I was hitting EVERYTHING I put my scope on for once... Sniping is a lot easier now. Not sure how I feel about that, because it felt a little to easy but hopefully that is just because it is the class I usually use in FPS.

Need to get into a tight hallway fight to see if that is better too.

PS> Does spot and mark add blue x's on targets for the whole team, or just the sniper? I think it adds red dots for others on the radar at least but I couldn't get anyone else to confirm about the x's.

NVM> it marks players on your screen and lets other players on your team have them show up on their radar. More usefull to yourself than the team but works great for almost any class.

RelentlessRolento
03-07-2009, 03:56 PM
just the sniper...

pete5883
03-07-2009, 04:52 PM
something small I'm super happy about with this game is that it dosn't split games up from "Ranked" or "Player"... I never liked seperating online play into "pretend play" and "for real"... it keeps stats more honest and it's also easier to find games.
How does it keep stats "more honest"? You could go into a game full of your friends and they could let you headshot them all day to pad your stats. It's exactly the opposite of "more honest".

Thongsy
03-07-2009, 04:59 PM
Sniping is a lot easier now. Not sure how I feel about that, because it felt a little to easy but hopefully that is just because it is the class I usually use in FPS.

Sniping was always easy, you can hit them anywhere with the sniper rifle and they'll die, I feel that's a little unbalanced. I usually don't snipe in games but with the way it is, even I can do that since you can just aim for the body instead of the head and you'll hit something, even a shot in the shoulder will kill you.

DarkNessBear
03-07-2009, 05:00 PM
It's really easy to kill Engineers stuff. Those flying bots die so fast.

Coper3000
03-07-2009, 05:17 PM
Yeah I think the turrets should meet somewhere between what they are now and what people think they should be. They shouldn't be a killing machine, but they should def. be amped up a little more, especially when your team only gets 4 and it takes forever to build a second.

RelentlessRolento
03-07-2009, 05:18 PM
How does it keep stats "more honest"? You could go into a game full of your friends and they could let you headshot them all day to pad your stats. It's exactly the opposite of "more honest".


its still more honest than splitting the two since it takes into account all games played. you still get bullshit of friends helping in ranked online, so here at least you get a dick in your mouth when your not with your friends stat boosting.

I'm wondering if down the line we'll see more classes... I doubt it but it'd be interesting. probably more like TF2 where it's additions to classes.

RelentlessRolento
03-07-2009, 05:21 PM
It's really easy to kill Engineers stuff. Those flying bots die so fast.


i thought the flying bot was tactician?

Thongsy
03-07-2009, 05:44 PM
The flying bot is the tactican secondary ability. But it's best to not pay attention to those as they do pretty much nothing. Turrets are easy enough to destroy, and I like how they are, any more powerful and they're be overpowered. You just need to know where to put them and maybe watch over them. Though I don't don't and they still kill a few people each round.

DarkNessBear
03-07-2009, 06:06 PM
i thought the flying bot was tactician?

Ya... screw you Rolento! :bomb:

enufs8d
03-07-2009, 06:11 PM
i hate when you're playing as a enginner when the bot limit is filled with people putting them in all the wrong places. turrent whores! i almost want to destroy theirs so i can put up mine.

Bavgate
03-07-2009, 06:20 PM
i hate when you're playing as a enginner when the bot limit is filled with people putting them in all the wrong places. turrent whores! i almost want to destroy theirs so i can put up mine.

Just destroy the turrets that are in terrible spots. No point of them being around if they aren't doing anything. That's what I do.

John Hyperion
03-07-2009, 06:31 PM
Yeah, teamkilling turrets is perfectly acceptable, especially since someone might set up a turret that is perfect for one game, but becomes dead weight once you switch to the next game.

That's not the point, I don't think they add any fun to the game and are mostly just annoying.

You mean they're not fun when they're shooting you or you make the mistake of running into one head on? Otherwise, it's tons of fun to watch my turret take out guys, especially when I'm down waiting to respawn. Also very useful to know when/where an enemy that you don't see on your radar is coming from.

NamPaehc
03-07-2009, 07:01 PM
Sniping was always easy, you can hit them anywhere with the sniper rifle and they'll die, I feel that's a little unbalanced. I usually don't snipe in games but with the way it is, even I can do that since you can just aim for the body instead of the head and you'll hit something, even a shot in the shoulder will kill you.

I meant easy as terms of placing your scope on someone. It was deathly hard to do with 2X across a large map. But with the change and 5X I was picking people off left and right with ease.

I do hate that it is 1 shot kill too.. save for assault. I felt bad because I was hitting people in the foot lol.

Thomas96
03-07-2009, 07:18 PM
Yeah, teamkilling turrets is perfectly acceptable, especially since someone might set up a turret that is perfect for one game, but becomes dead weight once you switch to the next game.



You mean they're not fun when they're shooting you or you make the mistake of running into one head on? Otherwise, it's tons of fun to watch my turret take out guys, especially when I'm down waiting to respawn. Also very useful to know when/where an enemy that you don't see on your radar is coming from.


I wish that the person who builds the turrets could take them down and move them to another location.

Thongsy
03-07-2009, 07:23 PM
Yeah, teamkilling turrets is perfectly acceptable, especially since someone might set up a turret that is perfect for one game, but becomes dead weight once you switch to the next game.
Agreed. I set up turrets and destroy my own if it goes to another gametype where they're not doing any good.

Halo05
03-08-2009, 12:37 AM
Finished the single player on my Gamefly rental. Fun once I got the hang of the floaty controls. Although, I didn't feel like I got the hang of the controls until after the 1.20 patch so maybe there is a fix. Like CoD4, this feels like is was built mostly for multiplayer with a very polished but short single player.

method47
03-08-2009, 01:27 AM
The trophies for this game look like they are hard and annoying to get.

Gotta start playing tomorrow.

BostonCollegeFan
03-08-2009, 01:36 AM
It's mostly the tiered ones in MP that suck the most.

Zoglog
03-08-2009, 01:51 AM
hmmm tried singleplayer again. Seems like the input lag is still there. Sad =(

jeremiahkd
03-08-2009, 03:51 AM
This game is win. The multiplayer is a BLAST once you're used to the controls. I'm trying to beat the SP, but I'm stuck in some sewer place where the helghast ambush me.
JeremiahKD = Noob

KingBroly
03-08-2009, 04:02 AM
Whoever decided that the Weekly Honor Trophies were a good idea can fuck right off and go to hell. Seriously...seriously...seriously...seriously. Worst thing ever.

sotc1988
03-08-2009, 04:31 AM
Eh, I never really expect to get platinum trophies but yeah this kind of stuff is annoying. I remember they stopped pulling that shit on xbox (for the most part I think) after the hubbub that was made when the first graw had an achievement for being number one in the world in ranked multiplayer. At least there is a chance in this one to get it.
I finished all the insignias and intels today but unfortunately killzone.com has been down for the better part of today so I can't get any of my prizes. BAH!

Deadpool
03-08-2009, 05:19 AM
Whoever decided that the Weekly Honor Trophies were a good idea can fuck right off and go to hell. Seriously...seriously...seriously...seriously. Worst thing ever.

I already got both of the single ones :D . Now to just get into a decent clan...

RelentlessRolento
03-08-2009, 06:01 AM
Ya... screw you Rolento! :bomb:


what did I do >_<


currently finishing up boost and slowly working on getting the scan skill... after that I have no idea what I'll focus on after that...

enufs8d
03-08-2009, 06:15 AM
flying bits of turd they call bots that can't kill for shit!

RelentlessRolento
03-08-2009, 06:17 AM
flying bits of turd they call bots that can't kill for shit!


just put a turret on one and ur set.

KingBroly
03-08-2009, 06:47 AM
I already got both of the single ones :D . Now to just get into a decent clan...

There are 4 Weekly Honor Trophies, not 2. 1%, 3%, 6% and 10%. I'm currently hovering at the wait for it....9,000 ranking for the week. A little below right now, but I expect that will change today if all goes according to plan, and I don't go insane. I'm basically a good hour from getting to the Top 1%, and a good 2-3 hours from keeping me there. I'm pretty much assured all but the 1% Trophy at this point.

tagout
03-08-2009, 01:03 PM
EDIT: nvm wrong topic.

Ecofreak
03-08-2009, 02:34 PM
It's fantastic that I've played the MP for ... maybe 12 hours and not yet received one Trophy at all. 'Course, I haven't touched the single player yet, but it's kinda funny and I didn't realize it until recently.

JMEPO
03-08-2009, 03:33 PM
I've been playing online for 9+ hours and I've just encountered my first error when attempting to enter a game:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=5132&pictureid=5511

NamPaehc
03-08-2009, 03:57 PM
what did I do >_<


currently finishing up boost and slowly working on getting the scan skill... after that I have no idea what I'll focus on after that...

you have the pistol badge yet?

mykevermin
03-08-2009, 04:04 PM
This game just crashed my PS3 when online. Augh. There goes the 1.5X boost on the fucking game our squad was thisclose to winning. Piece of shit. I've read a lot about this game causing crashes/hangs - could be due to sale/use (exposure), but it's pretty fucking aggravating.

kurokubushi
03-08-2009, 04:09 PM
I've been playing online for 9+ hours and I've just encountered my first error when attempting to enter a game:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=5132&pictureid=5511


I've been getting this stuff constantly, I run a wireless connetion, so I put my ps3 in the DMZ, and it worked ok for like 2 days, and now it happens like evrey 15-30 mins. I'm lucky if I can even finnish an entire game.


Also before anyone tells me to do so, A Wired connetion is not an option for me, our router is downstairs in out living room, and my ps3 is hooked up upstairs in my room.

shinryuu
03-08-2009, 04:18 PM
I had a round of errors one day. I even got crazy numbers like -30232380. It's gone now, except 5021, which I believe has something to do with my bluetooth headset.

KingBroly
03-08-2009, 04:19 PM
Can someone on my Friends List or Clan (Hardcore Clan) check where I am in this week's weekly standings?

JMEPO
03-08-2009, 04:21 PM
I've been getting this stuff constantly, I run a wireless connetion, so I put my ps3 in the DMZ, and it worked ok for like 2 days, and now it happens like evrey 15-30 mins. I'm lucky if I can even finnish an entire game.


Also before anyone tells me to do so, A Wired connetion is not an option for me, our router is downstairs in out living room, and my ps3 is hooked up upstairs in my room.

I really can't comment because I have a wired connection and I've only gotten this once. About 6 months ago I had horrible online issues with COD4 and I just messed around with some settings within the PS3 XMB and had very few online issues afterwards.

KingBroly
03-08-2009, 05:09 PM
um...in regards to the online...I'm ranked #1 in today's category atm

sotc1988
03-08-2009, 07:23 PM
Got the untouchable trophy and am starting on my elite playthrough. I did a double take when I saw they take out the aiming reticle when you play on elite so that sucks big time. I've been playing mostly single player so far partly because I have a really big week of mid terms and papers to write so I like to play in small chunks whenever I have a chance during the day and when I play multi I like to devote an hour or two to that.

Bavgate
03-09-2009, 02:53 AM
Nice, I ranked in the top 3% for this week. I was wondering if I was ever going to get one of those things.

aznguyen316
03-09-2009, 12:27 PM
Got the untouchable trophy and am starting on my elite playthrough. I did a double take when I saw they take out the aiming reticle when you play on elite so that sucks big time. I've been playing mostly single player so far partly because I have a really big week of mid terms and papers to write so I like to play in small chunks whenever I have a chance during the day and when I play multi I like to devote an hour or two to that.

lol no crosshairs? interesting, good to know thanks

mykevermin
03-09-2009, 12:40 PM
Nice, I ranked in the top 3% for this week. I was wondering if I was ever going to get one of those things.

What was your score for the week?

I'd like to aim for the top x% trophies, but since it's more a measure of time invested than actual skill, and I can't really devote that kind of time to the game, it's a bit of a letdown.

Maklershed
03-09-2009, 01:32 PM
I'm loving the rpg element of MP. And I still haven't gotten a single ribbon for the turret kills. Same deal for my air support. :bomb:

dallow
03-09-2009, 01:35 PM
Air support sucks. I've never seen them kill anyone, and I can take them down so easily.

I've gotten 1 turret ribbon. 8-)

I'm starting to really like the MP now in the way I fell in love with CoD4, though the love took a bit longer as I got used to it. It really helps when you have a good, balanced team like I did for a few games over the weekend.
I'm not really into playing online with FPS but these two games I enjoy.

Maklershed
03-09-2009, 01:37 PM
Hey dallow, I can use health packs with my other leveled up classes now. \\:D/

Oh and I just got the saboteur class. I love it but it seems like nobody on the other teams ever fall for my disguise.

dallow
03-09-2009, 01:40 PM
Are healthpacks that useful?
I've been throwing them out (well, in one game) and ok, they refill your health, but people usually die anyway pretty quickly.

I love reviving folks though, I've already revived more people than you makkey mak. 8-)

RelentlessRolento
03-09-2009, 02:02 PM
you have the pistol badge yet?


not yet >_<

I joined some all pistol games and had a hard ass time...

KingBroly
03-09-2009, 03:46 PM
Revive is definitely the better of the 2 Medic abilities. Putting Med-packs down rarely helps. I haven't even started using the Saboteur yet. Trying to get those Ribbons will be a pain.

Has anyone figured out what the Home integration for this game is yet?

RelentlessRolento
03-09-2009, 03:51 PM
Revive is definitely the better of the 2 Medic abilities. Putting Med-packs down rarely helps. I haven't even started using the Saboteur yet. Trying to get those Ribbons will be a pain.

Has anyone figured out what the Home integration for this game is yet?


the next patch/update will integrate it more.

Inf^Shini
03-09-2009, 03:56 PM
It's fantastic that I've played the MP for ... maybe 12 hours and not yet received one Trophy at all. 'Course, I haven't touched the single player yet, but it's kinda funny and I didn't realize it until recently.
I'm in the same boat, I've just been having a ball online. I've noticed that everything feels really balanced in this game, save for the one fact that the game can't make your team better instantly if they all blow.

This game just crashed my PS3 when online. Augh. There goes the 1.5X boost on the fucking game our squad was thisclose to winning. Piece of shit. I've read a lot about this game causing crashes/hangs - could be due to sale/use (exposure), but it's pretty fucking aggravating.
I've ran into these errors at least 10 times already, all when the game was nearing the end and our team was whoopin' ass >.>

I was pissed, I've probably lost out on at least 500 mission points :cry:

Maklershed
03-09-2009, 04:06 PM
I'm in the same boat, I've just been having a ball online. I've noticed that everything feels really balanced in this game, save for the one fact that the game can't make your team better instantly if they all blow.


You, Darknyss, and myself were running shit yesterday when we all managed to get on the same team.

dallow
03-09-2009, 04:11 PM
That's my biggest complaint about this game.

No party system.
It's hard as hell to get on the same team.

If you make a room, you have to turn auto-balance off which usually leads to lopsided games.

Maklershed
03-09-2009, 04:13 PM
And then you get stuck with incompetent people. There's nothing more enfuriating when you have medics standing around and they wont revive you .. or when people are wasting spawn points by putting them at retarded places or near the original spawn point.

RelentlessRolento
03-09-2009, 04:18 PM
That's my biggest complaint about this game.

No party system.
It's hard as hell to get on the same team.

If you make a room, you have to turn auto-balance off which usually leads to lopsided games.

also deciding on a faction ahead of time helps.

Inf^Shini
03-09-2009, 04:20 PM
You, Darknyss, and myself were running shit yesterday when we all managed to get on the same team.
Yes we were 8-)

I was just bummed I couldn't stay on longer, I had stuff to do. We'll be doing it again soon though, sho nuff!

I feel ya too Dallow, I spent forever trying to figure out how to find/make a party, but apparently they forgot that feature? :/

And then you get stuck with incompetent people. There's nothing more enfuriating when you have medics standing around and they wont revive you .. or when people are wasting spawn points by putting them at retarded places or near the original spawn point.
I've been fortunate enough to have guys revive me most of the time when they can, but the wasted spawn points and turrets do annoy me.

dallow
03-09-2009, 04:24 PM
also deciding on a faction ahead of time helps.I was going to mention that but you can always switch faction in the pre-game screen.

Bavgate
03-09-2009, 04:35 PM
What was your score for the week?

I'd like to aim for the top x% trophies, but since it's more a measure of time invested than actual skill, and I can't really devote that kind of time to the game, it's a bit of a letdown.

Not sure what it was for the week, but my overall score is 5291. I didn't really devote that much time into KZ2 this week either. Only times I really played were doing the CAG nights.

zewone
03-09-2009, 04:39 PM
Health packs are insanely useful for the medic or saboteur class.

zewone
03-09-2009, 04:44 PM
I'm wondering if down the line we'll see more classes... I doubt it but it'd be interesting. probably more like TF2 where it's additions to classes.

Well, the flamethrower and bolt gun are begging to be patched into multiplayer.

And the stats are way less honest since they take into account people who boost with their friends.

RelentlessRolento
03-09-2009, 05:08 PM
The bolt gun would be crazy online... i'd expect it to get toned down... the game would break with the eletric gun though.

I hope they have a new faction: those bugs in single player >_<

Thongsy
03-09-2009, 05:25 PM
Not sure what it was for the week, but my overall score is 5291. I didn't really devote that much time into KZ2 this week either. Only times I really played were doing the CAG nights.

Lies, you played all Monday last week. Other than that yea, you're just insanely good. Especially with that grenade launcher. I am getting better now, though I always feel bad for CAGs since each time I play the CAG night I always end up on top with a great kdr. I feel kinda bad and especially if we're going to do a clan battle since the hardcore team will be stacked.

Bavgate
03-09-2009, 05:33 PM
Lies, you played all Monday last week.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. :lol: I'm gonna play all day again today!

Inf^Shini
03-09-2009, 08:57 PM
Grenade Launcher + Boost Pill = Madness

KingBroly
03-09-2009, 09:15 PM
The bolt gun would be crazy online... i'd expect it to get toned down... the game would break with the eletric gun though.

I hope they have a new faction: those bugs in single player >_<

The bolt gun would be hilarious. It's a OHKO because it explodes afterwards, and it sticks people to walls. If you want to balance it, it'd have to have a low amount of shots.

Lightning Gun though...yeah, it'd be 100% broken. Even if its' ammo ran out, it'd be broken. But it's best weapon I've ever seen in an FPS. Well...console FPS. It's just a blast to use, and once you get it, it makes the rest of that level a breeze.

enufs8d
03-09-2009, 09:35 PM
And then you get stuck with incompetent people. There's nothing more enfuriating when you have medics standing around and they wont revive you .. or when people are wasting spawn points by putting them at retarded places or near the original spawn point.

i completely agree about the spawn points. i had this one team that put the spawn in the marketplace perfectly lined up for the opponents' easy kills. can't you at least think "tactically" where to put the spawn grenade as to not get your team killed? i don't know whats worse really bad spawn points or no spawn points at all... in those instances, I don't even have to ask why we're losing.

but i think the medic situation is different. i can only heal one person at a time. so even if you see a medic around you, the medic might still be in the cool down phase of the defrillabator. And if I can't secure the situation, I'm not going to revive you. Whats the point of being revived to died 10 seconds later? You might mistake me killing people for ignorning you. It's killing people to wait until the defill fills up again. And in most situations, its not worth it to sacrifice myself to revive you. For mission objectives, its a definite yes. So, if you see me around, be patient and I'll get to you.

enufs8d
03-09-2009, 09:37 PM
Grenade Launcher + Boost Pill = Madness

assault armor + grenade launcher + boost + health packs... lol

kurokubushi
03-09-2009, 10:29 PM
The bolt gun would be hilarious. It's a OHKO because it explodes afterwards, and it sticks people to walls. If you want to balance it, it'd have to have a low amount of shots.

Lightning Gun though...yeah, it'd be 100% broken. Even if its' ammo ran out, it'd be broken. But it's best weapon I've ever seen in an FPS. Well...console FPS. It's just a blast to use, and once you get it, it makes the rest of that level a breeze.


They could go the samw route as the GOW did with their broken gun(for got the name), and have it be random spawn, and it only gets 3-5 uses.

kurokubushi
03-09-2009, 10:32 PM
Hey dallow, I can use health packs with my other leveled up classes now. \\:D/

Oh and I just got the saboteur class. I love it but it seems like nobody on the other teams ever fall for my disguise.


are you running up to them when a bunch of your teammates are around, and none of them are shooting at you? Thats how I usually notice you guys.

KingBroly
03-09-2009, 10:51 PM
They could go the samw route as the GOW did with their broken gun(for got the name), and have it be random spawn, and it only gets 3-5 uses.

You can't have random weapon spawns in this game. It'd change it completely.

Thongsy
03-09-2009, 10:52 PM
Saboteur is badass. I always get the assassination kill, combine with boost and it's lethal. Just go to their area, and than walk around like you're one of them and slowly make your way to the target before shooting. You always have to shoot them from behind or else you might as well be another class.

RelentlessRolento
03-10-2009, 02:57 AM
Well, I have most medals now... I sill think the tactician one is never going to be attainable till they fix the air sentry.

also wish C4 had more bombs to place, but that's a little more balanced.

BostonCollegeFan
03-10-2009, 11:30 AM
Tactician one is easy to get on 8 vs 8.

dallow
03-10-2009, 12:20 PM
Saboteur is badass. I always get the assassination kill, combine with boost and it's lethal. Just go to their area, and than walk around like you're one of them and slowly make your way to the target before shooting. You always have to shoot them from behind or else you might as well be another class.
This is what I so want to do........

Thongsy
03-10-2009, 05:05 PM
Tactician one is easy to get on 8 vs 8.
Really? I always play 8 vs 8 or 6 vs 6 and my air support never kills anybody. Maybe one or two lucky kills but no way to ever get the five needed, it always gets taken out within a minute or two of going up.

KingBroly
03-10-2009, 06:22 PM
I have 11 Medals right now...I'm close to getting my Boost Medal, though. I'm far from getting anything else at the moment. Well, survivng Assassination attempts is the next closest one, but that's always random luck.

KingBroly
03-10-2009, 07:26 PM
12 Medals now. My latest: Front Runner

I guess I'm playing Assault wrong because I'm not liking it so much. Still love Tactician, though. Now that I have Front Runner, once I get my 5 Aerial Bot kills 8 times (Maybe...) I'll combine Front Runner with Tactician.

panasonic
03-10-2009, 07:29 PM
This has the best online experience i have ever played. However I like resistance 2 single player much much more.

Pan1c42
03-10-2009, 09:43 PM
What I'm looking forward to is spawn point + boost. Boost behind enemy lines, throw a spawn point out, then raise some hell.

I just recently acquired my scout. I'm a sniper in every FPS I play and I'm fairly decent at at. I have 2 small complaints about the scout, they are both, somewhat, about the cloak.

A) If I'm running and I have the cloak on, by the icon, I don't know if it is on. I have to stop and see if it turns blue. Alittle wasteful if I'm trying to run to a nice spot to sit.

2) Its alittle difficult to spot guys with my screen blue. And if I do see them, I zoom in and the guy I'm looking for blends right in because his colors no longer "pop" for me.

zewone
03-10-2009, 09:48 PM
2) Its alittle difficult to spot guys with my screen blue. And if I do see them, I zoom in and the guy I'm looking for blends right in because his colors no longer "pop" for me.

Unlock the scout's second ability.

At first I didn't care for the scout, but with the unlocked better scope and spot and mark, he's a hell of a lot better.

Pan1c42
03-10-2009, 10:08 PM
I'm like 5/8s to spot and mark...and I'm 2/8 to the 5x scope.

Maklershed
03-10-2009, 10:49 PM
I just unlocked the Scout as well. I'm loving the sniper rifle. Question though .. I'm getting a solid 10 kills per game while cloaked but I'm not getting any ribbons. Do I have to use a gun other than the sniper rifle for this to work?

zewone
03-10-2009, 10:51 PM
I just unlocked the Scout as well. I'm loving the sniper rifle. Question though .. I'm getting a solid 10 kills per game while cloaked but I'm not getting any ribbons. Do I have to use a gun other than the sniper rifle for this to work?

No. You should be getting it with the rifle if the screen is blue when you're killing people.

KingBroly
03-10-2009, 10:52 PM
My Medal Progress for ones I actually have Ribbons on:

3/8 - Bomb Squad
4/8 - Defense Initiative
2/8 - Black Belt
6/8 - Field Medic
5/8 - Defensive Specialist
2/8 - Forward Observer

I managed to get the Revolver tonight and it's probably the best weapon in Multiplayer.

Maklershed
03-10-2009, 10:53 PM
No. You should be getting it with the rifle if the screen is blue when you're killing people.


What the hell. I guess I must move a little bit and shoot before I get completely cloaked again.

One more sniper question .. how do you zoom to the 5x view?

Thongsy
03-10-2009, 11:00 PM
Press up on the dpad to zoom to 5x.

KingBroly
03-10-2009, 11:01 PM
Press up on the dpad to zoom to 5x.

That doesn't work everywhere, though. No joke.

Maklershed
03-10-2009, 11:04 PM
What do you mean broly? Certain maps won't allow a 5x zoom? I couldnt get it to work on Saluman Market or Corinth Crossing and you'd think if it would work anywhere it would work on those two maps.

KingBroly
03-10-2009, 11:07 PM
What do you mean broly? Certain maps won't allow a 5x zoom? I couldnt get it to work on Saluman Market or Corinth Crossing and you'd think if it would work anywhere it would work on those two maps.

Certain spots on certain maps won't let you zoom into 5x.

Maklershed
03-10-2009, 11:13 PM
:headache:

zewone
03-10-2009, 11:16 PM
What spots?

Aleman
03-10-2009, 11:27 PM
The multiplayer seems to be really going downhill. I didn't play for like five days and now all of a sudden every team deathmatch is nothing but a spawn camping, Assault-class-rocket-boost-bum-rush.

Yikes. It really exposes how primitive/unbalanced some of the game design is. They should add more spawn points and let them rotate when a main base gets overrun. The Assault class needs to be either removed or seriously nerfed. Spawn grenades should be able to be destroyed and should not give people temporary invincibility when they spawn there. Invisible snipers? Who thought that was a good idea?

I wish I could go back to early last week when it was mostly soldiers and medics and everyone was using the regular assault rifles.

NamPaehc
03-11-2009, 12:22 AM
Plus you have to unlock 5X

Thongsy
03-11-2009, 12:53 AM
The multiplayer seems to be really going downhill. I didn't play for like five days and now all of a sudden every team deathmatch is nothing but a spawn camping, Assault-class-rocket-boost-bum-rush.

Yikes. It really exposes how primitive/unbalanced some of the game design is. They should add more spawn points and let them rotate when a main base gets overrun. The Assault class needs to be either removed or seriously nerfed. Spawn grenades should be able to be destroyed and should not give people temporary invincibility when they spawn there. Invisible snipers? Who thought that was a good idea?


I don't really think the Assault class is all that overpowering. I could barely get a kill with it without committing suicide. You pretty much have to almost have a direct hit to kill them with it.

I do agree with the spawn camping bs, and I know we have a couple of people on CAG who think it's fun. All it does is grief the other team and makes it an unenjoyable game for all. One team is now stuck in their base and the people on the other team who are actually playing have no challenger to stop them from achieveing the objectives.

I think the real problem is the "controller adjustment" update they did. I'm not sure if they made it more responsive or not, but they surely did add an aim assist.

DarkNessBear
03-11-2009, 01:19 AM
Ya that temp invincibility is lame.

So what you guys are saying is that the game is now Battle of the Explosives?

Aleman
03-11-2009, 01:21 AM
Seems that way. I was just in a game where like 5 people on the other team would do nothing but boost over to our base and shoot rockets at their feet in the midst of all of us as we spawned.

They all had red highlighted insignias (top x%?).

enufs8d
03-11-2009, 02:11 AM
can't you guys just host/start a game no rockets?

KingBroly
03-11-2009, 03:08 AM
can't you guys just host/start a game no rockets?

Sure, you CAN do something like that. But it's more fun to just single you out and blow you up :bouncy:

Got to the final part of Act 3 of Elite Campaign. Campaign can officially fuck off.

shinryuu
03-11-2009, 03:16 AM
Spawn camping and spam fests are more prevalent in 32-man servers, so just join smaller servers. I still believe spawn camping is a legit tactic, just as it is in TF2. I do agree with the spawn nades thing. There should be a way to destroy them, or perhaps they should only be planted in certain areas of the map because way too many people just throw them on the objective especially in S&D.

I don't have too many problems with MP except shot detection/lag-related problems. I don't understand why you guys complain about something annoying is happening in one server. If that's the case, just leave.

DarkNessBear
03-11-2009, 03:58 AM
Sure, you CAN do something like that. But it's more fun to just single you out and blow you up :bouncy:

Got to the final part of Act 3 of Elite Campaign. Campaign can officially fuck off.

Speaking of Killzone being hard as hell. I recently started playing Killzone on PSP again (was about 2/3 through, but stopped) that game is so FRIGGEN HARD...