PS3 101: New user's guide to the PS3 (ask questions here -- TMK is on duty)

[geko29]

Hold the power button for 5 seconds when you turn it on (wait until it beeps a second time). That switches the video output to 480i/composite.

[cdietschrun]

You rock! I played most of the night thanks to you geko29.

[Plinko]

I have a 60GB PS3 and I'm having a problem playing Chrono Cross. The game just freezes at certain points in the game whenever I try to use magic. If I don't use magic, it plays just fine.

The weird thing is that the problem isn't listed on the Sony website, the only two problems were extremely minor. That's why I decided to play the game and plunk down 10 hours of my life into it.

Anyone here heard of such a problem? Or is there something wrong with my ps3?

Just wanted to add that I have the same problem. It only occurs when using elements. It's a huge problem and, according to the boards at the official playstation site, Sony won't acknowledge that it exists.

[Foladar]

Quick question, I know the charger for the sixaxis is USB, so can it just plug into any usb thats able to be used? My ps3 is across the room, and it needs a charge, so could I use my PCs usb?

[v1et r1ce]

Opinion answered question...

Should I get one now or later?

I'm not paying (my dad is) and he wants to use it for a blue ray player. I was wonder if there is any chance blue ray savings will come back? I doubt a price drop is near so the free blue rays are my only hope.

[aznguyen316]

Quick question, I know the charger for the sixaxis is USB, so can it just plug into any usb thats able to be used? My ps3 is across the room, and it needs a charge, so could I use my PCs usb?

I'm pretty sure this can be done. I do it this way for my xbox 360 controllers and seeing how the PS3 is more PC friendly, I'd say yes. TRY IT =)

[doraemonkerpal]

Quick question, I know the charger for the sixaxis is USB, so can it just plug into any usb thats able to be used? My ps3 is across the room, and it needs a charge, so could I use my PCs usb?

Yes, you can plug it into your pc usb and it will charge :)

I tried plugging it directly into the wall socket though using an adapter and that did not work.

[Hockey37]

I have a charging stand for my controllers. Should I remove them once they are charged, or would it be ok to leave them in there until they need used. Also, should I wait until the charge gets low on the controller before I charge it, or could I charge it after every use with no ill affects?

[The Mana Knight]

Yeah, you can use a PC to charge PS3 controllers. I actually recommend it because it's much easier.

[CAGIronMan]

I want a PS3 so bad...

[aznguyen316]

I've been checking random PS2 games I may possibly play on the PS3 via their website compatibility check list. Of those include the upcoming MGS: Essentials and Persona 3:FES and I was wondering on some people's opinions. Does the 80gb not play any major titles that the 60gb does? I'm thinking about getting either a 60gb or an 80gb off of gamefunk. If there are no 60gbs available I may just get the 80gb and BC looks decent for a few titles I checked. Are fans/heat issues better than 60gb? thanks!

btw I do have a PS2. I just want to clear up the entertainment area and go wireless =)

[geko29]

Opinion answered question...

Should I get one now or later?

I'm not paying (my dad is) and he wants to use it for a blue ray player. I was wonder if there is any chance blue ray savings will come back? I doubt a price drop is near so the free blue rays are my only hope.
There's no reason for them to bring back the 5-free promo. People who want Blu-Ray now will buy it at some point, regardless of whether or not they get free movies. When there was a format war on, they needed the promo to keep from losing sales. Now that the threat's gone, so is the impetus for the freebies.

If you want one now, get one now. If you want to wait (for a new model, different bundle, lower price, whatever), then do that.

[Wolfpup]

I'm actually glad that promotion's over since maybe it'll mean we finally get the STORES to offer some promotions-gift cards, free games, whatever.

So often last year they'd have some free game promo on the X-Box, and for the Playstation they'd be like "get these free Blu Rays discs!" as though it was their promotion.

The 80GB unit doesn't play Shadow of Destiny apparently, which stinks :(

[slowdive21]

I just won a PS3 40GB version...Is that a big enough HD? Is this one of the PS3s that you can swap out the hard drive? Am I better off buying an 80 GB model? I was going to buy a PS3 anyway, since I am not a fan of the xbox consoles.

[mguiddy]

I just won a PS3 40GB version...Is that a big enough HD? Is this one of the PS3s that you can swap out the hard drive? Am I better off buying an 80 GB model? I was going to buy a PS3 anyway, since I am not a fan of the xbox consoles.

You can swap out the hard drive, yes.

If you want any backwards compatibility, yes, you're better with an 80gig.

[kube00]

Question, at school I had my ps3 set up on an hdmi connection, and since I'm now on spring break I was going to switch back to A/V but I don't have the hdmi cable or an hdmi compatible tv at my parents' house, is there anyway to change the A/V connections if you cannot see the picture? A default reset maybe?

[The Mana Knight]

Question, at school I had my ps3 set up on an hdmi connection, and since I'm now on spring break I was going to switch back to A/V but I don't have the hdmi cable or an hdmi compatible tv at my parents' house, is there anyway to change the A/V connections if you cannot see the picture? A default reset maybe?This has been answered hundreds of times but just hold the power button when you turn the PS3 on (on the console itself). You'll hear the first beep (don't lift your finger), and then another beep after 5 seconds or so (then you lift your finger). The PS3 will reset to 480i/p and the A/V cables will work.

[kube00]

Thanks Mana Knight!

On another note when i get back to school all have is hdmi, do I just plug it in and go from there or do I have to find a tv with hdmi and a/v so I can configure the a/v?

[FriskyTanuki]

Thanks Mana Knight!

On another note when i get back to school all have is hdmi, do I just plug it in and go from there or do I have to find a tv with hdmi and a/v so I can configure the a/v?
It should ask you when you boot it up if you want to use the HDMI connection for video and audio if you don't connect the composite cables.

[DeskLaser]

Is there any type of update you can download to play AAC files off of an iPod? Everything I import to iTunes is in AAC format. I tried plugging in my iPod, and the PS3 only picked up 3 tracks, all MP3s. Odd thing was it didn't pick up podcasts either, which should be in the MP3 format.

[Wolfpup]

I just won a PS3 40GB version...Is that a big enough HD? Is this one of the PS3s that you can swap out the hard drive? Am I better off buying an 80 GB model? I was going to buy a PS3 anyway, since I am not a fan of the xbox consoles.

You can swap out the hard drive, yes.

If you want any backwards compatibility, yes, you're better with an 80gig.

Just to clear for Slowdrive, ALL Playstation 3s have upgradeable hard drives. 40GB is way more than enough if you're using it as a game machine, but it is upgradeable. Backwards compatibility is the big issue with the 40GB model (why I'm waiting for the new 80GB model).

[mguiddy]

Just to clear for Slowdrive, ALL Playstation 3s have upgradeable hard drives. 40GB is way more than enough if you're using it as a game machine, but it is upgradeable. Backwards compatibility is the big issue with the 40GB model (why I'm waiting for the new 80GB model).
Was it confirmed that the new 80 will have BC?

[FriskyTanuki]

It should be the same as the 80 GB's that are out there now.

[slowdive21]

I just want to double check something. The only differences other than storage in the 40 and 80 Gig models are the 80 gig has Memory Stick/SD/CompactFlash Slots and 2 more USB ports?

And the 80 gig is backwards compatable? is there a software download that would make the 40 gig backwards compatable? If they have the same tech specs according to scea.com, why is one backwards compatable?

Do either of these models have the cell processor or is that only the originals? Has anyone noticed a difference in performance?

I originally wanted a 60 Gig, but I won a 40 gig and I am wondering if I should dump it and find a 60 or 80 gb.

[mguiddy]

I just want to double check something. The only differences other than storage in the 40 and 80 Gig models are the 80 gig has Memory Stick/SD/CompactFlash Slots and 2 more USB ports?

And the 80 gig is backwards compatable? is there a software download that would make the 40 gig backwards compatable? If they have the same tech specs according to scea.com, why is one backwards compatable?

Do either of these models have the cell processor or is that only the originals? Has anyone noticed a difference in performance?

I originally wanted a 60 Gig, but I won a 40 gig and I am wondering if I should dump it and find a 60 or 80 gb.
I've heard that the 40 gig has silver painted trim and the 80 has reflective chrome trim, but according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3#Retail_configurations) the 40 has chrome trim too.

No there isn't a download to make 40s backwards compatible. Doesn't mean they won't make one eventually though.
The scoop with BC is that the 20 and 60 has both the CPU and the GPU chips from the PS2. The 80 removed the CPU chip, relying on software emulation to replace it. The 40 removed both chips.

All PS3s have the Cell processor.

[slowdive21]

Thanks for the help! I think I might dump this one and wait for the MG4 bundle. Dualshock and backwards compatable for only $100 more...sounds good to me!

[aznguyen316]

okay guys, figured I'd ask this here so as to not clog up the boards..

I'm looking at an 80GB PS3 that was purchased new in Nov. 07 but has been sent in to Sony and they sent him back a "new" one. The guy wants to sell the one he got back and will include the original receipt w/ warranty good until Nov. 08

So, my question is, will this receipt work for me? Secondly, will Sony cover the refurbed unit for Warranty, if so how? If they require receipt, if the unit is different, how will the receipt match up with the unit that was sent back? I can get a good deal on this and w/ receipt it makes it seem a little easier if I ever needed warranty. Thanks guys!

[richierich]

well how much is he asking? Do you think it's good enough to deal with the hassle?

[aznguyen316]

well how much is he asking? Do you think it's good enough to deal with the hassle?

Well, the way I see it, isn't the refurb w/ receipt "better" than buying a brand new unit off ebay b/c those won't have receipts even if they're new right? So if I did buy a new unit off someone, wouldn't I be SoL if I needed a repair, because let's face it, shit happens even if it's a brand new unit. In this case, I'd have a receipt so I could get it repaired, I'd hope. What I want to know is if I could use the original receipt on an already refurbed unit.

He's asking $400 but I could probably get it lower if I showed him cash. Craigs list, local so I could check it out too.

[richierich]

I dunno, he's discounting $100 off for a "new" system. Just be careful, since it deals with craigslist.

[bordjon]

Hi - didn't find this while searching here and didn't find too much on a google search. Does anybody know a way to play internet radio on the ps3? I'm really just specifically looking to play radioparadise. I use cidero radio to serve up internet radio to my two smc audio streaming devices. Cidero shows up on my ps3 but once I get to the mp3 stream that I want it says "unsupported data" I was wondering if anybody has gotten streaming internet radio working? You can pm me might be the best way to respond - thanks!

[slowdive21]

Another question. I was at BB today and I asked the kid in the games section if they had any 80 GB PS3s. He said the 80 GB is discontinued and that they are going to get a new 40 GB version with BC. I checked the BB website and the CC website and neither has the 80 GB version listed. So has the 80 GB been pulled until the MG4 bundle? Has anyone heard about a BC 40GB version? Or is it the format war win that makes them HTF?

[aznguyen316]

80gb has been discontinued for awhile, to be reintroduced for MGS4 bundle come June.. as for a BC 40gb I don't know about that.. but hey it's possible.. if it were the white ones that were supposedly coming in this month.

[Warner1281]

okay guys, figured I'd ask this here so as to not clog up the boards..

I'm looking at an 80GB PS3 that was purchased new in Nov. 07 but has been sent in to Sony and they sent him back a "new" one. The guy wants to sell the one he got back and will include the original receipt w/ warranty good until Nov. 08

So, my question is, will this receipt work for me? Secondly, will Sony cover the refurbed unit for Warranty, if so how? If they require receipt, if the unit is different, how will the receipt match up with the unit that was sent back? I can get a good deal on this and w/ receipt it makes it seem a little easier if I ever needed warranty. Thanks guys!

The rufurbed unit has the same warranty the original unit did or a 3-month warranty, which ever is longer. The refurbed unit should actually have the same serial number as the original, so the receipt will still match the unit.

[aznguyen316]

The rufurbed unit has the same warranty the original unit did or a 3-month warranty, which ever is longer. The refurbed unit should actually have the same serial number as the original, so the receipt will still match the unit.

Thank you very much sir!! I feel this is the better way than a used off gamefunk b/c of the receipt and warranty. It's still sealed in packaging so I'll prob have to jump on this.

[torifile]

Question: What happens if I get a new console - like say I get the MGS model and get rid of my 40 gig model - and I've shared all my available PSN game downloads? How do I get the games that were shared *to* me?

[jdawgg76]

Turned on my PS3 today and it asked if I wanted to use the HDMI connection (like the first time I hooked up the system). Nothing had changed to the unit. Didn't disconnect it or switch cables or anything like that. Is that a normal quirk or something? Also, I finally dug up my GT4 and wow, much better looking than my other 1080i PS2 game, Tourist Trophy.

[Foladar]

How would someone get mp4 files onto the ps3? I tried copying onto a 2gb SD and using a usb reader, however it came up "unsupported file" and Vista's WMP11 refuses to allow the mp4 into its library so I could stream it because it doesn't have a codec, or something. I tried the PS3X Media Server thing, but that didn't work either. Isn't there *some* easy way to get these files over onto my PS3 to watch? I've tried for several hours and there seems to be no possible solution.

[FriskyTanuki]

How would someone get mp4 files onto the ps3? I tried copying onto a 2gb SD and using a usb reader, however it came up "unsupported file" and Vista's WMP11 refuses to allow the mp4 into its library so I could stream it because it doesn't have a codec, or something. I tried the PS3X Media Server thing, but that didn't work either. Isn't there *some* easy way to get these files over onto my PS3 to watch? I've tried for several hours and there seems to be no possible solution.
Try converting them to a format the PS3 can watch. Google "PS3 video 9" and one should pop up that'll work for you.

[Hockey37]

I have a charging stand for my controllers. Should I remove them once they are charged, or would it be ok to leave them in there until they need used. Also, should I wait until the charge gets low on the controller before I charge it, or could I charge it after every use with no ill affects?

Any suggestions?

[Warner1281]

Any suggestions?

If the battery works like any other rechargeable battery, you're better off waiting until the controller dies/almost dies before recharging. For some scientific reason, if you recharge batteries continuously, they lose their ability to hold a charge for long periods of time sooner than if you let them die before recharging. That being said, I don't know if the controllers work like typical rechargable batteries AND even if they do, I still continuously charge my controllers since I don't feel like having my controller die on me 10 minutes into a game because I had to wait for it to die before I started charging (I only have 1 controller).

[dallow]

I also only plug them in when they're about to die.

[aznguyen316]

I'm getting a PS3 monday.. so how can you tell the battery is dying? Like on the 360 it blinks and flashes and there's a battery meter in the guide menu, thanks!

[dallow]

I'm getting a PS3 monday.. so how can you tell the battery is dying? Like on the 360 it blinks and flashes and there's a battery meter in the guide menu, thanks!Same way pretty much.

[FriskyTanuki]

And a message pops up in the corner of the screen to let you know it's running low.

[ninjalunchbox79]

Well my wife suprised me 2day by buying me a PS3 from walmart.com , the 40gb model with spider-man 3!!! Im stoked about it but i was gonna try and find a 80gb model when i come home at the end of the month for R&R. Ive been told the 40gb model doesnt support BC for PS2 games , is this true??? That was one of the reasons for buying the 80gb model , and the bigger HD , but ive been told you can replace any of the HD's with one thats for a laptop?? If this is true then if you replaced your 80gb HD with a bigger one wont you lose BC?? Im just trying to get the full PS3 experince and BC , still wish the 40gb model had the memory card slots too. Anyways any help would be appreciated thanxs in advance

[sasukekun]

Well my wife suprised me 2day by buying me a PS3 from walmart.com , the 40gb model with spider-man 3!!! Im stoked about it but i was gonna try and find a 80gb model when i come home at the end of the month for R&R. Ive been told the 40gb model doesnt support BC for PS2 games , is this true??? That was one of the reasons for buying the 80gb model , and the bigger HD , but ive been told you can replace any of the HD's with one thats for a laptop?? If this is true then if you replaced your 80gb HD with a bigger one wont you lose BC?? Im just trying to get the full PS3 experince and BC , still wish the 40gb model had the memory card slots too. Anyways any help would be appreciated thanxs in advance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation_3#Retail_configurations

[FriskyTanuki]

The hard drive has nothing to do with BC.

[ninjalunchbox79]

So what im gathering from the Wiki is that the 40gb model that my wife bought for me is not BC with PS2 games???

[v1et r1ce]

So what im gathering from the Wiki is that the 40gb model that my wife bought for me is not BC with PS2 games???

Correct. Only the 80gb, 60gb and 20gb are BC with PS2 games if you can find those models.

[geko29]

If the battery works like any other rechargeable battery, you're better off waiting until the controller dies/almost dies before recharging. For some scientific reason, if you recharge batteries continuously, they lose their ability to hold a charge for long periods of time sooner than if you let them die before recharging. That being said, I don't know if the controllers work like typical rechargable batteries AND even if they do, I still continuously charge my controllers since I don't feel like having my controller die on me 10 minutes into a game because I had to wait for it to die before I started charging (I only have 1 controller).

The batteries in the sixaxis are Lithium Ion, like in your cell phone or laptop. The best way to get them to last is to keep them as close to fully charged as possible. This is why, unlike NiCd and NiMH batteries that are shipped (nearly) empty, Lion batteries are always shipped at least half charged.

Charge them whenever it's convenient for you--after every gaming session if you like. Whatever you do, don't wait until the controller shuts itself off to charge them. Repeated deep discharges are bad for any battery (though occasional ones are necessary for niCd and NiMH), but particularly bad for Lion.

[DefinedByClass13]

Does anyone recommend using a usb laptop fan base cooler on the unit?

[primetime]

Does anyone recommend using a usb laptop fan base cooler on the unit?

No need.

[D_Icon]

I filled a flashdrive with songs, videos, and pictures. I then plugged it in to the PS3 and it was able to read the mp3s, but it wouldn't show the videos or pictures. Do the videos need to be in specific format?

[dallow]

I'm assuming you moved it to the right icon on the XMB to view the pics and vids right?

[dallow]

The batteries in the sixaxis are Lithium Ion, like in your cell phone or laptop. The best way to get them to last is to keep them as close to fully charged as possible. This is why, unlike NiCd and NiMH batteries that are shipped (nearly) empty, Lion batteries are always shipped at least half charged.

Charge them whenever it's convenient for you--after every gaming session if you like. Whatever you do, don't wait until the controller shuts itself off to charge them. Repeated deep discharges are bad for any battery (though occasional ones are necessary for niCd and NiMH), but particularly bad for Lion.Oh wow, thanks for the info.
Didn't know the Lithium Ion batter types had different properties.

[primetime]

I filled a flashdrive with songs, videos, and pictures. I then plugged it in to the PS3 and it was able to read the mp3s, but it wouldn't show the videos or pictures. Do the videos need to be in specific format?



I'm assuming you moved it to the right icon on the XMB to view the pics and vids right?


Go to the device and press triangle>show all? Give it a shot at least.

[aznguyen316]

finally got my PS3 guys, been messing with it for the past 4 hours.. haha giving it a good test run since it was used. Anyway, it was damn near new, purchased a refurb'd unit from a guy and he just sold it right when he got it back from SONY.. nothing was on the HDD and everything was in original packaging from sony. awesome deal.

btw the 80gb I got runs pretty hot, well the air around it at least. even more so than my 360 lol

[espy605]

finally got my PS3 guys, been messing with it for the past 4 hours.. haha giving it a good test run since it was used. Anyway, it was damn near new, purchased a refurb'd unit from a guy and he just sold it right when he got it back from SONY.. nothing was on the HDD and everything was in original packaging from sony. awesome deal.

btw the 80gb I got runs pretty hot, well the air around it at least. even more so than my 360 lol

Which is weird, since PS3s rarely fail and 360s break all the time. The PS3 is like an engine exhaust but I'm just glad it's much quieter than the 360.

[dmes65]

Is there a way to take a ps2 game save off of a ps3? Then put it back on to a ps2?

[geko29]

Can't you use the memory card adapter, just like you do when moving saves from PS2->PS3? I'm 99.9% sure you can copy in either direction.

[dmes65]

Can't you use the memory card adapter, just like you do when moving saves from PS2->PS3? I'm 99.9% sure you can copy in either direction.

I will try in the morning, gotta goto work. I hope it works.

[primetime]

finally got my PS3 guys, been messing with it for the past 4 hours.. haha giving it a good test run since it was used. Anyway, it was damn near new, purchased a refurb'd unit from a guy and he just sold it right when he got it back from SONY.. nothing was on the HDD and everything was in original packaging from sony. awesome deal.

btw the 80gb I got runs pretty hot, well the air around it at least. even more so than my 360 lol


Which is weird, since PS3s rarely fail and 360s break all the time. The PS3 is like an engine exhaust but I'm just glad it's much quieter than the 360.


It should be hot on the side where the fans blow all the hot air out. That's good, it means the fans are doing their job. It will normally run pretty warm too.

Unlike the 360, the PS3 keeps the heat outside the system, not inside. ;)

[jdawgg76]

Can't you use the memory card adapter, just like you do when moving saves from PS2->PS3? I'm 99.9% sure you can copy in either direction.From what I understand it did not copy back to a card at first, but a system update made it possible so it should work just fine unless your system doesn't have that update.

[dmes65]

From what I understand it did not copy back to a card at first, but a system update made it possible so it should work just fine unless your system doesn't have that update.

It does work, I just got done transfering it. Plugged the card into my ps2 and it works. Thanks for the help.

[FriskyTanuki]

It should be hot on the side where the fans blow all the hot air out. That's good, it means the fans are doing their job. It will normally run pretty warm too.

Unlike the 360, the PS3 keeps the heat outside the system, not inside. ;)
Which is weird considering how many holes the 360 has on its sides, like the PS3.

[espy605]

Which is weird considering how many holes the 360 has on its sides, like the PS3.

It isn't weird, the 360 was rushed to market to gain early market share. It didn't go through proper testing before being mass produced.

[The Mana Knight]

It does work, I just got done transfering it. Plugged the card into my ps2 and it works. Thanks for the help.Hmm, interested to see someone from an area of Indiana I heard of.

Early last year, we could only copy from memory card to HDD, not the other way around to a PS2 memory card. Also, it's nice because you can use a USB flash to copy the data saves to a computer HDD or something so you can back them up (just in case anything happens).

[aznguyen316]

lol didn't want to stir up some 360 vs debate.. just saying it was really warm around it.. ooh well yeah I'm in the process of making the switch, got a buyer on my elite coming next week so I'm straight. I'm sure I'll have plenty more questions.

1) is there a HDD browser? like an explorer to check out what's on the HDD all in one area via folders or can I only view different files from their appropriate category, ex. photos, vids, game saves.

2) can you have a custom avatar for the PSN? The stock ones all kind of suck.. can you even d/l any from the store?

so far I'm liking the PS3, I feel there is far better integration w/ the 360's dash but the XMB is pretty cool..

[espy605]

lol didn't want to stir up some 360 vs debate.. just saying it was really warm around it.. ooh well yeah I'm in the process of making the switch, got a buyer on my elite coming next week so I'm straight. I'm sure I'll have plenty more questions.

1) is there a HDD browser? like an explorer to check out what's on the HDD all in one area via folders or can I only view different files from their appropriate category, ex. photos, vids, game saves.

2) can you have a custom avatar for the PSN? The stock ones all kind of suck.. can you even d/l any from the store?

so far I'm liking the PS3, I feel there is far better integration w/ the 360's dash but the XMB is pretty cool..

I have both systems and love both, but the shortcomings of each are pretty objective.

1. Nope, kind of lame, but nope. It's as you describe.

2. As far as I know, nope. It's as you describe.

I personally don't need an in-game dash or XMB, since I like game music and if I don't, I have music coming from elsewhere. What I would like though is in-game chat to be a standard function, not a luxury that is in some games and not in others.

[Wolfpup]

finally got my PS3 guys, been messing with it for the past 4 hours.. haha giving it a good test run since it was used. Anyway, it was damn near new, purchased a refurb'd unit from a guy and he just sold it right when he got it back from SONY.. nothing was on the HDD and everything was in original packaging from sony. awesome deal.

btw the 80gb I got runs pretty hot, well the air around it at least. even more so than my 360 lol

Which is weird, since PS3s rarely fail and 360s break all the time. The PS3 is like an engine exhaust but I'm just glad it's much quieter than the 360.

It should be hot on the side where the fans blow all the hot air out. That's good, it means the fans are doing their job. It will normally run pretty warm too.

Unlike the 360, the PS3 keeps the heat outside the system, not inside. ;)

:lol: Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. It's cooler because it doesn't actually vent the heat.

It isn't weird, the 360 was rushed to market to gain early market share. It didn't go through proper testing before being mass produced.

Yeah, but what's weird about that is they've now had 2 1/2 years to fix it, and it sounds like even the Falcons have a much higher failure rate than normal hardware. You'd think they'd have fixed it by mid 2006 at the latest. If you look at the GPU heatsync on the thing now, it's a CRAZY design. It basically has a heat pipe to shunt heat from the GPU off to an an area of the system with more room where they stick a second heat sync for it. Crazy design.

[D_Icon]

Go to the device and press triangle>show all? Give it a shot at least.


Hey thanks, that worked. I didn't know about that.

[Lorddraco07]

Dunno if anything been said but I heard with home there will be a trophy that requires you to be on 100 peoples friend list. That means they'd have to be on yours too. Sounds like the friend list is getting upped to 100 then. Not 100% sure but just heard about the trophy.

[aznguyen316]

I don't have any friends w/ PS3's lol so how in depth is the friends list? Is it anything like the 360? View what they're playing, doing etc? Look into profile information and stuff.

[DefinedByClass13]

I haven't seen what the 360's is like, but it sounds similar to what the PS3 friend list is like.

You see their avatar, their comment which comes up in a caption bubble. You can see what game they are playing, and you go view their profile which has brief info if any at all.

[espy605]

:lol: Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. It's cooler because it doesn't actually vent the heat.



Yeah, but what's weird about that is they've now had 2 1/2 years to fix it, and it sounds like even the Falcons have a much higher failure rate than normal hardware. You'd think they'd have fixed it by mid 2006 at the latest. If you look at the GPU heatsync on the thing now, it's a CRAZY design. It basically has a heat pipe to shunt heat from the GPU off to an an area of the system with more room where they stick a second heat sync for it. Crazy design.

It looks like part of a Star Trek model kit was used to build it.

[The Mana Knight]

I don't have any friends w/ PS3's lol so how in depth is the friends list? Is it anything like the 360? View what they're playing, doing etc? Look into profile information and stuff.Definitely not as in-depth because it's more general. There's just a short about me section (most people leave it blank), your PSN name, and the languages you speak in your profile. It does tell you what game you are playing under your name, but it doesn't go into depth of exactly what you are doing in the game (Just says "TOY HOME", as an example). Oh course there's a message above everyones name that can be freely changed (a lot like a motto on XBL).

Don't worry about lacking friends with a PS3, because you'll make several PS3 friends if you stick close to our CAG PSN community. ;)

I do have to apologize to the 50+ people I removed since I get tons of friend requests at CAG and another forum (limit is only 50).

[aznguyen316]

Thanks mana knight!

[D_Icon]

Is it normal for a system update to take 2 hours? I played online yesterday, but before playing I had to update the system to version 2.17. That took about two hours is that normal? I have AT&T DSL internet.

[The Mana Knight]

Is it normal for a system update to take 2 hours? I played online yesterday, but before playing I had to update the system to version 2.17. That took about two hours is that normal? I have AT&T DSL internet.It's suppose to take 5-15 minutes to do, but if your internet is slow, log onto a slow server, and/or bad time, it may take a while. The download servers have been slowing down over time (they were pretty fast over the summer up until around November, but now it's starting to slow down, probably because of more PS3 owners).

[aznguyen316]

Is it normal for a system update to take 2 hours? I played online yesterday, but before playing I had to update the system to version 2.17. That took about two hours is that normal? I have AT&T DSL internet.

next time if you know there's an update.. get it online from sony onto a flash drive and update via that way. d/l's much faster via computer etc. my opinion.

my question: what game out on the PS3 now is actually worth the $59.99 price tag? I don't usually pay full price for games but I have a special circumstance where I have a giftcard to use and would like to get my first PS3 game lol.

I enjoy FPS and RPGs mostly and simply great games. I should also add I have CoD4 and Oblivion on the 360..

[jdawgg76]

next time if you know there's an update.. get it online from sony onto a flash drive and update via that way. d/l's much faster via computer etc. my opinion.

my question: what game out on the PS3 now is actually worth the $59.99 price tag? I don't usually pay full price for games but I have a special circumstance where I have a giftcard to use and would like to get my first PS3 game lol.

I enjoy FPS and RPGs mostly and simply great games. I should also add I have CoD4 and Oblivion on the 360..I had the same decision to make as I just got my PS3, too and I got Resistance (didn't hurt it was 40 at Target that week). For me it was a choice between that, Uncharted and maybe Motorstorm, but I figured I'd get a great deal on that much sooner than the other two.

[xeno]

I had the same decision to make as I just got my PS3, too and I got Resistance (didn't hurt it was 40 at Target that week). For me it was a choice between that, Uncharted and maybe Motorstorm, but I figured I'd get a great deal on that much sooner than the other two.

Good call on resistance, also when you can i HIGHLY suggest uncharted,rachet and clank, and Folklore. AlsoI suggest the Stranglehold Collector's Edition ,because it has John Woo 's Hard Boiled, and its $40 on amazon or cheaper if you get it used from a seller

[jdawgg76]

Good call on resistance, also when you can i HIGHLY suggest uncharted,rachet and clank, and Folklore. AlsoI suggest the Stranglehold Collector's Edition ,because it has John Woo 's Hard Boiled, and its $40 on amazon or cheaper if you get it used from a sellerThanks, it was really hard to decide between RFOM and Uncharted as I wanted Uncharted a little more, but the true CAG in me won out. I've never been that interested in R&C, but everyone says it's so good I might have to check it out sometime, I actually already got Folklore (and Ninja Gaiden) clearanced at Target for 15 as well as Untold Legends for 3 at Frys. I already got Stranglehold on 360 from Target, too ;) If any PS3 gamers here don't look at the Target thread, they're starting to clearance PS3 games like those two mentioned and F1, MLB 2007, Jericho and a couple others I think. I haven't even played RFOM that much since I've got CoD4 and haven't even gone online partially because I keep getting DNS errors bc the PS3 and my PCs have a conflict. Gotta sit down and figure that one out.

[mguiddy]

my question: what game out on the PS3 now is actually worth the $59.99 price tag? I don't usually pay full price for games but I have a special circumstance where I have a giftcard to use and would like to get my first PS3 game lol.

The Warhawk bundle...

[aznguyen316]

The Warhawk bundle...

is there a demo available? I should've grabbed this when it was $40 at target.. heard some good things, but I'm not really into airplane games

[mguiddy]

is there a demo available? I should've grabbed this when it was $40 at target.. heard some good things, but I'm not really into airplane games
No demo. It isn't an airplane game like say Ace Combat is. It's an online only third person shooter with vehicles. 90% of the time you don't need to fly, there are a few maps that basically require flying and some servers feature dogfight games, which are flying only. I've heard it compared to the Battlefield games.
It was my first PS3 game and if it were my only, I'd be plenty satisfied with it.

[aznguyen316]

No demo. It isn't an airplane game like say Ace Combat is. It's an online only third person shooter with vehicles. 90% of the time you don't need to fly. I've heard it compared to the Battlefield games.
It was my first PS3 game and if it were my only, I'd be plenty satisfied with it.

I see, so.. are there plenty of people online still?

[mguiddy]

I see, so.. are there plenty of people online still?
Yep. And there are weekly CAG clan nights.

Also if you don't want/need the headset, Warhawk is available to download from PSN for $40 (I think), though the download version has the limitation of being attached to the PSN ID that downloaded it (again, I think).

[rscaramelo]

Well I did jump to PS3 (40gb) from 360. I was already a PSP fanboy of sorts so it was an easy transition. Now I just need games. I only have MLB 08 The Show (which kicks ass). I'm offloading some 360 games on Goozex and picking up PS3 stuff in return. I'm very excited. I'll be searching here for what's worthwhile in the PS Store for downloading.

RC

[Wolfpup]

Yep. And there are weekly CAG clan nights.

Also if you don't want/need the headset, Warhawk is available to download from PSN for $40 (I think), though the download version has the limitation of being attached to the PSN ID that downloaded it (again, I think).

Do you know if it's less restrictive than Microsoft's DRM? Like more like Steam where you can actually run it on a second (or 30th) Playstation 3 if you "activate" it or whatever one time, and then you can play it offline? (Personally I'm not buying downloadable content unless it works like that-I don't want to be restricted to being online or only having 5 activations or whatever if I get a second PS3.)

[mguiddy]

Do you know if it's less restrictive than Microsoft's DRM? Like more like Steam where you can actually run it on a second (or 30th) Playstation 3 if you "activate" it or whatever one time, and then you can play it offline? (Personally I'm not buying downloadable content unless it works like that-I don't want to be restricted to being online or only having 5 activations or whatever if I get a second PS3.)
I'm pretty sure the Warhawk download works just like every other PSN game, that is to say once you buy it you get 5 downloads. There is a way to share PSN games but I don't know what the restrictions are, as I've never done it. Look in the PSN Gamesharing thread(s) or wait and hopefully someone more experienced with gamesharing will pop in here.

[FriskyTanuki]

Warhawk has a special DRM in that it only works with the username that bought it, so you'd be selling off 4 duds to 4 soon-to-be-pissed-off people.

[ratzombie]

If I connect a PS3 via HDMI, will I be able to output audio via a optical cable? I don't have an HDMI receiver so I need to be able to do that.

[guyver2077]

If I connect a PS3 via HDMI, will I be able to output audio via a optical cable? I don't have an HDMI receiver so I need to be able to do that.

yes. i used to use optical out before i got my hdmi receiver

[The Mana Knight]

If I connect a PS3 via HDMI, will I be able to output audio via a optical cable? I don't have an HDMI receiver so I need to be able to do that.Yes, because the optical is on the back of the PS3 console itself, separate from the HDMI. You can buy cheap HDMI cable from monoprice if you don't have one, then use an optical cable separately.
Do you know if it's less restrictive than Microsoft's DRM? Like more like Steam where you can actually run it on a second (or 30th) Playstation 3 if you "activate" it or whatever one time, and then you can play it offline? (Personally I'm not buying downloadable content unless it works like that-I don't want to be restricted to being online or only having 5 activations or whatever if I get a second PS3.)For sure it's less restrictive. Like when I did a system back-up utility when changing my HDD, all my games copied to my new HDD and had zero issue playing them. :)

[ajumbaje]

I dont have a ps3, but I will in the near future.

I was wondering if there was a way I can copy my save file of uncharted from my friends ps3(60gb) onto a jump drive and put it onto a new 40 gb ps3?

if not, will this new 80 gb model have the card reader and could I do the same thing but with the card reader instead of a jump drive?

[Oxygen]

I dont have a ps3, but I will in the near future.

I was wondering if there was a way I can copy my save file of uncharted from my friends ps3(60gb) onto a jump drive and put it onto a new 40 gb ps3?

if not, will this new 80 gb model have the card reader and could I do the same thing but with the card reader instead of a jump drive?

You can use the USB flash drive - no need for a card reader. I do this to backup my saves.

[ajumbaje]

You can use the USB flash drive - no need for a card reader. I do this to backup my saves.

NICE!!!

[blueweltall]

Looking to upgrade my HDD. Whats a good reliable drive to get and who have the best price?

[The Mana Knight]

Looking to upgrade my HDD. Whats a good reliable drive to get and who have the best price?Just get a SATA 2.5" laptop one and you should be fine. Most go to Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=380&name=Laptop-Hard-Drives), although I just bought an actual retail boxed HDD.

This is the one I have (which I saw at Office Depot, Staples, and Fry's, although I got mine at Fry's):
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/100205/Internal-Notebook-Hard-Drive-5400-RPM/

I wanted to get an actual retail boxed because if there was a problem, I could easily return it to the store and comes with a 5 year limited warranty. Also, the PS3 HDD is a Seagate, so I felt it was best to stick with them since my previous one was pretty good. I got mine for $150, although it appears to be on sale.

It's up to you whether to buy online or B&M. Just be careful not to strip the screws when upgrading.

Here are some of my HDD upgrade pictures.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/The_Mana_Knight/Gaming/PlayStation3/HDD1.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/The_Mana_Knight/Gaming/PlayStation3/HDD3.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/The_Mana_Knight/Gaming/PlayStation3/PS3HDDsizeupdate.jpg

If you have a decent size USB flash drive or external HDD, I recommend you do a system backup utility to back everything or most everything up, so you can restore everything after the upgrade and not have to re-download everything.

[shrike4242]

TMK, when you did the upgrade, did you back up your drive to an external HDD or flash drive? If so, what did you have to deal with not coming over with the backup/restore?

[The Mana Knight]

TMK, when you did the upgrade, did you back up your drive to an external HDD or flash drive? If so, what did you have to deal with not coming over with the backup/restore?Well, when doing a system back-up utility, I only had a 512MB USB flash drive. If I had an external HDD, I could have backed up everything. I only transferred over photos, one PSN game (Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo), some Game Data Utility (which had some paces), all my saved data, themes, and so on. When trying the backup utility the first time, it told me I needed to free up 12MB more, so it will tell you if you have enough space to successfully backup.

Once I swapped the HDD, I'm prompted to format the HDD and the PS3 restarts. Once it does, it logs me in how I normally do (all the accounts I created remain uncharted and stuff, but the XMB becomes blank. I go back to the back-up utility and restore everything (which doesn't take long at all). As soon as I did, my PS3 looked EXACTLY the same way it did before I changed my HDD. I ended up just re-downloading all my demos and the majority of patches unfortunately (due to not having a big enough drive).

Anyway, previously, I could not copy over protected saved data (like High Velocity Bowling data, Shining Tears PS2 data, DMC4 Network data, etc.) when doing it manually. When restoring everything I backed up, every single thing including all the protected saved data copied over to the new HDD.

I HIGHLY recommend to any PS3 owner who has a big external HDD to do a system backup utility every month at least, so if something happens to your PS3 (HDD dies, console dies, PS3 stolen, or whatever), you can easily restore what you had.

[shrike4242]

Well, when doing a system back-up utility, I only had a 512MB USB flash drive. If I had an external HDD, I could have backed up everything. I only transferred over photos, one PSN game (Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo), some Game Data Utility (which had some paces), all my saved data, themes, and so on. When trying the backup utility the first time, it told me I needed to free up 12MB more, so it will tell you if you have enough space to successfully backup.

Once I swapped the HDD, I'm prompted to format the HDD and the PS3 restarts. Once it does, it logs me in how I normally do (all the accounts I created remain uncharted and stuff, but the XMB becomes blank. I go back to the back-up utility and restore everything (which doesn't take long at all). As soon as I did, my PS3 looked EXACTLY the same way it did before I changed my HDD. I ended up just re-downloading all my demos and the majority of patches unfortunately (due to not having a big enough drive).

Anyway, previously, I could not copy over protected saved data (like High Velocity Bowling data, Shining Tears PS2 data, DMC4 Network data, etc.) when doing it manually. When restoring everything I backed up, every single thing including all the protected saved data copied over to the new HDD.

I HIGHLY recommend to any PS3 owner who has a big external HDD to do a system backup utility every month at least, so if something happens to your PS3 (HDD dies, console dies, PS3 stolen, or whatever), you can easily restore what you had.Good to hear about the info coming over. I had a 160GB PATA drive I pressed into service as an external drive, and it was 19GB of data that was backed up. I swapped out the drive, and once again, I say that anyone that uses aluminum screws to save a penny or two should be beaten to death with a flail made from rusty nails and steel screws. I ended up stripping one of the 4 HDD screws, though managed to get it off and back on again. Blue screw was a small issue.

I'll keep the external HDD idea in mind for the future, though the issue with the PS3 not knowing anything else except FAT32 partitions doesn't sit well with me. FAT32 over 32GB is danger territory, so I wish they'd have it take NTFS or EXT2/3 patitions, which are much better than FAT32 for big partitions.

I'll see what happens when the restore is done.

[blueweltall]

Cool thanks TMK!

[The Mana Knight]

Good to hear about the info coming over. I had a 160GB PATA drive I pressed into service as an external drive, and it was 19GB of data that was backed up. I swapped out the drive, and once again, I say that anyone that uses aluminum screws to save a penny or two should be beaten to death with a flail made from rusty nails and steel screws. I ended up stripping one of the 4 HDD screws, though managed to get it off and back on again. Blue screw was a small issue.

I'll keep the external HDD idea in mind for the future, though the issue with the PS3 not knowing anything else except FAT32 partitions doesn't sit well with me. FAT32 over 32GB is danger territory, so I wish they'd have it take NTFS or EXT2/3 patitions, which are much better than FAT32 for big partitions.

I'll see what happens when the restore is done.That's true because when I upgraded my HDD, it said I had 203GB out of 232GB of free space intiially (can't remember the exact number, but it was something like that). I was told the FAT32 format causes that. But oh well, much larger space that what I use to have. :)

blueweltall, this is probably the best tutorial on the internet:
http://www.gamepro.com/sony/ps3/games/features/127009.shtml

[blueweltall]

Wait so did your Seagate HHD package includes all the tools and equipment needed to swap out the HDD? Whats the max hdd size you can upgrade too?

[shrike4242]

That's true because when I upgraded my HDD, it said I had 203GB out of 232GB of free space intiially (can't remember the exact number, but it was something like that). I was told the FAT32 format causes that. But oh well, much larger space that what I use to have. :)

blueweltall, this is probably the best tutorial on the internet:
http://www.gamepro.com/sony/ps3/games/features/127009.shtmlRestore just finished, and it put everything right back the way it was.

111GB formatted capacity from the 120GB drive, 71GB free space after restore. Some of that is slack space that isn't usable due to large cluster size on a larger partition, and I'm sure the PS3 compresses the backup before dumps it off to the disk. When I look at the external HDD with my XP PC, there's nothing in there, except for a folder structure like this:

\PS3\EXPORT\BACKUP\(datetimestamp folder name)\

In that folder are a number of files with names like archive.dat, so I'm guessing they're some type of compressed backup file.

Very easy to do, save the aluminum screw issue.

[The Mana Knight]

Wait so did your Seagate HHD package includes all the tools and equipment needed to swap out the HDD? Whats the max hdd size you can upgrade too?You just need a screw precision screw driver set. The only thing in my box was the HDD. I had to remove five screws total from the thing that holds my PS3 HDD in place, then screw them on the new HDD, then insert it back into my PS3.

Yeah, it's surprising just how simple it is and you really don't need much.

As for size, the biggest 2.5" SATA you can find right now is 320GB. A few got it to work I believe. I know one who did some dissecting and got their PS3 to use a 500GB external HDD (but act as an internal HDD).

[ratzombie]

Pretty awesome, seems like the PS3 is much more open than 360/Wii.

Wii is so damn strict about copying data and so forth.

[The Mana Knight]

Restore just finished, and it put everything right back the way it was.

111GB formatted capacity from the 120GB drive, 71GB free space after restore. Some of that is slack space that isn't usable due to large cluster size on a larger partition, and I'm sure the PS3 compresses the backup before dumps it off to the disk. When I look at the external HDD with my XP PC, there's nothing in there, except for a folder structure like this:

\PS3\EXPORT\BACKUP\(datetimestamp folder name)\

In that folder are a number of files with names like archive.dat, so I'm guessing they're some type of compressed backup file.

Very easy to do, save the aluminum screw issue.Yeah, I stripped the blue screw a little when getting it back on. :-( I heard some at PSU replaced the screws with more durable ones (such as non-phillips head ones with square headed ones). Yeah, mine left a backup on the folder too.

Pretty awesome, seems like the PS3 is much more open than 360/Wii.

Wii is so damn strict about copying data and so forth.PS3 is definitely open. There are some datasaves which are copy protected, but it won't matter if you do a system back-up utility. You can also download game saves to some games off of GameFAQs and copy them to your PS3 console. Another feature I like is if you decide to use a different profile, you can copy your data saves directly to that profile without issues (just gotta choose that option).

[Wolfpup]

Warhawk has a special DRM in that it only works with the username that bought it, so you'd be selling off 4 duds to 4 soon-to-be-pissed-off people.

That part of it is fine with me...I was going to ask whether you need to be online with it if it's played on a different console than the one that downloaded it (that's the big flaw with Microsoft's DRM versus Steam), but I guess Warhawk is online only, so we wouldn't really know.

Looking to upgrade my HDD. Whats a good reliable drive to get and who have the best price?

As mentioned, I'd personally go with Seagate as they tend to be unproblematic. Newegg's a great place to grab it from, but I think sometimes even Best Buy will have 2.5" drives in stock (I don't remember seeing any last time I was there though). With coupons or what not their price wouldn't be bad either.

Pretty awesome, seems like the PS3 is much more open than 360/Wii.

Wii is so damn strict about copying data and so forth.

I'm going to have to ask about that on the Wii forum. I tried copying my Zelda save file onto my Wii, and it wouldn't work! They have DRM on save files! I mean what the heck?

[aznguyen316]

okay when I play a PS2 game or play a DVD or whatever, my tv-->hdmi set up seems to go on and off, which I'm used to. Like it disconnects, then reconnects again for picture on my samsung hdtv.
Now the problem is, occasionally, the SIXAXIS will disconnect and turn off and I have to press the PS button to reconnect. Is this an issue or the norm?

[richierich]

okay when I play a PS2 game or play a DVD or whatever, my tv-->hdmi set up seems to go on and off, which I'm used to. Like it disconnects, then reconnects again for picture on my samsung hdtv.
Now the problem is, occasionally, the SIXAXIS will disconnect and turn off and I have to press the PS button to reconnect. Is this an issue or the norm?

The HDMI issue happens to me too, it's some sort of "rehandshaking" or something. As for the SixAxis disconnecting I've read that's an issue that's fairly widespread. I haven't had it happen to me though.

[FriskyTanuki]

When playing PS2 games? Yeah, it's normal because the system boots up into PS2 mode, so you have to reconnect the controller to play.

[dragonsho]

Just thought I'd let everyone know since there have been alot of DVI/HDMI questions of an alternative (This is mainly for monitors and people that don't have component or HDMI on their monitors)

After trying the HDMI->DVI cable and later finding out my monitor didn't support HDCP, I was trying to figure out how to go about hooking both my 360 and PS3 up simultaneously to my 22" LCD (using VGA on both). I was thinking of buying a mayflash VGA cable from play-asia but it didn't get great reviews. I was going to buy a VGA switch if I went this route but all items combined would have been about $100. I then decided to get the X2VGA. I got home late and decided to hook it up after I finished up some stuff. Basically, it has 2x component video inputs, 1x VGA input and 1x VGA output (to go to your LCD). So far it works great. Everything looks really great in 720p (however it does support up to 1080p). I should mention that my 360 is hooked up via VGA and PS3 is hooked up via component cables. It cost about $80 shipped and seems fantastic so far. It shipped from China via UPS on Friday and got here Today, Monday. So if your monitor doesn't support HDCP or component inputs, there is still a decently priced way to hook up your 360/PS3/GC/PS2/XBOX to your LCD. It should be noted that I don't think it can play games in 480i.

I'll update later tomorrow when I can test it out some more.

[mguiddy]

I always get the "Push PS Button" when starting and quiting a PS2 game. If you only get it occasionally, perhaps it's because of the software emulation of the 80.

[The Mana Knight]

I always get the "Push PS Button" when starting and quiting a PS2 game. If you only get it occasionally, perhaps it's because of the software emulation of the 80.The 80GB is still partially hardware, but yeah, the bluetooth on the PS3 has to re-connect with some of the PS2 hardware regardless, so that's why you gotta do it. It can be annoying, but at least people can play PS2 games on their PS3 (if they do not have a 40GB).

[aznguyen316]

no this wasn't a big deal, I was just curious b/c I remember hearing something about how some 60gbs I think had some problem with disconnecting controller and didn't know if this was what they were talking about.. since I have the 80gb.

[The Mana Knight]

Yeah, it is. When playing a PS1 game, this never happens. But for PS2 games, it always happens in my case. I really want to try an 80GB myself to see what happens, but I figured it still re-connected since I still haven't heard otherwise.

Like you may have also seen, it does sign you off on PSN when playing PS2 games.

[mguiddy]

The 80GB is still partially hardware, but yeah, the bluetooth on the PS3 has to re-connect with some of the PS2 hardware regardless, so that's why you gotta do it. It can be annoying, but at least people can play PS2 games on their PS3 (if they do not have a 40GB).
Yeah, I was just speculating on why, maybe, aznguyen only does it sometimes.

And a lot of the "disconnecting controller" issues you have heard may have been where you'd be pushing left, then stop pushing left, but your character continues to move left for a second or two. Some people have gotten replacement controllers from Sony that fixed the issue and some people have said it's just interference blocking the signal from the controller saying "stop moving left", but I'm not too sure, as if it were just interference, a new button press/stick direction should cause a change, but it doesn't.

[chimpian]

I have a quick question.

So I have the 60 gig ps3 and i tried to play ico, it looks like a mess and enjoyed it more on the ps2 with s-video connections, do you think its a better idea to just hook up the s-video to the ps3 and use that for ps2 games and hdmi for ps3/bluray stuff or mess with the setting for upscaling and such to get ps2 games to look better?

sugggestions on how to make it look better are appreciated too. (i know its a dead horse but beat away)

[The Mana Knight]

I have a quick question.

So I have the 60 gig ps3 and i tried to play ico, it looks like a mess and enjoyed it more on the ps2 with s-video connections, do you think its a better idea to just hook up the s-video to the ps3 and use that for ps2 games and hdmi for ps3/bluray stuff or mess with the setting for upscaling and such to get ps2 games to look better?

sugggestions on how to make it look better are appreciated too. (i know its a dead horse but beat away)If you hook up the PS3 exactly the same as you'd hook a PS2, you'd get the same results you would on PS2 (when played on an HDTV).

[chimpian]

If you hook up the PS3 exactly the same as you'd hook a PS2, you'd get the same results you would on PS2 (when played on an HDTV).


does the ps3 output video to both the s-video and hdmi at the same time? IE do i have to change settings each time?

thanks

[Lost_In_Shadows]

I figured someone or mana might know the answer to this. Why want a ipod play on the ps3? I assume it is cause it is linux based. Will they ever add a update or anything at all to be able to play one?

[mguiddy]

I figured someone or mana might know the answer to this. Why want a ipod play on the ps3? I assume it is cause it is linux based. Will they ever add a update or anything at all to be able to play one?
You can access music off an iPod with the PS3, you just have to have it "Display All" and browse to the "Music" directory. It won't display the tracks in a pretty fashion, but that's Sony/Apple's fault for not programing an "interface".

[The Mana Knight]

does the ps3 output video to both the s-video and hdmi at the same time? IE do i have to change settings each time?

thanksYou would have to change the settings each time.

[nikkai]

Quick question - can I do dual audio output (OPTICAL toslink + HDMI?)

That's what I do w/ my HD-DVD player since I like to use my TV as the center channel... PS3 does it right before asking me whether I want to output to HDMI, then it's one or the other.

[geko29]

No. You have to choose, one or the other.

[richierich]

I don't think you can dual audio output. I would like to do that as well, but it looks like it's not an option.

[HighlightShow]

I just bought a PS3! Woo-hoo, I am so excited.

[The 7th Number]

You know how the 80 gig and the new MGS4 pack will have limited backwards compatibility? Well is there a site that tells you which PS2 games it can play?

[ratzombie]

We don't know yet, but I assume the bundle will be the same 80 GB that is currently available.

I was originally going to try and obtain a used 60 GB, but the MGS4 bundle just seems like way too good of a deal to pass up.

And I also really don't have that many PS2 games, and which ones I do have seem to be compatible with the 80 GB. I looked up all of my games via Sony's own Software Compatibility tool: http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/CompatibleStatus

[The 7th Number]

Ahh thanks for that link. I am going to wait for the MGS4 package too. It would be dumb to buy it now and miss out on getting MGS4, dualShock3, and 80GB hard drive. But i wouldnt mind keeping some classics like God of War/GTA games.

[ratzombie]

Biggest issue for God of War appears to be:

Description: During various FMV sequences throughout the title, the audio plays overlapped by static audio distortion.

It says God of War 2 is fine though, as well as all the Grand Theft Auto games. I think for the most part, the real popular games they will release a patch for to fix any issues. But don't expect them to fix games like "Silpheed" or something equally as obscure.

[dragonsho]

Do they constantly update the emulation for the 80gb or is what's working now be the only games that work forever?

[Snake2715]

You know I am still at a loss as to why the PS3 will turn on from the PSP, but it supposedly cannot communicate directly with the PSP for the remote play, without using an access point....

Does it turn on with the Blu tooth when its local (in the same house) or something?

[LinkinPrime]

Anyone here return a 60GB to Sony recently...I called in on Friday for a coffin...they said about 10 buisness days. Just wondering what kind of actual time I should be expecting it to get here as well as the turnaround time.

[aznguyen316]

^^ may I ask why it failed?

[NamPaehc]

Do they constantly update the emulation for the 80gb or is what's working now be the only games that work forever?

No. There hasn't been an overt update in months, and I don't think they are going to do any more personally. Though I read that in one of the recent patches they might have slipped an update for MGS3 in there for the recently released collection.

[The Mana Knight]

Anyone here return a 60GB to Sony recently...I called in on Friday for a coffin...they said about 10 buisness days. Just wondering what kind of actual time I should be expecting it to get here as well as the turnaround time.
Take a look here:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172183

and here:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158724

Those are two threads I remember well at CAG.
^^ may I ask why it failed?It was dead on arrival when he got it.

[shadylane]

Ok i'm ready to back up my ps3 and ps2 saves over to a hard drive for safe keeping. I'm only making back up copys tho!

does anyone recommend a good site or any methods on doing this? and good step by step instructions and warnings to look out for?

thanks. Really want to do this well since i have 500+ gaming hours on this thing

[LinkinPrime]

Take a look here:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172183

and here:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158724

Those are two threads I remember well at CAG.
It was dead on arrival when he got it.

Thanks as always TMK.

[The Mana Knight]

Ok i'm ready to back up my ps3 and ps2 saves over to a hard drive for safe keeping. I'm only making back up copys tho!

does anyone recommend a good site or any methods on doing this? and good step by step instructions and warnings to look out for?

thanks. Really want to do this well since i have 500+ gaming hours on this thingAre you looking to back-up to an external HDD for everything, USB flash/SD Card/Compact Flash/MS Pro for individual saves? If you choose external HDD, just do a system backup utility and everything will be backed up.

If you want to copy individual saves, just insert whatever storage device you want to save to (an external HDD or USB Flash must be FAT32 format), and copy over each PS1, PS2, and PS3 save individually (copy protected saves cannot be copied over using this method).

[schuerm26]

got a PS3 yesterday and am now wondering where the cheapest place to get the hi-def cables is. I was at Gamestop and HDMI Cables were $80. Is there anything cheaper than this? Thanks for the help.

[ratzombie]

CAGs tend to use monoprice for their cable needs: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10243&cs_id=1024008&p_id=3993&seq=1&format=2

[The 7th Number]

CAGs tend to use monoprice for their cable needs: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10243&cs_id=1024008&p_id=3993&seq=1&format=2


hmmm 4 bucks does seem a lot better than 80. :D

[shadylane]

Are you looking to back-up to an external HDD for everything, USB flash/SD Card/Compact Flash/MS Pro for individual saves? If you choose external HDD, just do a system backup utility and everything will be backed up.

If you want to copy individual saves, just insert whatever storage device you want to save to (an external HDD or USB Flash must be FAT32 format), and copy over each PS1, PS2, and PS3 save individually (copy protected saves cannot be copied over using this method).

what is the difference between a system back up and individual files back up?

are only ps3 games copy protected? and any way around getting those games backed up?

thanks

[mguiddy]

what is the difference between a system back up and individual files back up?

are only ps3 games copy protected? and any way around getting those games backed up?

thanks
A system back up backs up everything on the hard drive.
Individual file back up is... individual. It only backs up what you manually copy.
Only some PS3 save files are protected and the only way around the protection is to do a system back up.

Errr... This (http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/backuputility.html) says that Copy-protected data cannot be restored. Also, saved data that has been restored may not be usable in some games.

I wouldn't be happy if something happened to my system and I lost my saved games because of this. Anyone actually backup copy protected save data and then restore it to a different PS3?

[shadylane]

fuck! i know ninja gaiden is one game...any others?

[primetime]

fuck! i know ninja gaiden is one game...any others?

I think Vegas 2 is protected which sucks because you can kiss all your EXP and ranks goodbye.

[geko29]

hmmm 4 bucks does seem a lot better than 80. :D
I like to spend a couple of extra bucks on their premium cables:

3 foot (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10243&cs_id=1024003&p_id=3991&seq=1&format=2)
6 foot (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10243&cs_id=1024004&p_id=3661&seq=1&format=2)
10 foot (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10243&cs_id=1024004&p_id=3662&seq=1&format=2)

because they look nice and I hate ferrite cores. They're overkill (the previous link will DEFINITELY get the job done no problem), but hey, what's $15? :)

[The Mana Knight]

fuck! i know ninja gaiden is one game...any others?Did you try playing Sigma on the same account name, because that's a game that will work on your account, but if you transfer to another, it will not play on another. I believe that because I tried playing it on my friend's PS3 and couldn't load it.

[Wolfpup]

So there's some kind of DRM on (some) of the PS3's save files too? I just got done reading about the ridiculous Wii DRM, and the 360 does something wacky too. Given that the Playstation Portable doesn't have those issues, I was hoping at least the 3 didn't either.

[The Mana Knight]

So there's some kind of DRM on (some) of the PS3's save files too? I just got done reading about the ridiculous Wii DRM, and the 360 does something wacky too. Given that the Playstation Portable doesn't have those issues, I was hoping at least the 3 didn't either.Most all games are as easy as the PSP, but some have some security since the devs don't want people to cheat or anything.

[anomynous]

Does the 40 GB have the memory card reader?

[Oxygen]

Does the 40 GB have the memory card reader?

Nope.

[anomynous]

Nope.

That's what I was thinking...........

[Oxygen]

That's what I was thinking...........

You can always use a USB card reader though.

[anomynous]

You can always use a USB card reader though.

I was just interested because of mods in UT3,still don't know if I'm gonna get a 60 GB or 40 GB

[The Mana Knight]

I was just interested because of mods in UT3,still don't know if I'm gonna get a 60 GB or 40 GBIf you have a PSP, you might be able to use that.

[anomynous]

If you have a PSP, you might be able to use that.

I do, it's just I want a 60 GB, but don't know if it's really worth the extra money, since BC is THAT important to me.


There's about 5 PS2 games I would like to play though

EDIT: Just ordered the 40 GB from Amazon Warehouse deals for $360

[nikkai]

Appreciate the answer to my dual audio output question - next few questions:

1) For PS2 games, can the PS3 stretch the game out to wide screen? Kinda annoying to only use part of the screen 4:3 on an LCD =/

2) Was the bluetooth disconnecting controller fixed w/ 2.2 update? Cuz I was playing Rogue Galaxy yesterday (which btw is awesome), and the controller disconnected - resulting in me having to move and sit in front of the tv w/ a short ass usb cable attached =P

[aznguyen316]

1) yes you can stretch it. either press the PS button and go to other options and change the screen from there or you can default it in your PS3 settings.. forget exactly where.

[ratzombie]

I do, it's just I want a 60 GB, but don't know if it's really worth the extra money, since BC is THAT important to me.


There's about 5 PS2 games I would like to play though

EDIT: Just ordered the 40 GB from Amazon Warehouse deals for $360

I assume you meant "not THAT important to me."

Otherwise, you're going to be really angry when you try to play a PS2 game in it. :lol:

[anomynous]

Thats what I meant

[espy605]

Snaaaake!

[shadylane]

does anybody knows exactly if backing your hard drive up through the back up utlity of the ps3 creates 1 file on the hard drive or mulitple folders within sub folders with the gamesaves all organized within?

[mguiddy]

Appreciate the answer to my dual audio output question - next few questions:

1) For PS2 games, can the PS3 stretch the game out to wide screen? Kinda annoying to only use part of the screen 4:3 on an LCD =/

2) Was the bluetooth disconnecting controller fixed w/ 2.2 update? Cuz I was playing Rogue Galaxy yesterday (which btw is awesome), and the controller disconnected - resulting in me having to move and sit in front of the tv w/ a short ass usb cable attached =P

1) Yes... but it doesn't stretch the game all the way to the edges. It still leaves a small band on either side. Though I think I've read that some firmware revisions stretch the game all the way to the edge.

2) Do you mean the "I stopped pushing left, WHY ARE YOU STILL MOVING LEFT!! :bomb:" problem? If so no clue, but I doubt it as it seems like its a problem with older controllers. Many have said the DS3 or a new sixaxis fixes that problem.

[nikkai]

Cool thanks - was planning on getting two dual shocks anyway =)

[aznguyen316]

I've been playing God of War on my 80gb and I noticed sometimes it's either slow on button presses I think or it will take a second before I can move at certain points, I'm not sure if it's meant to in game or if it's something from my controller o_O

[Squall835]

I have a question about sending messages. A cag added me to their list tonight, and I wanted to send them a message to thank them, but after I spelled "cag" and hit the triangle button, it deleted the "ag". I had this same problem when trying to spell "kane and lynch" a few weeks ago, and I eventually gave up in frustration. What the hell is the problem?

[Slim Gatsby]

Okay, guys and gals, time for me to throw my hat into this epic thread!

As you can see in my sig, my free PS3 (80 GB + game) is ready to pop -- but an unexpected opportunity has presented itself!

I stumbled across a 60GB PS3 at a local independent retail store that has been sitting behind the counter collecting dust since launch and still is. The price tag is $450...figure an even $500 with tax.

Is it still worth my while to get this with my 80 Gig PS3 on the way? I actually have about $150 in store credit there that I can put toward it. I can sell the new PS3 on here or on CraigsList at under retail (would $475 be a good asking price?) to put towards the purchase of the 60 gig -- but would you say its worth the hassle?

I have an HDTV with HDMI and a 360 w/HD-DVD, and I'm mainly getting this for the Blu-Ray Player (not because HD folded, but because Blu Ray won the second LOST came out on that format). It is probably going to be secondary or even tertiary for gaming; right now I'm adoring my 360 and Wii, but most of my backlog is on my still-connected fat PS2.

Are there any other features besides the hardware BC that the PS3 is missing? It is an important feature to me, but I'm not sure how much that feature is worth money and hassle wise. I actually have a lot of trouble playing PSX and certain PS2 games games in my PS2 with component cables (majorly distorted picture -- does anyone else have this problem?) and hope that it may be remedied using HDMI in the PS3. There's also a media reader, wifi, and more USB ports in the 60 gig, correct?

And while I am a little disheartened about not getting a free game or Blu-Ray or anything...I don't play racing games besides Mario Kart. Oh, and is that 5-free-BluRay promo still going on?

Something that would be awesome in the OP is a breakdown of the eight million SKUs for this and their general retail and secondary price points.


Thanks, everyone!

P.S. I am intrigued by the idea of using it as a media center regardless...how does http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148310 look as far as a replacement hard drive goes? And its easy to do, no special preparations?

And the remote -- worth the $25? Or should I try to find it on sale somewhere (I *do* have credit there...but also some at Best Buy, too)

[The Mana Knight]

I have a question about sending messages. A cag added me to their list tonight, and I wanted to send them a message to thank them, but after I spelled "cag" and hit the triangle button, it deleted the "ag". I had this same problem when trying to spell "kane and lynch" a few weeks ago, and I eventually gave up in frustration. What the hell is the problem?Press L1 and R1 to move the cursor I think, and that will add the letters back. Square button deletes.

[Oxygen]

Are there any other features besides the hardware BC that the PS3 is missing? It is an important feature to me, but I'm not sure how much that feature is worth money and hassle wise. I actually have a lot of trouble playing PSX and certain PS2 games games in my PS2 with component cables (majorly distorted picture -- does anyone else have this problem?) and hope that it may be remedied using HDMI in the PS3. There's also a media reader, wifi, and more USB ports in the 60 gig, correct?

The 80GB is not missing any of those things. It has the card readers, WiFi, and 4 USB ports (like the 60GB). The only difference in the backwards compatibility is that it lacks the CPU (Emotion Engine) which is emulated in software. The graphics chip (Graphics Synthesizer) is there in hardware. This means pretty good compatibility for your PS2 games. All PS1 games play on all PS3s since PS1 play is done thru software emulation. Check the PS3 Compatibility Status Page (http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/CompatibleStatus) for the PS2 games you want to play. It really depends on the game.


And while I am a little disheartened about not getting a free game or Blu-Ray or anything...I don't play racing games besides Mario Kart. Oh, and is that 5-free-BluRay promo still going on?

According to the website (http://bluraysavings.com/), the offer has expired.



P.S. I am intrigued by the idea of using it as a media center regardless...how does http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148310 look as far as a replacement hard drive goes? And its easy to do, no special preparations?

That drive looks fine. Replacing the hard drive is easy. Take the cover off the side, unscrew the tray, put in the new drive, put it back together. There is a guide here (http://www.gamersreports.com/article/43/), and numerous YouTube videos to show you how. You would want to back stuff up, but since the PS3 is new, there is nothing to backup (like saves, music, videos, et cetera).



And the remote -- worth the $25? Or should I try to find it on sale somewhere (I *do* have credit there...but also some at Best Buy, too)

I imagine if you watch movies a lot, it might be useful. I have always used a controller and been fine with it. I have seen it on sale once (for $20), but that was a long time ago.

-- Oxygen

[Squall835]

Press L1 and R1 to move the cursor I think, and that will add the letters back. Square button deletes.

I've tried that, and it still would delete what I'm trying to type.

[aznguyen316]

Hey SLIMGATSBY..

here's my opinion. If you can get the receipt for your 80gb from Trainn, then I'd keep it. It's not worth the hassle IMO for the 60gb unless there is definately a game you wanted to play on PS2 that the 80gb cannot handle. I was looking into 60gbs from gamefunk but opted to get an 80gb. I love it, the 20gb extra space is nice and even though 60gb has hardware BC, I don't think it's worth the trouble JUST for that, when 80gb can do mostly the same. Also I've heard more issues with 60gbs than 80gb, although few problems in general, more 60gbs seem to be refurbed. Also, look up fan noise and heat, I dunno, I just heard better things about the 80gb. This is purely my opinion, and I did a lot of research before investing in the 80gb and HAVE NO REGRETS. My 80gb was used.. but I got a receipt for it w/ Sony warranty until nov 09. Now if you can't get a receipt, go for the 60gb no doubt lol

[Slim Gatsby]

Thanks...i ended up going with the 60 gig, because my PSX and PS2 collection are both in the triple digits so backwards compatibility is pretty important to me. I don't have a single PS3 game, just LOST on Blu-Ray and a ton of media to stream from my PC.

Blu ray is beautiful, but one question --

I recall hearing at some point that you could pop a PSX game in the PS3 and either copy it to the HD or send it to the PSP from there. Is that actually true or am I just crazy? If it is, that means far less disc swapping with my copious numbers of PSX games.

[ratzombie]

Pretty sure there's a deal going on right now that gets you a free remote for your PS3 if you buy one before April, or something like that.

Ask TMK.

[pete5883]

I recall hearing at some point that you could pop a PSX game in the PS3 and either copy it to the HD or send it to the PSP from there. Is that actually true or am I just crazy? If it is, that means far less disc swapping with my copious numbers of PSX games.
Not true. If you buy a PSX game from the PS Store, though, you can play it on either system.

[kklems]

Anyone have any recommendations for a wireless access device for a 20gb ps3? (I have wireless in the home for some computers so I have a network) I have it hard wired for online gaming but I wanted to play around with the psp/ps3 combination and I would assume the ps3 would have to connect to a wireless network to do that.

[geko29]

Is your wired network not attached to your wireless for some reason? Most people's are. IF the PSP can connect to a PS3 via any wireless connection (and not solely through an ad-hoc connection directly between the devices), then this should be fine. I say if, because I don't have a PSP so I don't have any idea how it actually works.

[kklems]

Is your wired network not attached to your wireless for some reason? Most people's are. IF the PSP can connect to a PS3 via any wireless connection (and not solely through an ad-hoc connection directly between the devices), then this should be fine. I say if, because I don't have a PSP so I don't have any idea how it actually works.


I have been sick so my brain is kind of muddled but my cable connection comes into basement where I have a cable modem and a Linksys wireless router. Off the wireless router I ran some CAT cable up to the main floor where I have two wired routers. The PS3 is than connected to that 2nd router so maybe I am tired but I don't think that allows the ps3 access to the wireless network with using the cable into the back of it (20gb without built in wireless)

I was thinking of just grabbing a USB wireless access point and plugging that in but wanted to see what people had done in the past.

[Richlough]

So I guess there's no iPod support on the PS3 .

Any workarounds for this ?

[Immortal fWd]

I'm thinking of picking up a PS3 since I want a blu-ray player. The new bundle released in June, is it going to have backwards compatibility with PS2 again? Should I just wait until then?

[ratzombie]

Yeah, the 80GB does have BC. The only PS3 that doesn't is the 40GB.

It's still going to BC by emulation though, so you'll lose some compatibility with PS2 games. But I feel it's going to be the best deal for a PS3 so I'm waiting for it.

And if you're like me and getting the MGS4 LE you can always sell the regular copy of MGS4 to someone and that'll help pay for the cost of the LE.

[FriskyTanuki]

I'm thinking of picking up a PS3 since I want a blu-ray player. The new bundle released in June, is it going to have backwards compatibility with PS2 again? Should I just wait until then?
Yes, it's a standard 80GB PS3, which will play most PS2 games, but not all. Check here (http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/CompatibleStatus) for specific games. It's a good deal to get a brand new game and the new Dual Shock 3 for the same price as the standard 80GB PS3's.

[Immortal fWd]

Thanks guys, I think I'm going to hold out for the new bundle then.

[ratzombie]

Looks like those from Arizona have taken over the thread. :D

Do you still have to buy the memory adapter for PS2 saves, and if so how much is it?

[Dante Devil]

I'm thinking of picking up a PS3 since I want a blu-ray player. The new bundle released in June, is it going to have backwards compatibility with PS2 again? Should I just wait until then?

I think buying a PS3 as a Blu-Ray player makes a lot of sense. They keep updating it to do all of things that new blu-ray players can do. Very smart of Sony for including this in their system. I know people who are snatching this up just so they can watch Blu-Ray movies on their HDTVs.

[schuerm26]

CAGs tend to use monoprice for their cable needs: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10243&cs_id=1024008&p_id=3993&seq=1&format=2


I know very very very little about this stuff so excuse me if this is a stupid question.

How does that cord plug into a tv? I have an HD TV and a HD Box for cable but it uses the colored plug ins.

Thanks for the help.

[Halo05]

Sounds like you have component inputs. Are there five colors? (White, red, magenta, blue, green)

[The Mana Knight]

Do you still have to buy the memory adapter for PS2 saves, and if so how much is it?The memory card adapter is only needed to transfer PS1 and PS2 saves to the PS3 HDD (you copy them to virtual PS1/PS2 memory cards), and from the PS3 HDD to a PS1/PS2 memory card. You are required to copy the data saves to the HDD since they don't directly read from the memory card reader. It's only $15 and a great purchase (I got one when I first got my PS3).
So I guess there's no iPod support on the PS3 .

Any workarounds for this ?PS3 and 360 owners are different in this way. Most 360 owners are more likely to stream media or plug in their iPod to listen to MP3s. PS3 owners are more likely to have a large HDD and will directly copy all their favorite MP3s to their console.

[schuerm26]

Sounds like you have component inputs. Are there five colors? (White, red, magenta, blue, green)


yeah. 5 different colored plugs

[erehwon]

I finally decided to the next gen. I ordered a 60 gig off of gamefunk (wish I would have seen the original deal :cry:) and it's supposed to get here around the 2nd. I had to get it since I want full BC.

I was wanting some general advice on getting one setup, accessories, and anything else I might want to know. Is there anything I should take special care with since this is a used ps3?

One of the next things I'm going to have to save for is a new TV in my room. My Toshiba tube TV is around 14". It does have component though. I've been running my PS2, Xbox, and GC on that. How playable will ps3 games be on that? The ps1/ps2 stuff should run the same though. I'm probably going to want to look for a TV between 20" and 32". My bedroom at my parents' house isn't that big and a big set isn't good when you're around four or five feet away from the TV.

I was also wondering about the cooling on the 60 gig model. Are there any special precautions I need to do in taking care of this system?

Another concern of mine is dust. I already know that the exterior is a dust magnet. I'm talking about the interior. My room is really dusty. Should just use some of the canned air on it every once in a while or maybe get something to cover it while I'm not using it? I'm assuming this thing is going to move the second most amount of air around for cooling behind my PC and that gets really dusty inside.

I do have a question on games. Are there any good games $25 or under I should look for? I don't have much money at the moment. I'm actually paying for this through ebaying extra stuff from my collection. All the garage saling is paying off again.

[The Mana Knight]

I finally decided to the next gen. I ordered a 60 gig off of gamefunk (wish I would have seen the original deal :cry:) and it's supposed to get here around the 2nd. I had to get it since I want full BC.

I was wanting some general advice on getting one setup, accessories, and anything else I might want to know. Is there anything I should take special care with since this is a used ps3?

One of the next things I'm going to have to save for is a new TV in my room. My Toshiba tube TV is around 14". It does have component though. I've been running my PS2, Xbox, and GC on that. How playable will ps3 games be on that? The ps1/ps2 stuff should run the same though. I'm probably going to want to look for a TV between 20" and 32". My bedroom at my parents' house isn't that big and a big set isn't good when you're around four or five feet away from the TV.

I was also wondering about the cooling on the 60 gig model. Are there any special precautions I need to do in taking care of this system?

Another concern of mine is dust. I already know that the exterior is a dust magnet. I'm talking about the interior. My room is really dusty. Should just use some of the canned air on it every once in a while or maybe get something to cover it while I'm not using it? I'm assuming this thing is going to move the second most amount of air around for cooling behind my PC and that gets really dusty inside.

I do have a question on games. Are there any good games $25 or under I should look for? I don't have much money at the moment. I'm actually paying for this through ebaying extra stuff from my collection. All the garage saling is paying off again.Hey, glad to see someone who lives near me is finally getting a PS3. ;)

As far as accessories are concerned, here are some I feel which are very important:
-HDMI cable from monoprice.com if you have an HDTV (or you can use PS2/PS3 component cables, since the console comes with composite cables).
-Memory card adapter, if you want to transfer PS1/PS2 saves to your PS3 (so you can use them) and back to the memory card.
-USB or Bluetooth headset if you plan to play games online that support it.
-USB or Bluetooth keyboard for typing messages, entering information, etc. is usually good. Any USB Keyboard will work.
-If you plan to use your PS3 extensively for media, the Blu-ray/DVD remote is great.
-You MIGHT want more USB 2.0 cables or longer USB 2.0 cables than what comes with the PS3, since you'll need them to charge controllers, connect PSP to PS3 (if you have a PSP), connect memory card adapter, etc.

PS3 stuff will display on an SDTV, but as a warning, some games may have hard to read text or a bit jaggy due to being designed for an HDTV. PS1/PS2 stuff plays just like it would on a PS2, if you play on an SDTV.

With the 60GB console, just be careful with it and you should be all right. Try to keep it well ventalated and dusting it every once in a while is good (PS3 is like a dust magnet). The 60GB PS3 does get very hot, but rarely there's an overheating issue. I'll let others help you with a TV. ;) As long as your PS3 isn't dusty like that one PS3 a while ago, you should be fine.

As for cheap PS3 games (I'm going to say $30 or under at least, for now):
Folklore (if you can find it for the cheap price)
Ridge Racer 7
Virtua Fighter 5 (It may lack online, but still very good)

There are a bunch of good downloads on PSN which can be bought cheap too.

I'll let others help you with a TV, since I'm not really a good person to ask when selecting a TV.

[erehwon]

Hey, glad to see someone who lives near me is finally getting a PS3. ;)

As far as accessories are concerned, here are some I feel which are very important:
-HDMI cable from monoprice.com if you have an HDTV (or you can use PS2/PS3 component cables, since the console comes with composite cables).
-Memory card adapter, if you want to transfer PS1/PS2 saves to your PS3 (so you can use them) and back to the memory card.
-USB or Bluetooth headset if you plan to play games online that support it.
-USB or Bluetooth keyboard for typing messages, entering information, etc. is usually good. Any USB Keyboard will work.
-If you plan to use your PS3 extensively for media, the Blu-ray/DVD remote is great.
-You MIGHT want more USB 2.0 cables or longer USB 2.0 cables than what comes with the PS3, since you'll need them to charge controllers, connect PSP to PS3 (if you have a PSP), connect memory card adapter, etc.

PS3 stuff will display on an SDTV, but as a warning, some games may have hard to read text or a bit jaggy due to being designed for an HDTV. PS1/PS2 stuff plays just like it would on a PS2, if you play on an SDTV.

With the 60GB console, just be careful with it and you should be all right. Try to keep it well ventalated and dusting it every once in a while is good (PS3 is like a dust magnet). The 60GB PS3 does get very hot, but rarely there's an overheating issue. I'll let others help you with a TV. ;) As long as your PS3 isn't dusty like that one PS3 a while ago, you should be fine.

As for cheap PS3 games (I'm going to say $30 or under at least, for now):
Folklore (if you can find it for the cheap price)
Ridge Racer 7
Virtua Fighter 5 (It may lack online, but still very good)

There are a bunch of good downloads on PSN which can be bought cheap too.

I'll let others help you with a TV, since I'm not really a good person to ask when selecting a TV.

Thanks. Of the accessories you mentioned, I really only need the mem card adapter. I know we have extra hdmi cables for when I upgrade the TV. We should have some extra USB 2.0 cables, though I'll have to search through our box of extra cables. I don't use online much for consoles, so I don't need the headset or keyboard. I play mostly RPGs on consoles.

I really shouldn't do too much looking into TVs. It's going to be a little bit before I can afford one. I was really only mentioning my current TV to see if there might be any issues playing ps3 games on it. I do wonder if there are any good PC monitors out there that could do the job of a TV. I noticed the bigger monitors I was looking at on newegg were cheaper than some LCD TVs of similar size. This approach would also have the benefit of giving me a dual monitor set up on my PC once I want to get a real tv :).

[geko29]

I have been sick so my brain is kind of muddled but my cable connection comes into basement where I have a cable modem and a Linksys wireless router. Off the wireless router I ran some CAT cable up to the main floor where I have two wired routers. The PS3 is than connected to that 2nd router so maybe I am tired but I don't think that allows the ps3 access to the wireless network with using the cable into the back of it (20gb without built in wireless)

I was thinking of just grabbing a USB wireless access point and plugging that in but wanted to see what people had done in the past.
You should only have one router in your house. The devices on the main floor should be SWITCHES, not routers. If that is the case, then everything in your house should be able to talk to one another.

If you really do have three routers in your house, go buy two switches (they're cheap!) and eBay your routers. You'll probably come out ahead.

[anomynous]

So my PS3 might be here tomorrow, but probably Tuesday.

So when I 1st turn on the PS3 for the first time, if I have the HDMI cable plugged in, will it automatically go through that?

[The Mana Knight]

So my PS3 might be here tomorrow, but probably Tuesday.

So when I 1st turn on the PS3 for the first time, if I have the HDMI cable plugged in, will it automatically go through that?Yes, it will tell you it detected an HDMI cable. Be sure to say "Yes" a few times and it will set it up to the maximum resolution your TV supports.

[ratzombie]

Hmm... USB cables for charging controllers? PS3 controllers have their own rechargeable battery? :shock:

[The Mana Knight]

Hmm... USB cables for charging controllers? PS3 controllers have their own rechargeable battery? :shock:Yes. I normally use my PC USB ports to charge my controllers too (although it works by using the PS3 console too).

[ratzombie]

The more I research about the PS3 the more little features I find out about that only makes me want the console more.

Can't wait for June, I have the cash now but I want that damn bundle.

[The Mana Knight]

The more I research about the PS3 the more little features I find out about that only makes me want the console more.

Can't wait for June, I have the cash now but I want that damn bundle.Lol, I could probably list 20+ features about PS3 you didn't know about. ;) One is being able to remotely play PS1 disc based games from your PS3 console, to your PSP via remote play, from anywhere (basically, it's like you stream your PS3 to the PSP).

[torifile]

Lol, I could probably list 20+ features about PS3 you didn't know about. ;) One is being able to remotely play PS1 disc based games from your PS3 console, to your PSP via remote play, from anywhere (basically, it's like you stream your PS3 to the PSP).
I also learned today that you can play PixelJunk Monsters via remote play! What other games are like that?

[The Mana Knight]

I also learned today that you can play PixelJunk Monsters via remote play! What other games are like that?Lair is like that and PS1 games. I cannot remember if anything else is that way off the top of my head.

[torifile]

Lair is like that and PS1 games. I cannot remember if anything else is that way off the top of my head.
I just checked wikipedia:

Games/Software which are playable/useable through Remote Play include:
Lair (video game)
High Stakes on the Vegas Strip: Poker Edition
Aqua Vita (Aquatopia in the United States)
Mainichi Issho (Japanese Game)
Imabikisou
PixelJunk Monsters (PSN game)
Folding@Home (Software)
Playstation 1 Games

About remote play: do I have to be in remote play mode on the PS3 in order to access it? I can't do it from my PSP? That seems like kind of a pain. What if I forgot to put the PS3 in remote play mode before I leave the house or something? Am I missing something?

[Hockey37]

Damn, I didn't know I could use remote play on High Stakes Poker. Sweet.

[The Mana Knight]

Damn, I didn't know I could use remote play on High Stakes Poker. Sweet.That was just added with the recent update for the game.

[Wolfpup]

One of the next things I'm going to have to save for is a new TV in my room. My Toshiba tube TV is around 14". It does have component though. I've been running my PS2, Xbox, and GC on that. How playable will ps3 games be on that?

My guess is barely at all. I haven't used a Playstation 3 on an SDTV, but I can tell you the 360 is barely useable on one. Some games kind of are, but most text is basically illegibal. I'd assume the Playstation 3 is the same way.

I think the TV or PC monitor is a requirement BEFORE getting the system, personally. Some people disagree, but they also make claims like "you don't need to read text to play a game!"

But if you've got a decent computer monitor, you can just use that instead of the SDTV.

Might want to check out Gamefly too to play games cheaper. I don't think there are too many games below $20 yet (although Virtua Fighter 5 is listed at that price in this week's Circuit City ad). I think there are some other games that have been clearanced out at Toy's R Us that might work, if they're still available. That one RPG whose name I forget has been $20 everywhere for a while, but I'm not sure that it's supposed to be all that great (okay reviews though).

[dallow]

Wasn't remote play always there for the poker game TMK?
I remember people posting that it worked when the game launched.
The last update allowed for the cams to work with it.

[dougstill]

Okay so I am thinking about jumping into PS3. My wife has expressed interest in blu-ray and that is mainly what I will be using it for. The occasional game maybe, but I have an xbox 360 that most my friends have.
My question is: Do you have to buy PS3 component cables or do any component cables work? The tv I have does not have HDMI.
Also is blu-ray remote a necessary purchase?
Thanks
Didn't want to search 70+ pages of stuff

[aznguyen316]

Okay so I am thinking about jumping into PS3. My wife has expressed interest in blu-ray and that is mainly what I will be using it for. The occasional game maybe, but I have an xbox 360 that most my friends have.
My question is: Do you have to buy PS3 component cables or do any component cables work? The tv I have does not have HDMI.
Also is blu-ray remote a necessary purchase?
Thanks
Didn't want to search 70+ pages of stuff

PS3 specific component cables are necessary but a Blu-ray remote is not, the controller will be able to control what a remote would.

[The Mana Knight]

Okay so I am thinking about jumping into PS3. My wife has expressed interest in blu-ray and that is mainly what I will be using it for. The occasional game maybe, but I have an xbox 360 that most my friends have.
My question is: Do you have to buy PS3 component cables or do any component cables work? The tv I have does not have HDMI.
Also is blu-ray remote a necessary purchase?
Thanks
Didn't want to search 70+ pages of stuffJust as a warning, by using component cables, you cannot do DVD upscaling.

[ratzombie]

I agree, Wolfpup. I bought my HDTV before I got a 360. But I guess it just depends on whether or not you want to take full advantage of what the current generation systems offer.

[The Mana Knight]

Yes, we had a discussion in this forum as to whether an HDTV is needed for HD gaming (like the PS3):
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155291

[mguiddy]

Might want to check out Gamefly too to play games cheaper. I don't think there are too many games below $20 yet (although Virtua Fighter 5 is listed at that price in this week's Circuit City ad). I think there are some other games that have been clearanced out at Toy's R Us that might work, if they're still available. That one RPG whose name I forget has been $20 everywhere for a while, but I'm not sure that it's supposed to be all that great (okay reviews though).

Enchanted Arms.

[Slim Gatsby]

Lol, I could probably list 20+ features about PS3 you didn't know about. ;) One is being able to remotely play PS1 disc based games from your PS3 console, to your PSP via remote play, from anywhere (basically, it's like you stream your PS3 to the PSP).

Educate me plz.

[The Mana Knight]

Educate me plz.Look at this thread:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164438

[Wolfpup]

PS3 specific component cables are necessary but a Blu-ray remote is not, the controller will be able to control what a remote would.

Also the component cables it uses are the same ones the Playstation 2 used, if you have those.

[anomynous]

Ok, I got my 40 GB PS3 today, and there's only 31 GBs available. I know some of it is used for formatting, but 9 GBs? Is this right?

[The Mana Knight]

Ok, I got my 40 GB PS3 today, and there's only 31 GBs available. I know some of it is used for formatting, but 9 GBs? Is this right?Don't worry about it, it's fine. The PS3 HDD formating is quite weird (due to being FAT 32). I mean, my 20GB was like 15GB out of 18GB available when I got it.

[anomynous]

I was just wondering. Also how do you download themes directly from the PS3 browser?

When I try to do it it says please select storage device.....

[The Mana Knight]

I'm not too sure because I usually download themes from my computer, put them on my USB flash drive within the folder: PS3 -> Theme, and then I install them to my PS3. Someone should be able to help with getting them when using the web browser.

[anomynous]

I just plug my flash drive in, then I did it that way.....

[doctorfaustus]

Maybe this question belongs in Blu Ray section, but is there a way to have the ps3 remember your place in a movie?

[mguiddy]

Maybe this question belongs in Blu Ray section, but is there a way to have the ps3 remember your place in a movie?
I thought with the latest firmware it did that automatically.

[pete5883]

I thought with the latest firmware it did that automatically.
It does.

[bornrunnin31]

Got a tricky situation here. Say I'm in a gamesharing group with 4 other people (total of 5), so the maximum number of ps3's that can share downloads, and I want to replace my hard drive. I use the backup utility to save everything on the old hd and restore it on this new drive .

Does this new hard drive count as a new ps3 towards the DL limit so I would be SOL on getting all those downloads back and any future downloads with that account?

I doubt anyone has run into this situation, but was hoping I could get an answer. Internet research has not provided me with a clear one.

[The Mana Knight]

Got a tricky situation here. Say I'm in a gamesharing group with 4 other people (total of 5), so the maximum number of ps3's that can share downloads, and I want to replace my hard drive. I use the backup utility to save everything on the old hd and restore it on this new drive .

Does this new hard drive count as a new ps3 towards the DL limit so I would be SOL on getting all those downloads back and any future downloads with that account?

I doubt anyone has run into this situation, but was hoping I could get an answer. Internet research has not provided me with a clear one.GAF had a long explanation comparing the DRM on each console/Steam, and I believe it was told games can be downloaded an unlimited number of times to one user account (although you are limited to 5 shares), but I gotta look it up again.

[NamPaehc]

I got off the phone with Sony just now about the odd graphical errors I've been getting (pink smoke in CoD4?!). I thought I mentioned them here...

Anyway, the guy sounded really tried and didn't really want to help me figure out what it could be. I REALLY dislike sending it in not knowing what is wrong thinking I could fix it myself, but I'm just weird. $150 for replacement whee.

I'm going to take pictures/video though in case someone figures it out and it might help people in the future. I think it is a heating problem. The image in Assassin's Creed looks like my computer when I overclocked my graphic card without the proper cooling.

[Slim Gatsby]

Look at this thread:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164438

Thanks! Now, what about the other 19? ;D

[anomynous]

I like my PS3 a lot, tried the demos of Ratchet & Clank & Uncharted. Both good

[tholly]

I got off the phone with Sony just now about the odd graphical errors I've been getting (pink smoke in CoD4?!). I thought I mentioned them here...

Anyway, the guy sounded really tried and didn't really want to help me figure out what it could be. I REALLY dislike sending it in not knowing what is wrong thinking I could fix it myself, but I'm just weird. $150 for replacement whee.

I'm going to take pictures/video though in case someone figures it out and it might help people in the future. I think it is a heating problem. The image in Assassin's Creed looks like my computer when I overclocked my graphic card without the proper cooling.



Just curious....is it happening immediately, or after some period of play time. It could be similar to your overclocking problem, ie, improper cooling. Maybe your system is just dusty and could use a good cleaning.

I'm not all that technical and no nothing about PS3 repair, but I just thought I would throw in my 2 cents.

[jdawgg76]

The Dual Shocks are here! The Dual Shocks are here!

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/863/863823p1.html

Sorry about the outburst, I just watched The Jerk for the billionth time. I thought these were supposed to be the standard $49.99?

[DestroVega]

The Dual Shocks are here! The Dual Shocks are here!

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/863/863823p1.html

Sorry about the outburst, I just watched The Jerk for the billionth time. I thought these were supposed to be the standard $49.99?

I wonder how quick I will be able to find one in stores...

[NamPaehc]

I thought these were supposed to be the standard $49.99?

No, that was just an Amazon deal. (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175218)

>>>
Just curious....is it happening immediately, or after some period of play time. It could be similar to your overclocking problem, ie, improper cooling. Maybe your system is just dusty and could use a good cleaning.

I'm not all that technical and no nothing about PS3 repair, but I just thought I would throw in my 2 cents.

No it slowly builds over time. No glitches for a few minutes, then I see more and more as time goes by.

I'm not technical either, but I think it could be dusty too.

Only thing is, it is tough to get air into it. I used a automatic air pump to dust what I could, but without opening it up I can't get at it all. I don't want to break the warranty seal even though it is out of warranty in case Sony won't take it back if I end up needing to do the replacement. Any suggestions?

[primetime]

I found my 4 port USB hub last night that has ports for old keyboards and mice. Turns out, my PS3 recognizes my old keyboard and my USB mouse through the hub. Kinda surprised me but I was pleased.

[Wolfpup]

GAF had a long explanation comparing the DRM on each console/Steam, and I believe it was told games can be downloaded an unlimited number of times to one user account (although you are limited to 5 shares), but I gotta look it up again.

Woah...does that mean to an unlimited number of consoles, like Steam (but allowing you to use content without beying online, unlike X-Box Live)? If so, that's fantastic, as it means Sony's system is just as good as Steam-arguably better, and WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than what Microsoft and Nintendo are doing.

I'll actually consider buying stuff from them if that's the case! I thought it was tied to just 5 consoles (which is why some people are stealing games by "sharing" them-it's not supposed to be a share, it's that it authorized it to up to 5 consoles...I just want it to be able to authorize to a single console, but as many times as I need for if I get a new system or it dies or whatever).

[erehwon]

What are some PS2 games that look good in HD? I was thinking about trying SOTC on my parent's HDTV. I'm going to be sticking with ps2 games for awhile since ps3 games are still pretty expensive at the moment. That and most of the ones I want aren't making an appearance till this summer or later.

[mguiddy]

Who cleaned up this thread? It isn't sticky anymore... get it, sticky == dirty. #-o:roll:

[SteveMcQ]

Who cleaned up this thread? It isn't sticky anymore... get it, sticky == dirty. #-o:roll:Linkin's doing some clean-up. He's created a thread that has links to most-viewed/used threads like this one. All you have to do is go to that one and click the appropriate thread.

[mguiddy]

Linkin's doing some clean-up. He's created a thread that has links to most-viewed/used threads like this one. All you have to do is go to that one and click the appropriate thread.
I didn't notice that new thread at the top.
Meh, I can see that making things tidier, but it makes it more difficult to see if there are new posts. Those type of "index" threads are really only useful if they are a "LOOK HERE FIRST NEWBIES" type of post. Oh well. No more discussion of that/this here. :D

[jdawgg76]

What are some PS2 games that look good in HD? I was thinking about trying SOTC on my parent's HDTV. I'm going to be sticking with ps2 games for awhile since ps3 games are still pretty expensive at the moment. That and most of the ones I want aren't making an appearance till this summer or later.I haven't tried a lot of PS2 games yet, but SotC hurt my eyes on my plasma thru HDMI. Maybe I have some settings wrong. I can say that Gran Turismo 4 and Tourist Trophy look great, especially GT4. They are both 1080i games.

BTW, Target's been clearancing PS3 games recently and if your target is slow you may find something good there.

[The Mana Knight]

What are some PS2 games that look good in HD? I was thinking about trying SOTC on my parent's HDTV. I'm going to be sticking with ps2 games for awhile since ps3 games are still pretty expensive at the moment. That and most of the ones I want aren't making an appearance till this summer or later.2D games like Atelier Iris games, Shining Tears, etc. look very sharp.

[aznguyen316]

God of War games look great.. widescreen and progressive options

[blakgpgt]

I have a problem with my PS3. I recently bought a used PS3. The guy rarely used it. He formatted the hard drive before he sold it to me. The first time I turned the PS3 on the screen would flicker. I use an HDMI cable for audio/video. I updated the firmware hoping it would fix the problem, no luck. The problem isn't with the cable or the TV, as it works fine with my 360. The screen only flickers at the "dashboard," or main menu. When I am watching a movie or playing a game the screen is fine. The guy before never used HDMI. I have searched for a solution, but have yet to find one. Has anyone dealt with this before, or do I have to call Sony?

[It'sMagneto]

I was thinking about picking up a warranty when I get a PS3 in june. I wanted to get it form Sony. How are they with repairs and how much should I expect the warranty to run me?

[The Mana Knight]

I have a problem with my PS3. I recently bought a used PS3. The guy rarely used it. He formatted the hard drive before he sold it to me. The first time I turned the PS3 on the screen would flicker. I use an HDMI cable for audio/video. I updated the firmware hoping it would fix the problem, no luck. The problem isn't with the cable or the TV, as it works fine with my 360. The screen only flickers at the "dashboard," or main menu. When I am watching a movie or playing a game the screen is fine. The guy before never used HDMI. I have searched for a solution, but have yet to find one. Has anyone dealt with this before, or do I have to call Sony?Well, the PS3 might flicker (make a cracking sound) when switching resolutions (due to handshaking issues with some TVs), but you shouldn't have it on the XMB.

I was thinking about picking up a warranty when I get a PS3 in june. I wanted to get it form Sony. How are they with repairs and how much should I expect the warranty to run me?They don't have a warranty.

[endlessPRO]

For a tv thats 13 inches Toshiba , which components do I need to buy ? ( can a ps2 cable component work for ps3 because if I does the ps3 I got doesn't work -_- if not phew )