PSP Slim Redesign

[jkam]

CNET actually did a comparison, and said the Playstation Portable came out ahead of the DS Lite in battery life.

Link? All I know is that when I play the DS it lasts for at least 10-15 hours and the PSP only lasts around 4-5. I guess it is possible for the battery itself to be better since it has to run more complicated hardware but I could care less. The thing that really matters is actual playtime. It bothers me that the new PSP will only get up to 10 hours of playtime with the old battery which will stick out of the new slim. I don't think I'll bother with the new PSP.

[dallow]

My DS lasts NO WHERE NEAR 10-15 hours.

Damn, I wish!

[Wolfpup]

Yeah, not on a decent level of brightness. Regardless, even 4 hours is fantastic. if you need more than that, you need another solution for powering it. I doubt my iPod can play video for 4 hours. My cell phone can't talk for anywhere close to 4 hours. But a PS2 level game system can last for 4? If true, that's fantastic.

I don't have a link, search for it if you want. Cnet's weekly Tivo show had it.

[Kendro]

10-15 hours is easily obtainable on the DS Lite though maybe it depends on which games are taxing? I pushed at least 13 (or 15, I forgot) hours playing Phoenix Wright on the 3rd brightness setting. There is no way in hell the PSP can last even 8 hours for games. CNET is on crack.

[jkam]

My DS lasts NO WHERE NEAR 10-15 hours.

Damn, I wish!

DS Lite sorry. Could depend on which game you are playing I guess. I regularly get 10-15 though.

Yeah, not on a decent level of brightness. Regardless, even 4 hours is fantastic. if you need more than that, you need another solution for powering it. I doubt my iPod can play video for 4 hours. My cell phone can't talk for anywhere close to 4 hours. But a PS2 level game system can last for 4? If true, that's fantastic.

I don't have a link, search for it if you want. Cnet's weekly Tivo show had it.

It's not that I feel 4 hours isn't long enough...it's just that I feel like I am constantly charging the thing. With the DS you can play for a week or so and not have to charge it. It's not that it's a huge big deal but being that the new PSP is only offering a longer battery life with the old battery that will stick out from the system it doesn't exactly improve on the existing design. It's a letdown. As for the article I searched and came up empty...but even if they said its better they must be smoking some good shit because in the real world of playtime the DS obviously gets more. Take the DS out of the equation because it doesn't even matter...I'm just upset the NEW PSP won't play longer.

[Wolfpup]

It's not that I feel 4 hours isn't long enough...it's just that I feel like I am constantly charging the thing. With the DS you can play for a week or so and not have to charge it.

You shouldn't. Lithium batteries last longest if they're kept charged.

It's not that it's a huge big deal but being that the new PSP is only offering a longer battery life with the old battery that will stick out from the system it doesn't exactly improve on the existing design. It's a letdown. As for the article I searched and came up empty...but even if they said its better they must be smoking some good shit because in the real world of playtime the DS obviously gets more. [/QUOTE]

Maybe, but they tested the Playstation portable against the DS Lite and said the PSP got longer run time. I don't think even Nintendo has ever said 10-15 hours. Unless you're playing GBA games with the brightness to minimum or something.

I was kind of surprised by the results, but then the PSP's battery is over twice as larger.

At any rate, under normal usage neither of them should ever run out. And you have to keep any lithium battery charged up regardless.

[tenzor]

can the new psp allow you to play your games on the big screen through that video output or only videos and pictures?

[RelentlessRolento]

How is that possible? I only get about 4 hours out of my PSP (currently playing Syphon Filter) whereas I can get at least 8 out of my DS (currently playing Phoenix Wright, 2nd level brightness). It's contrary to my experience since I've had my PSP since March and my DS for over a year.



I've had my PSP since launch and don't have those problems. the only thing I can tnk of that would be eating your battery are games that have long load times... heck, I played nonstop with GTA LCS when it came out and got at least 7 hours out of it.

[gunm]

Battery life wasn't really an issue for me when I owned a PSP before. It lasts through a complete movie, which is usually enough for me. I never play for more than 3-4 hours at a time, due to my schedule.

I'm looking forward to the new slim model when it comes out. The improved d-pad and additional memory for faster load times are enough for me. And there are tons of games out now and planned for the future. Can't wait to import those shmup collections from Japan...

[Thomas96]

I would love to have one of those limited edition FFVII PSPs. There's only about 77,000 coming out in Japan only. That's a big mistake on Sony's part...if the consumer is willing to buy that special version of psp... don't make it a special edition, rather very limited edition, make a couple million of them, and let it put more psp units into the market, and pay sqaure enix, let them make some money off of the transactions, because its jut like paying a marketing firm to market your product. It's not like Sony has many first party games that could be designed into the psp. As a matter of fact, more special edition psps should enter the market with popular franchises imprinted on them. Just like Nintendo will make a pokemon, DS, N64, and oh god for the day that the pokemon Wii comes out..... my point is that.. if you got something, anything that will help get more systems out of the door, then don't make it a 'limited edition' make it available everywhere, to everyone. If sony could easily sell 1 million of those Final Fantasy units in Japan and the US... what harm could a boost in sales do..

[xeno]

So yea how much is willing to spend on the FF PSP im willing to spend up to 300

[Kendro]

I would love to have one of those limited edition FFVII PSPs. There's only about 77,000 coming out in Japan only. That's a big mistake on Sony's part...if the consumer is willing to buy that special version of psp... don't make it a special edition, rather very limited edition, make a couple million of them, and let it put more psp units into the market, and pay sqaure enix, let them make some money off of the transactions, because its jut like paying a marketing firm to market your product. It's not like Sony has many first party games that could be designed into the psp. As a matter of fact, more special edition psps should enter the market with popular franchises imprinted on them. Just like Nintendo will make a pokemon, DS, N64, and oh god for the day that the pokemon Wii comes out..... my point is that.. if you got something, anything that will help get more systems out of the door, then don't make it a 'limited edition' make it available everywhere, to everyone. If sony could easily sell 1 million of those Final Fantasy units in Japan and the US... what harm could a boost in sales do..

I think they chose the number 77,777 to celebrate the "7" in Final Fantasy VII. But yeah, they probably could have instantly sold 777,777 of them easily between the US and Japan alone.

[alongx]

PSP slim = waste of time

[Chitown021]

I'm looking forward to the new PSP... I'm hoping to move my old one to pay for the new one.

[Thomas96]

I think they chose the number 77,777 to celebrate the "7" in Final Fantasy VII. But yeah, they probably could have instantly sold 777,777 of them easily between the US and Japan alone.



yeah I know.. but the goal isn't just to celebrate it's to sell units... a FFVII is a good gimmick to get people to bite on some systems.. but don't stop at 77,777, how about 700,000 units w/ FFVII artwork...

then do the same when monster hunter comes out.. 500 - 700,000 units of Monster hunter psps... there's always a new customer waiting to purchase a unit.

[AndrewCP]

So yea how much is willing to spend on the FF PSP im willing to spend up to 300

Probably $0, I'm not liking the silver PSP much (though a chrome silver would be nice). If they had them in a color I liked such as black or white, I'd probably spend no more than how much the originals cost. I also prefer the regular versions so with that being said I don't have to worry about missing out on these limited editions.

Anyway, I'm hoping to hear about some trade-in deals for the PSP Slim. I asked how much it was to trade in the old PSP at my GameStop and they told be 60 bucks. What would your guys' estimates be when they do the trade-in deal?

[RelentlessRolento]

Probably $0, I'm not liking the silver PSP much (though a chrome silver would be nice). If they had them in a color I liked such as black or white, I'd probably spend no more than how much the originals cost. I also prefer the regular versions so with that being said I don't have to worry about missing out on these limited editions.

Anyway, I'm hoping to hear about some trade-in deals for the PSP Slim. I asked how much it was to trade in the old PSP at my GameStop and they told be 60 bucks. What would your guys' estimates be when they do the trade-in deal?


They have a black one. I'm surprised at how many times people forget that sony is selling a core pack of a black slim PSP.

http://us.playstation.com/assetplace/corebundle.jpg

http://www.us.playstation.com/News/PressReleases/407

[imascrub]

ign's pic of the silver one (the one where they show the black, silver, and white psps in the same pic, if the image doesn't show the right one...) makes it look kind of gunmetal-ish. If only it were gunmetal colored though :o I like that it has the black strap holder/middle section of the system but I don't think that will carry over to the actual retail units :\

http://media.gear.ign.com/articles/804/804856/img_4713758.html

[Kendro]

I'm still getting the silver but I wish it had a smooth platinum finish instead of the "grainy sand" texture.

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/8499/silveryc2.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silveryc2.jpg)

[Thomas96]

I don't know what color I'm going to get... I wish you could just change the outer shell without voiding the warranty.

[Chitown021]

I wonder if these will be hard to find at launch like the DS lite and if all of the regular PSP accessories will work on it (car chargers, wall ac adaptors, USB charge and data cables, etc...).

[PSP_<3_PS2]

Here's the link that will break it down for everyone!

URL: http://www.pspworld.com/sony-psp/news/slim-psp-revealed-006955.php

[RelentlessRolento]

I don't know what color I'm going to get... I wish you could just change the outer shell without voiding the warranty.


on my regular I've taken the front off so many times and the warranty is still valid. It's a easy trick that dosn't require any special materials or anything... just common sense if you know where stuff is located... plus the risk is barely there.

[AndrewCP]

They have a black one. I'm surprised at how many times people forget that sony is selling a core pack of a black slim PSP.

http://us.playstation.com/assetplace/corebundle.jpg

http://www.us.playstation.com/News/PressReleases/407

I know that but I was talking about the FFVII one.

[Wolfpup]

I just wish they offered a white one...or some other color. They just have black, and silver which I like even less (and then that Darth Vader one, which I don't want).

I want a new one, but hate having to buy black again.

PSP slim = waste of time

Thank you for gracing us with your glorious insights!

[imascrub]

they will be having the white one for a limited time when the darth vader one comes out i think

[Wolfpup]

they will be having the white one for a limited time when the darth vader one comes out i think

Right, I want just a white one (blue would be cool too...) Right now I guess I'd be stuck buying another black one, which is pretty boring.

[Thomas96]

on my regular I've taken the front off so many times and the warranty is still valid. It's a easy trick that dosn't require any special materials or anything... just common sense if you know where stuff is located... plus the risk is barely there.


oh I thought you had to void the warranty to get the front off...

[RelentlessRolento]

oh I thought you had to void the warranty to get the front off...


if you do it wrong, then yeah, you'll void it.

[Wolfpup]

I guess you do void the warrenty, they just won't know you did unless you do it wrong :)

[armyjon99]

I hope the wifi will be faster just a thought.

[CouRageouS]

Was a solid date given yet? Particularly on the White Star Wars one?

[RelentlessRolento]

Was a solid date given yet? Particularly on the White Star Wars one?


September for Daxter and basic... october for star wars.

[Wolfpup]

And that's it right? Just a black one, a grey/silver one, and a Darth Vader one, right? :(

I'd get just a plain white one :(

[Radioactive_Man]

Anyone know if they fixed the fuking ghosting on the screen? That shit get's on my nerves just as much as a shitty frame rate.

If they do fix the ghosting then I'll be importing one of these babies.

[Slade555]

Anyone know if they fixed the fuking ghosting on the screen? That shit get's on my nerves just as much as a shitty frame rate.

If they do fix the ghosting then I'll be importing one of these babies.

Totally.. that was one of biggest problems with the original and no one talked about it. We haven't heard the screen is getting changed at all so it sounds like its the same ghost fest. Letdown..

[Wolfpup]

The screen's response time isn't THAT bad. Seems like roughly 25ms to me, or maybe a bit better. I do hope they improved it and increased the brightness, but I'll still take the larger size over a faster/brighter screen.

[PagingDrUgly]

Is the best deal to import a Slim from Play-asia with the $10 coupon? Thanks!

-Dr. Ugly

[Chitown021]

Will these puppies be wait-in-line rare like the original was when it launched?

[Rocko]

Will these puppies be wait-in-line rare like the original was when it launched?

I'd think not.

[anarchyburger]

i wonder if this will be worth the 200 bones, what do you guys think?

will this make the psp as successful as the ds lite?

[Chitown021]

I'm in for one. I sold my PSP Phat to save up the cash for it.

[Rei no Otaku]

I'm hoping for a trade-in deal at GS like they did when the DS lite came out.

[bobo2k4]

Stupid question....I plan on getting this to play FFT and read that the battery life on the psp isn't too great. Will I be able to play the thing with the AC adaptor hooked up to an outlet without using the battery?

[Rocko]

i wonder if this will be worth the 200 bones, what do you guys think?

will this make the psp as successful as the ds lite?

The PSP? No, it's worth $170, the MSRP. If you mean the Daxter bundle, then yes, it's worth $200. It's definitely a value at $200.

But, no, a redesign (not on par with the DS-DS Lite redesign, even) won't magically make the PSP more popular than the DS.

[Foo228]

Was a solid date given yet? Particularly on the White Star Wars one?

Sept. 10th for the Daxter bundle, Oct. 11th for the Start Wars one, and I think the plain black one just sells when it sells ;)

[Nibi]

I am trying really hard to justify a PSP purchase, but with the insane amount of top tier games coming out across all platforms, it may just have to wait longer. My backlog is nuts right now and I feel guilty when I see al the preorders I have already.

[RelentlessRolento]

I'm hoping for a trade-in deal at GS like they did when the DS lite came out.


same here. would be real nice if so.

[Rei no Otaku]

Stupid question....I plan on getting this to play FFT and read that the battery life on the psp isn't too great. Will I be able to play the thing with the AC adaptor hooked up to an outlet without using the battery?
Yes, you can play it while plugged in and it won't use the battery. Also people exaggerate about the battery life.

[Chitown021]

Yes, you can play it while plugged in and it won't use the battery. Also people exaggerate about the battery life.



Well I think the problem is people are used to the battery life of the GBA and DS. The PSP battery life is reasonable for the power and functionality the system offers. In comparison however to the Nintendo portables it sucks.

[Wolfpup]

i wonder if this will be worth the 200 bones, what do you guys think?

The old one's easily worth that. :lol: Of course it's worth $200 for a 1GB Memory Stick and Daxter along with the system!

Stupid question....I plan on getting this to play FFT and read that the battery life on the psp isn't too great. Will I be able to play the thing with the AC adaptor hooked up to an outlet without using the battery?


Okay, in the first place, the battery life thing is pretty much a fanboi claim. A CNet show tested it against the DS Lite and said the original Playstation Portable wins in battery life. And I've never had either run out. But like all lithium batteries, you want to keep it charged up as much as possible. If you're using it so much it can actually run down, then you should get some external power solution or something (or a second battery, or whatever).

It can be used plugged in to an outlet, and also it can be used without a battery, which the DS can't.

same here. would be real nice if so.

Yeah, I was hoping for that but decided to just sell it now while it's probably worth more. I hope I can get one at launch though, since it's kind of painful being without it :(

[elwood731]

I can't imagine the PSP 2/Slim/Etc. will be hard to get at launch, or at least shortly thereafter. This isn't even a radical redesign like the DS Lite was. After a week or so you may see shortages in store, but then they should be receiving new shipments by then.

[Chris in Cali]

Has Sony updated the video formats the PSP supports? If it supported avi or divx I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

[RelentlessRolento]

Has Sony updated the video formats the PSP supports? If it supported avi or divx I'd buy it in a heartbeat.


sadly no, but at least PSP video 9 always does on outstanding job converting.

[naes]

Oh, wow. I can't believe how much failure there is in two sentences.
Okay, in the first place, the battery life thing is pretty much a fanboi claim. A CNet show tested it against the DS Lite and said the original Playstation Portable wins in battery life.

[RelentlessRolento]

Oh, wow. I can't believe how much failure there is in two sentences.


I hate to beat the fanboy framing thing, but there's alot of fanboyism in even responding to that quote. heck, you'll probably quot me in the realm of fanboyism.

[zewone]

No way in hell the PSP comes close to being as good at battery consumption as the DS lite. If you leave the PSP unplugged for two days it won't turn on. While on the other hand, I was playing my DS on an airplane trip until the light turned red (meaning it needed to be charged), I put it on standby and threw it in my backpack. I remember two weeks later that I still needed to save it, low and behold when I opened it I was still at the same spot when I standbyed and was able to save.

[Rocko]

Okay, in the first place, the battery life thing is pretty much a fanboi claim. A CNet show tested it against the DS Lite and said the original Playstation Portable wins in battery life.

Link to documentation or some sort of article? There's no way a PSP will last longer than a DS Lite.

Any idea if I can preorder the Daxter bundle at Gamestop? I think I might do that if possible.

[CouRageouS]

:rofl: PSP lasting longer than a DSL?! I'm pretty sure mine's on right now. I put that bad boy in standby more often than I can remember. Even with a red light, if you turn the sound down you can give it another 30 mins to an hour before it flat out turns off.

Chris in Cali has a good point about divx. Has anyone in the homebrew scene tried doing so? I'm already sold is for the output to a TV since my other place has none of my systems, so divx playback would be amazing.

[Wolfpup]

Oh, wow. I can't believe how much failure there is in two sentences.

Huh? What does this even mean? If you don't like Cnet, say so.

[Wolfpup]

No way in hell the PSP comes close to being as good at battery consumption as the DS lite. If you leave the PSP unplugged for two days it won't turn on.

You either have a defective unit, or are lying.


Link to documentation or some sort of article? There's no way a PSP will last longer than a DS Lite.

Regardless, that's what their tests showed. As I've said, it was on one of their shows. I saw it on their Tivo show originally.

Regardless the PSP's battery life is fine. Claims to the contrary are lies perpetrated by pathetic fanbois. If you really need longer battery life, get another power source.

[crunchewy]

I'm a happy DS user, but one thing I really wish the DS had, and that the PSP does, is an analog stick. The new design PSP does in fact have me even more interested. No, it's not revolutionary, but it does seem like an even better system than it was. Too bad I don't have $250+ to blow on it (250+, of course, as it's useless without some games!) Some day, though.

[Wolfpup]

So far I haven’t found the touch screen useful. I think Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2 is the only game I’ve played that actually is sort of neat with it, and is a full game. I’d gladly trade it for an analog stick. (I even hate it for strategy games, where I thought it might be kind of useful.)

Of course I’d like two sticks on the PSP, but then no other portable has any, so it’s not like I can really complain 

[PhoenixT]

You either have a defective unit, or are lying.




Regardless, that's what their tests showed. As I've said, it was on one of their shows. I saw it on their Tivo show originally.

Regardless the PSP's battery life is fine. Claims to the contrary are lies perpetrated by pathetic fanbois. If you really need longer battery life, get another power source.

Uhh huh, I can use my PSP for audio files for like 6 hrs I can use it for games for 3 or 4 hrs. I can use my DS lite for around 8 hrs of intensive gaming "with" audio before the thing dies. Tell me again how the PSP battery life is SOOOOO much better again I need another laugh.

Seriously I own both I've used both extensively and they don't REMOTELY compare in battery power. In fact if I didn't keep my DS on the brightest lighting setting I could I likely could get even "more" life out of it. I might could improve my PSP in a similar manner but its screen is now where near is bright as a DS lite and it wouldnt be as tolerable.

[naes]

I admit I am a DS fanboy, but I do have a PSP and play it occasionally.


There's no way that the PSP has longer battery life than the DS Lite.
I hate to beat the fanboy framing thing, but there's alot of fanboyism in even responding to that quote. heck, you'll probably quot me in the realm of fanboyism.

[bob330i]

Uhh huh, I can use my PSP for audio files for like 6 hrs I can use it for games for 3 or 4 hrs. I can use my DS lite for around 8 hrs of intensive gaming "with" audio before the thing dies. Tell me again how the PSP battery life is SOOOOO much better again I need another laugh.

Seriously I own both I've used both extensively and they don't REMOTELY compare in battery power. In fact if I didn't keep my DS on the brightest lighting setting I could I likely could get even "more" life out of it. I might could improve my PSP in a similar manner but its screen is now where near is bright as a DS lite and it wouldnt be as tolerable.

Ditto this. I normally let these things go but WP seems to be a bit overzealous on PSP > DS battery life. I don't see how the PSP can outlast a DS in battery capacity. I have both and it's clear that my DS outlasts my PSP by a 2:1 margin on average.

I'd guess it's probably only a function of having the comparision with my DS. If I had a PSP only, I'd probably be ok with the 3-4 hr battery life. But for me, right now, it's somewhat annoying. I do want longer battery life.

Just let it go WP. I believe the vast majority here who have both systems have indicated battery life goes to the DS regardless of what CNET says. It would be interesting to see what they did to get those results, but apparently, it can't be verified......:applause:

[Wolfpup]

Uhh huh, I can use my PSP for audio files for like 6 hrs I can use it for games for 3 or 4 hrs. I can use my DS lite for around 8 hrs of intensive gaming "with" audio before the thing dies. Tell me again how the PSP battery life is SOOOOO much better again I need another laugh.

Why are you telling me this? Complain to Cnet if you have a problem.

[jer7583]

No, we'll complain to you because you made the statement and you have yet to provide this cnet article.

Even with the PSP at lowest brightness and no sound, running off the memory stick, PSP could only hope to equal the DS Lite longevity at full brightness.

Then again, I run mine at 333, and I mostly play games off the memory stick.

[rickonker]

No, we'll complain to you because you made the statement and you have yet to provide this cnet article.

Even with the PSP at lowest brightness and no sound, running off the memory stick, PSP could only hope to equal the DS Lite longevity at full brightness.

Then again, I run mine at 333, and I mostly play games off the memory stick.
I think he said earlier it was on some cnet video show. Understandably, nobody wants to bother finding it.

[PhoenixT]

he stated he had a reliable article or news video saying the PSP battery life had been tested and was better than the DS why should "we" look it up when he's the one saying he has facts to back up his claim?

[RelentlessRolento]

decent overview video of the slim... kinda has one spot where you get an idea of how the back of the system was slimmed and also some of the video out stuff:

http://good-times.webshots.com/video/3055374730101888074btnsSu


still want one badly... will push me more to get an HDTV. I don't care too much for the TV out since it's the d-pad and buttons as well as load times that make me want to change.

[zewone]

You either have a defective unit, or are lying.
Neither. Why I would I lie about system's battery life?

Either you have no idea what you're talking about, or you are lying.

[Wolfpup]

Neither. Why I would I lie about system's battery life?

Either you have no idea what you're talking about, or you are lying.

Well it's either one or the other. If you're not lying, then it's option A. Your PSP is defective.

[zewone]

:roll: Well it's either one or the other. If you're not lying, then it's option A. Your PSP is defective.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Then everyone else's PSP must be defective as well. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Like I said, it's either one or the other. You don't know what you're talking about or you're lying.

[Wolfpup]

he stated he had a reliable article or news video saying the PSP battery life had been tested and was better than the DS why should "we" look it up when he's the one saying he has facts to back up his claim?

If you're interested, look it up. Cnet.com. I didn't watch it on the web.

What they said surprised me, and as far as I'm concerned battery life shouldn't be an issue on either system for most users. If it is, you buy a second battery, or a charger, or whatever.

Both systems should be kept fully charged regardless.

[RelentlessRolento]

personal experience is best. DS wins in battery life, but it makes more sense since it's all cart, and no moving parts alongside no loading really. It's about the same I say in terms of power. More power comes at a cost. though, I hate comparing so um... fuck it.

if you like the battery life, good. if you don't, good.

[crazytalkx]

Why are you telling me this? Complain to Cnet if you have a problem.

Give the link, fanboy

[naes]

I just found what he was talking about, I think.

DS Lite gets 5 hours on max settings
PSP gets 5.5 on max settings


I don't buy it. I get waaaayyyy more time with my DS Lite than 5 hours.

[RelentlessRolento]

stop comparing. just because it's portable dosn't mean they're both the same thus puttinf time comparisons in play. It's like having a battery opperated toaster compared to a lithium fridge.

[apokalipze2]

If you're interested, look it up. Cnet.com. I didn't watch it on the web.

What they said surprised me, and as far as I'm concerned battery life shouldn't be an issue on either system for most users. If it is, you buy a second battery, or a charger, or whatever.

Both systems should be kept fully charged regardless.Post the link or shut the fuck up 8-)

[bob330i]

decent overview video of the slim... kinda has one spot where you get an idea of how the back of the system was slimmed and also some of the video out stuff:

http://good-times.webshots.com/video/3055374730101888074btnsSu

still want one badly... will push me more to get an HDTV. I don't care too much for the TV out since it's the d-pad and buttons as well as load times that make me want to change.

I was wondering what the movies and games would look like on TV (framing-wise, couldn't tell resolution due to bad resolution of camera or compression issues). Looks good but the guy is a doofus:

- Letterbox? Really? That's a window box shown during the MLB sample.
- Increased load times? Just what I was looking for.

Sign me up! :lol:

Anyhow, I have a deposit down on the Vader version. Not sure what I'm going to do with my original one. Guess we'll see if there will be any trade in deals.

[Rocko]

Regardless, that's what their tests showed.

Regardless, eh? I really wish I was allowed to make bullshit statements, then, when questioned, say "Regardless, I'm correct."

So far I haven’t found the touch screen useful.

You're playing the wrong games.

I think the best part about this is that you critisize people for being PSP fanboys, yet refuse to admit that the PSP has less battery life than the DS due to some random TV show you saw while almsot everyone here says you're incorrect. Sweet ironing.

[MICHAE2414]

decent overview video of the slim... kinda has one spot where you get an idea of how the back of the system was slimmed and also some of the video out stuff:

http://good-times.webshots.com/video/3055374730101888074btnsSu


still want one badly... will push me more to get an HDTV. I don't care too much for the TV out since it's the d-pad and buttons as well as load times that make me want to change.
Yeah, saw this video just now from the Kotaku article.

The new UMD tray looks like it holds the disc a little less securely as it gets put in/out. It looked like the UMD kinda fell out when he took out the Jet Li movie.

I couldn't tell from the video if they scooted the face buttons a tiny bit more to the right with the new PSP slim, like all the press release screenshots from E3 seemed to show (less space between the right edge and the circle button). Maybe it was just a lighting thing from those screens, I guess?

While I liked how the video out was for movies and such (I forgot the PSP supports 720x480 video off the memory stick, same as a UMD movie), games in a fixed window size on the screen is a little disheartening, though understandable if a game doesn't scale well from 480x272 to 1920x1080 or something. Really, though, I was hoping the back of the PSP was still somewhat matte in texture and better suited for the bigger battery for longer life.

Quote straight from the video on the battery bay and PSP's back: "It's a battery kit, so basically we include the earlier PSP-1000 battery, included with a battery cover because if you notice here, the back of the PSP has changed; it's an enamel finish rather than matte, and it's more streamlined, more sleek, where the PSP-1000 had the bubble here, you notice? Um, so we have to emulate it with the battery kit; so that'll be sold separately this fall."

I really like the "bubble" of my PSP, though; it gives me a slightly better grip of it and more of a console controller feel/ Glossy, fingerprint-filled PSP that could be easier to slip off = :-(

But, yeah, it'd be nice to get one for the raised D-pad and video out alone. Maybe EB/GS will do an old PSP trade-in deal for it?

[Rocko]

A lot of sold seperately stuff. I'll be fine with 4 hours of battery with the Slim battery. I don't want to buy a new battery in addition to the PSP.

[Jesus_S_Preston]

I just have to say---the bundle they're offering for the slim is outstanding. (The Daxter/Ice Silver one).

[jling84]

The bundle Japan is offering (FF7) is better =(

I want that one, but it's listed at almost 500 bucks on Yes-Asia!!! That's insane!

[RelentlessRolento]

if you like the bubble of the first (I did as well) the obvious choice would be to get a bigger battery then. It better come with a cover for both sides to make it even...

also anyone hear if playgear pocket slim will ever be comming... it's a manditory for me.

[Kendro]

Looks like the Slim isn't just lighter and thinner but is also a shade smaller in both length and width.

http://pspupdates.qj.net/PSP-before-and-after-Famitsu-compares-PSP-Slim-to-old-PSP/pg/49/aid/99197

http://img.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/99197/PSP%20old%20and%20new_qjpreviewth.jpg

[RelentlessRolento]

hmm interesting.

[Rocko]

I'll consider buying the bigger battery if it doesn't look really odd or out of place.

[Chitown021]

I'll consider buying the bigger battery if it doesn't look really odd or out of place.

Damn, I assumed it would just look out of place so I sold my extra PSP battery with my PSP Phat.

[Rocko]

To be honest, I never even knew the original PSP had a 'bump'. If the old battery on the Slim PSP has such a subtle bump, I'd love the extra battery life. Guess I'll just have to wait until they release the battery pack for it.

[Foo228]

decent overview video of the slim... kinda has one spot where you get an idea of how the back of the system was slimmed and also some of the video out stuff:

http://good-times.webshots.com/video/3055374730101888074btnsSu


still want one badly... will push me more to get an HDTV. I don't care too much for the TV out since it's the d-pad and buttons as well as load times that make me want to change.

watching and all but is the name "PSP 2000" just a codename?

I was hoping it would be called PSP Plus (even though it lesser in some areas - just thought it sounded sweet)

[RelentlessRolento]

it's a model number/codename...

I think it's called PSP+ or PSP+P...

[Halo05]

I think I'm the only one psyched for the Star Wars PSP. I keep trying to preorder it but every week EBstop shoots me down. Jerks.

[Chitown021]

I think I'm the only one psyched for the Star Wars PSP. I keep trying to preorder it but every week EBstop shoots me down. Jerks.


I'm done with GS/EB preorders after getting Fucked by them on the PS3.

[edison]

I think I'm the only one psyched for the Star Wars PSP. I keep trying to preorder it but every week EBstop shoots me down. Jerks.


Nope, my boss at work wants one bad, but like you said everytime he checks EB they say it's not in the system yet. They just added the new DS lite bundle about 2 weeks ago and it comes out this month, so roughly about a month before. Everything I've heard says the SW edition won't hit until October so I figure the pre-order is still a couple weeks/month away.

[Rocko]

I think I'm the only one psyched for the Star Wars PSP. I keep trying to preorder it but every week EBstop shoots me down. Jerks.

I tried preordering the Daxter bundle two days ago and they said it wasn't in the system yet.

[The Mana Knight]

I watched the video and it makes me want this PSP more.

[Wolfpup]

Regarding that video, I am disappointed that it doesn't still have the "grips" on it like the original, and I wish games were closer to full screen, but it still looks like it does a good job. Maybe it would require more hardware to scale games up further.

Regardless, eh? I really wish I was allowed to make bullshit statements, then, when questioned, say "Regardless, I'm correct."

Random insults. Cute. I expect no more from this site.

That is what they said.

You're playing the wrong games.

Oh really? And what games would those be that are "correct"?

I think the best part about this is that you critisize people for being PSP fanboys, yet refuse to admit that the PSP has less battery life than the DS due to some random TV show you saw while almsot everyone here says you're incorrect. Sweet ironing.

Actually I never said anything other than the battery life on both is fine. But do continue making stuff up.

[Rocko]

Insults? I just think it's funny that your rebuttal is "Regardless, I'm right" like that should be the end of the argument.

This is really a lost cause, though, so I'm just going to stop.

[Wolfpup]

Insults? I just think it's funny that your rebuttal is "Regardless, I'm right" like that should be the end of the argument.

This is really a lost cause, though, so I'm just going to stop.

That was never my rebuttal. I've said the same thing from the first post about this to the last. You keep putting words in my mouth.

[Rocko]

When asked about documentation-

Regardless, that's what their tests showed.
I mean, shit, I saw this article where the PSP asplodes after use! I mean, I'm not sure where the article is, but that's what the show said, and if you PSP doesn't asplode either you're lying, or it's defective. So there!

[PhoenixT]

anyone know if their going to make the backlight any better in this revision because as is this things almost unplayable outside for me even when its overcast.

[Wolfpup]

I told you where you can see it if you want to.

[Wolfpup]

anyone know if their going to make the backlight any better in this revision because as is this things almost unplayable outside for me even when its overcast.

I haven't heard anyone say anything about that. IMO the last really usable system outside was the first version of the Gameboy Advance SP.

You really need a reflective screen to do that, rather than transflective that all the newer systems are (and the newer GBA-SPs).

[PhoenixT]

actually my DS lite is very useable outside its why its currently my favorite handheld system since I do most of my portable gaming outside :/. I was hoping the PSP would get that fixed in this revision if it dosent I'll likely stick with my fat since I"ve modded it so the DPad works fine and my buttons don't bother me.

[primetime]

I haven't heard anyone say anything about that. IMO the last really usable system outside was the first version of the Gameboy Advance SP.

You really need a reflective screen to do that, rather than transflective that all the newer systems are (and the newer GBA-SPs).

That's a common complaint with the PSP. I think the best remedy is to use the sun guard on the PGP, but I'm not sure.

[Wolfpup]

actually my DS lite is very useable outside its why its currently my favorite handheld system since I do most of my portable gaming outside :/. I was hoping the PSP would get that fixed in this revision if it dosent I'll likely stick with my fat since I"ve modded it so the DPad works fine and my buttons don't bother me.

Hmm, personally I don't like either outside. I really think the GBA-SP is the last useable system outside in bright sunlight. The DS and Playstation you have to play in shade just to see them.

[Rocko]

Hmm, personally I don't like either outside. I really think the GBA-SP is the last useable system outside in bright sunlight. The DS and Playstation you have to play in shade just to see them.

Have you played the DS Lite outside, or the fat? The DS Lite definitely improves over the fat in terms of outside playability.

[Wolfpup]

Have you played the DS Lite outside, or the fat? The DS Lite definitely improves over the fat in terms of outside playability.

I didn't find that to be the case. None of the transflective screens seem particularly usable to me. Unusable in direct sunlight, poor in shade.

[MICHAE2414]

Thing is, the new PSP is glossy all over, so not only would the screen be unusable but the whole system (front and back) would shimmer in direct sunlight for all the wrong reasons. :-(

At least with the current PSP, the Playgear Pocket's top half can act as a shield like primetime said, but for me it's still difficult even with the 4th (max. via AC adaptor/OE custom firmware) brightness setting.

[CouRageouS]

I think I'm the only one psyched for the Star Wars PSP. I keep trying to preorder it but every week EBstop shoots me down. Jerks.
I want one! But not for Star Wars, cause its white. Should I preorder too? I don't think demand will be high or anything, but I do have some credit to burn.

[Wolfpup]

I'd preorder if they let you. You never know how these things are going to go, and demand will probably be higher 'cause people randomly buy more game stuff at the end of the year. Worst case you tie up some of your credit with them.

I just wish there was a plain white one. Black's boring, and grey/silver isn't my thing.

[Phorty Ounce]

I'd preorder if they let you. You never know how these things are going to go, and demand will probably be higher 'cause people randomly buy more game stuff at the end of the year. Worst case you tie up some of your credit with them.

I just wish there was a plain white one. Black's boring, and grey/silver isn't my thing.

Dirt and grime > white PSP.

[Wolfpup]

Dirt and grime > white PSP.

I would think that, but my white DS Lite is just fine. I wants a white PSP! (Or blue, or some other color than black or silver :) )

[Rocko]

I'm more or less forced to get the silver, since I want the Daxter bundle. But my DS Lite is black, so I'm up for a change.

[Wolfpup]

Yeah, the Daxter bundle seems like a great deal. Maybe I'll like the color better when I see it in person.

I wish they were less conservative in the U.S. Seems like Japan and Europe both get more, and more interesting colors!

[Rocko]

I've seen some pics that make the silver seem dull, and others that make it seem very glossy and shiny. Not sure which I like more. But at that price I can't not buy the Daxter bundle, since I'd end up buying a memory stick and Daxter anyway.

[Chitown021]

Has anyone started pre-orders on the slim or has there been a solid launch date yet? I've got the dough stashed from selling my phat waiting for the release.

[Jesus_S_Preston]

Anyone know how accruate CAGWiki is for the PSP trade-in values? It has the PSP for 80 and 1 gig stick for 20; if true, with the Edge card, I'll only have to pay 90 bucks for the Daxter pack.

[rickonker]

Has anyone started pre-orders on the slim or has there been a solid launch date yet? I've got the dough stashed from selling my phat waiting for the release.
I think the launch is Sept. 10th.

I know the Daxter bundle is a pretty good deal but I think the 1 gig memory stick is too small. I'd rather just buy a bigger one separately.

[rickonker]

Anyone know how accruate CAGWiki is for the PSP trade-in values? It has the PSP for 80 and 1 gig stick for 20; if true, with the Edge card, I'll only have to pay 90 bucks for the Daxter pack.
The PSP trade-in is definitely lower than 80.

[Rocko]

Has anyone started pre-orders on the slim or has there been a solid launch date yet? I've got the dough stashed from selling my phat waiting for the release.

As was already said, the Daxter bundle (and I believe the stand-alone black as well, but not sure) is September 10. I believe the Star Wars white edition is sometime in October.

Gamestop wasn't accepting preorder earlier last week. I'll probably give them a call Friday to see if they're taking preorders yet, as I have $250 in GS credit to burn.

[lilboo]

This comes out within a month--why don't any retail websites have ANY info on it?! You'd think they get people all hype and excited to buy one...

[RelentlessRolento]

This comes out within a month--why don't any retail websites have ANY info on it?! You'd think they get people all hype and excited to buy one...


probably so they can sell out the old models. that's my only guess.

[CouRageouS]

Anyone see anything about a PSP2000 Playgear Pocket? I went on Logitech's website to try and find a contact email to inquire, but it was all phone numbers and addresses.

[RelentlessRolento]

Anyone see anything about a PSP2000 Playgear Pocket? I went on Logitech's website to try and find a contact email to inquire, but it was all phone numbers and addresses.


I am wanting to know the same. I need a case for it when it hits the street, and a playgear would be my first choice.

[primetime]

I'm sure Logitech would be more than willing to cash in on the slim.

[gunm]

Import pre-orders available at NCSX:

http://mgrsti3030s.seamlesstech.biz/templates/frmTemplateS.asp?CatalogID=13916&SearchYN=N&subFolderID=197

Me, I'm just gonna wait for the Daxter Bundle and pre-order @ GS w/my credits.

[AnotherStereotype]

Looks like preorders are now available on Amazon.com too.

Daxter Bundle (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-PSP-Daxter-Entertainment-Pack/dp/B000U9TXJ0/ref=sr_1_5/105-9004860-7397252?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1186815320&sr=1-5)

PSP-2000 Core Pack (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Playstation-2000-System-Black/dp/B000UA0LXQ/ref=sr_1_6/105-9004860-7397252?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1186815320&sr=1-6)

[gunm]

Cool. Maybe GS will be taking pre-orders soon, too. I'll confirm tomorrow or Sunday when I go trade some Wii games with that coupon extension.

[killthebunnies]

I always wanted a PSP but never got around to saving up and buying one. I'll be watching the prices carefully.

[Chitown021]

Looks like preorders are now available on Amazon.com too.

Daxter Bundle (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-PSP-Daxter-Entertainment-Pack/dp/B000U9TXJ0/ref=sr_1_5/105-9004860-7397252?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1186815320&sr=1-5)

PSP-2000 Core Pack (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Playstation-2000-System-Black/dp/B000UA0LXQ/ref=sr_1_6/105-9004860-7397252?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1186815320&sr=1-6)


Sweet! No tax & free shipping!

[Foo228]

Sweet! No tax & free shipping!

but not that good of a return policy compared to sams or costco...:-k

edit: mess up on the header lol

[Rocko]

I called Gamestop yesterday and they weren't taking preorders yet. I wish they would, as I have credit to burn.

Still no pages for it on the GS website that I can see.

[leehom]

I'll wait till a local shop has preorders. Rocko, do you use the same screen name on fit freaks?

[leehom]

Toys R Us has this on preorder now. http://www.toysrus.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=2268867&cp=2255974.2259869.2268827

[gunm]

I'm sure GS will be doing pre-orders very shortly, then. I do have some credit to burn as well and want that Daxter pack...

[Cao Cao]

Don't know if this in-depth preview from Famitsu (http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/08/08/103,1186541439,76465,0,0.html) has been posted in the topic already, but it's worth a look. It compares the two models, and even looks at the TV tuner accessory that's being released in Japan.

-Official Name/Model #: PSP-2000
-On the box (Japanese version only?): Slim & Lite PSP

[daroga]

I won't lie, this is tempting. Once they crack it, I might be on it.

Has the screen quality been upped on these or are they the same as the normal PSPs? That's a far bigger selling point for me for these handheld hardware refreshes than most formfactor changes.

[Sanosuke Sagara]

Does anyone know if the silver on the psp in the bundle will be paint that'll rub off or is the plastic itself silver?

[gunm]

Has the screen quality been upped on these or are they the same as the normal PSPs? That's a far bigger selling point for me for these handheld hardware refreshes than most formfactor changes.

As far as I know, it's the same screen. But the original screen was excellent as it was IMO, so it wasn't one of the items that really needed much if any improvement.

[Kendro]

Does anyone know if the silver on the psp in the bundle will be paint that'll rub off or is the plastic itself silver?

The plastic isn't silver, it is painted but I'd say there is a 99.9% chance that the silver won't rub off since it is protected with that glossy coating. That's the one great thing about the gloss, it protects the finish. On the black it is a fingerprint machine but on silver none should show up (going by my silver Micro).

[TLR]

As far as I know, it's the same screen. But the original screen was excellent as it was IMO, so it wasn't one of the items that really needed much if any improvement.
I think he's emphasizing moreso on whether or not it will have the ghosting.

It's very likely that the ghosting will still be there, but out of the 57 PSP games I own, it's not really bothersome in anything but GTA(which is my least played PSP game anyway), so I won't mind too much.

[RelentlessRolento]

ghosting probably wont be a problem when playing on a TV though...

[gunm]

Meh, I never had a problem with the display.

[FurryCurry]

Meh, I never had a problem with the display.

You didn't play the right games. Go play Megaman Powered Up and you WILL see the ghosting.

[The Mana Knight]

You didn't play the right games. Go play Megaman Powered Up and you WILL see the ghosting.I have Mega Man Powered Up and never saw any ghosting. I just think people need to get their eyes examined. ;) :P

[Wolfpup]

Anyone know how accruate CAGWiki is for the PSP trade-in values? It has the PSP for 80 and 1 gig stick for 20; if true, with the Edge card, I'll only have to pay 90 bucks for the Daxter pack.


Just look at the date for the game/system you're interested in. The more recent it is, the more likely it is to be accurate.

In the case of the PSP, I realized I hadn't updated it when I sold mine. It's updated now, and as of July 27th, they give you $60 (the $80 figure was from a year ago).

but not that good of a return policy compared to sams or costco...:-k

edit: mess up on the header lol

If it's defective out of the box I'm sure they'll take it back-and otherwise, why do you need a return policy on it beyond that?

You didn't play the right games. Go play Megaman Powered Up and you WILL see the ghosting.

It's got ghosting, and I'd like a faster screen, but it's never lessoned my enjoyment of games. I'm kind of surprised they haven't dropped a faster screen in there yet-but it's probably one of the most expensive components in it, and they're trying to compete on price with the much cheaper to produce DS.

[The Mana Knight]

I'm very tempted to make a preorder on the Daxter bundle. I might just wait until release though.

[RelentlessRolento]

what's taking EB so long? They want to probably do it last minute do to moving out the old models so that nobody holds and and waits. They don't want a large inventory of old models to have to sell over again.

[io]

I have Mega Man Powered Up and never saw any ghosting. I just think people need to get their eyes examined. ;) :P

...says the kid with Sony blinders on :lol:

I'm still tempted to get the Star Wars bundle, but only if Gamecrazy gets it so I can burn cheap credit on it. No way I pay over $100 of real money for (another) PSP. Plus then I'll have to decide what to do with my currently unused fat PSP.

[RelentlessRolento]

...says the kid with Sony blinders on :lol:

I'm still tempted to get the Star Wars bundle, but only if Gamecrazy gets it so I can burn cheap credit on it. No way I pay over $100 of real money for (another) PSP. Plus then I'll have to decide what to do with my currently unused fat PSP.

sell your current PSP or trade it in. It should net you enough to roughly pay under $100 for the new psp.

[Rocko]

Oh Gamestop, why must you deny me a preorder when I have so much credit. :[

I have ten PSP games already, so I think I'll cry if I don't get one of these when they come out. :lol:

[leehom]

Oh Gamestop, why must you deny me a preorder when I have so much credit. :[

I have ten PSP games already, so I think I'll cry if I don't get one of these when they come out. :lol:

Damn...just like me!!! Actually I currently have six and three more on the way. WHat games do you have?

[Rocko]

Yeah, I've got 8 and two in the mail. I have Wipeout, the 2 Lumines, Virtua Tennis, Gitaroo Man, the 2 Megamans, Katamari, Tekken DR, and Exit.

[leehom]

I have two copies of Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth (one as a collectors), Exit, Hot Shots Golf, Initial D, Monster Hunter Freedom and PQ. Waiting on Jeanne D Arc and Monster Hunter Freedom 2. I want to get Loco Roco, PQ2 and Crush but I'm waiting for a price drop. Might buy Megaman if I can find them for under $10.

I hope SE ports Vagrant Story to the PSP. One of my all time favorite rpg's. Would it be possible to play home brew on the new PSP's? It would be awesome if we could play the old school SNES, Genesis, TG16, NES, SMS games w/o having to hack the firmware.

[PhoenixT]

...says the kid with Sony blinders on :lol:

I'm still tempted to get the Star Wars bundle, but only if Gamecrazy gets it so I can burn cheap credit on it. No way I pay over $100 of real money for (another) PSP. Plus then I'll have to decide what to do with my currently unused fat PSP.

Ummm I'm not one to agree with mana knight often but I played the crap out of megaman powered up and never saw any ghosting either so maybe you got a bad unit? Oh by the way my fiancee just picked up a new PSP recently and the Dpad and buttons are fixed on the newer revisions on the handheld so its not just the slim that has better buttons but the current revision of the fat as well. I was able to even pull off zangeifs 360 pile driver with the dpad not modified last night :).

[Wolfpup]

I didn't have an issue with my pad or buttons on my launch Playstation Portable.

Though I wouldn't be able to do Zangief's pile driver regardless, since I can barley do it if I'm trying in practice mode :D

[PhoenixT]

I didn't have an issue with my pad or buttons on my launch Playstation Portable.

Though I wouldn't be able to do Zangief's pile driver regardless, since I can barley do it if I'm trying in practice mode :D

heh I was able to get it about 50% of the time in practice last night which was an improvement for me since before then it was 0%. Now if I could just get a few more good rpgs like brave story on the thing it would do more than play MP3's most the time -_-.

*makes note to pick up ratchet and clank and metal gear portable ops*

[FurryCurry]

I have Mega Man Powered Up and never saw any ghosting. I just think people need to get their eyes examined. ;) :P

:-/

Anyway. So the trade in value is $60? I better get my old one sold off to my local comic book shop for $75 in cash! Woot Woot!

[io]

Ummm I'm not one to agree with mana knight often but I played the crap out of megaman powered up and never saw any ghosting either so maybe you got a bad unit?

WTF? I never said a word about ghosting. I don't play my PSP enough to notice whether there is ghosting or not :lol:. I was just commenting on Mana Knight saying people needed their eyes examined when he only has eyes for Sony products ;).

[MarkMan]

Got to mess with the PSP slim for awhile last week... it feels REALLY nice...

[dallow]

Got to mess with the PSP slim for awhile last week... it feels REALLY nice...Sweet, I hope they replace demo units with the slim.

I have to test it out first.
I want a colored one from Japan.

[Halo05]

Oh hai! The FF VII one! Preorder from NCSX!

http://www.ncsx.com/2007/081307/ncs0813u.htm

Wow is that pricy. If I was a FF VII fan I'd be tempted but I'd much rather have any of the US-bound ones at less than half the price.

[gunm]

I wonder what PA's price is going to be? They haven't yet opened pre-orders there yet.

[Wolfpup]

Oh hai! The FF VII one! Preorder from NCSX!

http://www.ncsx.com/2007/081307/ncs0813u.htm

Wow is that pricy. If I was a FF VII fan I'd be tempted but I'd much rather have any of the US-bound ones at less than half the price.

Dang, that is cool. Why on Earth don't they sell that here? That looks so much cooler than any of the ones we're getting...but what else is new.

At least give us a white one! I guess I'm stuck buying black, again. BOOOOORING! And if I do cave and get black, they'd better not release a better color later.

[Serpentor]

i want the FF version too, but sigh...

i'm leaning toward the Dexter bundle, icy silver, nice...

[TLR]

Hmm... I could get the FFVII one if I add in some $$$ from my next paycheck...

But I could just as easily use that to close the gap keeping me from owning every last RPG released on PSP.

[gunm]

I was talking to one of the guys at my local GS and he was saying that his was one of the last stores (if not the last) on Oahu to have any (new) PSPs left in stock. Really sounds like GS is just trying to bleed inventory before opening up PSP Slim pre-orders.

Well, I couldn't wait any more, so I went ahead and pre-ordered @ Amazon. No tax/free shipping works for me. I'll just use my remaining GS credits towards the Halo 3 console and maybe Bioshock LE or Ace Combat 6.

[RelentlessRolento]

I was talking to one of the guys at my local GS and he was saying that his was one of the last stores (if not the last) on Oahu to have any (new) PSPs left in stock. Really sounds like GS is just trying to bleed inventory before opening up PSP Slim pre-orders.

Well, I couldn't wait any more, so I went ahead and pre-ordered @ Amazon. No tax/free shipping works for me. I'll just use my remaining GS credits towards the Halo 3 console and maybe Bioshock LE or Ace Combat 6.


If I don't hear of anything by next week, amazon for me as well.

[imascrub]

anybody suppose FYE would have any preorders? Or I guess they can just special order it for me. I gots some credit there to burn.

[Graystone]

Sometime in the next week. I'm going to Gamestop hoping that they're accepting pre-orders now.

[Cao Cao]

Sounds like there may be some potential shortages of the PSP-2000 in Japan, or at least, stores taking precautions against shortages:
http://kotaku.com/gaming/one-per-person/upcoming-psp-slim-shortages-in-japan-288635.php

Hardware launches mean one thing: Hardware shortages. This September's PSP Slim launch looks to be no different. Amazon Japan pre-orders for the PSP Slim (PSP-2000CW) have already closed, and the Sofmap in Akihabara is posting signs mentioning that because of shortages, customers can reserve only one PSP Slim. It also seems like they're not letting customers pick which color they want. Also! Sofmap is allowing one 1seg PSP tuner per person. Whenever new hardware launches, I can't help but thinking some of the demand is created through forced shortages. Call me jaded.

[leehom]

I doubt Sony is creating a shortage. The PSP Slim will sell out until next year upon release. ALot of people like me have been holding off on the PSP for the redesign + the good games that are coming out = sell out. Sony never had a problem selling hardware, they had problems selling software. Too easy to hack the original PSP.

Even Nintendo is starting to feel the blow. The big N estimated around 800 million lost in revenue due to software piracy and that number will only increase. This is the reason why Nintendo has such a short supply of Wii's. Their trying to find new ways to alter their hardware to prevent privacy. I believe they already revised their hardware over four times.

[FurryCurry]

I doubt Sony is creating a shortage. The PSP Slim will sell out until next year upon release. ALot of people like me have been holding off on the PSP for the redesign + the good games that are coming out = sell out. Sony never had a problem selling hardware, they had problems selling software. Too easy to hack the original PSP.

Even Nintendo is starting to feel the blow. The big N estimated around 800 million lost in revenue due to software piracy and that number will only increase. This is the reason why Nintendo has such a short supply of Wii's. Their trying to find new ways to alter their hardware to prevent privacy. I believe they already revised their hardware over four times.

Dayum.

Know what though guys... I just hope my PSP 2k is perfect out of box. None of that monkey business from the first launch.

[MadFlava]

I can't wait to finally pick up a PSP slim. I've been buying PSP games on clearance for the past 2 years and I have a pretty good library. I plan to purchasing mine at Costco if they carry the Silver PSP bundle.

[Halo05]

I was talking to one of the guys at my local GS and he was saying that his was one of the last stores (if not the last) on Oahu to have any (new) PSPs left in stock. Really sounds like GS is just trying to bleed inventory before opening up PSP Slim pre-orders.

Well, I couldn't wait any more, so I went ahead and pre-ordered @ Amazon. No tax/free shipping works for me. I'll just use my remaining GS credits towards the Halo 3 console and maybe Bioshock LE or Ace Combat 6.

Same here, although I no longer have any GS credit to help pay for it.

I preordered the Star Wars one with the free shipping. My estimated delivery date isn't until November. Oh well, from what I've seen, Amazon's shipping estimates are usually wrong for me.

[gunm]

One nice thing about Amazon's free shipping in my experience is that they'll still use a trackable method for more expensive or large items, which is usually something like UPS 2day or FedEx 2-3 day.

[RelentlessRolento]

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.pspfanboy.com/media/2007/08/pspavcomp.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.pspfanboy.com/media/2007/08/pspavcomp2.jpg

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call me an idiot but I don't remember them showing AV cables... I was thinking this entire time you needed an HDTV for sure... nice :) I'm getting this then.

[Halo05]

No HDMI?! Fuck you Sony!!!

Just kidding, looks nice although I wish my TV had side/front component inputs.

[Kendro]

Be advised that only the component cables give the ability to play PSP games on a TV. The composite cables only outputs photos, videos, and music. They even omit the "games" part on the cover.

[TLR]

Be advised that only the component cables give the ability to play PSP games on a TV. The composite cables only outputs photos, videos, and music. They even omit the "games" part on the cover.
XD ... just about to post that when I saw Rolento's pics.

Hmm... is there a such thing as an adapter to use component with a SDTV? Can the signals even be changed like that?

My TV is old... so if I did get that, my only luck would be using my ATI graphics card input to play PSP games on my PC monitor (>_<).

Sooo... what would you guys recommend as the cheapest HDTV I could get?

[Rei no Otaku]

I just preordered one from Amazon. If GS decides to open up preorders I'll just cancel the Amazon one.

[Rocko]

...Wow. So you need an HDTV to play games on the TV? That's fucking stupid.

[GizmoGC]

...Wow. So you need an HDTV to play games on the TV? That's fucking stupid.

Buy a new TV, problem solved.

[Rei no Otaku]

There are still gamers without HDTVs?

[oremites]

Buy a new TV, problem solved.
Or don't buy a PSP, problem solved.

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I have a perfectly good TV so why should I go out and buy an HDTV? When that one goes out, I'm sure I'll upgrade but I don't feel any need to go out and buy a new TV just to have the latest gadget.

TV-out was a big selling point for me on the new PSP. If I can't play it on the TV I've got, then it's definitely fallen down the priority list of things to buy.

[RelentlessRolento]

There are still gamers without HDTVs?


coming from a web forum dedicated to people saving money I think a large part of this site has yet to really upgrade. I plan to, but life has other things to pay for... wait for late college and you'll see.

[Rei no Otaku]

coming from a web forum dedicated to people saving money I think a large part of this site has yet to really upgrade. I plan to, but life has other things to pay for... wait for late college and you'll see.
I'm currently going to school for my masters. Is that late enough college? The TVs aren't that expensive if you save your money. I saw some pretty nice ones at CC the other day for $500-600.

But you're right, I do sometimes forget that most of the people here are cheap lol.

[TLR]

Well... I found the device that could be used to convert the signals from component to composite, but that adapter was rougly 5x the cost of a core PSP-2000!

Luckily, prices on HDTVs have gone down significantly since the last time I checked (years ago)... I expected to end up paying upwards of $1000, but I'm seeing quite a few of them that are $200-$500 on Amazon!

If that's the case... shouldn't be any trouble pulling that off before the end of September.

[RelentlessRolento]

I'm currently going to school for my masters. Is that late enough college? The TVs aren't that expensive if you save your money. I saw some pretty nice ones at CC the other day for $500-600.

But you're right, I do sometimes forget that most of the people here are cheap lol.


:lol: yeah never mind then... you're ahead of me >_<


I have a hard ass time spending more than $2 on anything not gaming sometimes... I'm trying to loosen up though...

I expect to have an HDTV in less than 4 months though.

[Rei no Otaku]

I have to admit though, I do kind of wish it had a SD cable. Mainly because if I bring it to someone's house who doesn't have a HDTV.

[leehom]

We need a Persona 3 portable version. That game would rock.

[Rocko]

Buy a new TV, problem solved.

Oh, why didn't I think of that? Thanks so much! :roll:

I see 0 need to bother with an HDTV, besides this PSP issue, which is hardly enough to warrant replacing a perfectly working television.

[Chitown021]

Oh, why didn't I think of that? Thanks so much! :roll:

I see 0 need to bother with an HDTV, besides this PSP issue, which is hardly enough to warrant replacing a perfectly working television.

Yeah, Gizmo is the man with all the answers....


I am disappointed to learn the new PSP will not work with non-HD televisions. One of the pluses would've been to take it with me on trips to see relatives. It might have even lead me to buy more UMDs. Most of them do not have HDTV's. Although I will have to pass Gizmo's idea along to them. Hmm just go buy one... BRILLIANT!!! ;)


BTW... Wasn't Sony supposedly going to make a DVD player with a UMD slot or am I just imagining things? Seems like it would make sense to try and boost UMD sales. I might buy more if I could play them at home.

[elwood731]

There were all kinds of rumors about what Sony was going to do to support UMD, including building a player into the PS3. Obviously, much of it never happened. TV output on the PSP-2000 is about the best thing they've done so far. Making it only work for HDTVs is a minor slide backwards in what was a big step forward.

[rickonker]

There were all kinds of rumors about what Sony was going to do to support UMD, including building a player into the PS3. Obviously, much of it never happened. TV output on the PSP-2000 is about the best thing they've done so far. Making it only work for HDTVs is a minor slide backwards in what was a big step forward.
The UMD playback works with the composite cables, so that means almost all TVs not just HDTVs.

[imascrub]

I think in the other thread it mentions that games only work through component. Everything else (movies, music, images) will work through both component and composite. I don't think this means that games are only playable on HDTV's since some SD tv's have component input also.

[Halo05]

...Wow. So you need an HDTV to play games on the TV? That's fucking stupid.

That's terrible, Sony's finished.

Seriously though, why the hell wouldn't they let they have composite cables run games. Sure everything would be letterboxed but so was all of RE4 among others, it wasn't a problem.

[Cao Cao]

...Wow. So you need an HDTV to play games on the TV? That's fucking stupid.
I'm not entirely sure about this, but aren't there Component inputs on most SDTVs made after 2001? I know that my SDTV, which I bought for $200 in 2002 or 2003, has a component input in the back. I mean, Sony hasn't said anything about the games requiring progressive scan or anything like that, just the Component connection.

[Halo05]

My SDTV doesn't have component inputs and I bought it in... early 2004 I think, not that most TVs didn't at the time (I was stuck in Japan, not much shopping around I could do). Anyhow, it's not a deal breaker for me but I can see how it would be for people who already have a perfectly fine original PSP and a TV without component inputs.

[Ruahrc]

The trick is to hold out until 2009 when all the television broadcasts are supposed to go digital. Your analog TV will be "worthless" unless you get a digital receiver box for it, and I suspect that prices on HDTVs will drop like rocks. That is my plan for the time being at least :). With only a tiny 14" SDTV though, it may be a long wait.

To keep on topic of the OP though, I had never really considered getting a PSP until I heard that Worms 2 will come out on PSP and DS soon. The thought of gallavanting around with the ninja rope suddenly makes me itch for a new portable hehe.

Ruahrc

[bob330i]

The trick is to hold out until 2009 when all the television broadcasts are supposed to go digital. Your analog TV will be "worthless" unless you get a digital receiver box for it, and I suspect that prices on HDTVs will drop like rocks.
Ruahrc

That's my plan. I have a perfectly good 32" Sony that should last the next 2 years.

Back OT, bummer that the slim can't be used w/SDTVs. I hope that ends up not being true, however unlikely that is.

[imascrub]

kinda off topic, but I thought the transition over to digital broadcast was only for over the air tv signals, and thus any television broadcasts received through a cable provider or such would not be affected? Thought I was pretty sure I read that a while back...

[Sanosuke Sagara]

If you go on kotaku there's apparently something w/ the ps3 and psp w/ regards to the tv - dont have a ps3 so it doesnt matter for me but there are some good shots of the silver slim psp link (http://kotaku.com/gaming/clips/play-tv-on-ps3-explained-292541.php?autoplay=true)

[TLR]

I'm not entirely sure about this, but aren't there Component inputs on most SDTVs made after 2001? I know that my SDTV, which I bought for $200 in 2002 or 2003, has a component input in the back. I mean, Sony hasn't said anything about the games requiring progressive scan or anything like that, just the Component connection.
Oh... well then, if you can get SDTVs with component inputs that cheap in 2002-2003, that changes everything since the price on those has likely dropped to dirt cheap.

So it doesn't necessarily have to be HD-TV to have component inputs?

Well... there goes my last remaing qualm about the PSP-2000.

...I should probably update my article before the thought that it will require you to drop upwards of $500 to play PSP games on a TV screen becomes any more widespread.

What's the model/make of your TV, btw?

[Wolfpup]

Oh... well then, if you can get SDTVs with component inputs that cheap in 2002-2003, that changes everything since the price on those has likely dropped to dirt cheap.

So it doesn't necessarily have to be HD-TV to have component inputs?

Well... there goes my last remaing qualm about the PSP-2000.

...I should probably update my article before the thought that it will require you to drop upwards of $500 to play PSP games on a TV screen becomes any more widespread.

What's the model/make of your TV, btw?

High end TVs could have component in the 90's too. Although my fairly high-end Sony I got in 1997ish (Final Fantasy 7 demanded it!) Just had S-Video.

[Rocko]

Just a little more than two weeks before release and Gamestop still isn't taking preorders. Ridiculous.

[FurryCurry]

Just a little more than two weeks before release and Gamestop still isn't taking preorders. Ridiculous.

Very bizzare for them.

[Rei no Otaku]

Talked to my boss. Supposedly we're not taking preorders because they don't know how many Sony is going to ship us. How true that is, I don't know.

[Chitown021]

Talked to my boss. Supposedly we're not taking preorders because they don't know how many Sony is going to ship us. How true that is, I don't know.


LOL Deja Vu (see PS3 pre-order fiasco).

[Halo05]

At this point, fuck 'em. Let people go buy them off Amazon then.

[leehom]

I'm going to Gamestop early to purchase one -__-

[gunm]

S'ok w/me, as I don't mind Amazon no tax/free ship.

[Rocko]

Damn. Guess I'll have to show up at Gamestop Tuesday afternoon then. Luckily I have 3 around here, hopefully one will have 'em.

I have $250 in GS credit, so I have to buy it there, but oh how I wish I could just order it from Amazon. :P

[FatBoyInside]

For those like me who just crawled out under a rock and realized a new PSP slim is coming out next month...here's some important points of clarification potential buyers need to know:

1. The $169.99 PSP Slim "Core package" (default piano black version) only comes with the system, AC adapter and the battery pack.

2. To view actual PSP games on your big-screen TV, you need to purchase a specific PSP Slim "COMPONENT AV Cable". Estimate MSRP for offiicial Sony brand is $29.99.

3. The new slim battery that comes with the new PSP system is not actually better...you will still get the same amount of playtime (Sony says 5 hours from games...but with wi-fi turned on, adjustable volume/brightness, & other factors...it will be much less realistically)

4. You can utilize the older PSP battery for the PSP slim system to increase the playtime to 8-10 hrs, but you would need to purchase a new back plate accessory since the battery will bulge out in the back.

5. You can actually charge the PSP slim thru your laptop or PC using a USB cable ... pretty cool.

[Foo228]

2. To view actual PSP games on your big-screen TV, you need to purchase a specific PSP Slim "COMPONENT AV Cable". Estimate MSRP for offiicial Sony brand is $29.99.

and you need an hdtv..

[daroga]

and you need an hdtv..I doubt that's actually the case. Any TV with component inputs should be able to use this, unless is it something to do with widescreen issues?

[ModernDayDruid]

Just a little more than two weeks before release and Gamestop still isn't taking preorders. Ridiculous.

I pre-ordered at Amazon.com. No tax, free shipping. I got this in email today:

"We have received new release date information related to your pre-ordered
video game in the order you placed on August 18 2007 10:34 PDT (Order# xxxxxxx). The release date for the video game listed below has been changed by the publisher, and we want to provide you with a
new delivery estimate based on the new release date:

"Sony PSP 2000 Console - Piano Black" [Video Game]
Release date: 09/10/2007
Estimated arrival date: 09/17/2007 - 09/19/2007"

I have a feeling initial inventory is going to be somewhat scarce. If you have the ability, Amazon might be your best bet. I've always had great service pre-ordering from them. Amazon typically knows to the unit how much inventory they will get.

[Rei no Otaku]

I have it preordered from them and didn't get that email.

[FatBoyInside]

I doubt that's actually the case. Any TV with component inputs should be able to use this, unless is it something to do with widescreen issues?


I believe as long as your TV has component video input jacks (green/blue/red), you can view PSP games. The PSP slim component AV cable supports resolutions 480i thru 1080p, supposedly.

[Sanosuke Sagara]

Cant seem to find the old psp anywhere these days - gamestop say oos for all nearby stores and none on the way - think this baby's gonna launch sooner than expected

[RelentlessRolento]

September 10th or 20th?

[Sanosuke Sagara]

My guess is early september, probably before the tenth. Sony's not makin money when they got none of these in stock, and that many days can really hurt them financially

[Rei no Otaku]

Cant seem to find the old psp anywhere these days - gamestop say oos for all nearby stores and none on the way - think this baby's gonna launch sooner than expected
Yeah, they haven't shipped us any PSPs in a couple weeks now.

[Rocko]

...So they'll release the PSP and not tell us the release date? That's smart. :-k

[Halo05]

But that strategy worked so well for Sega in the summer of 1995...

[Rocko]

I'm assuming it'll be posted here if the PSP is given a new release date. Otherwise, I suppose I'll just call my Gamestop on like saturday before the 10th and ask them when the new PSP will be in.

[Foo228]

September 10th or 20th?

Right around the 10th, just until stores get them in stock

But that strategy worked so well for Sega in the summer of 1995...

i thought it was hilarious how they just released them without warning...what were they thinking ;)

[Halo05]

I'll never forget wandering into a TRU in like May of 1995 with my Mom and one of my friends, going to the videogame section and seeing a Saturn set up with Virtua Fighter. It was like, "What? This is out already?".

Back then that $399 pricetag seemed unbelievably high.

[hhhdx4]

I thought the date was going to be the 10th, why is there such debate now?

I Just hope CC has them on the 10th, and before Im pelted with tomatoes, I have a $50 GC :-P

[cochesecochese]

I can't decide if I should get the silver one or the white one. I loved my ceramic fatty but that darth vader cover is some homo shit. Don't want the game either.

Fuck.

[RelentlessRolento]

fuck... I think I'm going to just waltz in on opening of the 10th and ask if they got em... unless they ship that day. I'll then trade in my old PSP.

[Rocko]

The latest issue of PSM says the 10th.

[Halo05]

I can't decide if I should get the silver one or the white one. I loved my ceramic fatty but that darth vader cover is some homo shit. Don't want the game either.

Fuck.

Hey! Show respect. It's not fucking Anakin on the back, it's Darth Vader, the nubian god.

[hhhdx4]

I think thats the ship date, because products rarely come out on a monday, escpecially since the normal in stock day is tuesday.

[gunm]

^^ Agreed. Looks like it won't actually be in store until at least Tuesday, possibly a little later depending.

My Amazon delivery date was updated to the following week to adjust for this, as well.

[Rocko]

Wii came out on a Monday.

Actually, no, that was Sunday.

Hmm.

[Rei no Otaku]

I have one day shipping on it at Amazon, and my delivery date says the 11th.

[cochesecochese]

Hey! Show respect. It's not fucking Anakin on the back, it's Darth Vader, the nubian god.

???

[RelentlessRolento]

so we'll see em on the streets supposedly on the 11th... time to prepare.

[FatBoyInside]

so we'll see em on the streets supposedly on the 11th... time to prepare.

Do you mean like camping out early? I might line-up an hour before store opens, but no more overnight madness for me. Will everyone grab the Ratchet/Clank Bundle? I heard the core slim will have a super glossy black finish for a classier look....might go for that, instead.

[RelentlessRolento]

Do you mean like camping out early? I might line-up an hour before store opens, but no more overnight madness for me. Will everyone grab the Ratchet/Clank Bundle? I heard the core slim will have a super glossy black finish for a classier look....might go for that, instead.


It's 3 min to walk to EB from my house, so preparing for me is just waking up really early.

[imascrub]

anybody know if/when they'll be selling just the silver system by itself? After seein the silver in video walkthroughs and stuff it looks pretty nice...

[Halo05]

???

I was hoping someone would fall for the "What's a nubian?" trap but apparently not enough people here have seen Chasing Amy.

[Rocko]

Do you mean like camping out early? I might line-up an hour before store opens, but no more overnight madness for me. Will everyone grab the Ratchet/Clank Bundle? I heard the core slim will have a super glossy black finish for a classier look....might go for that, instead.

Daxter bundle. No Ratchet and Clank bundle.

I can't line up early, so I hope they have decent stock.

Also, if a guy has 1 day shipping and gets it the 11th, I'd say it is released and will be in stores on the 10th

[gunm]

Also, if a guy has 1 day shipping and gets it the 11th, I'd say it is released and will be in stores on the 10th

I don't know about that. I think all that means is that the product is being dropped shipped by the manufacturer, or the direct distribution center of the manufacturer. So Rei's package could be getting shipped out at the same time as the retail batch and thus everyone may actually be getting it on the 11th or later.

[Rei no Otaku]

I don't know about that. I think all that means is that the product is being dropped shipped by the manufacturer, or the direct distribution center of the manufacturer. So Rei's package could be getting shipped out at the same time as the retail batch and thus everyone may actually be getting it on the 11th or later.
Was just going to say the same thing. Places like Amazon and EBgames.com have the stuff shipped straight from the distribution centers. So it might not be in stores until the 11th.