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Not so much that it's complex, but we cant forget that Nintendo cares about money just as much as Sony and MS, and Wii Fit = the potential for a looooot of cash.
It seems like a gamble to me. It could end up printing cash like the DS Wii sports but when will Nintendo's lucky streak end?
DS was a gamble but it worked out same for the Wii and Wii Sports but Wii fit?
It could be the next phenomenon or it could end up being the next Virtual Boy. I can't see Japan giving two shits about it or will they eat it up? It seems like someone at Nintendo had jet lag at last years E3 and all they could find on TV @ 4 AM were infomercials about loosing weight. A light bulb lit up and Wii fit was born.
Could Nintendo be over estimating the demand that gamers (Yes even casual gamers) that will want this that have a Wii or willing to spend $300 to buy a Wii with Wii Fit?
furyk
07-12-2007, 02:57 PM
Yes, Wii Fit will sell like crazy. It's the most sure thing coming out of E3. There is no chance that it'll flop.
Strell
07-12-2007, 03:02 PM
I'm not saying anything of the sort. You're just a fanboy with Mario's cock so far up your ass that your breath smells like mushrooms and as such you're getting overly defensive and reading too much into my words. :D
In jest or not, the fact that you take the time to write such things proves you're pretty much clueless. I'm asking a simple question, you take it as an attack in the name of defense. I'm trying to figure out why that is, but all I keep coming back to is that you can't read.
VanillaGorilla
07-12-2007, 03:07 PM
You're just a fanboy with Mario's cock so far up your ass that your breath smells like mushrooms Quote of the Year
Oh yeah, and all this new Japanese 3rd party support for the Wii, most of them are kiddie Garfield and George of the Jungle type crap games.
Strell
07-12-2007, 03:10 PM
Somehow I'm not surprised a quote about cocks in asses would bring Morgrilla into a thread.
VanillaGorilla
07-12-2007, 03:21 PM
Somehow I'm not surprised a quote about cocks in asses would bring Morgrilla into a thread.
In jest or not, the fact that you take the time to write such things proves you're pretty much clueless.
:imwithst:
Yes, Wii Fit will sell like crazy. It's the most sure thing coming out of E3. There is no chance that it'll flop.
How can you be so sure? Did you go and pre-order it today? I haven't read any positive hype from anyone but from a select few Nintendo fanboys on Wii Fit. Gamers aren't interested as far as I can tell and will non gamers be interested enough to buy a wii for it?
More of a sure thing then Mario Kart? SSBB? GTA4? Halo 3?
It is a gamble to spend so many resources on such a nongame on a video game console.
Tybee
07-12-2007, 03:24 PM
Could Nintendo be over estimating the demand that gamers (Yes even casual gamers) that will want this that have a Wii or willing to spend $300 to buy a Wii with Wii Fit?
Considering it costs me $76 a month for a family membership to the YMCA (and that's significantly cheaper than a gym membership), no, I really don't think they are.
Zen Davis
07-12-2007, 03:37 PM
Wii Fit will sell millions in Japan. In America, not so much. Then Iwata will be pissy with Reggie.
spiwak
07-12-2007, 03:38 PM
I don't think it's too much of a gamble. Assuming they're making it work as well as planned....and you know they are....then it should be guaranteed pretty solid support from the non-gaming community. Hell, the fact the media is already talking about it only spells profits in the future, since that's what'll draw people towards it in the first place.
EDIT: And really, the Balance Board IS pretty cool. I don't think I've ever see something that could use your weight shifts to determine overall body position. Pretty cool technology. And if Wii Fit takes off as much as it seems like it will, expect to see it in used in other games.
munch
07-12-2007, 03:39 PM
I see Wii Fit being huge everywhere. Parents buying it for their kids and all. My wife wants it, so I'll probably get at least one.
Dr Mario Kart
07-12-2007, 03:52 PM
Is whether or not its a gamble relevant? I'm willing to concede that anything that hasnt come out yet is technically a gamble.
Now that I think about it, Janauary rather than December seems like a better date. Thats when people get serious about fitness and crowding the gyms for a few weeks before giving up. AFTER Christmas.
CoffeeEdge
07-12-2007, 03:54 PM
How can you be so sure? Did you go and pre-order it today? I haven't read any positive hype from anyone but from a select few Nintendo fanboys on Wii Fit. Gamers aren't interested as far as I can tell and will
non gamers be interested enough to buy a wii for it.
Wow. You really haven't been paying attention the last 8 months, have you? Mark my words, WiiFit is going to be huge, and one of the defining moments for Wii.
Wii Fit will sell millions in Japan. In America, not so much.
I'll bet you thought the exact same thing about Brain Age.
Looks like I'm the minority on this subject. I hope for the best but I just can't see it since every other attempt with something like this has had less a less than stellar welcoming and performance.
I have been wrong before, I would have bet good money that MS was going to have a price drop this week...
botticus
07-12-2007, 04:06 PM
Wow. You really haven't been paying attention the last 8 months, have you? Mark my words, WiiFit is going to be huge, and one of the defining moments for Wii.
I'll bet you thought the exact same thing about Brain Age.Iwata has already scolded Reggie about Brain Age's US performance.
PleasantOne
07-12-2007, 04:07 PM
How can you be so sure? Did you go and pre-order it today? I haven't read any positive hype from anyone but from a select few Nintendo fanboys on Wii Fit. Gamers aren't interested as far as I can tell and will non gamers be interested enough to buy a wii for it?
They aren't targeting gamers with it, that is the whole point... though there will be some gamers who will buy it, myself included. I thought some of the mini game sorts of things looked fun, and I appreciate games that are a workout (I can only play so much DDR and Wii Sports :P)
More importantly, though... was the inclusion of the Yoga type stuff they had the girl doing on stage - because of that, every soccer mom in America who has a Wii in their household will be all over this. If their house doesn't have a Wii, they'll hear about it from their neighbor, over some fluffy Starbucks drink... and then they'll remember hearing about the Wii from their kids... and then Nintendo will have sold a system and a game - assuming anyone can find a Wii by the time the game comes out ;)
munch
07-12-2007, 04:53 PM
Iwata has already scolded Reggie about Brain Age's US performance.
What did he say? Is there a link?
botticus
07-12-2007, 05:00 PM
What did he say? Is there a link?He didn't understand why Brain Age wasn't selling as well in the US as elsewhere in the world. I'll try to link it.
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/04/iwata-lays-the-smack-on-nintendo-of-america/
munch
07-12-2007, 05:01 PM
Cool. I'm just curious.
EXStrike
07-12-2007, 05:07 PM
I founds it.
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/04/iwata-lays-the-smack-on-nintendo-of-america/
MarioColbert
07-12-2007, 05:17 PM
My two cents, that nobody cares about.
1. WiiFit controller demo impressed me from the technological point of view. (modeling of a center of mass based on a few things, etc, all speculative, because I have not felt it yet.) Both my wife and I need to find out more to figure out whether or not it is for us. Sure, getting more exercise is good for everyone, and more power to Nintendo if they can provide an actual fitness alternative in a video game format that is both fun and enjoyable, all in the privacy of my own home. But how "fit" can WiiFit actually make someone? Is it a game in a fitness setting or a fitness program in a game format?
2. Where were you during the GDC? Miyamoto's Wife-O-Meter and Reggie's 1% of the system was purchased by people over 60 years of age. That is unheard of in this industry. I think that Nintendo pretty much showed their cards to what's their media image is going to be. I am tired of saying the same thing over and over again, so this is the last time:
You found all the announcements and release dates online, the DS and Wii forums are hopping with news about new games, and you've been reading everything for the longest time. Explain to me, why should Nintendo waste their time on catering to your obsessive-compulsive asses instead of telling the media to deliver the message to their "casual" audience who do not look up such things and who are much less patient than us when it comes to waiting for new media for their console?
3. Slashdot is questioning the new E3, as am I: (I added the bold text where I found it most appropriate)
This year's E3 is substantially different than events of the past, with an easily navigated show floor just one of the signs of the changing times. There are a number of questions up in the air as to what the new face of E3 means. Hideo Kojima (creator of the Metal Gear series) went on record at the Konami conference saying that he considers the new format a waste of time. Game|Life's Chris Kohler has a piece up on this subject, and he says that the new E3 is all about the status quo: "Yes, there were press conferences. But when Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony all decide to only show their 2007 games (for the most part) and hold back on announcing huge news (entirely), you know something's up with the venue. At any rate, gamers hoping for some kind of shift in momentum, no matter which direction, didn't get their wish. This year's E3 is all about maintaining the status quo. Typically, it's been the 'battle of the press conferences' to see who 'wins E3.' This year, everybody surrendered."
4. I know that half of the forums will give me shit for this, but I don't mind pointing out why I don't belong to my own criticism.
Other people have opinions that are just as valid as yours. You don't have to love the Wii to enjoy two or three games on the console, and it's okay to believe that Wii's price point does not justify the hardware you're getting. Whether you are dissapointed with Nintendo or not (dmaul) is the last thing that should be on anyone's mind, and if they argue with you: let them be. Your opinion, for what it is worth to you and to anyone else, is a valid one. Whether people feel that your opinion is based on ignorance or capricious demands does little to change your opinion.
In vain, I urge you to keep this thread free of cockthirsty arguments regarding others' response to Nintendo's Press Conference.
dmaul1114
07-12-2007, 05:33 PM
In jest or not, the fact that you take the time to write such things proves you're pretty much clueless. I'm asking a simple question, you take it as an attack in the name of defense. I'm trying to figure out why that is, but all I keep coming back to is that you can't read.
You're just jealous you're not so witty, though you try so damn hard to be. ;)
I wasn't getting defensive. I could careless what loser fanboys on CAG have to say about anything.
I was just clarifying that I never said Nintendo tricked me, went back on promises etc.
I was just saying they've went in a different direction that I anticipated (or rather went further in the non-gamer direction that I expected) and as such I'm hugely let down by the Wii thus far.
Nothing to blame them for, they're after money like all companies. And no big deal to me either way. They put out more games I want, or a sell the console. Nothing to lose sleep over.
dmaul1114
07-12-2007, 05:38 PM
Explain to me, why should Nintendo waste their time on catering to your obsessive-compulsive asses instead of telling the media to deliver the message to their "casual" audience who do not look up such things and who are much less patient than us when it comes to waiting for new media for their console?
Again, they are doing what THEY should from a business standpoint. MS and Sony have the hardcore gamer market cornered--mushroom breathed nintendo fanboys aside anyway. They can't win that market.
However, many of us are just dissapointed at how FAR they are moving away form hardcore gamers. I was hoping they'd throw us a few more bones aside from just the standard rehashes of the popular franchises (which again, I still love these rehashes, just want some new shit too). But that hasn't panned out yet, and the lack of announcements of anything new for the hardcore crowd at E3 doesn't give me much hope for the Wii to stop being a $250 paperweight/dust collector in my home theater set up anytime soon.
So while I agree they are making the right moves, that doesn't mean I can't be dissapointed at what looks like to be a continued lack of games that interest me.
Strell
07-12-2007, 05:43 PM
You're just jealous you're not so witty, though you try so damn hard to be. ;)
I wasn't getting defensive. I could careless what loser fanboys on CAG have to say about anything.
Goodness. Allusions to anal sex, "loser fanboys." You're right. That is witty. If you are trying to impress VanillaGorilla. Which is kind of like thinking you are awesome because you can melt ice cream with a hair dryer.
Excuse me while I make a joke at the expense of your whore of a mother, since that would be right in line with your reasoning.
dmaul1114
07-12-2007, 05:47 PM
I love how someone tosses your own medicine back at you, then you berate them for making the types of low brow insults you throw around, and then follow that up with your own low brow insults.
Pure internet forum gold, my friend. Pure gold. :D
MarioColbert
07-12-2007, 05:50 PM
Again, they are doing what THEY should from a business standpoint. MS and Sony have the hardcore gamer market cornered--mushroom breathed nintendo fanboys aside anyway. They can't win that market.
The difference between you and many others posting here is that you actually have an answer for my query. And for that, I say "thanks."
You and Strell should both drop pants and bust out the rulers. There is no other way of settling the argument. And that, sirs, is weak sauce.
Strell
07-12-2007, 05:51 PM
You act as if what you said was the end-all be-all of "wit," when there are much more unique and clever things to say.
dmaul1114
07-12-2007, 05:55 PM
You act as if what you said was the end-all be-all of "wit," when there are much more unique and clever things to say.
That, my friend, was a joke designed to ruffle your smart ass, snarky feathers. Mission accomplished. :D
Strell
07-12-2007, 05:57 PM
What happened was simple - I asked you if you like the system, and you gave me about 10 reasons why you didn't. So I asked you why you still own it, and you didn't really have an answer.
You responded with something I'd hear on XBL, and got a high five from the audience of VanillaGorilla.
To assume you annoyed me is hilarious, especially when I'm just asking questions on why you'd own a system you clearly aren't enjoying.
I'm sitting at work with nothing better to do, might as well make conversation. It's too bad you think your comments are worthwhile.
dmaul1114
07-12-2007, 06:02 PM
Dude, you went on a tanget about how myself and others blamed Nintendo for not liking the Wii.
That's what I responded to. I don't blame Nintendo. I blame myself. I'm the one that let my loyalty to Nintendo, and hype for the new controller, persuade me to early adopt the Wii when the GC gathered a fuck ton of dust the prior generation.
And I answered both why I bought it, and why I haven't sold it yet. *shrug*
And like you, I'm sitting at a desk getting paid QUITE well to sit here and berate you. So I can't complain. :D
anomynous
07-12-2007, 06:38 PM
internet beef ftw
Strell, I just wanna know what your problem with broccoli is? Huh? Got a clever answer for that one?
Funny, only vegetable I hate with a passion is the mushroom - can't stand those squeaky/squishy dirt-tasting things. I don't know how Mario does it.
Strell
07-12-2007, 06:55 PM
Strell, I just wanna know what your problem with broccoli is? Huh? Got a clever answer for that one?
It reminds me of your FACE.
Zam!
MarioColbert
07-12-2007, 07:01 PM
Funny, only vegetable I hate with a passion is the mushroom - can't stand those squeaky/squishy dirt-tasting things. I don't know how Mario does it.
Man, you must have had bad ones. I love mushrooms as much as any Hobbit does.
It reminds me of your FACE.
Zam!
Now THERE'S the stinging Strell wit we all expect! :applause:
Mario - I dunno, man, just had an intense dislike since childhood. They just utterly ruin the taste of pizza when people accidentaly put them on there :puke:.
Tybee
07-12-2007, 07:02 PM
I think Strell and dmaul are putting on this elaborate drama to distract us from the fact that they are madly, desperately, sweatily in love.
Don't be ashamed, fellas.
I think Strell and dmaul are putting on this elaborate drama to distract us from the fact that they are madly, desperately, sweatily in love.
Don't be ashamed, fellas.
Blah... My attempt to sidetrack them didn't conjure up nearly as horrific an image!
Ikohn4ever
07-12-2007, 07:19 PM
GoNintendo
Disaster coming along, Project H.A.M.M.E.R. on hold, Smash online not confirmed, and Kirby!
July 12th, 2007
Our very own Lube had a chance to sit down with Beth Llewelyn, and came away with some interesting info. I will have to edit the entire interview over the weekend, but for now we have some quick tidbits.
Disaster: Day of Crisis is still in the works and is “looking very good”
Project H.A.M.M.E.R. has been shelved, but not canceled. No one is working on the game right now.
Smash Bros. Brawl online play can neither be confirmed or denied. Sounds pretty fishy to me!
Kirby has not been abandoned on the Wii. We were told not to forget about Kirby when asked where the Cube version went.
EXStrike
07-12-2007, 08:23 PM
Man, you must have had bad ones. I love mushrooms as much as any Hobbit does.
Shitake mushrooms FTW.
munch
07-12-2007, 08:56 PM
Methinks dmaul1114 is somehow related to jollydwarf.*
*edit-yes, that must be the case.
Methinks dmaul1114 is somehow related to jollydwarf.*
*edit-yes, that must be the case.
And where IS jollydwarf? I'm still waiting for his apology after Galaxy and SSBB were dated for this year, contrary to all his high-and-mighty condescending predictions. I guess we won't get that (if ever) until the games are atcually in store :lol:.
PleasantOne
07-12-2007, 09:39 PM
http://wii.ign.com/articles/804/804275p1.html
I think it only makes me more upset that the Animal Crossing team is taking time off from develoment in order to work on the MII CHANNEL! :bomb:
Dr Mario Kart
07-12-2007, 09:43 PM
As if the Mii channel would take more than a couple of days away from like ONE guy.
seanr1221
07-12-2007, 09:45 PM
Don't worry IO, he also predicted Castlevania on the xbla would come out this halloween. :lol:
The Crotch
07-12-2007, 09:46 PM
And where IS jollydwarf? I'm still waiting for his apology after Galaxy and SSBB were dated for this year, contrary to all his high-and-mighty condescending predictions. I guess we won't get that (if ever) until the games are atcually in store :lol:.He is busy trying to get the games delayed through sheer force of will. If he does not succeed, the shame of being wrong will force him to flee from the internet forever.
Or a day. Whatever.
Dr Mario Kart
07-12-2007, 09:48 PM
Everyone can just put the particular jollydwarf quote in their signature. That always seems to get his attention.
Oops! I did it again.
07-12-2007, 09:58 PM
http://media.wii.ign.com/media/945/945631/imgs_1.html
Hooked! Real Motion fishing. Look at those assy graphics, yowza.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/804/804275p1.html
I think it only makes me more upset that the Animal Crossing team is taking time off from develoment in order to work on the MII CHANNEL! :bomb:
Well, actually, I see that as a good thing because it lends more credibility to the rumors that you'd be able to use items from AC for your Mii characters. If the same team is working both, well, that's good news!
And the article says the AC team put together the Mii channel - as in past tense. They have been done for a while, so hopefully they are already on to AC.
Dr Mario Kart
07-12-2007, 10:06 PM
Heres (http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2573970&postcount=21) a good one, after an edit as well.
No way they'd release Mario Galaxy and Brawl in the same season. I'm not expecting those games this year at all, actually.Maybe 3 or 4 of us should take a different quote saying the same thing.
I know there's probably a MP3 thread somewhere but it appears to be buried now. Anyway, this looks promising:
http://wii.ign.com/articles/803/803978p1.html
E3 2007: Hands-on Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
It plays better than any first-person console game ever... really. And it's one of Wii's best lookers, too.
by Matt Casamassina
July 11, 2007 - For some reason, Retro Studios' anticipated first-person adventure sequel, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, doesn't photograph well. Many of the officially released screenshots of the title look bland, a complaint raised all too often by message board addicts. But we've just compiled two hours with a two-level demonstration of the title and we can tell you, it sure looks good in motion. The game runs in 480 progressive-scan and true 16:9 widescreen mode, which is a first for the series. The artistic presentation of the space stations, craft and planets that make up the universe is very impressive, seemingly more on par with the original Prime than its purple-drenched sequel. Textures are crisper and polished with extra effects such as specular highlights on Aran's ship, for example. Environments are larger and architecture more defined. And while it may seem trivial to some, the inclusion of bloom lighting goes a long way, as bright sources like lava and monitors now glow with welcomed style and realism. All of this and the title seldom dips below a fluidity of 60 frames per second.
...continues...
This has moved up to be probably my most anticipated game of the WHOLE year, and it comes out so soon! I already have it preordered but this preview makes me want to preorder a few more copies ;).
(And yes, I'm aware that previews are often over-inflated in their praise, but this is beyond mere "it looks good").
I watched some of the videos last night and they were stunning - he's definitely right about the static shots vs in motion aspect of it.
DMK - Good find! I didn't remember it even being that emphatic. I'm sure there are more to find. I want one where he calls us all brain-dead fad-chasers (in his own terms of course).
botticus
07-12-2007, 10:41 PM
I wonder if Nintendo will let me work on HAMMER, since no one else is at the moment. I'm a quick learner.
munch
07-12-2007, 11:03 PM
And where IS jollydwarf?
I'm pretty sure he is simultaneously looking at himself in the mirror whilst typing about how everyone on the internet is doesn't it like him because he says stuff that they know is true. He is the master of internet forums. He is . . .*
*edit - JOLLYDWARF
CouRageouS
07-12-2007, 11:47 PM
Any news on that new Mii channel thing? I've been waiting for my Wii to glow since e3 started. We haven't had anything new since Everybody Votes in Feb, though I guess you could count the full Browser in April/May.
Friend of Sonic
07-13-2007, 12:00 AM
And where IS jollydwarf? I'm still waiting for his apology after Galaxy and SSBB were dated for this year, contrary to all his high-and-mighty condescending predictions. I guess we won't get that (if ever) until the games are atcually in store :lol:.
Toots, don't worry because he's slaving and slaving in order to cook up a post designed to make you feel like shit, comprised half of italized text.
But don't fret my blue-eyed doll face he will back to eradicate any rumors of his dickery by yet another display of his repartee and his acumen in everyday life which rivals this entire board and a pack of sperm whales combined.
PleasantOne
07-13-2007, 12:23 AM
Well, actually, I see that as a good thing because it lends more credibility to the rumors that you'd be able to use items from AC for your Mii characters. If the same team is working both, well, that's good news!
And the article says the AC team put together the Mii channel - as in past tense. They have been done for a while, so hopefully they are already on to AC.
I hadn't heard that rumor... hmm. You know what would be neat, is if Nintendo sort of did a take off on the "Home" thing, and let each Mii have their own pad... which you could decorate with a variety of things, incluing things from Animal Crossing.
I really hope you don't use your Mii as your character in Animal Crossing, though... ugh. I like the tradtional AC characters.
I just hope, given all this time, that when AC *does* come out, it is absolutely amazing. Practically perfect in every way, with fantastic online play, and a HUGE variety of bugs and fish and items, a BIG town with lots of residents, tons of holidays and things to do, etc.
On an unrelated note - I just remembered we didn't hear anything about a hard drive... does anyone know if one has been mentioned yet outside the press conference??
Thanks for the info on Metroid, io. I wasn't thinking too much about it because it looks like something I'd suck at... but if it plays THAT well, maybe I'd do ok!
MarioColbert
07-13-2007, 01:17 PM
Well, although I can't speak for JollyDwarf's family, friends, or loved ones, I'm quite certain that he himself has no need for WiiFit.
While unleashing a "season finale plot twist" in his oscar-worthy performance (the plot twist was that he's putting me on ignore, and/or opening the hatch) he mentioned that "all Nintendo fanboys make me sick." It is assumed that with the curreny press love and constant Nintendo-friendly numbers JollyDwarf is constantly puking his guts out. He needs "WiiSmokeWiid" to be able to sustain food in light of all recent Nintendo fanboyism, that isn't likely to die anytime soon.
Give the guy a break, if anything, he's pretty damn funny.
LinkinPrime
07-13-2007, 02:18 PM
I was curious to find out what kind of swag was given out at this year's E3 and it seems like not much.
This is the only interesting I found on eBbay:
http://i9.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/aa/17/028c_1.JPG
Pretty neat. I already have a yellow one from the movie "Crank".
EXStrike
07-13-2007, 02:21 PM
That is pretty fucking awesome.
Tybee
07-13-2007, 02:42 PM
I was curious to find out what kind of swag was given out at this year's E3 and it seems like not much.
This is the only interesting I found on eBbay:
http://i9.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/aa/17/028c_1.JPG
Pretty neat. I already have a yellow one from the movie "Crank".
Wow...That's...um...classy.
Did they give you some rubber tubing and a social disease, as well?
LinkinPrime
07-13-2007, 02:46 PM
Wow...That's...um...classy.
Did they give you some rubber tubing and a social disease, as well?
Its a pen...why you gotta mock it, its cool.